The Most Hardcore MMO EVER Made

[@sawmanUK]

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[@SoullessAIMusic]

i get to install all adobe products for free too. Do I get to use it for free?

[@JobArtero-o9r]

Canadians are not real people

[@sawmanUK]

@@SoullessAIMusic eh?

[@trubblegum5787]

​@sawmanUK that's a solid question 🤔

[@sawmanUK]

@@trubblegum5787 ohhh they are asking if the product is free to use. Well yea, of course. There is a premium version which has a few more features, thats how they make their money, as i believe that has the advanced AI stuff. Its a good piece of kit, its the only reason i took the sponsor, that and a few friends use it for content creation. I try to avoid promoting any old Crud on my channel.

[@kordlesskure]

PSA: Moose are very deadly IRL

[@JohnSmith-ox3gy]

Mooses, meese, mosi?

[@sawmanUK]

Now we know... now we know...

[@jpeg1991]

We know now

[@Mojo_Dojo333]

Not like horses' are dangerous because they are large and powerful. Dangerous because it will chase you through the woods, gore and stomp you to a bloody pulp. And yes they are giant. Makes a horse look like a pony.

[@Somarinoa]

As a lifelong Alaskan, I just want to say that moose are literally the most dangerous animal in a place where one type of bear will absolutely hunt humans.

[@Zorothegallade-rpg]

People tend to underestimate their size. They think most ungulates are the size of a horse tops, but moose are more in the ballpark of a small elephant.

[@Audio041194]

I visited my buddy stationed up there on leave once, a moose literally charged at his truck we were parked having lunch by a lake we were gonna fish in, yeah they feel threatened they will fight before fleeing. That moose is now dead.

[@coldcrush5921]

When i was a kid me and my buddy were walking to the bus stop. Kind of a gloomy day, tired, just looking at the ground as I went. Suddenly my buddy books it back to my house. I yell back at him "the hell are you doing, we're gonna be late" turn around and keep going as I was. I aint trynna get yelled at again for missing the bus. Go for a few paces still looking at the ground till a fuckin hoof comes into my field of vision. It was like a cartoon just slowly looking up scanning up its legs, chest, neck in disbelief hoping im imagining things, till im looking right up into its face. A fuckin bull moose. Still feel like a retard when i think back on it. Still surprises me that that moose was so calm about it. Didn't even react just stared back at me. Booked it the fuck outta there.

[@kyosokutai]

The only natural predator of the moose, is the killer whale.

[@user-uv8rw1qm3u]

@@coldcrush5921 hooweesheet. ur so lucky to be alive

[@cartoIa]

I'm really glad my advice was of some help. Great video! Hoping to see more H&H content.

[@sawmanUK]

The bucket alone was a great help!

[@zephiask1758]

You were the hero the world needs and a naked one at that

[@kutzknity5579]

gritou mae to no video né pai

[@rupertovsky]

what a legend

[@bucketmonkeys]

High and Horny

[@aireeysplace]

My favourite thing about finding a new high quality channel is i get to binge all of their videos. Love the content man, keep it up!!!

[@ASHFAR578]

Dude i played it years ago. This shit was wild. I remember there was once a clan of Koreans on the map and nobody would get near them. Their land was called hogwarts and they literally kidnapped other players. People would disappear lmao.

[@InvadeNormandy]

Haven and Hearth was a truly magical experience with about 4 buddies. You all sort of naturally gravitate into roles without too much fussing and the stakes being higher than the "bi-weekly minecraft world" really makes you care about what you're doing a bit more.

[@JUST_GAUNT_GET_ENOUGH]

SawmanUK said he could take on a swan in person we cant let that threat go. I say the next video needs to be a real life swan battle!!!

[@bw9358]

i played this game like crazy when i was 13. im 28 now. im so fucking excited for it to come to steam. it’s such a unique and great game, i really hope it does well. im also glad someone’s covering it!

