Why Spider-Man 3 is My Favorite of the Trilogy

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@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123
@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123 4 жыл бұрын
What people tend to forget when saying 'that 3 minute dance scene was cringy' is that rami was TRYING for it to be cringy. he WANTED it to be awkward. by saying that, youre saying that the scene did its job.
@Misora7303
@Misora7303 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I was soooo socially awkard that I thought he was really cool.
@jokx4409
@jokx4409 3 жыл бұрын
Of course it was intentional. If there are people who think it wasn't, I don't know what to tell them. My problem is that just because it was meant to be that way doesn't mean I have to like it. I skip it because it's awful to watch.
@resikin
@resikin 3 жыл бұрын
@@Misora7303 All of us as kids thought he was cool, and he kind of is... in a way. Confidence is everything.
@ufg1510
@ufg1510 3 жыл бұрын
@@resikin not really thought...
@ufg1510
@ufg1510 3 жыл бұрын
so? it still cringy, is not like if people hate raimi for doing it.
@jimshotfirst4887
@jimshotfirst4887 3 жыл бұрын
The only real disagreement I have, ironically enough, isn't about spiderman 3. I think Alfred Molina did a FANTASTIC job playing Doc Ock, especially on the "father figure to Peter" front at the start.
@meunomeelucas8489
@meunomeelucas8489 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, but I feel like he is talking about him being less entertaining than some others like the Green Goblin or Emo Peter
@JohnSmithsu2006
@JohnSmithsu2006 2 жыл бұрын
This hits different now.
@DepravedCoTApologist
@DepravedCoTApologist 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmithsu2006 That small interaction gave me more serotonin in 10 seconds than I've experienced in 8 years
@cammyman32
@cammyman32 2 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@Luka1180
@Luka1180 2 жыл бұрын
100%. If anyone doesn't think this, blarg.
@ciaranpatrick6859
@ciaranpatrick6859 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of the movie is Peter tells Eddie Brock “you want forgiveness? Get religion” and the bastard actually prays to god in a church to kill Peter Parker. I fucking love that
@Rapscallion2871
@Rapscallion2871 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's not how Christianity works. It's like he never heard of Christ.
@helenaperez4343
@helenaperez4343 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rapscallion2871 hey now, give him a break, he’s only getting religion for the first time lol
@naman-mishra
@naman-mishra 2 жыл бұрын
oh my god this makes that scene 4000x better lmao
@belle8732
@belle8732 2 жыл бұрын
so hilariously literal i love it
@ApolloSniperman
@ApolloSniperman Жыл бұрын
I was literally talking about this with a coworker the other day
@franklinbadge1215
@franklinbadge1215 2 жыл бұрын
The motivations of Doc Ock and the Goblin aren't as flat as you think. They represent thematic opposites to Peter's development. SP1 is about 2 people using their newfound power for completely different reasons. Peter to help those in need, and Norman to get revenge. The Goblin is like a pure villanous force who believes that great power should be used to get what you want. He successfully convinces Norman about this, and unsuccessfully convinces Peter, who's conviction to his uncle's words remains strong. Octavius wanting to rebuild the sun machine doesn't seem to make a lot of sense on its face, but makes more sense when you realize that the AI in the arms have the sole purpose of successfully completing the experiment, and that they're in control of him for most of the movie. Before the accident, Otto tells Peter that intelligence is a gift to be used "for the good of mankind", which is sort of a rewording of "with great power". This moral is pushed to the wayside when the arms take control, and Peter, unable to handle the effect being spider man has on his personal life, starts to reject it too. He comes back around just in time to save the day, and Ock does too, but only when it's too late, so he has to sacrifice himself. These villains are better written than what you give them credit for.
@uteoryutoifyouwatchthedub389
@uteoryutoifyouwatchthedub389 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is highlight in far from home where Norman directly tells peter(Tom) that he may have power but he’s to weak to use it to get what he wants.
@cybernexus4233
@cybernexus4233 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a beautiful explanation I didnt watch the vids But i always thought the motivations werent strong enough U changed my perspective
@DrZuluGaming
@DrZuluGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that Octavius was griefing about his dead wife, making him more emotionally vulnerable to the arms controling him.
@khurtowen1993
@khurtowen1993 2 жыл бұрын
DocOck
@isaiahadams1996
@isaiahadams1996 2 жыл бұрын
Preach it!!
@xxRCxx13
@xxRCxx13 4 жыл бұрын
The black suit is absolutely beautiful
@thedude8457
@thedude8457 3 жыл бұрын
Venom's design in this movie was pretty cool
@CamJames
@CamJames 3 жыл бұрын
@@thedude8457 too small. besides that, absolutely
@mysticvipergaming1874
@mysticvipergaming1874 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@zacharyhaynes8969
@zacharyhaynes8969 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah even though it’s only in two dance scenes, that black suit he got is snazzy.
@Cybernaut551
@Cybernaut551 3 жыл бұрын
True though.
@moyluna1589
@moyluna1589 3 жыл бұрын
The funny thing about the Venom symbiote is that it's not naturally evil, it's just REALLY impressionable. So yeah when the film starts off with Peter getting a bit to egotistical the symbiote laches onto that and heightens it.
@garlicsalt317
@garlicsalt317 3 жыл бұрын
It's really impressionable and also drawn to dark in people And then there's Carnage-
@ghostfirerulez1449
@ghostfirerulez1449 3 жыл бұрын
@@garlicsalt317 he’s dead
@Chorse4941
@Chorse4941 3 жыл бұрын
@Ghostfire Rulez DK! Carnage is dead!
@D33pgr333n
@D33pgr333n 2 жыл бұрын
True but connors also said it increases aggression.
@moyluna1589
@moyluna1589 2 жыл бұрын
@@D33pgr333n Wich is why you need to work together with the symbiote. It isn't a suit of power armor like the Mark V suit, it's a living organism your bonding and learning with.
@overcooked2808
@overcooked2808 5 жыл бұрын
Schraffilas: *makes an entire video to describe why SpiderMan 3 is the “best” in the trilogy* Me: *i like black suit*
@ryatt9365
@ryatt9365 5 жыл бұрын
The black and silver went PERFECTLY with that suit design.
@itriedtochangemynamebutitd5019
@itriedtochangemynamebutitd5019 5 жыл бұрын
@@Max-mz5ls what about Big Black ****?
@couldbeme5561
@couldbeme5561 5 жыл бұрын
Big Chungus Suit?
@pakochanchan881
@pakochanchan881 5 жыл бұрын
That was a big reason while I loved Spiderman 3 as a kid too. Venom was cool as well, it's just the large body that was lacking in the design.
@bryant7542
@bryant7542 5 жыл бұрын
Back when I was 12 or some shit I was autistic for the black suit. Loved it.
@nabongobong9155
@nabongobong9155 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, Harry's amnesia was taken straight from the comics where the real Green Goblin aka Norman Osborn was the one who actually got amnesia. He regained his memory after watching a record of Spiderman fighting Green Goblin.
@anedsalhi9542
@anedsalhi9542 2 жыл бұрын
Fair but you can't tease hob goblin for two movies then make him lose memory. Then he gains his memory back just like that
@nabongobong9155
@nabongobong9155 2 жыл бұрын
@@anedsalhi9542 Agree. Its supposed to be a whole different arc, or whole different movie actually. They shouldve just let Harry go all Goblin the entire movie
@gota7738
@gota7738 Жыл бұрын
Harry also got amnesia after his first go as the Goblin. He's basically a normal guy for the next decade or two until his final Goblin round.
@LuiDaBoi
@LuiDaBoi Жыл бұрын
And after even Harry Gets amnesia
@arcanetraveller6304
@arcanetraveller6304 5 жыл бұрын
I'm convinced that in the scene when Harry disappears he just lays down in the seat when the truck passes. You can even see the guy sitting behind harry at the table look at him when the truck passes.
@fuzzydice1047
@fuzzydice1047 5 жыл бұрын
Dunkey? Is that you?
@arcanetraveller6304
@arcanetraveller6304 5 жыл бұрын
@@fuzzydice1047 nah I'm just an owl who writes and draws stupid shit on the internet.
@williamwebb580
@williamwebb580 5 жыл бұрын
Arcane the snowy owl Aren’t we all?
@tomtasticsvideos9512
@tomtasticsvideos9512 5 жыл бұрын
My mans is crawling around on the ground😂
@elpeluca7780
@elpeluca7780 5 жыл бұрын
Fr
@eddiegreencheez
@eddiegreencheez 4 жыл бұрын
I recently heard a good discussion on how the "emo" peter was not an accidental cringe fest. It was a cringe fist but entirely on purpose in the sense that to him that was the ideal perfect version of a cool person. No one else besides him thought it was cool but he doesn't understand that in the same way.
@sonnyfox60
@sonnyfox60 3 жыл бұрын
Ursula and ms Brandt both found it cool.
@egregoric
@egregoric 3 жыл бұрын
look at the dance scene, people were just staring at him like...”the fuck?”
@mattsell2361
@mattsell2361 3 жыл бұрын
It was supposed to be like a socially awkward nerd thought would be cool after he got an insane amount of confidence
@mr.iiconic
@mr.iiconic 3 жыл бұрын
@@sonnyfox60 honestly they wanted to sleep with him the whole time, they just realized he was more willing to do it in that form.
