Nincada vs Shedinja (and Ninjask) - Pokemon Emerald

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Scott's Thoughts

Scott's Thoughts

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@mufasa5851
@mufasa5851 3 күн бұрын
Would swagger be better than confuse ray. The attk boost makes them hit themselves more and they're one shotting yiu anyways.
@ScottsThoughtsPokemon
@ScottsThoughtsPokemon 3 күн бұрын
There is another way: HP, Spite, Protect, Fury Cutter - Ike the Killer used it on stream and got a much better result
@AdamEspersona
@AdamEspersona 20 күн бұрын
In today’s video, Scott has some bugs to work out… and onto the tier list.
@aubreyfrasier7878
@aubreyfrasier7878 19 күн бұрын
Best comment lmfao!!
@danw3576
@danw3576 20 күн бұрын
I would say no to the added Abras, I think it adds a clearly needed boost to the extremely slow Mons in that they are the only ones able to access teleport. I do, however, think that you should provide an additional Goomy to every party, Goomy is cute and would improve the morale of the party.
@olavjorvik94
@olavjorvik94 20 күн бұрын
YES! 2,5 hours and 80 resets on the FIRST GYM! This is the content we’re here for!😂😂
@myklsteel8486
@myklsteel8486 20 күн бұрын
Shedinja might be one of the few pokemon that would benefit from evolving throughout the playthrough, as it would likely evolve after Roxanne. Poor Shedinja!
@usuario15965
@usuario15965 19 күн бұрын
Yeah:(
@Kinlith
@Kinlith 20 күн бұрын
Fun fact: Shedinja's defenses have a purpose. When a ditto changes into shedinja it gets shedinjas stats outside of HP. Competitive players purposely get the iv's as low as possible for that pokemon
@dirtydard4870
@dirtydard4870 19 күн бұрын
You don't have to say "fun fact" first. You can just say the fact
@paulmann8570
@paulmann8570 19 күн бұрын
@@dirtydard4870Ehh, it counts given few people outside of the Ubers playerbase would think about this.
@dirtydard4870
@dirtydard4870 19 күн бұрын
@@paulmann8570 Counts for what? You don't have to preface the things you say in order to say them. It is a fun fact, but he doesn't have to announce it as such.
@paulmann8570
@paulmann8570 19 күн бұрын
@@dirtydard4870 Disclaimer: Not everybody understands the full context of what is said in text, lol.
@kittykat1111111111
@kittykat1111111111 19 күн бұрын
@@dirtydard4870 Who shat in your cornflakes?
@TheShinyFeraligatr
@TheShinyFeraligatr 19 күн бұрын
If Ninjask had an ability that wasn't Speed Boost, it'd be a lot worse, even ingame. That ability essentially guarantees you'll get a good Baton Pass off, and Baton Pass is the best move in every single Pokemon game where it is available. (Also, I'd very seriously argue that Ninjask would have done significantly better in your tier list if Roxanne didn't specifically wall it.) I am also reminding you, again, that if you have beaten the 5th Gym Leader in any of Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald, you never, ever, ever, EVER have to fight wild pokemon for EXP. You have access to the Trainer Eyes/Match Call, which means you can rematch people infinitely, and they will quickly end up with teams that have levels above 30 even if they have 6 Pokemon (which two people around Mauville do)
@MattWarb
@MattWarb 19 күн бұрын
Pin this lol
@WarbGames
@WarbGames 17 күн бұрын
​@@MattWarb what the hell is a "warb"?
@infinitesheldon5710
@infinitesheldon5710 20 күн бұрын
Hey Scott, would Swagger work better than Confuse Ray against Steven? The attack boost doesn't impact Shedinja at all, but it might make the Skarmory do more damage to itself when it hits itself in confusion. Might make it easier for Shedinja to knock out? I just don't know what the ranges would look like
@Wow1w
@Wow1w 20 күн бұрын
Hmmmm yes and no; while swagger method Could work faster to KO skarmory quicker, you lose the consistency with the other pokemon, thanks to non-perfect accuracy.
