Jason Kidd beefed his way into being called a "coach killer"

Jason Kidd may or may not have gotten his coach fired when he was with the New Jersey Nets. We'll leave that up to your judgment. He DEFINITELY had beef with coaches, though, and carried it with him through several different stops as an NBA player.
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[@vetoland92]

"We played golf" will be my go-to line if I ever have beef with someone lol

[@mat-sd7eh]

also add in that you had dinner and lunch with the guy don't forget that

[@bigoldoinks1219]

No lie 🤣

[@KidFresh71]

Not gonna lie, Kidd sounds like a real piece of work.

[@kaminsod4077]

Wife beaters typically aren't very likeable unless they've got good PR agents working overtime.

[@773p]

“I wasnt yelling it’s your fault for listening” greatest defense ever 😩🤣🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Thor-Orion]

Probably the second greatest, only following “depends what your definition of ‘is’ is.”

[@Riles3152]

A pretty weird dichotomy how one of the most unselfish, prototypical PG’s in NBA history, who made everyone on his team better as a floor general everywhere he went, could also seemingly carry himself in such a selfish, almost toxic like manner off the court and within the organization. Some of these stories make Terrell Owens look like Tim Duncan by comparison 😩

[@kevinzonck9658]

He literally admits it lmfao. Listen to any of the numerous podcasts he's done since retiring

[@louisyank5326]

Kidd never outgrew his last name

[@NJ-sd9zb]

As a diehard Nets fan the three year run of Kidd and Kenyon Martin doesn’t get enough retrospective attention outside of NJ. Those teams are legendary here and the stories, from the turnaround, to the beefs with ownership, the playoff dominance, the off-court dramas, the move and more have never been fully mined. Obviously biased, but I think that could make for a hell of an interesting doc.

[@nocturne311]

A Nets/Kidd doc covering 2002-2007 would be gold. I would watch that in a heartbeat.

[@Watchingvideoslikeu]

Kenyon gets too much credit. J-Kidd was the sole engine

[@DanaOrangeTookYourCash]

Yeah it’s legendary…. There. Lol

[@DanaOrangeTookYourCash]

@@Watchingvideoslikeu Kmart was Mid! Good role player but that’s it.

[@tudorungureanu3539]

@@nocturne311 secret base has one. It's linked at the end of this video.

[@mooingAlong]

The fact that he played with braces in college is an achievement we should recognize.

[@ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI]

I’ve always said Jason Kidd looks like the villain from a mid 90’s Disney Channel movie

[@maralorca6518]

Loved Jason Kidd as a player. Great mind. He had a lot of influence too. But as a coach, I really wish he'd just be an assistant. Though it would be funny if a "coach killer" like him gets canned in the same way, especially if the Mavs don't improve. Then he'll know how that feels. 😅

[@benjaminwaters275]

Honestly after watching the Kidd-Jackson-Mashburn beef, maybe he just easily recognizes bad qualities in coaches and knows how they tank a team. He didn’t have a problem with Carlisle. Or maybe he just likes being in control. Only Jason Kidd can say

[@christiancoates609]

Karma's a b****

[@MrOctober44]

​​@@benjaminwaters275That's one example of like a dozen coaches, lol. Have you heard one coach saying how much he liked coaching Kidd? Kind of strange no one has since he played 20 years and was a first ballot hall of famer. As far as his early Mavs years, Motta coached almost 2,000 games in the league. Nelson traded him, who's considered one of the greatest coaches/GM's.

[@matthewdavis4393]

​@@benjaminwaters275He didn't have public beef with Carlisle as a player, but he got his current job after the Mavs pressured Carlisle into 'resigning'

[@QuestionEverything562]

The Mavericks have become super woke with their diversity hire practices within the organization. I wonder how long it will take for them to investigate more into Jason Kidd's history of domestic abuse and DUIs. I get a strong feeling that the Mavericks will fire him after this season. It won't just be because they lost in the 1st or 2nd round.

[@GoodTimerCO]

summary: kidd acted like a grown ass kid his entire career. got it.

[@americasteam2112]

At least he seemed to mature when he was in his 2nd Mavs stint.

[@dylanwesley3964]

Grown ass kidd*

[@playlist1883]

I feel like this video confirms that Jason Kidd is kinda frightening. I can't imagine what it was like to be married to this guy.

[@cazu2479]

Dude’s a wild card

[@billblaski9523]

Why? What yall mean about him?

