Screen Rant Describes Two Child Murdering Villains as "Right"

[@TheRandomEpicVideos]

"Rick is an excellent grandfather." In my people's tongue, this roughly translates to "I am in great financial pain. Please help me."

[@fallenmango8420]

I'd say the same applies to the title of this video.

[@SonOfTegz]

Fallen Mango holy shit melon that’s fire damn

[@wanicki3575]

Fallen Mango I’m a little more forgiving when it’s some dude just giving his opinions out of his bedroom compared to a huge media conglomerate

[@jonispatented]

Pepperidge Farm yes, Pepperidge Farm sure would know about that, huh?

[@calvinlee8103]

Ha.

[@aquaphoenix-mt2iv]

"Rick sanchez is an excellent grandfather" *"you gotta stick these seeds WAYYYY up your butt morty"*

[@guaperryz596]

@Jesus Pabon cursed this is cursed you just made a cursed comment

[@awesomegaymer5786]

@@guaperryz596 you do know that is only slightly different from what rick said in the show (and the real version is actually worse)

[@guaperryz596]

@@awesomegaymer5786 yeah

[@TheAustronaut03]

Morty: "you're like Hitler, but even Hitler cared about Germany or something" ScreenRant: *Is this affection I hear?*

[@awesomegaymer5786]

@@TheAustronaut03 "your mom wouldn't accept me if I came back without you and your sister so now you know the real reason I rescued you" 10/10 grandfathering

[@iwantpancakes838]

It’s like they confuse “the villain had a point” with “the villain was actually the good guy” just because a villain has a good point about something, doesn’t mean they’re right in their actions. It’s the exception that makes them a villain. You can have a good point and still be a horrible person with corrupt morals and horrible actions. This is a toxic mindset, I’m glad you touched upon it.

[@Thedarkbunnyrabbit]

Basically exactly this. They've confused 'they've got a point' with 'they're right, you know'. Though in some cases they don't even have that.

[@loganhendon688]

Well not in this case, but tbh, if the villain has a point and moral obligation for their actions, it could be justified but they would have to be wrongly justified as a villain in the first place. Everything is so violently subjective.

[@memelescream4796]

for example: sure leaving someone on a planet for ages is fucked up, but so is literal genocide of humanity.

[@nathant7555]

@@loganhendon688 I agree. Everyone has a different opinion on good and evil. There is no clear good and evil. I think many villains are justified, and others I thinl just have good points

[@Xman34washere]

The best part is the name

[@tomithebunny]

"He keeps going back to Rick, so that must mean that he loves him!" man this dude has literally NO comprehension of how abusive relationships work huh

[@Raider768]

No

[@nervousbreakdown711]

Also Morty’s a teenager who lives with Rick. He doesn’t have much of choice.

[@maddox471]

Exactly Also Rick says multiple times that Morty is forced to join him

[@THEOFFICIALRCP]

are you guys braindead

[@theeccentric7263]

@@THEOFFICIALRCP Yes. U?

[@unstoppablevan9431]

I'd like to bring up my favorite quote, "Cool motive, still murder." I think it fits.

[@jasapotato8362]

Me: 99??? I: 99!

[@bibastrashcan9028]

99!

[@bibastrashcan9028]

@@fernandokan3507 it's from Brooklyn 99

[@unironic_cringe4670]

@@fernandokan3507 it's from the show Brooklyn 99

[@whaleping]

Unstoppable Van A god doesn’t worry about morals.

[@Ravenite456]

When did this "the villain is really the hero" thing start? A villain having a motive doesn't mean they're right, it just means they're not one-dimensional.

[@LadyLuckyLu]

This

[@mystic1410]

Ravenite when they started making heroes way way less interesting then the villians they go up against

[@joshuakim5240]

The entire point of villains with motives is to explain how and why they became the villains they are, not to sympathize with them. They're supposed to show that they have good points but go about those points entirely wrong.

[@mystic1410]

joshua kim The heels job is out over the face If a heel is to good or rather fo Sympathetic then what is the point of cheering for the baby face All it’s doing is forcing us to like the villain or for the hero unless you get a situation like the latest Star Wars movies where no hero or villain is likable

[@aionicthunder]

mystic1410 Having a sympathetic villain is perfectly fine. Take a look at Zuko from Avatar: The Last Airbender. For the first season, he is the primary antagonist for team Avatar. But that doesn’t prevent the audience from sympathising with him, primarily because of the reason he hunts Aang in the first place. This doesn’t reduce his ability to act as a villain, as his actions still put him against the good guys, thus making him a bad guy. Basically, my point is that being sympathetic does not make someone less capable as a villain because they can be villainous through what they do

[@secrierurobert6502]

"Proving Screen Rant is a bad channel must be pretty difficult" "No, it will be super easy, barely an inconvenience"

[@thenuggernaut9084]

Ryan carries screenrant

[@sagumosageyo943]

Ryan is the Atlas holding up Screenrant

[@ACAB.forcutie]

I hadn't watched any of their other videos so I was confused at first

[@yaelfeldman6965]

Those are the only great videos they have, and I prefer his own personal channel's videos then the ones he uploads to screenrant

[@gilliganinja]

Ryan is to screenrant as BDG is to polygon

[@TheBoeboe]

"sure he tortures him, but he cares about him" no offense to SR, but that guy sounds like every abusive girl/boyfriend ever...

[@Flutter_Aeina]

True

[@lampchild]

True

[@patrickstar796]

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[@shortsentral]

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[@pipstix5487]

rTeu

[@Marrow_jpeg]

“child murder bad” ScreenRant: It’s not *that* bad

[@noahwilliams3075]

Heck it's even kinda _okay_

[@chrisjimenez2192]

But what if that baby was Hitler, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, or maybe even Jake Paul??? 🤔🤔🤔

[@chrisjimenez2192]

@@noahwilliams3075 Lmao that actually sounds like what they'd say! 😂

[@nhagan001]

If you wanna judge on an uncertain future and kill children based on that... By all means open your own pocket dimension and do it.

[@virgilbarrios3174]

Child: *Dies* Parents: *Mourn* Screen Rant: Why are you guys sad, just make another one

[@milesd.8083]

“Rick Sanchez is an excellent grandfather” s h a r p i n h a l e

[@lishanglong6762]

*BOI*

[@Alex-rn3jv]

Have you SEEN MORTYS MONDBLOWERS

[@Predated2]

Well, he is pretty neutral. Capable of saving his life, expanding his knowledge and a lot of other things. Which are great things. Then you have the bad sides, of putting Morty in danger, "teaching" lessons, deleting his memories, a massive alcoholic, being extremely selfish etc. However, one more good thing: Morty sees Rick as a bad example in terms of human behaviour to the point where Morty ends up doing the exact opposite of Rick. Meaning technically he is a good influence. But that's like calling Hitler and Stalin a role models for us because we don't cause mass human genocide, which is the opposite of causing mass genocide. Which, again, technically is true.

[@genli5603]

I particularly like the subjective morality. You can justify any form of abuse as long as the victim isn't complaining! Man murders his wife? She kept going back to him and never pressed charges, so it's okay!

[@allyli1718]

Happle Jr BOI he’s graduated into physical abuse how excusing can people be?

[@MrBlinglord]

Their arguments literally boil down to “A murderer tried to kill me, my wife and my innocent children. However, I was in the wrong because he had motivation and a backstory”

[@shaynehughes6645]

Hey! spoilers, man

[@anidiot192]

His parents weren't great (he's 32) what he did was clearly just a cry for help!

[@alexoneilli501]

@@shaynehughes6645this movie came out in 2005. Who hasn't seen it

[@walter3306]

what is murder

[@ceoofcringe6296]

@@walter3306 you hurt someone and they fall in a deep sleep, but if you kiss them they won't wake up like sleeping beauty, so it's necrophilia.

[@henith7850]

The worst part about their Maleficent defense is that they were saying that not being invited to a party makes you justified in cursing an innocent baby into dying which makes screen rant look like those guys that are like, “I blew up a country but it’s okay because they made fun of my shirt.”

[@henith7850]

Also, that was an exaggeration but I mean being like I was a jerk but they were a jerk so it’s justified when you should probably walk away unless it’s physical violence.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

@@henith7850 Nah, with physical violence if you can get witnesses or video evidence of you not fighting back... Take their *ss to civil court and you can get a sh*t ton of money out of them.

[@elizabethb4168]

She was justifiably offended Not justified enough to curse a baby though so wtf Screen Rant

[@Nevernamed]

@@elizabethb4168 The most Maleficent would have been justified in is a strongly worded letter, and even that's pushing it.

