Sean Schemmel's Opinion About Team Four Star.

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Sean Schemmel was asked what does he think of Team Four Star. Sean doesn't like how TFS uses someone else's animation for their own business model. He stated that Toei and Funimation don't support it and told them to stop, they don't.
2020 Edit: Well Team Four Star has announced that they're stopping Dragon Ball Z Abridged after 60 episodes and are now doing Parody Shorts. I wish them the best.
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[@itsrectimemedia]

I am shocked to hear about Akira Toriyama’s passing. DragonBall changed my life and millions of people. Thank you Master. Rest in Peace.

[@tic-tocgamingandguides5146]

I'm In the same boat brother, keep the spirits up

[@itsrectimemedia]

@@tic-tocgamingandguides5146I’ll be at an Anime Con in 2 weeks, Sean other DBZ VAs will be there, they’ll probably do a Tribute.

[@kentgearner]

If only TFS would encourage people to support the official release.

[@jeffjefferson3364]

I'll give them that they do encourage support of the official media, but I think the issue is probably that the TFS version is just better than the original, and while it wouldn't work without the original work having been made it still improves on it. It's the definitive version of DBZ

[@derpizzaman1050]

@@jeffjefferson3364 watched dbz when I was a kid, but now dbza is the definitive version for me

[@thewatcher7094]

To be fair I did support the official release as I did by the manga and I think that some parts are better in the real release and some in the abridged

[@Horatio787]

@@jeffjefferson3364 TFS is actually a big part of what keeps me interested enough in the series to want to read the manga eventually. Yeah I watch DBZA more, but their love for the show is infectious.

[@blueeyeswhitevegeta]

I know right? Or I wish they would tell you that it's non profit so you don't have to research it, or they could tell us who owns the original series

[@sora.eats.newspaper5990]

As guru said “every party needs a pooper that’s why they invited you”

[@primalchick]

Honey Noodle party poopeerrrr. Party poopeerrrr

[@moa4185]

Kiwi In Wonderland -‘Lord Gur-‘ -‘Why are YOU STILL HEEEERE’

[@turbosaiyan93]

"I am hillarious, and you will quote, everything, I, saaaaaayyy..."

[@mulberryH]

Naiiiiiiiiiiiil

[@darthmaul7477]

“Party popper party pooper” Naillllllllllllllllllll

[@cardinalhamneggs5253]

Goku’s official English VA, 2019: “As the official voice of Goku, it’s hard to get behind DBZ Abridged.” Vegeta’s official English VA, 2014: *appears as the Narrator in TFS’ **_Super Android 13 Abridged_*

[@AlphaAlarmClock]

Which was weird cause when I met him he seemed way too professional

[@Zthrox116]

no no, that was DJSexcidillionaire, sir.

[@spikytoaster]

2014 and 2019 are literally 5 years apart. Sh*t changes dont act like it doesn't.

[@GodshuYT124]

@@Zthrox116he was going under that

[@RedNiel100]

@@GodshuYT124 Dude..... scshshshshhshshshs

[@TheJjcczz]

Sean had actually supported DBZA prior to this referencing their jokes and saying he enjoyed them. He only backtracked after finding out Toei didn’t like DBZA and kept taking it down. Which fair play to him I wouldn’t want to lose my job over something like that either

[@asagara34]

Absolutely. Sean is stating his opinion from a professional standpoint. he admits it's funny but he seems like a careful guy and is trying to choose his words carefully to not piss funaimtion or toei. Even if it is legal it's still mabye a sour subject at either fo the studios and while other actors do like it, Sean seems the type where carefully sdes but no way he's being an asshole here.

[@ImCroozy]

He couldn't lose his job he's Goku himself

[@ericfranklin1802]

I’d believe that if Chris Sabat didn’t whole heartedly support/love TFS. Sounds more to me like Sean is a bit of a egotist and thinks he’s the only one who should voice Goku, the fair use comment is bullshit as otherwise dbza would have been taken down a decade ago.

[@jesset1762]

@@yoketah fr. they already recast English Goku. the ocean dub was the original english dub and they recast to the current cast when funimation took the reins.

[@leosnyder5264]

​@@asagara34do you think FUNimation even gives a s*** about the fandubs because if they did why would they hire the actors on to work on voice roles for dragon Ball xenoverse 2ook it up

[@Bob-ow4ju]

I met Sean in person at an event in Toronto. I thought it was strange that his line up was exceedingly shorter than Christopher Sabbat’s. After listening to him give these two fans in front of me a pep talk on why to not do steroids it was my turn to meet him. It turns out he’s an extremely normal person.. which is perfectly fine, I shouldn’t have put him so high up in my expectations. We had a boring conversation about nothing and that was that. I grabbed a picture and went on my way disappointed. And then I met Christopher Sabbat after sitting in his huge line up. Oh my god was he the coolest person ever. He stole my phone from me and recorded a video of himself forcing me to scream as if I was transforming into a super Sayian, and then he joined in with me. Chris then asked about the woman with me being my wife and I replied that she was indeed. He then said in his Vegeta voice “as the prince of all sayians I now bless your marriage”. We talked even more about a couple different things and I left with my faith renewed. Incredible experience.

[@thaddeuscheeleyjr.369]

Tl;dr Vegeta is a better character than goku both in show and reality. In other news, water is a liquid.

[@dangerousboxx666]

And also sean is a huge pussy and a beta male. This vic incident is shedding light on that.

[@ColonelSanders17]

I would like to meet Chris. Seems like a chill dude

[@itsrectimemedia]

@@ColonelSanders17 Chris is basically All Might in person. I met him last year.

[@itsrectimemedia]

@bob Chris is basically All Might in person.

[@anotherdrummingenigma2882]

Sean: I can't watch them cause there's a different Goku voice. Chris Sabat: Their shit is hilarious. I am actually jealous that they get to make fun of that old dub and we can't.

[@goofyahhvalstraxproductions]

I guess the roles are different from how they are in the anime

[@asharinganfortheages9691]

Just another reason to love Chris sabat.

[@trashygamer7014]

Sean: Blah blah blah "Its funny and entertaining" Me: ah so you like it, but TOEI said aye slander that shit or you're fired

[@jamesmcgiffin8782]

Wow sabat actually being right about something, still a shit human being, and funimation is a shit company. I hate that I'm used to these voices because I dont want to support their stupidity and toxicity.

[@justjosh9353]

@@jamesmcgiffin8782 Are you talking about Sabat being crap or...?

[@Akirilus]

He doesn't give a damn, he's seen the parodies and laughted like we all did but he's a business man and has to act in a certain way.

[@The_Bean_Daddy]

I thought he gave a smart answer where he clearly shows he's on the side of his employer, but also gives credit to TFS without undercutting those who sign his paychecks. He could have very easily have just said "screw TFS I don't support it" and left it at that.

[@Akirilus]

@@The_Bean_Daddy Yea, most likely. I doubt most people care and TFS only added to dragon ball's popularity overall so the old executives from Japan that are probably up in arms about this should shut the hell up and enjoy the tons of money they're making.

[@TakeshiInazuma]

​@Akirilus Then again, Dragon Ball could make money with or without TFS. All DBZA managed to do was bring DBZ back, but created a lot of misconceptions.

[@Akirilus]

@@TakeshiInazuma Eh at this point with how much fan fic we have out there... it doesn't even matter.

[@Tandran]

Care to explain Vegeta's VA openly supporting them and appearing in Super Android 13?

[@sorakekevii]

Sean: Funimation doesn’t like what TFS does Funimation: *Hires TFS Final Fantasy 7 Abridged Voice Actor of Cloud, Justin Briner who voice acts Izuku Midoriya in My Hero Academia* Wha?

[@itsrectimemedia]

I meant to talk to Justin Briner about that, his line at Cons is usually packed and I'm usually busy covering the Con, hopefully this year.

[@sorakekevii]

steven alvarez it’s completely harmless for the TFS parodies. It’s all for fun, so Sean is making a big deal for no reason

[@inksicle2533]

@@itsrectimemedia i talked to him at a con once, surprisingly he told me he was working at funimation Before voicing cloud on machinabridged. The tfs crew reached out to him to voice cloud because of their already close attachment with the company.

