How Brazil completely failed Marta, one of soccer's greatest players ever

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Brazil's Marta is one of the greatest ever to play soccer. She gave her home country years and years of elite play, including some jaw-dropping moments of brilliance, yet she and Brazil never won a Women's World Cup.
This episode of Untitled explores the obstacles that prevented Marta and company from hoisting the trophy. Those obstacles include critical moments on the field, like disastrous penalty kicks and one legendary United States header. The main, overarching obstacle, though, is Brazilian soccer infrastructure itself. From grassroots to pro leagues to the national team, soccer-playing girls and women in Brazil have never received the boost that built their male counterparts into great, Cup-winning sides. In fact, Brazilian women were banned from playing soccer for a huge chunk of the 20th century.
Winning it all takes talent, timing, and institutional support. Marta always had the first thing and sometimes got the second thing, but never enjoyed the third. Brazilian soccer authorities failed Marta and her teammates. This is how it went down.
Written and produced by Seth Rosenthal
Edited by Jiazhen Zhang
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@SecretBaseSBN
@SecretBaseSBN 4 жыл бұрын
This video now has a Portuguese subtitle option!
@victormedeiros3408
@victormedeiros3408 4 жыл бұрын
brabos
@medina2529
@medina2529 4 жыл бұрын
That's great! I'm a long-term enthusiast of SB Nation, but I fail to gather new Brazilian fans just for the only English videos.
@jeweetnietwieikben2050
@jeweetnietwieikben2050 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a cool ending from the eredivisie 2007 where the number 3 in coming the last round came first with one goal difference
@lucianog5430
@lucianog5430 4 жыл бұрын
I really don't know, but I think that get subs in spanish, portuguese and french (like half of the world), will improve your channel a lot. And I guess it's not so hard for you, even some subscribers could do it
@haitinatifnatal
@haitinatifnatal 9 ай бұрын
My question to you : Do you think Melchie Dumornay will surpass Marta when she gets healthy and come back to play? I honestly can see that happening . Tell me your opinion.
@lorenzodecabo3040
@lorenzodecabo3040 4 жыл бұрын
There´s no better way to describe it: "Marta never won a World Cup for Brazil , because Brazil failed Marta."
@matheuscrepaldi6850
@matheuscrepaldi6850 4 жыл бұрын
Marta never won a world cup because she wasn't capable enough to win.
@oliver_ni
@oliver_ni 4 жыл бұрын
@@matheuscrepaldi6850 As if Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo won world cups...smh
@ulycha
@ulycha 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, however failing to score a penalty kick in any final is a pretty big failure if I may
@weirdofromhalo
@weirdofromhalo 4 жыл бұрын
@@ulycha But they would still have lost 2-1.
@JulioLeonFandinho
@JulioLeonFandinho 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, football is a team game, teams of 11 players. One single player by himself can't win alone, it's phisically impossible. This is obvious but, because we are always caught in the narrative of the great players, usually forget it
@Sports21all
@Sports21all 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect example of how football associations have robbed female footballers. The fact that they didn't properly support a team with the GOAT and Brazil was still able to do so much just leaves you wondering what could have been.
@franciscotavares4142
@franciscotavares4142 4 жыл бұрын
As a native, the only thing I can say is that Brazil is great at football BESIDES our football associatoin being extremely rotten and incompetent, and the women's team got the absolutely worse side possible of it
@mrivard81
@mrivard81 4 жыл бұрын
Robbed them how? Fact of the matter is, you can't make people care... Yeah, sure, women's soccer has a niche following, but it's several orders of magnitude smaller than the men's market is. And I got news for you, the size of the market for each sport has nothing to do with women's programs being underfunded. Because if that were the case, the USWNT wouldn't have just lost their lawsuit over "equal pay". Turns out that when you collectively bargain for your salaries, you then have no case to stand on for saying "we're not paid equally". Yeah we know, the women actually get a better deal than the men, even though the money pool is substantially larger on the male side.