@AllWordsAreDust
@AllWordsAreDust 3 жыл бұрын
It was really obviously not accidental because in universe everyone finds it just weird. Tbh, my biggest problem with the Raimi films is that I find Tobey's Peter unintentionally creepy and unlikeable, but Bully Maguire plays up the awkward creep factor to create an entertaining bad guy.
@Harmonica821
@Harmonica821 5 жыл бұрын
I laugh a lot whenever I hear Toby Maguire trying to console Mary Jane and she says. *"This is not about you, it's about me."*
@mackielunkey2205
@mackielunkey2205 5 жыл бұрын
Perdedores de Derrotas it’s just as funny as “Now I have nothing left, except Spider-Man!”
@rager5600
@rager5600 5 жыл бұрын
@@mackielunkey2205 "When there's not much space left on your PS4 to download Red Dead Redemption so you start deleting games" -"I have nothing left, except Spider-Man"
@thegoat4238
@thegoat4238 5 жыл бұрын
@@rager5600 I feel that shit.I miss Arthur 🤷‍♂️
@likeaninja2893
@likeaninja2893 5 жыл бұрын
🍑👈🍆
@The_Stoned_Wanderer
@The_Stoned_Wanderer 5 жыл бұрын
@@rager5600 😂😂😂 underrated comment
@tanneryoungcg19
@tanneryoungcg19 2 жыл бұрын
Saying “weak” and “Alfred Molina” in the same sentence is a literal crime schaffrilis
@Rapscallion2871
@Rapscallion2871 Жыл бұрын
That's an oxymoron.
@shame2189
@shame2189 Жыл бұрын
​@@Rapscallion2871 Hey, don't call them a moron, they're just speaking their mind! 😂 (jk)
@pedroumanzor4017
@pedroumanzor4017 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@BeretBay
@BeretBay Жыл бұрын
🤝🏼
@amusedapple4933
@amusedapple4933 6 ай бұрын
@@Rapscallion2871yeah!! Well your an oxymoron 😂😂
@Roboshi2007
@Roboshi2007 5 жыл бұрын
Sam remi wasn't written into a corner by himself, he was written into a corner by the Studio. Sony wanted Venom, but Remi wanted to hold that off for another movie and focus on Harry and sandman (or the vulture), but Sony said "no you're putting Venom in now and maybe we'll talk about a 4th". This was before the MCU so anything beyond a trilogy was considered risky, and yet Sony wanted that easily marketable Venom merch in Stores. Remi hated this and resented Venom being in the movie to at least some degree. this is what the movie is cobbled together because it's 2 movies worth of plot in one.
@Young_Dab
@Young_Dab 5 жыл бұрын
Still a good movie. Where this bandwagon hate train come from?
@thecraigadile1494
@thecraigadile1494 5 жыл бұрын
Young Dab-A-Roosa I don’t think people are upset that it’s a bad movie. I think that they’re upset that it’s an okay movie. I adore it, but following up Spider-Man 2 which, barring Into the Spiderverse, is considered the best Spider-Man movie, it kind of falls flat.
@udaysingh-wr2kw
@udaysingh-wr2kw 5 жыл бұрын
@@thecraigadile1494 i think that spiderman 2 is highly overrated and is not that good, the mcu one is also great but not the one people were hoping for although spiderman far from home is better and is at no 2 on my list after spiderverse
@thecraigadile1494
@thecraigadile1494 5 жыл бұрын
uday singh I always find it hard to judge. Every S-M movie can change on my list depending on my mood, barring Spiderverse which is no.1, though I haven’t seen Far From Home yet.
@udaysingh-wr2kw
@udaysingh-wr2kw 5 жыл бұрын
@@thecraigadile1494 u will love it for its amazing visuals that I can gurantee rest I leave for you to decide.
@tylersfilmshack5604
@tylersfilmshack5604 5 жыл бұрын
“How’s the pie?” S O G O O D
@PIB2000
@PIB2000 4 жыл бұрын
*S O F R E A K I N G G O O D*
@I-speak-U-shut-it
@I-speak-U-shut-it 4 жыл бұрын
@@PIB2000 *I T ' S F I N G E R L I C K I N ' G O O D* 🐔
@joec7217
@joec7217 4 жыл бұрын
*N O B E L P R I Z E*
@Sin-pd4lw
@Sin-pd4lw 4 жыл бұрын
*A A A A O O O O O O G G A A A A*
@mavielor7394
@mavielor7394 4 жыл бұрын
Y O U G O T A N Y W I T H N U T S ?
@Scanny524
@Scanny524 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for crediting the Sandman birth scene That shit is beautiful, it genuinely stirs the feels
@anthonygerling6365
@anthonygerling6365 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. That's the one thing I really liked about this movie. It was the crown jewel of this beautiful disasterfuck
@davidhatcher7016
@davidhatcher7016 5 жыл бұрын
yep
@greggeverman5578
@greggeverman5578 4 жыл бұрын
It...completed me... :)
@bobconstructeur
@bobconstructeur 4 жыл бұрын
Emo Peter saves the Universe kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZSQi6uLpcZsftE
@nabongobong9155
@nabongobong9155 2 жыл бұрын
In the comics, Harry was more menacing and psychotic than Norman could ever be. He really strikes Peter at his heart, playing with his emotions while simultaneously torturing Peter both physically and mentally
@gota7738
@gota7738 Жыл бұрын
No not really, not at all. He's kind of a straight up tragic villain stuck between needing to be like his dad and not actually wanting to be like his dad, and so blames Spider-man for framing Norman and murdering him and Gwen. Like he's more subtle, in that he fucks with Peter by sending him ominous empty boxes and just flying around him cheerfully knowing Peter can't attack him out of his suit, but like Norman kills people a lot. Ok yes, there was the LMD parents plan which was kind of fucked up and honestly ruined the subtlety thing going on, but that's still tame compared to Norman doing the Clone Saga and killing Peter and MJ's baby.
@crustycrumpetkaiser6734
@crustycrumpetkaiser6734 Жыл бұрын
@@gota7738they sometimes do that or the thing he was talking about you’re talking about 2 different versions of Harry
@gota7738
@gota7738 Жыл бұрын
@@crustycrumpetkaiser6734Adaptations change him a lot but 616 is one continuity. When he has his tenure as the Goblin he does get psychological, though still played as a tragic villain since he's having his own breakdown there. However on Norman's return he does a lot lot lot worse and is a lot more sadistic. There are probably a couple of AU comics with a less sympathetic Harry but not major series. Ok fine there was the Kindred thing but that same story had him do it under the influence of Mephisto after Norman sold his soul so that can join Sins Past in one big "didn't happen" bin as far as I'm concerned.
@artcarpenter5297
@artcarpenter5297 5 жыл бұрын
My ringtone is Dane dehaan screaming you’re a fraud spider man and then flipping a table
@andrewj04
@andrewj04 5 жыл бұрын
where can i get this ringtone
@vukantic1978
@vukantic1978 5 жыл бұрын
I want that as a ringtone
@Chenso2099
@Chenso2099 5 жыл бұрын
How do people make these kinds of ringtones? I want one, mainly that of The Batman (2004) intro.
@logannottheonefrommarvel9917
@logannottheonefrommarvel9917 5 жыл бұрын
@@Chenso2099 holy shit that show was my favorite Batman Cartoon
@briehankbud
@briehankbud 5 жыл бұрын
How do you make custom ringtones?
@DannyGamerXD48
@DannyGamerXD48 5 жыл бұрын
*Sandman was the first one to not feel so good before Infinity War*
@pyrosnickenson2649
@pyrosnickenson2649 5 жыл бұрын
DannyGamerXD & Artist One of the originals, along with Voldemort
@reasyrandom
@reasyrandom 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Other Wybie. Please don't forget him...
@jaschabull2365
@jaschabull2365 5 жыл бұрын
Elmer Fudd beat him to it in Looney Tunes: Back In Action.
@curtisleblanc5897
@curtisleblanc5897 5 жыл бұрын
it is I N E V I T A B L E
@noahquijas1124
@noahquijas1124 4 жыл бұрын
7:15
@MrMitchbow
@MrMitchbow 4 жыл бұрын
Y’all act like you don’t randomly dance stupid like Peter when we’re alone. He just has the balls to do it where people can watch
@iniminimoshimo
@iniminimoshimo 3 жыл бұрын
I feel attacked
@gyrozeppeli00
@gyrozeppeli00 3 жыл бұрын
I randomly dance and sing in public all the time, and even though I get weird looks from people, i know deep down some of them wishes to be as careless as me at least once in life.
@TheBluePhoenix008
@TheBluePhoenix008 3 жыл бұрын
@@iniminimoshimo same
@TheBluePhoenix008
@TheBluePhoenix008 3 жыл бұрын
Mate you can't just murder us.