[@lucassmith7484]

WAIT REALLY IVE NEVER WATCH FINAL FANTASY 7 MACHINABRIDGED

[@personman2454]

Not to mention the main crew literally had a cameo in Kai. It was cut yeah, but they still were in there.

[@7thHourFilms]

I feel like this should be titled "Sean Schemmel is contractually obligated to not like Team Four Star."

[@PabloAndresDealbera]

It's called working for a corporation. I don't get why people are so mad about what he says. It's obvious he can't endorse it, but even in the situation in which he is, he says it's kind of funny.

[@FullcircleFaith]

And it’s ironic that in the past couple years teamfourstar has really grown as a company and blown up into a high status, successful financially company and all that, in part because of there connections made with Chris Sabat and funimation in Texas. Heck they even all moved to Texas and have a huge office close by funimation hq.

[@KIRIGAMI666]

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[@KyanbuXM]

I don't know, this feels like he means it this time.

[@saiyanpride3199]

Yeah i get not being contracually allowed to approve of vocally but he went on to basically down it as if he genuinely doesnt like it. He didnt have to go that far to avoid breaching contract. Plus hes the same guy whos on youtube also having a very different opinion from a few years ago, and saying "muffin button" with no problem, a line from tfs. He expressed in that interview however that he was then worried that funimation would eventually make a stink about tfs

[@adrianjem7188]

He definitely had a gun to his head when he had to say this

[@CanalDoRyu]

"Leave the multibillion dollar company alone guys"

[@ArtoriasStormcock]

"Leave the multibillion dollar company alone that finances my bread and butter and livelyhood guys"

[@CanalDoRyu]

@@ArtoriasStormcock Yeah I remember when Sean Schemmel wasn't able to eat because TFS released a DBZ Abridged episode that day

[@DaViPignatti]

​​@@CanalDoRyuEu vi que vc é br entao vou te responder em português mesmo kkkkkkkk Não é que o Sean Schmell fica sem comer quando o team four star posta um ep de dba, a questão é que nesse momento ele tava em um evento público onde os fãs faziam perguntas, e que tava sendo gravado. Ele não tem controle do que os fãs vão perguntar pra ele. E quando um fã faz uma pergunta do que ele acha sobre o dba, ele simplesmente não pode dizer que apoia, sabendo que a empresa dona do programa de mais sucesso que ele provavelmente ja dublou é contra. Ele pode literalmente perder o emprego dele.

[@CanalDoRyu]

@@DaViPignatti Mas o Christopher Sabat que também trabalha pra mesma empresa e fala publicamente que adora DBZA, até interage diretamente com a TFS em eventos e tudo. Acho que não tem nada a ver e é só o Sean que é chato mesmo.

[@pigeonb3443]

@@CanalDoRyu He works for a company, that company pays him. When you grow older you will realize that signing A4 format pieces of paper actually means a lot in this world. When you go against what they have told you in that piece of paper, you could lose your job, why? Because of a question a fan made and you were too eager yo reply to it. You should look into how many times Christopher actually said that about Abridged, if he said it only once that would be the reason Sean said all of what you disagree with, if he said it more than once, then my whole argument goes in the trash bin.

[@paddyofurniture9523]

Sean: I've grown attached to the character, and I don't appreciate how he is portrayed Also Sean: Lmao I'm gonna order a pizza as Goku idgaf

[@angelxxx5185]

Goku would proably do that any way

[@Maikigai]

It also depends on what version the character he’s talking about. His dub version is WAY different then the original Japanese version and Super is different from the DBZ version. DBZA is a parody version, but even the most hardcore fans adore the parody version. Sean’s logic is is horribly flawed.

[@hernanperez6550]

Not to mention the homophobic stuff, don't get me wrong I just think he was messing around.but goes to show he is a hypocrite

[@M_ZS19]

How he is portrayed now lets look at does leaks

[@ajscrewu]

@@M_ZS19 prepare the sacred ointment!

[@No-cx8po]

After TFS episode 60: The fans stop supporting the official release.

[@Danish-ox5te]

This comment is underrated🗿

[@thelivingshado5]

Sorely underrated comment.

[@joshuaeason3426]

I get your point but I disagree. I actually started watching super because of my love for DBZA. I love it

[@No-cx8po]

@@joshuaeason3426 r/whooosh

[@thedevilsrockstxr2309]

we did?

[@JDHD99]

“The following is a NON PROFIT fan-based parody”

[@evanalmighty5554]

I LOVED DBZ as a kid. I LIKED DBZ as an adult. TFS rekindled the LOVE I had for the series.

[@donavanroldan5536]

“It’s not very legal” actually it’s 100% protected by parody law

[@ghostlegendoftheend5525]

Ohhh suck it Sean

[@fae7806]

I mean yeah, but you gotta udnerstand him. FUNimation probably told him: "ey, talk trash about TFS". He is forced to say that, he is getting paid for this

[@guard4617]

@@fae7806 yeh deadass he probably actually likes it considering he said it’s funny and entertaining.

[@saintillie3069]

@Kyle Katarn yes I believe so, how much I don't know

[@puglife3270]

@@fae7806 I thought Funimation had no problem with tfs and Funimation actually hired some of them to be voice actors cause of how well they did with the voices of DBZ abridged

[@jorgegfigueroa9755]

Pros: - Admits Teamfourstar is talentated despite disagreements. - Legal contract to being Goku is also his personal loyalty because he loves the character as he is, which has some honor. - Asks fans to refrain rather than being disrespectful like telling them to "seriously just shut up about this" or "I'm annoyed of people asking me because I don't care." - Goes into detail so he gives legitimate reasoning and avoids assumptions. Cons (no pun intended): - Doesn't acknowledge (or perhaps know about in his defense) the opening of each episode giving credibility to every production studio and Akira Toriyama as well as Teamfourstar stating they're fans parodying the franchise. - Doesn't acknowledge longtime friend and co-worker Christopher Sabat (Vegeta/Piccolo) supports the franchise. - Doesn't acknowledge Kyle Hubert (Gohan) works with them. Although in his defense he may not know this. - Funimation was impressed by voice actors from Teamfourstar and hired them for dub characters, a major contradiction to his word on legal reasons when it comes to certain production studios. Conclusion: Sean Schemmel answered fairly and clearly has a desire to be faithful to the character's accuracy and legal circumstances, but lacks perspective in regards to Teamfourstar and how much they love Dragonball being a parody that's entertaining but overall respectful to the franchise.

[@native6911]

FINALLY!! SOMEONE WHO LOOKS AT BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY!!! Thank you man cuz all I’ve seen in the comments are either people hating TFS or hating Sean Schemmel

[@jorgegfigueroa9755]

@@native6911 sure! I'm a fan of both but I'd like to the see it the best way I can (I'm not Sean's best friend and I don't work with TFS (either of which would be amazing!!!) but I just want to put everything in perspective rather than be a biased and degrade anyone (including fellow Dragonball fans)).

[@charliespurr7325]

Remove one sin for honesty :p

[@timstephens5893]

@@jorgegfigueroa9755 I wish EVERYONE would have your perspective, not just with DB or TFS but life in general. So many people look at things 1 sided. It is beneficial to EVERYONE when you can see things from another person's perspective.

[@Doomcrew-vb3rp]

Very well said. 100% agree with your analysis and breakdown.

[@no_namerson]

“I take the character very seriously” Proceeds to say f slur multiple times while in a recording booth in Goku's voice.

[@huguesdepayens807]

Lmao "f slur"

[@Xavieus]

@@huguesdepayens807 I mean that's a good way to refer to that word without saying it cause youtube gay lol. I also agree with him, Sean shouldn't be such a hypocrite. I honestly don't care how edgy he gets in the recording booth but I do have a problem when he starts getting on his moral high horse of "I take the character very seriously".

[@Danny_Ko]

@@Xavieus I think he just wants to stay on the Toei/FUNimation's good side. They do not like it, so he's probably repeating what he has heard from corporate. He says it's funny and entertaining. Most likely coming from a work standpoint, it's beneficial for him to not support it.

