Scuf Is Throwing Jabs AND Landing Them! - Scuf Nomad Review

[@JiggityJiggity]

1:09 understandable, have a nice day

[@GameTechTalk]

🫡 Thanks for wanting to engage with my content, glad to have not wasted your time! Nice day to you too 😊

[@aexszz]

I heard from another KZbinr that Scuf hasn’t made the NOMAD controller compatible with Android because they still have programming to complete since there is such a wide variety of Android devices. However, Scuf actually reached out to them and said they were currently working on compatibility for Android in the future.

[@GameTechTalk]

I mean... It sounds a bit easy to say for them to say now if being honest, yet Scuf literally printed on the box that it is Apple exclusive, only works on Apple devices. If I was a betting man, I'd put my money on Scuf not being satisfied with the sales, so it is bringing closer the Android software development to be able to tap in a huge market as soon as possible. It's already discounted, it's not moving much units... Sounds like it's not the outcome they were hoping for so they have to make it more revelant. If I was in their shoes, I'd do the same so nothing wrong there. That's not to say Android was never on the roadmap, I'm sure it is but by their own admission on the product description, it wasn't a goal "yet". So assuming that this KZbinr did get that info from Scuf, it would say their plans recently changed and that's good for Android users.

[@legendarymoji]

Hey man, I appreciate the time in making this video and the discussion provided. Just picked one up!

[@GameTechTalk]

Thanks my guy! Glad to know I was able to bring assistance in your shopping decision!

[@brettleecubbage]

I got mine around Black Friday for 59.99. Can’t complain! I just walked into Best Buy just to look. And there it is!! I had to have it and compare with the backbone!

[@GameTechTalk]

That's awesome, and you got a great deal too!

[@ChantelMcclure-c9c]

I just bought the x2s blue tooth today & thank u bro u answer all my questions 🙏 you showed me I got a great buy oh it's my alternative controller 😁 🎮 thanks I seen 4 of your video's u the new wave guy of the tech talk keep up the good work

[@GameTechTalk]

Dang, that just might be my favorite comment of the week! Thanks my guy, much appreciated and will continue to work hard to put out that good content. Cheers!

[@MobileDecay]

Backbone can jab back by saying, "We don't block Android and Windows devices." I wouldn't buy this based on principal.

[@GameTechTalk]

Fair point actually.

[@heartdyedpurple]

Sometimes it’s not a matter of scheming. They may only have the budget or internal resources to guarantee a reliable experience on iOS and Mac. They could have invested solely in Windows, or solely in Android. But they chose to follow MFI guidelines and knew that their product would work without a hitch on anything Apple. If they release for Android, that means doing QA for Android, and tech support for Android, and taking a hit with negative reviews when someone’s random Xiaomi doesn’t work with their controller. Maybe they didn’t want to support when Windows 11 installs the wrong driver as Windows likes to do strange things. All this to say, sometimes it’s easier to “deactivate” support for a certain platform than deal with the cost of supporting it. I can’t say for sure this is the case, but I’ve seen it done, and I get why they do it. A lot of internal resources are spent making sure a thing “just works” when you plug it in or connect it.

[@bulletpunch9317]

@@heartdyedpurple that sounds really lazy when the $10 aliexpress gamepads work with anythih bluetooth.

[@GameTechTalk]

Be it hardware detection, or just hardware correction through MFi, there has to be a collaborative effort. Maybe Corsair negotiated reduced MFi costs in exchange of exclusive support. Scuf is synonymous with competitive gaming and we can all agree that Apple is making more and more effort to corner that market. But here’s another example for you, Elgato. Much like Scuf, it is also owned by Corsair. Elgato has vastly superior support on iOS devices, some devices still only work on iOS (outside of Windows) in fact. Only the iOS version of Stream Deck Mobile offer 5 free persistent icons, on Android its « pay up or nothing ». I don’t blame them for doing so, they are keeping who they believe to be the strong partner in their tighter circle. Nothing wrong with that, but I also can easily connect the dots on how these two brands historically collaborate. Between you and I, I think that is a smart move from Corsair even if I don’t like it, because that also means that Apple sees value in Corsair, something that Apple probably doesn’t offer to many brands in terms of recognition. In last, if you study the marketing and r&d development style of Elgato, you can definitely see the Apple DNA in their approach. As in they « copied from the best » and arguably, they have a better « ecosystem » of products because they do. I assure you, I don’t exclusively see it as a negative, I see positives too, I am mainly interested in the brands as much as I am in the products themselves. That’s how I can make such analysis. That is why I can also agree with the point you made as another benefit for Scuf, less costs supporting the other sides also helps them understand the market while making sure they can have good sales by partnering with Apple primarily. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see someone playing with the Nomad in future promo of an iPhone. iPhone 16 maybe? 😉

[@nicholasjordan6757]

@@MobileDecay except backbone sucks, got mine, really short joycon sticks and it stopped working after maybe 2 months. The whole left side buttons don’t work and their customer service is terrible. Got one automated message and that’s it. It’s been 2 weeks

[@Godsrainbow]

Yeah this nomad looks real cool too might pick this up. Although im really rockin my gamesir aileron x4 rn.

