MEGA Album Follow-up Letdowns

[@TheMafrand]

Pete talking positively about Motley Crue? No wonder it snows so much in his area #hellfreezesover

[@keithmarus8554]

Hahaha

[@rebelscottish]

Never is too late...!!!it's only r'n'r and i love it...!!!

[@MrVenom5150]

🤣

[@luiscontreras4718]

😄

[@LuchaLibertaria]

- I remember him saying he was on the Crue train until he heard Home Sweet Home 😀

[@newavatar2947]

I really enjoy these shows with Pete and Martin. Very entertaining and informative.

[@dan1216]

Another thing that may have led to AC/DC overload for the fans is that the dummies at Atlantic decided to release Dirty Deeds in the US in 1981, after passing on it five years prior. The band was angry about it because they had just introduced their new singer to the world, only to have an older album with Bon released after.

[@JamesThomas-dz4vj]

I absolutely love "For Those About to Rock" and think it's chock full of great tracks. The title track is a monster, and songs like "Evil Walks", "Snowballed", "Inject the Venom" and "Breaking the Rules" rock hard all the way through. It was definitely a stark decrease in terms of commercial performance, but any album would be compared to "Back in Black", which is one of the highest selling albums of all time, regardless of genre.

[@derekroberts6654]

36:45 about the Doobie Brothers they ceased to be the Doobie Brothers when Tom Johnson left… the Doobie Brothers didn’t return until 1989 with thier album “The Doctor”

[@blairwos1382]

Diver Down, Still Classic. But after Fair Warning, a let down.

[@i3ar310]

Diver Down has some killer tunes but there is just way too much junk. If they didn’t release that album they would have had a perfect run with Roth. What a shame.

[@rightchordleadership]

The covers kill that album. The original songs are great. Curious given the band’s history of doing awesome covers. They just didn’t click here.

[@i3ar310]

@@rightchordleadership Fair Warning seemed like Eddie’s record whereas Diver Down was Roth’s.

[@rightchordleadership]

@@i3ar310 I agree

[@rumblehat4357]

Van Halen's cover of Where Have All The Good Times Gone! Is so good though. I think it's better than the Kinks version (and I love the Kinks.) it's so good that it made the Kinks alter how they played it live themselves. I think it's just as good as You Really Got Me.

[@anthonyrivers1619]

How bout bands that did a damn good job after a massive album? 1. Metal Church - The Dark 2. AC/DC - For Those About to Rock 3. Iron Maiden - Somewhere in Time 4. Slayer - South of Heaven 5. Accept - Metal Heart

[@bronzeagekid8223]

Nirvana's "In Utero" saw the band actively trying to destroy their own popularity, which they did to a certain extent, and I also think it's a lesser album artistically even though that might not be the popular opinion. Sales went from 30 million on "Nevermind" to 15 million on "In Utero", as I'm sure a lot of casual fans were expecting a very different follow up record.

[@nrood79]

Agreed. Nirvana was a One Album Wonder with Nevermind, and they've made a career on their reputation based on that. In Utero was crap. Kurt Cobain was strung out on heroine by then.

[@davidl570]

@@nrood79 Glad I'm not the only Nirvana fan who actually DIDN'T like In Utero! (And Heart-Shaped Box is easily their worst song of all time!). Don't get why the majority of fans think I.U. was the best album they ever put out................it's not!

[@nrood79]

@@davidl570 In Utero has one good song. All Apologies.

[@davidl570]

@@nrood79 That is true.

[@justinwhite9689]

I used to like Nirvana (kinda) I really don't need to hear them. I think Foo Fighters is a much better band.

[@seagullpoet]

The DOORS. “ Soft Parade “.

[@i3ar310]

Waiting for the Sun is killer, but good lord why did they let Rothchild have that much input.

[@analogkid2869]

Can we talk about Martin Popoff and how awesome he is at rock n roll analysis??? Dude is just killer !

[@LuchaLibertaria]

- Here, he says that Motley Crue went from a glam look(Shout At The Devil) to a hair metal look(Theater Of Pain) - Motley Crue had a glam image in both albums, they were dressing up like Kiss on SAT, they went for an Aerosmith-type glam look on TOP. For Hardcore Metal fans at the time, they represented poser glam in '84, they still represented glam in' 85. His analysis is not historically correct.

[@independenceltd.]

@@LuchaLibertaria lol

[@LuchaLibertaria]

@@independenceltd. Haven't you already said that you had enough of me? Mind your own business then. Bye Bye 👍

[@independenceltd.]

@@LuchaLibertaria Your broken record routine is just too hysterical. You're just like the guy who whined to Pete cuz he says, "Good morning," when it's not morning where he is. hahahahahaha

[@LuchaLibertaria]

@@independenceltd. Sorry dude I don't interact with alt-right nazis. Bye

[@claymccoy]

How about doing Albums Most People Hate But I Love?

[@JohnnyRecently]

You mean like The Partridge Family's "Sound Magazine" and "Get The Knack"?

[@mr.jamesvincent3519]

I love Billy Idol's CyberPunk album but, nobody else likes it at all.

[@doscwolny2221]

@@mr.jamesvincent3519 the final cut

[@jake6887]

The 'Spirit of things' by Kansas

[@TheMafrand]

Kiss - Unmasked

[@martinnapier6286]

Pink Floyd are my favourite band of all time but I really dont like The Final Cut which followed The Wall

[@sspbrazil]

I think The Final Cut is a far better concept than The Wall.

[@martinnapier6286]

@@sspbrazil the wall is the first Pink Floyd album I ever heard and it has had a massive impact on me, while I agree the album is overblown with a few tracks I could happily do without I still love it, I find the final cut very difficult to get through and it does nothing for me. I feel the same of waters solo albums

[@sspbrazil]

@@martinnapier6286 the concept of The Final Cut is more cohesive though, I don’t think The Wall’s concept holds together very well.

[@markandersen793]

I love Floyd but The Wall had too much filler, it couldn't touch the 3 albums that preceded it.

[@sspbrazil]

@@markandersen793 exactly.

[@stephanechamberland8486]

Popoff - Pardo , best duo on You Tube !!!!

[@jameskelly8724]

Rolling Stones from Some Girls to Emotional Rescue.