[@robertbui9030]

his time on the Knicks was pretty good at least

[@MortanAMrk]

You can actually imagine what its like to be married to him considering the confirmed facts

[@landlocked_lifts332]

Beef History: Jason Kidd vs His Wife

[@UncleJrueForTue]

Marriage Counselors claim he's literally uncoachable!

[@Liam-ex4mf]

Eh we dont know what happen between them

[@UncleJrueForTue]

@@Liam-ex4mfWe don't know what happened between them, *YET* 30 for 30: Just Kidding Around

[@QuestionEverything562]

​@@UncleJrueForTuelmao is that a legit 30 for 30 documentary?

[@UncleJrueForTue]

@@QuestionEverything562 Depends on how Brave ESPN is willing to be.

[@kapowjam3462]

I had no idea that Kidd got the Bucks coach fired so he could coach the Bucks. Always learning something with Secret Base.

[@RolandBullock-ej8wl]

Kinda sounds like this year's Bucks......Doc mentor role for Griffin who gets mysteriously fired so He can take over haha.....what's in that water up there Milwaukee

[@donflo3]

It’s bittersweet when Secretbase covers the early 2k New Jersey Nets. Back to back finals appearances. Then 20 years later we probably have the greatest scoring team ever and the opportunity slips again. I do think we are headed in the right direction w the rebuild and some of these young players.

[@ShadowThe771]

Then management cut most of the team to cut costs. Sad.

[@duyanhng8430]

they should trade mikal while he's great and recoup some of the picks that they spend because damn it looks bleak

[@tr0ncarter]

Lmao sick rebuild. The Nets are a poverty franchise

[@davestier6247]

The nets will never consistently spend, and consistently spend intelligently. They'll always be dollar store tier nba franchise. Sorry.

[@BiggaNiqqa]

Fitting last name for him. Such a kid

[@gardenboydon]

Those 90s Mavs teams were truly awful

[@paulpsycho78]

Until they got better, then the three Js fought over Toni Braxton.

[@christiancoates609]

"Coach Killer" is one of those things that, just the fact that you are accused of it, kinda already makes it true. Honorable mention: Deron Williams (RIP Jerry Sloan)

[@bennisford1712]

🎯🤣

[@CrazyxEnigma]

Magic Johnson was accused of such too.

[@lk5388]

​@@CrazyxEnigma j.kidd actually was arrested.

[@CrazyxEnigma]

@@lk5388 For domestic violence yes. What does that have to do with other players having the coach killer label?

[@mongoslade277]

​@@CrazyxEnigmaIt's true. Magic Johnson got Paul Westhead fired. Some people think he got Pat Riley fired from the Lakers as well. Riley getting fired from the Lakers was more of James Worthy & Byron Scott

[@homunculusSZN]

Seth putting in that work as always

[@prolazoi774]

Seth and Secret Base, you mad geniuses... I can't believe you ended the video on a real life cliffhanger

[@Evs78101]

Damn. I didn’t know Jason Kidd had beef with coaches. The irony that he is one now 😂

[@iwishiwasthomasshelby]

Thank God for Seth! He should do all the NBA ones.

[@usa5439]

These beef videos are probably my favorite series on all KZbin

[@markjackson6431]

Rewinder: 2006 Orange Bowl 3OTs Beef History: Lindros vs Flyers Organization Overlap: Greatest College Football Coach (Saban) and the Greatest NFL Coach (Belichick) coaching in the same division Beef History: Phil Jackson and Pat Riley Untitled: Reggie Miller Untitled: Tracy McGrady Untitled: Ken Griffey Junior Untitled: Carl Yastrzemski Untitled: Ted Williams Untitled: Jim Kelly Collapse: Early 90s Bills Prism: Steph Curry and all those mid major players Rewinder: The Catch By Willie Rewinder: Wide Right I, Wide Right II Rewinder: Hank Aaron and Bonds breaking the respective HR record Untitled: Don Nelson

[@manzac112]

Jason Kidd has something us hockey fans called "Peter DeBoer Syndrome". He'll bless you with a deep playoff run or have the team surpassed expectations on one or two occasions, but then his coaching style gets exposed and his team's performance slowly wears down.

[@harrisonlee9585]

Jason Kidd has popped up in a lot of these

[@keano1416]

Secret Base NBA ❤ Rewatched the collapse of the Knicks so many times haha

[@Kauko13]

Luka a coach killer? What? One coach left in his 6 seasons... Carlise was there for more than a decade and wanted a change.

[@CrazyxEnigma]

B-B-But Luka was responsible for getting him fired!!! Narratives are funny like that even though it's public knowledge why Carlisle left.

