Scary Missed Approach in the Mountains!! - Pilot VLOG 162

I almost didn't post this footage due to the quality issues, but I'm glad I did! This is the day before the Aspen flight (VLOG 161) where we tried to land at Eagle airport near Vail Colorado, but the weather was just too low, so we had to go missed. If you know that area, you know there are mountains all around. I hope you enjoy!
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[@Kld4402]

Cool seeing the missed approach, quality was ok, thanks for posting!

[@ENergyJimP]

Even with your overhead camera and without good audio for the left seat pilot, it was still an interesting and educational video.

[@trinipilot2246]

Awesome approach into a missed!!! Great airmanship between you guys. Being in IMC is very cool yet challenging!!! Thanks again. Shirt is pretty cool too!!

[@ryanfortin4344]

I think for a lot of us, who are instrument rated but have never "real world" gone missed, this is a must watch video.

[@stonebear]

I've done it, twice... stuff happens fast. Even faster when you're at 140kts instead of 90 and you've got a systems aircraft, wheels to fold, and a lot of cumulo grantus lurking... both of those guys were *busy* there for a good bit before the gear came up.

[@xyzaero]

The is nothing to it. you train it a lot, sometimes go missed in good weather due to ATC and once you are in the soup, you just fly and follow procedure. Training is the number one factor as in all things flying.

[@lbowsk]

@@xyzaero If there is nothing to it as you assert, then how come "First Look Maneuvers" at my airline showed that Missed Approaches was the most commonly dicked up maneuver? First Look Maneuvers are given at the start of the first Simulator session during recurrent. The crews are given scenarios with zero briefing. Just "fly the SIM and do what's required when it's required" type of evaluation. This gives the training department a "report card" of their overall performance and how well the crews retain stuff. At Brand X, these first looks told the training department loud and clear that crews needed additional practice at performing them. While a Go Around should be easy and uneventful, I have seen some real goat ropes during my career. Just watch a few YT vids and see planes going around with their gear dangling long after they initiated the event. Botched events are downloaded from the planes and then shown to crews during initial and recurrent training.

[@billnicholson2470]

Wow a lot of skill going on in the cockpit. Thanks Shaun.

[@LMays-cu2hp]

I also appreciated you about sharing that information with people who may want to become pilots. And from the exercising, I have done so much walk in so many if large airports. I do love walking and that's part of my exercise.

[@LMays-cu2hp]

Thanks again for your video earlier today about exercising and your medical information about flying.

[@Langelierdesigns]

this is as informative as your clear sky flying! Life is like a box of clouds!

[@jerrymullen9661]

Best one yet! Had me on the edge of my seat.

[@taytayflyfly7291]

I think this was one of the best videos to learn from yet

[@schroeder334]

Beautiful real world flying. Thanks for the videos.

[@N1120A]

Beautiful hand flying after the AP disconnect and then the missed.

[@joshuadolan3811]

OK yeah I was going to ask why the AP disconnected or if he chose to hand fly this challenging approach?

[@glenscheible]

Thanks for the seat. Awesome as usual.

[@flyingdutchman700]

Hi CPL. Another nice video. Keep it rolling.

[@davidharris2519]

always a good video from corporate pilot life

[@robertclemmer1292]

Very interesting! Thanks for the video!

[@MaShcode]

Always good practice. Nice team work.

[@Dr_Kenneth_Noisewater]

I had the chart up in Foreflight following along. I flew this approach a few years ago in my Cessna TR182 - on a clear day. I also flew it once to minimums in a A320 simulator at the United training center (bought some sim time in my kid’s school auction fundraiser). Turns out nature parked a mountain off the end of 25 so the minimums are high as a kite (and at all the mountain airports around here). I enjoy your videos and I learn a lot listening to your CRM and procedures. Thanks for posting these... now for Part 2.

[@rodgerhatfield3068]

Wow! Lived in gypsum/eagle and haven’t seen too many go around!, cheers Sean!, hope your stay in Gj was tolerable!

[@chelo9724]

Very nice video , now we need a tech video on the missed approach procedure Hawker wise and all involved once TOGA.. Nice AP disconnect well before the missed

[@danielmeans4498]

I use to live in Colorado and at one time I worked for a local carrier. Flew into Steamboat Springs and Aspen in the summer time. Glad Ilive in Florida now

[@gtr1952]

Thanks for sharing Sean, appreciate it! --gary

[@MrGTO-ze7vb]

Typical Florida rain storm at PBI.. Can you send some of that rain to California?? Nothing like flying IFR in a total whiteout..!!!

