MANDALORIAN Season 4 - What's Next After the Season 3 Finale? - Thrawn and Gideon Return EXPLAINED

[@ScreenCrush]

What do you want to see in season 4?

[@LovecraftBur]

Boring Fett I mean a Boba Fett cameo

[@PerfectlyUselessComment]

​@@LovecraftBur Boba Fett is badass in S2 when not starring in his own show....

[@BoweDiesel]

I want the Dins to discover something important about palatine’s new life, hopefully something that the Bad Batch sacrifices themselves for in order to uncover for anyone who looks.

[@aquan3315]

Ezra is working with Thrawn to stop the Grysk as a plot twist for Ahsoka!!!

[@reaper6765]

If Gideon returns in S4 it will be a long Force Clone of Gideon then Din Grogu will force F him up and that clone will be Snoke

[@ashenbreese]

i'm so happy to hear thrawn addressed in the context of the new novels. the grysk issue has been so overlooked up until now. they didn't just write six novels and bring on timothy zhan as a consultant to ignore all of that.

[@murphybegood]

Well said! I've literally thought the same thing the last few weeks as more and more KZbinrs talk about the 'big bad' of this whole Mandoverse time period.

[@nathandts3401]

Vanto turning to the Chiss had me predicting good guy Thrawn whenever the book came out. Ezra is just chilling with Sky Walkers at the moment.

[@elphiegleason3899]

Of course they had to consult Zahn He creates the character

[@101spacecase]

wow did they sweet thanks for infos yes I loved these audio books

[@jonmabe254]

It would be a mistake not to make the grysks the big bad. It's such am interesting realm to explore

[@grapplix7633]

I hope Din Djarin in season 4 will not say: "Somehow Moff Gideon returned"

[@calvinsallee]

Honestly I hope he says it but it's used as a joke in some way to make fun of themselves lmao

[@Therelaxedgirlguide]

🤣

[@Berk_lays]

Oh naw Disney making characters not die bro. having robotic stomach no way and I swear if he's alive this is the way

[@garyfrombrooklyn]

Now that you mention the Grysk, it’s possible they will emerge in Skeleton Crew. If that’s the case, the Anti Hero theory of Thrawn would play out. He and the Chiss, partnered with the Mandalorians would be handling that threat in the outer rim / unknown regions. Which is a breath of fresh air in Star Wars

[@kennethjackson4716]

I’m starting to notice a thread possibility this season which, if I’m right, is a very gutsy and possibly genius story telling move on Fav-loni’s part, especially going forward. They could use the Dins as our view into major Galactic events from the viewpoint, not of the “main” character (Bo, Ahsoka, the Skywalkers, etc.) but rather from the eyes of a pair of extremely competent “support” characters who come in, help the “heroes” resolve their conflict, and then ride off into the sunset and the next adventure. That way they can “cross paths” with, say, Sabine or Boba, or even Po or Ray, help them, and move on. In season four of “their” show I can see them taking various missions that lead to them uncovering information leading up to the Thrawn movie. They will also come across things needed for their own growth like a Holicron for Grogu’s training as an example. I see them being to the Mandoverse what R2 & 3P0 were to the Skywalker Saga: the eyes through which the shows are shown. The possibilities are endless.

[@natrix0518]

@Dana White's Cocaine Dealer It seems like OP's saying "not a main character" as "not directly involved in main storyline events." Obviously, The Mandalorian is about Djarin and Grogu so they're the main characters of that show. However, they're not really Main Characters of the Skywalker saga timeline as a whole.

[@LosMuertosNegros]

@@natrix0518 Yes, absolutely agree.

[@LosMuertosNegros]

Extremely well put. I love this take on it. It is a way to see the Star Wars world through the "side character's" point of view. It is a great world-building, a la Rogue One.

[@chriskoshinski]

And do nothing while the 1st order takes over? Never even to be mentioned??? The only logical answer is them dying

[@blablablaa14]

I don't think Ray will ever be involved again

[@justfellicitya]

I just realized that Grogu's connection to animals means he might be talking to his froggies before they become nom-noms 😵🐸

[@MarktheAirsoftPrimate]

He’s diabolical with it “Hi, Kermit. I’m gonna teach you to fly….and you’ll fly into my tummy acid for noms”

[@auroraglacialis]

I cannot believe that you did not yet made a "Somehow Gideon returned" meme. Because this is honestly what I immediately thought when the theory was put out that he supposedly could be a clone. And I cannot imagine that you did not think of the same ;)

[@chiprodda2634]

Exactly what I felt. Mando will incorporate Rangers to the show instead of a separate show. Love it!!