[@elizabethb4168]

@@Nevernamed she was justified in being offended Nothing else that followed

[@matematulji]

"Why Rick Sanchez is an amazing grandfather" I've never seen a full episode of Rick and Morty and I can already tell that's BS

[@geekymetalhead5112]

I've seen the show, and Rick is a terrible grandfather

[@TOONYBOY]

@@geekymetalhead5112 I hope Screen Rant is intentionally making outlandish claims for the sake of humour, because otherwise all hope is lost.

[@DrakoVongola11]

Rick himself admits that he's a terrible father, grandfather, and person in general

[@thisyunco]

Same.

[@KitKat_293]

Matija Kopić you’re right, and he doesn’t need to be a good grandfather to make the show a good show. I feel like screen rant doesn’t know this and is trying desperately to defend rick so they can explain why they like rick and morty. I really liked rick and morty but I would never want rick in my life. his actions and motivations were interesting or funny and his passion for certain things besides family were compelling, while some of his actions and apathy for other people were downright depressing, and just a few redeeming moments, which of course added emotional weight to the show and elevated it for me. He can be entertaining while being a terrible person. Screen rant is trashy

[@Alec.V.]

4 Videos Ago: Steven Universe! 3 Videos Ago: KZbin’s Weird! 2 Videos Ago: Infinity War! 1 Video Ago: Joker! New Video: child murder.

[@sng397]

Wert's Channel sounds like the game/film theory rabbit hole

[@hornyfuckinturtle]

The Joker movie did cause murder confirmed

[@Copyright_Infringement]

We have come full circle

[@gideonjones8088]

To be fair Infinity War had a crap ton of child murder, just not on screen.

[@MykiiMescal]

Gideon Jones truuuuu

[@Greendoesart]

Maleficent: doesn't get invited to a party Maleficent: curses a child so they basically die in the future SR: THATS RIGHT

[@trishashley5018]

Is that really what happened?

[@andrewoxford1322]

@@trishashley5018 yeah, she curses her to fall asleep forever. So, basically death

[@bungiecrimes7247]

What is it with you people...small children should all be executed

[@Reptar01]

@@bungiecrimes7247 true true

[@Mr.EintheMorning]

@@andrewoxford1322 Actually she curses the child to die. It's one of the other fairies that lessens it from death to sleep

[@JP-jk2le]

"Sure they murdered a bunch of children and teachers in a school, but they were bullied so they're not actually so bad" is the logic I take from Screenrant.

[@mertarican5456]

Bad and good can be argued but they are DEFINETLY not right as Screen rant defends.

[@nra3zehuti781]

@@mertarican5456 "good and bad arent constants,they're defined by people with power"

[@alexandernyberg8668]

@@nra3zehuti781 No-one would describe killing children and shooting up a school as ethical, even if ethics are arbitrary

[@mikemikel1629]

@@alexandernyberg8668 Just because no one would doesn't mean someone couldn't

[@williamgabriel2245]

just you wait

[@MILOPETIT]

Ah yes Rick and Morty is funny because their relationship is so H E A L T H Y

[@leonardo9259]

Except Rick and Morty isn't funny

[@Clown_the_Clown]

@@leonardo9259 it was, it's simply the community that killed it

[@fakecore9811]

@@Clown_the_Clown more like one copypasta that everyone lost their shit over years ago

[@Nitrodino7875]

@@fakecore9811 well you do need a pretty high IQ for Rick and Morty. Hahahah. People are so willing to look deeply in a show that makes them look like so pathetic and pretentious. "Now you see lets examine the dichotomy of Spongebob, its clearly racist and they invade a version of Bikini Atoll." Yeah yeah, oh shit I forgot a shit meme saying "yeah yeah" existed. What the fuck is up with the internet and shitty memes?

[@fakecore9811]

@@Nitrodino7875 the "oh yeah yeah" thing was started by some edgy dickhead and continued by even edgier 14 year olds who thought it was the funniest thing ever lmao

[@limonx6778]

"Rick Sánchez is an amazing grandfather" "What makes you say that?" "Rick Sánchez is an amazing grandfather."

[@Groffind]

I didn´t even watch the show and only this clips in the video and I paused xD Didn´t look like an amazing grandfather

[@sirshotty7689]

Didn't he make Morty a drug mule to escape space tsa in one of the very first episodes?

[@Notgeks]

The fact that they literally kept repeating the same thing over and over again but just saying it in different ways😂😂😂

[@erickpoorbaugh6728]

What I got from those clips was, "Rick Sanchez is an amazing grandfather because 'good' is subjective so you're as 'good' or 'bad' as you think you are and Rick Sanchez is a narcissist who always thinks he's amazing, which means, due to the subjective nature of goodness, that he actually is amazing." So remember, kids, narcissists are always perfect because they think they're perfect. It's like someone heard about moral relativism in college and thought, "Hey, I can really get some mileage out of that."

[@IcyDiamond]

@@Groffind same lol

[@Vmar98]

"Victims of an abusive relationship are fine because if they don't like it they can just leave"

[@Roadent1241]

Vmar98 I don't like being disabled, how do I leave this life? Nearest cliff? It is ridiculous logic. I'd like to see them try to get out of it.

[@moffiiemoccha]

“Drowning?? Bruh you’re dumb, please bro, just drink the water 🗿”

[@MintToastIvan]

"Have asthma? Just breathe."

[@jessirocks-yd2eo]

Homeless? Just get a house. C'mon man just get a house, how could you ever be homeless when it's so easy?

[@jessirocks-yd2eo]

@Snoi Med Afford a trip to Paris? What do you mean afford? Just go there!!

[@mr.kingkayyy7401]

To be fair in Sid's case I don't think It's just about simply being "ignorant" but it's more about the fact that Sid doesn't have reason to believe that he's hurting anyone. In Sid's mind he has no reason to believe the things he's blowing up are more than just lifeless toys. as apose to a human or an animal with the ability to feel pain and emotions. Therefore he has no reason to value them the same.

[@KicksPregnantWomen]

hell he even ran away from the toys when he realized they were sentient, but if he didnt care about them living he woulda just came back and stomped on them because theyre still just powerless pieces of plastic

[@nra3zehuti781]

Sid is creative af bro Have you seen his spider-baby? Dude should work in horror effects

[@babygotbackpains2290]

@@nra3zehuti781 thats kinda why liked sid because i would do the same with my toys

[@somejew9163]

And in Gaston's case, sure he's a jerk, but being a jerk, does not a villain make. He basically gets killed, trying to defend his village from a monster.

[@goblinslayer310]

@@babygotbackpains2290 when I got a lego set I made some weird ass creations from it as opposed to the actual thing on the cover, so that sure make sense, dude was creative

[@jessicu511]

Character: *has motivation* ScreenRant: _is this a protagonist?_

[@TooCooFoYou]

Not defending Screen Rant, but if that person is the main character, he’s the protagonist. That doesn’t mean said character is morally good.

[@Taylor-xq9tr]

TooCooFoYou yea, hero and protagonist aren't the same word and aren't interchangeable. not defending screen rant though.

[@noddlefoodle5691]

@@ElJefeBingus Having just motivation can't make a character a protagonist . But that would imply that all characters except the protagonist would have no motivations which is dumb.

[@0ctopusComp1etely]

This got me way more than I thought it would.

[@MrSuperbeast92]

@@noddlefoodle5691 Actually a protagonist is the character that the story fallows, either from a 3rd person view or from a direct 1st person view. If amovie was done from Michael Myers, Freddie Kruger, or Leather Face's pov, tgen They'd Technically be the protagonist. Protagonist: Main character of the story, or a person who's side the story fallows from. Antagonist: A side that acts as opposition to the protagonist's side, or someone who Antagonizes them.

[@snowblood74]

"Rick is an excellent grandfather because all of his abusive actions are meant to be teaching moments." That's the kind of mental gymnasitcs of a person who'd also say "I was beaten as a kid by my parents and it didn't harm me either." to justify beating their own child.

[@oz_jones]

I hit you because I love you.

[@j.c.2240]

Isn't the point of Rick and Morty that Rick is a bad person who pushes everyone away, and he's only 'good' in comparison to other characters, which are usually aliens or something similar, trying to destroy him?

[@MorriganPickman]

Exactly!

[@Glorious_Mane]

A person who beats children saying “I turned out fine” is so backwards. No, you beat children. That means you turned out like a child beater.

[@beans1215]

GloriousMane I think you meant to say it’s the child that says he turned out fine

[@MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot]

Isn't like..... basically the whole point of the show... that Rick is abusive to his family and bad??? Like I thought him being bad was kinda the point?