@FrenlyThanos
@FrenlyThanos 3 жыл бұрын
I almost got the cops called cause I did the joker dances irl
@maughtayo
@maughtayo 2 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 3 wasn't supposed to have Venom in it, and consequently Sandman. It was the studio who forced Sam Raimi to put Venom in the movie, and he had to adjust his script, which initially had Harry as the only villain. It is honestly impressive that the movie did not turn out far worse and still had good moments and a good arc for Peter's character
@SirMicahBroch
@SirMicahBroch 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it was originally Sandman and Harry
@Cob9-1
@Cob9-1 Жыл бұрын
thats Ironic because I feel harry was barely even a villian in the movie
@ΠαντελήςΑδριανόςΟικονόμου
@ΠαντελήςΑδριανόςΟικονόμου 8 ай бұрын
No Raimi actually chose Sandman as the main antagonist of this movie. As for Harry, he said that he would not follow his father's footsteps but be instead "somewhere between".
@bowserbreaker2515
@bowserbreaker2515 5 ай бұрын
I think Sandman should've just died. It would show how Peter's actions have consequences, and it would've made the film less overstuffed. It also wouldn't have a seen of Peter forgiving a murderer. Even though he didn't mean to shoot Uncle Ben, he was still a criminal.
@bnktendo5869
@bnktendo5869 3 жыл бұрын
The exaggerated swagger of a New York teen possessed by a symbiote alien turning him emo
@omni8568
@omni8568 3 жыл бұрын
Literally me
@kobizarre2003
@kobizarre2003 3 жыл бұрын
I mean he's an adult in 3, hell he's an adult in the first film
@mangaprofilepicture5820
@mangaprofilepicture5820 3 жыл бұрын
Exaggerated swagger of a black suit
@ChoaiDode
@ChoaiDode 3 жыл бұрын
tge only good review on the planet
@perfectlybalanced8995
@perfectlybalanced8995 3 жыл бұрын
@@kobizarre2003 well actually you could still be considered a Teen even as an Adult if you are 18 or 19. But Peter is 20 in this movie so I see your point, but then again we still have the mindset of a teen during those years
@orchetrance3230
@orchetrance3230 5 жыл бұрын
"So how's the movie?" "Sooo freaking good, argargarg!"
@normaljim
@normaljim 5 жыл бұрын
G o t a n y m o r e n u t s ?
@marioplushandfriends4070
@marioplushandfriends4070 4 жыл бұрын
Soo hows the movie so frickin bad
@ghostlycrab9879
@ghostlycrab9879 4 жыл бұрын
I love your pfp
@tylerharsch2054
@tylerharsch2054 4 жыл бұрын
Oh boy yeah
@Hmmm777
@Hmmm777 3 жыл бұрын
N O B E L P R I Z E
@henith7850
@henith7850 3 жыл бұрын
I actually looked up why mj was captured at the end of Spider-Man 3 and here is what I found. “ Kirsten Dunst only agreed to reprise her role in the third film on the condition that Mary Jane would not end up as the Damsel in Distress. Executives agreed. MJ was originally going to have a more proactive role in the film's climax (Gwen was going to be the damsel while MJ would be the one to talk Harry into helping and forgiving Peter; her lines from this scene remained in the trailer). When the plans changed, they made sure MJ was an Action Survivor during this particular distress as means of making it up to an upset Dunst. Throwing a cinderblock at Venom was thrown in, they let her jump and swing on hanging webs herself before needing to ultimately get saved, and any of MJ's screams during the scene (Peter's too, for that matter) were recycled audio. On the audio commentary, Raimi tells a rough story of coming to the process that in order to finish the movie on time, they had to put MJ in danger, which not only angered himself for reneging on his promise to Dunst before production started that he wouldn't, but that summoning the courage to tell her was one of the hardest things he's ever done in his long time in the business.”
@jayalcomendas4230
@jayalcomendas4230 3 жыл бұрын
I really felt bad to Sam Raimi. He shouldered all the hate of this film despite all his adjustment due to the force of studio. Specially for putting Venom into the film. Sony literally threw Sam Raimi's years of work. I'm rooting for him to nail the "Multiverse of Madness" film. The Novel somehow make this third installment not so bad.
@evanbobrowich1325
@evanbobrowich1325 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayalcomendas4230 this movie would of been prolly like great movie if Sony just shut the fuck up. I might be the only one but I’ve never actually liked venom as a Spider-Man villain. And the idea of it just being sandman and Harry as the villain in the movie would of been great.
@dr.penguin7934
@dr.penguin7934 2 жыл бұрын
@@evanbobrowich1325 As soon as Sony forced Raimi to add Venom to the script, the future of his trilogy had been already decided. He said yes, the film turned into a mess of pacing; the bad reviews caused the franchise to be rebooted. Had he said no, Spider-Man 3 probably wouldn't have happened and Sony would've... rebooted the franchise. And THIS is why working for a big corporation that owns IPs is usually a bad idea.
@possibly_ben
@possibly_ben 2 жыл бұрын
@@evanbobrowich1325 sorry, but would have*
@englishatheart
@englishatheart 2 жыл бұрын
@@evanbobrowich1325 Would've or would have. NOT "would of."
@comptoncompound7846
@comptoncompound7846 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, considering how many plot lines they were trying to juggle at once, it’s amazing that they still managed to make a somewhat coherent movie out of it all.
@danhelsting6308
@danhelsting6308 5 жыл бұрын
"This movie has many problems but emo Peter is not one of them." Wow. After hearing SO MANY jump on the this-movie-is-bad-because-of-the-dance-scene bandwagon it's so good to finally hear somebody say that. (Genuinely like spider man 3 and the whole "original" live action spider man 3 trilogy.)
@kylefrank638
@kylefrank638 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad people can laugh at these movies. I just can't seperate the enjoyable hokey-ness from the fact that this these movies were originally made to be taken kind of seriously. The fact that it was INTENDED to be our downtrodden, lovable Spider-Man that DOES make mistakes but is still good at heart just makes me sad... because they're just a straight-up joke. And they've aged like cheap cheese.
@Young_Dab
@Young_Dab 5 жыл бұрын
I find it absurdly difficult to believe that everyone dislikes or hate Spiderman 3 as much as they claim. To me it's just a bandwagon of people with no opinion of their own, what they do is read comments online and let someone else's comments become their own opinion. Because all their opinions are the same you would've thought they were copy & paste bots or something it's ridiculous. Spiderman 3 came out in 2007. Nobody other than Raimi in 2007 could've done better. It was a good movie.
@Gluzzer
@Gluzzer 5 жыл бұрын
Young Dab-A-Roosa no it wasn’t. Oh my head ban bang I lose memory.
@CielPhantomhive-qk3ee
@CielPhantomhive-qk3ee 5 жыл бұрын
Young Dab-A-Roosa To be quite honest, whenever I watch Spider-Man 3 I find the “Peter strutting down the street” and the “dance” scenes just too cringy to watch. Not because it’s not got a sense of “you could watch this ironically and love it because of the cringe” but because I find people with such a huge ego and bountiful self obsession absolutely and utterly repulsive. When I see Toby McGuire’s face in those scenes I just undoubtedly hate him. I hate him instantly because he’s become an inane narcissist. The one thing I hate the most in a person.
@Young_Dab
@Young_Dab 5 жыл бұрын
@@CielPhantomhive-qk3ee Dude it's just a movie chill... that scene is meant for comedic purposes, there's literally a million scenes in other movies with way worst cringe than Peter dancing down the street. I can never believe anything you people say about Spiderman 3 because all of your excuses for disliking it are petty. So you mean to tell me that if you see anyone randomly dancing in public minding their own business your gonna hate him and consider him a narcissist???? Lol boy oh boy smh...
@Mixedbag456
@Mixedbag456 4 жыл бұрын
I love how the back of the 2 disc DVD describes Harry as a "ninja snowboarder." I'm not joking. Look it up.
@damianothegamer8319
@damianothegamer8319 4 жыл бұрын
are u for real
@tanvvir8996
@tanvvir8996 4 жыл бұрын
Dude I had all of the the movies on disc. I would constantly bring them to school for show and tell (I was like 6-ish). Then some kid stole them
@Meowin100
@Meowin100 4 жыл бұрын
ik i have it 😭
@notBrocker
@notBrocker 4 жыл бұрын
Tanvvir oh I remember that... you want them back?
@davisginn1298
@davisginn1298 4 жыл бұрын
Brocker Is this ‘villain redemption arc’??????
@isaacgonzales5612
@isaacgonzales5612 3 жыл бұрын
Without Spider-Man 3 we wouldn’t have bully maguire
@Emobullymaguire
@Emobullymaguire 3 жыл бұрын
@Isabella Zemetres I agree
@TheShape45
@TheShape45 3 жыл бұрын
@@Emobullymaguire THE GOD HIMSELF
@leifalwayswins
@leifalwayswins 3 жыл бұрын
@Isabella Zemetres You want forgiveness? Get religion.
@mortalmatt2138
@mortalmatt2138 3 жыл бұрын
@Isabella Zemetres you should have thought of that earlier. Now Sony has killed Spiderman 4 in cold blood!
@TheBluePhoenix008
@TheBluePhoenix008 3 жыл бұрын
@@leifalwayswins no lol
@SherwaniSGCE
@SherwaniSGCE 3 жыл бұрын
Even at his lowest point, Raimi's Spider-Man still delivers.
@YourOldFriendAmnesia
@YourOldFriendAmnesia 6 ай бұрын
Pizza. He still delivers pizza.
