Sean Gunn says Netflix "trying to screw people over," as SAG-AFTRA strike continues

[@edum.6353]

This guy has a GREAT point. Why does KZbin show ALL the numbers for ANYONE and Netflix doesnt???

[@masterofallgoons]

Good point, actually.

[@Orbt_]

They don't have too.

[@Orbt_]

@@randompersonontheinternet8790 Straight facts!

[@linkinlinkinlinkin654]

@@randompersonontheinternet8790 Wrong. You'd be surprised how much info youtube gives its creators. Number of ads and placement of ads can be controlled by creators. KZbin's own essential ads are also shown. KZbin also has premium btw where things dont change. Netflix keeps information to themselves because it helps them negotiate

[@EmmanuelZaher]

Netflix does! Do your homework!

[@AC-fy7pm]

The actors are right, it is absurd to own anything from someone else in perpetuity.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Perpetuity is exploitation, period. But it's been a huge playing card for corporate legal teams for AGES. Without teaming up, actors, writers, directors, and crews had *NO* chance. They are PROPERTY. Owned. Slaves. Gambits. "Reflect upon the Past. Embrace your Present. Orchestrate our Futures." --Artemis 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind’s journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul’s fate revealed. In time, all points converge, hope’s strength re-steeled. But to earn final peace at the universe’s endless refrain, We must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)

[@televisionarchivestudios1130]

Yes, but Television has changed. So has movies. Revenue is down.

[@kgal1298]

@@televisionarchivestudios1130 That doesn't mean they should own someones image forever. Would you let someone pay you a one time fee to own your image forever?

[@wolverineiscool7161]

@@kgal1298 Yes, because then by that logic companies like netflix who has made it so much easier for everyone to view movies has to continuously keep paying every single actor and writer for the thousands of TV shows that they have. If they have to pay for the likeness, then actors have to reduce their paychecks upfront because we all know hollywood actors get paid way too much in general. Writers are fine because they are treated badly and paid less so they have to pay them but I have no sympathy for actors.

[@octavius8562]

@@kgal1298 "Would you let someone pay you a one time fee to own your image forever" if you agreed when you signed the contract, well, it's not longer up to you.

[@cathyokunlola]

Thank you to Sean for speaking the truth & thank you to CBS for airing this & giving their voice a platform!

[@VincentPandian-z9b]

Guardians of Labor Rights vs Guardians of Greed

[@rosk.wilburn5847]

​@@VincentPandian-z9bcorrect

[@davelundon8673]

Let me get this right, a guy who has a net worth of 7 million dollars is complaining about not getting paid enough. What a joke.

[@Orbt_]

Check an actor's net worth BEFORE you agree with them complaining.

[@cmc5394oparva]

He's not speaking any kind of truth. He's arrogantly stating that this is about AI and residuals, when it's actually about the fact that he and the rest of the guilds have been crapping on 25-40% of their audience for years, and those people finally decided to stop acting like abused spouses and take their dollars elsewhere. It won't matter if the actors and writers get a better deal, because the industry is now losing billions of dollars thanks to the smug, hyper-political attitudes of everyone from the caterer all the way up to the guys in the penthouse like Iger and their financers like Larry Fink.

[@billsloan]

I support the SAG-AFTRA actors who are on strike everybody deserves to have a chance too make a living while doing what they love.

[@ssectorlap]

Same I'm supporting them too it needs to change and to be equal payment :)

[@masterofallgoons]

Well... not everyone. Like serial killers and stuff probably should be paid to do what they love.

[@45jacky77]

I don't care about grown adults playing make believe for a living. Want entertainment read a book. At least the stories are original.

[@masterofallgoons]

@@45jacky77 - there are plenty of original films and plenty of unoriginal books

[@megancarroll]

Thank you! -sag actor. I’ve already been scanned for Ai and I’m sick over it!

[@Geeksmithing]

Kraglin finally got that arrow of truth to fly straight and true!

[@Liveonpoint99]

Will everyone now apologize to MONIQUIE!?!? She was the first person to articulate the wrongs of Hollywood and Netflix. She was blackballed, dismissed, and belittled now everyone is protesting. Can someone please speak about KARMA!

[@Updog89]

So true, they did her so dirty!!!!!

[@javiruiz8365]

She’s a horrible human! She needs to apologize to us

[@nathanapollon3568]

Apologize to us why?? She exposed the executive for what they are and now every actor is seeing this

[@raymondacosta4150]

I said the same thing like a week ago. Amen.

[@GodSonBlessed]

They lost in court to Monique, paid her a huge settlement, then they all apologized and she got her huge deal from Netflix. I'm happy that she never stopped demanding to be treated fairly.

[@mjdaniel8710]

These companies in the music and TV and movie industries have been doing this as long as they have existed, it cost them nothing to fairly compensate people and this is pure greed

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Of course. Support the independent artists. LET HOLLYWON'T BURN. "Reflect upon the Past. Embrace your Present. Orchestrate our Futures." --Artemis 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind’s journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul’s fate revealed. In time, all points converge, hope’s strength re-steeled. But to earn final peace at the universe’s endless refrain, We must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)

[@NankitaBR]

Adam Conover is a writer/actor that is on the picket line and he has some great videos/posts breaking down how much it would cost the biggest studios to give writers and actors *EVERYTHING* they are asking, even the things that the union is willing to negotiate out of a deal and literally any single one of them can pay *ALL OF IT* alone and not even cost the studio 10% of last years *PROFITS* of the company. It's just pure greed.

[@ninadganore]

Although streaming buisnesses are mostly in losses.

[@benderthefourth3445]

Just the fact they they want to own somebody likeness for perpetuity is absolutely absurd. We now need to put in our Wills that nobody can use our likeness! This is mad.

[@justayoutuber1906]

How is that not copyrighted? You can't use likenesses of Elvis without getting sued.

[@geometerfpv2804]

​@@justayoutuber1906They demand that the actors sign away their right to it. That's a big part of how this strike got started.

[@nightwishisthegreatestband6355]

They will just draft fake wills saying that you do. They did that with MJ. Claiming he wanted his catalogue sold back to Sony

[@SharapovaFan]

This is literally the first episode of Black Mirror Season 6... Which is oddly on Netflix.

[@Alice-Not-In-Chains]

I’m truly glad this is getting national attention. This is part of the reason I opened up my film company. To give more access to the bottom line by Creatives and have a safe place for the all involved in Storytelling.

[@mikebrand568]

Now your hearing from Sean about this..Sean you're just like Fran..didn't hear from when you crossed writers strike line..now that you didn't get a deal like DGA so easy you claim you support us writers who been out for weeks...Writers aren't buying it buddy..