@franciscotavares4142
@franciscotavares4142 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrivard81 wouldn't say robbed, but sabotaged them in every step of the way
@bryce354
@bryce354 4 жыл бұрын
@Joseph Van Horn You have no idea what you're talking about. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYC0anVmjLyUgrs
@cacs2201
@cacs2201 4 жыл бұрын
@Joseph Van Horn actually they were literally robbed... There are innumerous cases of corruption in our Brazilian football orgs, quite a lot of money that was supposed to go for the woman's team were robbed
@misternogood
@misternogood 4 жыл бұрын
14:28 "Cry in the beginning so you can smile in the end" is one of the realest things i've ever heard in my life. Legitimately one of the best sports quotes i've ever heard...
@jjmah7
@jjmah7 Жыл бұрын
I was trying to figure out what that meant exactly - is she saying to do the hard work at first so you can reap the benefits later?
@edwardr.1608
@edwardr.1608 Жыл бұрын
@@jjmah7 yes.
@ruilopes6638
@ruilopes6638 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks SB nation. That was completely unexpected for me as a Brazilian. But that goes to show how undervalued those girls are around here. We end up expecting that no one cares. This video was full of real emotion as any of yours. I’m literally in tears because if there’s one team that deserved a better fate it was this generation.
@EdisonRizzato
@EdisonRizzato 4 жыл бұрын
Almost cried here too. Maybe I'm a little biased, but it was the better Untitled I saw. Great video.
@aaronhorowitz6942
@aaronhorowitz6942 4 жыл бұрын
Caralho eu arrepiei ... o video foi foda msm ...
@miamisportsculture2879
@miamisportsculture2879 4 жыл бұрын
Saw her play a small team in Boca Raton when she was with Rochester New York. She is the Pele of womens soccer in Brazil.
@jessejames9149
@jessejames9149 4 жыл бұрын
I still remember when Erica pretended to be hurt vs the US 2015 world cup, was carried off on a stretcher and then jumped off onto the field when the US was dominating. Lol 😂😂😂
@hajime2k
@hajime2k 4 жыл бұрын
@@jessejames9149 You mean in 2011, right? I remember that scene and I was angry at all the time that was wasted. Serves Brazil right that USA won.
@tielmaster7879
@tielmaster7879 4 жыл бұрын
I've been saying for years. If other nations invested in women's soccer the USWNT would not be as dominant. They'd still be top tier but not the landslide victories they have consistently.
@TheGeorgeD13
@TheGeorgeD13 4 жыл бұрын
Same with Men's soccer honestly. If the USA invested in Men's soccer, we'd be pretty damn good and top tier and maybe eve win a World Cup. As it is, we're struggling to even make the damn thing.
@tielmaster7879
@tielmaster7879 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGeorgeD13 I think one of the major problems with the men's team is lack of competition in North America and thinking they're too good. As well as the pay to play system where young athletes just go to another sport.
@ryerock32
@ryerock32 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGeorgeD13 In the case of men's soccer it's less investment and more just getting rid of incompetence and stubborness. There is a format that works for the majority of countries that absolutely churn out talent but instead we insist on trying to make it like other sports and wonder why we're not doing better than countries who have been honing this method for damn near a hundred years.
@DarklordZagarna
@DarklordZagarna 4 жыл бұрын
The big gap between the USWNT and other teams at this point is depth; their second 23 would be easily top 10 in the world, and you could easily see how much better their bench was than Holland's in the last world cup final. When-- and, I guess, if-- other countries professionalize their women's soccer programs, that won't last.
@TheGeorgeD13
@TheGeorgeD13 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryerock32 That's exactly the same as investment. Or at least what I meant when I said investment.
@Unova39
@Unova39 4 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand how any government with national pride could actively hinder women's sports like this, it's disgusting.
@lorenzodecabo3040
@lorenzodecabo3040 4 жыл бұрын
I´m from Argentina, and we have the same problems here. A country with the most passion for Soccer, but in the men´s side. I found out about the 11-0 defeat to Germany in 2007 thanks to this video. It's not only a government, is also the people who lives with an idea that "women´s football sucks".