[@jameskelly8724]

I should probably watch the whole video before posting...

[@j.j.4150]

@No More Mr. Fooled Again I love the longer discussions.

[@ldchappell1]

I don't really like anything the Stones did after "Some Girls." I love the 60s Stones. Especially the real early stuff. I could listen to that all day.

[@SH-ud8wd]

Emotional Rescue is OK for me

[@luiscontreras4718]

Hey Pete, how about Mega albums that you have given a second chance. Meaning: multi platinum albums that you never dug on their heyday, or actually hated, but you have since warmed up to.

[@Matt-fs1yy]

Motley Crue ('94) Survivor - Vital Signs Metallica - Black Album VH - Diver Down

[@jerryoutlaw3396]

Turbo after Defenders was a huge let down for me.

[@seagullpoet]

Big time.

[@sydneyhalliwell2513]

Let down, yes. But I love it

[@deansmith6593]

Yeah, hated that album when it first came out and still do.

[@brucefranklin6295]

That was the end for me.

[@Powerslave214]

You said it!

[@Jackylone-]

I play Who Do We Think We Are as much as Machine Head, In Rock, and Fireball.

[@hellojimmypage]

You're not alone, same goes in my case for the rest of overlooked Purple albums: Come Taste the Band, House of Blue Light, Slaves & Masters and Bananas. All awesome!

[@chaddunn9621]

All the 70's Deep Purple albums are great

[@bobthebear1246]

@@hellojimmypage *Slaves & Masters* was not a great album, but it was much better than both critics and fans had given them credit for doing. I still love the brooding, slow, engaging rocker "King Of Dreams" and "Fire In The Basement" but my favorite song is the absolutely incredible, shoulda been a huge hit "Too Much Is Not Enough." Great song.

[@Sabotage8675]

Agree wholeheartedly....don't get it. Love this album. People are too swayed by music critics.....who shouldn't have a job anyway but I digress

[@marcessex7831]

Metallica's Load was the biggest letdown for me, even more than the black album. When the black album came out, yes, it was a clear change in sound from the Metallica that so many of us knew and loved, but it still had some good songs and heavy riffs on it. Plus, you could tell yourself that maybe the band was just experimenting with a new sound to see what happens and that they were perfectly capable of going back and producing another face-melting classic when their next album comes out. Then Load came out and the message was clear: the change in sound was not a one-off. They were now deliberately trying to repeat the mainstream success they found with Enter Sandman by making radio-friendly hard rock.

[@rightchordleadership]

I agree with you 👍🏻

[@mikeandreach3777]

Load is a load of rubbish. That’s all

[@mck7646]

Metallica just aren't very good at rock music. I think Mike Portnoy said it best when he said load and reload may as well have been called Rocktallica. And at least St. Anger was going back to a more metal oriented style.

[@offtherealm5438]

You ain't just whistling Dixie! My argument has always been.... I seen them on the Master of Puppets tour.....Load can never match up to that experience, life event > good Rock album....so what??!

[@newwavepop]

for me Justice was a massive missive let down. then the Black album came out and i just flat out lost interest.

[@kylemacneil3477]

First album that comes to mind is Iron Maiden "No Prayer for the Dying." Total let down after the excellent "Seventh Son."

[@philipholmes5884]

Agree 100% !

[@oggamer3737]

To me, every Iron Maiden song and album sound exactly the same. That is why i just can’t listen it for like more than one song. There is other bands like that too so it is not unique just a bit disappointment.

[@tepidtooth8539]

@@oggamer3737 you’re telling me Remember Tomorrow sounds like The Wicker Man

[@coreycrossman3447]

I'm weird really like no prayer for the dying sure its not as good as 80s maiden but its still classic

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Compared to the garbage they've been putting out lately, NPFTD is an absolute classic.

[@stevesmith3990]

Peter Frampton - I'm In You after Frampton Comes Alive!

[@keithmarus8554]

My first inkling.

[@stevesmith3990]

@@miketheyunggod2534 thank you for that very helpful clarification, would never have known otherwise.

[@Smartie1]

Yep that was a dud

[@harperhellems3648]

hahaha. I was in 6th grade when Comes Alive came out. Almost got a perm I loved Frampton so much. Good God! I'm in You was sooooooo feeble and awful. That cover! Was it cocaine? Corporate greed? Somebody should be made to feel the sting of the lash for that.

[@bobthebear1246]

True. The title track is great, though.

[@garyjoyce2160]

I’m huge 💎 DIAMOND DAVE VH. My favorite VH 1981 FAIR WARNING to 1982 DIVER Down. ( not horrible, but a little bit of letdown ) .

[@LarryFleetwood8675]

I agree, from brilliant to lackluster it's a bit like Deep Purple going from Perfect Strangers to The House of Blue Light.

[@peterberg8417]

And going to 51580 after 1984. Huge letdown. Sammy hagar synth garbage

[@i3ar310]

If not for Diver Down, Roth’s run would have been near perfect.

[@i3ar310]

@@peterberg8417 God 5150 blows, Roth leaving was like taking the venom out of a cobra.

[@SPak-rt2gb]

Montrose: Paper Money was a big letdown some good songs but nothing like the first album

[@ukrocksounds3419]

Agree totally, awesome debut. Then the let down.

[@2424-u8d]

It grows on you. As a follow up ,I totally get it, but I have listened to it alot over the years and judged on its own merits it's a pretty decent album. I think the problem is, we only have those two out of that lineup. One is definitely better.

[@keithshapland903]

@@2424-u8d A lot of bands would love to have recorded something as good as paper Money...that is he issue of recording something so brilliant as Montrose!

[@captainbeyond7469]

Totally disagree about “Who Do We Think We Are” it’s a great album. Rat Bat Blue, Mary Long etc, full of excellent deep cuts. I’m surprised Pete didn’t make a better case as a big Purple fan. IMO Martin really missed the mark here.

[@seaoftranquilityprog]

As I stated, I like the album, but the fact is that is isn't nearly the achievement that Machine Head is, didn't have all those 'fan favorite' songs, and didn't sell nearly as well. Remember, we aren't saying we hate these albums by any means.

[@j.j.4150]

I think you missed the mark on the concept of the show. It's like when talking about overrated Albums. An Album can still be good while also being overrated. Same applies here. It's a good Album, but pales in comparison to the previous one. Financially as well as critically.