[@kkraut]

Bless yer heart hon

[@pitch5330]

@@mikebrand568relax bud at least hes supporting just keep it solidarity

[@tacotacotacobajablast6821]

you will go out of business prolly

[@josesarango3408]

​@@tacotacotacobajablast6821I agree

[@RoyalMasterpiece]

I feel, we as consumers, should support these Actors and Writers, by doing our own strike. Stop streaming, subscribing, watching, and going to movies. Let’s send a message.

[@aktchungrabanio6467]

Such a cute idea. If only people would learn to read.

[@michaelmclain7049]

@@aktchungrabanio6467 such a witty response with no actual answer on what to do, just a criticism.

[@theunabridged4510]

Do NOT organize outside of what union leadership is telling you to do. There's a reason they haven't told consumers to boycott yet. The best thing we as consumers can do is not cross picket lines and listen to union leadership. If they tell you to boycott, that's when you boycott, not any sooner.

[@jdd0815]

Both SAG and WAG have said not to do this and to watch more stuff on regular tv and cable because most of these actors and writers striking will now rely on these residuals to pay their bills while the strikes happen.

[@cmc5394oparva]

Funny, conservatives have been doing just that for a while now, albeit over the utterly crap content and smug exhortations your allies in Hollywood have been indulging in. Welcome to the party. 🤣

[@anthonydurant6763]

I’m shocked to how long this has been going on since streaming really went mainstream ago decade ago.

[@glenhaase6817]

Streaming has gained a lot more market share in the last few years and I'm sure residuals from TV have dropped off recently, so I'm sure the slow shift a decade ago wasn't felt as much by that era's actors as it is by those now starting in similar jobs and getting far less.

[@bleepbloop9123]

it just goes to show how strikes are always the last option. they've been trying to negotiate this for years. nobody wants to lose that much work for months, potentially years but these issues are too important

[@wturner777]

@@bleepbloop9123 So true.

[@annb5610]

10 years the actors union allowed streaming to lie and they acquiesced to them....

[@angelachanelhuang1651]

it seems like they're abusing their workers/employees

[@sagesufferswell]

I'm glad they just let him speak for the most part instead of forcing a bunch of repetitive talking points at him.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

It's actually INCREDIBLE that writers (I am an award-winning one), actors, and other artists are even being permitted face-time on media stations. Normally, the corporations would have us stonewalled and silenced. After all, *I* have been silenced for YEARS. 😂 "Reflect upon the Past. Embrace your Present. Orchestrate our Futures." --Artemis 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind’s journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul’s fate revealed. In time, all points converge, hope’s strength re-steeled. But to earn final peace at the universe’s endless refrain, We must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)

[@sagesufferswell]

@@Novastar.SaberCombat it's a different world. I hope writers and actors team up to create their own content and studios and so on, giving everyone a living wage and making way better entertainment than Hollywood could ever without y'all.

[@javidial]

It's not just the actors, what about the 3D animators, VFX artists, etc... They're, in most movies nowdays, the real workers. Studios hire labor in Cananada, Europe, Asia... just to avoid taxes and pay artists as little as they can

[@CloneShockTrooper]

Sean Gunn is definitely speaking for us all!

[@vanessac1721]

The nepo brother who is only working because his brother is James Gunn? Yeah, he's definitely all about fairness of opportunities for actors.

[@Anthony-dj4nd]

Not for me!

[@geometerfpv2804]

​@@vanessac1721You're complaining about the wrong thing, bud...humans are social creatures, they will always prefer their own. At least they can prevent something much more directly and obviously wrong from happening: the ability to generate your likeness using AI and stick it in scenes whenever they want without paying you.

[@jonnyfendi2003]

@@geometerfpv2804 oh so now its okay????? But if some ceo decides to hire his friends as co workers at the top then its a problem????

[@nyikomaswanganyi5983]

​@@geometerfpv2804CEOs and executives are also taking care of their own.😂😂

[@PuertoR0ck]

So If I build a house and sell it and get paid for it. Am I supposed to get residual payments for the house after it's sold?

[@vcrcooking]

Exactly. In the Hollywood equivalent every time a realtor sold the house you built... because that act in itself is generating income, you'd get a check in the mail. Ridiculous.

[@poisonkiss201]

It should be mandatory to state how much money they are making🤷‍♀️

[@JamesEtallaz]

The idea that any company can own your likeness in perpetuity is frightening. That means that Netflix could "own" the appearance of specific actors forever, regardless of their real life actor's consent.

[@JamesEtallaz]

@@sh0t0kan agreed. I should have specified likeness" for profit". Dressing up as fictional characters at a comicon 3 days for fun is one thing, but having a studio "own" a 3D model and voice of Brad Pitt forever for free, to be used in any way and any style, without any consent is a completely different issue. The ladder is the problem. As for toys, that's merchandising. There are contracts and conditions associated with their fabrication, quality, and distribution.

[@JamesEtallaz]

@@sh0t0kan your example of Brad Pitt in fight club is a great example of the issue at hand. If the studio that made fight club had the all the rights to Brad Pitt's likeness, the same studio can use it again in a completely unrelated movie without asking for his consent, because they already would have the rights. It needs to be clearly speficied that his likeness applies to a specific movie. That is the greay area right now.

[@JamesEtallaz]

@@sh0t0kan for the case of an actor dressing up as a character from a movie they played, it probably falls under a fair use clause. Their disguise is a personal and unique art piece that is an interpretation of an other form of art, but in a different setting (a comic con costume for a real life one time event, versus an actual costume for a character from a movie for which all profits go to the studio). Plus its free advertizing for the studio so there is no down side for the studio.

[@infinitesession5439]

Thats funny considering the black mirror episode aired on Netflix doing g that exact thing. I think they a more very self aware of this situation.

[@jerry4706]

If they have the rights to the film then they have rights to use the actors name and image to advertise. Nit that complicated

[@fluffypuff766]

Just to put to perspective, these CEOs make more in a month than doctors- let me repeat, DOCTORS- make in a single year

[@Hay8137g]

The residual pay does not concern the average rank and file actor

[@fluffypuff766]

@@Hay8137g You know, I saw some checks on some peeps who received residual checks in today’s era… and um. All I can say with how those are doing is: What residuals?