@owainthomas2316
@owainthomas2316 3 жыл бұрын
The correct name for emo Peter is actually Bully Maguire
@mr.iiconic
@mr.iiconic 3 жыл бұрын
I personally always hated that name oof.
@owainthomas2316
@owainthomas2316 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.iiconic Bully Maguire or Emo Peter
@mr.iiconic
@mr.iiconic 3 жыл бұрын
@@owainthomas2316 Bully Maguire.
@nickblack1324
@nickblack1324 3 жыл бұрын
YTP Is a way of life.
@mangaprofilepicture5820
@mangaprofilepicture5820 3 жыл бұрын
Emo peter sounds way better than bully maguire imo
@TheSchaef47
@TheSchaef47 5 жыл бұрын
13:00 this is absolutely right. This is what a dork thinks cool dudes act like, and it's beautiful.
@Squaretable22
@Squaretable22 5 жыл бұрын
me
@bent2461
@bent2461 5 жыл бұрын
Way too relatable for me :(
@Jetsiuc
@Jetsiuc 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is, and mind you this is just my opinion, the symbiote shouldn't make you want to be cool. It should feed on and increase your darker feelings. Now, if Peter strutting in the street and being real cocky with women was a way of overcompensating because Mary Jane left him, that'd be better, since most of the other scenes of that montage could be seen as him giving into the symbiote's sway, but... Him being all goofy and giggly doesn't get that across and is really dumb, which culminates into the god awful dance on Mary Jane's workplace and adds to the mood whiplash when he confronts her and the church scene afterwards.
@raspberryjam3724
@raspberryjam3724 4 жыл бұрын
I fucking love that scene so much I don't understand why people hate it it's SO FUNNY
@danialyousaf6456
@danialyousaf6456 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jetsiuc you could say that him turning so cocky was the extent of his darker feelings. I know that needs can end up holding grudges against people but I don't think Peter would be that kind of person both cuz of him being a superhero and since he's following uncle Ben's advice.
@neveseos5423
@neveseos5423 5 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 1: Man vs. God Spider-Man 2: Man vs. Machine Spider-Man 3: Man vs. Itself That sounded a lot better in my head, I promise
@tornadochaser2457
@tornadochaser2457 5 жыл бұрын
Nabucodonosor Man vs. God is the only title I can't relate to the film.
@jokesterlego6108
@jokesterlego6108 5 жыл бұрын
More like Mann vs. Machine
@Sigma_Gamer862
@Sigma_Gamer862 5 жыл бұрын
William Dafoe is god
@tornadochaser2457
@tornadochaser2457 5 жыл бұрын
@@Sigma_Gamer862 I guess that works.
@ifrickedacrocodile5276
@ifrickedacrocodile5276 5 жыл бұрын
@@jokesterlego6108 is that a motherfuckin tF2 rEfEreNce
@hasankaiser4563
@hasankaiser4563 2 жыл бұрын
Spider-man 3 was actually a much more focused film than most films now. There's a proper focus on Peter's character arc and the theme of the movie is clear as day- Revenge.
@izzik2781
@izzik2781 Жыл бұрын
I thought the theme was forgiveness
@hasankaiser4563
@hasankaiser4563 Жыл бұрын
@@izzik2781 Revenge and forgiveness go hand in hand
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction Жыл бұрын
​​@@hasankaiser4563all the raimi's spidey films have character arcs and definitely the best themes when it comes to spiderman in live action... the 2nd is obviously Andrew although you can argue that Andrew is better as TASM1 is actually great with what it does like how Peters abandonment issues are because of his parents and therefore felt lonely and isn't until when he saved that kid and brought him back to his father that he himself had let go of with no choice thus realised that he was never alone as Aunt May and Uncle Ben were always there for him despite not being perfect at all... this video goes in way more detail so i heavily recommend that you should watch it "The Amazing Spider-Man was NEVER Bad" - kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYuThYqFishklbM
@pienoaji
@pienoaji 5 жыл бұрын
you tell Venom that he'll never eat lunch in this town again!!!
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 5 жыл бұрын
He already ate the Asian guy at the end of the movie. And Venom still can't get his chocolate bar afterwards.
@munch3767
@munch3767 5 жыл бұрын
But his Spider sense is tingling
@mix3k818
@mix3k818 5 жыл бұрын
Venom needs moar chocolate
@garretttheferret9693
@garretttheferret9693 5 жыл бұрын
@@mix3k818 No, he needs more screen time.
@NJay110
@NJay110 5 жыл бұрын
I beg of you to make a *MEGAMIND* review, please.
@iwieghobamien9582
@iwieghobamien9582 5 жыл бұрын
I second this request!!!!!!!!!!!
@lambbri
@lambbri 5 жыл бұрын
I third it!
@sheridanmacon5303
@sheridanmacon5303 5 жыл бұрын
As a Pit main and a Kid Icarus: Uprising stan, I fourth this request, and that makes it automatically correct and you know this Schaff!!
@steamres1880
@steamres1880 5 жыл бұрын
Sheridoodle I FIFTH THIS
@ignaciopizarro97
@ignaciopizarro97 5 жыл бұрын
I SIXTH THIS
@aaront6727
@aaront6727 5 жыл бұрын
“If Jameson were there, it probably wouldn’t be his tempo” Easily the best thing in this video
@PIB2000
@PIB2000 4 жыл бұрын
How could you say that to a video that has Tofu Grace as Vemon and Penis Parker doing some of the greatest and worst dance moves in cinematic history?
@Eddbrain
@Eddbrain 4 жыл бұрын
I lost it at that moment, that joke was just perfect 😂👍
@elliotlofton9970
@elliotlofton9970 2 жыл бұрын
Sam Raimi's movies are great to me BECAUSE they're not afraid to be dumb. Classic comics were dumb. Raimi was just embracing what a good superhero story was.
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction Жыл бұрын
they weren't just dumb though... even the objectively worst one... Raimi's writing and his team put a lot of effort into the theme of forgiveness in SM3... SM1 does a lot of great things with it but the 2nd one is where SM2 still is the greatest superhero movie to date
@donathan2933
@donathan2933 Жыл бұрын
@@godzillazfrictionwhen he means “dumb” he means silly and nonsensical. Not in a disrespectful manner
@godzillazfriction
@godzillazfriction Жыл бұрын
@@donathan2933 i think i got the meaning when i first saw his comment and I was 'just' mentioning that they weren't 'just' dumb
@sam1898
@sam1898 Жыл бұрын
thats why i like the Lego Batman movie, ino the best batman movie and the most true to his character, it was like the spider-verse of batman movies (in tone and loyalty to the media)
@poot743
@poot743 5 жыл бұрын
My aim in life is to be a tomato meter approved critic
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 5 жыл бұрын
Good luck with that. Rotten Tomatoes is already woke now. If you are a critic, then you should make some reviews in a realistic way.
@poot743
@poot743 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Friendship I’ve never seen anyone describe rotten tomatoes as woke
@tomfriendly2412
@tomfriendly2412 5 жыл бұрын
@@poot743 well, it is. They actually deleted bad reviews on Captain Marvel to force a better audience score on it.
@mix3k818
@mix3k818 5 жыл бұрын
I wanna be an apple-approved critic
@darickcastle5371
@darickcastle5371 5 жыл бұрын
LIFE GOALS
@NickNitro
@NickNitro 4 жыл бұрын
I'm something of a critic myself lol
@mushrooms5601
@mushrooms5601 4 жыл бұрын
How are you verified but have 2 likes?
@skydiamsteam6005
@skydiamsteam6005 4 жыл бұрын
Oof
@T_Dude
@T_Dude 4 жыл бұрын
What on earth is Nick Nitro doing here?!
@Beengus
@Beengus 3 жыл бұрын
The heck are you?
@velconx15
@velconx15 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the music man
@FloorTankMain
@FloorTankMain 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the Osborns are constantly getting amnesia in the comics but it was stupid contrivances that the writers kept writing themselves into, too lol
@MouldMadeMind
@MouldMadeMind 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair comic universes need constand resets to work.
@lschnitzer7770
@lschnitzer7770 3 жыл бұрын
It'd be more interesting if he only pretended to have amnesia to mess with Peter
@d4s0n282
@d4s0n282 3 жыл бұрын
@@MouldMadeMind annnd they reset spiderman lol
@AntiNihilist
@AntiNihilist Жыл бұрын
24:40 i feel like this isnt a coincidence at all. Thr symbiote was dormant because it didnt feel any hatred until Peter found out about how Uncle Ben died. I dont know how the Symbiote works in the comics but it felt like it grew stronger from hatred in this movie. Which is why it influenced Peter, but didnt turn him into a full on murder machine like with Eddie who was just pure hatred by that point. Unfortunately the movie had to be PG13 so Raime couldn't give him the crazy violent scenes he so desperately needed.
@baconsir1159
@baconsir1159 5 жыл бұрын
Damn, that climax would be a thousand times better if it was Jameson in distress
@ThatOneGuy0812
@ThatOneGuy0812 5 жыл бұрын
Bacon Sir you should’ve been a screenwriter
@ryanhowe6543
@ryanhowe6543 5 жыл бұрын
That would be SO funny! (Spiderman gets unmasked ) Jameson: Parker!? You're Spiderman!?😦
@Light-fi1mj
@Light-fi1mj 5 жыл бұрын
He’s the damsel in distress we need not deserve.
