Mario Party's Dark Era

Everybody has one of those "Mario Party: The Top 100" eras in their life, don't worry about it.
Edited by Sam Essig and Scott Wozniak
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[@jerielc709]

my personal bad nintendo take is that mario party 9 is actually pretty good when it's 1am and none of your friends are conscious enough to fully get it

[@jurassicstaff8639]

Is that the vehicle one ? Where you all go on a road trip across the board? They should have made it a 3d side stroller and changed mechanics and it would have been a fan favorite

[@tonymitsu]

That game is a guilty pleasure of mine. Besides, the minigame design is arguably the best in the whole series

[@Gio-pb5rm]

A toddler can play mp9. Literally just push A

[@Chlocean]

​@@Gio-pb5rmespecially since we learned the dice results are determined before you even press A

[@cristiano4164]

No its bad

[@StubbyStuff]

The big thing about the modern Mario party games that many people fail to realize is that NDcube are former Hudson devs. The director of Mario party 6 is the same director of 9 and 10. It almost puts the modern Mario parties in a depressing light since it’s clear the devs wanted to make something different, but didn’t know how to properly evolve the series until they basically just put their hands up and brought back the old formula.

[@AmySay]

THAT is what gets me about it all. They’re the same devs!!! but they hit a creative wall!!!

[@lordmarshmal_0643]

Really provides an example of "if it ain't broke don't fix it"

[@wumpyjumps]

@@AmySay I always thought because of the company shift that the new devs just couldn't figure out how to make the games like they used to. Then I heard that NDcube is made up of mostly Hudson Soft devs and that made things confusing. Then I thought it might be a game director change, but it turns out the old and new directors don't line up with the company change. So I have no idea what the issue is. It might really be different goals based on reviews complaining about reptitiveness or whatever Nintendo wanted.

[@fairlyoddenginecreations]

Really now? I couldn't tell since MP6 was innovation done in the best way possible

[@j_c_93]

Yeah, but for all we know, they are getting pressured by Nintendo to heavily simplify the gameplay or something.

[@Bluelight5587-hh9iy]

Its amazing how Mario Party DS despite being on a underpowered handheld has more content than the Switch versions

[@m1ttyg]

Yeah, the DS versions are the ones that I have the most memories. DS Download play was too good for its time and Christmas with the cousins always ensured an enjoyable and hectic DS game sesh.

[@robezharvey8475]

Than^

[@Bluelight5587-hh9iy]

​@@robezharvey8475 thanks 😊

[@ZacBobisKing]

Shut up, Superstars is good game

[@leonro]

That is completely false. Mario Party DS has 5 boards and 73 minigames, whereas the Switch games also have 5 boards each, and Super has 84 minigames while Superstars has 100 (+some extra ones not on the board).

[@NathanielBarlam]

Mario Party 2's main draw is that characters get cute costumes unique to each stage and there's a nice sense of narrative on each board. I don't know why they didn't bring this back in later games

[@crazynaut223]

I think that's just to tie into the movie set theme that 2 was going for, the following Hudson games all their own unique themes that didn't make as much sense with board-specific costumes and a narrative. Costumes in general would be a nice feature to add, though.

[@ShadowDragon-cw7wb]

Each game has a theme 1 I have no clue 2 Stage play 3 Board game 4 generic party 5 Dream 6 Day/Night 7 World Trip 8 Carnival games DS Being small

[@j_c_93]

Mario Party 1 had narratives for the boards too, just not as emphasized. It's really cool how you can unlock new boards too and there's a bit of a narrator there as well. Mario Party 1 is one of my favorites for that reason.

[@kenshin6553]

@@ShadowDragon-cw7wb1 is more like an adventure

[@rhyano_]

That is not Mario Party 2's "main draw" 💀💀

[@lumenid4842]

Most staff from NDCube left in 2006, and the reason for the lack of Mario Party's for 5 years was likely because many Hudson Soft employees left the company and moved to NDCube, especially those who developed Mario Party. In that sense, the core staff behind Mario Party hasn't changed as much as it seems like, which should be something to note.

[@stinkystevesbiggestfan]

Kinda like Paper Mario

[@matthewdyck5503]

I was gonna come to comment this exact thing. NDcube is really just Hudson Soft lite

[@mrlionman5466]

Interesting, I never knew that! But that makes all their missteps with the more recent games even more sad and confusing. Like are they missing like the two people that really made the magic happen from the earlier titles?

[@miguelangelgonzalezramirez600]

⁠@@mrlionman5466I think is because they got infected by the Wii era, after lot of Wii Party simpleness and cheap soulless games and features (such as pressing a before starting the game, or just look and pick games ) infected Mario Party until Super Mario Party, (it doesn’t help that the director for console entries was the same for all this period) The same director persisted during the dark age of Mario Party and Superstars returned to the formula basically because the old director changed positions in the company and the new one for superstars simple understands what made Mario Party good and returned to the formula.