[@abx_yenway]

Rick tried at least twice to kill himself because even HE knows how awful he is. How are these guys not getting it?

[@ToothofaShark]

Clearly Screenrant doesn't have a high enough IQ to understand Rick and Morty.

[@brandonbernard1570]

Well, to be fair...

[@lyricbot8513]

@Cringe Lord the Emmy-winning episode Pickle Rick was meant to expose Rick as a piece of shit that shouldn't be emulated to the audience, and instead the dumbasses started dancing on tables and yelling I'M PICKLE RIIIICK anyway, I'm interested to see how season 4 turns out

[@silvermushroom-gamifyevery6430]

@@lyricbot8513 - also, didn't the fight with the devil episode made the point a bit more subtly when rick burnt down a successful business because he didn't want to deal with paper work and rules, and was literally called "the devil" by satan?

[@mujamad3430]

While I don’t think Sid was right, he wasn’t wrong either. He was a child and children can choose the way they play with their toys, he was just playing with his toys. He would never set a real person on fire, but he can set a toy on fire cause that’s what he finds fun and interesting. No I do not agree with ScreenRant’s idiotic reasoning

[@mertarican5456]

I did that lol. It really is fun to work with motors and shit.

[@nra3zehuti781]

Hyenas did nothing wrong too, they were starving and just wanted some food , wouldnt you wanna murder your president if he exiled you and denied you good food and water??

[@iiimaskyiii7816]

@@nra3zehuti781 that's what the french did lmao

[@mikemikel1629]

It always fascinates me how people can fail to see satire when it's staring right at their face

[@shazam2044]

If you think Screenrant is bad, check CBR out. They don’t even have somebody like Ryan George to carry their channel.

[@-Nibbles-]

A character being a victim does NOT excuse their actions. Plenty of serial killers were victims of a rough home life, would screen rant argue they’re in the right too?

[@jamessong7886]

Screen rant probably backs Jaystation

[@arcticthehunter7099]

YES. Yes they would

[@dsrtpixie]

"20 reasons Ted Bundy did nothing wrong"

[@jayjaygolden5123]

Probably not because theyre real people and not fictional characters??

[@-Nibbles-]

JayJay Golden yes but I’m referring to the logic they’re using. It’s still faulty even though they’re talking about fictional characters

[@timothyblinn9734]

The genius waves get cancelled out by the uuuh.. Screen Rant waves

[@JayExci]

I desperately want to steal this joke

[@GippyHappy]

Laughed too hard at this

[@kootheshoe257]

Good job, actually laughed out loud

[@o.liveil7111]

Literally every single staff member on Rick and Morty: Rick is horrible, abusive, and not a role model Absolute Lobotomites: wow he's literally me what an icon

[@cartoonishidealism582]

To be absolutely fair... YOU NEED A REALLY HIGH IQ TO-

[@louminouz]

CartoonishIdealism N O

[@johngage4042]

The “absolute lobotomites” had my sides split

[@jmiddleton7518]

Lou Minous No, no, let’s let him do it.

[@reallivebird520]

“That comes with the territory of being the smartest person in the universe” NO. NOPE. I HATE the trope that being the worst is okay because you’re smart. Kindness isn’t dumb. You can be a genius and a good person at the same time.

[@mondohop713]

While you can be smart and kind, just look at any of the modern day geniuses and you’ll find a huge pile of dicks with a few good people. That’s not just because they’re smart, but often geniuses gain a sense of superiority through extra education and such and really a sense of superiority is the root of all dickitude

[@sorryifoldcomment8596]

Agreed. Kindness is smart. If you want people to help you, then you need them to care about you. And the one way to make sure that no one cares about you is advertising how much you don't care about anyone else. How can you count on anyone to help you if no one can count on you to help them? The only way you can consistently demand help from others is by helping them first. And being smart should be a strength. "Smartest person in the universe" portrays someone who is also strong and whose brain is not limited. But Rick is weak and pathetic. His brain can't handle caring about other people. He's not strong enough to be kind, even for selfish reasons. It's silly. If he was actually smart, he'd realize that he'd only benefit from putting effort into fostering a positive relationship with his family. That way he could rely on them to actually want to help him, not out of obligation. Shouldn't be too hard to handle for such a smart guy, no? He looks down at kindness & love as "weak animal shit." But if it requires so little effort that even weak & pathetic animals can handle it...then why does he struggle so much with it. Reminds me of the family therapy episode. Rick is so weak that he will do anything to get out of therapy... he'll take on huge challenges that involve serious physical risk and lots of "brain power"...but sitting in a room with 4 other people and just having a calm discussion for an hour? His brain isn't powerful enough for that. Ironic that he spits on therapy as "stupid" - therefore meaning it should be easy for any smart person - but literally can't handle it. 😂 Sorry /end rant lol

[@maffe_distroyer]

That writters statement keep me away for seeing the series , cause this gonna mean that everything he does is gonna be justify as something "sensical"

[@spongecakes1986]

Dear writers: emotional INTELLIGENCE is a thing and important. Can you imagine if intelligence was a cause for being an asshole? We'd literally have no doctors or accessable medical advancements because all the smart people wouldn't care about helping others. If you have ever been to a hospital you've proved your own point false.

[@QuikVidGuy]

Rick and Morty: Rick is horrible in almost every way Rick and Morty fans: Rick is perfect

[@jeremyingram9284]

Rick being evil is what makes the show so good. He isn't a good grandfather tho. The screen rant vid is just trying to jerk off Rick stans

[@oceanman7176]

Ikr the show is actually trying to tell the fans that no, rick is not a good person, but they refuse to even accept that

[@cammy1349]

Those people are so frustrating. You can love a character without approving of their actions.

[@oceanman7176]

whatever you say, curly mcjensenpants

[@cammy1349]

@@oceanman7176 What's that supposed to mean? I was agreeing with OP...

[@moonyollie6977]

They're basically a few words away from saying that "This man can't be abusive to his wife, if he were she wouldn't stay with him." They're completely overlooking the existence of power dynamics. I hope these people never have children

[@LezbeOswald]

i was thinking that the whole time. like they totally don't understand dynamics of abuse and now anyone who watches that Rick & Morty video and agrees is probably going to misunderstand dynamics of abuse too.

[@johnrankin7135]

@@LezbeOswald or maybe, just maybe, they realize that having edgy contrarian arguments is a great way to make money on KZbin because people fall for it constantly

[@houndofculann1793]

@@johnrankin7135 that doesn't exclude anything the previous comments said. Yeah they might be doing it because of the reason you stated, but it still results in the things @moxxi to the max and @MoonyOllie said

[@helgenlane]

Well, abusive relationships are kinda like a tumor. Sure, you might fail to treat it, but it's absolutely your fault for not trying to get rid of it at all. What SR was actually saying is that Rick is abusive, but it's for the greater good(which is not true) so he is good overall. That's something related to "end justifies the means"

[@AJMC82]

There's only one thing worse than a murderer! *reveals words "child murderer"* Screenrant: *gasps* A child!

[@fetal.beetle07734]

No-

[@CommissarPickle]

Children are pretty shitty

[@lamasu8060]

@@CommissarPickle your probaly a child. If not you were at one point. Either way you act like one :)

[@CommissarPickle]

@@lamasu8060 im 21 and feel no shame

[@lamasu8060]

@@CommissarPickle your 21 and act like your 3.

[@librasuperstar3779]

Also are we gonna ignore the fact that Syndrome wasn’t ignored because he didn’t have powers. It was because he was an obsessive fanboy who consistently got in Mr. Incredible’s way and in his introductory scene, snuck into his car, implying stalkerish behaviors. It wasn’t because he didn’t have powers it was because the kid was genuinely bothering Mr. Incredible

[@shatteredsouI]

I was hoping someone would notice this.

[@rjcorreia3788]

Plus he feels entitled to being a super for he has worshipped and idolized mr incredible and believes he has more importance than hr actually does, this is even perfectly captured when syndrome looks in the mirror and he is larger than he actually is implying his entitlement ( also are we not going to talk about what screen rant considers racist and what's not )

[@onyxstyx9552]

@@l4zuzis534 No, stans arent people who do this fucked shit, those people are something else, something worse.

[@vanroyal244]

How do you get that so wrong? Even I could understand that when I was like, 5!

[@clubedanarrativa5603]

Also, Mr. Incredible was trying to protect Syndrome. He told him to go home because it was too dangerous. So Syndrome killed a lot of people because Mr. Incredible told him to leave a dangerous scenario

[@tafarithehooligan]

"He had a rough upbringing and just cares for Germany."

