Wiped Cam Lobe/Lifter After 4000 Miles?

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6 ай бұрын

This is a 1972 413 Wedge from an RV that was put in my 78 Power Wagon, with the original owner claiming full engine rebuild with .030 pistons, a steel crank, heads shaved and a new cam. I put less than 4000 miles on it and it wiped a cam lobe and lifter. A full engine rebuild is going to be getting done with a collaboration with ‪@JAMSIONLINE‬
Here is the first video in the rebuild series!
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@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
This is a 1972 413 Wedge from an RV that was put in my 78 Power Wagon, with the original owner claiming full engine rebuild with .030 pistons, a steel crank, heads shaved and a new cam. I put less than 4000 miles on it and it wiped a cam lobe and lifter. A full engine rebuild is going to be getting done with a collaboration with @JAMSIONLINE Here is the first video in the rebuild series! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZKYoYdtptZoY8ksi=WOnx91BPxsZb3EWz
@peacepoet1947
@peacepoet1947 6 ай бұрын
Best wishes on the rebuild. Got some U-joint issues on the 94 GMC Sierra C3500 used U-Haul truck.
@nickd920
@nickd920 6 ай бұрын
Looks like one of those times you don't run the break in oil for the cam.
@scottschantz2553
@scottschantz2553 6 ай бұрын
Paul,, I'm an ex Mac Tools distributor turned technician for many years. I serviced Jim's Machine Shop back in the day. These guys are solid. You're in good hands with these guys! I'll be watching the rebuild. Good luck.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
That's awesome, thanks for sharing. I feel like I'm in good hands
@peacepoet1947
@peacepoet1947 6 ай бұрын
@@ScannerDanner how did you bend the push rod which you did not explain how you bent bent it?
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
@@peacepoet1947 careless re-installation and believe it or not, super easy to do lol
@peacepoet1947
@peacepoet1947 6 ай бұрын
@@ScannerDanner still doesn't explain how it is easily done by anyone who pulls a head gasket replacement. Do you need to rotate the crank shaft as you tighten down the head bolts?
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 5 ай бұрын
@@peacepoet1947 whoops, lol. probably had it sitting on the lifter edge instead of in the socket or it snuck down below the rocker socket. I'd imagine it either had vale to piston contact to bend or full coil bind. it likely needs different length pushrods anyway, depending on the build parts and machine work.
@SuperSecretSquirell
@SuperSecretSquirell 6 ай бұрын
Who knew Chrylser perfected cylinder deactivation that long ago lol. That's rough man, but at least you'll know it's going back together correctly.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
🤣
@darnoldie
@darnoldie 6 ай бұрын
Been watching their videos for a while now. They take a lot of pride in what they do. Love watching KZbinrs cooperate on projects.
@AnotherOpportunity
@AnotherOpportunity 6 ай бұрын
I’ve been a JAMSI subscriber for a while now. You’re right about the lack of machine shops left. They are dwindling as fast as the talent they once had. Jim’s is a solid choice. I only worry about the influx of jobs they are about to be presented with 😊. Nice pick Danner.
@williamwertman24
@williamwertman24 6 ай бұрын
Yeah. I have 5 near me. One is a specialist in drive shaft balancing, one is a specialist in race engines, 2 are general machinists and one is an older guy that is not far from closing up.
@mph5896
@mph5896 6 ай бұрын
Yup, I have one in my area run in the back of a large mom and pop auto parts store. Never had an issue with their work. But I cringe every time I get the bill😂. Oh well, great work is not cheap.
@sicklad3277
@sicklad3277 6 ай бұрын
it’s probably cause new engines are so much harder to rebuild, throwaway engines or usually just not worth it that the only machine shops left are just keeping the old stuff running and doing performance work, because obviously there’s no new cars rolling in they all just end up at scrapyard once their time is up and the owner just buys himself a new car from the dealer.
@louiskogok8940
@louiskogok8940 4 ай бұрын
Paul, I have watched every Jamsi video. I think you made the right decision sending the 413 there. I made a comment to them once that when the time came for my 03' 5.3L to be rebuilt, I was going to crate it up and send it out to them. Awesome content for sure.