@latroletteeeee
@latroletteeeee 5 жыл бұрын
"Kirsten Dunst agreed to do the third film with the condition that Mary Jane did not serve as a damsel in distress in the third act. This was agreed upon by executives and Sam Raimi; originally the climax involved Eddie Brock kidnapping Gwen Stacy and holding her hostage, as he was sure that Peter was in love with Gwen. Mary Jane still played a big part in the climax with her most notable cut scene: Mary Jane went to Harry and made a passionate speech about forgiveness, prompting him to go and help Peter. This scene was filmed, and some of the dialogue can be heard in the trailers (”We’ve all done terrible things to each other, but we have to forgive each other. Or everything we ever were will mean nothing.”
@IceGoddessRukia
@IceGoddessRukia 5 жыл бұрын
@@ryanhowe6543 HappyExpress did a KZbin Poop where Peter tells Jameson that he's Spiderman and Jameson just laughs at him. It cracks me up every time.
@isaiahdowning6723
@isaiahdowning6723 5 жыл бұрын
"Some coarse, rough, irritating substance goes by..." *Anakin Skywalker PTSD Flashback, screaming in the distance*
@fr3e300
@fr3e300 5 жыл бұрын
*talks about a Spider-Man movie* *plays Wallace and gromit music*
@djgardawubz1278
@djgardawubz1278 5 жыл бұрын
bruh i loved, but was kinda scared of one of the movies
@fr3e300
@fr3e300 5 жыл бұрын
DJGardawubz 12 yeah
@zzdaweirdo1120
@zzdaweirdo1120 5 жыл бұрын
And crab rave. Edit: AND I JUST NOTICED MALO MART, HOW COULD I FORGET?
@egom8147
@egom8147 5 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking the same thing
@frauleinzuckerguss1906
@frauleinzuckerguss1906 5 жыл бұрын
And Luigi's Mansion
@alfie4234
@alfie4234 2 жыл бұрын
When the film first came out, Sam Rami was like “I guess you guys aren’t ready for that yet. But your kids are gonna love them.”
@YourOldFriendAmnesia
@YourOldFriendAmnesia 6 ай бұрын
Ha ha, back to the future, or as I call it, Rick and Marty.
@duckworth_lewis
@duckworth_lewis 2 ай бұрын
Summed it up
@jranimations5955
@jranimations5955 4 жыл бұрын
Did you know that Sony forced Rami to add more villains, he wanted this movie to be the best but Sony was like “Either put more villains or give us the movie to reboot.” Rami was so fed up he basically felt just finished with the movie.
@meunomeelucas8489
@meunomeelucas8489 3 жыл бұрын
That doesn't fix the final work. For example in FFH there was supposed to be a scene where Peter had to sell all his Star Wars merchandise to go on the trip to Europe. Does this scene existing changes how Peter doesn't has too much financial problems like in the comics in the final work? No, because it isn't in the final work. Something that happened or was supposed to happen can explain something, but what remains of it is what matters.
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 3 жыл бұрын
@@meunomeelucas8489 Nobody ever said it fixed the final work, he was just giving reasons for why the final work wasn’t good
@szabok1999
@szabok1999 3 жыл бұрын
@@IcyDiamond Exactly. Sony is to blame, not Raimi.
@kingsleycy3450
@kingsleycy3450 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't know why a lot of people treat Spider-man 3 as the director's uncompromised vision, when it is everything but.
@bryangolphin6169
@bryangolphin6169 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingsleycy3450 If he was forced to add things into the movie than it is compromised
@zepar9837
@zepar9837 5 жыл бұрын
All of the crazy jokes in the raimi films are 100% intentional.
@paulakroy2635
@paulakroy2635 5 жыл бұрын
Ash versus evil dead director
@uchihaedgelord5589
@uchihaedgelord5589 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but this has the fucking insanity on steroids and maximum overdrive. And it-is-glorious.
@maomekat2369
@maomekat2369 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Raimi is maestro
@Blackkey034
@Blackkey034 5 жыл бұрын
Thank u. I thot my idea was not gonna be heard
@anormalguy9320
@anormalguy9320 5 жыл бұрын
"My Spider-Sense is tickling... if you know what i'm talking about." *Insert Woody's laugh from Toy Story 1 here*
@l.pricetag.5207
@l.pricetag.5207 5 жыл бұрын
I still don’t understand what he was talking about. No, I’m serious, what did he mean? I don’t get it.
@likeaninja2893
@likeaninja2893 5 жыл бұрын
@@l.pricetag.5207 🍆👈🍑
@forsagebone
@forsagebone 5 жыл бұрын
@Daegos I can't unsee what I just imagined
@whalesharko4465
@whalesharko4465 5 жыл бұрын
BAH... HAHAHAHAHAHAH
@Tekeysix
@Tekeysix 5 жыл бұрын
@Daegos ahaha that's hot that's hot
@danieldevito6380
@danieldevito6380 2 жыл бұрын
Despite what critics and some people say, I love Spider Man 3, but Spider Man 2 was the best. Doc Ock was an awesome villain. Willem Dafoe was absolutely brilliant as well. J.K. Simmons was definitely the best thing to come out of the Raimi trilogy.
@lisamaryw
@lisamaryw 10 ай бұрын
Spider-Man 2 overrated
@Ibench315
@Ibench315 5 ай бұрын
2 was ass
@TheRibottoStudios
@TheRibottoStudios 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently explaining why Spider-Man 3 is the best of the Raimi Trilogy is super easy barely an inconvenience.
@erica8860
@erica8860 5 жыл бұрын
your comment is TIGHT!
@simonbrown2789
@simonbrown2789 5 жыл бұрын
Fair enough
@juicestains52
@juicestains52 5 жыл бұрын
Ace Coordinator Mary I understood that reference
@TheRibottoStudios
@TheRibottoStudios 5 жыл бұрын
@@juicestains52 understanding references is tight
@juicestains52
@juicestains52 5 жыл бұрын
Ace Coordinator Mary YehYehYeh
@bdtiger0770
@bdtiger0770 3 жыл бұрын
I also love the fact that Raimi's Spiderman trilogy resembles few characteristics of the Reeve's Superman trilogy. Superman 1/Spiderman 1: Hero's origin story Superman 2/Spiderman 2: Hero loosing power and get it back again! also being the best entrance of the trilogy Superman 3/Spiderman 3: Hero become evil and accidentally become hero we know again! Raimi did fantastic job updating these themes for 2000's in his Spiderman trilogy.
@rampagerslife
@rampagerslife 5 жыл бұрын
"ooo my spider sense is tingling- *-if you know what i mean"* literally my favourite quote ever now
@KahinAhmed72
@KahinAhmed72 5 жыл бұрын
Rampage Gaming WTF is that line supposed to mean? I watched the movie multiple times and I still don’t know what Venom meant.
@Hawkeye42nd
@Hawkeye42nd 5 жыл бұрын
Kahin Ahmed his penis
@TheFriendlyBola
@TheFriendlyBola 5 жыл бұрын
Are you like six?
@datalysjr3339
@datalysjr3339 5 жыл бұрын
Mr Hprv3 damn you should’ve kept it a secret that way the realization is funny as fuck 😂
@jaredpitts8014
@jaredpitts8014 2 жыл бұрын
The butler telling Harry that his father was killed by the glider makes sense because Norman’s last words were “Peter, don’t tell Harry.” So it makes sense people close to Harry kept this a secrete until it was absolutely necessary for him to understand what really happened.
@helenaperez4343
@helenaperez4343 2 жыл бұрын
But like. How would the Butler know that that’s what Norman said? Did Peter tell him? Were there cameras installed or something?? I like this idea conceptually, but it falls apart if you think about the implications.
@mottom2657
@mottom2657 Жыл бұрын
@@helenaperez4343 The butler saw Norman's wounds and understood what happened. A butler is not an idiot after all.
@ΠαντελήςΑδριανόςΟικονόμου
@ΠαντελήςΑδριανόςΟικονόμου Жыл бұрын
I agree and Harry was sure about it because he probably had deep inside him the memory in which Peter during the first fight said, "He tried to kill me but he killed himself."
@kevinnigins9488
@kevinnigins9488 Жыл бұрын
@@mottom2657 💀
@SEliteGuitarist99
@SEliteGuitarist99 Жыл бұрын
The butler was originally all in Harry's head in early scripts. A way for Harry to cope and act like he didn't know his father was a monster.
@crazygamerinc
@crazygamerinc 4 жыл бұрын
Spider-Verse: we don't really talk about this Schaffrillas: I do
@YourSincerestStranger
@YourSincerestStranger 4 жыл бұрын
Bu-but, they renamed the emo Peter Scene!