[@SuperGalaxy]

@@mrlionman5466 not really

[@Scribble2345]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1186">19:46</a> "All the boards go in a straight line" That's a circle, Scott.

[@MMOchAForPrez]

Hahaha you're not wrong

[@Crispeaks]

But Jerry Attricks hates circles.

[@MonkeysxMoo]

I'm getting flashbacks to Achievement Hunter's Minecraft Let's Play's where Jack says a similar thing and Ray corrects him the exact same way you did lol

[@dominicyeomans8107]

Your wrong, no curves 😊

[@mrbeaver6000]

Mario Party 8 had a board that was literally a straight line and it managed to be more interesting than any of 9's levels. Goomba's *Booty* Boardwalk

[@PScoopYT]

It's pretty clear Scott didn't know this, but despite the formal announcement of acquisition in 2012, Konami has been buying Hudson Soft's stocks for years and even makes a partnership agreement back in the early 2000s. So it was more like a long time coming that Konami would just buy and discard the Hudson Soft brand eventually. And it's not like the Mario Party staff at Hudson has a disagreement with Nintendo, if anything, quite the opposite! Around 2009-2010, many former Hudson Soft employees who worked on Mario Party leave the company, including former president Hidetoshi Endo, to join NDCube, which at the time hasn't made anything in years. Basically, Nintendo bought stocks in the company to become the majority shareholder and began restructuring to house former Hudson Soft staffs, most likely because people at Hudson saw the writing on the wall and ask Nintendo for help.

[@leonro]

Too bad we haven't seen anything similar with Alpha Dream, since Mario & Luigi has been missing in action ever since they went bankrupt.

[@scottschiff327]

If that was the case, then why did these former Hudson Soft devs abandon the traditional play they once worked on in Mario Party 9?

[@FunkyGhost37]

@@scottschiff327 Probably as Scott meantioned: it was shake up to the formula. Was it good? no. But the devs probably saw the complaints and reviews about how the last 5 games haven't really been that interesting so they decided "Okay lets shake it up then". Of course now we're back so something more "traditional".

[@JeskidoYT]

​@@leonrowait didn't they shut down during COVID?

[@leonro]

@@JeskidoYT They did shut down around that time, but we have yet to hear anything about a Mario & Luigi studio.

[@kayninedee]

Mario Party has always been dark. Mario is there. As long as he is there, there's no light

[@octoisgay]

so true

[@freakfoxvevo7915]

"There is no dark age of Mario Party. Matter of fact it's all dark"

[@CosmicTornado1]

Counterpoint: Wario

[@Mickey_Human]

Mama Mia

[@skyssleepy]

"We are the Super Mario" ahh comment 😭🙏

[@alfo2804]

All of the good Mario Party games run in <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="243">4:3</a>, whereas all of the bad ones run in <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="969">16:9</a>. Clearly the aspect ratio is what's causing them to be bad.

[@JeskidoYT]

Funny enough I think 8 has a hidden widescreen mode

[@alfo2804]

@@JeskidoYT Enormous if true.

[@mottdropsie]

But Superstars is 16:9

[@superstar64]

The Wii runs in 16:9, and Mario Party 8 is on the Wii.

[@mmp64son]

I remember playing Mario Party 8 and thinking "this is what THE FUTURE looks like." The graphics blew my mind.

[@mrpiccionedivino5598]

Did you skip the gamecube entirely because it looks worse than 5, 6 and 7

[@psychopat4402]

​@@mrpiccionedivino5598I found the gc fanboy LOL.

[@mrpiccionedivino5598]

@@psychopat4402 bro "MP8 doesn't look the best" is kinda the common opinion, it may had not be going the same graphical style as the gamecube games and has some fun designs but still the graphics are mediocre at best

[@psychopat4402]

@mrpiccionedivino5598 I never said mp8 had the best graphics..... you said mp8 looks worse than all the gc mps LMAO. Yeah OK bud.

[@mrpiccionedivino5598]

@@psychopat4402 you talked to me like i'm some elitist so i stated that MP8 having mediocre graphics is a common opinion, i want to know why mario party gamecube graphics > mario party 8 graphics astounds you so much

[@AKablalik]

You completely neglected to mention Island Tour’s Bowser Tower Mode. When I was a little kid, I’d spent god knows how many hours trying to beat all 30 floors, and I always got stuck at Dry Bowser. I would find out a few years later that if you beat the Bowser Bossfight on the top floor, Bowser would get right back up and kick you off the tower and you’d get to do it all over again, absolutely nothing for your troubles. Mario Party Island Tour is such a waste of your time, don’t even think of playing it, you’ll regret every second of it.

[@ZizZap4]

But it does have Choicest Voice.

[@AKablalik]

@@ZizZap4 that is like the only redeeming quality of that game, there was also mini games that took advantage of the 3DS‘s AR cards and those were kind of cool.

[@FrahdChikun]

Don't you unlock Bowser Jr. as a playable character tho?