[@TheTideKing004]

​@Danny_Ko, after the way he many others treated vince, they lost all my respect.

[@NewMrLiberty777]

@@Danny_Kowhy

[@yourfreemusicworld6491]

You would have never thought the guy who voices a character as loving easy going and carefree as goku would turn out to be the exact opposite as goku.

[@trentwise3762]

it's not his fault. his bosses have hated the show for years and have probably warned him about promoting the shows, which he has before. and in the entertainment industries it's super easy to get replaced

[@gothicbbmelvin]

@@trentwise3762 buddy, there's more than one example of him being a douche. He is 100% hamming it up because he himself has issues beyond how Toei feels about the show. Look up what he did to one of the previous official dub voice actors for Goku. This guy is one of the biggest jerks in the entire voice acting industry.

[@TimmyMcGowan]

@@trentwise3762while it’s perfectly logical and understandable to sell out, that doesn’t mean you get a pass for it

[@trentwise3762]

@@TimmyMcGowan he isn’t selling out. He’s keeping his job. I don’t understand you’re argument. You want him to lose his job of a lifetime in order to voice his support for a parody of a show that his company has asked them not to produce but they do anyway??

[@TimmyMcGowan]

@@trentwise3762 you realize what selling out is right? It’s doing something against your own beliefs to appease authority for your own personal gain. He deserves criticism for it. Nobody’s saying he should lose his job or do anything different, but the price of doing this is people saying you’re full of shit. It’s the deserved consequence. Also Sabat does publicly like them, so you’re just making up that he’d lose his job if he did

[@nanatelukYT]

Sean: I hate TFS Sabat: I love TFS

[@lunariousmoon]

Sabat is a Kind Person, He can litterally understand a joke

[@tylervalor6295]

This just reaffirms why I like vegeta over goku

[@lunariousmoon]

@@tylervalor6295 me too, There was a poll of Main charecters on Reddit and I didn't even bother to choose Goku

[@logan7805]

@@lunariousmoon I love how the actor for Goku acts like Vegeta (stubborn and mean) in real life and the actor for Vegeta acts like Goku (kind and nice) in real life.

[@anlantico]

@@lunariousmoon Sabat is not kind at all, do you know the whole Vic situation?

[@superchamploo1155]

Too bad. DBZA is like a love letter to the series

[@Weedbringer666]

It's even more than that. It's the synthesis of all the wicked nonsense we all used to make up in our minds as children when we watched the show back then. It even includes references to non-asian popular culture as well as underground stuff. What TFS did is just something we all needed so much and never knew until we got to watch it. The ones who state the contrary are just jealous they didn't have this idea in the first place. Because it's so f*cking DOPE !

[@amosamwig8394]

@@Weedbringer666 tfs sucks and is dumbed down to western simple minded humor. a disgrace to dbz, I'm happy they didn't abridged dragonball, that would be an insult.

[@Weedbringer666]

@@amosamwig8394 They perhaps suck from your point of view, but they indeed have shitloads of acting and dubbing talent. I'd also like to point the fact that if a parody is a disgrace or an insult to the original material, then so is a very large part of was is considered as sheer humor.

[@amosamwig8394]

@@Weedbringer666 no it sucks from an eastern point of view, yall westerners are consumers of something which shouldn't be done in the first place. The honor should be kept at japan, because the media from the states doesn't know how to treat a masterpiece. They rather entertain a bunch of 9 year old kids who probably watched dbz after 2008 . All the kids are talking about tfs when it comes to dbz, putting characters traits from tfs on the original characters from dbz as if It's canon. I'm glad they stopped and I only hope their leftover videos will be done away too, prolly not but that's just my personal hope.

[@amosamwig8394]

@ROCKADIUS no, unlike you I respect the db and dbz orgins, you're just a spoiled kid that is getting feed off by content creators that are supposed to *"entertain"* you, using a well made anime only to dumb it down to simple minded teen humor which the kids get their quotes from. Dbz should've never come to the states for the sake of people with disgrace content ruining it for the others that do respect it, I've met them too. you using the word weeb btw says enough, while the funny thing is, people with your mentality in the states wouldn't be talking if anime wasn't aired in your country, so sit down.

[@johnpoppaloppolis9355]

I full on believe Toriyama likes DBZA, he even used their "Piccolo is bad at naming things" joke to name Piccolo's new form.

[@Cetra29]

Toriyama does not understand much English, so no.

[@estebanramirez1178]

Maybe not that, but that one scene in super where Popo scolds Vegeta if he breaks the time chamber again, it zooms directly into just his eyes. If that wasn’t a TFS reference, I don’t know what else.

[@Fridge_Fiend]

Toriyama's always been a fan of western media, he f*cking put a xenomorph as Freeza's third form! I genuinely believe there's a good chance he does watch it.

[@Fridge_Fiend]

@@Cetra29 You know Dragon ball abriged is dubbed in multiple langauges AND subtitles exist? How do you think there's so many anime fans in the west? most of them can't speak Japanese

[@mohamedlamin2968]

@@Fridge_FiendToriyama barely knows the existence of dragon ball multiverse. And that's the most known piece of fan work made about dragon ball ever. How do you expect he would know about dragon ball abridged?

[@TheRealSabakuNoGabo]

The whole English DBZ fandom revived because of TFS. At the start of every effing episode they state that DBZA is a fan-based parody, and encourages us to support the official release. Sean should be thankful for TFS doing what they did with the series and gave us quite honestly a better quality product than the OG.

[@MrSkibblem]

tbf it’s most likely he’s saying it since toei didn’t like DBZA and sean didn’t want to get in trouble..

[@somedude1666]

It's kind of like how when card counting became a thing in casinos. Casinos were absolutely shitting themselves over blackjack losses but they actually got more profit because more people were playing the game again trying to card count (and failing lol). Honestly, I kind of hope toei wins a legal case just so it shoots them in the foot and kills their cash cow. DB was dogshit after the cell saga anyway too. It wouldn't be the end of the world for TFS really, their HFIL series is epic.

[@sfakianos7]

The fandom was never dead. TFS fans can parrot this as much as they want, it won't be true.

[@jenpachi2408]

Nah not true that fan base is loyal as hell I like tfs but you're giving them way too much credit

[@deeznuttes9340]

@@sfakianos7 tfs fans are giga retards tbh

[@eddiekynard7627]

Why is he acting like hes losing money from TFS

[@jankjaws9815]

Eddie Kynard don’t agree with his statements but his contract probably won’t allow him to give an honest answer.

[@minutesFX]

Because more people like tfs more than his version

[@eddiekynard7627]

@@minutesFX no dragon ball has been popular for to long for tfs to have a bigger fan base

[@speedcow9711]

If you go onto some of the episodes of the abridged series they actually have ads on them

[@eddiekynard7627]

@@speedcow9711 as opposed to all the money Funimation has made off the shit

[@justanotherguywithamoustac8893]

"The law requires that I answer no"

[@nohat1375]

Just Another Guy With A Moustache fair enough

[@therealconman1529]

Just Another Guy With A Moustache perfect 👌🏻

[@yugiyami8642]

Translation: what I really want to say is that tfs sucks but I know I'll get a backlash if I say that so let me hide behind the company.

[@rodrigomarcondes5857]

@@yugiyami8642 Couldn't agree more

[@StrivedeLaLear]

Even though, TFS is legally warranted as they make no money off their content. Not that the company man, Sean Schemmel, would ever get that. Same guy who pissed away a friendship with Vic and threw him under the bus so Funimation could save face.

[@cameronUwagner]

I don't understand why Toei doesn't just give TFS the right to use their animation. TFS can create content without the fear of having it removed from platforms, and Toei, I'm sure, can receive a percentage of whatever TFS profits. I don't know. I'm no business man or anything, but I feel like this would make things easier for everybody.

[@xSharpW]

Japan is weird about copyright and parody law, they don't follow the American laws for it for some reason and follow their own laws, but KZbin follows the American laws for it so that's why DBZA wasn't cancelled until the end of the Cell Saga.

[@mania4270]

​@@xSharpWnone of that is true. Team four star used animation from from DBZ. It wasn't parody. Parody is like those live action comedic DBZ vids. Team four star literally is redubbing the series and just because they're doing it with comedy, doesn't classify it as parody.