[@EvilNecroid]

i played this like 69 million years ago and forgot about it. back then the graphics were different and i liked them better because they were less cartoony

[@LuaanTi]

It was always cartoony, it's just in 3D now (though still hand-painted). A lot more sounds too :) Some people hate that for some reason. You can still play the old 2D version if you really want to, it just isn't developed anymore. Hafen is miles ahead.

[@xSephironx]

Been playing this game since 2009!!! Its absolutely fucking amazing. I've met friends, trading partners, serial killers, travelled half the world by ship to sell rare items in massive organized cities, seen armies fight over territory, stolen horses, busted down walls and bullied people, and ive also been bullied by people. If you want a very in depth mmo with good social atmosphere check it out

[@XzMondayNightzX]

"The most BRUTAL and UNFAIR MMO of all time. SO HARDCORE you will DIE TO DEATH.... IN REAL LIFE." Damn dude that sounds pretty crazy. Like actually messed up. What's this game called? "Haven and Hearth."

[@Vedgy]

Just to be clear, JavaScript and Java are completely different things. JavaScript is a programming language that runs in web browsers, Java is what RuneScape/MineCraft/This game are made with, it's for like "Desktop" applications. There's nothing inherently wrong with using Java, but being that it's just a programming language and not a game engine it means they either need to reinvent the wheel or lack a lot of features. Love the content, just wanted to be that guy in the comments.

[@CpyrightedNarrates]

Just to be clear, all game engines are just programming languages with a fancy UI on top and pre-built features / tools. What the Haven&Hearth team have essentially done is built their own custom game engine based on Java, this is appealing to many devs as it allows them to have full control over every step of the process and build features from the ground up specifically for their games, it also usually means less compatibility issues or development headaches as well as more optimised performance. It also means you are not reliant on the game engines devs to implement features you need, for example Ray Traced Shadows, many devs had to wait ages in order for third-party games engines to introduce it or to add it post launch in patches, whereas studios with their own custom engines like DICE with their Frostbite engine are capable of just implementing the feature themselves, instead of waiting.

[@LuaanTi]

And it's not like UE5 actually can do what this does. This is a very light-weight engine made to build a large sandbox experience with tons of people, a fully persistent online world, while downloading all assets on demand. The bare bones UE5 project with nothing in it takes more than this entire game with all its assets and code. Though the devs made it very clear they hate working with Java, and it's all over the (open) source code. I doubt they'd think C++ is a better choice, though. In any case, the main point of the Java was to open a website, click a button and play anywhere.

[@GamerLadySincePong]

Runescape migrated to C++

[@stonephonerogue]

@@GamerLadySincePong and it's incredibly easy to exploit

[@TerryParksey]

Very nicely done review. Speaking as someone who found this game about 14 years ago and has played it since, that urge to keep playing is what got me hooked too. The game is absolutely brutal to new players, playing in a group is really good fun, but playing solo initially is too, it just makes everything a lot harder. The player levels are like cycles, a world starts and 1000+ players are online, this slowly falls to 200 or so over the months, but you started literally just as it was announced that the server reset was incoming at which point almost everyone left stops playing. With the Steam release in November I think there's never been a better time to start playing the game to get some hands on experience ready for the new world. I think the game will appeal to old UO & Runescape players that miss those early days of chaos.

[@rougecleminz]

Lmao, I picked the right time to speak in realm chat considering I haven't played in months. Cool video, man, I do hope to see more! Just make sure to hide your map if you do plan on making more haven videos, trust me

[@Goldendeed]

cock

[@undertyped1]

BOB DOLE HAS ALREADY LOCKED ONTO HIM.

[@TEMINIX]

Your videos make me laugh more than anyone else's. You should be up there with the greats in viewership. You absolute chad. All the edits are *chef's kiss* All the deep cut references land for me. The music tracks you use are often personal favorites of mine and you use them to great effect. I love the FF8 sounds! Great editing. Great sense of humor. I also appreciate how you don't edit out the embarrassing stuff like most people do. Your videos aren't just highlight reels parading as normal play sessions.