[@falgul21]

This is my first time to add comment... first Thank you for your videos.... great focus and concentration really need it here... after all Awesome teaching.... I appreciated ..!! good judgement !!

[@Mike7478F]

Thanks for sharing. Appreciated.

[@videopokernetwork6824]

Great video, Shaun. Can't wait to watch Part 2. Just hope there's no issues with the audio.🤣

[@torgeirbrandsnes1916]

Great vlog as always! Always expect the unexpected I have always in the back of my mind. Good job on the missed. If this would have been in the sim one of the engines would stop working and also the nose gear would not come up...

[@CorporatePilotLife]

HAHA...so true!

[@rchuyck]

Outstanding video!

[@skyking4581]

Good job. CRM makes it look easy!!

[@Daluke61]

Appreciate your call sign editing technique; hardly miss not hearing the actual the actual audio now. Have nothing to whine about... all good. Bring on part two.

[@davebowen4964]

Really appreciate your corporate perspective! It would be a pleasure to fly with you! I am currently a bush pilot out in Alaska fly the Sled Cessna 207! Keep the great videos coming!

[@tozzcat2]

In 1972-73, I worked for Rocky Mountain Airways as Director of Ground Operations. We flew into EGE with DHC-6 Otters at that time. During that time We installed a private ILS at EGE, as well as at ASE. My work week included day trips from Denver to EGE, SBS, and EGE. Later, RMA build STOLPORT at Avon CO, (Near Vail) and operated the DCH-7 into that airport.

[@LMays-cu2hp]

Thanks. Stay safe in the office for now.

[@TakeDeadAim]

IFR...."I Follow Rivers". When you go missed there and a few others....there's no messing around. Push 'em up, Suck 'em up, Pull it up! You'll be OK out west so long as you remember behind every cloud is a rock and rocks have a PK of 1.

[@canandpagee8294]

Quality was fine. Actually a good angle to see what was going on in the cockpit and your missed approach procedures.

[@davidharris2519]

Like the radio chatter when i used to fly on UA always like to listen to the atc channel on the flts

[@sirthomas9835]

I've been following for a long time and throughly enjoy your channel. If possible, it world be good to see close ups of the instrumentation. Particularly, on IFR approaches.

[@roanoketsa]

Would definitely be interested in some of those shirts....will check on the website. ;)

[@bigd-1-channel514]

Wow. No way to set it down there. Great video. White knuckle job.

[@pmh1nic]

Nice job gentlemen.

[@mariannefifield3826]

Just stumbled onto your videos yesterday. I'm a Commercial Pilot, I have hundreds of hours flying in and out of ASE, EGE, GWS, RIL and GJT. I recently retired from the FAA as an Airways Facilities Technician. For 25 years, I maintained ASE, DBL, PKN, EGE, ESJ, RL, GJT, ACD, EKR, CHE, HDN, BQZ, MTJ, and GUC Navaids: LOC, GS, LDA, DME and VORs, plus hundreds of radios and Tower equipment. Did not maintain Snow VOR (it's a contract facility). Loved watching you guys flying my old facilities. It was such a rewarding career, I sure do miss it. Believe me retirement is not all it's cracked up to be when you had a very satisfying purpose filled career knowing how you kept the airwaves safe. Must have been crazy weather that day, RIL is usually open, when ASE and EGE are down, GJT always a safe bet. Glad all my old sites kept you guys safe. Loved working in Western Colorado, most of our VORs are in the most beautiful locations on earth. If you ever get an overnight in my neck of the woods, I'd love to get a jeep and show you guys some of the site locations.

[@Individual_two]

Wow! All-pro flying on a tough day.

[@datruth9872]

Well THATS , THAT . NAIL BITER TURNED CATCHA LATER ! NICE JOB !

[@markmartin9346]

At American, we had our own approach, it was the LOC Z to 25 with minimums of 7360, 1,000 feet lower than the LDA. Used the LOC and VNAVed down. The missed was a lot different.

[@BostonBuzz]

THAT WAS AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@rikspector]

Shaun, No need to apologize, you are a consummate professional and this video was scary, I sure as hell wouldn't have wanted to see the terrain there, IFR or not. You have survived to video and fly another day,Amen. Those planes in the hanger look awesome. Cheers, Rik Spector

[@CorporatePilotLife]

Thank you Rick!

[@ExtremeRecluse]

I have seen that valley while landing on a plateau with big mountains to the left and the small mountain almost on final approach. Not a good time for an electrical failure.