[@xSharpW]

@@mania4270 "Under U.S. copyright law, parody is protected under fair use, and the typical Abridged Series very clearly falls under the bounds of parody, due to the generally humorous tone and frequent commentary on and critique of aspects of many abridged series." just the quickest of quick google searches...because if it didn't fall under parody TFS wouldn't be able to dispute the copyright claims/might be in jail...

[@mania4270]

@@xSharpW abridged series actually don't fall under power. Nice try troll. It's illegal, which is why none of team four star will ever be a part of something official because they stole clips from a show. Just like with Nintendo, these companies are nice enough to let KZbinrs give them free publicity, but if they wanted to they could pull any vid on KZbin down. If team four star had a case they'd go to court. They don't because they know they'd lose with that bullshit fair use argument..

[@MaxLoafin]

​@@xSharpW Dude, you pulled that from the first search result. That's not _exaaaactly_ doing your due diligence. The argument becomes pretty simple when you factor in dbza consisting almost entirely of Toei's animation. Like, the only thing keeping this case from being easily shut is the fact it's international. I like dbza. I'm also pretty sure it infringes on copyright. I think most people can't take the step back and think about it objectively because most people arguing one way or the other are either big fans or haters. Ask a lawyer if a fandub consisting of 80-90% animation from a company you did not ask for the rights to use is "fair use". I doubt they'll say "yes".

[@PapiBlackarot]

Most of the reason he feels this way is because how he feels about Goku. Sean is very protective of Goku from what I've heard and read. I guess it might also be his job to say he doesn't like TFS.

[@HatsODoom]

Convinced he HAS to say he doesn't condone TFS because of Toei. They really hate them and he's probably just scared of losing his job or something because his statements here don't line up with, say, him saying in Goku's voice what a little shit Gohan is when playing Kakarot.

[@arrogantlobster3270]

“The following is a nonprofit fan based parody”

[@strawberrybankai12]

probably what sean hears is " the following is a [redacted]profit [redacted] [redacted] parody"

[@r.babylon2885]

It may be, but they were making money off it through the youtube infrastructure. That's why they got shut down twice for copyright infringement. It began as nonprofit, but they started making enough money that they turned it into a business.

[@phillipredgrave5745]

@@r.babylon2885 Jackpot. They're now officially their own company that have been tasked with dubbing shows officially themselves. As long as DBZA is on KZbin & it's monetized, it's not a non-profit. I understand where Sean's coming from here

[@batman5035]

Im sure they got ads and sell shirts

[@osamukato2469]

@@phillipredgrave5745 they dont get their profit from dbza lol its not monetized said in every video and on their pages thats why they started doing other stuff because they still wanted to do dbza but u cant just do 1 thing for free hence why dbza isnt the only thing on their channel like fuck off lol

[@brillopower1492]

"Everything you just said has made me violently angry!" -My inner Cell.

[@maccoyhartweg9513]

And vegeta

[@geoffreyokrongly916]

Oh great! Now I’m agreeing with Vegeta/Cell. See what you’ve made me do?

[@MithyG]

Oh great now I'm agreeing with cell -my inner vegeta

[@selfloathingweekly]

Sean literally went "if I speak i am silenced" 💀

[@immortalkillah53]

Funny thing is Chris actually lent his voice for the Bardock special and he didn’t lose his job. I feel like Sean was just hating on TFS because of how big they were getting.

[@jeremiahscott2032]

He said they were talented😂😂 but you’re probably right

[@evarchavex4800]

You sound like someone that's never been in any sort of business. He has obligations to come off as a certain way. You'll understand once you're older.

[@immortalkillah53]

@@evarchavex4800 dumbest shit I’ve heard!

[@t.p.ggaming3884]

@@evarchavex4800 Acting like you're up anywhere influential

[@evarchavex4800]

@@t.p.ggaming3884 It's called being an adult that understands what it means to have a job.

[@piepods]

"I'm very attached to the character...(they're) taking something I love and mocking it" Who thinks Sean's salty because Lani parodys Sabbat but MasakoX parodys Ocean dub Goku?

[@kuronoroux8864]

>mocking it Oof, dude, that's being thin skinned. Whatever should bigger people in media and art feel when they're parodied?

[@demisaurus2165]

Whoever does Sean's Goku voice on the DragonDub vids is spot on

[@hunterblacc4336]

It’s funny because Masako is closer to what the character should be than Sean.

[@slackerdesu5327]

I know this was 7 months ago, but I like how he says that and then we get voice leaks from him saying some pretty questionable things IN CHARACTER AS GOKU.

[@redshirt49]

@@slackerdesu5327 Meh, turns out VA's fuck around like regular people. Not exactly a shocking reveal.

[@phatboy4321]

Sean: "Someone is taking something I love and care about and mocking it." Also Sean: *Says homophobic slurs as Goku*

[@seanhughes8062]

Tbh the things he said were behind closed doors directed at nobody and clearly just having fun since they have to record all day. TFS might be funny but they lied about buu saga being made and still took money from patreon for a year without announcing to there fans they are funding a dead project. And they say Non-Profit.

[@Mopsspoof]

Sgt. Baker oh shit

[@yaboibeanz6036]

Lmao people are so soft nowadays

[@phatboy4321]

@@yaboibeanz6036 how does pointing out Sean's hypocrisy make me soft?

@@seanhughes8062 facts

[@the_quadracorn]

It must get asked all the time. When somebody asked him about it at a convention I was at he was like "eeh, I don't travel around to talk about their show" and shrugged it off. I can respect his position. He's got a job to do

[@its_Criminal1]

Why are people surprised he changed his mind. He litterly represents the dubbing cast of english dragon ball as gokus voice actor. He can't control what the conpany wants. He has to go with their requests so that he doesn't lose his job

[@will6330]

TFS DBZA is a lot funnier. Every episode they state support the official release, and nobody in their right mind would think TFS made DBZ

[@TheHuskyK9]

I mean, Dragon Ball is not a comedy so I'd hope the abridged version would be funnier

[@rubberwoody]

@@TheHuskyK9 well dragon Ball was kind of a comedy

[@juliuspavilovskis4862]

@@rubberwoody until it went full *save galaxy, real stakes* in Z.

[@StrivedeLaLear]

@@rubberwoody Shonen are definitely a mix of action/drama and ham-fisted, slapstick comedy aimed at young men. Something boys can relate to.

[@every_username_is_taken]

The problem is that TFS completely supplants the original. It's funnier, self-aware, has a faster pace, and the plot itself is more streamlined. The "please support the original release" card at the beginning is completely dishonest. Why would I watch 10 episodes of the original each 25 minutes long, when I can watch 1 abridged episode and have a way better time?

[@johnnyphesto1247]

“Funimation doesn’t support them” he says while Funimation brings them in for minor roles.

[@trollmastergoku1445]

Johnny Phesto that doesn’t mean they supports them,in any form.

[@Mythical444]

troll MasterGoku they surely gave them jobs......that’s a form of support....

[@edsbegaming507]

troll MasterGoku so giving them jobs isn’t support?

[@deadgirllife2]

Well I think Funimation doesn't surrporting what they're doing

[@rxquiem4441]

Not all of them for minor roles the voice of Deku (english dub) was formerly on TFS voicing cloud.

[@drinkindaze6124]

This man says TFS mocks Goku but actively voices Goku in Super

[@Hateandhatred]

lmao

[@beezweeziebeezweezie7418]

I get that as the guy who voices the main character he has to toe the company line. He probably was told don’t show support and say this or we’ll find another Goku.

[@mookiestewart3776]

Then he’s a coward and they cannot “find another goku” for English he IS goku for the English world. People would riot

[@beezweeziebeezweezie7418]

@@mookiestewart3776 I mean actors and voice actors get replaced all the time. Besides if those are his actual opinions, he’s entitled to have them.

[@shadowpersonoftheunknown6245]

Sean as Goku: Everyone deserves peace and Freedom! Sabat as Vegeta: I am the Prince of all Saiyans! Sean as Sean: I am the Prince of all Funimation! Sabat as Sabat: Everyone deserves peace and Freedom!

