Scout Motors : The Secret Sauce Nobody is Talking About

[@ProtoKyle6]

This was *the* comprehensive overview of the unveiling event I've been looking for, as well as great industry info on what the Scout Motors company has done so far. You are excellent at videos like this! Do you have any thoughts on how the rear motor (from a dual motor setup) will work with a solid rear axle? As far as I know that hasn't been done before.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

We greatly appreciate your kind words. This was one of the more tedious productions we've attempted recently and it means a lot to know that the effort has paid off for you. We hope you'll share the link to it online so others can find it. As for the rear axle, we have not been made privy to those technical details yet. We hope this video will be seen by Scout and that it will help us to gain their respect in the form of greater access to technical developments as they get closer to market. It would be a privilege to produce a first look at the factory when they start production. -Producer Tim Another EV truck factory tour (which was actually somewhat impromptu) : kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWbXop-OmJekmtE

[@deucebigs9860]

Electric with a gas generator is the only thing that really makes sense in the US market, and Scout keeping a heritage interior with real buttons instead of all touchscreens is a winner and why I put a deposit down. Can't wait to hear more about it in the coming years.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

We are not a fan of the combustion engine on this channel, but we understand why some buyers will choose a range extender. Thank you for sharing your perspective and for watching our video. We hope you'll join us for weekly EV news on our main channel kzbin.info to stay on top of Scout developments The Current (10min EV news) is at News.missgoelectric.com -Producer Tim

[@GregariousAntithesis]

Diesel generator

[@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt]

Scouts and 1st generation Broncos are two of my all-time favorite vehicles. I love what the relaunched Scout has done. My only concern is timing. They really need to get these vehicles on the road ahead of 2027! At around $50K with incentives, I'd definitely buy one. I've been involved with Edison Motors in building the world's first extended range EV semi-truck (heavy-duty vocational truck, not over-the-road like Tesla Semi, etc.). Edison's platform consists of a pure electric drivetrain with e-axles powered by batteries that are charged on the go via a 9L diesel turning a generator. This is similar to Scout's Harvester range extender. It makes all the sense in the world when public DC fast charging infrastructure isn't convenient, such as when going off-road. I read in response that this was one of your more challenging videos to produce. You did a wonderful job. Keep up the great work.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Thank you for sharing your perspective and encouragement. We hope you'll subscribe to this channel and our main channel for much more coverage of electric transportation. -Producer Tim Main Channel: kzbin.info

[@ARepublicIfYouCanKeepIt]

@@MissGoElectricIndustry Done and done.

[@invalidonlineid]

This is EXCELLENT coverage of the event!

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

It is outstanding to see that our coverage of Scout's history, products, and prospects as a company were informative for you. We hope you'll subscribe to this Industry channel and our main channel kzbin.info for MUCH more content like this. We are also on X, Instagram, LinkedIN, and Facebook. -Producer Tim

[@mowensmd]

First, kudos for one of the best coverage of an EV automotive product launch I've seen. I think losing Deiss hurt this effort, but that it's turned out the best it could in spite of that. More legacy companies should be spinning off these efforts fast as they can. But instead, most are paring back...losing battles with UAW, dealers, suppliers and oil corporations. Then the EU and US put tariffs on the Chinese who are a decade ahead which only makes them lose more in the end. Scout is a beacon of hope for a path forward for these dying gas automakers.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

You fully understand the situation. Excellent insights. Thank you for tuning in and we hope you'll join us on our weekly new show over at the main channel kzbin.info We'd love to read more of your perspectives in the comments section. -Producer Tim news.missgoelectric.com

[@Freynightwalker]

I have watched several videos on the Scout reveal. This was top teir, great video. Thank you for creating this excellent info packed video.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

We are very happy to hear that! Thank you for taking the time to share your encouraging comment. Will you consider joining us for weekly updates on Scout and other EVs on the main channel? news.missgoelectric.com -Producer Tim