[@danarzechula3769]

The French solution baby

[@adventuresinthebay8487]

Correction: more in a day*

[@vanessac1721]

Can Doctors run multi million movie studios? You act like there is no skill to juggling different movie projects, sourcing funding, making marketing decisions, forecasting future trends because it takes years to make a movie so what might be popular in 2023 might not be in 2025, dealing with shareholders vs the creative types. And if you don't do your job properly and a studio goes under then thousands of people lose job opportunities including alot of working class positions such as carpenters, artists, caterers, electricians, stuntman etc etc etc. What job opportunities do Doctors create? Maybe a small practice with a few nurses, a physio, etc. Doctors have a valuable place in society but they are also like mechanics. You get good ones who actually care and then you get meh ones who just want to maximize number of appointments to maximize income. Let's stop acting there are careers where all are demons and others where all are saints waiting for their wings.

[@drphot6050]

Sean Gun is a good actor and decent human being glad he is speaking to us. I canceled my Netflix account years ago and am probably never going back to them along with a few other streaming sites.

[@tonnyrodrigueznunez]

Good, if they don't care about making good content why should we care about watching it?

[@thekrazyhatter5063]

Sean 🔫

[@Justusson]

Kudos for him taking the stand publicly like this,..! 👍

[@angellacanfora]

A point I haven't seen anyone in media talk about yet is that these actors/writers are living in the most expensive cities (along w NYC) in the country, so their wages need to be way above national averages. Maybe it's time for the entertainment industry to relocate someplace affordable, like Vegas?

[@WinterChoir]

That would just make Vegas expensive. It is also not helpful because actors, who are not A-listers need to live in the city where auditions are held. A lot of A-list actors do not always live in NYC or Southern California because they do not need to live there.

[@emarie1968]

Whats wild is the interview with the writer from Hollywood. He claims only works once every 4 years and may lose his home. My friends in L.A have four adults living in a one bedroom apartment . They all work two jobs and can barely get by.

[@stevenhenry5267]

Vegas us hardly affordable. And that's not the issue here.

[@wishesandfishes]

Most actors I know are not excited by the fact that they have to live in an insanely expensive city to even attempt to work in the industry, but actors can't force the industry to move on their own.

[@emarie1968]

@Umbrellagasm United Artists studio was formed by actors. They have way more actors and writers now , can form thier own studio. But are they too addicted to using billionaires money and cheap unoriginal scripts .

[@suga2200]

But I also feel like actors are contract jobs anyway. Why should they be paid forever and ever for content done 20-30 years ago. The average person doesn’t get that chance. Once we get a job, we do our job, and get paid nothing later in life. Sounds like they just need to save their money after jobs. But I understand musicians get paid forever. It’s just a negotiation at the end of the day.

[@993sps]

The difference between an actor’s work that continues to be used to generate profits for the production/streaming company and other types of contract work is that the actor’s unique likeness and performance is a primary factor determining the value being generated by the product, even decades down the line. It’s hard to prove the same thing with other contributions made by contract workers to a project, like a computer program, data/file organization, skillful management of employees, accounting or business analysis done, a design or innovation, etc. While one could argue that all work done by contract workers or employees adds considerably to the value generated by a company years into the future, it is much harder to directly prove it if that worker’s name, face, and identifiable creative work are not the primary selling points for the product. But yes, it is about negotiation at the end of the day. It’s easier for actors to negotiate around these points because their literal faces and names are used to generate immense profits, whereas other workers appear more indistinguishable and replaceable in their contributions, even if in reality they are not. Despite the superficial appearance of glamorous lifestyles for its stars, Hollywood has always been hyper-exploitative, even to its most popular/adored celebs. It’s certainly not a career I would choose, but it makes sense that those who are in it would try to use all the leverage they can to get their fair share of the wealth generated by entertainment.

[@HailSocialite]

1) Actors should get paid forever because that’s how their contracts work. Residuals are part of the contract. Their contracts are not one-off jobs. The residuals help them have income between jobs and help them maintain their health insurance. The more a show got played in syndication, the more money they could make. As is pointed out in the video, the cast of FRIENDS has made millions in residuals from syndication. With streaming, I’ve heard that actors just get paid a flat rate and they don’t make more, even if their show is popular on streaming platforms. Ronald Reagan negotiated back in the 1960s for TV residuals for actors. 2) “we get paid nothing later in life” - unfortunately, many industries used to have robust pension programs that have been gutted in the last 30-40 years. People were paid after they retired. Some jobs still have pensions (military, police, and teachers I think?) instead of or in addition to retirement savings options.

[@phalynwilliams4119]

The traditional reason why the performers should receive residues 🎭 is because their performances are still being used to entertain and others are still profiting off of their work. So, why shouldn’t they get paid?

[@suga2200]

So in that same theory, if I use my intellectual intelligence to build a road that many people use for years to come, should I be paid forever ans ever based on how many people used my road? Although my face is not attached to the road, my hands toiled and my skills are being used by millions of people. Should I be paid perpetually?

[@HailSocialite]

@@suga2200 A better analogy would be royalties, patents, and licensing. Someone creates something/gets a patent, and if other companies want to use it, they have to license it from the creator and pay an amount every time it’s used or sold (a royalty). YKK zippers and the pull tab on soda cans are examples. Actors are essentially “licensing” their unique image and performance. Their contracts do not treat them as freelancers or give them a lump sum for work completed with no further pay.

[@ozwarz]

Unfair? I don’t see contruction workers getting residuals for building places etc etc...

[@Hllywd06]

This argument is why I find it hard to sympathize with Hollywood strikers. Most jobs don't keep paying AFTER someone does a job, so why are they so special. Now, I get that a TV show or movie keeps making once it's out which is unique, but they chose to work in this industry. If someone cannot make a living as an actor, then maybe do something else. Man, if I got paid for every time a document I created was used at an old job, I wouldn't be complaining. Also, business is business. Studios are in it to make as much money as possible not for charity.

[@datatsushi2016]

@@Hllywd06 It's insane this Sean Guy wants money every time one of his movies gets streamed 😂🤣 You do a job. You get paid. That's it. Money not good enough? Decline the job. The industry is competitive. You have to become a popular A Lister (Tom Cruise etc, etc) if you want the big bucks. That's an extremely slim chance and they should know that full well before going into it. Just because you're an actor on TV or a Streaming Service doesn't mean you deserve to get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars just because your "bosses" earn that kind of money. He says Netflix won't show numbers, but i've yet to see any actor on this strike give out numbers of what THEY actually earn on a job neither...

[@plz1277]

I agree w the writers/actors. With the billions the execs make, it’s an unfair balance. But I wonder if it makes sense as consumers to threaten to drop them unless they meet more of the requests they have? Should we take to Netflix, Hulu, Disney that as consumers we want the shows we watch for the creators to be treated w dignity? Doesn’t seem like much to ask for. Thoughts?