[@seaoftranquilityprog]

@@j.j.4150 Spot on. That's what we were going for.

[@starrage7926]

@@seaoftranquilityprog apart from for those about to rock- no real love for that.

[@captainbeyond7469]

@@j.j.4150 I stand by my opinion, unfair criticism of a excellent album. As far as financially Martin himself said it was equally as successful upon initial release. The passing years has made Machine Head a bigger seller but at the time it was equal to Machine Head. As far as the critics they never liked Deep Purple so that’s really irrelevant. Just my opinion you’re certainly entitled to your own. Enjoy your weekend. Cheers!!

[@suedemutant8196]

Pardo/Popoff is i nice Friday afternoon kick off 🤘🤠🤘

[@peter71ify]

I like Who do we think we are. Not so overplayed.

[@gemini2012100]

I agree. And I like "Woman from Tokyo". Oh well. I guess we all have different opinions.

[@tubetea]

Me too, may be my favorite D.P. album.

[@mattshaw5179]

You could do the opposite, great albums that came out after you thought a band had had their day!! Great video!

[@rightchordleadership]

You can’t hear “Evil Walks” and tell me Brian sounds tired. That’s ridiculous.

[@jhutch888]

Top 5 vocal for Brian! Goosebumps time. Anyone who thinks he sounds tired ought to try singing it, even once,

[@petepassiglia8564]

For those about to rock is a great album. Martin misses big time on this

[@gemini2012100]

I remember when I bought the cassette version of "For Those About to Rock", I could barely hear the vocals on the B-side. It was like the vocals were in the background instead of up front.

[@jhutch888]

@@petepassiglia8564, well, this also kind of demonstrates the problem AC/DC face. As much as they might get criticized for doing the same thing over and over: the moment they try something even slightly different, folks are up in arms.

[@jhutch888]

@@gemini2012100, there IS that. Especially on Spellbound (one of my fave AC/DC tracks) ... it sounds like Brian’s in the hallway outside the studio lol

[@iainholmes2735]

I loved Ratt 'Invasion of Your Privacy', but was not keen on the next album: Dancing Undercover. Although the cover art has a certain 'film noir' pastiche that I like.

[@stinky_nut_blast]

Yeah. Big step down, but Body Talk is a banger.

[@justinwhite9689]

It's tough to beat the first 2 Ratt records. But I do like Dancing , Reach and Detonator too

[@offtherealm5438]

Yep, this boy checked out after Invasion. Just like with Crue after Theater of Pain.

[@lastrolo1517]

‘ Dancing’ peters out a bit on side 2 but it’s got a strong core of good tunes and the supertight sequencing of the songs I thought was great (and tbh Invasion had a couple of sub- par songs on side 2 as well). Perhaps the disappointment to me is Crosby’s retraction in favour of DeMartini that would have given a greater variation to the lead work.

[@jake6887]

'Generations' after 'Arrival' by Journey was very disappointing to me 'Killroy was here' after 'Paradise Theater' by Styx is another one.

[@spyralarchytect]

Who Do We Think We Are, and Fireball are my 2 favorite Deep Purple records. With WDWTWA in first place.

[@brucybabyy7355]

rat bat blue! are you kidding me!!!

[@jrhguitarbassdrums]

Me too. Love that album. The ballad, Our Lady , too at the end. Mary Long , is great too

[@gamalon]

I agree ! I much prefer In Rock, Fireball and Who Do We Think We Are to the revered Machine Head which is admittedly a great album but the songs have been played too much live compared to some tracks on other albums with Gillan and Glover who were rarely or never played in concert at the time, which made me quickly bored of Machine Head.

[@thestevec]

Not a band that gets talked about on this channel but Oasis... Whats the Story Morning Glory to Be Here Now Personally like about a third of it but seems like they were already fast running of steam by that point

[@scottscotter6638]

Way to go Pete I have to say as some who has followed you for a few years you keep coming up with good fun topics and people to talk about them with. IMO you now have the best music show on youtube.

[@robertknepper9386]

Pink floyd The Wall Pink Floyd Final cut wtf ?

[@MWL4466]

Yea...that was Rogers leftovers. I still listen to it once in a while though. It has a few gems but not even close to the wall.

[@edwardcoit9748]

It is a big let down.

[@darrenray4121]

The final cut is a bit of an acquired taste but I've grown to greatly love the album over the years

[@aidenswords5809]

The final cut is magnificent, u probably want to to listen to comedy,( it may not be a barrell of laughs)

[@edlawn5481]

The Final Cut grows on you once you accept that it's basically a Roger Waters solo album.

[@kamranmalik8546]

1. Kiss - Dynasty (1979)I love the disco/soft rock attempt they made. 2. Pink Floyd - The Final Cut (1983) you talked about this album yesterday on Rock Fantasy episode. Like you, my least favorite album from the band. Feels like ‘The Wall 2.0’ since it was mostly dedicated Waters’ father. 3. Queen - Hot Space (1982) 4. Fleetwood Mac - Time (1995) bands worst album, loved Behind the Mask (1990) underrated album. 5. Motörhead - Iron Fist (1982) 6. Judas Priest - Point of Entry (1981) 7. Black Sabbath - Never Say Die (1978) 8. Iron Maiden - No Prayer For the Dying (1990) 9. The Allman Brothers Band - Win, Lose or Draw (1975) 10. Asia - Alpha (1985) 11. The Moody Blues - Octave (1978) 12. Emerson, Lake, & Palmer - Love Beach (1978) 13. Bee Gees - Living Eyes (1981) 14. AC/DC - For Those About To Rock (1981) ‘Who Do We Think We Are’ was a great album.

[@jameskelly8724]

Impressive list! Err, of not so impressive albums...

[@LarryFleetwood8675]

I love both the Motorhead and Priest albums.

[@kamranmalik8546]

@@LarryFleetwood8675 me too they’re both great

[@SuperStrik9]

For me Metallica - Load is the definition of this. The Black album was definitely a mega album regardless of anyone's opinion of it. I've never been so disappointed in an album in my entire life as I was with Load. I gave it away for free.