[@TheAratine]

Those little clips of Wurm Online brought back memories during the intro

[@thatguy3604]

I played this back in the day, the old version before they upgraded the graphics etc. Blows my mind its still going and finally getting some attention might have to check it out again

[@boltonhero1]

Oh damn, haven't thought about this game in a hot minute. I got into it back when it was 2D, and I remember joining some people settling a village on an island... before then getting stuck on said island when they eventually stopped playing.

[@sawmanUK]

It was 2D? Thats quite impressive! I’m surprised at how little coverage this title has had

[@boltonhero1]

@@sawmanUK Yee. It had a decent bit of coverage way way back when Projared made a vid on the game 11 years back (which is probably what got me into the game). It's a decent video if you wanted to see what it once looked like.

[@SetariM]

@@sawmanUK Mostly because the casual audience of video games, much less MMORPGs hates perma-death/full loot pvp/etc.

[@Zorothegallade-rpg]

@@SetariM Pretty logical too. Nobody wants whether they have fun or not hinge on the coin flip chance of no other player stronger than you deciding to just destroy you with impunity and unmake everything you tried to build up.

[@sawmanUK]

Thanks for watching and let me know in the comments below which MMO i should take on next!!!

[@NobushigeAzai]

Fiesta Online would be a funny one for you to take on.

[@undertyped1]

The early game footage was blurry. I'm guessing you had obs issues. I would have redid that part, rather than leaving it in.

[@vasher1156]

Tibia

[@Ryan-od2nj]

It would be awesome to see you play TurtleWoW hardcore. It's free to play classic WoW.

[@sawmanUK]

@@Ryan-od2nj Is that the private server one??

[@Hatsworthful]

I've actually been looking for this MMO for ages now, I remember playing a much much older version of it years ago, hell it even was 2d rather than 3d

[@Cynndora]

plot twist: the devs are british, the swan was a rare spawn boss fight.

[@tagnar8962]

Thanks for talking about my fav mmo!

[@ekdavey]

Drinking game: Take a shot every time Sawman shits on New World

[@tormmac]

last time i tried this game the graphics were super bad, but it was 12 years ago, so excited to try this updated version, the graphics are 10x better and the art style is working for me

[@hyenawithgun]

Your videos are so insanely quality that I was genuinely taken aback when I realized your views weren't in the multi 100ks at least. Rooting for your channel's bright future

[@IFRYRCE]

You are the type of general chatter I appreciate in a MMO.

[@Johnny_Oi]

🇬🇧 Death by a fucking Swan ! 🇬🇧 ….. Geezer, that comment killed me! I had to subscribe, after watching this blinding review. I shall now fire up my existing H&H account to refresh before the steam release

[@haze4622]

"i played a lot of minecraft, so i know what a birch tree looks like!" is a helluva a take on modern media consumption.

[@giratinagaming5547]

Im glad this game still gets coverage. I remember playing it when it first came out.

[@d1ssolv3r]

it's got a lot of players since it's on steam now, i'm gonna check it out

[@Nekros-t9e]

6:50 this is the type of chat I love where they just go with it and don't get all bent out of shape.

[@Sammysapphira]

The internet used to be a fun place until HR Karen's ruined it.

[@nugzargurasashvili56]

HEAVEN & HEARTH MENTIONED LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@Soshiplayz]

Sawman showing is map is a bad idea. Someone will find your base and put it 5 feet under. That's how they destroyed projared base back in the days.

[@thebois1284]

I have been looking for a game like this! definitely gonna try it out when it drops on steam.

[@tigabx22]

''Any one who love runescape will look at this and think it's in 4k'' God damn i love this man! Nice one.

[@ForScienceSC]

Alt f9 will start the recording without opening the overlay.. love the channel and great vid btw!