@jimmyray2008
@jimmyray2008 5 ай бұрын
Funny thing is when i was watching your video and mentioned you were looking for a machine shop i thought of Jims Automotive right away as i follow them and watch all their vids. They are the most knowledgeble machine shop channels that i follow and i enjoy their content. I cant wait to watch your block getting done. Ive built a few engines and 😅 an super careful to keep the cylinders oiled and keep it wrapped in a plastic bag at the end of each day to keep dust, dirt and even hair out of it. I was blown away when i saw someone painted the inside of the oil pan!!!! What! LOL They were definently not engine builders 🤣🤣🤣.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 5 ай бұрын
glad to have you along for the ride! Thank you
@jeffmiller6100
@jeffmiller6100 6 ай бұрын
This just shows another part of the automotive Field that is slowly vanishing. Finding a good machine Shop is near impossible in many areas of the USA. hopefully this video will jump start a your person to get in the machine shop Training school 😢 Good luck Danner . I believe your engine is in a good Place now 👌😅 In
@PaulCTownsend
@PaulCTownsend 5 ай бұрын
You've made a really good choice taking to those two guys they are great.
@michaelgleason4791
@michaelgleason4791 6 ай бұрын
This is so cool. I watch those guys occasionally and they're great.
@paisleyprince5280
@paisleyprince5280 6 ай бұрын
Our current machine shop is 30 miles away, depending on the season it could be a 2 or 3 month wait to get engine parts back. They do excellent work but damn times have changed.
@StevesAutoNtrucks
@StevesAutoNtrucks 6 ай бұрын
S.M.O. in Houston PA. is a great machine shop if you ever need 1 local in the future
@scrappy7571
@scrappy7571 6 ай бұрын
Also a subscriber of Jim's. They are the real deal! This will be a cool collaboration. I was confused when they said it was a 1972 413, never knew those were still made in the 70's.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
Industrial versions only. Thanks!
@JOHNPHUFNAGEL
@JOHNPHUFNAGEL 6 ай бұрын
There's a engine shop in Butler, Ashcraft Speed and Marine. They are top of the line engine shop that does Monster truck engines to small cars. I have had a few engines done by them; you could eat off their shop floor! I have never seen an engine shop that clean.
@rogerjustice8835
@rogerjustice8835 6 ай бұрын
That’s one of the most beautiful power wagons I’ve seen in a long time. I love those trucks, my son and I are big fans of Dodge trucks. He drives a very clean 92 short bed 4x4 318 auto, he’s owned it and daily driven it for 9 years with only routine maintenance. I’ve owned a 97 12 valve 5 speed for 25 years, back in 2020 bought a new Ram 1500 5.7 4x4 and absolutely love it as well. My son and I are looking at a 92 ramcharger as a father son project.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! So you understand then why I am not upset about the engine 😊
@rogerjustice8835
@rogerjustice8835 6 ай бұрын
@@ScannerDanner yes most definitely
@OscarSegundo
@OscarSegundo 6 ай бұрын
I follow their channel and came across that video and got excited when they mentioned you and the truck. Looking forward to the outcome!
@DependableAutoTruck
@DependableAutoTruck 6 ай бұрын
Bullet cams in Georgia builds most of the camshafts in southern US.
@anthonykendrick1418
@anthonykendrick1418 6 ай бұрын
Wise choice. My other choice would've been Nick'sGarage in Canada. Now let's see this beast come back to life in her full colors. 👍
@johnglave7958
@johnglave7958 6 ай бұрын
Jamsi to build, nicks to tune
@anthonykendrick1418
@anthonykendrick1418 6 ай бұрын
@@johnglave7958 Absolutely 👍
@codo7
@codo7 6 ай бұрын
Put roller cam, roller lifters and roller rockers in...spending dough I suppose...the zinc oil will become harder to obtain than it is already and the roller goodies work well with synthetic oil. Zinc going out the exhaust ruins catalytic convertors. I have been watching JAMSI for awhile. I was happy to see your site connected with them. I was told zinc is only necessary for valve train; roller hardware eliminates need for it so then can use synthetic.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
Agree! Roller everything lol
@txsviking
@txsviking 6 ай бұрын
This will be fun.