[@Freynightwalker]

@@MissGoElectricIndustry just subscribed

[@EmmanuelTanuyan-n6v]

Wow that was a fantastic vid on the reveal. My son and I went with the traveler and option extender. He still owns his 1969 and I sold mine, but we both preordered so 2027 cant come fast enough. Thanks for being detailed, and as far as those true scout enthusiasts, I don’t see how you wouldn’t want one. To own a scout again but with the option of different drivetrains, it’s what scout owners love about it. And to get one that you don’t have to rebuild from the ground up because of rust lol. Yup can’t wait to wear that badge again. SCOUT owner .

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Your enthusiasm is a delight. Thank you for sharing your comment here. Will you keep up with Scout news on our main channel? kzbin.info -Producer Tim

[@dearbulls]

Wow, you made it like a traditional TV program other than a KZbinr. Great job, one of the most underrated review. However, i believe the gas tank is also in the front if you look closely into the video. Only engine at back

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Thank you for your compliment! Great observation about the fuel tank. -Producer Tim

[@jeffs4585]

As others have stated, excellent production and coverage of the complete reveal event including some Scout history and South Carolina's contributions! Very much appreciated.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

We are grateful to you for watching and leaving this encouraging comment. Please consider sharing a link to this video online. We are a very small channel and could use your help finding an audience. -Producer Tim

[@backdoormanintheend]

Thanks so much!

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

We are very happy that you found this video to be informative. Would you consider sharing a link to it on LinkedIN or X? -Producer Tim

[@razorbackpete]

Great coverage of the reveal. I really appreciated the in-depth look at the history behind new Scout's corporate structure, the insights on key employees, and the perspective on a potential public offering. Much deeper than most of the videos that I have seen. I also appreciated the coverage of the economic development commitment from the state of SC and VW as well as the details of the deal structure. On a personal note, as a former Scout II owner from my teens and college days, it’s exciting to see the brand return in a way that honors its roots. I've made my own deposit for the 2027 release and it will be my first electric vehicle. Subscribed and liked 🔔👍

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

We are THRILLED to see that an original Scout owner has found our coverage and appreciates it. Scout Motor's approach and positioning are extraordinary and we were determined to deliver the context we could not find in other videos or articles. Regurgitating press releases is fine and dandy...but for me, the fun part is learning about the motives, limits, and partnerships which don't fit into carefully crafted narratives. We hope this video offered a bit more context and a peek behind the curtains. Thank you for subscribing! You might also like to join us on the main channel kzbin.info If you would care to spread the word with other Scout owners about this video, we'd love to hear from more of you. Its just wonderful. -Producer Tim

[@nickayivor8432]

Drive Fly ride go Electic. Miss GoElectric Industry Brilliant information about Scout vehicles. Thank you very much for sharing it with us. 👍 WELL-INFORMED,Miss GoElectric Industry Take care,Miss GoElectric From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧 ⏰️ 06:53AM Good Morning 🙏 🌄

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Thanks for watching! -Producer Tim

[@highlanderapparel]

Great content on the newest contender please remember kindness is always free Eliza daily the Highlander😊

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Thank you for watching and commenting Highlander! -Producer Tim

[@davek4442]

Finally a SUV that I like that has bi-directional charging!

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

I love your enthusiasm for V2X! Our Tesla Cybertruck backs up our studio through Tesla Gateway3 and we really like the feature. The GMC Hummer EV does it, too: insideevs.com/news/656865/2024-hummer-ev-bidirectional-charging/ Kia EV9 can do it: www.greencarreports.com/news/1140803_2024-kia-ev9-bidirectional-charging-here-s-how-it-will-work -Producer Tim

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

RJ Scaringe has confirmed that existing Rivian's will support V2X hardware which they are developing to enable home backup. -Producer Tim

[@by9917]

I had one of those Farmall tractors, except mine was labeled an A. I think it was older than the 140. I rebuild the engine using oversize sleeves to make it Super C power, and added the water pump a Super C had.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