[@Shannonbarnesdr1]

I used to live in palm beach gardens, I loved it, I miss it, going back home to Florida in a couple years, vero beach,

[@xyzaero]

Well done

[@johncollier608]

Who could give this a thumbs down (17 at time of commenting). I'm glad you released this, watching how you managed the missed approach was fascinating. Very professional and clearly the right decision. Great video. Thanks Shaun.

[@danielhawley6817]

non-pilots expecting different, not understqnding IFR ops.

[@paullehr9236]

"Cumulus Granitus" clouds (or other variations of the "Granitus" type) are always to be avoided. Very good video. Thanks.

[@tomh6779]

Awesome content btw!

[@ronarnott1801]

Good job. Looking for the Grand Junction portion of the flight

[@rogerherbert1662]

Real world airmanship executed beautifully.

[@CorporatePilotLife]

Thank you!

[@anthonycarter7509]

great video.

[@robertschneider2189]

From now until May, things get iffy in that part of the world. Any number of times, I've been heading to Eagle and end up at Centennial. I would much rather be an alive coward than the lead story on the evening news.

[@CorporatePilotLife]

exactly

[@Airplane_Willy]

My aircraft was one of the last few out before that Challenger crash in Aspen back in 2014. We were holding for departure and it was just a clustefuck. I knew if we didn't get out soon they were going to shut it down. Just never thought that kind of a crash would happen. Always better to bail out than to push your luck and try to make something happen.

[@robertschneider2189]

@@Airplane_Willy I recall that crash, and that day. I was in Vail and it was one of those times I went to Denver and rented a car rather than fly.

[@skeptictruth9355]

@@CorporatePilotLife Without being specific, can you say what the faded out strips are on the either side of the instrument panel?

[@Excitable67]

Seemed pretty crazy!

[@jenniferwhitewolf3784]

All good IFR pilots have the "missed" procedure fully reviewed before the landing, and are ready for the get out and up procedure. As usual, you guys are real pro.

[@CorporatePilotLife]

Thank you!

[@avfan967]

Excellent!!

[@edlapinski341]

This reminds a trip to Mexico where the airport was surrounded by mountains and radio towers with a low cieling. It shout the approach and circle to land!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Samalyzer45]

A low-key, professional narrative of a life-threatening experience...

[@Repented008]

Quality's good enough.

[@kenbryant2570]

Sean. I think I noticed a crack in your windshield during a couple the camera angles. Great video.

[@coma13794]

Love these vids, but really missing out on the crm by only hearing your side of the intercom. I do a lot of single pilot ifr, would love to hear more two crew setups like this. The professionalism is awesome.

[@wesleyherczeg8683]

Just checking in to see if you guys are going to be posting any new videos

[@bretttelford5545]

I like the video, it’s interesting to see videos of flights that don’t go as planned. Out of curiosity, now that you have some time in the Hawker, do you prefer it or the Gulfstream?

[@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq]

Your left seater pilot had no watch on. A Capt without a watch is like a navy seal without a weapon.

[@seinfeld11123]

wow so scary complete IMC and a big climb out

[@Bench485]

Sean that strand of hair around 12 minutes.....poked me in the eye a couple of times...

[@BelowMinimums]

You should put a disclaimer page at the very beginning of the videos saying something like "Aircraft callsign in ATC communications has been removed for privacy sake of the aircraft owner" to help avoid people not knowing why the callsign isnt there

[@larrymayberry2312]

True professionals. You have to do what's right

[@bruschi8148]

Thats been KACK more often than not lately..Been super foggy there

[@davidd8892]

used to live in the town everyone is crossing in!

[@kurthunter2427]

Cool vid...and cliffhanger at the end. So did you go to Grand Junction? Love to see that one...

[@CorporatePilotLife]

You'll just have to wait and see! I'm just kidding...we did get to Grand Junction...

[@seatravel8536]

Great video. Sounded like everyone's alternate went to crap also.

[@blockvfive1196]

u mean KRAP, which is in north dakota

[@blockvfive1196]

rapid city regional i believe lol (krap)

[@uvupilot3233]

Wow that was intense...

[@KutWrite]

Shaun, maybe while editing you could paste in a prerecorded standard call sign like "CPL-1."

[@davidkitting6676]

And this is why there's such a rigorous mandatory maintenance schedule. The slightest 'malfunction' in this type of scenario... would tend to add a 'lifetimes' worth of experience. Good job. Good vid.

[@CorporatePilotLife]

Very true...thank you!

[@funkengruven7773]

Do the avionics in the Hawker (Collins is it?) not provide altitude/approach call-outs like some of the other systems or could we just not hear them? Awesome video. It's neat how tensions start increasing as soon as the approach is established into an airport which is below minimums. knobs get turned with a little more speed and determination, call outs are a bit quicker and tenser, and we get to watch...how fun. Thanks for posting this one...quality was just fine as you did most of the talking and all of the communicating anyway.