[@GameTechTalk]

Very solid option you got there with the Aileron quite frankly.

[@gregorybolivar5712]

Like the Man said... Solid Option... GameSir X-4 Aileron...User... 😁🥸😎🤓

[@Imhotep_DrummerJones]

😂😂 I’m thoroughly entertained by the commentary… I play Codm with ps5 controller (yea I’m ole skool), and the delay keeps me from running solo vs squads with the big boys… if the lag input is faster than a normal controller, you sir have sold me this product…

[@GameTechTalk]

Happy to bring the assist! If ever you do grab it, let me know how you've been liking it, it does sound like the dream product for you. Symmetrical sticks, exemplary performance, and a great solution overall for quick in's and out's. Thanks for engaging!

[@Imhotep_DrummerJones]

@@GameTechTalk nos sir, I thank you! I gotta admit, I’ve seen your vid on the Galileo G8+ and I’m preeeetty sure that’s what I’ll be buying😅😅 thanks for all your info and stay true to your hilarious expressions😂 you got me subscribed

[@SaucerX]

Thanks for the heads up at the beginning that this thing does not work with anything but apple, left the video playing in the backgroudn anyways, keep it up Klef! 💪🏼💪🏼

[@GameTechTalk]

Oh wow, that’s truly a selfless and kind gesture on your part, thank you greatly! 🥹

[@lategamingwithiainjarvis]

As someone who plays on Switch, Steam Deck, Xbox, and PS, now the Scuf Nomad. I am disappointed with the Scuf Nomad because unlike the other controllers you didn’t have to bend your right thumb so tight to reach the X,Y, A, and B buttons. The buttons are almost vertically symmetrical centered that you bend your thumb in the shape of an open square, vs a Nintendo Switch Joy Con which is has the layout in the opposite orientation. On the Joy Con your thumb bottom joint sits perfectly on the the stim of the joint, and with a slight simple pivot the tip of the thumb has an open space to press the buttons on top, in a shape of a slightly curved line instead of a open square. Reaction time is everything, but the dropped the ball on this.

[@GameTechTalk]

I hear you, I also think the issue you are describing wouldn't have been as blatantly obvious if the sticks would've been smaller. But much like I mention near the end of the video, I think this controller does have a very obvious customer that they are catering to, so reducing the stick size would've been counter productive. But I totally get where you are coming from and I can agree that it doesn't lend itself well to some titles.

[@1xmac]

@@GameTechTalk does it fit the iPad mini?

[@GameTechTalk]

@@1xmac It will not no, the Nomad doesn't stretch that wide.

[@mikeflamez]

Hey bro, great job on the review. I am an iphone 15 pro max user. Im stuck on wether to buy the scuff nomad or the G8+ 😅 both your reviews were great. What would you suggest?

[@GameTechTalk]

I would pick G8+ 10 times out of 10. The Scuf Nomad is GREAT… As a small form factor. If we merge both large and small, G8+ for sure. Thanks btw!

[@KCAILLOUET14]

Got mine, and love it

[@GameTechTalk]

Always happy to know a fellow gamer found the ideal tool to indulge in gaming, as we all love doing.

[@dffoosag3583]

I’m just wondering how long it will last over time since it’s battery operated etc . I have the black one and Its built very nice very solid fluid smooth as hell i just wish the R3 analog stick was below the XYAB buttons and not above them.

[@broham1576]

Good review, it’s does have an and improve quality and feature that iOS gamers needed, like you said the market for it is really untouched. With only a select few controllers, I feel like this is the best option. But that’s best from it the deal breakers are mainly just compatibility. Yes I get its targeted for iOS, but at this price point it should have at least wired connection to pc or android. The app seems amazing love how It’s not a subscription

[@GameTechTalk]

Well said! I also think that this is probably a more suited financial decision to insert themselves in a market that is in rapid growth. Once they have a foothold, I’m sure they‘ll expand. Exactly like Backbone did. I don’t blame them, I get it from a corporate POV, even if it’s not ideal for all consumers.