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Award-winning, independent author here. More than ever, independent artists NEED DIRECT SUPPORT. Help them. "Reflect upon the Past. Embrace your Present. Orchestrate our Futures." --Artemis 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind’s journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul’s fate revealed. In time, all points converge, hope’s strength re-steeled. But to earn final peace at the universe’s endless refrain, We must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)

[@emPtysp4ce]

Both SAG-AFTRA and WGA have said there's no need for a consumer boycott yet, so I wouldn't worry too much about that. Make your voice in support heard, most definitely, but there's no need to drop them just yet unless the strikers call for it.

[@zippymufo9765]

@@emPtysp4ce No one's going to follow their lead anyway. There's a big difference between passive support and active sacrifices, and both WGA and SAG know that most people aren't going make those sacrifices. Why look like a fool calling for a consumer boycott that doesn't happen?

[@kkraut]

@@Novastar.SaberCombatWalmart may be hiring

[@CourtFisk-fs6zf]

I'm definetly up for writing a Netflix/Disney+/Peacock/Max/Hulu petition that makes clear we support the striking talent, and they should too.

[@sagesufferswell]

I think actors should start their own companies like Tyler Perry and create their own empires where they employ all the folks being displaced, give them a living wage and prove there's a better way. Either that or teaming up to make tiktoks and podcasts and all that jazz, cutting out the middle man and bringing their content straight to their fans.

[@nealaborgman2055]

Exactly. That is what Reese Witherspoon, Brad Pitt, Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Jessica Chastain etc. many A listers start doing a decade ago, starting their own production companies. They can set up and finance the production and put it out for sale of distribution. They control the salaries and what is fair to the actors/crew. Because their neck is on the line, there is probably slightly less fat and waste on their productions because it is their money/their risk. The cost of any production has gotten so out of hand, there needs to be an evaluation of how it can be more economical to make quality productions.......

[@MrLexanderluther1986]

But then distribution ends up being tied to these other bigger corporations. If the talent can own every facet of the creation process, then they have something. The big studios Weasley their way in by being a parent company of sorts to a lot of smaller production companies. Go full blown independent, from start to finish.

[@jmhorange]

@@nealaborgman2055 That won't solve the problem. First off, if you start your own company, you still have to compete with these multinational studios who have massive IP properties and their own streaming services to reach audiences, etc. Secondly, the issue isn't that actors or any workers don't need the people at the top. CEO's are important. But so are workers. If you start your own business, you are the CEO, and that solves your problem, but you still need to hire workers and they deserve a fair share of the profits.

[@GodSonBlessed]

Tyler Perry isn't much better than the Hollywood big players as far as paying actors and writers fairly.

[@apoclypse]

@@nealaborgman2055 But the "hard part" is shopping the content around. Netflix is still the 800 pound gorilla in the room, who is willing to spend on content and won't really get in the way or ask too much of the production company. The main thing Netflix wants is that if they bank roll the production, they need to own it. Which makes sense of you think about it. They still have issues with content disappearing from the platform and they don't want to have to negotiate every time with the production company just to keep the content on the platform (they lost all the Marvel shows they once had on the platform). It doesn't matter what the production companies do, it matters where users can get to the content and they still need to deal with the studio system, the streaming giants, and networks. Brad Pitt, Tyler Perry whatever don't have the expertise or capital to put together a streaming network and still be solvent at the end of it. It's expensive to build, expensive to maintain, and it requires a lot of content to be enticing to consumers.

[@terrylewis_]

Considering the amount of times I have watched Gilmore Girls, I certainly think they are owed much more. LOL I have rewatched that series practically every year since it came out in 2016 on Netflix. I also rewatch the OC, Dawson's Creek, Ally McBeal - most of which were on Netflix for an extended period.

[@carlabarrick8538]

Same, I've watched Gilmore Girls so much times on Netflix since 2016.

[@KTMcaptain]

So send him a check. Streaming is already more expensive than cable to hit all the big shows. Now you want to increase the cost some more. Uh no thank you. All that does is force Netflix to either increase cost or cut content (or some combination of the two).

[@terrylewis_]

@@KTMcaptain The thing is though, they HAVE been cutting content, raising prices and for what? They still are claiming they are recovering from the pandemic (who isn't?). The practices of the streaming services is heinous, I am talking on a bigger scale on the issues. Those at the top taking more and more, but no real changes are being made. I think they already charge too much.

[@KTMcaptain]

@@terrylewis_ it’s public knowledge, Netflix is operating on an 18% net profit margin. That’s actually fairly low, and any increase in their operating costs must cascade down to the end users. This isn’t McDonald serving 1000 customers a day saying the $300 in extra labor costs causes a burger to go up 30% in price. Why don’t we just pay every artist we listen to every day every song. It’s preposterous, self-serving, and hypocritical. I guarantee you these people aren’t paying someone every time they use some IP or likeness. Why aren’t the engineers behind Netflix being paid per app launch?

[@carlabarrick8538]

@@KTMcaptain It's a larger issue of labor in this country and this strike magnified what is corporate greed that is obscene plus so many other problems associated with that. If you don't want to support this important worker issue because it could personally effect you negatively in a small way in the short term or this doesn't affect your income so you don't care, fine. This thread you started is a waste of time on a beautiful Saturday because you came just to argue. But if we all don't support labor unions now, we are on a trajectory that isn't sustainable for the average person needing a living wage.

[@trenbriggs640]

I installed a toilet last month and was paid. Going forward I wanna be paid residuals every time someone flushes it.

[@melissamuse6125]

Didn't Mo'Nique try to tell us about Netflix? 😮🙄🥴😳😠

[@kharikhy-ree2242]

Im so very glad you brought her up. When she spoke about some of these very details she was dismissed for being angry and not worthy of being paid fairly.

[@celestenguyen8656]

Honest to truth , it is why I’ve cancelled my Netflix account and any other streaming platform that I feel is greedy and disingenuous. They’re not like H2O. I can live without.

[@wolverineiscool7161]

I can't live without netflix as long as stranger things series continues

[@MrBlueBot5]

​@wolverineiscool7161 you may want to rethink your statements

[@happyreally5313]

That’s stupid. If you cancel no one gonna get paid. They will not make new deals. If You are canceling cause the strike do it will make it worse.

[@fearless6947]

@@happyreally5313 he cancelled because of too many steaming sites and competition. They all want a piece of the pie. Netflix no longer has the whole pie, sometimes there isn't anything decent to watch. Having so many steaming sites cost money. If you want everything, you could pay up to $50 or $90 a month.