[@rightchordleadership]

It was a load of 💩

[@andrehb]

they must've been burned out from all the touring behind the Black album -- but yea, it's a turd of an album

[@anthonyrivers1619]

Load is awful...and I have given it a chance every 5 years or so since 1996 - I don't get it...what's worse? Re-Load....They were all doing the wrong drugs...

[@andrehb]

@@anthonyrivers1619 I think you might've hit on something -- they were trying to make slower music while still gacked up

[@PRHILL9696]

When metallica was taking a beating from fans and the media for the black album I tried to tell people to give them another chance. I was like yes the black album is horrible and not metal, but to give the band a chance to comeback strong. And then they release LOAD!!!!!

[@DCToonTime]

Boston's second album. How could they have topped or even come close to that first album. Plus fans waited soooooo long for the second one.

[@patriottex4813]

Boston's second album was Dont Look Back released in 1978. 2 years after the premiere album. It is a solid album with some good bangers, but nothing was going to top the original album. I think you're thinking about 3rd Stage which came out in 1986. That album has aged better over time in my opinion. Don't Look Back has my favorite Boston song, A Man I'll Never Be. No way to top the first album, it's like Dark Side of the Moon a perfect album.

[@DCToonTime]

@@patriottex4813 Agreed. It's a great album. I think expectations were too high even given the 2 year wait. Man I'll Never Be is also my favorite from the second album.

[@ddmurley]

I love all those records, but third stage is a huge step down from Dont Look Back

[@MorryB]

Yup, I remember really looking forward to it, and it ended up sounding like a bunch of random demos slapped together. Maybe a couple half decent tracks and that was it.

[@patriottex4813]

@@ddmurley i would disagree. If did yield the band their only number one hit, Amanda. I guess when Third Srage hit in my life it was an album that I appreciated. I connected to it, and always have. Plus I sent the song Amanda to a girl Amanda on a mix tape. So it was perfect for that. Boston is one of my favorite bands, and I can find treasure where others see trash.

[@metalstorm7506]

Helloween - “Pink bubbles go ape”(1991), the album that came after the mighty “Keeper of the seven keys” (both parts)

[@themetalking691]

I agree. I live in Cleveland, Ohio and first heard Helloween's Keeper of the Seven Keys pt.1 on Zrock radio. I had such high hopes for the follow up to the Keeper albums and Pink Buubles go apes was released and is tied for worst right along with Keeper pt.3

[@metalstorm7506]

@@themetalking691 I heavily disagree about the keeper or 3. To be fair I also like pink bubbles and chameleon a lot, but they are even nowadays misunderstood. People are blaming these albums for not being another parts of the keeper saga. Which was basically the band’s intention. These albums were very brave and experimental, especially chameleon

[@modicus1422]

@@themetalking691 There could have been a few songs taken off of Keeper the Legacy (especially on the second disc), but in no way is it worse than Rabbit Don’t Come Easy, Straight Out of Hell, and My God Given Right, at the very least. I think if it had a different name people would like it better.

[@ddmurley]

huge dissapointment. destroyed Helloween for years.

[@TRANZEURO]

Peter Gabriel. 'Us' following 'So'. I know a lot of people may disagree on this one but I remember being disappointed with 'Us' when it came out,and it's still my least favorite Peter Gabriel solo album. The only songs I really like on it are 'Digging In The Dirt' and 'Come Talk To Me'. I thought that the following album 'Up' was a significant improvement.

[@ahmadbarqawi8031]

1. "No Prayer for the Dying" following "Seventh Son of a Seventh Son" 2. "Slip of the Tongue" following "Whitesnake 87"

[@independenceltd.]

I forgot about NPFTD. I've come around on it though. "Whitesnake" was a drop of from "Slide It In".

[@ahmadbarqawi8031]

@@independenceltd.agreed on Slide It In in terms of quality but 87 did huge business for them, and actually Maiden did it again with Dance of Death after Brave New World

[@nodnarb0185]

Honestly in my opinion Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son is a let down compared to Somewhere In Time.

[@independenceltd.]

@@nodnarb0185 Me too, but then SIT was a let down from PS.

[@cumbco]

@@independenceltd. It took me a long time to warm up to SIT after PS. Love it now, but in 86 it was such a let down for me.

[@jayfabe620]

Pete looked to be in pain during the Crüe selection.

[@Maximillian200HP]

You're right, he looks like he's biting his tongue to avoid just ripping into Martin for even bringing them up. lol

[@jazzpunk]

@@Maximillian200HP That segment just played. Funny!

[@williamgainford9332]

started tidying his cds lol

[@swampula]

Pete's face........so funny!

[@williamgainford9332]

@@swampula priceless lol - same when lynn mentioned them lol !!!!

[@hellojimmypage]

Iron Fist. I enjoy it but it ain't nearly as good as its legendary predecessor. Lemmy always claimed it was the only album he never felt satisfied with, I take his word.

[@christianman73]

"Tusk" is Fleetwood Mac's punk and new wave-influenced album (at least on many of the Buckingham-penned songs). I have a lot of respect for the serious creative risks that the band took with it. They could have made an album with a similar sound and style as "Rumours," but they didn't, and as much as I love that great, classic album, I give them credit for going in a very different, and courageous, direction with much of "Tusk."

[@patrickcrowther9195]

A few that come to mind... *Afterburner* by ZZ Top. ‘Eliminator’ wasn’t one of their very best records, but it was a good LP. The follow up lacked memorable songs and had a truly horrible ‘80s production that made it sound as if it had been recorded by robots. *Big Generator* by Yes. The follow up to the remarkably fresh ‘90125’, this one was utter garbage. Shipped gold, returned double platinum. *Emotional Rescue* by The Rolling Stones. Coming after the career rejuvenation of ‘Some Girls’, it was tedious, lazy, throwaway shite. Title track was good, though. *No Jacket Required* by Phil Collins. Coming three years after his superb ‘Hello... I Must Be Going’, this one saw the start of his slide into AOR mediocrity. Slow, sickly sweet ballads, glossy production, horrible Yamaha DX7 keyboards. Yuk, yuk, yuk. And my last choice has just come to me... *Flash* by Jeff Beck. I adored ‘There and Back’, which is probably his second best instrumental LP, and he followed it up with this ghastly abomination of a record. God I was disappointed when I first heard it! I don’t think Nile Rodgers was a great choice for producer, and I say this as a huge fan of the man. He has made some of the greatest records of all time with Chic and Sister Sledge, but this one... it sounds truly horrible. Everything I hate about the ‘80s encapsulated in one lousy album.