[@BentleyS6336]

"Had he not been rejected from art school, he would be a good guy!" honestly if we follow ScreenRants logic, Hitler is just a misunderstood sad little boy who took his anger from being rejected out on thousands of millions of jews by murdering them slowly and painfully

[@IsabruhMoment]

Bentley Perry That art school must have seen all that happen and was just like... **sharp inhale** “We _might_ have screwed up.”

[@matchalatte5415]

@@IsabruhMoment actually they praised him for his architectural sketches, had he been good at math as well, the college would have gladly accepted him. But alas he lied a lot in his biography the mein kamph and didn't bother to study just attended a lot of leisurely activities

[@stevenbean9731]

Self Tessellation remember kids study your algebra or you’ll exterminate an ethnic group

[@Nukestarmaster]

@@BentleyS6336 That's not even incorrect. Envy was one of Hitlers strongest motivating factors. That doesn't make it right (in fact there is a reason that envy is one of the Seven Deadly Sins).

[@nalsium2828]

17:07 The thing that annoys me the most here is that Syndrome wasn't just being "a bit naive". He WAS seeing the bigger picture. He fully understood the damage his inventions could do, he just didn't care.

[@gregjayonnaise8314]

Simon McLuckie Yeah, plus Syndrome literally murdered about a dozen heroes before Mr Incredible. It’s not like he isn’t aware that murder against people who did nothing to you and have nothing to do with why you’re angry is objectively wrong. Syndrome may have a motivation, but he’s a terrible person who only does what he does out of self interest.

[@sinception5034]

@@gregjayonnaise8314 Superheroes in Pixar: "We're protecting the world from dangers" Syndrome: *Hello, I like money!*

[@tbotalpha8133]

@@sinception5034 Well, he was also doing it to spite superheroes, and Mr. Incredible specifically.

[@erickpoorbaugh6728]

Also, he wasn't rejected for his lack of superpowers like ScreenRant claimed (even if that was the narrative he told himself). He was rejected because he was a kid doing dangerous things without parental permission and because he constantly screwed everything up by not listening. Mr. Incredible may have been a bit brusque with him, but he was absolutely right not to let him be "Incrediboy." There's nothing to suggest that a tech-based super with no innate powers would not have been accepted had he behaved responsibly (there are plenty of superheroes like that in the comics).

[@chansesturm7103]

@@erickpoorbaugh6728 While this is 100% true, has anyone else noticed that the villains of the Incredibles universe (Bomb Voyage, Syndrome, Underminer, and Screenslaver) are all technology-based while all the heroes have actual superpowers? I find that an interesting worldbuilding aspect, though I can't really make sense of _why_ this is the case, exactly. We never see a villain with innate powers or a tech-based hero (aside from "Incrediboy"), which feels like it should mean something but I don't know what.

[@PhoeniksStorm]

They sounds like someone who's been in an abusive relationship. "Yeah he threatens to kill me and beats the shit out of me when the slightest thing goes wrong, but he's really nice"

[@lolloblue9646]

Sounds like 50 shades

[@KhayJayArt]

Yeah ....the Screen Rant guy may have been abused.... Or just fucking stupid idk. >:/

[@lexi3312]

Yeah... That makes sense.

[@disco.heaven]

Khadijah Johnson or is the abuser trying to justify terrible actions by placing blame on victims

[@Malkmusianful]

Sounds like Jasper but ok

[@Modusiticate]

very very veeeery abuser apologist-y. "they didn't mean to!" "they've had a hard life!!!" "they had good intentions!!!!!" "you made them upset, it's your fault they beat you!!!!!!!!"

[@grandempressvicky6387]

@JOHN JOHN While Arthur did have the right to kill those people who attacked him, he had no right to kill his hospitalised mother, the TV show host, the guy who he bought his gun from or the psychiatrist at the end.

[@sephandremanticore5438]

He killed the guy who sold him the gun? I obvs missed that part.

[@elvarestep3323]

You can still love someone even if they are abusive. Many people in my family I love despite them being abusive. Abuse is complicated, I would never excuse his actions, but that's not his defining trait. I do find this is often the case among families that worship one attribute above all others (intellect, athletic prowess, monetary value), as abuse is internally justified as loving, as anything that motivates someone to meet the standards of that attribute is improving them and their lives. In my family, intellect is worshiped above all else, and my grandfather is essentially Rick Sanchez (the smartest man in the universe, and a pitiable fool), which is why I love the show so much, though my family is mostly Ricks and Beths, as Summer, Jerry, and Morty wouldn't really be accepted.

[@skyshale]

Ah we love victim blaming

[@traktor420]

@@elvarestep3323 if your family is abusive then that’s just not good mate...

[@KuruttaKoibito]

"Someone who murders children, is wrong" Bold opinions only on this channel.

[@gennybaratta2460]

Meme The Fox watch out next he’s going to say hitting your s/o is wrong

[@omegamark9178]

Whoa,whoa,,let's hear the context first before we start judging,,,

[@thebuilder3594]

Or their own child, which could be abortion.

[@themultiversalassociationo9746]

@@thebuilder3594 did you just randomly bring politics into this?if so I would prefer if you wouldn't do this as politics are annoying.

[@thebuilder3594]

@@themultiversalassociationo9746 no. I'm just saying abortion is wrong. Nothing to do with politics.

[@Lenny-ue8hk]

Jay: uses 'Thanos is an excellent father' as an exaggerated example to show how stupid Screenrant is being Screenrant: "Thanos is an excellent father"

[@PrincePossum]

Lenny Lynch I love that this isn’t a joke

[@forbiddenbanana9255]

@@PrincePossum I'm not surprised honestly

[@AK-jl2wm]

@@forbiddenbanana9255 I have never even heard of ScreenRant before this somehow, but god do I kinda wish I could facepalm so hard my hand goes straight through my head and skull

[@ashes2ashton490]

screen rant is just that weird kid in history class who says “let me play devil’s advocate here” when you’re learning about the holocaust

[@ashes2ashton490]

nvm he made that joke in the video :(

[@bungiecrimes7247]

Weird?

[@h.b.smith_writer]

Exactly.

[@jakethesnake2511]

Look he didn't make it into art school

[@azure4835]

@@jakethesnake2511 BRUH

[@drangelice]

I only agree with sid because he was a lonely child. He had no idea that toys were alive and just made his fun.

[@Buddermaster567]

He did have a sister

[@yidingliu8663]

I am not saying that pathological abuse of toys is a good sign, but you are surely making an argument miles better than those shits from Screen Rant.

[@율동-s7v]

@@yidingliu8663 i mean, i did rip out heads of wwe dolls when i was a kid, set some on fire. So far, i haven't set anyone on fire yet, so i think Sid's gonna be a-okay. probably

[@Jackn17_]

@@Buddermaster567 ok?

[@Spagoooterman]

@@yidingliu8663 I used to rip the legs off of dolls (Dolls cannot do a split, it will knock their legs out of their sockets and it won’t go back in. a couple times it was accidental and while I knew what I was doing would result in the legs coming off I never did it to rip the legs off) and I’ve never ripped the legs off people or animals soooo…I think I’m in the coear

[@cursedalien]

Honestly, the part where screenrant said "sure he's cruel but it makes sense and is justified because he's so smart" made me go into maximum yikes

[@caramelcotton9450]

Being smart doesn't justify Rick's toxic actions. It's been proven that his knowledge is flawed.

[@SsScarlet78]

BIG BRAIN NEVER WRONG 4HEAD /s

[@sfc0450]

Also, Intelligence =/= Wisdom

[@SsScarlet78]

@@sfc0450 Yeah, 100% good point, i just find it funny that they thing smart people can't be bad people 😂

[@retrogamelover2012]

@@SsScarlet78 Yeah... Clearly, these people have never heard of the members of the game industry that know too well how to exploit a person's gambling addiction.

[@SuperLlama42]

Screen Rants on a jury: "Sure, the defendant murdered his wife, but he only did it after finding out that she'd been cheating on him. Therefore, he was in the right."

[@PeruvianPotato]

I bet you consider vigilante justice a crime with that scenario

[@JohnDoe-vw4zf]

@@PeruvianPotato vigilante justice is a crime so.........

[@muhammadedwards8425]

You know you could request for the government to legislate the immorality involved in cheating. Then you could sue him/her for damages. Technically cheating is emotional abuse and callous disregard for the human rights of self-determination and dignity

[@KaliTakumi]

This is actually something they'd say too

[@maceofheartz7589]

lmao people trying to defend OJ

[@lavaleader3455]

"Never click on a screen rant video" I'm sure that'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience

[@gub4941]

LavaLeader I haven’t had a watch mojo or screen rant video in my recommended for at least 3 years

[@nbucwa6621]

Yeah I have to bow out. Ryan, take my money!