@misirtere9836
@misirtere9836 19 күн бұрын
@@Wow1w 90 is good enough for a turn 1 strat I think, especially since the Confusion itself is the main flaw for the consistency of confusion strats
@deltorapete
@deltorapete 18 күн бұрын
You continue to go above and beyond with providing us quality content Scott. When you first mentioned Daily December, I just assumed we would get 31 single pokemon videos because of the sheer time investment needed for each pokemons playthroughs. Yet here we are with multiple VS videos, some of which use completely horrendous and time consuming pokemon like Chansey and now Shedinja/Nincada! How you have the energy to do this is beyond me, but goddamn do I appreciate your efforts and determination. Now that you are planning to do first stage/middle stage runs for Emerald, I just want to point out an item that you may want to consider. In Dewford cave there is an Everstone which could potentially save you a lot of time throughout the run by preventing the post battle evolution cancelling. Of course this all depends on how badly the mon needs different held items for grinding and the time loss associated with having to open the bag and swap out the held items as needed. So yeah, potential food for thought seeing as you've never had to think about the Everstone in any of your playthroughs so far. Please keep up the amazing work Scott and the team, I'm looking forward to more future videos! Also hell yeah, Gulpin time 2025!! Edit: Forgot to mention that you are also still not using the correct pronounciation during the 8th gym fight. You kept saying you were getting "One Hits" when you should have been saying "Juan Hits" 😂
@thesillyone3837
@thesillyone3837 20 күн бұрын
Shedinja learns final gambit The move that knocks yourself out and hits your opponent with your current hp
@StangSayz
@StangSayz 18 күн бұрын
Now that is a fun fact 😂
@seedling345
@seedling345 18 күн бұрын
500 resets and 600 resets is why I love your channel, the dedication is impeccable. Great video Scott.
@berrim26
@berrim26 20 күн бұрын
Shedinja can learn Rest, Double Edge, Substitute and Sandstorm legitimately. Someone tell Pikasprey!
@tamlynloell
@tamlynloell 20 күн бұрын
If the pokemon that uses toxic is faster, rest would have some utility...
@MrEnte3000
@MrEnte3000 20 күн бұрын
@@tamlynloell Rest fails at full HP.
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 20 күн бұрын
and Wonderguard is useless with Double Edge used Shedninja with ONLY 1 MAX HP WOULD still KILL itself with Recoil damage.
@zimmerwald1915
@zimmerwald1915 20 күн бұрын
​@@veghesther3204that's the idea, give Shedinja a moveset that is either useless of self-destructive, get rid of all the player's items, money, and other pokemon, and ask them to continue playing anyway
@llSuperSnivyll
@llSuperSnivyll 20 күн бұрын
Final Gambit, too.
@red-eyessolares1817
@red-eyessolares1817 20 күн бұрын
I definitely expected the generally Support based line to not do the best. Something to try out for Nincada’s early game with Roxanne is using Fury Swipes over cut because of Compound Eyes, and then going with a Leppa Berry to regain PP on Leech Life.
@rainbowskin3379
@rainbowskin3379 20 күн бұрын
Your discussion on evolution runs benefiting Shedinja gave me the Idea that it would be interesting if during your evolutionary lines videos for fire red and platinum, you allowed yourself to use both Shedinja and Ninjask. It's certainly unconventional, but I think it would be a fun run.
@bettyunicorn6132
@bettyunicorn6132 20 күн бұрын
I would adore that.
@ricksdarkness3257
@ricksdarkness3257 20 күн бұрын
Maybe even modding the game to turn every battle into a double battle
@gersubdenis6724
@gersubdenis6724 19 күн бұрын
He should absolutely do that. in fact I would go a step further and say he should do a community race with this one. the amount of possible strategies with this one is enormous and finding the best strategy would be a much bigger challenge with a lot more variance. you could not even fall back to conventional strategies simlpy because you can now switch your pokemon (to get rid of debuffs) and even do sacrifice plays. who gets which tm and how are the exp being distributed are new qustions that need to be considered as opposed to a normal solo run. I am drooling just thinking about a run like this.