[@StrivedeLaLear]

This could not be any closer to the truth. Sean is like, a Piccolo irl and Chris is Goku irl.

[@PyroDay991]

I'd say Chris is more like All Might Just meeting him leaves you feeling hope and restoring your faith!

[@shadowpersonoftheunknown6245]

Sean loves playing Goku, is very good at it, so I think he's doing his best to please his employer. He's basically between a rock and a hard place. It's unfortunate that Funimation isn't fun.

[@retrozaid1600]

ShadowPersonOfTheUnknown well to be more accurate to the joke “The Prince Of Toei”

[@shadowpersonoftheunknown6245]

@@retrozaid1600 Touchè

[@Khan-_-Art1st]

*Asks Chris Sabat* Chris: They're pretty cool I guess. Next question

[@bajkotamas1610]

Nah man he'd say "I fucking love these guys haha*

[@TyloThorn]

If Toei doesn't like TFS tho, why'd they make a massive easteregg with Popos face zooming in to only his eyes like in TFS and he threatens to ban Vegeta if he broke the hyperbolic time chamber again. And this isn't the only reference.

[@ShyRanger]

Assuming it isn't a reference and not a coincidence (TF say this too cause not sure for certain), there's a difference between Toei's higher up executives who care about business and brand management and the animators and writers who just write up things they think fans will like and don't talk to said higher ups all the time about everything.

[@thesidneychan]

He really should have said "I can't say much about it. I think they're really talented and funny, but I also need to respect the studio's decisions. I don't know enough about copyright or IP to give a meaningful opinion. So it's pretty complicated, hope you understand."

[@MisterFister612]

Sean Schemmel : Cant Like them due to my Contract with Toei Christopher Sabat: I Love These Guys. Fun Fact at Sakura Con Chris Sabat Even Said his Favorite Voice is MR.PoPo because of TFS.

[@Ultizer]

Sabat is in a higher position at Funimation, plus Toei did stop him from hiring TFS for that one DBZ Kai scene, so Sabat probably has changed his mind about TFS.

[@MisterFister612]

@@Ultizer Didnt stop him from making a Cameo in the 3rd Ultimate Hellsing Abridge Video as Van Hellsing

[@Nagatem]

Brodo, that’s why he got them in xenoverse 1 and 2 as cac voices

[@jac0736]

Kyle Hebert: actively voices Santa Clause and the narrator for TFS

[@denickart]

Toei doesn't care about Vegeta

[@MoeruShihoin]

He.. does know that Akira Toriyama actually likes them tho right?

[@Lowlightt]

@FlashGitz #1 Fan Nope, Sean just doesn't like other people voiceing Goku.

[@STEPHxCA]

FlashGitz #1 Fan like Peter Kellamis, the original voice

[@tzetzat]

@moerushihoin can u link source for that?

[@scottpalmer3108]

Source

[@delinseurn]

@FlashGitz #1 Fan Sean is a SoyBoy fuck funimation

[@millythecat7316]

he tried to be chill.. but in the end he was like "I want them to pay!" lol

[@bassicallyandre]

Definitely didn't expect this reaction. I'm actually kinda disappointed, but I understand where's he's coming from, being the face of the company and all.

[@itsrectimemedia]

DB Community let's all pay our respects to Brice Armstrong, the Dragon Ball Narrator, the VA for Captain Ginyu, and Lord Slug, today it was announced he passed away back in January 10th. I'm happy to know that Toriyama based the Ginyu Force off of Super Sentai (the Japanese source of Power Rangers) "The purpose of striking a pose is not to become like wallpaper--that's why we chant loudly when we pose: to draw attention to our magnificence. I know....I'll just have to raise the stakes a little bit. The best poser gets a candy!" Rest In Peace Sir.

[@psnfailout000]

Dang. That sucks. Least we still got Gohan The Narrator. RIP though.

[@thelaughingrouge]

Rip.

[@yinbrown6212]

2020 off to a shit start

[@Archive_7802]

Rest In Peace, good sir. You stood strong.

[@wegoku7274]

@@Archive_7802 I loved his voice in budokai 3.

[@RandomBlackGamer]

Ayyyye sounds like he doesn't agree with MastarMedia either

[@UnownDepth]

Oh hi

[@armaghanzubair1762]

but mastermedia does not steal content it animates on its own

[@zandatsudragon8860]

Armaghan Zubair bullshit,he doesn't animate anything

[@armaghanzubair1762]

@@zandatsudragon8860 no he and his team animated anime war goku vs saitama and bunch of other videos

[@shadowhunter-mi5su]

Armaghan Zubair you mean trace over others' animation and claimed it as his own until when the rise about that claim started surging so he change his videos desc. into accepting that he was completely open about it.

[@prismaticc_abyss]

Actually it is very much legal, thats the whole reason its up on the platform

[@Nrrbiii]

Sean’s just trying to keep it professional and I can respect that

[@budanical2494]

When Xenoverse came out wasn't one of the voices to be chosen with your character Nappa from DBZA?? It can't be that illegal..

[@jackimusprime]

Is that true? That's hilarious.

[@Chiyoriprince4]

@@jackimusprime I just imagined it rn, "hey vegeta look, a pokemon" then thought of the voice playback

[@smilerat8070]

Voice 8, literally the "What?" Line is "Vegeta?"

[@sethchritton9926]

Yes. And this is what I love. Toei and Chris seem to genuinely like (or recognize how they are helpful to the brand) TFS, but TFS, Chris, and everyone kinda just let's Sean do his diva thing because it doesn't hurt anyone and keeps the big baby happy.

[@snowstorm6757]

It isn’t illegal even that’s like Boi!

[@smorgastarta4205]

Didn't Funimation start out the same way? Hiring actors from local plays to voice characters that Ocean Dub was doing?

[@smorgastarta4205]

Designated Shitposter Basically he opposes a group of people on KZbin who started out the same as he did... That's so hypocritical!! Thanks for backing me up.

[@duhmzdaih]

@@smorgastarta4205 Dude, the key here is two words: Toei Animation.

[@dark3rthanshadows]

@@Direstar_ but that's the thing the parody isn't just about the animation . it's the job they make over...ffs even in japan they use samples of american musics,short parts of views etc etc but ok i don't mind he backing the company after all it's his job . it's the "Abuse the character, mock the character" ,"use american stupid law to make money over someone's else work" yeah that i took offense

[@KeeperPlus]

Yes

[@kanesmith8271]

@@duhmzdaih Fuck toei

[@ourygrip2168]

So Sean finds himself caught in a web of corporate intrigue. This billion-dollar corporation, uses him as their mouthpiece in a nefarious plot. He's entangled in the machinations of his corporate overlords, and paid handsomely to suggest that a daring and hilarious parody of a beloved project is committing a heinous crime. This act of betrayal only serves to fuel the flames of creativity and fan enthusiasm. Long live TFS. (Making toast!)

[@bauer0788]

A simple “hey man I would prefer not to talk about them.” Would have sufficed.

[@kpag3030]

Nick Bauer Right.

[@slidelikeMbison]

Nah he chose not to dodge the question, he acknowledged that they are talented and funny but he can’t support it for all the reasons he listed. That was probably the best way to answer, when you dodge questions people make up all sorts of assumptions on how you feel.

[@heroofthe4-starmastersword526]

@@slidelikeMbison fair point

[@yeyeye802]

@@slidelikeMbison But a lot of his reasons were pretty bad or just blatantly not true.

[@slidelikeMbison]

Yeyeye what did he say that wasn’t true?He only really had one reason. He said he’d be fine with it if he wasn’t the voice of Goku.

[@youngchristianrecord]

Sean: "It's not fair use, they should stop" TFS: "You're not involved in this anymore." Sean: "I'm feeling pretty involved."

[@crayzay925]

Toei: Boy, don't make me come up there and be a parent! TFS: FIRST TIME FOR EVERYTHING! Toei: OH HO HO!

[@Whole_Note]

It should be noted that multiple members of TFS have done official voice work for the franchise now.