[@sizzlechest69]

I'm with you except for No Jacket Required, which I think has a clearer vision than Hello (which I do love). I think it's a definitive 80s pop album, akin to Thriller, Sports, etc.

[@treff9226]

Totally agree with your picks except for Phil Collins '"No Jacket Required" which I think is excellent, well crafted, with a lot of variety and a ton of memorable hooks!

[@davidcottone2700]

90s and most 2000s Metallica albums are disappointing Megadeth risk Van Halen 3

[@Gregbaltzer]

Megadeth were on a downward slide after Countdown to Extinction anyways.

[@robins5798]

Risk was released after Cryptic Writings though, not exactly a "mega album".

[@abe3802]

Who do we think we are is one of my fave Purple albums. Like that one much better than Machine Head.

[@gamalon]

Same for me !

[@brandonbelt5055]

Agree big-time with Theater of Pain and Big Generator. To a tee. I don't agree with For Those About to Rock. Anything would have been a drop-off from Back in Black and I think FTAtR is AC/DC's last great album. I certainly think it's better than Flick of the Switch, although I would agree that Flick of the Switch does rock harder and can be considered Brian Johnson's 'Powerage'.

[@lucone2937]

AC/DC made a great album trilogy with Robert John "Mutt" Lange: "Highway to Hell" (1979), "Back in Black" (1980) and "For Those About to Rock" (1981). After that "Flick of the Switch" (1983) was a big disappoiment probably because it was produced by the band. It's a pity that AC/DC has only played the title track "For Those About to Rock (We Salute You)" on their tours, and not any other tracks from the same album.

[@bobthebear1246]

The expression is "To a T," BTW. I agree with your point, though.

[@brandonbelt5055]

@@bobthebear1246 not if you're talking proper grammar. The origin comes from the game of golf.

[@edlawn5481]

Powerage IMHO is the best album with Bon. Not as "radio-friendly" maybe, but every song is great.

[@brandonbelt5055]

@@edlawn5481 totally agree.

[@tonylema5334]

Love your channel, but I either listen in my car or watch on my phone, so when your guests hold up a CD and say “this”, instead of saying what the record is, can be frustrating...I know, nitpicking, keep up the great content

[@marcbergeron8690]

Deep Purple: I consider that Fireball and Who Do We Think We Are good albums.

[@JohannesYtterstrom]

I agree. Fireball is my favorite and Who Do We Think We Are is sort of an hidden gem. I like every song on both!

[@terrytheman3317]

Fireball is a monster of an album

[@alansmith1989]

@@terrytheman3317 Ian Gillan's favourite too. Those two `Critics` think because they don't rate something- its set in stone-a fact- no good! Well, "Bollocks" Their `bad` L.Ps are others `Greats`

[@sergiomoreira8196]

A big let down for me is Gaucho from Steely Dan. Aja was this jazz masterpiece and three years later we got Gaucho, which to me was a bummer because Aja was amazing.

[@philipwhale]

Have another listen . I personally think Gaucho is a better Album than Aja . In saying that , the Dan are one of the few bands who have no bad albums

[@DrMetalpin]

I’m surprised they both dissed “Woman From Tokyo”. Not the greatest album in the grand scheme of things, but it’s a song worthy of being on their greatest hits. I always liked it.

[@danielvysocky2716]

Great show & topic I will add: Physical Graffiti into Presence Led Zeppelin is my all time favorite band BUT the drop off... my word. I don't care how "Achilles Last Stand" is as a track or the guitar splendor of "Tea For One"... it's such a drop off from the previous, actual songs just aren't there. Actual songs return again with "In Through The Outdoor" even if Page's didn't.

[@InfiniteSunLuciferDLarynx]

Who Do We Think We Are is a fantastic album. Just another example of people listening to the critics.

[@reubensane5539]

Yes so underrated!

[@douchetube1]

Always loved it!

[@reubensane5539]

That’s why Deep Purple called the album “ Who do you think we are” it was in response of the bad reviews from critics.

[@mjack7445]

Yes... Another Purple great album 🤘🎸🤘

[@floriansievers6439]

The only thing that comes to my mind is "Let it be" following "Abbey Road" (even though it was recorded before that). It's just fcomes rom a strict subjective POV. "Pink Bubble go Ape" after "Keeper Part 2" come to mind as well. Never hated that abum, but the sales went down strong for Helloween with that album.

[@dazauto1400]

Thin Lizzy Chinatown was a huge step down from the epic Black Rose album.

[@philipholmes5884]

Renegade was better in my opinion !

[@drummer78]

The Clash’s Sandinista after London Calling. I think Sandinista has its moments but it is a bit much as a triple album.

[@MosoKaiser]

My thoughts as well! London Calling is a long album at over an hour's running time, but the style and genre variation and experimentations keep it from wearing out its welcome. But an hour-and-a-half is just too much for Sandinista. Gotta wonder how differently it works in original triple vinyl form, though. I'd imagine it'd be much more digestable in three distinct chunks.

[@peteriuliano5846]

I Like SUPER TROUPER - SMOOTH DANCER - RAT BLUE Cool Songs I'd Say. Maybe The Critical Perception At The Time Was Not Objective Enough? Hmmm.

[@SomeSong2]

Queen: Hot Space (previous album The Game, multi-platinum, several #1 hits, one of the catchiest albums of all time) Fleetwood Mac: Tusk (previous album Rumours, diamond, #1 and Top 10 hits, one of the first albums the general public thinks of when classic rock albums are brought up) Megadeth: Risk (previous album: Cryptic Writings, gold, multiple rock radio hits, brought in the blue collar, newer Metallica fans which then were alienated by the next couple albums) Genesis: Calling All Stations (previous album: We Can't Dance, multi-platinum, top 10 hits, massive pop crossover audience) Limp Bizkit: Results May Vary (previous album: Chocolate Starfish and the Hotdog Flavored Water, multi-platinum, largest sales week for a rock album of all time, multiple rock radio hits, general mainstream coverage) Linkin Park: A Thosuand Suns (previous album: Minutes To Midnight, multi-platinum, Top 10 hits, biggest band around during the 2000s)

[@SomeSong2]

Edit: Cryptic Writings certified platinum.