@TheJklgamer
@TheJklgamer 20 күн бұрын
Hey Scott, I'd suggest that you add a function to your overlay that automatically adds a master ball to your inventory when a wild shiny pokemon appers, so you can catch it easily without impacting the solo pokemons performance a lot.
@bettyunicorn6132
@bettyunicorn6132 20 күн бұрын
Thats really funny
@johngleeman8347
@johngleeman8347 20 күн бұрын
Glorious to see the reset counter go into the triple digits. :D
@rainbowskin3379
@rainbowskin3379 20 күн бұрын
I adore this vs video idea. Despite Nincada being a preevolution to ninjask and shedinja, they all have different typings. I'm excited to see how this turns out.
@OhJustCallMeLuke
@OhJustCallMeLuke 20 күн бұрын
Your second pronunciation of Humberto was awesome. Btw, my grandfather's name was Humberto Fernando. Greetings from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
@nachorzeszut1857
@nachorzeszut1857 20 күн бұрын
The best place for attack and speed IVS is route 103, since you only find Wingull ann zigzagoon (40%) for speed EVs and poochyenas (60%) for attack EVs
@skeetermania3202
@skeetermania3202 20 күн бұрын
@@nachorzeszut1857 For first stage Pokémon, I think he should consider this to save levels late-game.
@ibnraed
@ibnraed 19 күн бұрын
came to the comments to say this exact thing
@yoshiwoollyworld
@yoshiwoollyworld 19 күн бұрын
Don’t you mean EVs?
@nachorzeszut1857
@nachorzeszut1857 18 күн бұрын
@@yoshiwoollyworld Autocorrect lol
@yoshiwoollyworld
@yoshiwoollyworld 18 күн бұрын
@@nachorzeszut1857 “the best place for attack and speed ivs”
@peternicholas3719
@peternicholas3719 19 күн бұрын
Jerry the Giratina was a genius nickname, and I stand by this.
@ChaosWindScar99
@ChaosWindScar99 17 күн бұрын
Welp we all knew it would happen eventually a whole family of mons that just aren't good... Well good on you Scott for persevering.
@DigiRangerScott
@DigiRangerScott 20 күн бұрын
WE’RE GULPIN DOWN A HEARTY 2025
@AdamEspersona
@AdamEspersona 20 күн бұрын
And hey, it can actually learn Bullet Seed, giving it an option against Roxanne.
@Xeraser2
@Xeraser2 19 күн бұрын
BOOOOO
@aubreyfrasier7878
@aubreyfrasier7878 19 күн бұрын
Comments like these restores my faith in humanity 😅
@TheShinyFeraligatr
@TheShinyFeraligatr 19 күн бұрын
@@AdamEspersona so what you're saying is that it has a swalot of options?
@AdamEspersona
@AdamEspersona 19 күн бұрын
@TheShinyFeraligatr enough for a stockpile of coverage
@disasterarea9341
@disasterarea9341 4 күн бұрын
there is actually an edge case where shedinja's defense and special defense come into play (and hence its a good thing they're not zero or close to it). future sight and doom desire can be used against shedinja (even if it uses protect on that turn, the moves will still be called, and protect also cannot protect shedinja from being KO'd by them in 2 turns if it stays in). if shedinja switches out after the opponent uses future sight or doom desire, then shedinja's partner which takes the future sight/doom desire takes damage based on *shedinja's* defense/spdef (respectively). this isnt relevant for a solo run or even relevant that often competitively, but it is the circumstance where its defensive stats other than hp can impact a game.
@TheMoogleKing93
@TheMoogleKing93 20 күн бұрын
Shedinja has defence stats in case someone Baton Passes it a Substitute!
@Coolbond2
@Coolbond2 20 күн бұрын
Or because of ditto copying it as ditto keeps its hp but gains the stats of the copy.
@christophertomlinson8097
@christophertomlinson8097 19 күн бұрын
The substitute is based of the user's Defense and Sp.Defense. It stats don't change with Baton Bass
@TheMoogleKing93
@TheMoogleKing93 19 күн бұрын
@@christophertomlinson8097 that's wrong. Only the HP of the substitute is based on the user.