@GroundedDiagnostics
@GroundedDiagnostics 6 ай бұрын
Gunna give that a watch.😊😊
@davidhall3747
@davidhall3747 6 ай бұрын
Paul: Never trust what a seller tells you about the so called Engine Repairs. I bought 2006 Lincoln Mark LT that supposedly had all new Timing Chain Components replaced as new. Within 5000 miles of me driving it, the Right side Timing Chain Tensioner Seal failed. The Chain jumped a Tooth and the Cam/ Crank correlation DTC was thrown, (i e.) the Chain jumped a tooth on the Cam Phaser. I subsequently rebuilt the Engine with all new Ford Timing Chain components, VCT Solenoids, and a new Oil Pump. I cleaned the debris out of the Oil Pan and Pick- up Screen. The Truck has been running great for one year now. I like your Wood Burning Stove, we use ours as redundant heat and for emergency cooking.
@nandor690
@nandor690 6 ай бұрын
LS Swap LS Swap!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 JK. I love that we get to go along for the ride too. Iv been watching JAMSI for about 7 months now. I think that’s when they randomly stared popping up in my feed. I think I even mentioned them to you when you were talking about rebuilding on one of your videos. This is gonna be so cool to see start to finish
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
Maybe it was you that started this process then!
@douglash3129
@douglash3129 6 ай бұрын
I watch all their videos Paul and I won't miss this series!!!!
@Phantomas2011
@Phantomas2011 6 ай бұрын
Good luck with this rebuild Paul! Love it, it’ll be sweet to watch the process and see the finished engine! Enjoy it!!! 😀
@GarySmith-up1un
@GarySmith-up1un 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful Power Wagon ! I hated selling Mine.
@HeyBirt
@HeyBirt 6 ай бұрын
The last engine I rebuilt was a Ford 351M about 25 years ago. I used a local shop in a nearby small town, Eagle Machine in Buffalo Missouri. Don't live in that area any longer but just looked, and they are still in business. A friend and I pulled the engine, pulled the heads, etc. and cleaned the worst of the gunk off. The whole short block and bits were loaded into the back of my 1993 Geo Tracker and dropped off at Eagle. They got a big kick out of my Tracker with a 'small block' in it. They did a great job and I would recommend them to anyone in that neck of the woods.
@mike-yp1uk
@mike-yp1uk 5 ай бұрын
It's an awesome looking truck
@V_Vladimir_V
@V_Vladimir_V 6 ай бұрын
Было бы очень круто смотреть совместные видео с Джимми и Николаусом!)
@glenforehand
@glenforehand 5 ай бұрын
That truck is gorgeous! Their shop is super clean! I am so excited for this series Paul!!!
@Pablo_Automotive
@Pablo_Automotive 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Paul for another great video.
@snooketcher
@snooketcher 6 ай бұрын
Already follow JAMSI, stoked for the collaboration!
@Motham51
@Motham51 6 ай бұрын
How cool is that! A good friend had a Power Wagon, '69 I think, with a 318.
@andrewgoforth6891
@andrewgoforth6891 6 ай бұрын
Can’t grow your Channels when I already watch both of yours 😅 you two, Schrödingers cat, boss garage, uncle Tony, and David vizard the real o.g.
@stevodakine1
@stevodakine1 6 ай бұрын
Jim is PRO!
@yurimodin7333
@yurimodin7333 6 ай бұрын
413's are awesome, glad you got a good shop to work on it.....one word of advice.....bite the bullet and spend the money on the roller cam. I know its expensive but its alot better than doing the engine twice.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
That is the plan!
@Flatlandproductionz
@Flatlandproductionz 6 ай бұрын
Thats cool because i love both of your channels.
@CoroPlanesLLC
@CoroPlanesLLC 6 ай бұрын
This promises to be a good series! I will be looking for the updates!
@josephs9268
@josephs9268 6 ай бұрын
Glad to see some headway on the truck. A 413 stroker would be pretty awesome and give you loads of torque down low to have some fun with. No matter what you guys decide to do I look forward to seeing it all come back together and you back in the drivers seat with your kool aid smile 😁 enjoying your self. Good times. Much love brother 👊🏼
@rustypotatos
@rustypotatos 6 ай бұрын
I love it when fully grown men play arts and crafts with their engines and whip out the spray paint.
@dirtyscant3447
@dirtyscant3447 6 ай бұрын
very cool.Thanks for sharing.