[@AKablalik]

@@FrahdChikun Maybe, I don’t really remember whether or not you got anything for beating Bowser Tower.

[@psychie8625]

​@@AKablalikYou do get Bowser Jr as a playable character.

[@shinysilverstardust]

Say about Mario Party 9 what you want, but it has one of the best minigame selection in the entire series

[@drewmaster3455]

Definitely. The rock climbing one NEEDS TO RETURN 😭

[@BoxOfToasters]

Yeah, THE MINIGAMES ARE THE BEST PART OF MP9!

[@agentblackbird9435]

As someone who grew up with 9, absolutely. The minigame modes carry this game

[@danielnotdamast816]

The toad house one is so goated

[@munchrai6396]

If I can give Mario Party 10 any credit, I actually think it works better than 9. The Bowser board of this game, Chaos Castle, is a genuinely intense experience at times because you've gotta save all your low movement options for the final stretch lest you be burnt to a crisp and lose half your ministars. Genuinely the most fun I've had being stuck in a car with 4 other people

[@angijuan2364]

Hey! Mario party 9 has the best bosses, minigames and soundtrack!

[@ctpp64]

bowser party is genuinely an awesome idea that actually makes the car idea work. would love to see something like it again, just more developed

[@nathan_2009]

Mario Party 10 is the worst mario party in my honest opinion

[@hyperfairy7779]

​​@@ctpp64agreed, sure it was a little unbalanced, but this was the first time trying Asymmetric multiplayer on the boards themselves and so drastically different from the quick 1 V3 minigames, there were bound to be issues But because it was hated, we'll never see them try again and what bowser.partt could be if done right

[@dialga236]

scott will never talk about mario party: the top one hundred

[@dialga236]

no fucking way

[@Stock_Junction]

​@@dialga236 he will never *insert something* guys spits his cereal type shit lmfao

[@katwhiskers8]

no fucking way

[@ninesalive]

PFFTT

[@SwonC_]

fun fact: mario party includes mario

[@_JustynkaPL]

Oh wow! That's so cool!

[@blakeskit]

what about mario party e

[@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel]

This fact was, in fact, not fun; as it involved known war criminal and serial committee of goombacide Mario "Jumpman" Mario

[@sashalittledemon6766]

But I'm allergic to Mario!

[@Samsa739]

I love getting home from work, reading scott’s video titles and being like “what the hell,” and then enjoying the video with some dinner

[@jordanschmidt9772]

Nothing will surpass GameCube Mario Parties

[@gligarguy4010]

I guess you just had to be there for when the N64 ones were brand new.

[@user-zw3on4bx2t]

The GameCube MPs are SO overrated. 2, 8, DS, and Superstars for life, baby!!

[@Jackie_burnp]

​@@user-zw3on4bx2t 8 and Superstars I agree are one of the best but really? 2 and DS? I have never seen a game more overhyped than Mario Party 2. It's good, but not THAT good, the costumes are cute sure but what else is there? And DS, I grew up with it so I have a soft spot for it, but even for a Mario Party, DS is way too luck based. It's charming sure, but I wouldn't call it one of the best. Also I think Gamecube Mario Parties are still pretty underrated. Unless you're an avid Mario Party enjoyer, people don't seem to appreciate them as much. 4 is about as good as 2 I'd say, 5 is... bad, 6 is really really good, and 7 is the most cookie-cutter textbook "good Mario Party".

[@juanpablo.a]

3, 6 and DS are my personal favorites

[@jordanschmidt9772]

@@gligarguy4010I actually really don’t care for the N64 versions. I don’t think they aged well at all.

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

Mario Party DS was so damn good. I absolutely loved that download play was just straight the full game, you only needed one copy to play everything with 4 friends.

[@zeusdoesstuff]

What is not mentioned here is that NDCube had a staffing change in 2019, right after Super Mario Party was made. The president of NDcube is know the director of the Mario Party series from the pre NDcube days. I can only imagine when they were asked to make a new Mario Party, he wanted to see if the old style was still something people wanted. Superstars sold 12.31 Million units, so hopefully we see more of this type of mario party.

[@6HappyBoy4]

“You’re not supposed to take it seriouslu” ZoomZike didn’t get the memo

[@jasonreiffer11]

Hahahahaha great reference. Love the Identifying Luck series

[@PCEngineLives]

I would absolutely say that Mario Party DS actually *is* one of the best Mario Party games. I think it may legitimately have the most side content of any game in the series, plus both the minigames and boards are super solid. Honestly if there were even more good quality minigames, and bigger boards with more crazy events, I think it would've made a bigger splash. I think it definitely deserves more praise than it gets.

[@AniGamerNX]

I personally didn’t mind Mario Party 9. The minigames were pretty fun and the car concept was alright in it too. But the concept definitely didn’t need to return in Mario Party 10.

