Intel's Arrow Lake CPUs are FASTER Than You Think - Don't Sleep On This!

Intel's Arrow Lake has arrived, and it's packing a punch. While initial reactions may have been tempered, there's more to this processor than meets the eye. We'll delve into the key specs, performance benchmarks, and the surprising value it offers. From its gaming prowess to its multi-core muscle, Arrow Lake is a contender you can't ignore. Join me as I explore the hidden gems and potential pitfalls of this exciting new release and discover why it might be the unexpected upgrade you've been waiting for.
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[@pf100andahalf]

I just don't trust Intel right now. It'll take at least 2 or 3 years before I'll consider them again and I'll reevaluate then.

[@matgaw123]

Why? Those new processors use tsmc for chips so it's all good 👍

[@matgaw123]

I know they kinda messed up but not trusting is maybe too much

[@Met1900]

Why no trust? They replace every defect cpu. I dont understand what people want! Maybe a new car payed by intel?

[@igorbalen3389]

Since my R75800x and AMD's terrible work with memory and disks that cost me almost 50% data loss on ssd disks, AMD CPU will never be in my computer again. Intel is an incomparably better choice for productivity.

[@matgaw123]

@@igorbalen3389 may I know what happens and what caused the loss because I'm running ryzen 3600 And does it affect normal person?

[@Greez1337]

After the Zen 5 debacle, i'm not throwing much wieght to techtube's general opinions. Gonna wait for what the tweakers find out.

[@Frozoken]

Honestly the fact that skymont got such a big ipc uplift and is clocked higher stock and has the same clock speed between the ultra 5 and 9 meaning it's not even binned tells me it'll probably be an iverclocking champ. I'd bet you could get it to 5ghz all core

[@Masaim6]

Most reviewers outside techtube also called Zen 5 disappointing. Hardware unboxed went to great lengths trying to match the performance AMD was seeing and the Zen 5% stayed till the end.

[@PronounsR4Pussys]

This is what every tech channel should be doing.

[@michaelkeudel8770]

Win 10 and Linux users saw a 26% increase in performance, Win 11 was and still is the problem. Your also only comparing gaming benchmarks, it's an X series cpu, they get performance gains in productivity apps, the X3D is designed for gaming because games benefit from more cache. Why do people keep missing that point?

[@defectiveclone8450]

The only CPU worth getting excited about this gen is the 9800X3D

[@J.king87]

for 5 % ?

[@RuanLFC]

​@@J.king87its not out yet where are you getting 5% from lol plus its likely going to use less power so more for less and less cost is a no brainer unless your retarded 😂

[@Met1900]

Not even that. Same as 7800x3d.

[@RuanLFC]

@@J.king87 5% of what ???

[@RuanLFC]

@@J.king87 ? 5% of what you think the 9800x3d is gonna be only 5% better than 7800x3d ?

[@techwandoUS]

I enjoy the out of the box thinking about thinking about this one, I feel like it's just been channels smashing on it so far. You are on the right path of optimism with the DDR5 speeds.

[@DannyzReviews]

Thanks man, ya just wanted to take it from a bit of a positive or different angle as opposed to sulking with disappointment.

[@SiliconSteak]

The tech and design of Arrow Lake sure is exciting, but man for desktop users it doesn’t offer much of anything we haven’t had before. I could see Arrow Lake being a overclocking beast, and who knows maybe that could save it

[@Frozoken]

The main thing it provides is more than 8 powerful cores at low latency. Ecores apparently have a ton of overclocking headroom as evidenced by the fact that the ultra 5 and 9 run at the same ecore frequency meaning they dont beed to bin them at all and with raptor like ipc if you could get them to 5ghz all core which sounds likely you have 24 powerful cores you can use in the foreground Not to mention unlike zen 5 the performance gains at least transfer to computer productivity workloads unlike them which only translates to the bs ai workloads for enterprises. Not to mention igou and io upgrades are pretty huge. First consimer gous with full dp2.1 bandwidth, the most cou pcie lanes, 2 cpu attached thunderbolt 4 port whichll be lower latency too etc

[@SiliconSteak]