[@SwaggerLikeUz]

The Grysk being the ultimate "Big Bad" in The Mandoverse film would be amazing! Finally a major SW project that explores new threats in the SW Universe we haven't seen in live action.

[@sunshyne_8624]

Thank you for not beating up season 3 of the mandolorian. I'm so tired of people saying how bad it is. They are telling a story, so not every episode is going to be "thrilling". I appreciate it.

[@Jamesbout83]

to be fair they did their best but it could have been way better if not for the evil Kathleen Kennedy. I heard all the bad decisions this season was her when she still had full control. Apparently Dave and Jon now have full control as of the Ahsoka show this summer. take it with a grain of salt though. I seen it in a video so lord knows how true it is.

[@WookieJangoFoxtrot]

@@Jamesbout83 It's sad when I can't even tell if your joking, or truly believe that.

[@davidhowell7279]

Agreed. I was contemplating unsubscribing. I much more enjoy his humorous and more positive thoughts on all things Star Wars. There are plenty of other channels available to hear people focus on what should have been or whatever. Welcome back, Screencrush.

[@annscholl2066]

Yes.Yes.Yes. Yes. Yes.... Would love to see the battle with the Grysk. I also hope that Thrawn we see in Ahsoka is more like Ascendancy Thrawn than he was in Rebels.

[@nailinthefashion]

Smash that button, baby!

[@jonmabe254]

YES PLEASE! I hope Dave Filoni is listening!

[@robertbuttry5233]

I agree with Doug when it comes to trying to understand how must Gideon use the clone to do his dirty work. Part of the reason why our team was not able to clone a body and move his absence into that body is because he didn’t know how to do it yet. What makes you think? Must Gideon knows how to transfer his essence into another quote

[@nicholasgarrick8855]

I hope we see Hondo makes an appearance in season 4 if pirates are the main villain of the skeleton crew.

[@nilesclifford9704]

Me too, and I also hope grogu grows up to become a jedi to have yoda's green lightsaber to cut moff gideon in the half in the mandalorian season 4.

[@banjopiggottwright1802]

Well whilst I love your take on what could happen from Season 4 onwards, regardless of what Favreau and Filoni decide to with the Mandalorian moving forward, I'm so hyped to see how it all plays out. This is the Way.

[@slamrahovart9024]

I am all about your theory for both season 4 and the Mandoverse film! I honestly couldn't ask for more. I hope you're somewhat correct

[@chriskoshinski]

How are none of these characters mentioned in episodes 7,8,9. Less then 20 years later?

[@taylormadealpha]

Gideon being alive would be cool but these cool, exotic theories never pan out in Star Wars! The obvious thing is usually true...unless we never see the body. Actually, we never see Moff Gideon's body....

[@acolytesounds]

"Yea but it's such a cool weapon.." It is man.. it really is.

[@thomasbennett0]

Mandalorian season 4 Captain Carson Teva (to Mando):" Somehow Gideon returned."

[@sweetpeaandcuddleybear]

My thoughts on the name Din Grogu is it's like saying "son of". Just like how we got the the last names of Johnson, meaning Johns son, and so on. So by calling him Din Grogu they are implying son of Din.

[@ashenbreese]

i thought it might be that the name came from din djarin's family who got killed in the clone wars. he kept his original family's name (and structure) but became a mandalorian (which is both a culture unto itself and a collection of many other cultures).

[@chrisdupont1195]

Maybe some Madalorians use the "first name + family name" structure (like Europeans or Americans), and others use the family name first (like in China or Korea). It's a big planet.

[@williammcginnis9026]

It also may not be a name at all, but a title indicating that he's a foundling. Am I the only one that noticed Axe Woves knew he had no Mandalorian blood without knowing anything about him? Or did that come up in season 2 and I'm forgetting?