@user-io3hw7hx7q
@user-io3hw7hx7q 6 ай бұрын
AWESOME OUTSTANDING JOB THANKS
@chriszasada9756
@chriszasada9756 6 ай бұрын
Glad both of you are doing this engine . I have watched Jim's channel and they are very very good . So you will have a great engine once everything is said and done . Kudos to you
@mph5896
@mph5896 6 ай бұрын
Should be a fun project. I personally have 0 motivation to assemble any engines. Most I get into is pulling heads, swapping cams, timing work and resealing. Short block work is to much risk for me. I’ll do automatic trans rebuilds without blinking an eye though
@rhkips
@rhkips 6 ай бұрын
This particular engine is entirely out of my wheelhouse, but very cool to see! I'm definitely seeing storage damage on those cylinder walls, but I'm leaning more towards the painted oil pan being the culprit of your camshaft woes. Good time to see about the possibility of a roller-lifter conversion, though! I'm absolutely heading over to that JAMSI page and subscribing! It's a dying art, and to see a father-son duo at the helm is just about the most awesome thing ever! Wishing you and yours a very merry Christmas. :)
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! And Merry Christmas to you too
@MeLoNHeAd00
@MeLoNHeAd00 6 ай бұрын
The right flat tappet from a quality company is always good but if one has no budget roller is the way to go ! I have a few companies (2) I have yet to have a flat tappet fail. I also make sure if it is flat tappet my customers let me break it in for them .
@chomp520
@chomp520 6 ай бұрын
Them guys know there stuff. Love watching em good choice.
@ws2664
@ws2664 6 ай бұрын
Jim's machine is a really good choice, I've been watching a lot of there videos and I really like there work. If they suggest a roller cam, go with it!
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
I think that part if a given for sure! Thanks!
@James-fs4rn
@James-fs4rn 6 ай бұрын
👍 glad you found some good help. That's getting harder and harder to come by. Hopefully they can break in the cam for you before shipping back. That wiping issue is a real problem these days. Man I want a Luck pup too! Merry Christmas and happy New year to y'all!
@littletreesdiy4222
@littletreesdiy4222 6 ай бұрын
I'm a subscriber to Jim's channel, this is awesome can't wait to see all the videos 👍
@garyradtke3252
@garyradtke3252 6 ай бұрын
I have been watching their channel for almost a year now because they seem to do good work and very experienced in many types of engines from farm equipment to small engine. Where I am from most of this type of shop is gone now. There are still automotive machine shops but most only want to do the machining and no building other than a few race shops but they don't want to work on production stuff especially old school.
@velocity550
@velocity550 6 ай бұрын
Wow, brings back a ton of memories. I worked for Ed Miller racing right out of high school and we had a full machine shop and I can't remember how many 340/360/413/426 wedge/hemi/440s I built for racing. I think maybe the guy that bought the engine was probably telling you what he was told. It doesn't sound like the guy built the engine, he probably bought it from someone else. I did an engine swap in a 1969 Charger from a 318 to a 440 and the guy bought a "rebuilt" engine from an individual. It turns out it was out of a service truck with low compression pistons, never rebuilt. I'm thinking the whole time I would be going with the 426 hemi crate motor. Nothing like opening the hood and seeing those massive valve covers.
@randyr.parker2698
@randyr.parker2698 6 ай бұрын
COOL! Good to know you were able to find someone that still has the right tools/equipment to bore out these older engines. Seriously didn't figure there was anyone left still out there. Yep, seen a few of that 'aluminum colored black oil' a few times myself back in the day. Chevy 265, 283, 327, 350, 396, 402, 454's, OH, THOSE were the days! We used to have a guy in our area back in the late 70's, early 80's that was a 'master' of Dodge/Chrysler engines, and could he make them run. We called him 'Speedo Platt', his last name was Platt of course. He's long gone, sure miss his engine builds! Should be a good runner when they're done with it! VERY lucky that the engine is unmolested, VERY rare these days to find one of those! DAMN that cylinder wall looked bad! OUCH! Can't wait ti see the end result.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
As disappointing as it was to know this engine did not have the work that was claimed, I'm equally excited to hear how much it hasn't been touched! Original 72 bearings and a good crankshaft! I'll take it!