[@giovane2685]

totally agree

[@ble7330]

9 has better mini games than 8

[@Nerdtendo6366]

Hearing Scott talk about how weird the GameCube to early Wii era of Mario Party looks, been something that I’ve thought about for years

[@crystalcritique]

I would absolutely KILL to a see “The Dark Age of Mario Party” Scott The Woz video

[@ProfessorGains261]

Just like the possibility of my dad coming back home, it ain’t gonna happen

[@Porygon3-D]

You just did.

[@ZizZap4]

You just did.

[@Will-xv1vy]

@@Porygon3-Dno for Scott THE WOZ

[@590488]

You're watching it

[@vegetashairline3060]

I know that Super Mario Party isn't the best, but it will always have a special place in my heart, because it was the first thing my wife and mother ever bonded over, after a decade of them not really getting along. My mother never liked her but, honestly she never liked any of the women I dated, Im her only child, and one of few constants in her life. And my wife has issues with her for valid reasons, one being that mother has never been open to her fully. But one day my wife brought her Nintendo switch and set up super Mario party. My mom who hadnt played a video game since pacman first came out, somehow found herself playing too. And it was during a storm that shut things down for a weekend, and they just played all weekend. Ever since then, they have gotten along consistently well for around 4 years, since it happened during the start of the c vid.

[@turboshazed7370]

Star Rush is like Super Mario Party somewhat. You might like that one!

[@ThisIsCSDX]

I remember back when PB & Jeff was a thing with Peanutbuttergamer and SpaceHamster before Jeff moved to streaming and Austin to streaming while still maintaining two other channels, and Peebs was so excited about The Top 100 cause he wanted a minigame compilation like that. It hurt to see him so disappointed about how it ended up being, and I think he referred to it as Nintendo's yearly stinker or something like that. It's weird that I can remember something like that but if you told me which Christmas did my cousin get the closest to beating Sonic 3D Blast in one sitting when he tried to make it a tradition, you got me there.

[@RoyalGumball]

Holy s**t, someone talking about PB and Jeff do those were the days

[@RoxyChown]

Fuck yes PB and Jeff. I still rewatch their let's plays sometimes.

[@TheRealGamingChad]

I miss PB and Jeff 🥲

[@foolboyv5]

I really enjoy Mario Party Superstars but I still think there's room for improvement, mainly the amount of coins the game throws at you, the lucky spaces shower you with too many coins and there's too many lucky spaces on the boards, this in turn makes there less blue spaces on the boards which makes it more likely you get a hidden block with even more coins in it. The item variety isn't super great either and because golden pipes are easy to get and coins are aplenty, the end game of a lot of boards can just be golden pipe spam. I still really enjoy it though, the board design just needs some work (in terms of spaces), NDcube always seem to want the spaces to do something, having an uneventful turn makes the eventful turns all the sweeter.

[@Beenman2210]

I agree, way too many lucky spaces. Not as bad as super Mario party with the economy but it still feels like everyone always has way too many coins. Also the orb system is superior to the item system.

[@Oantis]

Dang i remember back when i had Mario Party 9, i remember being so excited to try it out, already at the time played 2 and 3 and completed DS with the whole museum and then this new mechanic with the car was so interesting, the fact that they included a story mode, the music for the boards and the minigames not to mention that you can defeat bosses multiplayer (which remind me so much of me trying to beat the ass off the Mario Party DS ones 😂) was so freshing and so the backtrack with the Mario Party Points to expend for more content in game. I understand people didn't like so much the change from the traditional style that used 8 or DS. And then 10 came out... And.... Oh boi.... No story mode, removed shy guy and kamek when they could be along with toadette and spike, bowser jr minigames was removed entirely... 2 vs 2 minigames came back which i think it was the only good thing they did... And Bowser Party... Gosh i can't describe sometimes how disadvantage this game mode is for some of the players in car, especially at the castle stage.... The minigames are fun tho... The donuts one should have make it to Superstars 🍩 (instead of pointing you should press the button of which shy guy has the more ones) And Love how Scott despises it so much 😂

[@paulaparedix5078]

Still waiting for a Mario Party with a Huge Roster of characters (kinda what Super Mario Party did)... And the return of Tumble

[@TheRealJoshie]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="926">15:26</a> Well, Monegi, who was the actual developer of the Mario Party, which was actually a joint venture between Nintendo and Hudson Soft and was based in the latter company, disbanded not too long after Mario Party DS' release. Many of the staff that worked there went on to work at ND Cube, which, i assume, was when Wii Party started being developed on. With that game selling really well, I think Nintendo decided to entrust them with the Mario Party series.

[@mrlionman5466]

Thank God for Mario Party 3! I could finally cry about my inner most feelings AND play Mario Party 3 instead of just crying! Saved my childhood

[@CandGoods]

Is there anything sadder than playing a Mario Party single-player? Hehehe, yeah, that was me as a kid. Owned the original Mario Party on N64, never had anyone else to play it with.