[@cameronliddell9533]

your very close but after looking into it din is actually arabic for faith/religion/CREED. so din djarin (taking after chinese practice of generational name first) is actually djarin of the creed as the dont get the din moniker till AFTER they have taken the creed. Grogu was adopted by din so automatically gets the din moniker as an apprentice (which is what a mandalorian becomes AFTER taking the creed). Like Paz's son is now an apprentice mandalorian

[@jameslewis7717]

Yeah, it’s probably a way to show that Din Grogu was adopted by Din Djarin. That is why we haven’t seen it before.

[@Murph709]

oooh yeah, an episode hunting down each warlord, giving us a glimpse of what theyre all up to would be cool

[@kingjariSOS]

It seems to me they've set up Mando and Grogu as Rangers of the New Republic. It feels like a reset to the standalone episodes of the first two of seasons. With a different imperial remnant enemy or bounty each week with Thrawn looming large in the background.

[@coolu]

Thank god mandalorian is not over, i love this series and cannot live without it

[@michaelgarcia3248]

I absolutely love your theory videos. This just makes me want more Star Wars now.

[@masterchuck8772]

Din Grogu, Mandalorian Apprentice, Force Wielder, Kinght of the Ancient Order of Independent Regions , Warden of the Seven Kingdoms and Preotector of the Realm, and so on and so forth

[@GrimmGoodbye86]

If Gideon has a clone that survived, it won’t be one with a a connection to the force. It’ll just be an advanced form of Gideon. The clones on Mandalore were his force clones. Which is why he reacted to their demise in the way he did.

[@darkozosel9114]

My theory is that they'll retcon Snoke as a Gideon clone that survived the retaking of Mandalore. The one that openend it's eyes to look at Grogu specifically. But I'm not too attached to the theory so i wouldn't be bothered if I'm wrong

[@jonmabe254]

Thank you for acknowledging the new theawn books! Most people seem to discard them but they are very important!

[@02sandies]

I met Caine in person this past Saturday here in Amarillo Texas at a Comic-Con

[@gr8tbigtreehugger]

Gideon has lost in every season. Not a serious villian anymore. Bring on the Grysk!!!

[@bobbybloodfeastin308]

The Batman 66 sounds and editing were perfect!

[@conorlemon4417]

I think that Ezra has become thrawns personal enforcer simular to vader and palpatine and thrawn has convinced him to his way of thinking that's why they never come back because they were gaining troops and working with each other to make a new empire.

[@ericjome7284]

Seems like perhaps Mandalore will probably fade into the background like Greef Karga and Navarro. Individual episodes might tie into the wider universe, but it seems we're back to less complicate Djarin and Grogu show.

[@chef-ln5fw]

I love the world building they've done in the new season

[@Lobosalsa9]

World building?

[@BlackShogun]

I like how Gideon posed for the flames before being engulfed

[@dr.nottanownudder]

I think the broken dark Saber will be remade by grogu and grogu will also ride the mythosaur. I feel like me might get a time jump and grogu will be "The Mandalorian" that the title refers to

[@ark7204]

I rather see the time jump using World between Worlds to pick up the Darksaber from the different timeline. (Like the Avengers Endgame.) Or at least back to the timeline where Grogu decides to stay with Luke for more training.

[@umerkhalid4349]

A most amazing episode… loved all the cut ins

[@Lance37a]

I hope that going forward the show has nothing to do with the First Order. I get they want to connect the sequel trilogy, but why? That trilogy was so weak and it makes no sense to keep trying to retcon a failure.

[@EnderDragonoth]

Personally, I would love to see a spin off where Bo becomes the lead and starts a quest for bringing the tribes together. It could be an interesting story as some tribes would want to dual and others maybe want political power. The cast could also start small, say with just Bo and one form each of the tribes (new or returning) and could easily grow from there. Honestly, I believe Star Wars is at its best when it is told like a TTRPG, like Rebels, with Ezra being a new player and not knowing anything.

[@michaeldunwood5907]

a feshly hatched gideon wouldn't necessarily 'just know' how to use the force. he's not Rey, after all.

[@mangaman4277]

I really want to see the usan vong in future episodes

[@OleDuke]

I agree with the dark saber, destroying the hilt was a plot device so that the Kyber Crystal in it could be repurposed into a smaller blade that Din Grogu could wield.