@@Frozoken true it all sounds exciting until you realize it’s 0% gaming gain, 10% maybe 20% with oc multicore gain

[@Frozoken]

@SiliconSteak Eh it's more like 15-20% multicore gain and it seems to have way more oc headroom seeing the 14900k is literally just preoverclocked raotor lake

[@RuanLFC]

Yes but im sure if you OC it will be like zen 5 likely 10% at best OC but at a cost of 40% extra power making it back to what intel was trying to avoid a 149000k too hot

[@betag24cn]

nothing excitint on amd chiplets glued together using amd glue made on tsmc fabs

[@nichronos]

Yes you heard that right, the Arrow Lake cache clock is 38x while on Raptor Lake you go 50x

[@krhagene]

Isn't it a fabric tho, not a ring

[@Frozoken]

ring on raptor lake is 46 only thing that might be 50 is the 14900ks which isn't even stable stock because it clocked to nearly 6ghz ALL CORE. The 13600k-14900k however are all clicked at 4.5ghz or 4.6ghz on the ring, very consistent

[@FireBarrels]

​@@Frozoken My 13900K's ring is running at 53x with the e cores disabled, 5.8 all core 1.29v

[@killerrf]

@@Frozoken most are stable at 4.7-4.8 without any big increase in vcore under stability testing like ycruncher. 5.0 and up likely for most cpus require much more vcore and arent stable under heavy continuous loads.

[@Frozoken]

@killerrf Yeah I'm aware but ur acting like you can't overclock arrow lakes ring either

[@auritro3903]

Honey, wake up, DannyzReviews just uploaded

[@mikaelbiilmann6826]

I still use my i5-9600K. It runs my games fine. As you said: In no rush to upgrade.

[@BIG_HAMZ]

I see the thumbnail change..

[@DannyzReviews]

KZbin now allows creators to upload 3 thumbnails at the same time,, and it runs a test to see which one performs the best and changes it to dominant one. Thanks for watching.

[@BIG_HAMZ]

@@DannyzReviews oh cool, I like the one that has the 10,000 M/T ram speed on it. Good vid

[@mattirealm]

I have to agree with you man. I think though, that both Intel and AMD knew they would have to start really working on power efficiency because nodes are just not getting smaller as fast as they had been the last 15-20 years. We are on 3nm and some 4nm now and those nodes are good quality, but not way smaller than the 6nm and 7nm that had been normal since Zen launched 7 years ago. AMD and Intel are definitely prioritizing server customers at this time, but as you said, the 14th gen Intel chips and Zen 4 are quite GOOD at gaming right now. I hope Intel has solved: degradation issues, motherboard pressure mounting issues and are started in the right direction on power usage. Don't forget that they should have their HT replacement in the next 1-2 years; rentable units!

[@trastewere]

To me Arrow Lake looks like stepping stone of a generation. The different tiles and how Intel first presented the Foveros packaging with how quick and 'cheap' they can change any tile on the CPU is going to start to show it's strength in a few years. If Intel's 18A process node is finally going to be released and hopefully it is going to deliver they can leave TSMC and get back with their own fabrication process.

[@lost4356]

yes arrow lake is product to please their investor lol so they didn't go through 2024 and sells nothing hence only one gen for LGA 1851 and didn't want relies too much on TSMC after this they probably put most of resource for like of panther lake and 18a, also so many people didn't realize that TSMC is their bigger competitor right know not AMD because if intel use TSMC from the beginning I believe they easily gonna win against AMD but they not gonna do that. even with their funding problem U.S government not gonna make company like intel go bankrupt

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

core ultra is the only cpu capable of running dota at constant 360 fps, 14700 not quite, but fast too but this ultra almost certain running at 6ghz+ which add even more fps

[@pazitor]

I like the direction things are going for Intel now, as power use limits my gaming hours in energy-expensive Europe. Even its iGPUs are now at least usable.

[@bios9678]

Arrow lake at 9000mhz is going to perform the same as raptor lake at 8000mhz DDR5 because of the tile design. +15ns difference. Unless you spend an absurd amounts of money on binned CUDIMM for 10000mhz DDR5 it isn’t going to provide much of an uplift in gaming

[@neti_neti_]

This is a good move by Intel, they are going in right direction. I don't mind that the 285k is 5% slower in gaming compared to the 14900k, as we are not limited to just gaming, we do other productive things too. upgrading from 9900k to 285k will be sweet.