[@CaptainSunnyD]

i can get that. idk if i’d agree completely but abridged is awesome and helped me through some dark times when i was down. so did the original dbz animation as well it’s just tfs content takes wild turns that i love. i don’t wanna say i’d rather have the abridged version forreal(even tho i wouldn’t mind) i wish these actors had the opportunity to do what tfs does to an extent. couldn’t imagine sean schemmel telling frieza he looks weird. or vegeta calling 18 a washing machine.

[@Gisso94]

"it's not legally fair use in my opinion" The law is not opinion. And most certainly is not yours.

[@cgi2002]

That's the thing. Fair use is entirely opinion of the court at the time, as it has no clear legal definition. It's also a US copyright term only, consider that this case can be brought in any country in the world were youtube is available, and nearly all those countries lack a fair use claus. Then they could just fight the claim on the artwork, the characters, the trademarks, all of which they would win hands down as they have no been altered significantly enough. Then there is the obvious case that this never really went to court, as youtube would just pull it to cover their own ass nevermind fair use or not, they aren't ever going to risk making themselves liable for someone else's sake. That said, I love tfs.

[@dmrc43]

They wrote the laws to include the interpreters opinion.

[@arabhero10]

ASAP.69 “legal” and “not illegal” are not the same thing. It’s not binary.

[@kevinstephenson3531]

Genís Sastre Borras well they aren’t using entirely legally with fair use. Fair use covers the use of a portion of the material to criticize, educate or parody something. Now you might say well they are parodying dragon ball z and I agree with however the definition of a parody could either deny it completely or validate it. It requires criticizing the series which it does, but not in review type of critique. I love DBZA but I understand why they had to cancel it( yes I know the burnout is a big factor too).

[@connman8d617]

@@kevinstephenson3531 DBZA is a parody and it does use excerpts from the show and not full segments. It is covered by all aspects of fair use protection. Quite frankly, it always pisses me off when companies like Toei do this shit. DBZA helps DBZ persist, it doesn't detract from it.

[@stoneyboijosh9469]

I personally like him voicing Goku .. but that’s about it.. he’s kinda annoying 👀

[@chief_tenkaichi]

Stoneyboi Josh his not annoying but his statement did make me slightly hate him for dissing tfs 😂

[@GameStrikerX2]

@@chief_tenkaichi He's not dissing TFS, he's respecting his company's wishes, he's not wrong about the whole "a company tells you to stop doing something so you shouldn't do it" I completely agree with that, however I think the wording could've been better as funimation can get around TFS, it's Toei that's a bit iffy about it

[@DoctorApotheosis]

@@GameStrikerX2 The mentality that you should stop doing something just because a company tells you to is something that irks me. No one likes being made fun of. Comedy would in the grave.

[@GameStrikerX2]

@@DoctorApotheosis It's similar to modding when a company doesn't want you modding. If people get banned for modding a game that doesn't support it, even if it's offline, they wanna cry about it and say "they don't have malicious intent" or "it's not hurting the game" yeah well who cares, you broke the rules, you're getting what you deserve. It wouldn't be such an issue if people were more mindful of the company's best interests

[@GameStrikerX2]

People always wanna mention the non profit fan based parody thing, but if toei doesn't want them doing it, they probably shouldn't do it unless they have permission, regardless of whether they're under copyright protection or not, it's disrespectful to the company

[@itzbebop]

Meanwhile Chris Sabat absolutely loves hanging with the TFS crew

[@itsrectimemedia]

Sonny Strigt (Krilin) told me that he’s invited them over to his house.

[@yareyarejose5080]

they all do. there's even a video with sean and masakox, lol

[@salsathemonkey22]

Why are people acting like he spitting acid when he gives the most benign diplomatic PR response possible. If you got called into the boss' office and asked about inappropriate jokes your coworkers were making, are you *really* gonna tell him "nah man i thought that shit was hilarious"

[@mookiestewart3776]

“I don’t think it’s fair use” that’s why you clown. He’s categorically wrong and shilling here

[@AnimeChaos10]

Funi: we love team 4 star! Toei: no you don't.. Funi: no we don't. Got it.

[@paytonbarker2437]

Lmao thats so fukin stupid

[@Kazuya012]

That's basically how it goes tho.

[@prettycureforever7102]

Remember when popo told vegeta not to enter the chamber an destroy it how popos face popped up they took a slip from tfs and i wonder did funi keep that scene

[@KombatW0mbat]

Ironic because this is basically how it goes

[@rubicanter1137]

Funny thing is akria did support TFS. He even used their frezia theme song in the resurrection F movie

[@TigerTzu]

He's just mad that he's now only the second most well known voice of Goku.

[@LuisFelipe-xg8iq]

The Grud Actually the third, Mario Castañeda, the latin american voice of Goku, is known in all of latin america as the original voice, second to Masako

[@garygallagher6]

Luis Felipe true that, and there’s more fan in latin America than in whole USA

[@oof3479]

I only know of Sean

[@chuganoga1908]

Except you make no sense

[@bandabanana4939]

@@LuisFelipe-xg8iq 1st Masako Nosawa 2nd guy u just mentioned 3rd Ocean Dum 4th Lawrence Simpson idk his name sorry. And that's just it :D

[@CaptainGreenCoin]

He is definitely getting paid to say this he sounds like he's panicked whenever he strays off in thought

[@jarvisholytaylor]

There is only one Goku and that Goku is Sean! Big respect to him for not catering to a shitty platform like TFS.🔥👊

[@ShyRanger]

Wow you hate TF so much you won't even acknowledge Goku's ORIGINAL voice actress?

[@clydecash5659]

Sean: “it’s not fair use in my opinion.” Also Sean: “I’m not a lawyer.”

[@Osman-bn2rc]

No offense or anything did he also not say " but I study the shit out of it"

[@clydecash5659]

Yes because I can picture a visual montage of Sean staying up late reading case law and doing intense research late into the night, followed by him collaborating with a team of attorneys. “I study the shit out of it” is something that is said by a person in a last minute attempt to recover credibility. I’m not buying it. He probably just goes home, eats some Burger King and plays retail wow.

[@prettycureforever7102]

@@clydecash5659 but he and funimation cant do shit against tfs they always say before the show ends that it belongs to akira amd fuji and funimation and toei so how is tfs gonna get in trouble plus they're nkt making money of the show and people can donate if they want

[@sprtanboy8069]

@@prettycureforever7102 they do it at the start and the end to remind you

[@hermansnazzledorf2950]

@@clydecash5659 it seems more likely that he said "but i'd* study the shit out of it". Basically implying that if he was going to make something like DBZA himself he would want to be really really careful with fair use and not just jump straight into it. I think it's also worth mentioning that the reason he's uncertain about the fair use is because the laws don't apply quite the same way with fair use in Japan (Where the product actually originates from).

[@VashsAngelArm]

And yet no ones remembers when TFS did a voice over for one of the DBZ games

[@kalisto_x1]

which one?

[@VashsAngelArm]

@@kalisto_x1 xenoverse #1 takahata101 is voice 8. You can watch it on there channel when they are creating their character for the game.

[@kalisto_x1]

@@VashsAngelArm ah ok thanks

[@VashsAngelArm]

@@kalisto_x1 yeah no problem

[@sandman7170]

They did two. In the second Xenoverse game, you can hear a saiyan NPC say "Vegeta" in the voice of TFS Nappa. They literally asked these guys to break away from the parody and do recordings for these games.

[@zaxbitterzen2178]

As someone who knows fully well how easily a corporate office can excommunicate even a superstar for breaking policy Sean is being incredibly smart here. Not sure if Chris Sabat somehow gets special treatment with his favoritism/involvement towards TFS given that Toei has issued multiple warning's over the years.

[@ShyRanger]

I wouldn't be shocked if Sean is on a tighter leash than Chris because, being Goku, he's seen as a bigger PR speaker.