[@Starwarsfan066]

16:00 I hate how it's now called the "grisk" When we all know the real threat is the Yu Zong Vong.

[@Hello-bi1pm]

Both names sound silly

[@erikluther6436]

60’s Batman sound effects make everything better.

[@poneill65]

A series of very slow walks to Grogu's first day at school and hilarious clips of him eating glue and getting crayons stuck up his nose. In the finale we get to hear his first words,.. which won't be dada, prompting Pedro Pascale's stand-in to sadly slouch his shoulders in an acting feast for the ages

[@jerrybeichner]

This channel has become mostly fan fiction of what Ryan hopes is going to happen.

[@xuanvutran3114]

Armorer: You're outnumbered, Din Grogu. You need more men. Grogu: There are none. Armorer:There are those who dwell in the mountain. Grogu: Murderers. Traitors. You would call upon them to fight? They believe in nothing. They answer to no one. Armorer: They will answer to the king of Mandalore....Anduril, Flame of Mandalore, forged from the shards of Darksaber Grogu: The Empire will not have forgotten the sword of Tar Visla. Armorer: The man who can wield the power of this sword can summon to him an army more deadly than any that walks this galaxy. Put aside the Ranger. Become who you were born to be. Take the Mythosaur.

[@CharlesGreggo]

Considering the fact that Darth Vader is now voiced by A.I. and the Mandalorian is acted by two body doubles while Pedro Pascal does the voiceover (and A.I. in future episodes) this show could literally go on forever.

[@Memento_Mori]

The end of this season felt more like the end of A New Hope than anything else, I think next season will be darker and Thrawn will end up being the big bad of an arc that's like a Mandalorian version of The Empire Strikes Back. Following the western trope of having the gunfighter wanting peace and being drawn back in, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a couple of episodic missions and by the end of the season the two of them are on the anti-Thrawn train.

[@patrickgoshorn3517]

Please make a short about Din being space Batman!

[@Fadaar]

I finally realized the best way to convey my feelings on the show -- I like it best when Mando is the protagonist, not the POV character

[@stentheartist4138]

Your Editor is a legend 😂😂

[@atishayritulpatwa7235]

Yoda said, "Now I am the last jedi." No person or alien that practice the light side of the force survived till the return of jedi. Ezra is not a jedi, he is a grey Jedi and has abandoned the way of the jedi.

[@franzferdinand5810]

Din could still totally be He's first name. In some cultures children take the name of their fathers/mothers in combination with theirs. In our berber culture we would for example have Hassan ibn Ali, translated, Hassan son of Ali. It could totally be possible that in mandalorian culture that would be reversed, Din father of Grogu

[@alankohn6709]

What you've suggested is interesting, coherent and well thought out, with interesting characters and compelling stories, You are asking a lot of Disney the people who gave us the Reytasrophy

[@CanadaCasper]

When Din Djarin fell down the living waters, I wonder if Grogu subdued the Mythosaur even back then so it wouldnt hurt Din Djarin? It was sleeping much like the Rancor when Grogu used the force to make it fall asleep. Just an interesting theory I have.

[@JKUTWatcher]

After seeing the Captain America comparison, imagine if they used a line “Mandalorians…assemble”.

[@brandonfarmer7897]

I want to see how grogu went from being saved to separated from the Jedi that saved him. If they knew how strong he was, they would have given him special protection but somehow he ended up under the protection of no Jedi.

[@warofwrath]

Luck of the draw, even Yoda the most farseeing jedi couldn't predict order 66.

[@crewchief5144]

WHY aren't the Mandalorians in the sequels??? The Grysk? Hmmmm...or... OR...Filoni and Favroo steal MORE Expanded Universe canon in the form of the Yuuzhan Vong.

[@mitchlinnen2228]

Ryan: "something something Din and Grogu something something" Me: ...shouldn't it be Grogu and Djarin now? 🤔 No. The Dins, that's way better. Ryan, seconds later: "something something 'The Dins' something something"

[@sinnythejedi]

Call me crazy but I think what’s going to happen is very obvious… Mandalore is retaken and with much work to do, Grogu can’t become a Mando until he’s ‘old’ enough to speak, happily ever after-ish conflictless hidden away set up ending… Ladies and gentlemen, The Mandalorian season 4 is gearing up for a significant time jump. Maybe even excluding Djarin and Grogu from the upcoming shows and movies.