[@Ace-Brigade]

$50 less than the 9950x? You do know that they've quietly lowered those prices significantly right?

[@idunnomang]

I m o one of the biggest issues with Intel CPUs the last few gens was the Heat and power use requiring water cooling for upper end CPUs to run at full speed. All I care about is if it's an improvement from a 12700k on ddr4 and can be cooled with my noctua tower. Maybe the 12700k will be staying awhile it depends on upcoming reviews but it's hard to imagine not getting gains when going up 3 generations and moving to ddr5.

[@nempk1817]

Sure bud

[@jamegumb7298]

I would like back an Intel for some light video editing. I want to start with i3 or oops Ultra 3 now assuming it is not a previous gen refresh as rumoured but Meteor Lake refresh at the least as rumoured, small something so mini-ITX room for a 2 slot Battlemage card to test and try some things out. Ultra speed memory would help with this but I worry about the cost to be honest. I think I will order another modified HZmod XQ69 rom the ocal metalshop and have it ready.

[@Lone_GamerUK]

Problem is though, on top of chip cost you have ti invest in a whole new socket/motherboard. So the prices and perf plus this changed isn't that compelling especially when INtel refused to confirm the socket future! It maybe this socket is a 1 or 2 gen max only socket/board which undermines confidence.

[@ZackSNetwork]

Just sell the old CPU and motherboard is not a big deal. The ram can be re-used if you bought DDR5.

[@archmagus1510]

they really need a win...a good cpu with good thermals competetive prices and power is the key...

[@betag24cn]

they are not offerunt any of that, they are offering ame chipoets gluee together by tsmc, intel did not made these cpus that removed all the hyperthreads they said were necesary.

[@lost4356]

@@betag24cn they have 24 physical core so their kinda trying new stuff, AMD chip also made by TSMC almost all of consumer CPU made in last 2-3 year have TSMC involved in them.

[@gamingcomputers7485]

first of all hello and i hope it won't be disappointed i prefer to wait and see what it comes out of it instead of right away judge if its trash or not by if it turns out to be completely slower then if they priced at 600$ which im sure intel will try to do then its doa and this year will conclude as mid products launch at nothing more than a products that have launched at extrapolate amount of money and both had wasted potential especially in the gaming space that it is (and no im not expecting an x3d level of performance so before you say to me "oh but why do you expect its not an x3d level of performance" this has nothing to do with an x3d level of performance matching last gen x3d is not to expect an x3d level of performance uplift because an x3d level of performance expectation is way higher than that) so don't try to come in the comments and excuse because its not x3d so its fine that its not faster than last gen of cpus and the worst part is that it would lose many times to its older counterparts and that is already enough to make it an inferior product for me and if intel turns to be similar or worse than this will conclude it as both mid/inferior products of this generation.

[@darreno1450]

Once you start talking about overclocking and 'tuning' to match the competition, you're on the track to failure and possibly dead CPUs. This is why X3D will remain king.

[@bios9678]

$550.00 on ram along with $1000.00 motherboard just to beat x3d 😂 intel fanboys will still find a way to cope

[@pvdgucht]

One generation would be really fucked. I invested in this new platform despite no performance increase hopign that I would at least be able to upgrade next year for the next gen.

[@Pillokun]

Intel compared ArrowLake with 6400 ram to zen5 and 14900k with a bit slower ram, albeit with tighter timings. And ofcourse we will see much higher gaming perf if we run with 8000MT/s ram, just like it is today with any lga1700 cpu. But there is one but, the memory controller is on another tile, and that might be worse than if 14900k ran with 8000mt/s. But maybe they have improved the imc so the tiny latency penalty going from the compute tile to the soc tile might be mitigated a bit? my 12700k today with ddr5 is way faster than when I ran with ddr4, and with ddr5 at 7800mt/s it is another perf jump from 6000mt/s. What I dislike with arrowlake is that the e cores are still on the same ringbus, and not even that, they are placed in between a p-core which might as well increase latency because there is now bigger distances between each p-core. even though it is not the distance to the cores that really matter but the l3$ of that core. Itx never meant for memory oc? well they have always been better at memory oc, and infact they can get even less latency because of the shorter traces between the cpu socket and the dimm slots compared to the two dimm slot atx boards.

