Seb Coe’s SHOCKING REVELATION to Simon Jordan about the issues that athletics face with doping.

[@Mark-sc4bu]

The simple answer to Simon Jordan's question on why Sporting governing bodies seem to attract corrupt people can be summed up in one word: Money. The sums of money that are available are then evaluated in the context of risk - the financial rewards make the realisation of any risk of being caught in corrupt practices worth while. Seb Coe then refers to the power issue where high ranking officials to all intent and purpose become untouchable - Sepp Blatter leaps to mind as arguably the most high profile example of this. Power and money are too great a temptation for too many people, and abuse of position and betrayal of trust soon follows..as the saying goes, "absolute power corrupts absolutely...".

[@Mycloudacoustic]

They cheated before money. In the early days of the Tour de France people were found to take lifts of cars or trains lol money does amplify it. But if people value the prize lots will go over the line to win it - regardless of the price (Flo Jo………as I understand). Then if lots cheat (or are perceived to cheat) then what do the ‘honest’ ones do ? Two choices. Lose or cheat Truth appears to me that sport and athletics treat cheating as a price worth paying (collateral damage, friendly fire) for THEIR glory, importance and money. Look at Blatter in football (and Infantino now) - are they serving football or is football serving them ? It’s a fair question to ask - same can be asked about athletics

[@2DXYSU]

Yes but it's not just money. Businesses deal in large amounts of money but they are far less corrupt. There are 2 reasons for this: 1. They compete with other businesses for customers (they are not de facto monopolies). 2. They have owners whose own money is at stake. This means they make much greater efforts to audit all of their internal processes. When they do get involved with corruption, it's usually because they bribe a government official who is not constrained by 1 or 2 above.

[@markbateman9222]

Does he really believe that not testing positive for any banned substance is proof that the athlete has not taken any banned substance? Come off it! I accept that it is harder to cheat today than it has ever been but with professional medical advice, coaches that are clued up as to the latest stuff available it is still possible to cheat and pass every drugs test the athlete is forced to take.

[@thefatlosscode365]

It's easy to circumvent the test when you understand the ratios and clearance times. You only get caught when your doc messes up

[@AbdisalamFarah391]

During the Covid, many countries won sport they rarely won in the past. That shows you that during the Covid, it was easy for the athlets to cheat because first there wan't a lot of testing and second if they were cought they had an excuse to say they had Covid and it came form the medication they were taking. In my opinion many athlets can first use dobing to train for years and the stop if when they reach peak strenght... when they are clean from the dobing few weeks they can compete and it will not show on the test.

[@RaineriHakkarainen]

Seb Coe's 1,41,71 was tougher than Jarmila's Krachtohlivova's 1:53,87 the british army calculeted formula 76/69 difference between Men and women! So we get Coe 1,41,71x76/69=1,51,87 if Doper Coe was a women then The result 1,51,87! East German men record was 1,43,8! Doper Coe is a hypocrite! Coe is a scum bag doper!

[@RaineriHakkarainen]

Ban all doping records like Coe 1,41,71 Randy Barnes 23,12 Jonathan Edwards 18,29 Griffith Joyner 10,49 Sergey Bubka 614 Mike Powell 895cm and so on!! Not going to happen because the western world loves their dopers!

[@Chiller11]

I just got through listening to an interview with Victor Conte who cast a very suspicious eye on the Jamaican sprinters of the early 2000’s including Usain Bolt. The rapid improvements especially of some of the women Olympic sprinters are really implausible without pharmaceutical assistance. He cited an American sprinter who trained with the Jamaican team for awhile. Though Mr. Conte wouldn’t name his source he said the sprinter reported that there was no testing of any of the athletes in the 6 months the sprinter was in Jamaica.

[@brixcomputers5599]

In the 80s The Swedes developed a Steroid based on plants and not meat based protein. That has been what they have been using. Marion Jones was the most tested athlete in the history of Athletics and never once tested positive. Who remembers the Winter Olympics in Lille France when the entire team from one of those Nordic countries ran away from where they were staying? The root cause of it in Athletics is of course the Winner gets the prize and fame. Winning a Medal at the Olympics can change your life.

[@KitagumaIgen]

Could you give us some more details and if possible references?