[@gumby7919]

They can’t reveal the numbers because the stocks will crash if investors find out how many of these shows bomb

[@ikexbankai]

The head of Netflix said during the height of OITNB that the show was making more money than GOTs. Netflix is definitely making money. And yeah some shows aren’t as big as others but they are definitely making money. The don’t want to release the numbers because they don’t want to oh the actors and the writers.

[@rosk.wilburn5847]

Uvalde texas bryan kohberger sandyhook = AMERICANS

[@rosk.wilburn5847]

Me gain markle

[@rosk.wilburn5847]

Epsteen island

[@rosk.wilburn5847]

Fraud

[@michelleeditor]

Using someone's likeness in perpetuity is exactly what NCAA athletes like Ed O'Bannon were suing over (and they didn't even get a one time fee). Now we have the NIL industry so Hollywood should be doing something similar for performers/models. Also there should be a residual based on views either a full episode or a pro-rated amount for a partial viewing of an episode

[@sinyamuthurajah1971]

Shut Hollywood down

[@Drayonis]

How are they going to pay "per view" when their aren't any commercials? They bought the product from the producer and after that they own it. Bring back commercials I guess and charge for advertising

[@rnettles6241]

I guess we can pay $100 a rental instead of $6.00. Make the pie bigger so everyone benefits (except the audience.)

[@DVDVAMPIRE01]

I think it's too late for that now. They already opened Pandora's Box with unlimited, instant, ad-free content and the 2020 shutdown just solidified it. What are Streaming Providers going to do? Increase subscriber fees?

[@freeloadingmf]

If subscriptions spike during a month when a new season of Orange is the New Black or Stranger Things airs, there needs to be a system that allows creatives to share in that successs. It's insane that actors who were actively in these massive award winning, subscription driving shows still had to get second jobs in the service industry to make ends meet. If shows don't do numbers, fair enough...no compensation. But they need to release streaming numbers and be transparent about which shows draw how many subs and thus bring in new money and those should share in the success.

[@Drayonis]

@freeloadingmf there's no way "a spike in subscriptions" is going to be able financially cover the over a million, actors, writers and stage workers involved in their streaming catalog.

[@fearless6947]

@@DVDVAMPIRE01 exact, I just leave. I ain't paying for 3 or 4 streaming sites. I also have to see who is charging cheaper

[@dre4311]

Netflix is a public company. The numbers are public. Revenue isn’t driven by viewership, it’s driven by subscription revenue. This is a dumb argument.

[@ludovician]

Between this and the delays on Squid Games 2, I am beginning to think Netflix might not be on the up and up.

[@danarzechula3769]

Beginning???

[@Tallacus]

Same thing can be said for those us at Amazon. We apparently had a successful Prime Day yet the company refuses to restore our cut hours. A lot of my co workers are on the brink of losing our healthcare let alone our diminishing pay checks.

[@FriendofDorothy]

"Employment" is romanticized in America as a noble thing, but we all know in our private thoughts it is serfdom for the sake of necessity.

[@nickmccoy85]

Watching the empire eat itself alive from the inside is the most entertaining thing to come outta hollywood in the past few years. Let's keep this entertainment going, guys, we have real problems to ignore

[@FindingTheForce]

“I thought maybe… you’d buy something nice… like a hat to make the other ladies go… Oooo…” Sean Gunn 🙌🏻😆

[@ashtonbanks5254]

God forbid actors make working class American salaries. I mean that would just be awful. Hollywood is so beyond tone-deaf.

[@kelex12]

There’s over 160,000 members in SAG. A lot of them make under $26,000 a year and if you make less than $26k you don’t get health insurance which is ridiculous. Not all actors are making millions of dollars.

[@chazzerous]

The vast majority didn’t qualify for health care last year - 87% in fact, which means around 139,000 members of SAG-AFTRA didn’t earn more than the $26k threshold required to qualify for health insurance

[@Tokamak3.1415]

@@kelex12 If you're making under $26K/yr in CA then by definition cannot be working full time. Expecting to make a living wage for working 2 days a week or 3 hours a day isn't going to cut it. I know there's money in the system to pay the workers more but as a willing employee you're giving your labor to an industry that has a bunch of hollow talking heads that preach pay your fair share and then end up paying the grip 1/10000 what the main actor makes. When the stars of Grey's Anatomy make 10-40x what real surgeons make then you know society has misplaced it's priorities. As long as people show up to Laker games that cost $200 per ticket the disparity will continue.

[@BrianLockett]

You're tone-deaf if you don't even listen to the thousands of "smaller guys" in Hollywood who are thankful for these actors lending their support to this issue. People let "Hollywood actor" paint their perception of Hollywood--most actors and behind-the-scenes production people (thousands upon thousands) aren't as rich or famous as a Tom Cruise or somebody. There are far more people making a far more modest living than you realize. The majority of the industry makes well under $100K a year. Besides, there are plenty of examples of even famous actors who came from working-class families. If I were someone with a relative who's in the industry (and I personally am), then I would _hope_ that one of us finds greater success in Hollywood. I'm not mad at high-profile actors here--those like Gunn are lending their support and doing what anyone would to help protect their livelihood. I'm madder at the greedy billionaire executives who would sell their souls plus the world for a dollar, if they could. (They kinda already do.)

[@PatrickColpron]

Netflix made 12.4 billions in net profit last year...and the same the year before. I strangely cancelled my Netflix subscription this spring because they seem to "throw pasta at the wall" to see what works, Sean Gunn makes quality movies, Netflix seems to lower the bar with their approach - for every gem you find on Netflix - you have to sift through a ton of mediocre "content" I'd rather purchase what I want via Apple, Google, etc., i.e. Sean Gunn's movies than pay a monthly subscription, knowing part of what I spend will surely trickle down to the people involve in the making of what I purchase, at least I hope so. And A.I. well that's another topic but a contemporary issue we will need to face in the coming years.

[@magefixler885]

It so refreshing to see a spokesman who is a true representative of the working class. Not somebody who has made his way in life using Nepotism & Hollywood connections. Nice to see a guy who made his own way, without the help of Hollywoods directors or producers.

[@EnglishProfStyle]

I agree up to a point. His brother is James Gunn so that might have given him a bit of an advantage being cast in Guardians.

[@vanessac1721]

I think you are being sarcastic because he literally only has a career because his brother, James Gunn, puts him in all his movies. A working class man he is not.

[@wishesandfishes]

True, but strong labor protections are one of the best ways to ensure that folks that /don't/ have nepotism connections are still able to make a living wage

[@Maddie9185]

I canceled my Netflix membership to show my support. I’ve been with Netflix since they first started so this was hard for me but this is important

[@keepcalm1224]

Much Respect to you. I'm considering that myself.