[@kazuviking]

6000 with tuned timings beats the 7800 on LGA1700 every time.

[@Pillokun]

@@kazuviking u run tighten on 7800 as well, u dont run xmp because they are loose.

[@Solrac-Siul]

considering that it will be using cudimms and they already said that 8000 is the sweet spot, it is almost sure than the ultra 5, ultra 7 and ultra 9 will manage 8000, with probably the ultra 7 reaching 9000 and the ultra 9 going above 9000.

[@kazuviking]

@@Pillokun tuned 6000 scores the exact same as the more expensive 7800 or 8000 tuned as well. There is no point wasting money on them.

[@Pillokun]

@@kazuviking 6000c30 are the same price as 7200c34, u might even get 7800/8000mt/s on the 6000c30 sticks if they are a-die so price is irrelevant. who is buying 8000mt/s ram when u can buy any a die and oc yourself. @Solrac-Siul I am thinking about maybe picking up an itx and and the highest end ultra 9 cpu, but I want first to see if it actually can achieve high mem clocks and if it actually results in higher perf. Would suck if it turned out to be like on am5 where 8000mt/s is slower in pretty much every game but final fantasy and another. my 7800x3d on my b650e master is just for show right now as I dont play any race sims now(bored) and in fps games my 12700k with the fast ram is just as fast and in some titles like in wz faster by 20+ fps. So hoping that there is no bottleneck like on the am5 platform.

[@mrlemondaddy]

I'll wait for the 9800x3d before deciding. It is hard to trust Intel due to the instability issues. Depending on the next moves of AMD, I might build a full AMD build because of Ngreedia prices.

[@PaulsTechSpace]

It was a motherboard problem that led to CPU instability, along with that arrow lake consumes nearly half the power of Raptor Lake.

[@ZackSNetwork]

The instability was the motherboards pushing tons of voltage into the 1st and 2nd CPU cores. An easy fix is to lock the cores.

[@johntipeti4597]

that's right! intel is a boss! always has been & will be again! fanboy here hahaha

[@betag24cn]

sad to see a fanboy claiming to be on top whem the cpu removed hyperthreads, uses now chiplets made by tsmc, open your eyes, intel is ready to be sold in pieces to qualcomm, nothing to celebrate here

[@Met1900]

A good all around CPU with good performance per watt. I want no more heaters in my room, gona buy the 265k. Best CPU for the buck if the price is like shown.

[@gstormcz]

Similar narrative to Ryzen 9000 release. Better efficiency is great, I hold your fingers to get hands on some of those get some nice OC results and fun.😉 I personally feel dissapointed. 🤷🏼‍♀️ (old guy used for cheap 2x single core upgrade in 2y cycle among budget 60-80USD cpus). Reason for dissapointment from. Arrow lake : Maybe hybrid architecture, no i3-10100f like offer. These look like follow up of those KS series, just more efficient OC stuff - at least for this moment. But my options are some : 5600x/12400f as absolutely cheapest sensible upgrade, 12600kf /7500f mid price or 5700x3d /7700 non X as "high end 8 core". 😂 Sorry I make wet ground for followers ROFL but that happens when you get cryosleep on i3-10100f for 4y believe its good performance on tuned W10🙈. .

[@samserious1337]

5:25 we have no idea at which PL the 14900K ran, so I wouldn't call it a win either.

[@kazuviking]

The stock 253W one as they said.

[@stepbruv8780]

Could be like Chiplet 1st gen for intel

[@gedeuchnixan3830]

I still can´t get around the fact: 430W stock, are you freaking kidding? Just because it´s better than the last doesn´t make it anything good for a consumer CPU, for those who are around long enough: that´s way more stock power draw than an outragously overclocked Core2Quad and as much as a freaking 4090! How is that justified for consumers? I wouldn´t say anything if this was a professional CPU like Threatripper or Server CPU like Epyc.