@Chronoflation
@Chronoflation 19 күн бұрын
Shedinja's 1 HP is one of my favorite memes on Pokemon. In gen 8 they made a 5 star max raid battle with Shedinja and gave it something like 8 shields. None of which matter cause the shields do not prevent all damage, so 1 point of chip still 1 shots it
@perkypenguin1663
@perkypenguin1663 20 күн бұрын
On the twenty-first day of Christmas, Scott’s Thoughts gave to me… Twenty-one cicada fams, Twenty Swords Dance backports, Nineteen mid tadpole swirls, Eighteen mid bell peppers, Seventeen backported legends, Sixteen evolution tests, Fifteen Kanto kaiju, Fourteen starter redos, Thirteen rare Normal girls, Twelve bear v bull fights, Eleven Gen 1 backports, Ten pounds per pink puff, Nine resists when evolved, Eight Belly Drum badges, Seven years with Psywave, Six slow squad solos, Five mid starter flings! Four Eevee runs, Three years post redo, Two Grass/Ice types, And a Hitmontop in Gen 3!
@myklsteel8486
@myklsteel8486 20 күн бұрын
Omg please do a versus video for slugma vs gulpin. I would die laughing
@ONLY_RR7
@ONLY_RR7 20 күн бұрын
Might as well backport Sawk then
@vincentsterel6448
@vincentsterel6448 20 күн бұрын
I've used Nincada in several nuzlockes before, and fury swipes (100% accurate due to Compound Eyes) REALLY helps against Roxanne (and rival 2), which still does at least 1 damage per hit even after Nosepass sets up harden several times.
@guillermocalle2184
@guillermocalle2184 16 күн бұрын
Imagine an evolution run for Nincada. It's a run where you'd have 2 usable mons to send out.
@FigaroBrothers
@FigaroBrothers 20 күн бұрын
Hola, Scott! Yes, your pronounciation of Juan in this video is good. You usually omit the 'J' (which sounds kinda like an 'h' in English so, if it really is hard, saying "Hwang" would be 10x better than saying "One" :P). Funny thing, the 'H' in "Humberto" IS mute. So you should say "Umberto" if you ever have to mention that trainer again. Nice effort on the prnounciation though, it WAS mostly right.
@georgiosvavliaras1066
@georgiosvavliaras1066 17 күн бұрын
Love your idea of leveling up to 25 before evolving! Would love to see a run with that strategy I command your determination Scott, thanks once again and Merry Christmas!
@sheahon1179
@sheahon1179 19 күн бұрын
58:47 Scott buys double team, the ghost of echoing statements calls out "Skarmory"
@williambaker5730
@williambaker5730 6 күн бұрын
This was a really excellent video - your production is amazing and the regularity of the uploads is incredible. Keep it up - I watch every one!!
@ajs.7363
@ajs.7363 11 күн бұрын
Scott, you are an inspiration for doing these runs. So glad to watch them, sorry for the many hours of your life you will never get back.
@JJSSBU
@JJSSBU 19 күн бұрын
52:40 Yes! You did get it! You've been getting it correct since... the Altaria video if memory serves right (Saying this as a spanish person btw, i was one of the people to call you out)
@breadpope0358
@breadpope0358 13 күн бұрын
One of my favorite Scott's Thought's video's of all time.. So many silly moments and sticky situations...
@iSmurfYou
@iSmurfYou 19 күн бұрын
48:43 get hit on slaking's first turn, dig on the loaf turn. then just continue digging.
@tsawy6
@tsawy6 16 күн бұрын
This fails in general because of counter
@AllonBachuth
@AllonBachuth 20 күн бұрын
Scott, you're a gem. Well done.