The Rube Goldberg era of ground transportation is coming to a close for most drivers. Thanks for watching this video and for sharing your story! -Producer Tim

[@melvinholland9656]

The extender to reach 500 miles is an answer for today’s range limitations. The RAM REV will debut in a few months, so the concept of on-board generator to extend range will be old hat by 2027. The Silverado EV can exceed 450 miles and R1T 420 miles….today. Battery cost will be lower and range farther in two years. The sweet spot will be 500+ miles on battery alone.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

We covered the RAM when it showed last year. We also worked with BMW Iperformance on the US launch of the i3 with the same technology almost a decade ago. Having been at the forefront, we agree that range extenders are a necessary part of the transition. We look forward to a near future in which the cost of incorporating a gasoline generator is higher than the cost of a battery pack which can offer comparable range. Thanks for joining us! -Producer Tim Weekly EV News: News.missgoelectric.com

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

at the end it allows the consumer the option with what he feels comfortable. but as battery development goes forward this might not be necessary for most of the consumers. but needed or not, some customers might feel comfortable having it.

[@HoundStuff]

Great job on the video! Did you reserve one for yourself? Did they say what cities will have the service centers? Is the tire carrier on the suv standard or an option? Seems like it will be a really competitive vehicle to me. Maybe it will push Rivian and others to move to 800v, too. Cheers to you.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

We expect the configurator to open in a year or two. At that time the options and trim package inclusions will be known. No specifics regarding 100+ retail or service locations have not been disclosed. We have a 2024 Rivian R1T and 2024 Cybertruck so our utility vehicle needs are met for a while. We didn't reserve a 2027 Scout. Terra and Traveler would be right up our alley, though. Thanks for your kind compliment about this video. -Producer Tim

[@GregariousAntithesis]

The 800B was the best looking of all Scouts. I owned two Scout IIs in my youth.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Scout is beloved. Great to see it coming back. These are two models with more to follow. -Producer Tim

[@GregariousAntithesis]

@ make one a diesel hybrid with a VW TDI engine you could get over 100 mpg and you will have a devout following. Former scout and devout VW TDI owner. Check out edison motors canada

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Would a hyper efficient low displacement gasoline generator be less expensive to build and operate compared to diesel? Would gasoline offer more refueling opportunities for buyers around the globe? -Producer Tim

[@GregariousAntithesis]

@ would a diesel generator require less environmentally unfriendly batteries and extend the range substantially. People are building hybrids backwards to many batteries. Do locomotives use batteries? No they use diesel engines to power huge generators that power the huge electric motors on the drive wheels. They are an example of rational hybrids not this insane amount of environmentally horrid and cost prohibitive expensive batteries. Hence why i said you should look into what Edison motors are doing with electric hybrids on semi tractors and pickup truck conversion kits. Supposedly Toyota is also working on something similar. You should be working to reduce the number of batteries which is exactly the opposite of what most hybrid manufacturers have done.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

My question was not related to battery size. I asked about the advantages of your preference for diesel VS the engineers decision to utilize gasoline. Our stance on this channel is that batteries are recyclable. They enable a circular domestic economy. They can be produced using abundant materials sourced and assembled in the USA. We prefer purely electric propulsion to any which integrates a combustion engine. That said, the energy density of today's batteries is not yet sufficient to replace combustion engines in every category of transportation. Automobiles with combustion engines are more complex. Thusly they are less reliable with shorter lifespans and higher operational costs. Gasoline and diesel dependence weakens the US geopolitically. Oil rigs, pipelines, and tankers leak and spill monthly, causing widespread environmental destruction. Gasoline is at least 10x more likely to cause incineration fatalities compared to automotive batteries. Combustion engines exhaust is a primary cause of cancer and asthma along for those who live or work near roadways. Fuel refinement is wasteful. It's transportation is wasteful. A very small percentage of the energy in a gallon of gasoline is covered to kinetic energy at the wheel. Even electric propulsion powered by the *minority* of our electrical grid which is fossil fuel driven is superior in every category listed above compared to combustion alternatives. -Producer Tim