[@wilddogspam]

@@gub4941 teach me your ways. KZbin lines to forget my "don't recommend this channel" choices every year or so.

[@CandS_Studios]

This comment is tight!

[@skywise8]

yeah yeah yeah

[@milkplague166]

Screen Rant is basically being held together by boogers, duct tape and Ryan George

[@biggriz2690]

Super easy, barely an inconvenience

[@itsflvckobruv6319]

Only Ryan George

[@Gage-jk4pm]

More like feces, Amy Schumer, DarkSydePhil, and John K.

[@tomer1036]

Ryan George literally voiced the 2nd video but yeah

[@Gage-jk4pm]

@@tomer1036 yeah but DarkSydePhil voiced the first one.

[@liamdude5722]

"He had a real troubled upbringing and he only did it because he cared about Germany." You know, if Hitler were a movie character, I could see ScreenRant trying to justify his actions

[@omegaheartless]

But he was a movie character at some point.

[@liamdude5722]

@@omegaheartless Not a fictional one, though. It doesnt matter that he was in Inglorious Basterds and Jojo Rabbit, he's still a real person who really existed

[@omegaheartless]

@@liamdude5722 I mean yeah, but my point was that those versions existed, and SR would definitely try to defend him that way.

[@liamdude5722]

@@omegaheartless Never thought of that

[@hayleyscomet3447]

liamdude5 I do believe there is a movie coming out like next month about nazi Germany called jojo bear or something. I know it’s a comedy.

[@Gopherzooka]

the " when everyone is super noone will be" line was in the trailer. theywatched the trailer

[@Radien]

Holy crap. You may be right. I'm not necessarily saying they didn't watch the movie. But perhaps they vaguely remembered some things from The Incredibles, so they “researched” by watching JUST the trailer. By contrast, Saberspark watched the entirety of Family Guy (so far) before making his video about what ruined it. It's not necessary to do that much every time, but you have to do *some* research to support your claims.

[@gracekim1998]

Jared Traxel I remember getting confused by that line as a kid😅

[@skylarmccune9242]

The whole “Syndrome wanted to give everyone superpowers so they could be their best selves” argument is negated by the “when everyone is super, no one will be” line. If this were to actually happen, it would be meaningless to have superpowers. Nobody could be a superhero. The whole thing is actually more instructive on the folly of trying to give everyone a particular privilege or advantage. If everyone has it, nobody has an advantage.

[@dig8634]

@@skylarmccune9242 Was that last point a slight on leftist politics? Cause if it was, you missed the point. You don't give everyone the same advantage because advantage is good, you give everyone the same advantage, because that advantage is unfair (not applicable to all types of advantage obviously, mostly just economic and educational advantages)

[@bruhjime2675]

@@skylarmccune9242 Honestly everybody having superpowers would mean that life would simply be easier. If the majority of the population could fly there wouldn't be a need for cars and thus there would be less polution, specific jobs would be created for people who want to use their powers and it would more than likely be more effective than what they had until now. This also doesn't stop geniuses and scientists from being special because understanding stuff is not really an actual superpower, while athletes would compete mainly on the basis of "who has the best control over their powers". There would be more supervillians but there would also be more people to stop them. At the end of the day Syndrome was defeated by his own creation cause he was an egotistical maniac, if Mirage didn't switch sides the family would be fucked, but so would Syndrome. The whole "no one would be special" thing is stupid and kinda narcisstic from the supers tbh. "I wanna be special" lmao fuck you everybody having powers to help on a day to day basis is a great idea, plus you wouldn't be banned from using them in public anymore which is what they want, right?

[@thefunnytvmanofthenight1537]

What is could’ve said was: all Disney villains who didn’t really have bad intentions 1. Sid He lives in an abusive family and didn’t expect inanimate objects to be living That’s the list

[@MauZangetsu]

He messed up his little sister's toys to make her cry. So no, the guy's an asshole

[@thedoggoboi1979]

@@MauZangetsu you know that siblings are kind of bitches to eachother,they fight. it's just life.

[@MauZangetsu]

@@thedoggoboi1979 Yeah, but if no one stops that behavior they stay assholes their whole life. I fought my sister a lot too, but I had limits set by myself

[@louminouz]

Mau Zangetsu Still doesnt deserve to be traumatised for life at such a young age.

[@poankiyu7664]

@@MauZangetsu tbf breaking your sister's toys isn't really villainy.

[@GabyGeorge1996]

But their argument for Shere Khan is flawed. He didn’t hate humans because they were ruining the environment, Bagheera explicitly states that he hates people “because he hates man’s gun and man’s fire” and won’t wait around for the off chance that Mowgli will obtain both those things.

[@nihili4196]

This. And honestly, if explained right, it would be a compelling argument. From his perspective and experience, Mowgli was weird exception, mostly due to growing up in the jungle, away from the humans. And he truly believed that Mowgli obtaining fire and guns was only matter of time, and since he was so familiar with the jungle, letting him live was a mistake. Shere Khan is still a villain, but his motivations are justified and, I would argue, to some extend just. Probably the only good pick from that list tho.

[@maffe_distroyer]

​@Nihili exactly! ;Btw, cool profile pic , did you happen to follow rebornlive? If you dude, i follow him! Such a cool dude!

[@Proud_Knight]

The Moral of this story is: "Never click on a Screen Rant video, because then you will give them ad revenue." ~ Jay 2019

[@hinata1ize]

But...but pitch meeting though!

[@darthtroller]

@@hinata1ize exactly, I just watch those

[@askaboutmud]

just use an adblock

[@johannesseyfried7933]

"Never click on a Screen Rant Video. Except when it is a Pitch Meeting, then click on the Screen Rant Video."

[@SammEater]

Worse than SR is WatchMojo, the kings of boring clickbait videos, I think they only lose to MatPat and his stupid theories.

[@theoptimistichippo8185]

"I mean, they just didn't let him into art school. It's not *his* fault he committed mass genocide."

[@IcyDiamond]

He was trying to improve Germany

[@ohitsrusher842]

His father abused him so iTs noT HiS fAuLT

[@lotusthemermaid]

They act as if every villain is justified as long as they have a motivation.

[@armhand97]

Painted Lotus they seem to be easily influenced by the ideas of others

[@Anonymous-zd1ow]

Motivation can make them INTERESTING, it just can't make them the good guy. That's what they don't get.

[@shoopoop21]

@@Anonymous-zd1ow Don't fool yourself. Screenrants is just the low IQ type that follow high functioning sociopath Rick types around. These people exist, and being related to them is about as fun as Morty makes it seem. The whole "on a trip, but not what you think its for" didn't return laughs for me, it was extremely sad and morbid, because that was exactly where I sat once. For me, it was my brother, who is easily the most savvy and intelligent person I've ever known, but has chased me around the kitchen with his fists as I begged for him to stop. People like the one behind screenrants are desperate for interesting people to give their lives meaning, and they'll perform all sorts of mental gymnastics in order to paint these interesting people as individuals of moral character they can and should empathise with. They absolutely need the room to excuse the sort of behavior that comes out of these people. I know because I used to do it. People allow him to use the fact that he found our father's body as an excuse to live the entire rest of his life as a narcissistic asshole who uses other people and then throws them away. When Morty says to Birdperson that "Rick isn't that complicated", and birdperson scoffs, I don't think it's meant to be interpreted wholly as birdperson being the one with insight, because that's exactly how I felt about all of my brothers orbiters once the magic wore off on me. After a while, when people would talk about him in this way, I could tell they were narrativizing and dramatizing his life into something explaining away the anti-social behavior he gets into once he gets what he wants. Everyone, including our mother believes in what can only be described as a purposefully constructed narrative which carefully explains away any of his personal responsibility in life as something we can't expect from someone so "horribly torn up inside".

[@shoopoop21]

This is actually why I love R&M, because of the subtext about discovering someone you love and look up to is a narcissist that will never reform, and happily leave you totally empty, and then falling out of this love. For me, this is why the newer seasons don't work as well, because they're functioning less and less as vehicles for dispelling Ricks mystique, and more as something to build his grandiosity. Vindicators is a perfect example of this, because while it does attempt to deconstruct Rick, it does by painting him as hyper capable, destroying the opposition in a drunken stupor, as opposed to doing something so outlandishly selfish, it causes us to double take. A much more "season 1 take" would have been something like bushwacked adventures. Say he meets the big bad, has the vindicators and the big bad partying, and somewhere down the line, Rick kills the big bad over something stupid and trivial after the audience has just gotten used to this new status quo where everyone is acting totally fucking possessed by ricks personality, and "who gives a fuck" spirit, which these types of people bring out in others.