@keithcalitri840
@keithcalitri840 6 ай бұрын
This is awesome I’m sorry to hear you were lied to but it seams like you deff found the right guys to fix you back up can’t wait to follow this build
@geralddrury4829
@geralddrury4829 6 ай бұрын
True on the RB 413. Very low Compression on your engine may 8.0 to 1. My 383HP 10.25 to 1 sat for over 25 years after rebuild and 3 years of previous drag and street use on NOS in unconditioned spaces. The rockers were loosened as to keep the valves closed. No issues after car restoration in 2012 and refire in 2014 to today. I did have a rocker failure and bent pushrod from an over rev in 2020 after a best in show win that caused no other issues. The cam was installed in 1995 and is a Mopar Purple 509/292 flat tappet! I used Kendal Straight 40W in the day and now use Valvoline VR1 SAE 40 High Zinc. Never have been an issue on my LB 383!
@happygarage6310
@happygarage6310 6 ай бұрын
That is exciting. I dable in the mechanical side a fair bit, there's so much to learn. Especially when it cones to bearing wear, cylinder bore inspection, cylinder head and deck surface cleaning and inspection, its a different skillset. I believe that even though you and I are more adept at the electrical portion, having a basic knowledge of what's should be is very important. The cars sensors can give good data on what's happening, and knowing more of the mechanics can help us better understand why.
@IbanezGuitarz87
@IbanezGuitarz87 6 ай бұрын
This is so cool!!
@orfeous
@orfeous 6 ай бұрын
Ofcourse your boxerdog(s) wants to join you :) I would like to see more of them if possible some day :)
@jmc6940
@jmc6940 6 ай бұрын
Those guys are a+++ and honest
@DaveMcLain
@DaveMcLain 6 ай бұрын
CWC Textron has suspended cast iron cam core production for the foreseeable future so in the not so distant future a reground cam or a roller cam will be the only option. Most shops today just have too much shop work to do and don't have time to do a lot of assembly work. A big Chrysler is a pretty friendly engine that's not difficult to rebuild.
@Mark-zz9rt
@Mark-zz9rt 6 ай бұрын
Sweet looking truck. I had a 76 D100 back in the day. Hopefully the guys at the machine shop can save your engine.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
I'm certain it's in good hands!
@tracydiller9378
@tracydiller9378 6 ай бұрын
Great video Paul and I have been following Jim's Machine Shop for some time now and really enjoy there channel. I watched the first video of the 413 wedge being torn down, looking forward to follow thru this rebuild. God Bless.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@tracydiller9378
@tracydiller9378 6 ай бұрын
You Bet.@@ScannerDanner
@joesmo4749
@joesmo4749 6 ай бұрын
Now i realize how blessed i am for the machine shop i use!
@joesmo4749
@joesmo4749 6 ай бұрын
Cylinder Head Service
@tomtke7351
@tomtke7351 6 ай бұрын
Love it! I've subscribed to Jims. And I kno it will be really cool so thx for referencing them. That truck will be awesome when done!... but hurry up!!! Gas engines are doomed¿¿¿¿
@craiggerber3740
@craiggerber3740 6 ай бұрын
still a cool truck. fix er up.
@tincankiller6454
@tincankiller6454 6 ай бұрын
Love that truck. Enjoyed the video will fallow the rebuild. I have a 78 Ram Charger that I used for backwoods/backpacking get to location truck. Its way rougher than yours but it got you where you needed to go and was very reliable. Stay Safe & Good Luck
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
I would love a backwoods 78 Ramcharger! One you're not afraid to scratch. Happy for you man. I have some 8 lug hubs/wheel bearings, rotors, spindles, outer axle stub shafts for a full-time 4x4 set up. It all has like 5 miles on them. I converted mine to locking hubs. If you want them their yours, you just have to come get them (Pittsburgh pa)
@tincankiller6454
@tincankiller6454 6 ай бұрын
Man, that would be a nice but sadly have to pass. Poor girl hasn't been started in years and when I did it had a miss "not a plug or wire" did not have the time to fix her, too many higher priority projects "mainly building-finishing house & small farm". Would like to have done same thing you did convert to locking hubs., full time nice, but 90% of time it's really not needed. She's definitely a brush truck lots of rust, poor man pin-stripping, cracked windshield due to rock falling from bluff, even has a bullet hole or two. Thanks for the offer love to see your truck, I'll bet theirs someone who will take ya up on the offer. Looking forward to your videos. Stay Safe & Good Luck
@careyautorepairs
@careyautorepairs 6 ай бұрын
Nice truck.