[@crowkid5553]

been there too

[@VonFirflirch]

I did, too. I remember thinking poorly of Mario Party DS since the AI would never get the idea to buy multiple items at once, namely the "Get a Star at will" one, and thus was very easy to beat. I'm glad this is the knowledge I still have instead of actually useful stuff. I liked that one line in the Mario Party episode on the main channel, "It's like drinking alone" x)

[@beastvicious8672]

Never understood why people say you have to play with other people in Mario Party. I've played several games with other people and it's great but i've also played Mario Party by myself and had a great time as well. I prefer playing with others but it's great on it's own too, i never found it boring. Some Mario Party games also have a single-player mode, which i always liked completing. Wish Superstars had something like that too.

[@Zippy_Zolton]

DS is my favourite in the series

[@shawnsoap]

It’s the only one I’d choose to play 😭

[@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel]

It's the only one I have ever played, and I had good fun with it. Never played multiplayer, but I did play the hell outta the story mode. It's great, kept playing it for a long while once I got a 3DS. Played it almost as much as steel divers, the best 3DS game.

[@TinyGuy97]

MP6 is my favorite.

[@fredpayne7748]

Mario Party 7 gave me so many memories. Even though it's considered worse than 5 or 6, I grew up with 7, didn't have the microphone attachment, and didn't care.

[@turboshazed7370]

I think it's better than 5.

[@beastvicious8672]

7 is the best one imo. Idk why so many complain about it. I see it as the last great MP game, which reached the peak of the franchise. The boards are my favorite out of all of them and the orbs were also the best in the series. Had a great roster too. The Mic minigames were also optional. You didn't have to use it if you didn't want to, would just use the R/menu botton to pick your options.

[@tripodranger7873]

I think what happened with Mario Party is that Hudson Soft caught lightning in a bottle with the initial formula. If you play, say, Sonic Shuffle, it has a lot of problems that makes it not nearly as good as their Mario Party games. And then, when they tried to do something new with Mario Party (it's my understanding that NDSoft is made up of a lot of former Hudson Soft staff), it wasn't very good, either. It feels like, by complete chance, Hudson got party games right the very first time, and the devs just can't figure out how to replicate that success with something new, no matter how many times they try (unless Disney's Party is some masterpiece of a game that's flown under my radar).

[@doktormerlin]

Mario Party DS is genuinely one of my favorite childhood games. And thats because of the single player, one of the best DS memories I have.

[@andrewosborne7544]

MP 8 is my personal favorite and I know a bunch of people that do to. The tycoon town, the pirate beach, the train so many good maps

[@aortaplatinum]

"Camelot started out making Hot Shots Golf for PS1" I will not stand for Shining Force erasure

[@Debloko666]

I will defend Star Rush. It is actually quite fun. I just wished it had more board theme variety and for a Mario Party that relies on Boss Battle minigames, it has so few of them. Around 10 I believe, so you will see repeats too often. It should at least have 20. But the gameplay was nice, and I also liked the extra modes.

[@tvoltage]

The story mode in Mario Party Advance sets it apart from all the others in a good way. It works. It's a rougelike with fun characters

[@kkosmosL7]

Mario Party Advance is honestly pretty cool if you think of it as a standalone title that acts as more of an adaptation of Mario Party concepts as opposed to an actual entry

[@tyzilla358]

I was looking for a video like this from you yesterday. What a huge coincidence. I got the first game when it came out, and my grandmother and I would stay up until 2-4 in the morning playing it (and Mario Kart, etc) I was looking for a video like this to decide whether I should finally get Mario Party Superstars. I said f**k it and pulled the trigger as soon as I found out how nostalgic it could be considering they had mini games and boards from the first game. Gonna see if my grandmother is still down to game. Lol Her husband (my grandfather) just passed away after suffering from alzheimers and cancer.....so I'm hoping it will help cheer her and I up and be a good time. Anyways. Thanks for the video.

[@donovan802]

Some of my bias for 8 comes from the fact it was the first Mario Party game I played, and while I still really loved what they offered, one - building off what Scott critiqued about it, I looked at the GameCube entries and saw them a bit more favorable in terms of visuals (most GameCube games look better than Wii games) and two - 8 was the only GOOD Wii entry in the franchise to where it might as well be considered the only Wii entry, period.

[@FunkyGhost37]

The online mode update in Super was particularly hilarious, because Superstar was announced right after....with online. And not just online, but true online matchmaking, not restricted to Friends.

[@Mookie908]

Yea. Nintendo once again scamming/losing consumers

[@eliasfalcon721]

Scott, I literally just ran out of Scott the woz content. Thank you for uploading more for my binge watching

[@coneissboi3454]

Why does this channel keep getting closer and closer to the main channel content wise. I mean this video could have EASILY been passed as a normal ScottTheWoz video if you couldn’t see the channel’s icon.