[@Patrick73787]

That's total system power, not the CPU alone.

[@killerrf]

10k ddr5 wont make a diff in gaming other then purely benchmarks. 6400 tuned to 8000 tuned there is not that much diff by the eye without the little counter in the corner telling you what fps is. It will be cool to see but will and need to be tuned to get most out of and 99% of gamers will only hit xmp and go.

[@silfrido1768]

10000CL66 🤣🤣🤣 is going to feel horrible

[@Frozoken]

Who knows they now have 24 very capable cores. The more cores you have and the stronger they are the more performance you need and the fact that the 16 little core bith got an enormous ipc uplift and are clocked moderately higher means theyre gonna need a ton more bandwidth

[@silfrido1768]

@@Frozoken bud sadly the latency will go up with it….

[@Frozoken]

@silfrido1768 Only a bit and you can just overclock the fabric to help that uts not 2d chaplets so the latency penalty isn't that bad. Not to mention there's no longer any latency penalty with the ecores so you can use them in the foreground too now in thread heavy games

[@killerrf]

@@Frozoken yea we have no idea yet on how imc controls will work but to get 10k i dont doubt that it will be gear4 but have to wait and see. If its gear 2 at 10k thats a big increase to their imc. Im betting its gear 4 to reach those speeds. The motherboard signal integrity is going to have to be very good also

[@TheShmrsh]

Why do you think 245k is not enough for games ? It should be faster than 14600k so i don't get your point

[@Frozoken]

I'd argue it's actually a better choice because for the games that exceed 6 cores you can always use the much stronger ecores that no longer have any latency penalty unlike the 14600k. It's raptor lake ipc remember and apparently has lots of oc headroom so at 5ghz you're getting a 12700k in pcores as your ecores

[@DannyzReviews]

never said it wasn't enough for games. However for a CPU with just 6 P-cores it's priced way too closely to the ULTRA 7s

[@TheShmrsh]

@@Frozoken why ecores are stronger than p cores ? I thought it was the opposite.

[@TheShmrsh]

@@DannyzReviews ah, we'll see how It will be priced in EU

[@Frozoken]

@TheShmrsh I didn't say thst I said it's very close. According to intel the p cores on arrowlake have +9% ipc over the pcores on raptor lake and the ecores have +2% ipc over the pcores on raptor lake so at the same frequency, the ecores are now stronger than last gen pcores. The gap closes even further now that pcore frequency has gone down from last gen while ecore frequency has gone up. At stock the 14600k had 1.3ghz higher P core frequency than its ecore, on the 245k its now only 400mhz difference in all core frequency

[@AaronGrady-e1o]

Seems like intel advertised it.

[@betag24cn]

intel is in the bottom, so probably yes.

[@Bass.Player]

Click bait. You have actually tested these CPU"s? I think not...

[@vipromeoyt]

I'm no more interested in intel bcz power usage 😮

[@lost4356]

For me this arrow lake is just way to pleasing Investor because ithey can't entice investor if they have nothing to sell/but Intel 2025 goal is 18A die that why LGA 1851 only support one gen they probably released refresh but clearly the didn't want relies on TSMC,almost all major chip company relies on TSMC, so their real competitor is TSMC not AMD like many people thought so if they can deliver new fabrication in 2025.

[@Masaim6]

Spoken like a true Intel fanboy, there's no way I'm buying Intel as my next cpu!

[@matgaw123]

Maybe if pricing is good you change your mind

[@matgaw123]

Both companies lied Intel as company fucked up But this generation can fix everything

[@Masaim6]

@@matgaw123 It isn't.

[@Masaim6]

@@matgaw123 My budget for a Cpu is $400 and the best Cpu for that price category will be the 800x3d of that generation.