[@zaxbitterzen2178]

@@ShyRanger True

[@mookiestewart3776]

@@zaxbitterzen2178or Chris just ACTUALLY has some balls and integrity. Toei isn’t stupid enough to change the English voices of fucking goku and vegeta at this stage . He’s a coward

[@Telor21]

You guys gotta remember Schemmel is high up at Funi and cant afford to piss off Toei like a lot of the other cast can

[@camz_205]

But it’s not like tfs are using the actual voice actors to make the abridged series, if they were then I’d see where Sean is coming from. But he isn’t. It feels like an ego thing. Christopher sabat don’t have a problem with it, in fact he finds it entertaining. Sean needs to realise he’s only known just because he’s playing goku, if he was voicing anyone else no one would care as much about him

[@wesleythoman9873]

My only issue is this. Why would Toei and Funimation have an issue with them when the cast of Dragonball Z abridged has been brought on to countless official projects including ressurection F, Dragonball Z kai, Dragonball Xenoverse etc... to do english voice work? Something doesn't add up as their opinions seem to change with time.

[@badrequest5596]

My thoughts exactly. If they were this upset they wouldnt hire them

[@Chibi_Rikka]

I said this in another comment, but they obviously didn't bring in *TeamFourStar* for those, they just brought in three VA's who happen to be the founding members. Hiring and supporting a VA doesn't mean you endorse all of their other works. And it's not like they've ONLY hired them for DBZ stuff either, they've been cast in plenty of other anime too, cause they're VA's, they can audition and get a part same as any other VA.

[@HYPERLEONE]

Funimation likes them Toei doesnt. Fun just does the translation. Toei owns the orignal anime they are the ones that can sue and continue to do so. Even though itll never go through as tfs never breaks any laws.

[@Jayngfet]

TFS has a decent working relationship with Bandai and Funimation. Toei are the ones who have the least say over localization but are the most legally hostile.

[@aienma6660]

Not to mention thats how a few of the other recent anime's got voice actors. Ms. Joke is voice by TFS's #18

[@andrewrowland1989]

“What they do is not legal” I’m YES it is. It’s a Parody series. It’s part of fair use. TFS doesn’t profit from the Abridged Series itself.

[@Theredmeep852]

He did say "in my opinion" as well as "im not a lawyer" lol Sean's well aware of it, he's only expressing his opinion on the matter

[@Konflick25769]

Too bad his opinion means jack shit. Same ol typical Sean. He gets insanely protective and jealous over his role as goku

[@Theredmeep852]

@@Konflick25769 just like how most voice actors are very protective of what they do.. its their job, and an opinion is like an asshole everyone's got em. Your opinion is that Sean's being too over protective, the companies opinion is that they don't want tfs making videos because they see it as their property, and Tfs opinion is that they respect Sean and the creators of dbz and dont want a dispute. They just want to create content that people like us enjoy. Sean being somewhat protective of his role only proves the fact that he cares about it and loves playing the character.. and obviously he's going to be on the companies side with it lol it would not look good on him if he wasn't. But overall he handled the question very well.. he gave his opinion, told the guy that he isn't mad at him, and moved on. He's allowed to not like tfs lol 😆

[@Nutstache]

@@Theredmeep852 isn't Christopher Sabat (voice actor of vegeta) openly a massive fan of them tho? Why would Sean be worried about upsetting Funi when Sabat is making it clear that he loves TFS and doesn't get into trouble for it?

[@Theredmeep852]

@@Nutstache 🤷🏻‍♂️ fuck if I know lol it was just a theory.. I wasn't aware that Sabat liked tfs

[@brambleblaster]

“It’s not legally fair use *in my opinion*” ... WHAT?! LMFAO

[@BatMan-cq8gq]

The source material is 30 years old, corporate goons never seem to understand how well made fan fiction can reinvigorate the consumption of an old product.

[@boredape1986]

Source material is 30 years old but they still make profit of of it, it's not like they abandoned it.

[@Hausbrauen]

@@boredape1986 ...ok? That wasn't their point at all, and nobody claimed (nor implied) it was abandoned.

[@pissedoffturtle7333]

I'm confused, he doesn't like mockeries of dragonball but still agreed to do Super?

[@Durahan13]

Not gonna lie. Your comment was like a breath of fresh air here. Thank you for it. It's not much, but you've certainly earned my Like. You certainly were My Lord And Savior here.

[@EndOfScrutiny]

Fair point.

[@razorj8964]

Your Lord And Saviour OMG THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT FACT OUT. GOD

[@nolimitlex6621]

Underated Comment LMAO😭

[@luhloieed6466]

Dem shits dude holy crap

[@Elzzaw]

Full runtime of DBZ: 116 hours Full runtime of DBZA: 17 hours DBZA is fully voiced, edited and produced by Team Four Star and only uses a fraction of the original animation. It is transformative. Toei are just pricks and Sean is hanging from their dragonballs.

[@alonelypotato2788]

he can't accept that masacox do a better goku voice than him

[@lonewolf9578]

@@alonelypotato2788 Sean is a good VA for Goku, he’s just a massive and petty prick over the role

[@maverick9357]

@@lonewolf9578 especially when anyone other than him does the voice for Goku. And I think it's because that's literally what he's known for. And without that then he's nothing lmao

[@lonewolf9578]

@@maverick9357 yeah, I don’t know any other roles he’s done aside from Goku lol Then there was that whole thing with the Goku Black arc

[@gir1456]

@@lonewolf9578 He actually voices King Kai also. That's all I know. Just Goku and King Kai.

[@spdutahraptor777]

i wonder what's his opinion on movies like Hot Shots... or Scary Movie

[@StephenMoreira]

Team Four Star just filled a void dbz left behind, and the entire product is a million times better because of it.

[@a100921]

“Non-Profit fan based parody” its actually completely legal, which is why they’ve won their previous disputes with Funimation... This is why Vegeta is my favourite 👍🏻

[@DraculaCronqvist]

Except that's a lie, since they are clearly making a profit from the merchandise they sell from their parody. It's a very rundabout way, but they are making a profit with it, so what they claim is a bold-faced lie.

[@fangzntalonz]

It was stopped being advertised as “non-profit” a long time ago.

[@reloadpsi]

The words "non-profit" were removed from the disclaimer ages ago. They are however getting a bit far away from the "parody" part too. A parody is supposed to say something about the source material in order to be legal, and DBZA began doing that less and less.

[@joshsdkytre7497]

@Kidd wowowowowowow... Looks like we got a baddass over here.

[@huskiterian9771]

@@DraculaCronqvist Sure, they make profit off of their merchandise, what of it? Unless Vegeta in the official show shouts "I AM THE HYPE!" then as far as I'm concerned that is a quote they have every right to sell in the context that they do.

[@7079goku]

How many years did we have no dbz for I really believe the games parodies and general discussion on KZbin helped keep dbz relevant

[@pablotokes4965]

YES.

[@7079goku]

David Stephens yh I agree to some extent but the sheer amount of sales the games get and views dbz related content gets shows how the fans still want it they may not have brought it back with super if not for those things

[@7079goku]

David Stephens gt and the live movie were both ass you can’t use that in your point 😂😂

[@haustyl12]

Except no. DBZ has always been relevant and Japan doesn’t give a shit what Americans think. Dragon Ball came back because Akita Toriyama wanted it to come back

[@Skievy]

yes in people's childhoods (adults) but it's a new generation and DBZA helped keep it in the eye of this new generation, the games all came later, look at the yr DBZA vs all the other content (super/games)........the kids today had DBZA as prob their 1st taste of dragon ball and then when they saw a game or super went "oh the DBZA stuff i should check out all this other stuff too"

[@Bayareaglobz]

I feel like this guy couldn’t have a more of a disconnect between him and the fans in less than 30 seconds and he just did

[@sionwithblaze]

Sean has the complete diffrent opinion compared to what Dan green has to ygotas. Personally I would be flatted if someone would make an parody of the show I voiced as the main character. But I still understand what Sean meant by his opinion .

[@YubelMalevolent]

Are we surprised that a man so insecure about his role that he actively forced a convention to have Peter Kelamis taken off their guest line up because "I'M the voice of Goku" doesn't like another dub? Next up on "no shit sherlock", the sky is blue, it's raining in Scotland and water is wet.

[@DDRKhat]

"Wet" is a description of our experience with moving water when we come into contact with it; as such we "get wet". So at a simple level; Water is not "wet". Just a liquid.