[@NickelAntonius]

Favreau says 2 weeks ago that the story is only halfway complete, and yet this week the internet is flooded with "IS MANDALORIAN OVER???????" videos.

[@LazyGyro]

I hope kelleran beck didn't survive all the way through return of the jedi There shouldn't be jedi out there at the time of OT, imo It's better if Luke/Leia are the only hope for taking down the empire, what could Beck have been doing? Yoda and obi-wan talk about Luke being the last jedi... it just becomes a messy story if there was a jedi alive where Yoda just didn't have his force phone number to call them up, like Yo beck, do you mind being back-up for luke when he goes to fight that youngling slayer you hate so much? There's a few force users who were out there like Ezra, Asohka, and Grogu but they have have good reasons to be unknown and not be around + Asohka isn't a "jedi" technically lol? Same with cal kestis in A new hope... I wonder what will happen to him 🤔

[@GGBlaster]

While I get where you’re coming from with Ezra being the most famous for beast control, I’d like to argue that Obi-Wan deserves the street cred. Iirc, Obi-Wan made a friend in AotC after Jango had sent him off into the Kaminoan sea. In CW, Obi-Wan makes friends on Kamino two more times, and controls some creatures on Ryloth.

[@londond9800]

Wow, that was incredible content. I read the original Thrawn trilogy by Zahn years ago but don't recall the Gryssk. Would be great to explore that content in live or animated fashion, but I think it will be too much for the Ahsoka or Mandalorian properties to explore with just 8 episodes each. And frankly season 3 proved they aren't great at world building in the Mandalorian. Frankly, I'm just hoping Gideon is gone. Great villain but it would just break my loyalty to the show. If they wanted some sort of return it needed to happen at the end of season 3 and as an intro to thrawn with thrawn taking him out. Frankly the whole Gideon cloning himself thing was a bit dumb and just showed the character had run its course.

[@deloceanophoto]

For any complainers that Din is not Mandalore… the main characters have never been rulers in Star Wars. Luke, Han, Leia… they weren’t the overall leaders of the rebellion. Anakin, Ahsoka, Obi Wan… weren’t the leaders of the Jedi council. It’s ok for someone else to be ruler of Mandalore.

[@nicholasgarrick8855]

Ryan your are genius always love your theory it will interest in seeing where the series go ,and how they ultimately culminate in the movie right now I'm super hyped for ashoka that looks to be amazing👏🏽👏🏽.

[@Troy211]

Grogu is NOT a Jedi! He's a mandalorian! Not a mandalorian Jedi. He's had Jedi training but is not a Jedi. Even training to hone his force sensitivity will not make him a Jedi. Ashoka completed all her training and is still not a jedi. Grogu is the mandalorian, and will be the greatest one that ever existed.

[@ragweedmakesmesneeze]

Wait, the dark saber was made of bescar? And Moff Gideon was able to crush it with one hand? Yeah...that tracks...only in so far as this season was filled with major plot points/devices that suddenly got tossed in the metaphorical trash as soon as they became inconvenient to whatever scene they were trying to complete in that week's episode.

[@r.3367]

What if that clone vetran scene with TM was a test fit initially for TM in colne armour etc. We might see him in Ashoka as Cpt Rex.

[@christopherfortes2192]

So in the video you mentioned maybe the Mandalorians was in that battle in the rise of Skywalker...I went through images of the ships an YES there are Mandalorian ships in that final battle and you can see at least 4 ... in the upper left of the frame.

[@ThisIntrovertLife]

This season didn’t really advance or move Din storyline forward at all. I can almost say the same for Grogu b/c he pretty much displayed the force abilities in season one. Would have nice to see him actually put the chain nail and armor to use but ole well…

[@zacharymiller719]

This is kind of a weird take and I know her backstory is kind of fleshed out in the literature but could there be a connection to Captain Phasma and her silver armor and the Mandalorians? Like we discover she was a foundling or something of that genre that helps further the link between trilogies?