[@bikebudha01]

You know what would have been REALLY impressive? Announcing they'll make an "analog" model. Power door locks, power windows, power mirrors, and analog everything else. Mechanical gauge clusters, mechanical hvac controls, etc etc. Zero other electronic bullshit. My guess it would save at least $10-15k.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

You might be surprised to learn that the economics of that might not work out as it seems like they would. That said, every niche will be filled eventually. -Producer Tim

[@bikebudha01]

@@MissGoElectricIndustry Yes, I would be surprised that there would be no demand for inexpensive electric cars... Tim, the first company to crack that nut wins the EV race...

[@petersilva037]

hmm... think they will build the Rivia R2/R3 at the Scout plant? maybe on the same line?

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Rivian recently invited us into their Plymouth, Michigan facility to have a close look at R2, R3X, and the zonal architecture hardware they've developed. During that meeting they assured us that Georgia is still the plan for Rivian R2 production when the factory Normal, IL is maxed out. We don't think the R3 platform will be a great candidate for body on frame manufacturing at the Scout facility...but we've been wrong before. We'll see if your suspicions are on point. We do think Rivian probably contribute more than only the zonal architecture and behind-the-scenes software. That user interface seemed very much like a re-skin of Rivian's GUI even though it is not IP which is publicly within the purview of the upcoming joint venture with VW. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts Peter! -Producer Tim

[@uniquenameification]

Wish they were making something smaller, like the Rivian R3. Huge EV trucks and SUVs are already available … and I would hope that by 2027 we’ll see 500 miles of range w/o a gas powered extender. But maybe it’s just me.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Did you stop watching before we showed the smaller vehicle at 17:27? This video gets better and better as we go deeper into the subject over time. I hope you'll consider watching the whole thing. 500 miles of range is a power psychological unlock for many buyers. For $100k, buyers can buy an EV with that range today. The price will certainly go down as technology advances. Time will tell if three years is enough to make a $55k 500 mile fully electric truck possible. Thank you for watching and commenting! -Producer Tim

[@uniquenameification]

@@MissGoElectricIndustry I saw it, thanks! It’s hard to take that reference seriously; it’s part of “Stage 3”, and the sketch shows only a potentially smaller vehicle under a cover 😂. Call me skeptical, but with the current vehicle lineup not slated for production until 2027, I have my doubts about when we actually see a smaller vehicle. I can’t help thinking the market for a smaller vehicle is much larger, and under served. I’m sure they did the math and decided there are bigger margins (or smaller losses) on large units. While I’d like a more rugged option, I’ll probably just settle for a small Volvo or Kia by then 🤷‍♂️. Thanks for the excellent event coverage! Cheers.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Thank you for tuning in and for sharing your viewpoint. -Producer Tim

[@RicDurant]

What about subscription apps only like Rivian? Deal killer. Android Auto FTW

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Details about the technology inside would not be helpful today. The vehicle launch is at least two years away. The in-car interfaces could be unrecognizable by then. -Producer Tim

[@bikebudha01]

Did Rivian fire some designers?

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

If you look at the original Terra from the 1970s and then you look at the Rivian R1T, it might become apparent that Scout hit the proportions first. Some might say the new Terra is truest to the old Terra. -Producer Tim

[@shazam6274]

Looks like VW and South Carolina have bet Big $ on this. They have shown a neat design, and thrown in a little PR bait with the gas generator*. Though 2027 may be a bit late, since the rest of the world is not waiting for them to start. After deliveries commence in a couple of years it will be interesting to see if they did a better job matching customers desires than the Ford F150 Lightning, which has now in paused production due to swelling inventory on dealers' lots due to poor sales. If, and when, Ford ever gets its dreamy "Blue Oval City" running, it could easily make a strong competitor with an electric Bronco or Maverick. In any case, good luck to VW, they'll need it. By the 2027, though, they could be building vehicles for their new wholly owned subsidiary, acquired for defaulting on loan payments, Rivian. 🤣 *which is a much more realistic and credible solution than plastering some solar cells on a Tricycle car 🙄.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

