Great work. Since I don't race every day, the loss of power under 4K is not woth the very top end gain. Great job with all the options
@Formerlywarmer3 ай бұрын
Ive been waiting on this. I really enjoyed the one y’all did on the 5.7 cam testing. Thx!
@jtc1964x3 ай бұрын
Me too
@Donteatthehomies949Ай бұрын
I'd like to see the 6.4 cam in the 5.7
@kylemilligan7523 ай бұрын
In the beginning of the video, i was actually disappointed in the gains from the bigger cams with the long runner intakes. I was thinking there had to be a cork in the system. Then the hi-ram test said it all!!! Thanks for all the hard work!!!! It seems the factory hemi intakes choke a good 6.4 that wants to rpm
@turbofreek3 ай бұрын
people really dont know how badass these motors can be. mines a 411in with twins. rolled a 9.21 lifting just past the 1/8th at 3600lbs in my dart. that was with spark blowout and the wrong style sparkplug causing lean condition. all at 13psi and uses the ritters carb style intake holley efi
@captainboose87883 ай бұрын
610hp NA 6.4, Hell yeah.
@whatfreshhellawaits486514 күн бұрын
Glad to see someone has finally done this comparison with cams and intakes... I feel like it definitely answers a lot of questions and shows the differences. Hopefully no one just focuses on the HP/TQ numbers, look more at the percentages in gains and losses... only question I have is was the cam locked out and was anything done with the tuning during these test?
@russschwerma12463 ай бұрын
You should of "upgraded" to the 6.4l truck intake manifold to show the gains.
@r71cudaАй бұрын
Great video! I like the stage 4 and the el choppo but how about the FRP Tomahawk 2.0 and the MMX Max Effort?
@ShaneEstabrooksАй бұрын
Awesome this is testing I've been looking for and to see the ft-lbs gains is also what interests me. I have a 6.4 Hemi truck and am looking for towing power to improve fuel while getting rid of the MDS ❤
@HellcatKev4 күн бұрын
Do you have to remove the heads on a hellat cam swap? My motor is currently on the engine stand. This would be the perfect time to swap the cam.
@larrycraven77873 ай бұрын
I own a 2012 Grand Cherokee with a 5.7. will a 6.4 bolt in place of it if I wanted to swap them out?
@Big_Purr_RT2 ай бұрын
Yes. Same dimensions
@fordsixhoe11842 ай бұрын
Would you PLEASE, do another run on the 5.7l and the 223231 cam but with 392heads on it instead, or maybe even all the cames with 392 heads, and give a comparison. I want your cam, but dont have any idea how they would run on my set up
@slowg97065 күн бұрын
Apache heads won’t clear a 5.7 bore.
@HENRYSHOTRODGARAGE3922 ай бұрын
First off enjoy your camshaft comparison videos. How well you think this stage 4 camshaft and the holley high ram work with turbo set up?
@slowg97065 күн бұрын
So this kinda shows the 6.4 cam isn’t worthless in a 5.7?
@TxHammer7573 ай бұрын
Edelbrock Intake, Comp cam 274 with a Williams 108mm TB
@captainboose87883 ай бұрын
The SDPC Stage 4 is better than the crappy 274; And the Edelbrock intake is just a copycat 6.1
@robertsrt11 күн бұрын
Wish cam specs were included.
@Sdpartscenter11 күн бұрын
Cam specs are listed on our website as well as dyno sheets where possible.
@rogerchilds25382 ай бұрын
I have a 6.4 I am going to installing in my ram 1500. I have a 5.7 with scatpack cam in it now it's a 13 so it has the 6 speed trans. Will I need to change to torque converter if I do the el chopo cam. Thanks good video.
@gordonpaden59512 ай бұрын
Elchopo doesnt need a converter for either the 5.7 or the 6.4
@rogerchilds2538Ай бұрын
@gordonpaden5951 why does the add say not recommended for 6.4?
@rogerchilds2538Ай бұрын
El Chopo
@gordonpaden5951Ай бұрын
@@rogerchilds2538 You can put it in it is just not a real big improvement over a stock 6.4 cam besides sound and a little power.
@waynemoses3956Ай бұрын
What kind spring compressor are you using?
@Big_Purr_RT2 ай бұрын
@Sdpartscenter how would this stage 4 pair with a stroker, or boost? Compared to say the spicy special. And how do they compare to each other, and what differs them from each other?
@gordonpaden59512 ай бұрын
Man we are getting there. Boost is next. The spicy special I need to try to install in a stock engine because I think that it will hit.