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

I guess Kingpin should have destroyed New York and potentially the whole Universe with his unstable Portal Generator because he lost his family. Can't you see that he is the TRUE hero?

[@trianglemoebius]

Dude, my father was legitimately abusive to myself and my sibling. We're talking physically, verbally, and in some cases in another way too. My mother was also complacent, beaten into submission by this monster of a man, to where she was psychologically unable to raise a finger against him. The stuff they are saying in this video is sometimes almost *word-for-word* the kind of rhetoric my father would use to justify his actions. "I'm just doing to make you stronger." he'd say after a beating, or some other justification of why his intentions were good so it didn't matter what the outcome was. "Obviously you don't mind it that much, you stick around". he's saying, ignoring the times one of us would try to run away. And, of course, the ever present shift of blame in: "If you had just been a little nicer, I wouldn't have to have done this", which would be used to justify literally any horrendous act. If the writers for this show are being genuine in their beliefs, and not just writing ragebait or something, they are sociopaths, and if they have families, the authorities should be called to check on their domestic situation. These are legitimately terrifying viewpoints for a human being to have.

[@gangisspawn1]

Sexual abuse too?

[@edgarallenhoe3518]

My very generous interpretation of this video is that it's just clickbait. They came up with the title first and then had to cobble together a bunch of nonsense to justify the title.

[@maffe_distroyer]

Im sorry pass through that, hope you have a safe place now

[@skylarsaysstuff]

Same

[@trianglemoebius]

@@maffe_distroyer I do! My sibling and I have since moved out and moved on, and we're both living our best lives. I'm married, and a father myself while my sibling has their dream job as a creative coordinator on various projects!

[@poorlybus417]

Saying the tiger is correct is like saying: “A dog bit my hand, so it is okay that I murdered a random puppy.”

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

Poorly Bus, apparently to ScreenRant it is.

[@TheTheninjagummybear]

Lots of people now believe in punishing people for the actions of others that they had nothing to do with.

[@chillin5703]

Except consider that that was one dog vs every dog you’ve ever seen, and that dogs are not consantly biting peoples hands. If they had done that; we would’ve considered them a dangerous nuisance.

[@PenguinWithInternetAccess]

@@TheTheninjagummybear I mean, it exists for a long time Like, in the greek mythology, gods go like Hey, you've banged my husband, time to ERADICATE AN ENTIRE ISLAND

[@lastmanstanding7155]

@@PenguinWithInternetAccess It's mostly fallen out of favor in the western world but is gaining populairty again for no reason.

[@missamieholly2313]

"You're like Hitler, but even Hitler cared about Germany, or something."

[@minecraftmarioboy5012]

Lol

[@randomtechpriest]

Accurate

[@autismman6360]

True

[@sephandremanticore5438]

Accurate up to and including the fact that ulimately did not care about his country or his people. His actions were plainly all personal and self-serving.

[@kimifw58]

Where's that quote from?

[@taliarogers4496]

"Motivations and tragic backstories never excuse someone's actions." Screen Rant: This can't stop me because I can't read.

[@dr0g_Oakblood]

Tragic backstories work best when paired with heroes that have similar ones to the villains, and you can play off that contrast.

[@maikeruasmr8591]

They do explain them and sometimes they are excusable and justified. Depends on the actions and the result of said action.

[@Orange-wf8wh]

420 likes lol

[@jacearmor5274]

Tell this to Reylo shippers and all who think evil characters with sad backstories are "baby:

[@battlesheep2552]

It also helps when it helps explain their point of view, like with Magneto, him being a holocaust survivor means that he’s experienced the worst of humanity and is justified in believing the same happening to mutants is inevitable.

[@welcomefire]

To be fair, Sid is actually justifiable, as that "ignorance" was... about something that was purposefully hidden from him, and very reasonable to not know.

[@inactive8814]

"Rick is a good grandfather!" Dude, the creator has stated that Rick's a bad person. It's fine to like to his character, but also these insane dudebros that see him as some awesome role-model are either batshit crazy, plane stupid, or have no morals.

[@theonewhowearscrocs8591]

Sparkledog Vomit or Screen Rant was really, REALLY high when they made that video

[@AndaraBledin]

@@theonewhowearscrocs8591 I think they just were having a slow month, so they needed something to spark controversy so people would be talking about them and increasing their mindshare on KZbin.

[@mrtimtom6947]

“Plane stupid” that’s pretty ironic.

[@Predated2]

Well, if you go into technical territory, yeah, technically Rick is a "good" role model to Morty. Just like how marmite is technically a "good" sandwich spread. Or how Rattata is a "good" Pokémon. Or how forks are "good" spoons.

[@renx81]

There's actually 2 creators for R&M. But yeah, they have expressed their concern over the fact that some fans seem to look up to Rick even though he is clearly one of the worst people imaginable. If you look at the new season (first 5 episodes of it anyway) then they are clearly doing meta-commentary on the issue and also making it really unambiguous what a piece of shit of a person Rick is and how his influence is corrupting Morty.

[@fluffnugget1812]

Rick: Im going to kill everyone except you and your crush, morty. Morty: what- uh- no? Screen Rant Guy: god I wish this was MY grandfather

[@Mermiam]

I mean if it wasn't you'd be dead and without poontang. So in that circumstance yeah call me a sanchez.

[@tastyloaf5487]

"Whenever you want to argue against something being popular and therefore good, you can turn to Screen Rant...." *I like this already.*

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

EXACTLY

[@SangerZonvolt]

Depends on you definition of 'good'. Good as in moraly right? No, but I have never seen anyone make that argument in the first place. Good as in entertaining or successfull? Thats a bit harder to argue, isnt it?

[@lake4433]

Now this...…………does put a smile on my face

[@Joshinken]

“Morty stays with rick, so clearly he values him and that means rick is a good grandfather” is an excellent piece of logic that can easily be extended to mean that 98% of abusive partners are good people because their partners stay with them and love them

[@michaelstrong5383]

There's a line from the Incredibles that I consider to be very underrated: "Valuing life is not weakness, and disregarding it is not strength." That alone shows how Syndrome's plan is wrong, but Screen Rant just ignored all of that and was like "bUt WaS sYnDrOmE iN tHe RiGhT??"

[@spencerbowden2979]

Of course syndrome was in the wrong. He sold weapons to criminal organizations resulting in who knows how many deaths all so he could satisfy his petty grudge.

[@tonyg9775]

basically what SR is trying to do is raise controversy and make ppl watch their videos, no matter how feeble their arguments are. most of their videos are dirty jokes in disney movies or cartoons, and with the same type of clickbait thumbnails, and most of the time they repeat things in their videos.

[@briankenney9528]

It kills me that people think Rick is a good guy when he is literally written like the worst person ever

[@joshuarichardson6529]

People have trouble distinguishing between a Protagonist and a Hero these days. The two are not synonyms.

[@Elf_Pyro]

@@joshuarichardson6529 nobody thinks hes the hero

[@skelskeleton]

Well screenrants apparently

[@TNTITAN]

See Mad Men, Breaking Bad, and The Shield for further examples.

[@KingOfGaymes]

But He MaIN cHAraCtEr and FuNNy PicKlE mAn

[@T-Jex]

Imagine missing the whole point of a character so hard you literally get to the opposite conclusion of said character.

[@reallyidrathernot.134]

"Always ends up safe in the end" the show's INTRO literally has morty being left behind to be eaten.

[@sorryifoldcomment8596]

Exactly. The only lesson that Morty (and therefore the audience) learned from that, along with basically everything Rick does, is that he can't trust Rick to keep him safe. He definitely can't expect Rick to be a good grandfather. It's hilarious that they reference Morty surviving (physically) as a point in favor of Rick. Rick doesn't save Morty...the writers do. Morty should be dead just from the intro. Broken legs is one thing but getting eaten and devoured by an alien beast is another. But if he dies, then the episode can't happen! Morty is only "safe" for as long as the show "Rick and MORTY" continues to produce more episodes. Sorry /end rant lol

[@talic-os5899]

Point of the show: This character is a horrible person. Screen Rant: But that's fiiiiine

[@amsie02]

"Rick purposely made Morty break his legs to teach him a lesson, so that makes him a good grandfather!"

[@TheRandomEpicVideos]

Did Morty ever break his legs again? Exactly.