[@ppuerling]

Never liked what ZZ Top became,popular yes,good no

[@sydneyhalliwell2513]

Dynasty by Kiss. I really personally enjoy the album but how can you think following up Love Gun with Dynasty? Or better yet following up Dynasty with Unmasked

[@rightchordleadership]

Yeah the band really lost its way during this period. I give them credit for trying new stuff but it just didn’t work.

[@bobthebear1246]

Or even following-up *Unmasked* with *Music From 'The Elder'.* 🙄 Those were each 3 big drop-offs until they came roaring-back with *Creatures Of The Night.*

[@rightchordleadership]

@@bobthebear1246 Which sold poorly. The band didn’t even mount a tour to support that album. I always thought that was interesting. Their big hard rock comeback (which I agree is a good album) totally bombed.

[@macseinchin]

I absolutely love "Shoot High, Aim Low" off Big Generator.

[@analogkid2869]

I do too that’s my favorite song on big generator by far and sounds as if it could have been included on 90125. I like when Jon Andersen and Trevor Rabin trade off vocals like on Changes and this one. Their voices blend great together. Shoot has a haunting atmosphere as does changes.

[@JohnnyRecently]

Right! I like Big Generator a tad more than 90125, and Yes is my favorite band. Holy Lamb brings tears to my eyes. I'm Running is my wife's favorite Yes song.

[@macseinchin]

@@analogkid2869 Haunting is a good word. In the way that Wurm is also haunting (in its own way) for me.

[@macseinchin]

@@JohnnyRecently Big G sounded great in my walkman at the time. Liked it as much as 90125. Running is the sort of song that you either like it or you don't. I like it too.

[@MWL4466]

Great song ! It just rolls along. The " call and response" vocals are amazing.

[@steveseim]

"Love Will Find a Way" > "Owner of a Lonely Heart"

[@JohnnyRecently]

Exactly!

[@greengrass1072]

I loved Big Generator when it came out. I heard Love will find a way on the radio and immediately went out and bought it. Then I became a lifelong Yes freak after that and went and bought everything eventually. Final Eyes and I’m Running will always be favorites of mine. Saw Yes west 4x plus the Union tour, love Trevor Rabin.

[@michaelboggus9993]

Perhaps but Big Generator was nowhere near as deep as 90125

[@steveseim]

@@michaelboggus9993 true.

[@zeprls]

10 million to 4 million..........., How dare you lol. Come on guys. You can’t put out the same album over and over. You’d be the first to complain

[@rightchordleadership]

While not as great as BIB, FTATR is a very very good AC/DC album.

[@markoliponen2099]

Flick Of The Switch is my favourite from Johnson too!

[@anthonyrivers1619]

It is awesome....my older siblings never owned it, never listened

[@toddjackson5131]

90215 is probably my 2nd favorite YES album (Fragile), but I liked Big Generator a lot. 'I'm Running' and 'Shoot High Aim Low' are awesome songs.

[@mjack7445]

Both albums are very good 🤘

[@atlasking6110]

Favorite album but you don't know its name.

[@markandersen793]

Led Zeppelin's Presence, I know it has Achilles Last Stand & Nobody's Fault But Mine, but it followed Physical Graffiti.

[@DetVen]

Yeah, that was an almost impossible task for LZ to follow up PG with something as good, but I will say Achilles Last Stand is my favorite LZ song ever.

[@edwardcoit9748]

No album could follow Physical Graffiti.

[@rickschricter]

I like Presence better than PG. PG is a bottom tier Zep album for me.

[@edwardcoit9748]

rick schricter Physical Graffiti is my all time favorite album. I also like black licorice, so it could be me.

[@i3ar310]

@@rickschricter agreed, the first half of that album carries it. Other than 5 songs it’s just too much junk.

[@alexandergilles8583]

For me, a band where I love their first five albums, but then they had a stylistic shift that has been a huge letdown for me. The Red Hot Chili Peppers. I love those first five albums (RIP Hillel) but everything after Blood Sugar Sex Majik is just a let down and doesn’t grab me like those first five do. Still some songs that I really like, but as a whole, their albums after those first five just don’t grab me.

[@andybrett1152]

Blood Sugar is their best album and after that the albums were average they became too commercial

[@KickflipGnasty]

Californication and Stadium Arcadium are average? Difficult men to please apparently.haha

[@alexandergilles8583]

@@KickflipGnasty oh I never said their later stuff was average. They’re great musicians, recording great music, it’s just not my cup of tea. I’m not a big alternative fan.

[@KickflipGnasty]

@@alexandergilles8583 That's totes fair! I definitely respect that. As a long time fan, I personally don't think their first album is up to snuff with their 90s/ 2000s stuff. Their second album is still awesome but I really don't think their first album is in the same league as the majority of their work.but I totally understand if alternative isn't your style of music it makes sense why there later stuff wouldn't be your cup of tea. Uplift mofo party plan through Blood Sugar is definitely their best, no ifs, ands, or buts about it ✌️🤘

[@alexandergilles8583]

@@KickflipGnasty I will say though, while as a whole, I still much prefer the first five, there’s still a bunch of californication and later era songs that I REALLY enjoy. it’s not so much of a hatred of or disdain for the later sound, just a matter of preference. I’m never gonna have an issue with someone playing any of the californication and later era albums. They’re a great band and I got to see them put on a great show in atlanta during the getaway tour

[@ukrocksounds3419]

Montrose is a great example, great debut, paper money big climb down.

[@jerryattwooll4864]

I do quite like Paper Money, but this is nonetheless a prime example of the concept. Despite my quite liking PM, Montrose is one that immediately sprang to mind for me as well.

[@markandersen793]

You beat me to it, I was thinking the same thing: how disappointing Paper Money was, after their seminal debut Montrose.

[@newavatar2947]

Sammy blames Ronnie for wanting to take the band in a new direction after the stellar debut. Sammy says he himself drove the direction of the debut and Ronnie felt threatened that he was gonna lose control of the band to Sammy.

