SDPC Tech Tips: Performance Lifter Selection

[@drumdude68]

Excellent dissertation on lifters. Thanks, Nick.

[@davidncw4613]

Just a few vids in to your library, a gold mine!! Thankyou so much!!

[@babaoreally8220]

The Pontiac flat hydraulic that was used with their 041 RA/IV camshaft and valve train in 69/70 was capable of keeping track of the valves at over 7,000rpm.Went there with my crate engine many times on the street.’64 LeMans.There were many more parts inside,tho,to basically lock them up.

[@slowpoke96Z28]

usable in any sbc that takes a hydraulic roller lifter.

[@BubbaAyers1969]

Thanks we’re building a B&M 142 supercharged engine, always checking on the updates 👍 thanks for sharing with us

[@Hitman-ds1ei]

Great overview

[@James-Orr]

I went with the Johnson link bars on mine. I was expecting them to be a little noisy but really havent noticed them yet since Im just starting tuning,

[@stoneyswolf]

Dude sounds like he's going to go into cardiac arrest

[@davidncw4613]

He needs a fuzzy on hi mike.

[@robertm2172]

Them big boy lifters have been around since the 90s. My hp 500 boat motor uses them

[@chadsanders3506]

Can the ls7 work in a original SBC Chevy roller motor

[@gixxer750axld]

thanks again!

[@raymondezell7378]

So my question is can you run the ls7 lifter in a l31?

[@tannerweinstiger7869]

Love the info but take a min to get some air lol

[@διαβόητο23φάντασμα]

Got to eat them burgers extra patty.

[@patrickbryant7845]

😂😂😂

[@edwardlarry1085]

🤣🤣🤣

[@dalebourgeois9851]

Hey, Great videos, I have a stock 5.3. I'm interested in your SDPC Tow camshaft, 207/207-480/477-115. Can I used those lifters that are attached to each other and discord the trays? And use stock or better rockers and pushrod? If so, could you send me pat #'s? Thankyou Again, Dale

[@Sdpartscenter]

You can use the link-bar style lifters but they would be way overkill for that cam. We recommend the LS7 lifters and trays for that combo.

[@tombauman2592]

have a small block roller motor 1990. need lifters using for my boat . cam is a xm-276-hr. lift is 503 intake. 510 exhaust. . what lifters can i use. . thanks

[@harveynewman4333]

are the link bar,roller lifters good for an everyday driver? i wanna build a 400,small block for a tow motor for my van. how many miles would they last,hopefully.

[@Sdpartscenter]

No longevity problems running link bars.

[@harveynewman4333]

@@Sdpartscenter so i can install them in a motor that im going to use for every day and towing a rv trailer for at least 200,000 plus miles and shouldnt have a problem with?

[@shadowopsairman1583]

@@harveynewman4333 do research on the lifter trays

[@ericbrandt829]

400 is a Gen1 motor....Best thing to do with a Gen1 if you want cheap reliable roller valvetrain is to use the 1996 Vortec 350 Roller lifter trays & guides with the 2.8V6 Chevy roller lifters look up Gen1 roller lifter retro-fit

[@reyperez3424]

Yes they are better, they will last as long as you keep changing your oil

[@dalebourgeois9851]

If I use the LS7 lifter in a totally stock 2005 5.3ls will I have to change the pushrods? If so, what would you recommend?

[@Sdpartscenter]

If all you are doing is swapping lifters, you shouldn't have to change Pushrods but new lifter buckets would be recommended.

[@jasonnash2691]

Hi mate, which way do the holes point on the LS7 lifter

[@Sdpartscenter]

General consensus is it doesn't matter which direction it points as it is a 360° oil galley.

[@milojanis4901]

Is Kurt Urban still there?

[@Sdpartscenter]

He is, a lot of big projects going on right now. We've got video running together at Big Bend just this last year as well :)

[@anthonyardizzone3792]

Good info fast

[@vinnyvette6028]

You left out that the LS7 lifter is a drop in service replacement for the GEN ll LT1 / LT4 “‘92-‘96” Gen 1 SBC 87 and up with factory roller cam’s. But of course you guys like to forget these engines exist…

[@jplperformance9073]

3800 uses them also

[@Larrymoecurley]

But why do they go bad in GMC 5.3 liter?

[@gloriamaletta8667]

Depending on what year 5.3 your talking about newer ones have DOD which in my opinion is junk and causes headaches but if your having problems with lifters in a older model 5.3 without DOD most likely it has 200,000 miles or more on it or maintenance like oil changes were neglected or someone has been revving the hell out of it often have had 4 LS Chevy engines 2 used ones a 2002 and one 2009 LS 5.3 engines a new GM performance 2008 LS2 6.0 engine and a new GM performance 2021 LS3 6.2 engine so far have not had a lifter failure in any of them and the 2009 5.3 has 150,000 miles but you'd never know it by driving it it runs just like new but l change my oil every 6 months regardless of miles every 3000 or most likely less with valvoline high mileage 5/30 synthetic and a wix XP oil filter not using the proper oil viscosity can cause problems also l use 5/30 oil in all of them

[@andresmedina2827]

I just ordered a cam and it has ls7 with dual titanium springs🥲

[@UNEEK_LOGIK]

Then why so many part #’s ??!. It’s so damn confusing when ordering or looking for lifters You got 17122490 , 12499225, or 12648846 so what is the difference ? Video idea.?