[@CorporatePilotLife]

This plane will call out "minimums", bit not the height above the minimums though. It will also call out the height above the ground from the radar altimeter for landing...

[@LifeStartCPR64669]

Sean... why would you NOT want to release this? This is a fantastic example of excellent CRM, great decisions and great flying. I’ve actually be waiting to see if you’d post a video with a missed. For some reason, I learn more about missed approaches each time I watch one, tho I have yet to perform my own. Clear Skies and Safe Landings Captain.

[@buckeyepilot3929]

Ball scratch in the left seat at 11:32

[@alancornell6385]

Being empty would make this event much less stressful. If there are customers on board, a crew may have to manage personalities and balance that along with their skills during inclement weather or other situations.

[@Dr.Tree13]

I hope I can try eagle someday this year or next year

[@willyt7241]

Another nice video. Doesn’t EGE have RVR? Or did it get edited out?

[@WandererLife85]

That moment when Sean is just like..."Yup, nope."

[@CorporatePilotLife]

Precisely...

[@yalladiego5606]

"Minimums" ...and all you could see was the "white" . Definetly not good. But really calm and professional go around procedure. I whish I could do it like that !

[@kylesummers4769]

West Palm, are you a crossed from the new Gulfstream/Jet Aviation hangar?

[@TheSomeDrill]

In life, sometimes you have to go around.

[@ernieblanchard8879]

Only once though...

[@Tom_YouTube_stole_my_handle]

How many times in a year would you expect to have to go missed and has it ever happened to you outside of the USA?

[@markfoster4458]

Wait until you have to do that in the Honeywell... hahaha!

[@CorporatePilotLife]

Right!!

[@jefferyschlicht5920]

Presidential 69 will always be the best call sign! Love your video's Sean!

[@jon-xq2lc]

Agreed.. the was cool name, But Sean content is better now without that guy in left seat, i think Sean said he hasn't spoke with since there last flight, shame, They seemed like buddies,

[@KutWrite]

Maybe he can superimpose another cool one like CPL-1. What say you, Shaun?

[@JimNortonsAlcoholism]

@@jon-xq2lc That's normal for past coworkers unless you're really close

[@nothing1421]

@@jon-xq2lc Buddies was never the impression I got.

[@Lee-in-oz]

Great episode Shaun, I'm glad you did post it. One question though. When you go missed, when do you inform the passengers? I understand that "aviate" comes before everything else, however the passengers are expecting a decent to land not the sound of the engines spooling up and the plane starting to climb.

[@CorporatePilotLife]

That's a great question. We had already discussed the possibility of this with the passengers well in advance, so they were prepared for it. After the missed approach, they cam up to the cockpit and we informed them of the next plan.

[@iahflyr4690]

@@CorporatePilotLife I had the same question. Guess you have no flight attendant on the Hawker so good communication with the pax ahead of time. Thanks for the excellent videos, keep em coming.

[@realitydrip3293]

Shaun, can you add a camera to just film the PFD and then in post, put that cam in a separate window? That would be awesome. 🙏🏼

[@CorporatePilotLife]

I've tried a few different ways to capture that, but the camera usually gets in the way of me seeing the PFD while flying. With the new camera having a zoom on it, perhaps I can try again with better results. Stand by on that one and I'll get back to you...

[@mccloysong]

The discipline of going missed the split second you hit minimums and see nothing has to override the temptation of dipping below to peek. I trained in Oxnard and Camarillo CA where it gets fogged in so I know the urge. Just don't. Like these guys.

[@CorporatePilotLife]

Very true. When you're in the mountains, and have seen the area on a clear day, that urge to dip below turns into "get me the heck up...now!!" really quick.

[@BlytheSorenson]

Welcome to flying in the mountain west, dropping into the front range frequently provide opportunities for serious flying!

[@JayM1646]

Whew this is the kinda flight that you get the big $$ for

[@cq7415]

Would be scary to me. Thanks.

[@corsapilotti1447]

Definitely an eye opener when minimums is called and no runway in sight. For the go around maybe I missed it, but does flaps have to be retracted for max climb rate ?

[@CorporatePilotLife]

We did retract them to Flap 15 setting. The PIC called it, but the lack of audio on his side made it hard to hear, and the handle was below the camera so you couldn't see my hand do it.

[@philanderson1200]

One mans chop is another mans turbulence

[@James-xg4jr]

do you guys brief the passengers for possible missed? seems like you knew ahead of time