@NoctisVigil
@NoctisVigil 18 күн бұрын
"The drawback here is my PP. It just can't go the distance." Bruh. Did a full on spittake at work over this. 🤣🤣🤣
@Rebelsk8s
@Rebelsk8s 20 күн бұрын
Your Juan and Humberto are very much on point mi amigo ;)
@salamense6791
@salamense6791 20 күн бұрын
I think the reason why Shedinja has a defense stat is for Pokemon transforming in to Shedinja and the damage formula doesn't like dividing by 0
@Wow1w
@Wow1w 20 күн бұрын
So why not do a Chansey and give it 5/10 in the respective stats? *Edit* it just came to me that it Could be useful when you're baton passed a substitute and it uses Shedinja's Defense stats for damage calculations, sooo yeah.
@SussyBaka-nx4ge
@SussyBaka-nx4ge 19 күн бұрын
A base 0 defense Pokemon would still have at least 5 defense so it would not cause problems with the damage formula.
@firedrake110
@firedrake110 19 күн бұрын
It was really brave of Scott to try and beat Roxanne after swapping out Shedinja's Wonder Guard for Machamp's No Guard.
@Bl3Moze
@Bl3Moze 20 күн бұрын
I’m proud of all your shinies Scott.
@dylanshultz3560
@dylanshultz3560 20 күн бұрын
Shedinja spend so long in the first gym that i forgot this was a versus run😂
@PlutoDarknight
@PlutoDarknight 20 күн бұрын
Commenting from the start of the video, I can see issues for every combatant: - Nincada, as a preevolution, has the lowest BST of the three. The type coverage with Ground, Steel, Ghost, Flying and Bug is fine but without Swords Dance to push the physical types, it will struggle towards the late game. - Ninjask has the better offensive stats but with far too much speed and effectively a useless ability. Sadly this is not competitive, so Ninjask won't be able to make use of Focus Sash for a free Swords Dance every fight. The coverage is the same as Nincada but the much reduced defense will likely be a struggle when opponents like Roxanne are always incentivised to spam Rock Tomb. - Shedinja is...something. The great issue it has is its gimmick with Wonder Guard. Only ever having 1 HP means that any time it can not one-tap an enemy that can hit it for super effective damage, it will be walled until it can. If Shedinja at 100 can't beat Steven, that will be it.
@TheShinyFeraligatr
@TheShinyFeraligatr 19 күн бұрын
Also, the Focus Sash doesn't exist in Gen 3.
@Penguindude1
@Penguindude1 20 күн бұрын
In the Hoenn games, you can only find Wild Pinsir in the Safari Zone. Also... damn this was a hell of a Season Finale.
@joel2628
@joel2628 19 күн бұрын
Crazy that I've been watching Scott's videos for almost five years.
@ranmashiah1999
@ranmashiah1999 20 күн бұрын
The Abra having the twisted spoon made me laugh idk why.
@ReisHeredia
@ReisHeredia 19 күн бұрын
Finally I heard Juan ok 😂, congratulations Scott I love your videos ❤
@adventureoflinkmk2
@adventureoflinkmk2 20 күн бұрын
12:41 perfect run for shedinja ends here (no surprise) 26:10 perfect run for ninjask ends here F in the chat Press F to pay respects
@zeckemyro7031
@zeckemyro7031 19 күн бұрын
Shedinja's Defense and Special Defense come into play when a Substitute is Baton Passed to it. The Substitute still has a quarter of the original Pokémon's HP, but it uses the current Pokémon's defensive stats. Doesn't come into play in this format but it's a fun fact nonetheless!
@TheLukeskywalker2
@TheLukeskywalker2 20 күн бұрын
22 minutes into the video, I forgot it was a versus video.
@skeetermania3202
@skeetermania3202 20 күн бұрын
One more thing, did you try Fury Swipes with Nincada? CompoundEyes gives it 100% accuracy, and it will almost always outdamage Cut.
@mr.cauliflower3536
@mr.cauliflower3536 20 күн бұрын
Scott, lowering your pdef is actually the play, because if the enemy has ditto, you can knock it out more easily.
@ktvx.94
@ktvx.94 19 күн бұрын
41:48 Argentina mentioned 🇦🇷
@MrEnte3000
@MrEnte3000 20 күн бұрын
Shedinja's Defense stats are for when it has gotten a Substitute through Baton Pass or Shed Tail.