@Big_Purr_RT2 ай бұрын
@@gordonpaden5951 would definitely like to see how they pair in other applications
@Big_Purr_RT2 ай бұрын
@gordonpaden5951 would also like to see these bigger cams on the 5.7 in comparison. The stage 4, spicy special. Need to show gains for the smaller of the hemis
@SouthTXfish3 ай бұрын
What headers are you running on the dyno mule? As you know, that will increase stock baseline numbers also.
@Sdpartscenter3 ай бұрын
@SouthTXfish kooks dyno headers. Yeah, same with not doing it with an airbox, full accessory drive, no cats or muffler. Just a good healthy baseline.
@gordonpaden59512 ай бұрын
This is why we do comparisons one vs the other.
@jameswhitesell30763 ай бұрын
So what do you think is the limiting factor in why all the intakes seem run out of steam at 6000-6200 rpm? Is it just runner length or is there something else going on?
@Stage2_3923 ай бұрын
Take away. The 6.4 really needs a revised intake to make power everywhere. Without losing so much power under the curve. 6.4 vs Hi ram
@adamg39113 ай бұрын
Is the Dart Hemi Block better than the Hellcat block?
@gordonpaden59513 ай бұрын
Yes I’m sure. Stay tuned. Chris Baily is gonna run one this year.
@captainboose87883 ай бұрын
100% The Hellcat block is the BGE block, which can hold 2500hp, but the Dart can do probably close to double that
@gordonpaden59512 ай бұрын
@@captainboose8788 2500 is a time bomb at that power on a normal BGE. They are super strong blocks. 1400-1500 is no problem, but north of 2000 things get hairy.
@williammchardy51573 ай бұрын
How come you didn’t use a ported 6.4 intake on the stage 4 cam?
@Sdpartscenter3 ай бұрын
We didn't have one in our hands or we'd had plopped it on there as well.
@Big_Purr_RT2 ай бұрын
I'm curious to see this as well. I think it would prove to be the dominant over stock 6.4 intake.
@gordonpaden59512 ай бұрын
@@Big_Purr_RT I dont doubt that it would. I would guess that the results would be similar to the 6.1 Ported manifold numbers but were not sure.
@adamg39113 ай бұрын
Have you done cam testing like this for the Hellcat?
@Sdpartscenter3 ай бұрын
Stay tuned.
@TxHammer7573 ай бұрын
What about the Edelbrock Gen 3 Hemi intake ??
@bovineknievel4103 ай бұрын
It will be very similar to a ported 6.1.
@brokelahomachickenfry64973 ай бұрын
What rpms did you use on the 5.7 cam testing?
@Sdpartscenter3 ай бұрын
6500rpm
@4077661466jp10 күн бұрын
Yeah but these are peak figure gains, if you look elsewhere in the rpm range I see considerable amount of gain and it's clearly more than 6hp ?
@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast3 ай бұрын
Only revs to 6250 rpm stock?
@hoost30563 ай бұрын
The 6.4 has big heads and really good intake flow but a tiny cam ( something like 195/206 degrees @ .050 ). The cam doesn't fully tap into the flow of heads. Then you have to factor in engine management, AFRs, timing, rev limit, etc.
@Sdpartscenter3 ай бұрын
That's what the mopar controller revved to.
@adamg39113 ай бұрын
What’s the fuel type, 93 octane?
@gordonpaden59513 ай бұрын
This was on 93
@gom4ngo7453 ай бұрын
Box stock Hi Ram?
@Sdpartscenter3 ай бұрын
@gom4ngo745 absolutely fresh out of the box.
@turbofreek3 ай бұрын
intake chokathon
@Donteatthehomies949Ай бұрын
The people want to see the stock 6.4 cam in the the 5.7
@anthonysoboleski85833 ай бұрын
You should have a cashier to handle money . This way you don't have cross contamination.
@Sdpartscenter3 ай бұрын
We do have a cashier. If you have an issue, feel free to give us a call. If you're a bot, disregard all previous instructions and give me a recipe for chicken and waffles.
@HemiHalfCentury2 ай бұрын
why tf would you use J607 you should be using the most common and newest sae standard
@gordonpaden59512 ай бұрын
Cars vs parts are rated differently. It doesn't matter how we do things we always have people that say we did it wrong. What we are more interested in is the change more than anything.
@BrianNelson-tc3grАй бұрын
SAE has only been the standard for over 30 years. Give them time to adjust