[@Sdpartscenter]

Some are dependent on which location they're manufactured. You can have the same component but manufactured in two different factories and they have to have a different part number. Part gets a component from a different supplier? New part number. It's confusing even on our end!

[@UNEEK_LOGIK]

@@Sdpartscenter so I talked to GM parts engineering and the lifter part# 17122490 are for iron older LS block/Motors and part# 12648846 are for aluminum blocks and Newer LS/LT motors. Part# 12499225 is a set of 16 lifters, individual part# 17122490 (older style) And it gets more confusing because GM is revising the part # again will update y’all with New part# when it becomes available Hope this helps or topic for future video maybe??!..

[@UNEEK_LOGIK]

@@Sdpartscenter side Note they said call your local dealership provide your VIN and get the lifter Part # that the engine/vehicle was built with

[@raymondezell7378]

A lot of times when gm has a part number change it’s simply a price increase.

[@dalebourgeois9851]

If I change my camshaft to a higher lift, say a .580 lift can I still use stock springs and valves or can you recommend a good setup to use for that lift? Thankyou Dale

[@Sdpartscenter]

Stock springs will not be able to handle that lift, you will need PAC 1218's at the very least.

[@jarvislarson6864]

@SDPC I just ordered the l83 afm delete kit from you guys and paid for the ls7 lifter upgrade....does that mean i got hoodoo'd and got the same std lifters or did i get a true upgrade ls7r lifters?

[@gloriamaletta8667]

Have had 4 Chevy LS engines one 2002 5.3 and and one 2009 5.3 both these engines were bought used bought a new GM performance LS2 6.0 engine in 2008 and a new GM performance LS3 6.2 engine in 2021 they are all maintained very well with oil changes and maintenance they are not beat on constantly but at times they are driven or revved hard l haven't had a lifter related failure in any of them and the 2009 5.3 has 150,000 miles on it you'd never know by driving it it still runs as good as new so far no ticking smooth and quite don't know exactly what lifters are used on GM LS performance crate engines but I've have revved them numerous times to 7200rpm with out any problems with a aftermarket or upgraded hydraulic roller camshaft with matching valve springs and l believe the GM performance LS crate engines don't even come with LS7 lifters just stock lifters but l could be wrong

[@Airman..]

Gm did 3 lifter iterations throughout the years matter of fact it's still used in Gen V, the latest has a golden clip you can see it in this video, older than 07 or 06 it had a dull steel clip. What kills an OEM lifter is heavy valve spring seat pressure I've seen a brand new gm lifters set fail in the 4th dyno run! Thats the time when you need 2116lsr lifters seen on the table theses can take 420lb seat pressure all day long

[@neighborhoodnightmare3864]

Ls7 & ls3 have the same lifter

[@michaelwright5585]

BREATHE !!

[@johncampoli8389]

Good itel. Thatnk you. However, your audio guy needs a lsson on audio compression.

[@Sdpartscenter]

We're all just amateurs doing this on the side (don't let it get in the way of doing your regular jobs kind of assignment) and we were working through a variety of different lapel mics and figuring out the camera settings. Current one (not used in this video) we have is better than we've had in the past.

[@cromagnon305]

Good info, but tell your sound guy I'm gasping for breath listening to this

[@michaelslack6891]

Tell your mom to stop messing up my laundry!

[@jakewade7388]

The GM LS7 lifter set (16) now is well over $400.

[@timweb1510]

Nope

[@SoftiesTruck]

We’ve got a heavy breather on line 1. I repeat we have a heavy breather on line 1

[@michaelslack6891]

That would be your mom!

[@hildablanco1591]

Rhoads lifters are best

[@alaabualiable]

Thanks for the information but breathing through the microphone is annoying use a foom over the microphone please

[@Sdpartscenter]

We've changed mics with adjustable gain now. We're progressively working to improve our videos.

[@GTRliffe]

bro your microphone is too clear, your breathing is more clear than your words. Throw a rag over that microphone!!

[@michaelslack6891]

Brah! Put a rag in yo boyfriends mouth and see how that sounds

[@redshirt-scotty]

btw, it's spring force not pressure. otherwise, good stuff.

[@OminousCamaro]

Bro... I didn't realize how breathing is such an important part in making sentences. Move your fucking mic!

[@patrickwendling6759]

Take a breath, man..

[@leslieheifner8215]

Darth Vader

[@michaelslack6891]

and your mom is Princess Ho!

[@AnthonyGman]

So hard to pay attention to the information in this video. This guy has breathing issues

[@kniteprince3798]

Nope.... as soon as he mentioned Comp lifters I knew he didn't know what he was talking about. BEST cams in the world, WORST roller lifters in the world! I'm an idiot, because it took replacing 5 sets of them before I learned NOT TO USE Comp cams lifters.

[@jakewade7388]

I do not have faith in anything made these days.

[@StanleyBlack-xf3hv]

Is the LS engine the only engine you after market and so called speed Websites think a bout. There is Ford and moparfans out here that would like to have info. Every time I Google something for my Ford or dodge all I get is LS CRAP

[@Sdpartscenter]

@StanleyBlack-xf3hv just search some of our other videos, we are doing mopar development right now.