[@Jannah_2k]

Permadeath and always on pvp = content. 😻Seems like (masochistic) fun game. ^^

[@Zorothegallade-rpg]

I played it for a while, before the leading faction of the server decided to sweep by, demolish our village, and murder us as soon as we logged in. Then my grup just quit altogether.

[@proglinuxoid]

It is not permadeath. You just lose some xp, noob.

[@celem1000]

It's not as chaotic as it seems. The ability to attack a player requires a skill, the ability to kill a downed player is another skill. These cost a fair chunk so not everyone you meet can kill you. Also if you designate your next character to be your descendant then you carry over good chunks of your progress. (All discovery LP immediately, then a bunch of your other gains once you bury your corpse)

[@scurvylouse8458]

Nice one! I hope this gets more people to try the game out on Steam launch. You met Cartola too! He's a good Brazilian fighter. Keep at it, it's one of the most ambitious games ever made!

[@Chris-jq8db]

This video was great! Make more Haven and Hearth content on November 1st, with the wipe!

[@NickAndWolf]

Watching your channel is like a time capsule of my life a decade ago. Lots of obscure shit. Glad to see these games can still be experienced, flaws and all

[@ZachyTheLegand]

Hey! I love video essays, I listen and kinda watch during work. I work 10 hour shifts so there's a lot of videos and pod casts i listen too. found you a few days ago via youtube recommended (wow, youtube getting something right????) Love your shit man. i personally hate MMOs, I can't stand grinds because im just too busy, but i love learning about them. Keep up the videos, you do a great job. excited to see where you go!

[@sawmanUK]

thanks mate, I appreciate it

[@ofstopi2023]

"I play a lot of Minecraft so I know exactly what a birch tree looks like" is the saddest fucked sentence I've read today.

[@Birchyy]

its my name

[@aneesh9291]

Bro is a professional runescape hater

[@sawmanUK]

Nah I see the value of RuneScape , new world tho …

[@vasher1156]

​@@sawmanUKbro is a professional new world hater

[@jester-wor]

Na his true passion of hate is ESO

[@Dan-hh5pk]

How can you hate Runescape... Ok runescape3 maybe but OSRS is one of the best mmo's on the market

[@christaylor86]

@@Dan-hh5pk Beaten only by Cookie Clicker in terms of excitement.

[@chrisbenn]

OMG! I love the art style!

[@kingkane7041]

As someone who has played this game a few times, thank you for giving it proper recognition.

[@evilbee94]

Idk what makes this dudes voice the way it is but damn i could listen to this guy forever. Really hopes he makes a shit ton more vids

[@caileymalkin3249]

Been playing for a few years and it's hard but very fun. Having a group and making villages together is great ❤

[@protonskull]

did not expect to find a channel and game i want to look into literally cried laughing so hard

[@JoseAlves-tj8os]

I love that the only true peaceful creature at 21:33, the dryad he decided to be careful and run away

[@Alpha155]

I started playing Haven and Hearth way back in World 8 or 9? I think? Back in 2016. Its a great MMO and really has some unique experiences. The feel you get after killing your first Boar in a current world is amazing, I know people normally cheese it in a boat but in a straight up fight its the best thing ever. One of the unique experiences was when me and a friend made a house and a palisade near afew friendly neighbours but we were alerted that a zerg of people were killing in the area, my friend didn't make it back in time and got killed, a day after that happened we pack up and moved. From then on, I have a rule of thumb; always travel at least two hours away from spawn in any direction. Also as small as they may be; never try to fight ants as your first combat experience, they will mess you up.

[@pklemming]

The way he runs and stands looks like he couldn't afford a backpack and decided to use his ass as a storage area.

[@Ethan-fz6tp]

This looks sick, ty for showing this off.

[@bigbrogk2331]

started watching this video a month ago when the game released (i got to it on the 11th, 10 days after release). stopped watching the video and downloaded the game to jump in. coming back now to finish the video, and to thank you for the already hundreds of hours of fun. you pointed me towards the game, so i thought it only fair to return for a sub and a like!