There are many possible futures. Thanks for watching and commenting -Producer Tim

[@barney2001]

I would think if you are interested in getting people that like the old Scout you would focus on the simple. Few screens, cloth seating etc.. With all these added features, why not just get a Rivian, unless you want something a bit bigger. The old Scout was obviously made by a tractor manufacturer and that’s what looks to be lacking in this new one. I am probably wrong.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Thank you for sharing your perspective. We hope you find this video informative week beyond the product details. -Producer Tim

[@mowensmd]

I don't think you are wrong at all. But Bollinger tried that and couldn't pull it off! It's a tough world for legacy auto to pivot...and tough for startups to compete with those so far ahead like China, Korea, Rivian and Tesla. But I too think there is a space for minimalist truck like you state.

[@johnpoldo8817]

Wow, is this the first EV to bring back the old analog needle speedometer? It looks so retro. There’s no need for a nuisance start/stop button so remove it in production units. Adding a gas engine range extender is the wrong approach. The proper way to add range is more batteries like Silverado. The primary reason for buying an EV is to avoid engines that pollute, require service, and visits to a gas station. I know this channel dislikes fossil fuel transportation.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

There is no *need* for most buttons, as evidenced by the minimalist design of the Tesla Model Y interior. That said, the audience cheered for buttons at this event. That indicates demand. If a feature generates more revenue than it costs, most executives would say the part is worth offering. The Model Y will probably remain the best selling car in the USA for a very long time and it will probably have the best profit margins. There must be EVs of every permutation in order to supplant internal combustion transportation. We are not fans of a gasoline engine, but we have conducted literally hundreds of thousands of test drives with car buyers in our work supporting EV auto makers. 500 miles is a magic range number for most drivers to consider an EV "worry free". Lucid has shown us that very free buyers are willing to pay $100k for that much range. We think a price of $55k and a range of 500 miles will increase the addressable market well beyond Scout's production capabilities. For now, the only way to meet the range and price target with an electric perfect is by harnessing a lower cost and higher density energy storage solution like gasoline to charge the batteries. By 2027 we think there will be a few companies offering batteries which will get closer to competing on range and cost. By 2030, we presume the manufacturing and operational costs associated with combustion range extenders will no longer be attractive for most applications. Thank you for watching and commenting! -Producer Tim

[@Derpy1969]

Miss Go, Scout is not back.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Derpy: We think Scout is back. 700+ employees of Scout Motors might agree with us. Volkswagen has invested billions to bring Scout back. We suspect they would also agree that Scout is back. The design and engineering teams put in a lot of effort into honoring the original Terra and Traveler while incorporating modern technology. We look forward to seeing the next generation on the roads. Hopefully you'll agree then that Scout is back. Thank you for viewing and commenting. -Producer Tim

[@fastdude2002]

Trying to sell another electric grocery getter by using the classic Scout name and reputation. We had a Scout 80 and this is definitely not a Scout, shame they use the Scout name on this rolling electric computer.