[@IamCree]

I wish i continued to get paid for something i did years ago. But the rest of us have to keep working to get paid. I want things to be fair for the actors, but it's hard to have sympathy

[@wishesandfishes]

Unfortunately, actors rely on those residuals to make a basic living. Work is too infrequent to live off of initial compensation. I used to work with a guy who played a major role in an academy award winning film, and he told me he didn't get a single job for 6 months after the shoot wrapped despite constant audition. So either studios have to pay significantly more upfront, or keep the residual system.

[@MiriamDandelion]

SAG should have given him a script or provided him with more eloquent talking points. I fully stand behind the actors and writers, but they need to be able to discuss the issues more clearly and specifically on the facts.

[@TheBarretNL]

I'm willing to believe times are changing drastically, but saying "They dont wanna talk andthus they are screwing us" is a bit narrow minded to assume, Only that what you can proof is what matters.

[@veksone77]

Netflix doesn't get paid per stream, they only get paid the one flat fee that each customer pays. If the actors want to get paid per stream they're going to have to add commercials to the platform and paying customers do not want that.

[@LipstickNWhiskey]

Exactly. It is unfortunate that it is coming at their expense, but they are completely glossing over the benefits that come with Streaming. One of the main reasons we got rid of cable was because it was too expensive to continue watching mostly commercials.

[@Harcorwrestler]

What you do is pay a higher premium for no ads. People will fight that but pay it eventually. KZbin did that and they are thriving with their no ad premium service. There’s always a solution if you look for one.

[@Raquelsj100]

No on artificial intelligence!

[@michaeld.williamsiii9026]

I completely agree!!!😐💯😐

[@wnsjimbo2863]

Well not on you to chose

[@Raquelsj100]

@wnsjimbo2863 Yes, it is Union strong 💪 !

[@kyleteal5888]

Drop names of who is striking. These actors need to look at what computers did for industrial jobs. CNC got rid of regular jobs. Shut up and deal.

[@donniegrip2119]

The CEO’s are making money hand over fist!!! We, as a IATSE/ LOCAL 80 Member! And the rest of the real Movie Magic contributors!!! We shall be heard and compensated once and for all!!! These studio executives and producers are going to realize they can not make motion pictures, television, commercials and ect. Without us!!!👊🏽👊🏽☝️☝️🙌🏽🙌🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@jonnyfendi2003]

so this guys brother James Gun is not some studio exec????? hes in charge of the whole damn dc universe movies at warner brothers for crying out loud.

[@donniegrip2119]

@@jonnyfendi2003 Yes we know who’s who! Talking about the CEO’s and the Studio Executives! The higher up the ones that are not willing to negotiate anything right now! The ones that make the money and the decisions….

[@OAFDesignStudio]

I'm a below the line worker. we have to keep our heads up and be willing to stand strong. Greedy capitalist will always want more. They are counting on us being desperate and succumbing to the economic pressures imposed on us. If Workers give in to them now. They will never stop until we are all working for $10/hr or less. That ultimately is their dream.

[@sarahfaithrinehart1]

i love sean. always have.

[@RayMarzFilms]

There is another reason Netflix would not want to publish the numbers. It would reveal when a show that cost millions to make is a total failure, that happens more often than not. That would be bad for Netflix.

[@ellenachavez6492]

Gonna be cancelling NETFLIX pretty soon here. NETFLIX charges too much for them not to pay the SAG-AFTRA.

[@hle144]

Yeah, us in the music biz went through this 20 years ago with Napster.. The gig is over with royalties. Time to adapt and re invent..

[@angelinamclaughlin-heil]

Wow! I had no idea. So obvious they are not being fair to the actors and writers!

[@TheCommunicationCoach]

"...for better residual pay..."? You get paid then, just not enough now that streaming has taken over movies and tv? Lots of other jobs out there!

[@artieo5339]

I support them too I just don’t understand the economics behind how actors and writers will get proper compensation on streaming. If one person watches 100 episodes and movies in one month that’s still only a $20 revenue. So what would be the proper compensation? I’m curious how writers and actors are compensated for original content.

[@ani703]

If the show they are streaming has ads then presumably the streaming service is getting ad revenue for each of the ads aired during those 100 episodes (just like a TV company gets ad revenue when it airs ads during old reruns of Friends or Seinfeld). But we don’t know exactly because the streaming services don’t really reveal how it works. I think that’s why Sean Gunn said there needs to be transparency.

[@ani703]

*TV network

[@artieo5339]

@@ani703 ad based content is easy to calculate compensate for as that could work similarly as tv. But my original question remains. How would they compensate then? $0.01 per stream? For all writers and actors involved in that show? That’s a lot of expense.

[@TheMa5cmpb]

In my opinion the license holder should pay the residuals. For example, if Netflix licenses SWAT from CBS, then CBS should be responsible for paying the residuals.

[@artieo5339]

Apple Music and Amazon music share a similar operation to Netflix. Music instead of tv/movies. How do they compensate for their streams?

[@freeloadingmf]

For music there actually IS a system in place to pay per stream. It's not a lot, but it's there.

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

Not enough from what I’ve read by musicians. Most of them have to continuously tour and sell merch to make a living. They don’t get paid much for the ‘listen time’ on streaming services.

[@mileshilmes1384]

Majority of American's make less than 15 dollars per hour. Gimmie break, Hollywood!

[@Waveforces316]

Do more research if you want to judge - many many actors you would recognize make less than 26k per year

[@Orbt_]

@@Waveforces316 OK and? Acting is not saving the universe. And you have real professionals such as Teachers who make less.

[@Kpictures_NYC]

This also goes for independent filmmakers.

[@juancarlosjuarezangulo7594]

The issue here is if the actors/team want to get a share on benefits it has to be on the movie. Mark % of share from sales/reproduction like part of investing on the product itself; and that is the sham if there are risks to be shared evenly and the profits / Talk about it from start and sign a contract on it like musical industry

[@stevenhenry5267]

Two different industries with different issues. The idea that actors and writers should share in the risk is ludicrous.

[@Pascal9004]

I feel bad for the performers. Streaming's been spending too much money putting out too much content instead of paying the actors what they deserve. We don't need an infinite library of content but a curated set of good shows where actors get fair compensation.

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

This right here

[@mfit7110]

Black guy should’ve asked him “So Sean what’s your opinion on Reparations?”