[@F4D3P4R4D0X]

Great review, I’ll say for me I love the ergonomics of this controller more so then my backbone but for me personally the latency is the deal breaker… I don’t play religiously on my phone but when I do want to game on it I’m very anal about lag input and stuff I notice it right away and it kills the game for me sadly….. on the bright side I’m a day one backbone member so I have life time subscription !!!! Hope they come up with a re vamped backbone soon!!! Great vid man!!!!

[@GameTechTalk]

Day one backbone here too! A refresh would be well overdue at this point.

[@edssszy]

Great vid as always man. Wonder if you can give me a link for the iphone case that you got it seems thin and I like it. Thanks❤

[@GameTechTalk]

amzn.to/4cre9OS Affiliated link, I hope you won’t mind. Its on sale for 9.99 as well and the one I got is Frosted Clear. Cheers!

[@ilytimeless]

finally one with parallel analogs

[@GameTechTalk]

Yeah, I feel like if a company was to make a decent full-sized one, it would do quite well. It’ll come, the question is when?

[@michaelbenny659]

They are making quite a name for themselves in their niche

[@GameTechTalk]

They definitely seem to have garnered a great deal of attention for iOS users. More players in the space is better for consumer but that walled-garden approach is creating unwarranted desire. Backbone greatly benefited from that, seems like Scuf is reproducing the pattern. With a controller this good, they might pull it off!

[@dmanx410]

So i have a question. I have an IPhone 15 Pro Max, and want to set up Retro Arch and Delta. I want a controller, do i go with the galleo g8+ or something like this.

[@GameTechTalk]

There are dozens of reasons to go for G8Plus over this. Easily. So I’ll respond with the reasons why you may want to pick the Nomad over the G8Plus. It’s very portable, the sticks are in symmetrical array. That’s it. Any other reason, go G8Plus.

[@Boygnetik]

just the app that allows you to adjust the response curve could make me throw away my G8, Warzone Mobile is unplayable with the G8 because of the deadzone which is not configurable

[@GameTechTalk]

So I’m sorry for what I’m about to say as it really sucks but the G8 dead zone can be adjusted… On Android only ☹️ On iOS, the app doesn’t work, something they were able to fix in the G8+. Cause yeah, I’m with you 100%, some Hall effect sticks are way too sensitive so without some adjustments, its not so great for fps.

[@Boygnetik]

@@GameTechTalk yes, the G8 has a deadzone that is much too "big", and to aim and manage the recoil, it is completely impossible to do on WZ Mobile when you are used to the PS5 version... it's a shame because I bought the G8 thinking that the experience on WZ mobile would be good...

[@domshimmy2376]

Need something that connects straight to the phone so there isn't any latency issues

[@GameTechTalk]

That ain’t it then. If you want similar, yet not as feature-rich customization, I would suggest looking at the Razer Kishi Ultra.

[@domshimmy2376]

@@GameTechTalk Gamesir G8 gotta be the move

[@GameTechTalk]

@@domshimmy2376 if you’re on Android? 100%. On iPhone, you might find that the app doesn’t work.

[@Mojito6429]

What about the game brawl stars. Can you test it and let me know if it work with this remote

[@GameTechTalk]

I tried it, it doesn't work but it seems that the controller is just not controller compatible.

[@gregorybolivar5712]

Hey... It's K.L.E.F... That means, the King of Mobile Gaming Controller has noticed another GoodieS for us... Gamers... All those Controllers... if they are Bluetooth meaning... Android..Ios...Pc...can picks it up and connect and function at some point... The same thing, GameSir X-4 Aileron Bluetooth controller was for only Android... Guess What... I was able to connect it to my ipads...Pro 2018 and Mini...which I was able to play "OutRun USA" using PPSSPP emulator on Ios... I came across a video on KZbin that it has three modes... 1) Default (White Xbox Light) 2) Xbox button + A 3) Xbox button + B (Blue) Also, can be use as a set of Switch JoyCon for two players...

[@GameTechTalk]

🫡 It’s a team effort between us gamers.

[@gregorybolivar5712]

​@@GameTechTalkOf course...

[@eddie6536]

What case do you have on your phone

[@GameTechTalk]

amzn.to/47a1b7k

[@garcia2041]

Does it have haptic feedback?

[@GameTechTalk]

It does not sadly!

[@Smokie1013]

Does it connect through bluetooth or is a lightening or usb c plug?

[@GameTechTalk]

Bluetooth but it can also connect through the USB-C port on the controller and that'll only work on Apple devices last I tested.

[@saylo8796]

Does it have gyro? Not really a deal breaker but man if it does, it’s the perfect mobile controller.