[@tyfoon555]

Hopefully people don't find it to be a bad thing. It's nice to have a fun ramble, a few jokes, and keep things a bit more chill

[@Just_Jasen]

Might be that way on purpose since Scott is letting some his friends edit the videos for this channel. Get as close as possible with a low stakes Scott Stash video before moving onto helping with a main channel video

[@BoldBrandFlakes]

I like the main channel but I honestly prefer Scott’s Stash over it. The quality is still great and it’s interesting to me just hearing Scott’s full rambling and long video length consistently.

[@Topunito]

I disagree. The quality's getting close but the style's still very different.

[@jobot0114]

I feel like the main problem with Mario party 9 and 10 is that the concept for them would have been perfectly fine as a side mode for a Mario Party game, like the battle mode in Mario Party 5.... not _as_ the Mario Party game.

[@tyfoon555]

I absolutely adore this genre of Scott videos

[@Jumperboy333]

it's always a good day when Scott talks about Mario Party, which sadly doesn't happen often. Thanks Scott, and I hope the Mario Party 3 video on the main channel is gonna happen one day :))

[@RakoonCD]

Mario Party DS was my first MP, shame it was the last Hudson game.

[@kanazukateatears]

IT WAS THE LAST? NOOO

[@RakoonCD]

@@kanazukateatears kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4qUlHp-hpWJbqcsi=qLCPe2oQjeWWz9bj

[@holzlaim2864]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1915">31:55</a> yes. Yes it was. Especially on the 3DS, watching all other people roll their dice and then watching them walk and the dialogue is boring as hell this is an amazing change actually

[@JanTheMangaMan]

Mario Party 7 and DS are my favorites. Great video of the series Plus fzero maximum velocity was goated 😤

[@emmettito]

Toad Scramble absolutely puts Star Rush in my Top 2 Mario Party games.

[@jedisalsohere]

I will always maintain that Star Rush is in fact Not That Bad, mainly because of Coinathlon. You and your opponents race around a track, collecting as many coins as you can in minute-long minigames in order to reach the end first. It's skill-based, frantic and hugely competitive, and is insanely fun with friends or alone.

[@Nerdtendo6366]

Mario Party went from “man, I should do coke” to “man, this is so boring. I should do coke”

[@tyzilla358]

Yeah, I'm so sick of people complaining about how "unfair" the game is. And I'm also sick of people saying "this game ruins friendships". Mario party allows you to be as strategic as you want to be. But in the end it reminds you to not take it too seriously. And for those of you who lost a friend over this game......Wtf is wrong with you? You are the problem. Not the game.

[@zs4580]

Lol when people say that Mario party ruins friendships they are joking.

[@TinyGuy97]

@@zs4580 Yeah, it more speaks about him than others.

[@ps2startup]

Scoot i hope u know you're wrong about Mario Party 8

[@SuperM789]

MARIO PARTY 9 IS AWESOME, STOP THE SLANDER

[@gsampson97]

Mario Party 8 was my obsession as a kid. I would play with family or just on my own for hours. All the boards having different themes and objectives. Loved it

[@GoldenT1K]

I was able to get Mario Party DS through the orange DSi Christmas bundle way back when. Still have that beautiful thing.

[@Marshall.R]

As someone who grew up with Mario Party 9 specifically, and thus didn't have the context of the other games in the series for a long time, I think the game is still a lot more fun than most give it credit for. Is it significantly worse than the other games in the series? Maybe, I don't know. But it's a damn fun time nonetheless.

[@FletcherReedsRandomness]

I love how when you look at the Mario Party games between 9 and The Top 100, most people are just kinda like “well that wasn’t very good but whatever”, while Mario Party fans are like “complete garbage, some of the worst Nintendo games ever made”. Idk I definitely don’t like them either but I think it’s funny to see the divide between the average gamer and Mario Party fans on the subject. The Top 100 is the most pathetic imo

[@SuperM789]

same thing with paper mario, sticker star was the 29th best selling 3ds game

[@troyithy]

mario party 8 is phenomenal and i love the strange realistic locations, the carnival bazaar parade with the little toys is a fun reward for getting the little tickets

[@AgentOctoOfficial]

Mario party DS is definitely one of the best ones. Especially as someone with siblings who also had DSs, we could play Mario party in the car with download play and I even had a great time playing alone

[@Orangienblue]

Mario Party DS was MY Mario Party. such a great game I played it for hours

[@blubba818]

The Mario series amiibo are seriously so great! They’re a huge quality leap from the early Super Smash series. I wish they’d redo some of the early Super Smash characters now that they’re better at making amiibo. I especially want characters who got major redesigns in Ultimate like Zelda.

[@MEUProductions]

Mario Party Advance is the one I'm most nostalgic for. I have very find memories of playing the game on road trips with my siblings on our SPs.

[@drakewaterston7447]

I genuinely love 8 the most because of the use of the wii remote, it just felt like they were made for each other. There's frustrating minigames for sure but it's so interactive. My wife and I have been playing it for over 10 years now

[@tastethepainbow]

I hope you cover the Mario RPGs' dark era sometime in the future.