[@forbiddenbanana9255]

@@TheRandomEpicVideos But if Morty is dead he can't possibly break his legs again ever again

[@ileryon4019]

@@TheRandomEpicVideos you bring a good irrefutable point

[@TheRandomEpicVideos]

@@ileryon4019 Yes, I often destroy people with FACTS and LOGIC

[@aa-xj8os]

Video Critic *B* ruh

[@user-ge4ue7bn5x]

Villain: is written well and has a motivation instead of just doing bad things for the sake of being evil Screen Rant: yo he kinda got a point tho

[@JamieIsJammed]

It's ridiculous how many people think that having a good motive means being a good guy.

[@JokerCrowe]

I also don't like the argument that "he's the most intelligent person I the universe, so being a bad person probably comes with it". It comes with the implications that high intelligence somehow leads to bad/ immmoral behaviour: as if intelligence somehow causes a person to lose humanity.

[@autumnkoalefant]

Yeah, like they really missed the whole point of the show, rick is a genius but he’s miserable because he doesn’t care about anything or anyone. Intelligence will be meaningless and unfulfilling if you’re a terrible person. The show has so many episodes explicitly about this it’s truly amazing that someone could watch the whole thing and not notice that.

[@DylanJo123]

Probaby a sentiment that really shitty people, that would like to think that their misery is a result of their intelligence instead of their unpleasant character, would hold.

[@prince_nocturne]

Well, it does cause people to lose FAITH in humanity, and that's almost the same thing, right?

[@DylanJo123]

@@prince_nocturne We can play some semantic games and say you shouldn't have Faith in humans in the first place, If we're taking the dictionary definition that is. Doesnt mean one is justified to hate humanity or spread misery. If anything, if you're smart, recognize the world is shitty, and have means to make it better, one should be out there being the change they want to see.

[@prince_nocturne]

@@DylanJo123 Oh, I'm not saying that having a higher intelligence means you should *HATE* all other human beings, no. That's dangerously close to sociopathy. No, I'm just saying that it's a rough time when you are constantly the smartest person in the room without trying. But being the smarter one means you should (not have to, but should) at least try to better others somehow. Educate them even in just some trivia, use your intelligence for furthering the race in some way, or just generally try to use your intelligence to actually do some good. Not to, say, put entire dimensions at risk or eradicate species entirely just because you're a bit bored.

[@tristanseaver9054]

Of course attempting to murder children is wrong. Don't leave a job half-done.

[@decidueyezealot8611]

Attempting is wrong succeeding is not😀😀😀

[@elmesfamily8220]

indeed

[@bloodybutterflygaming1242]

😂

[@catgirlyuri]

John Toas this video has nothing to do with abortion, do your parents monitor your kiddie tablet?

[@jonathanklinker5192]

XD

[@Jurassic-yz8er]

The whole “Rick is a good grandfather bc Morty spends time so much time with him” and “rick is teaching morty lessons so it’s ok” is utterly ridiculous. Looking past the time that morty LITERALLY TRIED TO KILL RICK BY SHOOTING HIM IN THE HEAD, the fact of the matter is that this is an abusive relationship, and morty seems to spend time with his grandfather so that his other family members don’t, almost like an abused spouse not wanting their partner to be near their children. You could argue that’s alittle far fetched however (despite morty going out of his way and risking his life to show summer how awful he is and how he shouldn’t be glorified). What i think is undebatable is the fact that there is clearly a bit of Stockholm syndrome going on. Just like in abusive relationships, the person being abused is convinced that deep down, their abuser (whether it be “significant other” , parental figure, or “friend”) truly loves them, and is only doing it because it’s what’s best for them. “He’s only hurting me because how else will I learn” is one that I’ve legitimately heard a few times when being with actual victims of these environments. Ricks “horrible, painful, but ultimately important lessons” you glorify are on the same caliber as a man beating his wife for not having dinner ready fast enough. Good job screenrant

[@switchplayer1016]

Plus Morty might just not want to die. He's seen Rick burry his own corpse the way most people take out the trash. He knows if he pisses rick off to much he'll just leave him behind next time he fucks up a universe. Or any number of horrible things a man who's only consistent trait is "as long as I live fuck everything else" could do to a person.

[@lividsphincter4098]

Also, Rick is the only person in his life who pays attention to him. Even if it is abuse it's still something.

[@fv2977]

Most clickbait doesn't have any worse consequences than wasting time and drawing attention away from better content. But the "Rick Is A Good Grandparent" video could have a serious negative impact on someone's life. Even though SR are only doing it with fictional characters, trying to justify an abusive relationship like this normalises it. Someone in a real abusive relationship could see the video, and leave a bit further away from realising the truth of their relationship. It's the same reason I despise unskilled writers who unwittingly put their characters in abusive relationships.

[@lyricbot8513]

@@fv2977 Screen Rant videos written and narrated by Ryan George are the only ones worth your time. The rest of the channel has a completely different vibe when he's not around.

[@fv2977]

@@lyricbot8513 I have no intention of pushing up Screen Rant's numbers, no matter who's writing it.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Sid wasn't in the right but he wasn't a villain. He was mean to his sister, that's his worst crime.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

_The DCEU is the heaviest topic of them all_ LMAO, that intro already made me laugh

[@nhagan001]

Same. 5 seconds in and I already feel we need an ambulance for the DCEU again.

[@autismisuncontrollable4925]

30 seconds in and my side's are already in orbit and I want to kick Jay.

[@KhayJayArt]

"Child murder is wrong" "Why would say something so controversial yet so brave?"

[@xVIIRx]

69 likes, nice

[@maomao6023]

@Khadijah Johnson Why say something uneducated so brave

[@patrickriarchy6054]

Wait, It is?.

[@jonathanklinker5192]

XD

[@trashman3319]

"Since he holds himself in such high regard he would probably think he's a good grandfather" Isn't there several points in the series where he acknowledges that he is a terrible person and in the frupyland episode doesn't he even say he is a terrible father to Beth? Also Mr. Incredible didn't reject Syndrome as a sidekick because he "didn't have superpowers", it was because he was a kid and he didn't want him to get hurt.

[@TOONYBOY]

Yeah, the hero had motivations, so that makes them the good guy. Wait, why didn't they use that logic on the good guys?

[@LendriMujina]

Also because Buddy was actually screwing up the mission. A mad bomber got away because of Incrediboy's overconfident interference. I think that's a pretty good reason for Mr. Incredible to be not the nicest with him.

[@Crochetems]

Trashman33 The “he thinks he’s a great grandfather therefore he is” point is such awful logic I don’t even know where to begin. Apart from what everyone else is saying that Rick doesn’t even actually believe he’s a good person to begin with, you’re not just what you believe to be. And what happened to the “actions speak louder than words” bit he used to justify Morty sticking around to endure Rick’s abuse??

[@MySicknezz]

Fuck you, Syndrome had the right to kill all those people ane destroy a city because he got rejected by Mr. Incredible

[@sourpuss5951]

Not only does he acknowledge the fact that he's terrible, he straight up sees the traits that makes someone care about their family as toxic because it makes him act irrationally and makes him want to put their needs over his wants. Did Screenrant not watch the spa day episode?

[@toongrowner1]

screen rant: "Syndrom didn't see the bigger picture" Syndrom: "When everyone is super, no one is" Me: "How did he not see the bigger picture?"

[@johannpoitras6010]

All I can think of is that vine "There's one thing worse than a rapist. Boom." "A child" "No"

[@myellatorres2110]

lmaooo

[@eldenemerald7962]

The one by Brandon Rogers? Lmao

[@strebicux6174]

@@eldenemerald7962 no, the office

[@johnd3421]

@@strebicux6174 It's by Brandon Rogers

[@strebicux6174]

@@johnd3421 ok I thought it was the office

[@snackman3128]

Decent person: Is child murder bad? Screen Rant: *_well yes, but actually no_*

[@miraculouseveraftersforeve91]

@John Toas abortion should only be an option for rape victims. That's it.

[@natesal5037]

John Toas It’s only murder if it’s illegal

[@PeeperSnail]

Yeah Gaston abused his influence over the town and was a raging misogynist, but the town loved him! Not a bad guy!

[@porchugawhale9938]

Alma Martinez But nobody has hair as great as Gaston!

[@patrickriarchy6054]

Nobody chases the cooze like GASTON!.

[@emeraldsky2823]

Nobody Gaston

[@SpiderandMosquito]

Of course Gaston is the hero because he tried to rescue Belle from her Stockholm Syndrome hahaha f*** You f*** You f*** tha f*** you f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** f*** *inhales* *releases* Okay I'm done

[@deusvermiculus1072]

@@SpiderandMosquito to be quite fair, Gaston really only wanted to do the right thing. He was just too narrow minded to see past his own desires.