@95turbostang21
@95turbostang21 5 ай бұрын
Sitting with a piston down and a valve open will absolutely cause rust pitting if not fogged. I always spray some lubricant once in a while in the cylinders when I have a motor sitting for a while
@calebldanner
@calebldanner 6 ай бұрын
Cant believe you took credit for building that engine crate. Who called who to come over and help? 😂
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
😂😂
@diydantex6150
@diydantex6150 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I studied automotive machine shop 69-71 last years of high school. I got away from fixing cars for a living a long time ago but i still fix. I have learned a lot form your videos and others on KZbin. I was planning to buy your ebook but your site is down.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 5 ай бұрын
My site is fine. Just checked. If you're having issues email support@scannerdanner.com Thank you!
@stevodakine1
@stevodakine1 6 ай бұрын
Bro, that is one of the most dreaded sounds! Happened to me about 3 months ago. F that, I converted to a roller. Was worth every penny.
@daviddrennan1759
@daviddrennan1759 6 ай бұрын
Scroggins machine in Houston TX. They do the whole build. That's who I use
@zaneturner4478
@zaneturner4478 6 ай бұрын
Something to keep in mind. Mopar motors were built with either a standard or automatic crankshaft. The automatic transmission crankshaft is not machined for pilot shaft bushing and people do a butcher job on them trying to make it work. Hopefully whoever done this motor actually found a crankshaft for a standard trans which would be rather hard to come by.
@richardcranium5839
@richardcranium5839 6 ай бұрын
you're right about no good machine shops around. even worse is the lack of good machinists to run them. the good ones use manual machines and use the seat of thier pants. all these kids now days know is how to g-code a cnc.
@johnreid859
@johnreid859 6 ай бұрын
I will watch the process. Some might say you have a lead foot. 👍
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
😂
@johnmckamy6398
@johnmckamy6398 6 ай бұрын
One recommendation is to put in a retro roller cam and lifters if they make one.
@photoshopman1972
@photoshopman1972 6 ай бұрын
Sorry that the motor turned out to be not what was sold. I know of that pain with my friends when they bought an 55 with an original 272 Y block in it. We ended up having to pull it and go through it. When we did break her down, we saw in it a lot of FoMoCo pieces in it including bearings! I’m no machine shop nor a super mechanic but I was able to source a new old stock piston and get this ol girl running once more. I can handle this old school stuff. The new stuff is what I’m playing 52 catchup with hence why I watch your channel to help me get up to speed some. Thank you for sharing not only your knowledge domain but issues like this as well. Completely different note, that’s a beautiful boxer you have sir. I had two of them and they’re wonderful. Thank you for all you do!
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. This is our 3rd boxer. Just put our oldest down last month 🥲 But we love our new little guy and I agree he's super handsome. Oh and in hindsight, I'm excited the bottom end of this engine was never touched and is in the shape it is in!
@photoshopman1972
@photoshopman1972 6 ай бұрын
@@ScannerDanner glad to hear that the bottom end is in untouched shape! That is what we found in that 272 I spoke of earlier. Sorry for your loss on your fur baby. We lost ours about 2 years ago suddenly. I do plan on getting another one sometime. Thank you for your videos! Your knowledge has recently helped me out tons!
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
​@@photoshopman1972don't wait any longer! A new puppy is the best medicine
@ellieprice363
@ellieprice363 6 ай бұрын
Ford only made the 372 for early ‘55. Engine was upgraded to 392 for ‘56/ ‘57 and 312 for the T Bird and Crown Vic.
@photoshopman1972
@photoshopman1972 6 ай бұрын
@@ellieprice363 yes the 272 was the early Y block and it went from it to the 292 and later to the 312 and 312 interceptor. This one is definitely an 272. Both the numbers and bore size confirm it. Cool to see someone knows a bit about it his weird engine Ford came up with. 👍
@paulportugal4018
@paulportugal4018 6 ай бұрын
This collaboration is goin to be epic. They are a great machine shop. It's like watching you do your thing danner but more manly 😂 jk I like electrical side of the house as much as the engine building. Best collaboration in a long time......