[@mewni2527]

sadly he's not a rpg guy

[@tastethepainbow]

@@mewni2527 IIRC, he likes stuff like older Paper Mario and M&L, and he's talked negatively about newer Paper Marios on the main channel, so it's not out of the question.

[@SuperM789]

sticker star > super paper mario

[@mrbeaver6000]

But they just take _so_ damn long to complete!

[@tastethepainbow]

@@mrbeaver6000 I know you're just doing the lyrics, but the Mario RPGs are definitely comparitably shorter considering much of the modern JRPG catalogue (or even some of the older ones). Like, they only reach about 30 hours at max and that's only if you're trying to go for everything, which, IMO, is the perfect length for an RPG. Not to mention these games have a lot more in terms of player engagement.

[@SnowFleiqs]

Mario party 9 was my first Mario party game, I think that's why I don't hate it, I really like that game

[@freakfoxvevo7915]

It was my 3rd after MP8 and DS.

[@traviscunningham7062]

I think I found someone who grew up in the Wii and DS era.

[@SnowFleiqs]

@@traviscunningham7062 yup, but I only got my ds and 3ds in 2016 or 2017 I think

[@SerienJunkieYT]

Same bro, Mario Party 9 was my first MP too

[@exchlodus_]

mario party DS was the first ever video game that i owned. i was 4 years old and played that thing constantly, i'm so happy its been getting some more love in recent years

[@bigwrymm]

I love board games and Mario party and the randomness is a party of most games card or dice, but the best games give you fun and interesting ways to mitigate the random parts.

[@KingRey.]

Mario Party Superstars is the best in my opinion. The ultimate culmination of all the past games.

[@real_abender]

Sure would be nice to have some DLC for it though

[@officialbrea]

i wish some ds mini games were included but it is a great package

[@jarrettbellboy]

I agree but I wish it had more boards

[@a_cute_star]

I would agree on Superstars being the best but since it doesn't have much content as it should have, I will stay with Mario Party DS and 8 as my fav

[@FunkyGhost37]

It's still a bit imbalanced, mainly the Chomp Whistle being way too cheap andc ommon for what it does and turns the entire game into a chase.

[@midnightyawshandghostdoggo]

Hot take: I actually really love Mario Party 9.

[@queasycarboy508]

I actually love it too. Its much more realistic.

[@kirbehetcetera]

I have a soft spot for 10 because it was my first real introduction to Mario. This era’s high point was definitely the bosses. I hope they bring bosses back in future games

[@arkane9b]

Common misconception: mini-games i MP9 only occur when landing on a mini-game space. In fact, mini-games also appear when every player has taken a turn, and a player lands on a blue space and it's been at least four turns since last mini-game (if there are four players).

[@WhimsicottFanatic]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="617">10:17</a> - I don't know whether it was Sam or Scott that was responsible for the escalating cartoon bonk sound effects per Bonk game appearing, but just know it was greatly appreciated

[@joshuagoforth1658]

And the way I describe Mario party 9 is it’s playable that’s it and I agree the mini games are honestly pretty decent

[@traviscunningham7062]

Finally someone who says something positive about Mario Party 9. People hate the game for starting the car formula, but it’s still great unlike Mario Party 10.

[@joshuagoforth1658]

@@traviscunningham7062 yeah 9 with other people can at least be somewhat entertaining and then 10 manages to be total crap

[@CalculusMan]

Konami became a majority stakeholder in 2005 for hudson soft. My guess is that nintendo and konami were not able to strike an agreement and hudson was told to finish their final remaining projects (mp8 and ds) and then move on to other things.

[@Brand0n555]

Me and my wife absolutely love to play mario party. We get really competitive but like teasing competitive. One of my fav games.

[@riversart2030]

I'm glad they went back to the old formula but for someone who still owns all the old games, Superstars just doesn't feel like it's worth the money to me. I'm ready for Nintendo to make a brand new Mario Party and really put their all into it, no more treating it like a b-list series. I want to see a Mario Party with bigger boards and more mini games than ever before. Also, how about something new for the single player mode? A hub world where you could run around and find secrets/solve puzzles to progress would be really cool.

[@Giran_0]

I know I'm in the minority but 7 is still the best Mario party hands down that's the one my family and friends still play to this day (when we can)

[@Bluelight5587-hh9iy]

7 is my favorite as well with 6 being a close 2nd

[@Giran_0]

It's nice to see someone gets it

[@darthgamer9861]

so glad to see someone give 7 love

[@TinyGuy97]

7 is my second favorite. My first favorite is 6.

[@bullymaguire1]

it’s all about the good memories bro

[@Konakona25]

I always held Mario Party DS as my favorite. The memories of playing that, and Mario Kart DS, every morning/afternoon on the school bus in elementary school with all the friends are precious to me. :)

[@Deoxy360]

Mario Party 8 got a 5.2?! I have so many memories with that one! Mostly being at parties while drinking

[@MMOchAForPrez]

I'm not sure why I never suggested this topic. I've ALWAYS been curious about the less-than-stellar titles in the Mario Party series. Like any long time Nintendo property, it's been through the ringer.