[@prismic_]

“Attempting to murder” 😐 “Innocent children” 😯 “Is wrong” 🤯

[@traktor420]

Ngl I agree, I know it’s a bit of a hot take but still....

[@edgarallenhoe3518]

Tbh even if the children at guilty of something, most of the time that's still wrong

[@alaskaball188]

"He had a really troubled upbringing and he was only doing because of how much he cared about Germany "

[@snovaspectre2]

Oh no

[@eyelandss]

@@snovaspectre2 The Jews just didn't need to know what was happening so that the world would be a better place

[@SenorFluffy]

Uh oh

[@kidd9936]

Ngl. Ya got me

[@alexandersturnn4530]

Unfortunately, that is literally the Argumentation some people use to defend him and his actions.

[@myellatorres2110]

"Rick is a good grandfather" Rick is my favourite character in the entire show and i can admit he isn't a good person

[@RandomPerson-gt1jt]

Right? Rick is entertaining, he's a well written character who makes the show what it is, and he even has his sympathetic moments. But that doesn't mean that he is a good person. He isn't really supposed to be a character we identify with, if anything we should identify with Morty, as he is meant to ground the show and realizes how messed up Rick and his antics are. I love Rick, and I respect the writers as it takes a lot of work to make someone who is a huge jerk still entertaining and likable. Sadly too many people confuse that likability with him being a good person or him being in the right.

[@myellatorres2110]

Couldn’t agree more

[@arrg6059]

👏👏👏

[@MauLerYT]

But how many children did screen rant free from slavery? Perhaps it balances out... This is quite a deep meme, how terrofying.

[@lucebelmont]

The ShitPosting is strong with this one.

[@justjuol3703]

“So yeah, I didn’t get an invite” “Girllllll, so what did u do” “I stole their child” “.....”

[@NintendoAQ]

“He starved most of his population, but he did it because of his love for Russia.”

[@vivimos_en_una_sociedad7758]

1312

[@heroomori3819]

Which one?

[@benhawk4214]

@@heroomori3819 stalin

[@heroomori3819]

@@benhawk4214 No I was joking when I said "Which one?" cause Russia has had several rulers that did that

[@kimjongunofficialyoutube]

Ben Hawk woooosh in the wild

[@birdiejett3163]

Wait, I wanna get in on this Disney Villain thing: “I know Judge Frollo SEEMS like a really bad guy, but THINK ABOUT IT. From his perspective, all the Gypsies did was steal and murder and worship Satan. Wouldn’t Paris be better off without them? And it might SEEM pretty horrible that he wants to murder Esmeralda for being attractive, but you have to remember-he’s a deeply religious man, so lust is a grave sin in his eyes. Sure, he may have lashed out a bit too violently all things considered, but can you really blame the guy?”

[@SangerZonvolt]

Yeah, the difference between explaining and justifying.

[@thejemstone9219]

Well, now you put it THAT way...

[@Jack_Arbor]

I can’t blame him, I’d want to clap those brown cheeks too

[@altromonte15]

@Aberdeen Harder to be fair, the famine was hardly scar's fault, lions don't really have any power over the weather.

[@altromonte15]

palpatine was right because he had to protect the government from the jedi betrayal. He was a hero of the republic.

[@dekucake]

Screen Rant: "Rick Sanchez is an excellent grandfather" Me, a person who hasn't even seen Rick and Morty: *I'm gonna stop you right there*

[@badoem5353]

Should see it, it’s wonderfully fucked up 😏👌

[@blueblueblueb]

the only people who like rick are dudebros who believe that whole “empathy and feelings make u WEAK” shit

[@user-tl9gp4dn4q]

Haven’t seen it either but same

[@PeruvianPotato]

To quote a wise man "If you haven't seen it, shut the fuck up"

[@folbykleetwood7462]

@@PeruvianPotato that's a bruh moment

[@Creepyslandofdreams]

character: has a motivation even if it was wrong screen rant: BuT aCtUlLy

[@Datawraith-qo7gn]

"Why didn't they just invite Maleficent to the party?" Probably because Maleficent loves to curse entire kingdoms whenever she doesn't get her way, as shown by the movie.

[@bruhjime2675]

Maleficent was the best in the original animated movie cause she was just an evil scary bitch that probably gave many children nightmares, giving her a sad backstory was wack.

[@kaylaklimas6058]

Don't invite and party goes right: get cursed Don't invite and party goes wrong: get cursed Invite and party goes right: don't get cursed Invite and party goes wrong: get cursed Screw it, may as well invite her. It's not like not inviting her is going to get you not cursed.

[@torva360]

Also... that's not how royal birth announcements work. They're exclusive events. No peasants allowed.

[@cossaizy6309]

@@bruhjime2675 at least the retelling made her redeemable, Rick hasn't done anything to redeem himself

[@awsomeguy37]

@@cossaizy6309 I'd argue that she isn't as much redeemable in the retelling as much as the people around her suck significantly more so she's better by comparison. Even in the one scene which would have been her redemption, she suddenly doesn't know how her own magic works and can't break the spell. Otherwise, yeah, Rick is an asshole and the show does basically everything it can to say that. People just like him for the cynicism and use "he's the smartest person alive" as justification for "being a cynical asshole must be smart".

[@tilagonzales4507]

"He did that because past interactions made him prejudice." "They shouldn't have done that to her because that's prejudice." *Wot?*

[@alyissaaragon6943]

Good catch.

[@MrSuperbeast92]

@@Goldilush they said both things at different points.

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

@@Goldilush Shir Khan's prejudice towards Humans was justified while the Kings who didn't invited Maleficent wasn't

[@tylerwerner291]

@@PancakemonsterFO4 The irony of your name being Brainbot is incredible...

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

@@tylerwerner291 just explained the painfully obvious double standart

[@nothingkillsamanfasterthan5732]

"he had a really troubled upbringing, and only did because he really, really cared about Germany" I'm dead

[@kitkatstudio]

I'd like to point out that Screen Rants put Hades form Disneys Hercules on there list of villens that had a point. You know Hades the guy that attempted to kidnapped and attempted to murder his new born nephew. Personally I think that one is the most "yikes" of all the exampels

[@soggyflipflop]

Don’t forget about how he set free the Titans who probably killed thousands of townspeople and set off to murder the gods. :)

[@dylaxiusmccoy]

"Never click on a Screen Rant video because then you will give them ad revenue" *Laughs in Adblock*

[@benheinz8817]

You will also waste 10 minutes of your otherwise valuable life.

[@hashvendetta7226]

Doesn't that still give them numbers to justify their ad revenue?

[@Kikol10]

More like, “Rick Sanchez is a horrible grandfather and person, but sometimes has moments of giving a damn.”

[@bethsims981]

It’s not Syndrome’s fault, he was just feeling some type of way

[@LOC-Ness]

he was just vibin'

[@elmesfamily8220]

@@LOC-Ness Bruh, Syndrome's entire plan was just a vibe check. deadass

[@VincentGonzalezVeg]

it was a psychosomatic syndrome

[@BobbyLewis]

He is defending bad people because those bad people had bad things happen to them. So the Columbine killers are in the right because they where bullied.

[@JamesLawner]

Syndrome was doing Syndrome-like things! 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@purplehaze2358]

I find it extremely fitting that a corporation specifically built to exploit the hell out of an algorithm that screws over other content creators who actually try have a poor understanding of morality and ethics.

[@saylemevelyn]

“Acts a little recklessly from time to time” *snorts line of drugs*

[@jamessong7886]

Gets into wars and destroys universes

[@Romanticoutlaw]

if loving a parental figure who puts you through needlessly cruel life lessons made them a good parental figure, I'd have a good mom

[@dahlrjay63]

Damn... I'm sorry to hear that.

[@TotalHuman]

Me: * in reference to my dad* HE IS THE MESSIAH!

[@giannayoupel5575]

Yikes I felt that

[@patrickstar796]

Oh, sorry my dude. I hope your ok

[@0amburgh063]

dayum dude you alright? wanna talk about it? if u do im all ears homie

[@whoareyou1034]

"He had a rough upbringing and he really cared about Germany." I wonder who he is talking about?

[@TheRandomEpicVideos]

Schindler of course

[@peanutbrainedbuffoon7913]

Hadolf bitler of course!

[@theystolemyteethpleasehelp3528]

Y'all dumb. It's obivously Adliodoh Haltir.

[@jonahheins8998]

Probably the most famous politician associated with Germany. Otto Von Bismarck

[@The_Stumbler]

Adoliphin hitter

[@robobo1726]

Screenrant: 10 MOVIE CHARACTERS WHO HAD MOTIVATIONS!!!!!