@basedrei3529
@basedrei3529 4 жыл бұрын
(Insert Tony Stark rolling his eyes in The Avengers)
@KenzieRetro
@KenzieRetro 4 жыл бұрын
cinemawins also said "i do" in his video
@puretoast5625
@puretoast5625 5 жыл бұрын
“It was at this moment that I realised that James Franco was actually hiding under the table.” - Dunkey
@franbarrientos
@franbarrientos 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@tatssutona
@tatssutona 5 жыл бұрын
When I was younger I used to think that he really disappeared. But I now realized that he hid under the table
@franbarrientos
@franbarrientos 5 жыл бұрын
@@tatssutona He does a Magic Trick
@tatssutona
@tatssutona 5 жыл бұрын
@@franbarrientos 😂
@franbarrientos
@franbarrientos 5 жыл бұрын
@@tatssutona I guess Harry also has powers
@purpql
@purpql 3 жыл бұрын
“Want forgiveness? Get religion.” *minutes later* At church
@nathaniaabigael
@nathaniaabigael 3 жыл бұрын
wanted God to kill peter parker○_○
@TheAverageOsakerLover
@TheAverageOsakerLover 2 жыл бұрын
He really did want forgiveness
@Thisisaperson5677
@Thisisaperson5677 2 жыл бұрын
He took it seriously
@Lucia-ct2sj
@Lucia-ct2sj 2 жыл бұрын
I watched for the first time this movie a week ago and I laughed so much when I saw that dude in the church like he actually followed peter's advise
@toongamer2810
@toongamer2810 2 жыл бұрын
And then you thought he was gonna ask for forgiveness right?
@Hannah4765
@Hannah4765 2 жыл бұрын
I had never actually watched the Raimi trilogy until LAST WEEK to prepare for No Way Home. And I had the best time watching Spider Man 3 out of the three. This is mainly because I loved commentating my SHEER ANGER about Bully Maguire at my fiancé, who had already seen the movies but wanted to see my reactions to the whole trilogy. Harry was amazing for the entire trilogy and Norman's Green Goblin is now one of my favourite villains of all time in any media. Jazz scene in SP3 was incredible and I threw a sofa cushion at the TV when Bully Maguire hit Mary Jane and I almost knocked over and destroyed my TV BUT IT WAS TOTALLY WORTH IT.
@emmamueller3921
@emmamueller3921 2 жыл бұрын
Omg I also watched EVERY spider man movie for the first time before nwh and spiderman 3 was undoubtedly the greatest
@princesssmileyface91
@princesssmileyface91 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Sam Raimi made us feel bad for CGI sand, easily makes him the best Spider-Man director ❤️❤️
@AqwDragulum
@AqwDragulum 3 жыл бұрын
that’s not the first time I felt bad for sand in a trilogy...
@yoshigamemaster6127
@yoshigamemaster6127 3 жыл бұрын
@@AqwDragulum “i dont like sand its rough course irritating and it gets everywhere”
@JLacay
@JLacay 2 жыл бұрын
It sucks that his character wasn't utilized well in the film :/
@mellamojeff458
@mellamojeff458 2 жыл бұрын
@@JLacay blame sony for that
@thegameplace3748
@thegameplace3748 2 жыл бұрын
Cough cough the director of Spider-Man into spider verse
@w33dn0se3
@w33dn0se3 3 жыл бұрын
Little detail about when Peter throws the bomb back at Harry: It's harkening back to the shot from SM1 where Goblin did the same to him. It kinda shows that the line between hero and villain is blurred at this point for Peter. Just a nice little nod I spotted
@Evets_03
@Evets_03 4 жыл бұрын
That distorted voice over for the butler was the funniest thing ever. “WHAT?!! HOW DID HARRY NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS?!! DID THEY NOT DO AN AUTOPSY?!!”😂so funny
@louminouz
@louminouz 4 жыл бұрын
aCtuallY siR, the bLadE thAt PEircEd yOur faThER cAmE fRom hiS gLideR
@aaronmueller1560
@aaronmueller1560 4 жыл бұрын
The line is doubly bad, as spider man could have easily have grabbed the glider and stabbed him with it. Just because the wounds came from something of his doesn’t mean he did it to himself. Maybe kinda like when Harry himself throws the grenade at Peter and Peter uses it to wound Harry.......
@arsyadyjoso3347
@arsyadyjoso3347 4 жыл бұрын
i think it's because harry doesn't knowing well his father was green goblin and the butler just try to hidden it from harry and tell the truth after harry found his father laboratorium.
@arsyadyjoso3347
@arsyadyjoso3347 4 жыл бұрын
And harry think peter stab his father. What make me feel bad about spiderman 3, its there's no scene where peter try to explain to harry about the truth about norman dies.
@conorandkanohi
@conorandkanohi 4 жыл бұрын
@@louminouz thank you, i genuinely couldnt understand what he was saying
@tenkizo1880
@tenkizo1880 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody realizes how much of a absolute gem this movie is I swear.
@cthellis
@cthellis 5 жыл бұрын
Emo Peter is the most Raimi Raimi that ever did Raimi. It is 200% the best.
@ollyravenhill7341
@ollyravenhill7341 5 жыл бұрын
The best quotable line from homecoming is Ned: “umm......... I’m looking at porn”
@randomt800kiddo2
@randomt800kiddo2 5 жыл бұрын
if you’re nothing without the quotes, then you shouldn’t have them
@realgamerhours1712
@realgamerhours1712 5 жыл бұрын
"I like bread"
@jackcouch8322
@jackcouch8322 5 жыл бұрын
“If you made it with black widow, would she eat you afterwards?” “It’ll be worth it.”
@charmandyorton006
@charmandyorton006 5 жыл бұрын
Good ol' Spider-Man.
@ausername5410
@ausername5410 5 жыл бұрын
jack couch ayyy! toon sandwich
@SupremeToafu
@SupremeToafu 5 жыл бұрын
god that Persona 5 joke had me in stitches. ...I've also been playing too much Persona 5 lately.
@icarusthorn9739
@icarusthorn9739 5 жыл бұрын
Never too much Persona 5. Until 2020, when a few people are playing persona 5 and everyone else is playing Persona 5 Royal
@mushroomsoup2866
@mushroomsoup2866 2 жыл бұрын
The best bit about Harry disappearing behind a bus is that the guy behind him actually looks round as if Harry just dropped to the floor. He's still looking in the same direction when the camera cuts back over to Pete. Anyone who says this film didnt know what its doing hasnt been paying enough attention
@pixelwanderer1962
@pixelwanderer1962 5 жыл бұрын
Title: "Why Spider-Man 3 is my favorite in the trilogy." Like to dislike ratio: "21k likes to 566 dislikes " *This does put a smile on my face!*
@mix3k818
@mix3k818 5 жыл бұрын
Why do the dislikes exist tho
@pixelwanderer1962
@pixelwanderer1962 5 жыл бұрын
@@mix3k818 For KZbin Rewind
@mix3k818
@mix3k818 5 жыл бұрын
@@pixelwanderer1962 Good point.
@Megablast668
@Megablast668 5 жыл бұрын
I love the Republic
@matthewheckman6218
@matthewheckman6218 5 жыл бұрын
yAeH, bUt I'tS nOt BaLaNcEd
@Mystigo1587
@Mystigo1587 3 жыл бұрын
People in 2007 didn’t understand the greatness of this cinematic masterpiece
@brandonspain12345
@brandonspain12345 3 жыл бұрын
Probably because they wanted something better like The Dark Knight.
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods4527
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods4527 3 жыл бұрын
I love spiderman 3, i only think venom was just bad.. But besides Venom, everything was good
@sergiosalazar8702
@sergiosalazar8702 3 жыл бұрын
@@brandonspain12345 Fax
@sergiosalazar8702
@sergiosalazar8702 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not that good, but you can enjoy it
@dekarmeryalmar8774
@dekarmeryalmar8774 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonspain12345 bruh
@Sad_Elf
@Sad_Elf 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Rami knew that this was gonna get shit on on release but people would genuinely love it years later, no one could film the emo dance or act in it without knowing 100% that it was a piss take, Rami knew perfectly what he was doing with this trilogy, it has genuinely amazing emotional moments particularity in 1 and 2 but then it goes full on dumb comic book shit, its like he applied the Evil Dead mentality to these films, except balancing horror with hilarity its genuine character with the absurd comic books shit, they have massive problems across all 3 at times, but still, they're still so much fun and pull off what they we're meant to
@mistermaxie6487
@mistermaxie6487 3 жыл бұрын
Raimi managed to leave something good amidst the corporatism and marketing from Sony, and I applaud him for it.
@MrAsh1100
@MrAsh1100 3 жыл бұрын
One reason I always love the Sam Raimi's trilogy. Other than nostalgia, they all just have something really special about them. The new series of films...... isn't that fun unfortunately and I could never get into them. Into the Spiderverse tho managed to somewhat capture that little bit of Raimi's style and I like that show a lot. Otherwise, I just can't remember much for the new films
@asimplepie2279
@asimplepie2279 2 жыл бұрын
Idc if the old movies were cringe (in a good way) nothing beats tobey, he’s just THE Spider-Man for me. But, I love them all.
@Ibench315
@Ibench315 5 ай бұрын
He’s the worst Spider-Man lmao
@asimplepie2279
@asimplepie2279 5 ай бұрын
@@Ibench315 wrong
@andrewm6244
@andrewm6244 5 жыл бұрын
Seeing the Title - Oh. So this person’s an idiot At the End - Yeah he kinda has a point
@jalapeno.biznaus5752
@jalapeno.biznaus5752 5 жыл бұрын
XD
@flatearthsteven4576
@flatearthsteven4576 5 жыл бұрын
U forgot that u commented this
@simonsdad6205
@simonsdad6205 5 жыл бұрын
I was your 1000th like my friend
@justanotherschmuck4149
@justanotherschmuck4149 5 жыл бұрын
No, no. He's got a point
@nathanthecollector429
@nathanthecollector429 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew M do I like or dislike? Help.