[@GameTechTalk]

It does not unfortunately. Would've been great though!

[@DankNoodles69]

Does this connect to the ps5 has anyone tested this? I saw a video saying it did connect but never tested it and on the website and support says it doesn’t so I’m confused can anyone help?

[@GameTechTalk]

If you mean remote play, yes it works fine. If you mean connecting directly to PS5 and using it as a PS5 controller, no it doesn't.

[@josecenteno6682]

Bro klef i ve Been watching videos for like 2 weeks now I have a iPad 10.8" for cloud gaming i need a controller but i don't see anything worth it other than the d8 d9 and d10 is there an actual good quality controller out there for that purpose and for that ipad size? Pls help lol

[@GameTechTalk]

GameSir G8+ for sure. Anything else is sub par in comparison for iPads.

[@1xmac]

@@GameTechTalkbetter than the Kishi?

[@GameTechTalk]

@@1xmac Oh easily. The Kishi Ultra is good, but also overrated.

[@1xmac]

@ no lag? How’s the weight compared to the Kishi? The iPad mini does carry some weight. I was happy with my Kishi but it has been giving me connection issues, if I’m unable to make it stop, I may be shopping for a new one this Christmas. Oh and btw thanks for the channel and being so responsive! You could also review handhelds, like RetroGameCorps but he focus too much on the retro aspect, there’s a niche (not small) that’s looking for the next Steamdeck killer, or a more portable one, or the best Xbox portable experience; and me personally find your reviews quite useful for that type of decision.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@1xmac Thanks for the kind words. Yeah I watch Russ and have even had the chance to speak with him a handful of times, great dude. I definitely will expand my videos to more product over time but I like to enjoy the scenic route and make sure I can get good at these things before throwing myself too much in too many directions. Funny enough, you should be seeing a few "retro" handhelds coming shortly, got a wave of them coming my way so all in due time. Thanks bud! The Nomad has a very nice weight proportion and feel overall, but it's also a lighter controller. The symmetrical top also works great I find for aiming. That said, and to re-iterate, it won't work on iPad, it doesn't stretch wide enough, just iPhones. Cheers!

[@slaterhtx7219]

Is it better than the G8+? Thats all i need to know lmao

[@GameTechTalk]

I do classify this one as part of a different category (small). All telescopic controller combined, it is not.

[@lisandralika658]

Wich is the fastest gamepad for fps

[@GameTechTalk]

Fastest can be extremely relative. If we are talking about polling rate, that controller 100% is not it. If we are talking about the aiming of your sticks, any controller that lets you customize the curve can equally be as fast. This one can let you customize the sticks if that’s what you meant.

[@lisandralika658]

​@@GameTechTalk fastest on aim and shooting

[@GameTechTalk]

@@lisandralika658 Then that would be any controller that you can address the sticks with the software, GameSir G8/G8+, Scuf Nomad, Razer Kishi 2/2Pro/Ultra, ROG Tessen. Keep in mind that the compatibility of some of these controllers may differ.

[@rolins3279]

Personally, any brand that is not called Apple 🍏 and that releases a product exclusively for iOS, is definitely blacklisted in my book ❌ 🚶🏽‍♂️ 🚶🏽‍♂️ 🚶🏽‍♂️

[@GameTechTalk]

Fair enough.

[@AtzeryV2]

Is there input lag? Xbox controllers have input lag

[@GameTechTalk]

Hardly if ever, I think a super super super pro might say otherwise but I consider myself pretty sensitive to it and while I can say that there are controllers that appear ever so slightly better, it's to the point that I would not consider it to being an issue. I hope this helps!

[@Greidaon]

no android support = trash. *shrugs*

[@GameTechTalk]

I’m sure we’ll see one at some point but not right now it seems.

[@psp4gamer]

​@@GameTechTalkBut it is compatible with IOS without the app? Im just interested of turning bluetooth and playing with it, pretty much like a dualsense controller

[@GameTechTalk]

@@psp4gamer Yeah it does, the app just extends your experience but is by no means a necessity.

[@GameBrainerz]

Whats up GameBrainerz I make any controller work on android

[@ElíyCTB]

Brawlhalla also doesn’t work with every controller

[@GameTechTalk]

I'll try to add it to my list of games to test, thanks for mentioning it. Cheers!

[@mariozt4rr]

I'm just gonna live my like and won't watch the full video. No point since it doesn't work on android. I really appreciate the heads up since I almost bought the controller a few days ago. I'm buying the Easysmx m10 instead.

[@GameTechTalk]

Pleasure is mine. I wish I could have said different but for now, let’s wait and see what the future will hold for Scuf beyond iOS.