[@skeetssaer2018]

@@KitagumaIgen The first time Steroids appeared in Track Sports was the Olympics of Rome. During the Cold War the Olympics was a major battle ground so by the time the 70s arrive you have runners like Kratchkilova, Koch and Dreschler. As an example in the 1983 World Championships East Germany ran a 41.78 in the 4x100. What was the winning time in the Paris Olympics. Look it up and you will find that Carl Lewis tested positive at that same Games. After 1983 the Americans hear about the Swedish solution and as part of the cold War it is implemented in Division 1 NCAA schools. If you look at the finalists for all of the Sprint events at this Olympics they all go to American Unis. There was a magazine called Athletics that had the story about the Swedes and I am sure it was also in the Toronto Star. As Chemistry improved another tact was employed with the improvement of steroids that were easier to absorb so that if you took it early enough it would not show up in testing.This was for professionals as they could not compete at the Olympics at that time. They even found a couple of horse steroids that the body accepted and that was the creation of the Santa Monica Track club. BTW Dreschler jumped 7.48 M in the long jump. Getting back to Santa Monica all of them wore braces for a reason. Then there is the USC/UCLA connection. In those days I got a scholarship offer from USC and it came with a waiver but UCLA was the first college team to run 2:59:9 int he mile relay. At that time in Toronto, Canada there were 2 institutions for track. Central Tech and York and the High schools around York Uni. At Central Tech we ran for the spirit of competition and would regularly compete against American schools I ran against people that played in the NFL. These are some of the names of tech. Micheal Smith, Atlee Mahorn, Tony Sharpe and Carl Folkes. York was where when I was 15 in the summertime I got the "You need to be on the program BS". I came home after 3 months of Div 1 uni after I noticed stretch marks. I weighed 172lbs from the time I was 17 until 19. When I came home after 4 months in the States I weighed 225 Lbs. The Danger with all Steroids is they trick your body into doing puberty over so your emotions can be all over the place. Like the time Flo Jo put a hot iron on Greg Foster's chest when he was sleeping because he was friendly to a woman. I met Carl Lewis at the Penn Relays, when he took off his shirt to put on his singlet his back looked like the surface of the moon with the acne. Acne is a sign of steroid use. Don't let me tell you about Blood Doping.

[@satjinder]

Used to watch track and field throughout the 90s and early 00’s but stopped watching after numerous drug scandals

[@martyn26.2]

I used to watch things like the Tour de France as well but don't now.

[@mickyovy2633]

Using the little poor kid off the street example with nothing to lose ??? What about the little rich kid - Lance Armstrong ! Carl Lewis ! Linford Christie ! Gatlin ! Gay ! Mary Decker ! .....etc.. ?

[@brixcomputers5599]

Carl Lewis was not rich. He was not poor but he was not rich.

[@mickyovy2633]

@@brixcomputers5599 deary me - hand picked ! privileged ! same thing precious ?

[@joseflemire4284]

@@brixcomputers5599 Armstrong was not rich

[@malc796]

Not many Olympic gold medalists in track do it naturally. EPO is rife. You’re crazy not to do it.

[@anthonychase4364]

What about cycling?

[@Dan-zz4jb]

Doping / drug use and other forms of cheating are high on everyone's radar, but frankly, if someone has to give up a large bulk of their life's time/energy/money in order to train to be an Olympian - something is wrong. The vast majority don't get medals, let alone sponsorship. In many ways, training to be an Olympian is a total waste of time and is often a luxury that is only available to the select few that have the necessary inherited wealth and freedom to train that much.

[@Djanthonybailie01]

There be no sports with out roids !

[@alexreid4131]

There’d be sports. There wouldn’t be elite level amateur or professional sports. We could still kick a football about though for a laugh.

[@roberthowe2910]

Steve overt..a proper natural....the rest...debatable.....

[@alexreid4131]

@@roberthowe2910 you mean Steve Ovett perhaps? If so then I had a ton of respect for him back when he was active.

[@roberthowe2910]

@alexreid4131 .no I think Steve was totally natural..one off the few wat was clean....running for him was fun.....along with Peter elliot..from Sheffield area.....