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
I agree! With all of it! And yes, this is going to be awesome!
@jeepguymb45
@jeepguymb45 6 ай бұрын
Never hurts to move out of your comfort zone every now and then.
@oldschool9746
@oldschool9746 6 ай бұрын
I sure hope you install a roller cam into it!
@lucionsrandom5195
@lucionsrandom5195 6 ай бұрын
Commenting as a go... I've ben watching all of your videos for years, but find PAINT on the inside of the OIL PAN?! Nah, you are in no way at fault. I can't even fathom why someone would attempt to do that. Flat tappet cams. Been there my whole DIY car guy life with SOHC VG30 Nissans. With what you explained about the Chinese metal not having enough Zinc... I feel. Give her the good 'ol ZDDP treatment on the very first oil change after rebuild. From what you've said, this definitely wasn't done. JAMSI?! awesome! I've been seeing a lot of their stuff coming through my FB feed. I would even say your adventure with them sparked a lot of traffic for them and yourself! I'm glad a reputable shop took care of you! You're still hands down in my top KZbinrs list.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@WrenchHead
@WrenchHead 6 ай бұрын
Back when I worked at a GM dealer, we had a small bottle of engine assembly oil we could use when doing internal repairs. It has high amounts of zinc. Many other oil additives may have the same. Just a thought. Oh...and was it ever confirmed that the cam was swapped and lifters were reused, or cam and lifter swap?
@brian2359
@brian2359 6 ай бұрын
Paul, I still can’t believe he painted the INSIDE of the oil pan! I feel for ya, I hate that feeling that what you brought isn’t what you paid for!
@randyr.parker2698
@randyr.parker2698 6 ай бұрын
Yea, I about shit when I saw that!!!! LOL! Who the hell does such things!
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
It's all good! I'm happy with what I'm seeing so far with the bottom end!
@brian2359
@brian2359 6 ай бұрын
@@ScannerDanner Heck yea! Big relief it’s untouched! I’ve seen some of their videos were the block is 60 over and the owner thought it was touched!! Gonna be great content, that father and son team are great people!
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 5 ай бұрын
that screams lazy sloppy fast paint job, probably had everything hanging and sprayed it all at once. very likely unmasked, all massive overspray and didn't care. surprised the heads and everything else wasn't painted too.
@douglash3129
@douglash3129 6 ай бұрын
Hi Paul, sorry about your engine, but you struck gold when you sent your 413 to JAMSI , They will do it and do it right and it's gonna rip! I can't wait to watch them machine and rebuild your 413 and then see your face when you drive it the first time! yaa buddy!!🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
@JimmyMakingitwork
@JimmyMakingitwork 6 ай бұрын
Sucks about the cam lobe, seen so many of them now, even my own project (I did not build the engine) is developing a tick now. But you are in good hands from the videos I've seen, they have their shiznit together! I would recommend a mild build if you're wanting to drive the truck. The more radical you go the sooner you'll be getting it done again.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
I probably will put 1500 miles on this a year. I want something that rips! Lol
@stephenmoxley3004
@stephenmoxley3004 6 ай бұрын
This is going to be a really cool video series. With the advances in technology, would a hydraulic roller cam be in order? Looks like you're going to end up with a really nice engine.
@ToddAdams1234
@ToddAdams1234 6 ай бұрын
FROM NOW ON you should just run diesel oil! It’s got more zinc in it than regular oil of the old days. I run the Rotella 5-40w synthetic blue jug, even in my 99 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L with about 330k on it. It runs great and it’s hardly seen an easy mile. I should know, I’ve had it since it was BRAND NEW!
@timothyearp631
@timothyearp631 5 ай бұрын
So, I am new to this channel. I discovered this channel from watching the tear down and more recent short block work on this engine. My opinion is that someone actually checked the engine over and threw some paint on it and called it a rebuild. Sad that people do that shit. The cam lobe was coil bind, someone failed to check that the springs and valves were compatible with the cam, but with the paint issue the engine was doomed anyway so the decision to pull the engine when you did was timely. just my opinion.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 5 ай бұрын
Agree! 100% shotty work on the engine. But in the original owners defense, I'd have given him his asking price even if it didn't have an engine in it! They just don't come this clean. Thanks for the comment!
