Ford EEC IV No Spark Diagnostics Class - Part 1

[@markchidester6239]

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[@ScannerDanner]

The cool thing is if you really dig into this, everything still applies! Yeah the example is old, but so what, right?

[@markchidester6239]

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[@ScannerDanner]

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[@ScannerDanner]

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[@eliezerramosjr1017]

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[@ScannerDanner]

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[@donwasse7892]

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[@m.r1164]

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[@ScannerDanner]

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[@m.r1164]

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[@ScannerDanner]

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[@m.r1164]

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[@ScannerDanner]

@@m.r1164 that I can do!

[@Airman..]

SD is a Top notch instructor

[@RamonRodrigues-s6g]

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[@ScannerDanner]

That's awesome man, thank you!

[@FlatLineRacing4650]

Guys, you need to listen to this man. He has years of experience on multiple vehicles and his teaching is second to none. If you listen you will definitely learn the proper way to diagnose a problem. As always thanks to Danner.👍👍👍

[@ScannerDanner]

Thanks for that!

[@isalmankhan1]

AWESOME👍🏻 Can't Thank you enough for sharing this one SD😍 These old systems are perfect to practice & master on to better understand & fix newer systems👍🏻 STAY BLESSED SD😍

[@ScannerDanner]

Same types of control! Learn this and apply it to everything. Thanks brother

[@brian2359]

Great video as always Paul! Appreciate the time you take to put these together.

[@onemechca]

Great video Paul. Thanks for bringing memories back from the good old days on those systems my friend.

[@douglash3129]

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[@ScannerDanner]

Wow, thank you!

[@williamakers3990]

These are always my favorite If you still teach like this man id like to sit in person I got so many questions Congrats on the recent 30 year anniversary ✊🏻

[@Pablo_Automotive]

Thanks Paul for another great class, it's always nice see basic systems with a great explanatión.

[@ScannerDanner]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@labrat6910]

Paul you are awesome bro.

[@Phantomas2011]

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[@legitmilkman98]

Good video and it's something I can relate to since I have a F-150 with EEC-IV. Its great to see how all these older systems can be used to learn the basics and apply them to modern ones. Like wise it's nice to see how both modern troubleshooting techniques as well as proven basic ones can be used to diagnose older systems. I'm thinking the ignition module on this Bronco has failed but would like to see you work through the process to confirm it. Its a common problem on the trucks for them to fail since the early ones like mine (86-91) were located on the distributor and got cooked from engine heat. Later on they moved it to the fender well with a heat sink to help the issue. Good reminder for me to relocate mine before I have this issue. As far as the stuck solenoid I'd say you reacted well but if I do jump the solenoid to start it under the hood, I like to keep the negative cable loosen ahead of time just in case I need to shut off the vehicle or it gets stuck. But I also usually prefer to avoid jumping it too many times to avoid hurting the ECU and would rather either just use the key or a push start like you ended up doing. I never have done it but I know you can also start old Chryslers from under the hood as well like old Fords and just pull the wire off the ballast resistor to stop it from running.

[@Watchyn_Yarwood]

As a teenager wanna be mechanic, among the first two tools I bought was a timing light and a remote starter button. (in the 60s!)

[@sheerwillsurvival2064]

Keep these coming great information and knowledge

[@willizWMI]

Thanks for the video

[@Info-Tech-]

Nice lectures

[@KStewart-th4sk]

I had a brand-new starter solenoid do that on my 1971 Mustang. I had just installed it, started the car, and thought i could hear my starter still engaged. Shut the engine off and the engine continued to turn over. I was moving pretty fast after that. LOL That was many decades ago so i don't think it was Chinese garbage but...? Car is long gone and i wish i still had it now.

[@timwheeler1503]

I knew aliens made transistors, no other explanation, now it's confirmed. I thought you reacted well on the solenoid stuck, you hit it with the screwdriver as I was saying smack it with a hammer. 🤣🤣

[@ScannerDanner]

😂 the pitfalls of live troubleshooting with a 15 sets of eyes on you

[@heny3231]

@@ScannerDanner Hi Paul, it is also one of the bonus features of your videos, we get to see real events that could happen to anyone, even one of the best technicians and teachers I have had the pleasure to watch. Thank you for sharing your exceptional skills and moreover your thought process and issues encountered.

[@timwheeler1503]

@@ScannerDanner Everytime, notice how the solenoid didn't stick when you were ready for it. Just as you said many variables of troubleshooting, there is always something that never happens, that happens from time to time. If we literally tried to think of everything, we wouldn't ever get anything finished.