[@alexreid4131]

@@roberthowe2910 not sure why you started your response with “no”. I was just trying to confirm you meant Steve Ovett and that there wasn’t another runner called Steve Overt as you initially stated. And yes Peter Elliot was another awesome Brit. Steve Cram, Steve Ovett, Peter Elliot and Seb Coe were an amazing time in British middle distance running.

[@musik102]

Make the punishment for drug taking more severe.

[@PazLeBon]

The Cliff Richards of Athletics :)

[@Released_Sausage]

Richard

[@PazLeBon]

@@Released_Sausage Indeed, called him that since my mom was ai fan 40 odd years ago too ;) was the easy xmas gift, sounds of Ciff 1985

[@alaskanmalamute101]

they should just allow anything its ridiculous we all knows its a game of staying ahead of the drugs testing

[@viralfire]

Sport governance has become an utter joke. Huge nepotism in every governing body. Currently, in the cycling Tour of Poland the race director has his wife and brother both working as race officials.

[@greece_crypto]

Have you taken any banned substances Mr Coe? Do people know you had asthma? and did you take banned substances as an athlete?

[@KitagumaIgen]

Wasn't it Steve Ovett that gad asthma, he had an attack during a qualification race in LA 1984.

[@TheMarman57]

Bats catch moths, moths develop jamming techniques to confuse the bats ultrasound location abilities - but bats still catch moths. So it is with doping in sports; doping cheats are somethimes caught - athletes and sports physiologists find new substances and means of enhancing human performance chemically without detection - dopers are still caught - athletes dope - some are caught, some are not. Methods of doping become so refined that they are almost impossible to detect. Yet offenders are still occasionally caught. As long as there is huge money to be made from sponsership and endorsements in sports, the cat-and-mouse game will continue.

[@paulreidy8672]

I was a fan when you ran during the 80s ... but you looked miserable at the Olympics, wouldnt have hurted to smile!!

[@tonydiaz2541]

Just make drugs legal and then see who complains the most!

[@geoffreymccann2841]

This guy competed at the top level when drug used was rife and very little testing was done. Now people can still take substances that are so called legal that have huge impacts on performance when used to do so . These interviews are just a complete waste of time . British boxing shouldn't have to pay for testing wada should be doing it . A sports body shouldn't be charged with the testing or you end up like American football. The whole sports testing thing is still a shit show .

[@taponespantapajaritos3937]

He should know it all started at Cambridge and ex nazis in Arg,Urg and US

[@brixcomputers5599]

Marita Koch 47.60 The Womens 800m World record. East Germany had a long jumper that Jackie Joyner made everyone forget.

[@johncampbell463]

@@brixcomputers5599You would be shocked at how important chemists were to US track success in the 80’s

[@Released_Sausage]

@@brixcomputers5599Kratochvilova.

[@raystevenson9402]

Mo Farah Linford Christie’s Allan Wells cheats

[@Steven71179]

I suppose you think Usain Bolt was clean 😂

[@jmo8934]

It’s almost impossible to believe that he was since his rivals that he thrashed Asafa Powell, Tyson Gay, Justin Gatlin, Yohan Blake all failed at least one drugs test some of them more. Jamaica don’t want to know about drug testing, neither it seems do much of athletics and when their athletes fail a test it’s a ‘conspiracy’. The Russians have zero morals, the Kenyans are massive dopers. Athletics is long dead.

[@AbdisalamFarah391]

I think it is wrong to use someone's name if you don't have 100% proof... what you have is suspicion and suspicion can't be a proof.

[@Released_Sausage]

Keely Hodgkinson?

[@randyevermore9323]

. . . and Ray Stevenson pathological liar

[@David-ce1nh]

I gave up watching track and field Athletics 10 years ago. Its packed full of drug cheats

[@PazLeBon]

if its packed hen i guess its a fair competetion :)

[@jmo8934]

Not really since a lot of them are not on drugs. Most of the medal winners likely are though.

[@andrewcockburn7484]

All pro sport has drug cheats. The difference is that athletics at least tries to catch them.

[@PazLeBon]

@@andrewcockburn7484 possibly a fair point

[@jmo8934]

Where physicality is crucial you will have doping. For Athletics and cycling in particular though everyone can do those activities it’s just about how quickly you can do it. There isn’t much skill involved. So they are particularly susceptible to drug use.