[@grenadeheart652]

Man is a telescopic controller with 4 back buttons too much to ask for 🤦

[@GameTechTalk]

You know, off the top of my head, I can't think of one so you have a good point!

[@grenadeheart652]

@@GameTechTalk I found a Bluetooth one from Shanwan if you want to check it out lol

[@ufcfan3940]

How bout no back paddles never use

[@NelekGamingNG]

great product but apple only support = 🤮

[@GameTechTalk]

Weird move from Scuf, unless there was a great incentive, my money is on: « There was one fo sho! »

[@BoboVIBG]

It gad tertible latency uspecially when i aplay minecraft of shooting game. 😀

[@GameTechTalk]

My assessment would be that you have great reflexes and are probably tuned to higher and more reliable controllers, be it polling rate, input lag or just latency. The Nomad is by no means terrible but it also is by no means special in any kind of way in terms of latency. As stated in the video, it is « entry-level » Bluetooth performance.

[@gregorybolivar5712]

Hehehe... Indeed... Any Company that offers some 3rd party Accessories for Ios... Always goes straight for the W.alle.T... Trust me... There's plenty of Ios Devices owner / Gamers outhere begging for Apple to release their own mobile controllers... So.... Any time Someone says, this is reserved to Ios Costumers, many will buy it... No questions ask... 🙃🤣🧐🤓🤯

[@GameTechTalk]

I don’t like exclusivity like that. At least Backbone was able to hide behind the connector at first, whereas Scuf is just Bluetooth. No reason to but oh well.

[@gregorybolivar5712]

​@@GameTechTalkI know right...😎

[@Chris.Morales]

I know you’re still growing and become your own brand. But I really hope one day you become like Flossy Carter and exist out of the sponsorsphere. Where he buys what he reviews and gives a real review. He does accept sponsors and devices they send to him, but he makes it clear it’s THAT kind of video and tells us to wait for the REAL review. I really can’t take a video where a brand sent someone something, seriously. So I really loved this video so much since I’m thinking of buying the Nomad myself.

[@GameTechTalk]

I’ll keep it in mind. I like his content, don’t know that it’ll ever be my style but I get what you’re saying.

[@Chris.Morales]

@@GameTechTalk yeah, I didn’t mean his particular style. You’re unique, just like he is unique. I meant, I pray you grow enough to get the freedom to always give your honest opinion. I mean, I have a friend who’s grinding too and sponsors are the only way to keep grinding he says when your in an early stage. It’s inevitable, until one snowballs enough to break free from the silly system KZbin has to promote sponsored content. Even people like UBT, LTT or even MKBHD I watch with a grain of salt, I just feel cheated when they talk good about something I know by first hand that has big flaws. Like the Rabbit R1 videos.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@Chris.Morales I greatly appreciate what you said. Thanks for elaborating and thanks for wishing for me to find this level of success. What you say, I’d really love to do so rest assured, I’ll keep growing and give it all I got to always get closer to that reality for the channel, for the viewers. Thanks for being here, it helps towards that day to manifest itself!

[@Chris.Morales]

@@GameTechTalk I have faith on you, just like I had with Flossy. It’s been a crazy ride with him, been watching 10+ years and seeing my old comments telling him what I just said to you now become a reality, it’s awesome. So I now that the feeling I had when first seeing you, is the same I had when first seeing him. Your style, personality and genuine aura let’s me know you can do great things if you keep hustlin’. It ain’t easy, but it’s worth it. Keep on shining my guy! Also, if you ever buy stuff to review and then want to resell so you can cover at least some of the cost, let us know, I’m sure lots of people would like to get their hands on some of those gadgets even if they’re second hand. One man’s garbage is another one’s treasure. 🤠

[@GameTechTalk]

@@Chris.Morales Fawk, I woke up to this comment. It got me emotional my guy. Means a lot, thanks for believing with me!

[@Umadddd58]

What a shit move to make it iphone only i am a loyal scuf user for many years and they just screw me up that i use android ? No scuf for me 😂

[@GameTechTalk]

Apparently they are working on adding compatibility for Windows, so I've been told but I haven't seen anything official to back up the claims.

[@Umadddd58]

@@GameTechTalk they can say anything but i dont believe those false promises after 2 years they will add android because there will be much better controller out there at that time so when they lose customers they will decide to add android but no one will buy it then cheap ass company with cheap services F scuff gamesir g8 plus beats this controller any time any day I wanted this controller but happy I decided to go for the g8 plus Galileo

[@nyghtemxre]

Apple is overpraised.

[@GameTechTalk]

I certainly will not disagree with this statement.