[@Enthusiast230]

Beef History: Jason Kidd Vs Father Time

[@velvetjonez06]

Luka as a coach killer is a stretch but another classic

[@somedudefromTX]

Right? How can you 'kill' someone who resigned?

[@loveNsuccessfollowsme]

​@emcee_spokesman because they liked him and instead of firing, they told him to resign.

[@darnellmonk2086]

@@loveNsuccessfollowsmeHe resigned on his own. He had a year left on his deal and knew he wasn’t going to get extended.

[@loveNsuccessfollowsme]

@darnellmonk2086 oh ok, thanks for the knowledge.

[@somedudefromTX]

@@darnellmonk2086 He resigned in response to Donnie Nelson getting fired

[@blabli9228]

After the Bucks Kidd was an Assistant Coach for the Lakers and won the title with them in the Bubble. Then he went to Dallas the next season. Anyway, great research/video (as usual)!

[@CrazyxEnigma]

And the whole time he was here the common theory is Vogel was set up for failure to be scapegoated and Kidd would take over upon his firing. Vogel was given an abnormally short leash it's embarrassing how much longer Darvin Ham's is and he has no redeeming qualities he's about as bad as Boylen and Beilen were for the Bulls and Cavs respectively.

[@SmoothCriminal12]

​​@@CrazyxEnigma Kidd being anchored to the team as assistant is exactly what scared Tyrone Lue away from the job. I'm guessing the Lakers would love to have him right now.

[@CrazyxEnigma]

@@SmoothCriminal12 The shorter years and complete control the Lakers wanted to have over who became his assistants rightfully pissed Lue off. Our ownership overcorrects on any mistake they've made. I'd rather have any other coach past or present be here instead of Ham, Del Harris would be doing a better job and there's a reason he never saw a HC gig again after he was fired in 99.

[@pheo1418]

​@@CrazyxEnigmaDel Harris was fired by the Lakers so Phil Jackson could coach them, but why hasn't Del been hired since then?

[@CrazyxEnigma]

@@pheo1418 Because he wasn't that good and actively hindered Kobe's development as a player, Magic also called him an idiot right to the press when he came back to play in 96. Y'know when Kobe scored 62 in three quarters and outscored the Mavs single handedly? Harris was an assistant on their bench.

[@imc440]

Say what you will about being labeled “Coach Killer” it’s better than “Wife Beater”

[@travisarroyo6592]

Jason Kidd: coach killer Lebron: hold my beer

[@iwishiwasthomasshelby]

Lebron is an everything killer.

[@christiancoates609]

I agree, but at least after coaching LeBron, you know you're going to get another head coaching gig

[@jacobhare3093]

@@iwishiwasthomasshelby Mad

[@EonArashi]

It’s kinda funny that LeBron has that reputation given that the only Coach who was fired undeservedly (with his involvement) was Vogel, and he still had clear issues. Namely that he refused to actually change his offensive strategy at all, which is a common problem for him (one one team that was ever top 10 in Offensive Rating in his entire career). Even with Durant, Beal, and Booker, he’s barely to top ten now with the Suns, and wasn’t for most of the year. Blatt was a complete idiot, Brown was fired after LeBron was already a FA, and Paul Silas was fired by Dan Gilbert right after he bought the Cavs, because Gilbert is a racist fool. Lue outright left partway through 2019 after going winless and proving he couldn’t handle a rebuild, when LeBron was already gone. Idk, as a lifelong Cavs fan who has seen LeBron come and go for his whole career, it seems more like a post-hoc media narrative than anything of substance.

[@Los150]

Lol this is powerfully stupid 😂

[@afrolore7462]

If you from Jersey this hits different

[@jonathancarlson6127]

Would have liked to have seen him go to San Antonio and tried that with Pop.

[@TBCLINQ]

If we can think who is a coach killer ? The first thing comes to mind is Deron Williams , dude just killed Jerry Sloan's coaching career around 2011. Man has never recovered from that beef with him.

[@avecashley6480]

I always love these videos, they are so well done!

[@montyhathaway4564]

Excellent video! Love this series

[@dirtyhiggins5484]

I wish the Mavs would let him go and get a coach that can win championships with Luka, the best player in the game.

[@joefeldkamp5171]

The fact that the title is just him vs “coaches” is hilarious

[@RandomBurner]

Byron Scott in the thumbnail like “😏” lol

[@Will_kid_cortez]

Would have been fun to have him on the spurs trying to get rid of popovich 😂

[@shawncharles6077]

Full circle. This was a great video.