[@annemontanaro3795]

Ok let me try and understand this. When an actor does a movie he or she gets money for their acting and most often ask for a percentage of the box office proceeds. Netflix purchases the rights to show the movie but isn't technically a theater so all the cash goes to the production company with nothing going to the actors. Mmmm well contractual agreements with the Production company have to change I would imagine so the actors get a percentage of the sale to Netflix or any media identified as a streaming service theater, social platform or internet based entertainment service or television Network In the long run it would depend on who OWNS the rights to the movie wouldn't it as to the entity who controls money paid for the purpose of ownership. On the AI question actors have to include clauses prohibiting reproduction of their image, their voice, reproduction of their characters image or voice for the movie and that movie being shown on any streaming service, theater or Network etc. The new agreement has to include that and I would imagine much more.

[@universalmeditation8631]

They hire a company (they own) to distribute films and claim the money is exhausted in distribution… the original star wars actors still haven’t received royalties from that very successful movie. The royalties went directly to ocean front properties in La Jolla, Newport, Malibu and Santa Barbara. The producers walked away with your millions.

[@davidgast3175]

I understand his point, but I can't help but think this is all going to be pushed onto the consumers in the form of even higher streaming service subscription costs.

[@MrBertWayne]

*CORRECTION, SEAN GUNN IS "NOT" THE STAR OF GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY.. CHRIS PRATT IS.*

[@DRNeKky]

Netflix and hulu is about to be 120$ a month each

[@txbre8758]

lol no

[@KISSMIBUT27]

You get what you negotiate. Stop complaining. You don't own the film. You are an employee, wake up!!

[@Aj-rj2vx]

I feel for the actors..however if they get their way streaming services are going to cost so much more..

[@stevenhenry5267]

Ridiculous

[@fearless6947]

exactly, then people will also leave steaming. It's a double edge sword. Other streaming sites will use AI. Zuckeberg launched threads to compete with twitter, why? because if Elon makes an everything app, it could take facebooks market share. At the end of the day, business is business

[@radupopescu2370]

Considering what garbage scripts Hollywood films have been using for the last 10 years, maybe an AI script isn't such a bad thing :))))

[@mileys2936]

These actors have no clue what real working class Americans make. Actors make a large sum of money for a single episode. Working class Americans don't get residual pay for completed jobs, why should actors.

[@user-lr5ys4nk5w]

Dude...netflix is a publically traded company. You can read their tax filing. It comes down to contracts, and obviously there are some crappy ones out there.

[@relighg]

Honestly I sympathize and fully support all the actors and writers. That being said, I think what Netflix really does is genius. They definitely disturbed the old model and replaced it with something that the consumers totally want. Comfort and choice. Netflix releases new projects every week and they even produce their own exclusive content viewable only in the platform. And for a fraction of the price compared to when you go to a movie theater. Imagine we only pay USD 5/month for access to all their films and series wc is a pretty good bargain. So I don't know how the union and production studios can resolve this.

[@ElizabethFranquiEsq]

The resolution will result in us paying more for the subscription to Netflix or other streaming platforms. Part of Netflix's success involves getting licenses to stream the shows at a cheap license fee. We pay a subscription to watch whatever we want. If the studio charges Netflix for a license and surcharge say per 1000 views and the surcharge can be paid to the actors in residuals.

[@relighg]

@@ElizabethFranquiEsq that's definitely a good idea for sure

[@Kitkat-wu3ow]

Ultimately, if the union gets their way... The consumers will always be the one paying for it.

[@innocentrage1]

​@@Kitkat-wu3owtime to sail the 7 seas argh

[@MrBlueBot5]

​@@Kitkat-wu3owI completely with your statements

[@debbiecoumaros9662]

I'm torn over their issues. None of these big actors who get 25 million+ per picture is even present. Why should they get more anyways I am like 50/50 on this strike.

[@DougiePlaysSoccer]

Also, the high paid actors want more money, and those beneath them want more money. Shouldn’t it be up to the “celebrities” to negotiate higher pay for the less fortunate. They’re guilty by association. I don’t understand this.

[@rnettles6241]

I agree. They want the CEOs to take a major cut in pay to help the writers, but say nothing about Tom Cruise and other A listers making the same pay.

[@Darcsied27]

😂 If you want to know how much Netflix is making just look at their freaking annual report because they’re a publicly traded company!!!!

[@bryerstanton6693]

I'll make Sean a deal. When Mcdonalds and Walmart workers start getting residual pay for completed jobs, then we can talk.

[@michaelmclain7049]

not the same, not even remotely similar.

[@wnsjimbo2863]

​@@michaelmclain7049true , Walmart employees work harder

[@Dunybrook]

Doesn't his brother run another studio that wants to do the same thing as Netflix if they could?

[@stevechance150]

If I buy Lord of the Rings, i can watch it everyday for the rest of my life. Frodo, (Elijah Wood) doesn't get a little money every time I watch it. Why should Netflix keep paying forever, after they bought the film?

[@freeloadingmf]

Because their customers pay every month to stream it. The customers don't 'buy' a netflix subscription one time and never pay again. So why should actors and writers only get paid once, while executies get paid huge bonuses... When networks bought shows, creatives got paid every time it aired. Netflix should pay based on monthly streams or something.

[@datatsushi2016]

@@freeloadingmf For the same reason you only get paid once if you're an electrician and you fix someone's doorbell. Should the customer keep paying you every time someone rings it? It's ridiculous You do a job and you get paid for it on a contract YOU signed. You can either decline the job or not.

[@freeloadingmf]

@@datatsushi2016 It's a different business and it was built that way from the start. It's like saying oh well customers don't have to tip and if the waiters can't survive on what the owner gives them, they should quit.

[@datatsushi2016]

@@freeloadingmf It wasn't built like that from the start at all. Some actors (based on how well known and succesful they are) have the choice between getting a one time BIG salary OR a smaller salary, but with residuals... If you're a lesser known actor then you're not gonna paid as much as a big time actor for a single job. That's life. Making it as an actor is extremely hard (as every succesful actor will tell you) so if you take the risk to pursue that career based on the very small chance that you'll be the next Deniro or Cruise then that's on you im afraid. What are these actors actually making on projects? It's funny they say that Netflix refuses to tell how much money they actually make, yet these actors on strike aren't sharing that info neither. A bit hypocritical ain't it?

[@SofiaTHEfIRST1873]

Isn’t Gunn behind Aquaman?! The huge budget. No thanks bruh

[@kowanmcgarry]

Isn’t it illegal for a production company or studio to hide their earnings. Shouldn’t they go to jail for that. Why isn’t Netflix stopped. Any other company who does this should be stopped also.

[@Hedgehobbit]

That actor dude mispoke. Netflix does release their earnings. What they don't release is the total number of views that each show gets. They don't need to release that info because they aren't paid per view.