@OhJustSomeRandomGuy
@OhJustSomeRandomGuy 4 жыл бұрын
I think when you see the dude who did it you realize that a man who dresses with his belt buckle at his nipples has no real idea of what pride should look like. @1:55
@DarklordZagarna
@DarklordZagarna 4 жыл бұрын
@@lorenzodecabo3040 Yeah, as badly as Brazil has treated their women's team, Argentina has somehow managed to do even worse-- they all but disbanded it in 2016. They did manage to qualify for the 2019 world cup and put up a brave showing there, but the team, outside of one or two players, lacked quality (essentially because they lacked adequate training and funding). These issues are not hard to solve. They just require resources (and not even that many resources, at that-- we're talking probably single-digit millions of dollars to adequately fund a professional women's national team, which is a drop in the bucket compared to most men's sports team budgets). Sometimes it's really that simple.
@lorenzodecabo3040
@lorenzodecabo3040 4 жыл бұрын
@@DarklordZagarna yeah, I agreed. At least I'm happy that a nacional team with literally no support from his confederation, make it to the finals , when his male part end up in the semis, only to lose 7-1.
@MrPandaGlobal
@MrPandaGlobal 4 жыл бұрын
neither do we, my friend.
@alexsander2112
@alexsander2112 4 жыл бұрын
This video just made me cry. Thanks very much, SB Nation, for this amazing content. How I wish Brazilian media gave Marta as much credit as you just did.
@weregretohio7728
@weregretohio7728 4 жыл бұрын
And throwing up again because people like Trump and Bolsanaro not only exist, but are given power over others.
@DarklordZagarna
@DarklordZagarna 4 жыл бұрын
She's arguably one of the ten best female athletes of all time, although it's always hard to make cross-sport comparisons (and we'll never know how good someone like Florence Griffith Joyner would have been if the whole of athletics at the time hadn't been riddled with drug cheats-- she was cheating, but so was everyone else). I'm trying to think of who I'd put in front of her... probably Katie Ledecky and Lindsey Vonn, Krisztina Egerszegi, Larisa Latynina, Valentina Vezzali, maybe Lisa Leslie or Diana Taurasi... that's about it. Maybe Mary T. Meagher and Janet Evans if you don't mind overrepresenting the swimmers. An interesting exercise, but ultimately a frustrating one since so many great women athletes have cut short their careers due to lack of support. At any rate, it's ridiculously stupid that such a generational talent was left to toil in obscurity for so long.
@mrsb50
@mrsb50 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Thomas I’d throw Simone Biles into the mix since gymnastics is on the table, probably above Latynina even though her accomplishments and longevity were incredible
@DarklordZagarna
@DarklordZagarna 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrsb50 That's fair. No question she'd be on the list if she wins a bunch of medals in Tokyo. In Olympic sports I tend to value repeating a lot more than just dominating one Games. But Biles has done so much work at Worlds, etc that she deserves to be on there even if she gets hurt or whatever and doesn't dominate a second Olympics. Speaking of repeat champions, you could make an argument for Kaori Icho too-- I believe she's the only four-time back to back champion in the same event ever on the women's side, although I might be misremembering that. As impressive as that is, though, my sense is that women's wrestling in its early days was not as competitive as the other sports I mentioned-- the US didn't even start taking it seriously until the mid-2010s.
@mrsb50
@mrsb50 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Thomas totally, if you’re going by Olympic medals then I get it. Given that Biles became age eligible the year after 2012 and has to wait at least a year longer for what would’ve been 2020, it’s really only bad timing that’s keeping her medal count low (by her standards). She got second in an early 2013 competition but hasn’t lost since then, neither domestically nor internationally. I can’t stress how much better she is than the rest of the field, and she’s only continued to improve year after year. (It sounds like you know all of this already but I thought it was worth repeating for anyone who’s unfamiliar with her dominance.) I don’t know anything about women’s wrestling, in comparison, so I’ll need to read up on Kaori Icho!
@kicking222
@kicking222 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! When you initially introduced the series, my very first thought was Marta. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your videos on women's sports, even if they don't get as many views. A lot of people are ignorant when it comes to amazing female athletes- if not actively hindering them, as shown here- and the best way to change that is to keep spotlighting them.
@toritwopointoh
@toritwopointoh 4 жыл бұрын
i just wanted to echo this. these series on women's sports are so fantastic. they talk about women's sports seriously and discuss it with the prestige that is normally only reserved for men. its incredibly refreshing and enjoyable to watch, especially because these stories haven't been told as well before
@sebastianbaumgartner827
@sebastianbaumgartner827 4 жыл бұрын
There are legends like charles barkley allen iverson randy moss karl malone messi ronaldo and many more and the first one you thought about was some girl who plays soccer on the level of a 16 year old boy?