[@sategllib2191]

Well thats a huge disappointment. Bad for the environment and the diy mechanic. Plus, terrible for trails/offroading

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Opposite day! -Producer Tim

[@fastdude2002]

No actual hardcore off-roader would take an electric vehicle where we take ours. This will be good for around town, to the mall and grocery store……

[@Ken_Stauder]

Not sure why they are using the Scout brand, these vehicles are not basic or utilitarian by any means, they are not looking to make a new market, so good luck with just more over priced candy! VW great idea, horrible implementation. Redo- make these basic at $20- $25k and USA will buy em up. Otherwise just like the VW Van we have been waiting for, if it ever comes out in USA at a reasonable cost maybe VW can survive, nahhh.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

The ID.Buzz is now on roads in the USA. One of our friends is a trainer for VW and he has driven over 1000 miles in a production unit which he is taking around the country training sales teams. Scout is independent of VW. Scout is an American company. Thanks for watching and commenting. -Producer Tim

[@gregwillis9074]

We will see how popular EV’s are when the government subsidizes go away.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Will you also remove the subsidies for internal combustion automobiles, oil, and gas? Those subsidies are nearly 10x larger. -Producer Tim

[@gregwillis9074]

@@MissGoElectricIndustry what you do not understand is that without the subsidizes on EV’s their sales would be worse than they are now and they are only 10% now. Good luck with your electric car. Just don’t park it near your house unless you want your house to go up in flames. Oh, and don’t try to drive it more than a few hundred miles or you’ll be stranded in the middle of no where. And when the battery craps out in 5 years get ready to pay $30k for the replacement. I could go on but you have got more shilling for the green energy grift to get back to. Have fun with your battery powered toys.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

You are entirely misinformed on every claim. Corrections: 1) gasoline and combustion vehicles are more heavily subsidized than electric vehicles 2) gasoline powered automobiles are 30x more likely to catch fire and 60x more likely to incinerate occupants 3) electricity is 100x more readily available than gasoline in the United States. An EV can charge on as any outlet from any building or light post. Getting stranded is far more likely in a gasoline powered vehicle. 4) all EV batteries are warrantied by law for at least eight years and 100,000 miles. In 16 states they are warrantied for 10 years and 150,000 miles by law. Today's EV batteries will have a service life of 20-40 years before they are recycled. Today's EVs will go 300,000-400,000 miles before being decommissioned. That is twice the service life of a typical combustion posted passenger vehicle. 5)The cost of a replacement battery for a 10 year old out-of-warranty Nissan LEAF EV is about $5,000...not $30,000 as you've claimed. Those prices drop every year. If you want to become educated, we've published hundreds of videos to help. -Producer Tim

[@gregwillis9074]

@@MissGoElectricIndustry so how does your magic electric car save the planet exactly? Battery components are mined using slave child labor in poor African countries. Every time you charge the magic battery you are using electricity generated from at least 80% fossil fuels. Nuclear energy is actually the greenest, cleanest and safest but shills like you from the green energy grift can’t make any money with it. Again have fun living in your liberal fantasy land.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Who is taking about saving the planet? We aren't. We never have one time in hundreds if videos. We are talking about technological superiority. We are talking about domestic energy and economic sovereignty. -Producer Tim (not liberal)

[@gregwillis9074]

It’s a shame what the left has done to the auto industry. I’ll keep my 30 yo gas powered Jeep thank you very much.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

Advanced technology doesn't belong to any political party. Those who want the most power, speed, and reliability go electric. Those who want to pay higher operational costs, support foreign oil, deal with regular maintenance, and drive a vehicle with a shorter lifespan can choose 150 year old internal combustion technology instead. Politics has nothing to do with consumer choice. Capitalism, like nature itself, rewards wise and informed decision making. -Producer Tim

[@gregwillis9074]

@ when it is subsidized with my tax dollars by one political party (the left) it is political. Grow up.

[@MissGoElectricIndustry]

You'd be surprised to learn that your oil/gas provider and your combustion automobile manufacturer receive much more tax dollars subsidization than any EV company. Your old Jeep runs on TRILLIONS of tax dollars. Producer Tim (fully grown) www.imf.org/en/Topics/climate-change/energy-subsidies www.reuters.com/article/business/factbox-us-states-woo-automakers-with-17-billion-in-subsidies-since-1976-idUSKBN1AK2BI/ en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_the_2008%E2%80%932010_automotive_industry_crisis_on_the_United_States