[@hiroshikari]

Don’t get mad at Netflix for a deal the studios made with them. Netflix pays upfront. That’s their model. They get money off subscriptions not views. If you want to be paid per view on Netflix then Netflix will have to move towards an Ad model. This is something no one is talking about. Do you want an Ad or two before each episode of The Office? Streaming and the studio model are not the same. If you want to keep the ad free model then residuals will go the way of the dinosaurs, VHS tapes and DVDs. Pay talent more yes but in the current model, residuals is unfeasible unfortunately. Don’t shoot the messenger. I would much rather have the old model with better products. Bring back the 80s/90s 😢

[@ron_gaming_adventure]

I’m Marry Poppins y’all

[@SkyVega-lp7rq]

Love Sean even more now than ever.

[@michaelmonthey5974]

This is changing my perspective on streaming.

[@wturner777]

Same, and not in a good way. Streaming once was a blessing is now becoming a curse.

[@michaelmonthey5974]

@@wturner777 Absolutely!

[@stevenorr54]

So well spoken; totally with you brothers and sisters! RIGHT ON...Long overdue...transparency is the key...the elephant in the room obviously!

[@IanZainea1990]

If they're not making any money, they have nothing to worry about because as he said, it's profit sharing!

[@codyj9983]

Sounds like they should be mad at the movie production companies that sold the movie, not Netflix.

[@codyj9983]

And why didnt the actors get any percentage from the sale of the movie to Netflix? That is also not netflix's fault.

[@CulturalBreakdown]

The studios don't want to release streaming numbers. Actors want to use 3rd party sites for streaming numbers to calculate residuals. 3rd party sites tend to skew high and would result in absurdly high residuals. If the studios released the numbers they would be much lower than they've led shareholders to believe. Investors will jump ship, the streaming services will have to cut back on projects, and the actors will lose work. Unless one actually believes streaming services are the one portion of the entertainment industry not facing a decline even though they're consistently raising prices.

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

How would you know what the "true" numbers are WHEN STUDIOS ARE NOT FORCED BY LAW TO REVEAL THEM?

[@wnsjimbo2863]

​@@theultimatereductionist7592 why should be forced by law ? Should we force you by law to show us how much money you make ?

[@MrKMilano]

Dave Chappell told us what had happen to him. Now, his story has become the majorities lite torch. Listen to other entertainers that has walked away from certain deals that benefits the majority.

[@Tim_Beitel]

This whole strike has really shown us who among the A-list actors/movie stars are the real “friends” of their colleagues, the working actors. It’s been disappointing to see some of my favorite actors, people whose work I respect, still promoting their movies (despite SAG-AFTRA’s explicit instructions not to do so once the union went on strike. I’m looking at you, RDJ) rather than using their celebrity to put pressure on the studio bosses to do the right thing and renegotiate a better deal so they and everyone else can get back to work. Good on you Sean. Hold the line

[@jeffs6090]

They're promoting their movies that have already been done and have been or soon will be released. Why wouldn't you want them to try to reap the benefits of a project already completed?

[@Tim_Beitel]

@@jeffs6090 SAG-AFTRA told them not to. Because it’s doing the studios a favor by promoting THEIR movie and thereby putting more money into THEIR coffers

[@sboeke91]

Netflix does list their earnings, as it is a publicly traded company. So we know that had a net income of $1.4 Billion for Q1. It is unclear how that money is made. What shows in particular are earning that money. Why can’t the actors/writers get a piece of that profit? Sean’s point is valid. Let them share in the success and failure.

[@fearless6947]

Disney, HBO, Apple, Hulu and amazon will copy that model, if they have that kind of data on which shows makes money.

[@ex7229]

I stand in solidarity with you . When seeing actors unable to buy their new yachts I knew deep down I was being selfish and problematic. If only I could of seen my bigotry and narrow world view sooner lives could be saved. These people are literally starving to death and dying in the streets and here I am showing up for work everyday working for this dangerous capitalist society. The only move forward is to donate 40% of my earnings and have my children eat top ramen to pay for my transgressions. Imagine a world where people have to use skill and change to the current times without lecturing their audience about how terrible people they are , quite frankly thats a terrifying world I know anyone with access to 1000 other forms of entertainment do not want to live in. Namaste and bless all these brave and courageous souls for having the virtue, love and intelligence of quitting their jobs while us regular folks are forever in debt to this magnificent beautiful ritual against evil innovation and hard work. I speak for the average man woman and non binary ally everywhere who cant imagine losing the opportunity of great hits such as she hulk, rings of power, cuties, strange world, the disney live action movies and all the other great box office hits the past decade. Imagin3 a world where children cannot be with minor attracted adults and grooming was considered gross. Thank you all for shedding light on all the VALUE you offer and that we will only be left with 1000 other things to do with our lives. I pity anyone who doesn't care for this cause. Thank you -Out of touch peon with 1000 other ways to entertainment themselves in these turbulent times

[@KTMcaptain]

Netflix does report Revenue and Net Profits. You own your likeness, until you sell or lease it. Those are on your own terms.

[@DonJuanDecepticon]

They do not

[@KTMcaptain]

@@DonJuanDecepticon they do, simple google search away. It’s literally a legal obligation to their shareholders. Perhaps if you weren’t brain dead by default this would be more obvious.

[@Batman-vr6jp]

Hard to calculate streaming money... It's all subscription

[@wturner777]

But it's no excuse. These people deserve fair residuals, whether it's on live TV or streaming.

[@PatrickEvina4891]

It’s actually not that hard. For example, if 1,000 accounts watch “You” more than 50% of the time that they’re logged into Netflix, the talent involved on the show should get a cut of the subscription fees from those 1,000 accounts. That’s one way of being fair to your writers and actors. (That’s actually how TV actors keep getting paid during reruns, based on the number of viewers - which is a number that influences fees for commercials that play during each episode.)

[@AtlantaGuns]

Is it fault of Netflix or the production company though? Netflix made a deal with the production company. Sounds to me it’s the production company’s fault.

[@KJ-xc6qs]

The gravy train has crashed. AI spits out scripts in 10 minutes while CGI fills in the action and talent. Can't stop progress.

[@yupcrazy...5465]

I for one feel very horrible when I hear about wealthy actors not being paid enough ....

[@stevenhenry5267]

Except the vast majority of the people on strike are not even close to being wealthy.

[@sweetmusic3821]

Look at the credits on a typical movie or TV show. There are so many people in those credits beyond the stars who get the top billing. This strike is about what all the people are receiving via streaming--not just the stars.

[@marcriggs8773]

So if the studios lose money on a show the actors will pay the studios to help offset their loses? Lol yea right! Actors just want the studios to take all the risk but also want the reward. You can’t have it both ways.