[@KOIBOI-OPPORTUNITY]

The square shaped inventory spaces remind me of The Wild Darkness inventory slots(This is not a MMO) Also info if you want to play the game viewer: Don’t eat everything you see

[@GamerLadySincePong]

I loved the video - LOLed several times, probably waking up the kids! Fortunately, I became friends with an expert and landed in a village with other experts. That's an aspect you didn't mention. You can make significant progress by pooling resources and protecting each other. Like real life. I came to this game through Bitcraft - you should also cover that one (Still alpha).

[@RogueAkuma]

MY JAW DROPPED when i heard it was on steam.... this game was so amazing but i hardly ran into people because not many knew about it.... steam will change it along with youtubers/streamers so thats pretty awesome

[@MyBestPalJimbo]

Gabriel is acting the way MMO players should act. Help and encourage new players. If you crush them then you're just crushing the game you enjoy.

[@outroruan]

The last thing I thought it could happen was to see a brazilian in the video. (I'm from brazil but I'm not Gabriel 😂). I really enjoy your videos.

[@ireliaxann]

Brasil é internacional

[@jamieevans3666]

moose are really dangerous, canadian here, were taught not to go near those things

[@AriaPlanetes]

I love seeing the comments from the players he ran into or chatted with, that's great Also I really enjoy these videos, I have a kinda fascination with MMOs but don't have the time or brainpower (after work I always just wanna turn my brain off so I only end up playing easy games hahah) to figure out the smaller more hardcore MMOs myself, so it's nice to get to learn about them second hand

[@SaintInix]

Good to see creators covering this game. Started playing recently when I saw it was on Steam. If you're looking for folks to play with in-game, myself and some others are starting up an alliance of sorts. Would love to have you stop by or join us.

[@sawmanUK]

As much as i enjoyed Haven and Hearth, it sadly released the new servers at the same time as Ashes of Creation... which i also dont have time to play LOL

[@SaintInix]

@sawmanUK I feel ya, too many games and not enough hours in the day. If you ever happen to get the itch to stop back in to H&H, you're welcome over at my place, Seaside fishing Co. Which ironically is on a lake and not the ocean.

[@Christian_Bagger]

I wanna try this! It’s actually something I’ve been looking for

[@oniwaski8353]

If you're up for reviewing this, you should look into 'Salem the online mmo'. Originally created by the same team long ago, before being sold off for someone else to pursue, however, it maintains this level of survival mmo, but in a less pvp focus and more pve adventure. You'll find a lot of similarities, but it's more enjoyable on a user friendly level, especially knowing how the combat works, and all while still maintaining nearly the same level of depth and secrecy that you enjoyed here.

[@bumberto_eko1068]

14:30 i am still officially convinced they removed grasshoppers from the game

[@NecroBanana]

Some of these HARDCORE MMOs sometimes go too far off the Hardcore end to the point of being obtuse for the sake of being obtuse. They also tendo reward griefing rather than outright prevent it.

[@neoteraflare]

I love H&H! If you want it really hardcore spawn at the winter. Snakes and ants wont follow you to water. Healing is by walking in the swamp getting leaches on your body. They will drain the red health bar, but have a chance to raise the yellow health bar. I had a chest full of leaches just for healing. You should see the game after reset when communities are raised by working together and people focusing on specific works.

[@kicy2]

love your videos! keep it up im sure you will blow up :)

[@lize-marieswan8466]

The most british thing -> death by a f*cking swan 😂

[@mavericksetsuna7396]

Dark wind war on wheels is probably more hard core ngl.

[@indalecio21]

I am here now. That means your channel will start growing. Cool content, keep it up.

[@VatticTV]

I played this game years ago before it was semi-3D and when it was a fixed map with almost no water except at spawn. The crafting timers make more sense when the game is busier. Gives you something extra to guard. Also it used to be the case that some processes (steel making for one) required a multiple people to keep the process going unless you woke up in the night IRL.

[@komiks42]

You just opened a bag of memories man.