[@inmyhouse11]

Judas Priest- Defenders of the Faith to Turbo Boston debut to Dont Look Back Twisted Sister Stay Hungry to Come Out and Play Rush Signals to Hold Your Fire Raven All For One to The Pack is Back

[@Love_Street]

I disagree on Boston and Rush

[@anthonyrivers1619]

I agree on your list - I know Raven's 'Stay Hard' gets ripped, but I don't mind it so much - but you're right - The Pack is Back is just awful....fucking Atlantic ruined that band!

[@RickNBacker]

Raven, absolutely (they have a new album out by the way)... but Signals was followed by Grace Under Pressure (which qualifies for me, didn't care for it at the time, like it a little better now but it's still deficient in proggy arranging)...

[@scagooch]

The deep purple sounds like a contract obligation.

[@treff9226]

One of the biggest disappointments in hard rock history has got to be Montrose following up that legendary debut, which is really about as good as American hard rock gets (ask Van Halen!) With the Paper Money album. That release shocked all of us with the lack of energy and direction - Ronnie and co. totally phoned this one in, later it was said that Ronnie just wanted to do one of his total reversals, running from previous success to go against the tide! I will say I dig " I've Got The Fire" but that's it from Paper Money. Yeah, gotta give Tusk another go round! People like it!

[@CrazyLG72]

The Kiss solo albums were a massive letdown for me after the release of Love gun and Alive 2..Also G n Rs debut then we get a poor 2nd album with Lies

[@CrazyLG72]

@MrBrenman I agree with you..but at the time I was looking forward to a new Kiss album in 78. The singles were odd picks too. Except Gene's Radioactive which sounded like a normal Kiss song which I got the 45 as a present..The other 3 albums I didn't have any interest in until years later..

[@mikefisher2673]

Had all the solo albums back in 78, Ace was the best one of all of them followed by Simmons. I do enjoy Simmons album because it's so Bizarre.

[@midohiobuckeyeaorwarrior9743]

@@mikefisher2673 Gene's album was NOT good. Paul's album was the second best of the four. Peter's was the worst.

[@mikefisher2673]

@@midohiobuckeyeaorwarrior9743 I have not heard Paul's album for years, but Gene singing When You Wish Up On A Star was so bad at first I thought it was a joke.

[@georgasmussen9318]

WDWTWA is classic Deep Purple, with all their trademarks and much better production than MH. It's rather solid Hard Rock than "Metal", to be sure. And if you don't wanna listen to overrated "Smoke on the Water" for a change, or "Highway Star" for the umpteenth time, you should check this out!

[@fourseasons4105]

1. ELP- Works Vol. 1 2. Queen- Hot space 3. Metallica- Black album 4. Black Sabbath- Technical ecstasy 5. Dream theater- Falling into infinity 6. Iron maiden- No prayer for the dying 7. Yes- Big generator (and basically everything going forward) 8. Radiohead- Amnesiac 9. Deep purple- Who do we think we are 10. Led Zeppelin- Presence

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Dance Of Death from Brave New World is a frightening drop of quality especially in songwriting.

[@WhizzRichardThompson]

As far as I'm concerned Michael Mcdonald destroyed what was great and unique about the Doobie Brothers. Horrible voice as well. There, I've said it.

[@abdulbasheer6551]

I would pick Blackfoot's Vertical Smiles, not just as a follow up to the previous album but after a run of 5 great studio albums plus an awesome live one as well, they came up with this. Real let down.

[@tomfabozzi6309]

I like "Siogo", the album before it, but it wasn't a massive hit - in fact, the previous 3 had been Gold or Platinum, but Siogo wasn't even certified. So it wasn't exactly a massive hit

[@captainkirk70]

FTATR is better than BIB overall. Title song slays, Let's Get It Up etc. End of my AC/DC era.

[@dangerdolls]

Let's face it. Michael McDonald could kill any band. I lost interest with Takin' It to the Streets. Ah, and now as I type this Pete is agreeing with me.

[@independenceltd.]

I can't stand him.

[@themaven4054]

Have to disagree with both of you. Woman From Tokaaayo is so much better than that monotonous Smoke On The Water. But like you say Pete, we all have our own opinions. :)

[@SJHUE]

I struggled with `The Long Run` after `Hotel California`. As a side note `The Long Run` was the first album I bought that cost over £4. That made it hurt a little bit more lol. Also disappointed with `For Those About To Rock` after `Back In Black`

[@kurtmillard5904]

Considering the Eagles stated they broke up over the Long Run, everyone agrees that album was a letdown

[@jamesnash7262]

...Manassas, a masterpiece...Down the Road, meh...

[@LarryFleetwood8675]

I dig Muscle of Love quite a bit, it's a different beast alright bur it has some very good songs it kind of reminds me of the band America, if they'd done somewhat harder rock with a psychedelic swing...

[@richardpietroski9263]

yes BG I love Final Eyes off that cd but its a weak cd. Never cared for Don't look back from Boston off the debut. ZZtop fits you weren't matching eliminator. Love asia debut 2nd is boring. Alan parsons Project Eye of the sky is really good and Ammonia Avenue is so safe. Supertramp Breakfast in America is so good but Famous Last Words you can tell they were disinterested and hated each other at that point. I like Tusk. I wouldn't put on this list.

[@alanthorne3921]

I actually really like Big Generator except for the title song and the cover.

[@liquidvizionsmadferit]

Btw. Don't believe the hype about that Corabi Motley album. If as many people who talk about how great it was/is would have bought it. Well, it wouldn't have tanked. Sometimes people just like to talk. They just think it's trendy to do. Fake and sad.

[@rightchordleadership]

I like The Who By Numbers, but after the mighty Quadrophenia it was quite a comedown.

[@edwardgonczy3170]

I think Pete just needed an LP of songs and I like it a lot. He was really burned out by the whole "concept" thing and it had been very difficult to perform in concert unlike Tommy. And I know Tommy was good, especially in the early days before they got burned out on that too. I saw them at Fillmore East (May 18, 1969) 2 days after it's New York release. At that point they were testing the waters and only playing an abbreviated version of it but it was unbelievably powerful. They would start the set with "Heaven and Hell", "Can't Explain", "Young Man Blues", "Fortune Teller" and others and then they went into Tommy. But not in it's entirety as they did later in the year. They skipped "Overture", "Underture", "Christmas" and others, basically abridging it to about 35 minutes. Then they would finish the set with "My Generation" often reprising some snippets from Tommy and then close with "Magic Bus". Man, they were good.