@TetrisPhantom
@TetrisPhantom 17 күн бұрын
Shedinja's defensive stat allocations are used when a substitute is baton passed to it. The sub has the HP of the creator, but uses the defenses of the current host. In a sense, this means a shedinja can have more than one HP by proxy.
@RaynmanPlays
@RaynmanPlays 20 күн бұрын
Shedinja would be so much better if they had just given Wonder Guard the additional effect of negating passive damage. Of course, then hacked Sableyes and Spiritombs _would_ be unbeatable.
@TyroRNG
@TyroRNG 20 күн бұрын
Fire fang in gen 4 begs to differ. Looking at you spiritomb...
@pate283
@pate283 19 күн бұрын
Hey Scott! Did you consider the following moveset for Shedinja?: 1: Swagger (For increased confusion damage) 2: Secret Power (30% flinch chance when used inside of the cave) 3: Shadow ball (STAB) 4: Double Team or Protect (For stalling the battle after swagger) Item: Focus Band Thank you for the awesome content you have created for us!
@CarnageO31
@CarnageO31 19 күн бұрын
Scott once again torturing himself for our entertainment.
@jussioman
@jussioman 20 күн бұрын
Even after proven that Nincada line sucks I still love these bugs.
@josephicikson1959
@josephicikson1959 20 күн бұрын
3:44 why did you pick up Oran Berries in your Shedinja playthrough?
@breadpope0358
@breadpope0358 13 күн бұрын
hungry
@realbloodydoves
@realbloodydoves 20 күн бұрын
The only challenge run I've ever done was a Heartgold run with a single Nincada (and then its two evolutions once it evolved) and let me tell you what, Jasmine was a real big problem for Ninjask and Shedinja. Shedinja is a super *cool* pokemon and when it's good it's amazing but when it's bad, it's worse than useless. Fun stuff.
@jeminem619
@jeminem619 18 күн бұрын
“Lady Roxanne…… it’s the shedinja trainer…. Again.”
@ChefMonke07
@ChefMonke07 17 күн бұрын
I did a Mono Ghost run in Emerald. And considering I had no level cap rule AND my rule states that I have to use the first Ghost I can get my hands on, I was forced to use Shedinja against Roxanne. Only difference is I allowed myself the use of Double Team, which eventually got me the win.
@ZerglingOne1
@ZerglingOne1 19 күн бұрын
We need to add an encounter for Scott. Wallace's Ludicolo, A Pelipper, Blue's mono-electric Magneton, Karen's Umbreon, Steven's Metagross, and Red's Snorlax. The Pokémon troll final boss.
@T____W____7777
@T____W____7777 19 күн бұрын
Hey Scott it’s kind of crazy, but if you can learn to RNG manipulate mirage island, I think that will help you moving forward with these weak physically attacking mons. On the island you can get a Leichi berry, which when combined with substitute, you can get an additional boost to your attack stat in the Steven fight. I did this once in a different challenge play through of my own, and that berry came in clutch to beat Steve on my first try. It might be useful for you in future play throughs. Anyways, thanks for the vid, sorry you couldn’t beat Shedinja, was looking forward to that one, but at least the Regis will look a little less out of place now.
@sneeringimperialist4227
@sneeringimperialist4227 19 күн бұрын
Was thinking about the Steven battle with shedinja - what about a special hidden power like HP Fire for Skarmory? So the sequence would be something like: Turn 1 HP fire bringing it down to 30ish%. Survive with focus band. Turn 2 knock out Skarm. Turn 3 double team against claydol (RNG but not TOO bad). Going forward I think every opposing poke would be a two shot, so you'd have (if my napkin math is right) a 40% chance to evade once per poke. Adding all the RNG together, you'd beat Steven once every 390 tries. BUT a lot of the RNG is front-loaded with the Skarm; once you're past Skarm you'd win once every 39 tries. Seems tedious but do-able?
@tysonpestner
@tysonpestner 19 күн бұрын
You’re the man, Scott
@UnlimitedRun
@UnlimitedRun 19 күн бұрын
58:35 Why buy a Double Team TM at the game corner? Did you sell the one on Route 113 (the one with the falling ash) earlier? It's hidden in an ash pile north of the western-most patch of tall grass.