[@cwj9202]

Where gas density is disproportionate to spark strength, that is Paschens Law, and you are right that many do not understand that. This is how I explain it: Suppose a player, say ScannerDanner, is on a football field, and he must run the entire length of the field to score. ScannerDanner, the mighty electron, weighs 220 and stands 6’3”, and there are tacklers (air molecules) spaced every ten yards down the field. Well, mighty SD blasts right through the tacklers never losing momentum - he runs, he scores, he sparks! However, on the following series, the defense adjusts and places tacklers every five yards down the field, and on this play, SD can’t score, because he loses too much momentum from hitting all the extra tacklers. So, mighty SD adjusts by pumping iron and gaining thirty pounds of pure muscle (voltage), thus allowing him now to plow through the new defense never losing momentum.

[@ScannerDanner]

What an awesome analogy! For real. On another note, I especially love the 6'3, 220 version of me. As I'm older and fatter and shrunk a half inch lol

[@Santiago_Ordonez_]

It's perfect. 👌

[@djosbun]

If Charlie Brown had you as a teacher, Paul, he would have kicked that football from Pittsburgh to Columbus.

[@ScannerDanner]

😂😂😂

[@aleskyfinis1025]

Great videos

[@brandonslater2987]

Hey Scanner, I'm starting to think I have a break in my control wires going to the over plug ignition coils (3 wire). Would you recommend just using a led test light at the PCM and then at the coils just to see if I'm getting control? I want to get an oscilloscope eventually so I can check square wave pattern for my cam and crank because part of me feels that something is wrong there, they do however go from 0-5 using volt meter. I've narrowed it down to the car may be out of time, all 3 drivers are bad, or broken control wires. Injectors fire. I'm not sure if you know whether or not Kia Sedonas shut down both injectors and ignition coils when cam and crank signal goes bad? Your hands down the best car diagnostics on the internet, keep it up man. Thanks

[@ScannerDanner]

But you said you are seeing a 0-5v signal on your voltmeter? On the coil trigger signal?

[@brandonslater2987]

No I am seeing it on cam and crank. I bumped the key and got 0.01v, bumped key again got 5V. I checked cam and crank because I'm getting no spark. I'm assuming cam and crank are good. I can't check trigger for coils unless I get an led test light, because of 3 wire design. So basically just trying to figure the best way to check for trigger at pcm without a oscilloscope and amp meter. Man I would pay money to have you diagnose this car, it would be cool to see you figure it out in 2 seconds lol. I am a noob and spent a good 6 months on and off trying to fix it. Learned a lot along the way though. Thanks for replying.@@ScannerDanner

[@ScannerDanner]

@@brandonslater2987 on my amazon affiliate page I found an LED test light for like $13 www.amazon.com/dp/B00097CIO0?linkCode=ssc&tag=onamzscanne-20&creativeASIN=B00097CIO0&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.3JYIE5R5YCLL4&ref_=aip_sf_list_spv_ons_d_asin&th=1 Did you fix this yet?

[@nickayivor8432]

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[@nickayivor8432]

Enjoy your weekend with all your family around you, Sir ScannerDanner God bless you, Sir ScannerDanner

[@IamReadyToRock]

nice... excelente

[@benjaminrich9396]

This will be good. :)

[@jeffco908]

Ive always used the "suck squeeze bang blow" Need air and fuel in, need to compress it, need to ignite it then need to get it out.

[@clems6989]

These things are notorious for the solenoud contacts sticking (welding). Ford under sized these relays ...

[@fascistpedant758]

You should send that diagram @20:50 to Congress. They're looking for alien technology.

[@ralfsautomotive]

Any time you are manipulating a starter circuit you could be asking for trouble!! Take my word for it!! It could happen to a seasoned technician.

[@Fred-xo3ku]

As a student if you can't read a wiring diagram, use a dmm and a Oscope, you wasted your time and money 💰, listening to this guy babble for hours. 😂

[@ScannerDanner]

🤣

[@PaulCTownsend]

Part 2 ?

[@ScannerDanner]

I'll have it up soon. You're a premium member too right Paul? The entire series is on my website. Thanks!

[@PaulCTownsend]

@@ScannerDanner Yes I am but I'm a poor navigator.

[@douglash3129]

Paul, you gotta go back and see the look on your face!

[@gwh21375]

ICM most likely

[@ScannerDanner]

Not the point of this class 😉

[@k30krazy]

Anyone else flash back to the mustang when he said ots unlikely the new coil is bad? Lol

[@ScannerDanner]

The Mustang was a bad new module but yeah for sure. This was pretty covid though lol

[@gwh21375]

That's a bad starter solenoid!

[@CareyH64]

Relay not solenoid. There is a difference. A solenoid pushes or pulls somthing. A relay only transfers current.

[@ScannerDanner]

In this case, that starter solenoid is in fact one giant relay. What is the solenoid actuating? A very heavy load side contact switch, exactly like a relay. You're not wrong, but neither am I if I called it a relay. Because that is exactly what it is doing. It is taking a small current and controlling a larger current