@Sukuun
@Sukuun 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianbaumgartner827 is it fun, being a psychopath?
@goranmilic442
@goranmilic442 2 жыл бұрын
@@toritwopointoh It's great that people discuss women's sports just as seriously as men's, but fact still remains - the only reason why Marta is famous around the world is because she's called Marta and that's easy to remember. There are far better players than her, like Miedema, but that's not a name easy to remember. Everything is in the name.
@MannyBiggz
@MannyBiggz 4 жыл бұрын
Well this was probably the most depressing entry in this series so far.
@trentonayershandsoffire3620
@trentonayershandsoffire3620 3 жыл бұрын
By far
@jorelsomo9950
@jorelsomo9950 4 жыл бұрын
"Cry in the beginning so that you can smile in the end" Best quote ever
@tottoroz
@tottoroz 4 жыл бұрын
What an AMAZING video! As a brazilian it's such a shame to have these awesome players being so mistreated. You have summarized so well I feel this video should also have a portuguese audio, because we are the ones mostly in need to learn about these stories. All in all, you did amazing! ❤
@allie_veto
@allie_veto 4 жыл бұрын
I cried when I first saw her post-game speech. I encourage anyone to watch the whole speech, its amazing. If anyone lives near the Orlando area, go watch Marta play at an Orlando Pride game! (whenever we're allowed to again)
@Celicagame13
@Celicagame13 4 жыл бұрын
Alana O. I do and I have, she doesn’t have it any more
@allie_veto
@allie_veto 4 жыл бұрын
@@Celicagame13 I have to disagree with you. I think its unfortunate that the team has been at the bottom of the standings lately, but it is still a joy to watch her play. I've seen her play for Brazil several times, and I would encourage anyone to see her play for the national team, if they get the opportunity.
@burgandyngoldforlife8199
@burgandyngoldforlife8199 4 жыл бұрын
@@allie_veto I watch every game with her on the pitch ... Only here in America their coach is dumb enough and some players dumb enough not to play through her. Her field knowledge and ability to pass is underrated. Only here in the USA does a Ali Kreger take a shot at goal while Marta is in the box. Only here do you pass 6x times and she not receive a touch. Only here in America can someone say she hasn't got it while Alex Morgan sucks the life out the air. Only here in America can you say 6x women's Ballon d'Or hasn't got it while another person who didn't score a single goal nor assist all year for there club gets placed on best 11... NWSL shame on you for not promoting the sport. Shame on all soccer nations not valuing 60% of the worlds population enough to fund it.
@C-Lightning
@C-Lightning 4 жыл бұрын
I wish. Too bad I do not live in Orlando and that, the league has been canceled till further notice
@goranmilic442
@goranmilic442 2 жыл бұрын
he only reason why Marta is famous around the world is because she's called Marta and that's easy to remember. There are far better players than her, like Miedema, but that's not a name easy to remember. Everything is in the name.
@RaisinxBrand
@RaisinxBrand 4 жыл бұрын
That 2011 US vs Brazil game is still one of the best games I’ve ever watched tbh
@DarklordZagarna
@DarklordZagarna 4 жыл бұрын
The 2008 Olympic gold medal final was another amazing game-- incredibly tense back-and-forth, the highest stakes possible outside of a World Cup final, and eventually won in extra time by Carli Lloyd (who else?). At the time, I was rooting for the US team, of course, but in retrospect you wish Brazil could have broken through to claim at least one major championship. The players deserved it, even if their awful federation and government did not.
@giadap9501
@giadap9501 4 жыл бұрын
The ref was crappy though
@mydogsnameislucy768
@mydogsnameislucy768 4 жыл бұрын
The women's games can often be more fun to watch because they rely more on skill than speed and power making the games look a lot more fluid. 👌
@EverythingSports15
@EverythingSports15 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@samcipparrone5389
@samcipparrone5389 4 жыл бұрын
Once Messi retires you gotta do a World Cup one on him
@user-yt9ks9qk8l
@user-yt9ks9qk8l 4 жыл бұрын
Theres still 2022...