[@GigaChadDuPlessis]

Gideons dead. No more theories about him surviving plz. Season 3 was the end of arc 1 and the end of gideon as the villain. Season 4 will be the start of the shadow council arc and the introduction of thrawn and ezras return

[@PUR3STALK3R]

How do we go from all of this stuff to 'Somehow palpatine returned' and 'They fly now', it makes the movies even more utterly disappointing

[@TheVentrexian]

Back to basics is best since folks can't handle a little change, loved this seasons vibe.

[@TheMaxRebo]

Could all this with Thrawn and the Chiss and the Grysk, and our heroes being tied up with that also explain what they were doing during the Sequel Trilogy and why none of them got involved in that storyline but survived and, at least some of them (*cough* Grogu *cough*) are around for the new Rey movie?

[@dianewms]

When Grogu walks or runs, he needs to move his arms back and forth. He looks so weird moving because his arms aren't involved.

[@Pope-enhiemer]

Do you think the Rangers show will be Mandalorian season 3.5? Like the book of Boba was season 2.5?

[@kadeortega8305]

I love the actor who plays Gideon but I hope he’s dead dead. The gimmick of him never dying at the end of each season is very very old

[@TAGATOR]

Your analysis is right on Ryan. A big part of season 3 was setting up future content. I know a lot of fans were a bit disappointed with the season and need to watch this podcast segment to gain a greater understanding of what season 3 was all about. Generation Tech has a great assessment of the seasons over lying ark as well.

[@DoginSuit]

They wouldn’t go out of their way to say they need to kill Gideon once and for all. So they can’t bring him back

[@humanaesthetic]

The literal plot armor for Gideon. Jeeze.

[@dquinnster47]

The Mandalorians are the Jedi Knights we thought we were going to get until the prequel proved they were worthless idiots.

[@joeker970]

When you watch closed captioning it labels Din's lines as the mandalorian. Not Din Jarin

[@burger7499]

What if the droids that Ahsoka fights in her trailer are Grysk droids that were sent to Ahsoka to stop her from finding out about the Grysk? Maybe that scene is later in the season after Thrawn warns Ahsoka about the Grysk and tells her to go to the planet where Ahsoka finds a map for the Grysk, where Ahsoka is also intercepted by the Grysk droids trying to stop her from finding the Grysk, like I said before.

[@Hello-bi1pm]

Too convoluted. We know those are Morgan Elsbeth droids and she works for Thrawn. They haven't even alluded to bigger threat in these shows.

[@MimesAgainstHunmanity]

Here is an idea. Seeing as season three has just ended, how about we all wait until season 4 actually airs before we talk about it?

[@jessicastuppyknits871]

I really loved this season. How many times do we complain about a show over explaining for new viewers who don’t know the history? This show was made for the fans who know what’s what.

[@nathandts3401]

I've been predicting good guy Thrawn since Vanto started working for the Chiss.

[@SpliffRidah]

U have the cutest co host of all time

[@kyotaiken]

An "arch" is not the same thing as an "ARC". Over "ar(ch)ing" isn't over "ar(c)ing".

[@joeker970]

No one mentions that the clones are bald in the tank meaning if that was a clone it had hair. So it would have had to shave it's mustache on purpose.

[@rosbif4960]

Your perhapses are ridiculous.

[@TDawgBR]

Glad to see more folks subscribing to my fan theory about this being Grogu's story. He is the titular Mandalorian.

[@tabbyplays930]

I feel like these star wars shows and movies are literally surface deep. Twists are what they do.

[@mitchevans9382]

Mando was great. Moff was a good villain but I think using him as the main villain for 3 seasons was a little stretch.

[@michaelluchansky4480]

@Nicolasgarrick, refresh my memory, who is Hondo?

[@schools6555]

Did you really just compare Din Grogu to Robin of all people!?

[@gdavis]

Better use of this unknown enemy would be in the rey movie as nee big bad for that time period

[@Marcus37007]

If Gideon is still alive, I think it would be awesome if his mean base of operations was actually Vader's palace on Mustafar. Also his mean cloning facility could be the Fortress Inquisitorius. That would be amazing and it would be like poetry and, would rym etc.

[@mikedavis4009]

YESS!!! i’ve been saying mando is space batman for years!

[@JeremyKGover]

You mentioned my theory, even if you kinda dismissed it. While we were watching the finale, we thought that Gideon may have been a Clone and then the real Gideon was off-world.