[@BlaZe-pl4ym]

DDRKhat Gottem.

[@PikaLink91]

@DDRKhat Insert Roxas “shut up” quote here.

[@lordkars3971]

@@DDRKhat Didn't fucking ask, kiddo.

[@fryingpan9503]

@@lordkars3971 And they weren't responding to you either.

[@ashleytuchin7693]

I saw Sean and Chrs Sabbat at a convention in Sydney once and somebody asked Chris at his panel whether he liked DBZ Abridged and he said that he does. However, he warned us to spread the word around not to ask Sean that question, because he feels quite strongly about it. Now I can see what he meant.

[@TheDelethar]

Sean is entitled to his own opinion on the matter, fuck off if you don’t agree with it at least he has the spine to stick to his principals. Even if he is wrong

[@Saternalia]

@@TheDelethar Thank you. Sean has an opinion. Just because it's not yours doesn't make him a bad person. He said it's funny but at the end of the day teamfourstar BARELY gets away with what they're doing. I love dbza and the actors but they perpetually skate on thin ice and every fan knows that

[@MrCyion]

Honestly, he sounds like it’s in his contract to be outspoken against TFS. He sounds like he’s the official mascot of Toei Animation and thereby DBZ. Everything he says is based around him currently working as Goku. Although his last line is simply bullshit as he makes it sound like he wants the corporations to win vs the legality of fair use.

[@ericstaples7220]

So, he asks you not to spread that around and what do you do?

[@BoostedBonobo101]

@@Saternalia with the fact that they make it clear to everyone that they are NON PROFIT and it's a PARODY they are on pretty thick ice tbh. They aren't pushing anything they're just good at what they do and simple minded people can't wrap their heads around what's official or isn't. They clearly state who the official teams behind dbz are in EACH EPISODE of their abridged series. This video shows that even with proof ignorant people will willingly stay ignorant even when they know that they are in the wrong...

[@cxltysbelrose]

Didn’t know there was all this stuff happening between tfs but I do like hearing some of tfs voices in the xenoverse 2 game

[@GooseFrischmann]

This makes me want to watch TFS right now and I’ve been binge rewatching the dbz series haha

[@beardedcain6789]

"I'm too attached to Goku the character" which is, of course, why he used Goku's voice to pretend to call Gohan a fa**ot

[@Braithekaikiller]

Ooh shit i forgot about that, that makes it funnier

[@eternalinnocent9506]

Could've been goten too

[@alistairwalker2850]

You mean a Freaky Alien Genotype?

[@moa4185]

Callum Ryker “THAT THING’S A GUY?” - Krillin

[@Ratspressoh]

@@eternalinnocent9506 We all know it was Gohan.

[@halonator22]

If anything, TFS makes people rewatch the old original dragonball stuff, or it even attracts new people to the dragonball franchise in general via KZbin... So in my opinion it is a good thing

[@seekay237]

Also: DBZA wouldn't even work in the first place if you haven't watched the original. So many jokes would just fall flat

[@RodrigoMartinez-ib9fq]

I mean.......

[@TheSteve5154]

The sole reason I decided to get a funimation subscription and rewatch DBZ, as well as pick up DB and DBS was because TFS got me back into the series. I love his work, but fuck Sean Schemmel.

[@the_death_court6461]

Ngl, I became a Dragon Ball fan because of DBZA.

[@AaronPriceColby]

1000% this!

[@joewarrior619]

He knew how successful the abridged series was getting to the point where abridged was better than the original which he voiced for. I’m not saying abridged is better but it is so damn iconic that sometimes I forget I’m watching regular dbz and I’m just waiting for the TFS jokes to come out.

[@LargoAnimations]

“I take the character very seriously” Throwback to the leaks

[@matthewcurrymma6354]

It’s actually very legal. As a parody, it falls under fair use guidelines. Not to mention they start every episode by giving credit and telling people to support the official release

[@itsrectimemedia]

It’s still a sticky situation copyright wise, very grey area.

[@merodi5768]

There was many copyright claims in dbza not just from toei and funimation they got copyright strikes from various songs in the episodes

[@bruh-zw9hx]

@@itsrectimemedia it’s not a sticky area, it’s parody.

[@skavengerslayer]

Well yes and no. Yes in the U.S but no in Japan. Since Jp does not have any fair use law, which prohibits anything of use of animation and what not.

[@nicolasramirez3944]

it's not really a parody since it's literally using the animated visuals (property) from the show

[@MADLADCOMICS]

"The following is a non profit fan base parody." "Please support the official release." -parodying is legal. -no one thinks that they made the animation. -sometimes they actually fix animation errors, plot holes and so on. -they're all die hard fan boys. -the money mainly comes from patreon which is literally just other fan boys paying them to make more. - and every single episode, movie or special tells the viewer to go out and watch the original show. Only a guy like him can find any problem with TFS.

[@fairyzquad6343]

The only reason I watch super because I found dbza

[@weridify]

@@fairyzquad6343 honestly probably the same for me and only watched dbs because i am attached to dbza

[@themanysirs1814]

Fun fact, he does like TFS, but he's not allowed to say so, example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6bdaWCEfK-Dis0

[@weridify]

@@themanysirs1814 fuck toei animation or funimation let the man have his own opinion

[@Ruby150]

@@weridify Contracts are a bitch... though, too be fair, I can see where Sean's coming from. I heard that Mark Hamill would record lines as the Joker, for amusement parks, for very little money... because he was very protective of his role, and didn't want someone to do what he saw as a bad job. Granted, that's hearsay, because I haven't heard it from the horse's mouth, but I can understand someone being protective of a role they've been doing for over a decade, now.

[@hotandcrispy2022]

"in my opinion........i'm not a lawyer" there it is

[@SolarSonic223]

i remember him saying he would like to do voicelines for tfs but could for obvious reasons. and that was before this video surfaced. does anyone have that interview?

[@TotallyNotALolicon]

He needs a muffin button

[@A_S996]

SC Garrett 😂😂😂

[@armandoe6972]

....then shortly after Where did I get all these muffins:)

[@thedrno4901]

I watched that episode last night great comment

[@kaylavelez5384]

Or a sensu bean

[@flochforster6892]

“I take the character very seriously” Goku is the biggest idiot he’s ever been in Super.

[@RongDMemer]

So he was seriously being an idiot?

[@johnkittoiv2572]

To be fair, Sean doesn't write Goku's character

[@lightningandodinify]

Yes, and he’s expressed complaints against the writing of this character in the past as well. He loves his character and has strong views on what direction he should develop.

[@GrubKiller436]

If he loved the character that much, he would take note. Goku is the most carefree and happy go lucky character who kisses nobody's ass and is always breaking rules. This includes Goku in Super. Sean Schemmel is nothing like Goku.

[@ZeldaboyOG]

@@lightningandodinify then why did he do this as Goku? kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIbNeaefe5yhnLs

[@swaggityswag8156]

I wonder if someone next to him grabbed his arm or gave him a push or something when he asked Sean that question, because it sounds like he immediately regretted it. Lol

[@WokeIsntAwake]

He says that then has voice over leaks of him saying some nasty things in Goku's voice.

[@Hausbrauen]

Yep... thought the exact same thing as I watched Sean say all this. Honestly Sean disrespected Goku far greater than TFS ever has, considering TFS hardly considers themselves "the face of Goku" like Sean proudly claims he does.

[@Jaycutler709]

The crazy thing is Toei literally poaches TFS ideas. There is nothing at all wrong with what TFS does

[@charlest.4723]

Exactly like I'm not 100% sure about this so please correct me if I'm wrong but I think they stole the 17 wanting a boat and being a park ranger idea from them, but I might be wrong so please correct me if I am.

[@Jaycutler709]

@@charlest.4723 well the park ranger happened at the end of Z. The boat, no clue about. But I meant more things like Goku being an absolute idiot who only cares about fighting, stuff with Popo, making a intentional fool of Yamcha, etc

[@charlest.4723]

@@TheTsunaru Oh dope thank you so so much!

[@KiddFenix]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha what ideas?!?!?!?!?!

[@Gamebreaker08]

And TFS literally poached the whole damn show from Toei.