@rustypotatos
@rustypotatos 6 ай бұрын
Jamsi for the win
@davidpotter7484
@davidpotter7484 6 ай бұрын
There are a lot of motors painted inside, or at least there used to be. But it has to be done properly. It's problem not rattle can paint, or latex house paint.
@sheerwillsurvival2064
@sheerwillsurvival2064 6 ай бұрын
I worked at a dodge dealership back in the 70s and 80s you can rebuild 360 and 340 as long as bore taper is less than 60 thousands . 318 are almost as durable. I don’t know electronics that much but I was the engine guy . Just rebuild it 👊🏻 the 413 should be same as long as 60 thousands left to bore. Going to be great 👊🏻
@DependableAutoTruck
@DependableAutoTruck 6 ай бұрын
keep in mind a properly built 413 will build more HP and Torque than you can use in the vehicle you have just bore if needed and put flat top pistons mild cam you will be happy
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 6 ай бұрын
As someone that occasionally does automotive machine work in my shop I can say Jim’s is spot on in what they do. Those heads are not original I don’t believe as the 413 industrial used a different bolt orientation on the manifolds and yours obviously didn’t have the massive truck manifolds on it so pretty sure it’s just a 413 truck bottom end with a cam and some 440 heads.
@cullenmiller8170
@cullenmiller8170 6 ай бұрын
Your wood stove must have some good fire bricks in the bottom for your cat not to instantly combust laying under that stove. 🤣🤣 I guess the good news is that the block and crank are stock and should be able to be machined.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 6 ай бұрын
🤣 yeah for sure. It is well lined with firebrick and doesn't get real hot at all under there. The cats are always there!
@chucklemberg4968
@chucklemberg4968 6 ай бұрын
It looks like the guy forgot to paint the inside of the cylinders when he painted the inside of the oil pan. If he had, maybe there wouldn't be rust in the cylinders due to a protective layer of paint.
@Sublimethoughtswithnathan
@Sublimethoughtswithnathan 6 ай бұрын
lets see those spring pressures before the heads are stripped down
@iknowyourebrokeauto468
@iknowyourebrokeauto468 6 ай бұрын
YOU HAVE TO USE HIGH ZINC OIL IN EVERY OIL CHANGE WITH FLAT TAPPETS. New oil does not have enough zinc to keep the cam and lifters in good condition
@jeffhowell3310
@jeffhowell3310 6 ай бұрын
I cant help my self, should of bought a ford, lol. Love watchinc your content
@peanutbutterisfu
@peanutbutterisfu 4 ай бұрын
20 years pro tech here I specialize in engine work and was a drag racer so I did a lot of builds. I met a lot of back yard do it urself people in racing everyone has “the guy” that builds engines in his garage. I’ll tell one story which is very common so I go to my buddies house he’s got this guy over helping him with his engine that had a rod knock, the guy just slammed bearings, oil pump and rings in it, I said how was the crank did u get it polished? Did you have the rod that was knocking rebuilt or get a new one? The guy said everything was good I laughed and said no way it has oil pressure after 50 miles. Well on the test drive it had low oil pressure and was knocking again. I went with my buddy to look at a street car with a engine that only had one hour of run time he said he just did it. Said it had these high compression pistons and when u have experience u know a high compression engine specifically if it’s fresh feels like a diesel when u shut it off the engine stops spinning very fast and this engine didn’t, I put my bore scope in a spark plug hole and it had stock pistons lol.
@ScannerDanner
@ScannerDanner 4 ай бұрын
Great stories! Horrifying but still great. Thanks for sharing
@stoneyswolf
@stoneyswolf 6 ай бұрын
I was looking at two holley 600 carbs I have for my 454 tunnel ram setup and one is a 6909 a factory holley for a early 70s Mopar 413. Kinda weird your video popped up.
@weshawkins7165
@weshawkins7165 6 ай бұрын
That’s sad to see. Pisses me off that people are so dishonest. That guy lied about doing the engine, wasn’t rebuilt at all. I’m better at building engines than I am the electronics side of things, that’s why I watch and subscribe to your channel. Shops around me are starting to stop building engines because of the liability issues with warranties. Bearings look like they had metal going through them.
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