[@matgaw123]

@@Masaim6 i watched a lot of reviews and they seem to be mix and maybe little positive heading and if cheaper than AMD for Same preformence possibly That's good

[@henson2k]

Boring performance from AMD/Intel. Wake me up in 2026

[@CRF250R1521]

Intel>AMD forever and always, theres a reason why pro esports players all use intel. All my AMD systems (2200G,2700,3700x,5900x and 5950x) have all had stability issues or bad motherboards or bad compatibility with RAM or need to update bios for it not to crash ect. ect. ect. I spent so much money trying to fix all my AMD systems and both my intel computers have NEVER had any issues and are snappier using windows too, on top of the faster FPS.

[@betag24cn]

imagine declare ibtel as better, when they had to use amd chiplets, made by tsmc because intel could not make those chiplets they removed all the hyperthreads after convincing the world that it was the future after untel is sold in pieces to qualcomm, no more intel

[@alzx]

the only reason to buy this is if you're somehow sure that nova lake will be on LGA1851

[@Shockabukuu]

again new motherboard? no tnx...

[@Ludak021]

More of the same...if not even worse.

[@EroBE14]

The fact that the prices remain the same here means that they will fail, no matter what. They're not even trying at this point.

[@johnlong6197]

Damn man my Toyota Corolla is sandbagging. Just need to tune the engine slap a turbo and it will be a beast - see how that argument does not make sense and if you doing anything out of spec you void the warranty. So core U 200 is doa fanboys Sry. But don’t blame intel it’s a company in real trouble they can’t afford to please fanboys investors are asking real world questions and they need to stabilize.

[@nossy232323]

Clickbait title. Only BS. How is worse for gaming "FASTER Than You Think"????

[@betag24cn]

lets see all extra threads from hyperthreading, something intel convinced everybody it was necesary was removed the price is the same, power consumption was reduced by 50% allegedly, from 400 watts to 250? bs they use now chiplets glued together, made by tsmc who knows well how to handle chipoets thanks to amd meanwhile intel offering to sell all to qualcomm they are at the botton, ready to be sold, i cant say i will miss intel.

[@janeadams1627]

Nobody cares about gaming, that’s not what computers are for. Just get an iPad for utorrent

[@betag24cn]

lmao all the youtube channels with the exception of thode that talk about nas or similar storage solutions will talk about games, desitop pcs will need the best cpu to push as many frames as possible, you want a different focus your attemt to troll is meaningless on these channels utorrent? who has time for that crap lmao

[@impuls60]

This cpu is trash, only 8 cores with no hyperthreading. Yeah lets buy a 1000 usd combo to save 20$ on the power bill. What a joke.

[@Frozoken]

Trash bcuz it doesn't have a feature that is barely useful in the real world yet is still ahead of both its predecessor and competition in synthetic workloads where hyperthreading shines by 15-20%???

[@silfrido1768]

Lmfaoooooo

[@silfrido1768]

@@Frozokenhe’s most likely a gamer just digress lol

[@a120068020]

You got to remember Intel designed Hyperthreading for the time, which always had trade offs vs having a 1:1: core to thread count. Not all tasks are suited to hyper-threading and the power consumption is generally higher. E cores are the kind of replacement for hyperthreading, leaving P cores for heavy tasks where you wouldn't want to be sharing a core anyway. This gen is an architectural change so I get the "only getting power efficiency" argument and indeed I won't replace my 14900k & 13900k for Arrow Lake because I am content with my electricity bill and won't see any gains. But they had to start somewhere - they couldn't go on running chips so hot/power hungry that they would litterally destroy themselves. What this does is set the architecture improvement and then it is refined in future generations. This isn't for people to change from 14900k / LGA1700 (unless its degraded), it is for new builds from people coming from far older systems/no system at all. 16th gen is where it will get interesting. Should they have done more on 15th gen before release? Maybe but Intel needs revenue, badly, so can't spend years releasing a new desktop/laptop range of CPUs if the competition is rolling out new product regularly.

[@Frozoken]

@a120068020 Also it has a lot of overclocking headroom where as the 14900k (and 14yh gen in general) was literally just about pushing raptor lake to its limits out the box. The main reason I'm interested in it is now I can use the ecires with everything now that they're so much faster and have no latency party anhmore. Thats my main issue with my 13600k. My pcores are maxed out in a game while my ecores are left doing little in the background but they're too slow to help with foreground tasks either