[@gaery_]

Nice to see more HnH content on yt, can't wait for the steam release

[@TheSteadyeddieShow]

the website looks like a flash game from 2007 hahahah

[@sawmanUK]

My next review …

[@LuaanTi]

The first public release was in 2009 :) It's still in continuous development by the same two guys. Though technically this is the second "version", built on a new 3D client with deformable terrain and all that (the original only had mining in caves). This is never going to be a mainstream success, so why bother updating the website? It's proper XHTML at least :P

[@Alabaster1]

Oh hey, somebody's playing this Indie shit I've been grinding on and off for almost a decade. Very cool. Didn't know they're releasing on steam. Thanks.

[@Orquiito]

Love your chanel, keep you great work with this kind of content

[@KingSmerk209]

Um excuse me! The single most hardcore MMO of all time is and has always been club penguin.

[@dakotah4866]

Yeah I just downloaded this game last night still figuring things out. Love the video

[@Roy-chiltern]

Fishing is good feps try to raise your stats evenly or you'll have to eat so much more to bring the lower stats up.

[@angelmon6]

i hope youll remember your main fans once youll be famous

[@rinoamenna]

the swandeath had me cryinggg 😂😂

[@AncientExplorationCanada]

My first thought was Eve: Online, that game will tear you down to the core

[@ParkerRoberson-jf8ew]

I love that you take shots at new world every chance you get lmao

[@flutterc4t458]

And why should not unlike in new world they land

[@Ardiay7]

If you're new and looking to play with people you can join Whatever Bay, big village always open to new players.

[@gabrielmarques5992]

as a brazillian gabriel myself, I can confirm that we are very chill dudes

[@Joker8Joker]

I played it a long time ago, back then we had third party launchers with radars and such to see everything. Also to compete with anyone you had to have 2 accounts simultaniously to help you out .

[@myentertainment55]

Wow, I played it like 10 years ago with few friends and heard many good things about it since.

[@FacelessOddity]

This game is extremely fun and addicting! I used to play it when it first came out. It is easy to get lost in the world, exploring & building. I highly recommend giving it a try.

[@Pippin_Drogado]

i played this game for years , best mmorpg ever

[@8Kit]

FYI, you cant actually be attacked while offline unless you're an outlaw. you gain outlaw status temporarily after commiting some crimes, like murder and theft. the outlaw time depends on the severity of the crime.

[@NobushigeAzai]

HELL YES! NEW SAWMANUK VIDEO!

[@ChakatStormCloud]

XD this game is definitely an RTFW kinda game, where your expected generally to avoid danger at all costs, i.e. watching your minimap, and the second an aggressive animal enters it, turning around, or keeping at the edge of your render range.. In terms of combat you're effectively a newborn toddler as a fresh character, and so attacking... literally anything outside of the games unofficial "combat tutorial animal" the rat, will result in exactly what you'd expect if your 1-year old walked up to a bear, lynx, wild boar, moose, swan, bee hive, or even a massing swarm of mosquitos or midges. Also personally I'd say you really haven't given haven a fair shake until you've atleast done _some_ mining, and built a proper palisade wall.

[@mobdeepsmith4982]

The reason no one heard of this gem is that they charge a monthly sub for it... back when I played it years ago...

[@h3llsdave]

this game is really good, it makes me feel like a kid again, learning and discovering things....

[@dkelrk1]

Wow this is a blast from the past.

[@cydiehl1163]

Looks like a blast!

[@StandardName562]

I played this one as well and it was indeed crazy hardcore..

[@itsicearmour]

That sponsor transition had me rolling lmao

[@PapaS4c]

Omg I remember playing this game on the browser when I was a little kid

[@SkillofTheValentine]

I was super obsessed with this game back in the day, even the fear of being hunted by the russian clans was a thrill, didnt even recognuze it from the thumbnail lol

[@christopherzorthian8182]

Been playing for years, it’s definitely addictive. Need to have some self control with your schedule if you decide to play.