@EmbraerLegacy600
@EmbraerLegacy600 19 күн бұрын
I like the Abra rule as is. Allows races to be a bit more close
@maebemaebenot
@maebemaebenot 19 күн бұрын
Pain free adjustments like easy abra are totally fine, it’s like fixing the surge “puzzle” from Kanto.
@TsushimaHaru
@TsushimaHaru 19 күн бұрын
I really liked the way you pronounced Humberto, it's a uncommon name here in Brazil, but it appears sometimes
@THEDEY2
@THEDEY2 19 күн бұрын
Nincada in Leaf Green would be an interesting versus, that's for sure
@Chronoflation
@Chronoflation 19 күн бұрын
I look forward to you attempting Fire Red with Shedinja just to get to the second round league champion and realize the Tyranitar's sandstorm makes it impossible
@solidsnakeandgrayfox
@solidsnakeandgrayfox 18 күн бұрын
Not if shedinja uses sunny day
@Chronoflation
@Chronoflation 16 күн бұрын
@solidsnakeandgrayfox it has crunch. It can't survive that turn regardless
@patrickbroome5427
@patrickbroome5427 19 күн бұрын
Now that we open the door to first stage again, I pitch Oy the Zigzagoon, the best billy-bumbler
@samuell8721
@samuell8721 20 күн бұрын
As Scott mentioned Shedinja mirrors Ninjask’s Moveset Starting as Nincada and evolve it into Shedinja might actually help to improve its time as evolving at Level 25 will let it gain access to Sword Dance, probably one of the best move in the game. Maybe it will be worth trying in a stream to see if sword dance can save it or not But by judging Ninjask’s result I think it’ll still gonna have Surge or even Bruno tier at best
@dr.pizzaburger6479
@dr.pizzaburger6479 20 күн бұрын
I had forgotten you're a fellow Canadian and was spacing out when I suddenly heard you mention going to school in Montreal and went 'wait a minute, I've been there!' lmao
@mathturtle37
@mathturtle37 19 күн бұрын
I fully support adding the Improbable tier. Like Shedinja is technically possible but it is roughly as likely as a full odds shiny. Kinda unfair to lump it in with "I start with only Explosion" mons but it couldn't finish legitimately either. I think a 'had to use Double Team' tier would be a good addition too, especially for Emerald and FireRed round 2. Steven and E4 round 2 are really hard so I think there will be a good number of first stages in that tier. (Also for future games HeartGold with E4 round two required to get to Red). For your early EV training: Route 103 (where you fight the first rival fight) is better since the mons there only give attack and speed (source: I've done EV training in gen 3 and looked at most of the routes to see if they're useful for it). 103 is the best early game spot for Attack and one of the better ones for speed.
@armann1992
@armann1992 20 күн бұрын
@Scott id love to see your approach in a team building format. Applying the same concepts here comparing strategies (sweeper/mixed attack/weather based/stall/etc) 18:35
@Trevorkian2010
@Trevorkian2010 19 күн бұрын
Comment might be buried, but I wanted to try to encourage you to prioritize life in the work/life balance equation. We love the content, concept and execution, and you are in my opinion top in your field in the way you execute (eggsecute?) your runs and analysis. You have enough buffer to be able to not be 100% optimized. This is a marathon, not a race. Doesn't do us any good if you do an extra 2 or 3 runs with a terrible experience mon if it means you burn out and decrease overall output and more importantly joy. Take care of yourself, everything else will follow because you're awesome.
@perkypenguin1663
@perkypenguin1663 19 күн бұрын
Making another comment to post some thoughts I had about the video (spoilers below): -I don’t know how good Fury Swipes would be for Nincada, but Compoundeyes would give it perfect accuracy (technically 104% but you get the idea). Some part of me thinks it would have an advantage against Roxanne since it can hit multiple times, especially after the Rock types set up their Defense, as well as give more move flexibility in the mid game. -Shedinja seems basically impossible, but one potential way I could maybe see it winning is by setting up Double Team against Claydol, his second Pokemon. It only has 5 PP to attack with and then it does nothing, so that seems like a better opportunity than Cradily, which has an additional 10 PP on Confuse Ray. -HP Fire or Electric could give slightly more damage against Skarmory, but I doubt that taking away HP Fighting is worth it, considering how valuable the type coverage is. None of this is me suggesting that you subject yourself to more solos with Nincada or Shedinja; your video has done a great job of showing the suffering you went through. I’m just a curious guy.