[@rightchordleadership]

@@edwardgonczy3170 Greatest live rock band ever, in my opinion.

[@edlawn5481]

But "Slip Kid" is one of their best songs ever.

[@rightchordleadership]

@@edlawn5481 It’s a cool tune

[@NelsonMontana1234]

In the Wake of Poseidon following In The Court of the Crimson King.

[@marksieczko7766]

Yeah, forgot about that one.

[@davidmassey9171]

For Those About to Rock was just as good as Back in Black...All songs Rock....

[@brettengland192]

The blue and turquoise color motif of "Big Generator" is easier on the eyes, Pete. "Shoot High Aim Low" and "Holy Lamb" are outstanding tracks on that album.

[@stinky_nut_blast]

I'm Running ?

[@edlawn5481]

I still love the album, but what about The Who By Numbers after Quadrophenia.

[@sidefish8362]

Yes Tormato.. what a comedown from GFTO

[@jornfox3545]

this is the ultimate letdown followup to a timeless masterpiece, took me a long time to recover from this, still workin on it lol.

[@2424-u8d]

Tormato isn't that bad people.

[@sidefish8362]

@@2424-u8d It sounds like a LEGO version of Yes

[@Daniel-415-Ponce]

Tormato has three or four good songs, but my overall impression is that the album sounds like one of those mediocre odds-and-ends collections that record labels put out to cash in after a band has either ceased to be relevant or broken up.

[@2424-u8d]

@@sidefish8362 LOL, you're not far off

[@STEVEHEROLD]

my pick: Simple Minds Once Upon A Time and the follow up (excluding the live album) Street Fighting Years

[@greengrass1072]

I agree 100% there. Loved Once Upon a Time and played the hell out of it. That follow up was so disappointing I remember. I went to see them a couple of years back in Bethlehem Pa. It was their first time playing the states in a long time and they were fantastic. Some of their most recent albums have been pretty good. I loved Graffiti Soul, it’s a good album for you to check out if you haven’t already.

[@STEVEHEROLD]

@@greengrass1072 i saw them on the return to the states tour few years ago too but at Roseland in NYC. I just picked up Neapolis after hearing an intv with Mel Gaynor. They kinda lost me after Good News so I appreciate the suggestion. I'll check out Graffiti fer sure.

[@sanddab]

'Wishbone Four' was a letdown after the great 'Argus' album.

[@bradb3248]

Argus is a classic, impossible to come close to.

[@MrSmitht04]

Pink Floyd’s final cut has to be the worst follow up album in history. In my opinion

[@arnaudb.7669]

Stevie Wonder : "Journey Through The Secret Life of Plants" following "Songs In The Key of life" Gentle Giant : "The Missing Piece" following "Interview" Steely Dan : "Gaucho" following "Aja". Weather Report : "Mr Gone" following "Heavy Weather". Tony Williams Lifetime : "Million Dollar Legs" following "Believe It"

[@christrump6501]

I have "Journey Through The Secret Life of Plants", and I love it!

[@arnaudb.7669]

@@christrump6501 Sure, but it was a huge letdown (at least commercially) after the success of Songs in the Key of Life.

[@edlawn5481]

@@arnaudb.7669 Stevie had an amazing run from Talking Book to Songs in the Key of Life, yes that was a huge letdown.

[@nhzrocks]

I always enjoy much of Martin's commentary but with regards to AC/DC he's way off! Sorry but 'Flick...' is poorly produced, dull as dishwater rock ('Guns for Hire' the only decent song on it!)! 'The songs on 'For those...' are slower (and?), have lots of lingering chords (like most AC/DC albums!), and silly titles/lyrics (have they really ever been applauded for profound lyrics? e.g. Deep in the hole....how moving/intelligent!!!!). What makes 'For those..' good is that the songs 'are' different, more light and shade (relatively speaking)! As with many rock/metal bands they hit a purple patch with 'Highway...'Back..' and 'For those...'..after that they returned to the basic formula of material and production which in my view doesn't hold a candle to any of the previous three. It would be interesting to know how much influence Lange had on the arrangement of the songs on those three albums which turned them from (in all honesty) a basic rock band to a world class act...and as Pete always says...... 'it's just my opinion folks" lol!

[@garyjoyce2160]

CARS- CANDY-O 1979. ( to me - tremendous) to CARS - PANORAMA 1980.

[@JohnnyRecently]

For Sure.

[@inmyhouse11]

Took awhile to get used to Panorama but the downfall was Shake It Up

[@Love_Street]

Candy O best album imo. I know what you mean but panorama has its moments.

[@newavatar2947]

Panorama is awesome just not as commercialy accessible as the first two.

[@jameskelly8724]

@@inmyhouse11 exactly my sentiments.

[@aviationlba747]

I disagree with Who Do We Think We Are being a letdown, I love that album almost as much as Machine Head.

[@TimmyTantrum]

Definitely would want to see another one of these, but I could probably watch a video of Pete and Martin discussing the grade of paper Martin will use for his next book for an hour and be perfectly entertained, so... A few for me that come to mind: The Final Cut after The Wall No Prayer after Seventh Son Turbo after Defenders Heads or Tales after Worlds Apart Signals after Moving Pictures Promised Land after Empire Lightning Strikes after Thunder in the East Though, I like or love both albums from each.

[@tempestfury8324]

Signals is one I forgot....great call! I was even hesitant about adding Thunder in the East because it was so "Americanized".

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

No Prayer is leagues better than the tripe they're putting out lately

[@lahloonatic]

Yes exists today thanks to those Trevor Rabin songs. Changes is a killer song. Better than anything on tales from somniferous oceans

[@MusicFun-gd1cm]

That’s a hot take!

[@jordanfarquharson5345]

Haha!

[@douglashanau3339]

Christine McVie (perfect) is the most underrated song writer in rock

[@jeffjackson9679]

It's funny, I never was a huge fan of her 70s output, but a huge fan of her 80s stuff. Little Lies and Hold Me are still some of my favorite FM sons of all time.

[@philipwhale]

WHY , is one of the greatest songs ever written . Pure magic ❤️