@gabegamer3663
@gabegamer3663 4 жыл бұрын
Jashan Abraham lol good one bro 😂
@CesarSanchez-mw3jg
@CesarSanchez-mw3jg 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-yt9ks9qk8l Argentina will not be great in 2022.
@tylerreynolds4781
@tylerreynolds4781 4 жыл бұрын
And the Copa America if he doesn't win
@felixlueggerto
@felixlueggerto 4 жыл бұрын
*German National Anthem* starts playing
@brandonblanco8379
@brandonblanco8379 4 жыл бұрын
Do one with Gianlugi Buffon not winning a champions league.
@sandoc9
@sandoc9 4 жыл бұрын
Brandon Blanco he’s still playing so we have to wait until he retires
@torachan23
@torachan23 4 жыл бұрын
Champions League isn’t as singular and huge as a World Cup
@BoxOfOranges84
@BoxOfOranges84 4 жыл бұрын
@@torachan23 not winning a CL is probably more comparable to the other "Untitled" in other sports since it's annual. It's normal for great players to never win a WC because you only get 2/3 good chances if you're lucky
@tommasoali7617
@tommasoali7617 4 жыл бұрын
Zlatan as weel
@gianniverschueren870
@gianniverschueren870 4 жыл бұрын
@@sandoc9 Marta is still playing as well
@leonardoterra1900
@leonardoterra1900 4 жыл бұрын
Its awesome to see a foreigner youtube channel praising one of the best athletes my country has ever seen, but it saddens me to see the complete disdain of the goverment to seek to improve the conditions for the women soccer, thank you for all of you guys on SB Nation, to put light and celebrate one of our greatest athletes, as a brazillian native it gives me joy to see this. Thank you and excuse my poor english rs
@mrsb50
@mrsb50 4 жыл бұрын
leonardo terra your English isn’t poor at all-it’s great! ❤️
@drmorcoch9338
@drmorcoch9338 4 жыл бұрын
i am person who instinctively doesn't easily believe in anything i watch or hear and sometimes even when i've seen it with my own eyes. when the narrator calls someone misogynist... well, that's an easy red flag to me!
@ADAJ3KINGANGEL
@ADAJ3KINGANGEL 4 жыл бұрын
Marta’s interview after bowing out was incredible!
@moviegal6000
@moviegal6000 4 жыл бұрын
Omg it was incredible. I was bawling then and I bawled now. A world class player putting out the call to young female athletes everywhere.
@CheapAbyss
@CheapAbyss 4 жыл бұрын
I love how willing SB Nation is to dive in and give the spotlight to women's sports. There are so many stories that would fit this series (and all the others tbh) on the women's side as well, outside the "major" sports in America. There's still so much content to explore.
@tarihanchaveiromartins7233
@tarihanchaveiromartins7233 4 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what happened. Here in Brasil we all watch WWC with passion and suport but the federation always was a problem. Marta is a godess and an idol but with no support it cant be done!
@pennavedc
@pennavedc 4 жыл бұрын
My absolute favorite episode EVER. Please submit this for any and all award consideration. It made me tear up. And I bought a Marta brasil jersey.
@s4nnybunny04
@s4nnybunny04 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. This is the best Untitled so far. Sad and moving. Well done SB Nation.
@vladimpaler3498
@vladimpaler3498 Жыл бұрын
FIFA should have a rule that if a country fails to pay the promised amount to its women's team the men's team is barred from any international competition. Also, if the investment in the women's team is less than 72% of the men's team the men's team is barred. Then see what happens.
@emersongalli5184
@emersongalli5184 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, I was just watching Untitled of Allen Iverson minutes ago, this channel is simply amazing. And It is true that Brazil failed Marta and the girls big time, for you guys to have an idea of how Brazilian Soccer Federation had a complete disregard for the girls. Only in 2018 they established a championship for female Brazilian teams. Men's soccer receive too much to embarrass the country like in 2014 against Germany. The girls suffered years even before Bolsonaro came in. Men don't support women when It comes to sports here, even when FIFA 18 brought female players to the game, lots of men here complained and made awful jokes about women's soccer. You guys said It best, "Brazil failed Marta." Not only Marta, but Brazil failed every female player. Every companies related to soccer snubbed the girls for decades, they are only acknowledging them now. Congratulations for this amazing video.