@christophertomlinson8097
@christophertomlinson8097 19 күн бұрын
Scott as someone who has tried to do a Shedinja run I will say that you do need to focus on just wild pokemon that give Attack and Speed EV's as everything else is just dead weight on it.
@joeytoby1
@joeytoby1 20 күн бұрын
Concerning the next Emerald run, Gulpin is one of the very few non Grass Pomemon that actually can learn the Bullet Seed TM, so at the very least it doesn't brick wall against Roxanne
@riccardomosena4162
@riccardomosena4162 18 күн бұрын
with nincada agasint norman you could have chained dig anyway, just use dig on his loafing turn, so you are underground when he attacks and you hit him before he starts to loaf, repeat, it's simply a change of starting turn
@DirtDude117
@DirtDude117 3 күн бұрын
For just quality of life amd consistency for the videos I do think a Teleport Abra should be a 100% encounter and catch rate for you. If not, getting Mew HM Slave would also make sense to get Teleport some addtional usage. Maybe also adding a "party memebers 2-4 habe 0HP" mod to avoid whirlwind issues etc. Them you just need a 5th party member for Double Battles
@Sloopdoop
@Sloopdoop 20 күн бұрын
Playing Emerald Legacy while watching this, and I just ran Shedinja that I have no moves for. Seems quite fitting 👌
@zacluke7985
@zacluke7985 18 күн бұрын
Would love to see an evo vs run where you start as nincada in both then evolve into each
@hiei248
@hiei248 20 күн бұрын
Hum-bear-toe is absolutely wild Scott Even for a Canadian
@iskander0725
@iskander0725 20 күн бұрын
Rock Timb heard all that mess Scott was talking about it all year, and was like.... lemme show you something today. What an unfortunate start for Shedinja, man.
@dmcx-tv2308
@dmcx-tv2308 18 күн бұрын
*Love This Evolution Line!*
@CarbideTitan
@CarbideTitan 20 күн бұрын
Scott is not looking forward to Gulpin. Gulpin… I’ll see myself out.
@milkdud8993
@milkdud8993 20 күн бұрын
Out of all the Pokémon who can’t win, I’m the best - Shedinja
@BrettKolb-o9n
@BrettKolb-o9n 19 күн бұрын
I think it would to see a theoretical tier if more Pokemon can’t make it past Steven’s or other trainers without insane luck. And then just rank them by how far they got and the time it took to get there before giving up
@TJF588
@TJF588 20 күн бұрын
This would be a really interesting run(s) do do the evolution lines for. Would you do a save-state at the point Nincada evolves, or would their routing warrant differing evolution levels?
@demarge1065
@demarge1065 19 күн бұрын
huh I wonder which would be the most probable to be done first gameplay AI that mimic's Scott's ability to play pokemon games that isn't just a TAS, a Voice AI that can mimic exactly where to put Scott's phrases for the BINGO card, or an editor AI.
@elk12429
@elk12429 18 күн бұрын
I think the intention of Speed Boost on Ninjask was for players to pass Swords Dance/Speed Boost stat boosts via Baton Pass
@TheDominic1011
@TheDominic1011 20 күн бұрын
You should definitely add bars to the list of HM Pokémon that you catch, either after Roxanne or in cases where you need to grind, as part of that too
@Quirriff
@Quirriff 18 күн бұрын
it might have been more interesting if you made a run that starts with a nincada that evolves as you play. That way you start with one pokemon that doesn't take super effective damage from rock and splits into two pokemon.
@KevinMcGurk-pr1yn
@KevinMcGurk-pr1yn 12 күн бұрын
2:47 what happens if you give shedinja a focus sash?
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