[@diegoestrada4389]

I really don't think Super Mario Party should be lumped in the dark era at all tbh bc while it's not the most fun Mario Party ever or anything since the other classic games do some things better, it's still a solid Mario Party game in the grand scheme of things especially since this game is to thank for for bringing the classic formula back and making the series good again.

[@ranpan6082]

It still kinda had that NdCube stink about it. It was advertised as a return to form, which is deceptive given it's not a return to the first eight games. One of the biggest points against it was being forced to use a single Joy-Con. Why? I saw so many angry over this, and for good reason. The game would be so much better if it had the option for Pro Controller support. On top of that, the core game isn't that good. It was another of Nintendo's 2018 filler games that were lacking in content, like Kirby Star Allies and Mario Tennis Aces. Four boards is honestly unacceptable. Then the boards themselves are small, bland, and lifeless. The economy was awful and the mechanics were unbalanced. And the other modes were very worthless aside from River Survival. None of the side modes had any depth to them. Real online play didn't come until almost three years later. I hate Super Mario Party. It was a game that I felt genuine buyers remorse for. It wasn't fun, having to use a single Joy-Con was miserable, and nothing felt like it mattered when coins were so easy to obtain and the broken mechanics made it so easy to win. Frankly, I prefer Mario Party 9 over it. It was a step in the right direction, but they botched so many things about it, that it really doesn't matter. It felt like a "baby step" towards what fans wanted rather than what people had been begging for to return for years. It's like going from Sticker Star to Color Splash.

[@NickMario1]

@@ranpan6082it plus it was apart of the bland era of mario

[@bobboberson8297]

@@ranpan6082 being single joycon only let them design the game to take advantage of the joycons features which was pretty cool. rumble on the pro controller is like 5% as good as the joycons for example, a lot of the game's features would never work or exist if the game wasn't joycon only

[@AidenLiquid]

@@ranpan6082the game is also SLOW AS HELL.

[@ranpan6082]

@@AidenLiquid That was another thing I hated. It felt like a chore to play, with the 1-6 dice block. A 50 turn game in the Nintendo 64 and GameCube games felt like it went by faster than a 20 turn game in Super Mario Party. Not to mention, the items were GARBAGE! They gimped many of the returning items, and the new ones were either broken, or not very good. The Golden Pipes were WAY to OP.

[@wowyzowy1895]

my friends and I loved patio party 9. Mario party DS was my first Mario party, I'm not the oldest, but Mario party 9 was one of my favorites.

[@taninrobertson2262]

Mario Part 2 is goated specifically for the unique costumes on each board

[@silviosprite8696]

Mario Party 3 scoring less than the rest is a hot take.

[@MarioKartSuperCircuit]

Where is Mario Party DS?!?

[@watchf]

12:35 here

[@mamrelaadi4066]

Mario party DS is still one of my favourite Mario party games, I like that it has a strong theme that all the boards and mini games are designed around

[@k-rb-]

mario party ds has always been one of my favorites :3

[@LightPink]

9 and 10 were the only ones I've played 💀

[@NinHenry]

sorry to hear that

[@BirdCraftSSB]

Said it once and I’ll say it again I will die on the hill that Mario Party 9 is a GOOD Mario Party Game

[@SuperM789]

BASED

[@traviscunningham7062]

SAME. How’s Mario Party 8? I haven’t played it so is it good?

[@BirdCraftSSB]

@@traviscunningham7062it’s fine

[@Eduar6996]

⁠​⁠@@traviscunningham7062Bad lol

[@franciscofranco1314]

Good game? Sure Good Mario Party Game? Not entirely sure about that.

[@MrTimeforhipe]

Mario Party has been a staple of my friend group as we grew up. I miss them alot.

[@flawlesssock8153]

How to be nintendo, step 1: lower expectations (people buy super mario party) step 2: do the bare minimum (people buy mario party superstars) step 3: make millions

[@joshuagoforth1658]

F zero maximum velocity made me break my switch 😂😭

[@-littlesquare-1987]

mario party 9 best mario party. but also it was my first mario party so idfk

[@donaldthescotishtwin]

8 is way over hated. Actually the last good Mario Party game.

[@ianchabot5550]

I love mario party 8, always played it with my family. I love the diferent boards that have diferent gimmicks.

[@internetguy7319]

Hey Scott, Hudson business theory here. My theory as to why Hudson stopped making Mario Party was that they were in talks for Konami acquiring them for a while, which would mean that they want to avoid a Rare Buyout type deal. Konami probably wanted no part in it.

[@SuperGalaxy]

If you do a lot of digging and research, you would find out a majority of the staff that worked on the previous games have worked on the modern era basically most of the staff is the same