@doctorpepper3343
@doctorpepper3343 4 жыл бұрын
What does Bolsonaro have to do with this topic? The girls "suffered" while the corrupt communists know as the PT were in power. Lula and Dilma were in control during the entire time period discussed in this video. Why didn't Lula invest more money in women's soccer? He is surely a misogynist...
@emersongalli5184
@emersongalli5184 4 жыл бұрын
@@doctorpepper3343 I agree with you, that's what I was saying, this disregard for women's soccer goes a long way before Bolsonaro came to power. When PT had power women's soccer almost didn't exist.
@abdoulayecamara8077
@abdoulayecamara8077 4 жыл бұрын
“Cry in the beginning so you can smile in the end” powerful stuff for real
@kentgarcia5656
@kentgarcia5656 Жыл бұрын
Sad that they failed her, yet again. Poor Marta.
@komiteunofficialaccount9224
@komiteunofficialaccount9224 Жыл бұрын
One last time.
@Arthutstut641
@Arthutstut641 4 жыл бұрын
Vargas: Gives women right to vote. Takes away their right of having fun. Welcome to my stupid country.
@raf42
@raf42 4 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing piece, one of the best "serious" ones your channel has ever put out. Please make more like this!
@billymcdonnell11
@billymcdonnell11 4 жыл бұрын
14:17. I’ll show this to my son when he comes of age... if I have a daughter even more fitting... this is the definition of greatness. Through all that women’s team went through it’s pretty amazing how they even managed to get a decent squad together honestly.
@samuelvieira1162
@samuelvieira1162 4 жыл бұрын
As a brazilian, that video teared my heart apart. But I know that the legend of Marta will forever live on!!! Thanks, SB Nation! Obrigado, Rainha!!!
@joaopedroramos4015
@joaopedroramos4015 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. As a brazilian, even here, we don't know all the complications that woman's soccer suffer, because the media wants to talk about men's soccer and other sports that also men play in it.
@gdionwood
@gdionwood Жыл бұрын
What an Amazing Icon! My favourite Brazilian player after Pele and tied with Cafu! Her dedication to a corrupt country that failed her over and over brings tears to my eyes! Imagine what she would've accomplished had she made the decision to get Swedish citizenship, and play for a country where true sportsmaship flourished!
@Victormpedott
@Victormpedott 4 жыл бұрын
Finally Marta having the credit she deserves. It's really common for men in Brazil to joke about women's football saying that it's slow and boring, but they never realize that the men's national team in our country have had much MUUUUUUUUUUCH more incentive and investment in the sport to be even more disappointing than the women's national team.
@djspflytnt
@djspflytnt 4 жыл бұрын
We Americans have to realize how important Title IX was in creating our global domination in many womens' sports. Women just need to be given an equal chance.
@chekhov4215
@chekhov4215 4 жыл бұрын
That's the reason why we've won twice the amount of women's world cup titles as any other country.
@rjhaney2614
@rjhaney2614 4 жыл бұрын
Love this one. I especially liked how it felt like there were two stories going. Marta vs. the world and Marta vs. Brazil. Great job on this one guys. Can we get the Sedins next?
@filipe0305
@filipe0305 4 жыл бұрын
Marta was the biggest star of a great generations of brazilian female footballers that had their well deserved recognition despite what the country offered her. Brazilian federation is guilty of everything you said in the video but their harm to brazilian football goes even deeper and hits brazilian male squad (7x1 could have been avoided if they didn’t hire a washed out coach in felipão, for example) and brazilian teams (some bigger teams are taking a stand now against them). The football teams can survive even when playing terrible football for brazilian standards. The male squad lost a lot of support from people and is struggling to have this interest back. But for the female squad, this can be fatal. We don’t seem to have another good generation coming due to the lack support and, even though players like marta took a brave stand and made some changes (like some big football clubs having now female teams), unfortunately the brazilian football federation just doesn’t care enough. They are destroying brazilian football little by little (lots of recent federation’s former presidents are in jail and banished from football forever). Thank you for this video as it put some light on the dark side of brazilian football. These women are heroes and inspiration for brazilian people for fighting against adversities and speaking up against injustices. Marta is our biggest football hero in this century.