@heretic_engineer391
@heretic_engineer391 5 жыл бұрын
Hey dude; remember when you said you would do a Shrek 4 review?
@gamonstudios
@gamonstudios 5 жыл бұрын
Señor Knitler Pepperidge farm remembers
@jupiterzombies
@jupiterzombies 5 жыл бұрын
*yes please*
@esteemedcovenantshipmaster1985
@esteemedcovenantshipmaster1985 5 жыл бұрын
*Bruh, you should do a video essay about how the verminator from over the hedge was a better villain than white diamond*
@strider_hiryu850
@strider_hiryu850 5 жыл бұрын
esteemed covenant shipmaster he should do one on why the Verminator is better than the Terminator- actually, wait, scratch that. I wanted to make a bad pun, but no one beats Arny, except for Batman.
@TheBinaryProject59
@TheBinaryProject59 5 жыл бұрын
We shall grind them into dust, and continue our march to glorious salvation! -Rtas Vadum
@petercross1879
@petercross1879 5 жыл бұрын
White diamond sucked. They wanted us to feel bad...... for Hitler
@lucarioknightb7685
@lucarioknightb7685 5 жыл бұрын
One word fam; consistency. (White should have been the first Villian Steven had to actively choose to kill. Big moment)
@R083R7O
@R083R7O 5 жыл бұрын
Then it is an even fight
@HTS_Editor_Jack
@HTS_Editor_Jack 2 жыл бұрын
When you say that Dr. Octavius is a silly villain Me: I’m gonna put some dirt in your eye
@nedandtheneedlefishvevo575
@nedandtheneedlefishvevo575 4 жыл бұрын
The emo dance saves this film. It’s fantastic because of it.
@-Whodini-
@-Whodini- 4 жыл бұрын
😂😅😆
@bobconstructeur
@bobconstructeur 4 жыл бұрын
Emo Peter saves the Universe kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZSQi6uLpcZsftE
@Zeldafan1ify
@Zeldafan1ify 4 жыл бұрын
Emo tobey maguire saved this film. Anyone who disagrees can fight me
@alejandrofernandez1265
@alejandrofernandez1265 4 жыл бұрын
I am so grateful to be alive today. My girlfriend saved my life last night. This is a selfie I took in the emergency room after having a severe allergic reaction to almonds. I went into anaphylaxis, meaning my face, my lips, my eyes, my tongue, and my throat all started swelling up rapidly, making it almost impossible for me to breathe. I also had a rash all over my entire body, and I was extremely red. Staying alive had never felt more difficult. At one point, my nasal passage was completely blocked, and it was getting more and more difficult to breathe. They shot me up with Benadryl, steroids, they gave me a breathing tube, and even other stuff that I can’t even remember, and it caused all of the swelling and the rash to go away. Because this was a severe allergic reaction, I need to continue taking steroids and Benadryl for the next week, because it is possible that the allergic reactions could come back at any point over the next week. The steroids and Benadryl make me feel like a zombie, and I really want to take care of my health, so this will be my main focus over the next week. I want to thank my amazing girlfriend, who made the decision to take me to the emergency room the second I started feeling itchy. I was hesitant about going, because I didn’t even want to believe this was actually happening. If it weren’t for my girlfriend driving me to the emergency room only minutes after eating the almonds, there is a good chance that I wouldn’t have made it according to the doctor. This has been without a doubt the hardest few days of my life, but I also look at them as the most important few days of my life. These moments have reminded me about what’s really important in life, and it has made me so grateful to even be here on this earth. I will be prioritizing my health over the next week, and I’ll post updates about how I feel. Thank you all for being patient during these difficult times. This week has been NUTS (too soon for jokes? 😅)
@nedandtheneedlefishvevo575
@nedandtheneedlefishvevo575 4 жыл бұрын
@@alejandrofernandez1265 ok
@sebj3917
@sebj3917 5 жыл бұрын
Schaf : I kind of forgot Gwen Stacy was in any movie outside of Spider-verse Emma Stone : *Am I a joke to you ?*
@miqwerty
@miqwerty 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, yeah basically.
@garrettpolk3223
@garrettpolk3223 5 жыл бұрын
Bryce Dallas: am I a joke to you
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 5 жыл бұрын
A shame as Gwen and her chemistry with Peter was the best part of The Amazing Spider-Man movies.
@oscar2k755
@oscar2k755 5 жыл бұрын
@@garrettpolk3223 ew
@oscar2k755
@oscar2k755 5 жыл бұрын
@@themadtitan7603 yes
@nearansari
@nearansari 5 жыл бұрын
28:00 That was a totally awesome original phrase that I cannot remember ever hearing before! But I also may just have amnesia
@iamwhatitorture
@iamwhatitorture 5 жыл бұрын
Look in a William Dafoe mirror
@barnabusdoyle4930
@barnabusdoyle4930 2 жыл бұрын
Did you just compare the acting style of William Dafoe to the poor guy who played Venom in Spider-Man 3? Willam Dafoe is legendary. It’s like asking why your high school bully got floor when he took on Darth Vader. They are in 2 completely different leagues. I feel sorry for the next actor who will end up taking on the Green Goblin suit.
@carazy123_
@carazy123_ 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for someone to understand my Phineas & Ferb “Okay” reference for literally years Thank you
@TheBohobemeister
@TheBohobemeister 5 жыл бұрын
I do that, too. It's always good to meet fellow referencers.
@arthursdl
@arthursdl 5 жыл бұрын
To me, Spider Man 2 is a masterpiece, I really love how Raimi writes drama and watching a superhero believably struggle with poverty was so compelling, I truly think it was a good and solid movie.
@clairelili873
@clairelili873 4 жыл бұрын
not only with that, but with his own view of hero. okay, it was kinda strange that peter lost his powers, but he learns that he cant solve everything like he tries to do, and that is put perfectly with the sequence where he saves the little child. he did save her, but another person ended up dying in the fire, and he truly looks upset that he couldnt save the other person.
@trequor
@trequor 4 жыл бұрын
It's full of plot holes
@jojoisbad8429
@jojoisbad8429 4 жыл бұрын
Also the movie is goofy as fuck
@oscarwang7227
@oscarwang7227 4 жыл бұрын
Matpat gave a pretty good explanation for the loss of powers. But for the poverty one, he could have used his Spider-Man image to make money (public appearance) or just move back with aunt may and pool their money together.
@RemixedVoice
@RemixedVoice 4 жыл бұрын
I don't find spider man 2 drastically better than 1 or 3; in fact, I rate all 3 movies rather similarly. They're all great films. And I unironically think Spider-Man 2 is easily the cheesiest, most resembling the "2000s", in the Raimi trilogy.
@boredmusic4302
@boredmusic4302 4 жыл бұрын
“You’re a goblin Harry!” Gandalf.
@johngreen8921
@johngreen8921 4 жыл бұрын
“May the heart of the cards be with you.”-Nemo
@alumlovescake
@alumlovescake 4 жыл бұрын
@@johngreen8921 I don't think that's his name
@gentletal5101
@gentletal5101 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@OG.Trippster
@OG.Trippster 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure you mean Dumbledore, as you are basing this joke from the "Your a wizard Harry" from Harry Potter. And the wizard in it wasn't Gandalf , it was Dumbledore. Also it was Hagrad that originally said the quote in Harry Potter not Dumbledore.
@boredmusic4302
@boredmusic4302 3 жыл бұрын
@@OG.Trippster I said Gandalf on purpose to joke around. It was intentional
@MonsieurEldritch
@MonsieurEldritch 2 жыл бұрын
Because it’s a fucking masterpiece. Definitely the most entertaining and rewatchable superhero movie of all time
@wheezingjuice3900
@wheezingjuice3900 5 жыл бұрын
But spider verse did have *this is a pretty hard core origin story*
@camgoodkicks
@camgoodkicks 4 жыл бұрын
Spider-Verse the least quotable? To that I say, "Hey"
@sharik8728
@sharik8728 4 жыл бұрын
"Hey fellas"
@dookisescobar6957
@dookisescobar6957 4 жыл бұрын
All of spider noirs lines
@mrcrumbs9336
@mrcrumbs9336 4 жыл бұрын
“Not bad kid”
@TahtahmesDiary
@TahtahmesDiary 4 жыл бұрын
My family does "Hey" in the deep voice, "Kill that guy", "You gotta go home man", and pig "I frolick and I dance and I do this with my pants"/"Can you float thru the air when you smell a delicious pie?" And I think 2 more but can't remember right now on the spot lol
@j06films33
@j06films33 4 жыл бұрын
“I got a so so popsicle” “We don’t really talk about this” “Could you imagine a seahorse, seeing another seahorse. And makin it work” ?
@nickclark1815
@nickclark1815 5 жыл бұрын
I always thought emo Peter was hilarious and it's perfectly explained here, it's so ridiculous and over the top and I love it.