[@somedudefromTX]

Lifelong Mavs fan - while I'm grateful that Kidd helped Dallas win their lone championship, between his early career and his current coaching stint (running Luka into the absolute ground), he's barely coming out on the positive side

[@stevejenper]

We need to have a Pep-Mourinho beef history, long overdue

[@LpCruz11937]

Well done and edited. Good production

[@stepz000]

People forget Kidd was an assistant on the 2020 Lakers squad

[@bkjmactv0725]

Thank you for listening to me about the video idea.

[@michaelwilliams6880]

Glad to hear my guy Seth.

[@QuestionEverything562]

New Beef History: Jason Kidd vs A Jumper.

[@mongoslade277]

Top 5 all time in 3 pointers made

[@QuestionEverything562]

@@mongoslade277 First of all, he's #15 all-time, not top 5. Look at his first 8 years. Man had no jumper. He only made threes later on when completely left wide open intentionally. He couldn't even dribble into a jumper.

[@mongoslade277]

@@QuestionEverything562 I don't disagree. I remember when they called him ason bc he had no J. I think it's one of those stats that don't tell the whole story that's he's ranked top 20 in made 3's

[@mongoslade277]

@@QuestionEverything562 Btw I looked it up. Jason Kidd got as high as 3rd on the all time made 3 pointers list. I knew he was in the top 5. In the 2011 season the year he won the chip Kidd passed Dale Ellis for 3rd place

[@QuestionEverything562]

@@mongoslade277 But he is no longer there. So yeah, at one point before the three point revolution. He was in the top 3-5 in career three point makes. I still don't think of him as a good shooter overall. He was a career 35% from three. That's better than LeBron and Kobe I suppose.

[@Adamwinters]

This got hilarious at the end summarizing his head coaching career.

[@ca3630]

He beefed with Rick Carlisle too before the championship! And of course we all know what a great coach he is now lol. Just a really weird guy.

[@velvetjonez06]

I can't even sarcastically get with this... kidd is such a terrible coach... HOFers players are terrible coaches

[@rdthaprariedawg]

It seems that JKidd more so has beef with people named “Scott” and “Jim”.

[@stevenmoore3381]

I wonder how “blindsided” Larry Drew was when his son moved out of UNC in the middle of the night after Marcus Paige took his spot?

[@Abraham16ish]

Rewinder idea would be the famous A-Rod walk-off that led to Luis Castillo’s dropped ball. It’s an interesting take in that it became a turning point for the Yankees and Mets in opposite ways, and it was iconic transition point for both franchises. Plus, we are getting close to the 15th anniversary of that moment.

[@EveretteBoone]

Lol "Hit Me..."😂😂😂

[@carter-1337]

One of the coldest to ever do it. White chocolate. Old bull. Speak up! - Chronic man

[@darthdeg]

I love secret base

[@Enthusiast230]

I love you.😊

[@mangrove]

You could probably put a 2-hour Scott Skiles beef video together.

[@darnellmonk2086]

Explain to me how Luka is a coach killer when his ONLY coach resigned?

[@PhilliesNostalgia]

You guys should definitely do some collapse videos. Those are really cool to see how good teams fall apart so hard

[@TapTapCarrot]

BRUH THAT ENDING 😂😂😂😂

[@maxherzog3287]

10:57 goat sighting!! Dude is an inspiration.

[@3isthenew1]

have heard of a lot of public trade demands but this is the first time i heard of one that wants another guy traded 😂

[@Schracid]

Now know why he didn't signed with the Spurs, he realised he can't manipulate Popovich.

[@CrazyxEnigma]

I think it had more to do with him knowing it would be an all time weak move. 2nd in MVP votes to lead his team to the finals and then join the team and player that beat him for both a championship and MVP? Would've been as bad as KD to the Warriors. Edit: He is on record saying he regrets not doing it if that means anything.

[@phvntom__]

Solid content. Hope this is all original

[@naijahn13]

Damn it’s June 2024 and Jason Kidd is coaching a team in the finals😂

[@jaychow3]

Wait how is Luka a coach killer lol. He did say he didn't like how Rick treated other players. But Rick moved resigned cause all the other bullshit that was going on. Though Kidd might of had something to do with Rick resigning too lol

[@christie7105]

hey secret base, could you please do a rewind of the 2008 nfc championship game? that eagles-cardinals game was exciting

[@verteidigungsblock]

that ending was class

[@user-tz8mx4dh9l]

Kidd is a Bay Area and NBA Legend but an average coach. I think he would be a better college coach. And this is the best narrator, keep him for all the videos.