@metallicnole4514
@metallicnole4514 5 жыл бұрын
I've always thought tobey's performance in these movies were boring, but emo peter was the most engaging and interesting I've seen from tobey because it's so funny and different.
@hillefoozy
@hillefoozy 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the only reason the CGI look worse during the first aerial battle is because neither character is a full CG model, rather they're being added onto a green screen background as they are. I agree it looks janky, but it's still impressive to a degree.
@RosuVT
@RosuVT 4 жыл бұрын
Harry: SPIDEY KILLER MY PAPA! The buttler: aCtChUAlLy...
@tae1694
@tae1694 4 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@bobconstructeur
@bobconstructeur 4 жыл бұрын
Emo Peter saves the Universe kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZSQi6uLpcZsftE
@tylerellis4947
@tylerellis4947 4 жыл бұрын
to basically put this whole video into a sentence "It's good because it's bad."
@JackGiblenSinger
@JackGiblenSinger 4 жыл бұрын
RicoGuy and anyone who thinks this just doesn’t understand Raimi or his work. Just watch evil dead and you’ll understand everything.
@bobconstructeur
@bobconstructeur 4 жыл бұрын
Emo Peter saves the Universe kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZSQi6uLpcZsftE
@amity4600
@amity4600 4 жыл бұрын
spiderman 3 was ahead of its time
@Cybernaut551
@Cybernaut551 3 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 3 was basically the Demi-God inbetween the Two God-Tier movies.
@reecegallagher1822
@reecegallagher1822 5 жыл бұрын
Schaffrillas: Sorry if you clicked on the video thinking I was going to explain why this film is not ironically good Me: You're a fraud Schaffrillas!
@carlososoriohernandez3979
@carlososoriohernandez3979 Жыл бұрын
25:47 Funny thing is that Sam Raimi actually wanted Venom's birth to be the ending of the movie and have it as a cliffhanger for Spider-Man 4, but Sony and Topher Grace didn't like the idea
@BlueTomorrows
@BlueTomorrows 5 жыл бұрын
There better be a clip of Scott the Woz saying "Don't worry I'm going to the doctor to get my opinions fixed"
@kurtkrumm4999
@kurtkrumm4999 5 жыл бұрын
You were kinda right
@msmolly3581
@msmolly3581 5 жыл бұрын
I think The Amazing Spiderman Is Good
@bartman247cc2
@bartman247cc2 5 жыл бұрын
Scott the woz is the beat 6:18
@tlomofficial
@tlomofficial 5 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: I LOVE the designs of the Raimi villains, especially Green and New Goblins. I think they are a realistic version of their cartoon counterparts.
@JeithKarrett
@JeithKarrett 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on Harry but Green is just a power ranger. Not bad, it fits the movie, but I wouldn't argue that he's realistic (still funny doe).
@tlomofficial
@tlomofficial 5 жыл бұрын
@@JeithKarrett youre right about Green Goblin, I think it's pretty much the mask though that ruins it, there's some sort of metal wire that goes across the arms of the suit I would think are something cybernetic making his punches more powerful. And his glider it's awesome Harry's didn't have fucking rockets.
@rexsears3004
@rexsears3004 5 жыл бұрын
I actually think the problem isn't the mask, it's the rest of the suit. It's all the exact same color, same metallic sheen, same texturing, and it doesn't make any sense when compared to all the more realistic designs in those movies. I can buy that a mask aficionado like Norman would make such a weird helmet, but not that the military would actually fund a suit that looks so dumb.
@tlomofficial
@tlomofficial 5 жыл бұрын
@@rexsears3004 I kinda agree I don't find it that bad imo but I agree it could be colored better but most greens to me are ugly I'm talking about loving the design of it not really the color. And I have a fetish (not really) for metal armor akin to a knight but that's me.
@amoru1012
@amoru1012 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah,but i prefer the original animatronic Green Goblin
@LightbladeRiulo
@LightbladeRiulo 5 жыл бұрын
Well of course 3 is the best of the Trilogy! We got a dancing Emo Parker! Change my mind.
@munch3767
@munch3767 5 жыл бұрын
Solura and venoms Spider sense
@LightbladeRiulo
@LightbladeRiulo 5 жыл бұрын
If you know what I’m talking about
@ent1064
@ent1064 5 жыл бұрын
*P I Z Z A T I M E*
@LightbladeRiulo
@LightbladeRiulo 5 жыл бұрын
Ent you prove a really damn good point but it’s not as amazing as a dancing Emo Parker.
@Odinsday
@Odinsday 5 жыл бұрын
"Go get me some cookies with nuts in them." They first line of dialogue that comes into my head when I think of this movie.
@ghostofhinawa
@ghostofhinawa 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your idea of Harry working with another villain in this film. I can imagine that if he teamed up with Sandman, he’d offer him the money Flint needs to help his daughter if he works with him to take down Spider-Man. They could have balanced each other out really well.
@Brione30
@Brione30 5 жыл бұрын
Nice try, Schaffrillas. I hit my head so hard I got amnesia and forgot your quote, but then I looked in the mirror and saw William Defoe AND REMEMBERED YOUR RUSE!!!
@BabyKnukleDustr
@BabyKnukleDustr 5 жыл бұрын
*AVENGE ME*
@gooj6682
@gooj6682 5 жыл бұрын
Your dad is William Dafoe?!
@dianak8656
@dianak8656 5 жыл бұрын
@@gooj6682 he is William Defoe stupid. He said he looked in mirror
@maybe183
@maybe183 5 жыл бұрын
@@BabyKnukleDustr kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4HSeWpumrCknKc
@yamicorn8404
@yamicorn8404 5 жыл бұрын
I want an hour long analysis about Shiny and Tomatoa. I see him as a good villain but I don’t see how he’s a masterpiece so I’d like to see your reasoning behind it.
@bradleyjohnson1705
@bradleyjohnson1705 5 жыл бұрын
YES
@jokesterlego6108
@jokesterlego6108 5 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't this have more likes?
@louminouz
@louminouz 5 жыл бұрын
TheRadientYamicorn *how dare you deny the Tamatoa his throne*
@janostheduck4211
@janostheduck4211 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, so you don't get your memory back if you see Willem Dafoe in a mirror?
@Guyinthehat
@Guyinthehat 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't that how it normally works
@nataliecrayon6720
@nataliecrayon6720 3 жыл бұрын
At 13:42, I couldn't help but laugh historically at Shaffrillas's comment and interpretation of emo Peter's line he gives to the landlord's daughter. "Do it again, but this time, I WANT SOME NUTS!" 🤣😂🤣😋🤣😂
@LisaBalasaArt
@LisaBalasaArt 5 жыл бұрын
"I'm watching porn" is arguably one of the greatest lines from hoco, no lies here.
@mts9266
@mts9266 4 жыл бұрын
It isnt arguable it is the greatest quote from homecoming
@alexcisthunnery3729
@alexcisthunnery3729 4 жыл бұрын
It's cringey
@Th0tSlAyErIII
@Th0tSlAyErIII 5 жыл бұрын
The "dumb-ness" of the trilogy was always intentional. Raimi was a big comic book fan and wanted to recapture the sillynes of the early ones. That's one of the many things great about the original trilogy (yes, even 3. Easily the weakest but still not bad). PS: Spider Man 3 > Any of the Amazing Spider-Man movies.
@master106
@master106 5 жыл бұрын
Dislike for saying Amazing SpiderMan is bad. :(
@Th0tSlAyErIII
@Th0tSlAyErIII 5 жыл бұрын
@@master106 They're awful movies with bad written plot points and 1 dimensional characters. And let's not get started on how that's easily the worst Spidey. Bully Spidey is worst Spidey and he let people get killed by a truck just to crack some jokes. Priorities were not straightened out with that guy.
@master106
@master106 5 жыл бұрын
Super J-star All of that isn’t true.
@Th0tSlAyErIII
@Th0tSlAyErIII 5 жыл бұрын
@@master106 Prove ONE of those things wrong. Now I'm curious how someone can defend that garbage movie.
@master106
@master106 5 жыл бұрын
Super J-star They had well written plot points and well developed characters. And they are really fun to watch. Him letting people get killed by a truck never happened.
@oddity_vvitch
@oddity_vvitch 5 жыл бұрын
Me and my friend can unironically blast the Pizza Time Theme from the PS2 game at the most random times ever And we also quote the "Pizza Time"
@owenplays2059
@owenplays2059 5 жыл бұрын
U must only have one friend then
@oddity_vvitch
@oddity_vvitch 5 жыл бұрын
@@owenplays2059 Well you are not wrong my pal
@christopherauzenne5023
@christopherauzenne5023 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the problems you mentioned about harry and sandman where due to the executive interference of Sony/trying to force venom into it last minute which lead to a lot of their stories either being cut or forced to rework it. If raimi was allowed to make it his way I think their stories would have been handled better. Also, what you mentioned on the reworking of uncle bens death, I think it’s part of sandman’s character “I’m not a bad man I just have bad luck” . He’s a decent man that just has horrible luck or always ends up making a wrong decision so the idea of him messing things up and ending up killing a man works for me. Also he is no where as bad as the diamonds, he regretted the things he did & wished he could take them back while they went from not caring to boom, good guys
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