[@wesleyswain1189]

Not to mention killing his own coaching career

[@kincamell2]

On the court He is the best player Ive ever seen . He was in the 12th grade.I was 9 years young. I didn't encounter him off the court. Off the court Steve Kerr, Klay Thompson, Leon Powe and Brian Shaw was cool.

[@carl4243]

I hope this channel survives long enough to make a beef history with wemby and chet.

[@nathaniellevesque2782]

Beef history suggestions, Eric Lindross vs. Flyers Geoege Steinbrenner vs. Billy Martin Patrick Roy vs. Mario Tremblay George Karl vs. Pretty Much Everyone

[@TheGameCube64Guy]

There is a Beef History video between George Karl and Carmelo Anthony during their tenure with the Denver Nuggets

[@SmoothCriminal12]

I'm honestly not sure if Billy and George were genuinely beefing, or if it was all just marketing and publicity.

[@space_ace_1]

Coach Killer as a player and Team Killer as a coach

[@cry-on]

Carlisle resign one day after Donnie Nelson was fired. How do you guys come to the conclusion that Luka is a coach killer ?

[@CrazyxEnigma]

I'll be charitable assuming they got that headline from somewhere else and didn't make it up themselves, still ridiculous they even put it into the video just since it's funny in an ironic way Kidd could be in the same position as the coaches he beefed with were.

[@russellst.martin4255]

He was a coach killer after he got hired in Milwaukee too

[@Miller2h41]

When the origin story of Jason Kidd being a "Coach Killer" dates back to college that's something that can't be denied and made worse when family speaks up on his behalf.

[@jay5286]

I don't care as a nets fan the J kid Era was the best years for a nets fan

[@GinkgoPete]

Beef history: Jason Kidd vs Being even a little bit likeable

[@withalittlehelpfrom3]

Well well well… how the turntables…

[@PennyDreadfulllXIII]

Amazing they post this while he's on thin ice as a coach 😮

[@ShunyamNiketana]

From what I recall, Capanelli was overheard berating a player in the team room by the AD, and that was the turning point. Kidd wasn't the player in that case.

[@chrisuncleahmad]

Beef History: Sam Wyche vs Jerry Glanville

[@charlesconner9044]

The good old AFC Central

[@Amm17ar]

I always forget about Jason Kidd the player. Weird. None of this video, nor everything Ive learned about Kidd outside of basketball really surprises me lol. He kinda just seems like the type of guy to do all that stuff.

[@sricharan3218]

Luka a coach killer is streching a bit but i think that title suits giannis more

[@GavinusMaximusMaster]

Wow I had no idea how abusive Jason Kidd was that's shameful.

[@IAmTheDawn]

It is good to see that that long ago Kidd was thrown out due to domestic violence charges. There should be no room for that kind of behaviour and violence in professional sports. One and done.

[@TheAlphaMaG]

Nets and problematic point guards, name a more iconic duo I'll wait

[@Dabighomiee]

guys at Secret Base, please lower the background music volume a little bit

[@nickl4326]

Great content keep up the great work 🤌💪🙏

[@jonathanpruto861]

Over time I realized great point guards usually have the most rifts with coaches , think Rajon rando, Chris Paul , all are great but for some reason because they have the worst beefs with coach’s

[@Riles3152]

Maybe real point guards have a problem yielding control?

[@bkjmactv0725]

You should do a video about the beef between Quentin Richardson and Paul Pierce. How did that beef started?

[@crismartinez1642]

The Irony of coaching on a the team that drafted him, got his coach fired and forced a trade only to go back and deal with a new coach k!ller is very overwhelming.😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@GIMMETHELOOTNOW]

RIP to my NJ NETZ

[@Crockadillion42o]

It is funny how things come full circle. Now he is a coach who has beefed with some of his players 😂

[@MannyMensah94]

Knew it was coming.

[@raiderbro8663]

"unless we were the ninja mutant turtles (?!) there was no mutiny" 💀

[@gnvtwhp1218]

A few things I learned from the nba. 1. Shaq bought his doctorate degree. The Duality of Humor and Aggression in Leadership Styles. Ain't no way shaq ever study or read a book. Or wrote a thesis paper 😂😂😂 2. Hide your girlfriend, wife and daughter when Derrick fisher enters the room. 3. Cover your CUP while kidd is around you.

[@demirg1421]

I always had a feeling from just watching Kidd that he was deep down a bad human being.