@A2TRaNQuiLiiTy
@A2TRaNQuiLiiTy 4 жыл бұрын
Im Half Brazilian. Shes the greatest female player of all time individually. U.S has the best collective talent, but the best individual talent and "Joga Bonito" skill is def Marta. Even against the duels against the U.S Marta was the best player on the field, and outisde Christiane, she really had no collective help. U.S is not as talented or flashy but the fundamental playing style of the U.S which is based on team exectution from multiple players and defense is why the U.S is the greatest team in Womens soccer of all time. We came close so many times to beating them, so the ability was there but not enough team effort, even one exhibition game the U.S came back from like 3 goals down, So I question even heart from Brazil. But not Marta. After the 2011 World Cup where she balled out, and Neymar was still 19, I remember the men struggling either in a tournmanet or exhibition and the crowd starting chanting for Marta. She has the peoples support, but the government support is still backwards. They think they in Saudi Arabia. Bless Marta. Goat.
@oalbuquerque2899
@oalbuquerque2899 3 жыл бұрын
I love that internationally they call Getúlio Vargas a dictator (as he was) and in Brazil he is seen almost as a hero.
@leonardobahia2151
@leonardobahia2151 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t expect a vídeo talking about Marta and Brazil to be honest.However,you showed the truth about how bad CBF handles women’s football,wasting Marta’s awesome talent.Oh,and thanks a lot by the description of Bolsonaro, a horrible human being
@InterloperBob
@InterloperBob 4 жыл бұрын
This is so much more tragic than the other videos in the series. She did everything right and spent the prime of her life to master the sport, and she came up short for no fault of her own.
@mrsb50
@mrsb50 4 жыл бұрын
Will Keve she may have come up short in not winning a World Cup, but her legacy is already much more significant than that. I think her story will ultimately be one of empowerment, not tragedy ❤️
@JordanDalmedo
@JordanDalmedo 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like this 200 more times if I could. Love this type of content with women's soccer as the subject.
@joelgonzalez2695
@joelgonzalez2695 4 жыл бұрын
This was the best of the series so far. Congrats.
@EstebanUNSC
@EstebanUNSC Жыл бұрын
Sad for Marta but her class today to congratulate Jamaica shows how she moved the sport. A GOAT in my book
@alizah8042
@alizah8042 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the video. When I watched the 2019 World Cup I was ashamed to realize I had never even heard of Marta before her last tournament, but it was amazing to watch her play. Thank you!
@ryerock32
@ryerock32 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie I cried a little when I heard her speech
@mydogsnameislucy768
@mydogsnameislucy768 4 жыл бұрын
Same. Very powerful.a
@komiteunofficialaccount9224
@komiteunofficialaccount9224 Жыл бұрын
They really failed Marta, one last time.
@guycalledjoe
@guycalledjoe 4 жыл бұрын
I've really loved how of late the channel has covered more women's sports! It's fantastic and they (particularly this and Candace Parker's dunk video) provide great factual insight to how across countries stereotypes and misogynistic views have damaged women's sports and it's perception. Great job and keep 'em coming.
@chekhov4215
@chekhov4215 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's great that they don't forget.
@superfluouslyme
@superfluouslyme 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching her speech a few years ago and crying along with her. Thank you, Secret Base, for this amazing video on a truly special player.
@andyalexisvasquez4082
@andyalexisvasquez4082 Жыл бұрын
Watching this after brazil was eliminated in the group stages 😢
@TheJanvicgwaps
@TheJanvicgwaps 4 жыл бұрын
"Cry in the beginning so you can smile in the end" 😭
@loveRoarke
@loveRoarke 3 жыл бұрын
Marta is amazing, it’s such a shame she has not received the support she deserves!
@weregretohio7728
@weregretohio7728 4 жыл бұрын
7-1 Tney should have invested in the women's team.
@BOS_C.O.
@BOS_C.O. 4 жыл бұрын
Facts while we're at it might as well do the same for the US men's for losing to Trinidad
@zaxx29
@zaxx29 4 жыл бұрын
@@BOS_C.O. I think for the US it's a culture issue. Most people who are younger don't play soccer unless it's organized by their school or they join a league. Most aren't just playing for fun like they are with basketball and football.
@BOS_C.O.
@BOS_C.O. 4 жыл бұрын
@@zaxx29 That and from what I've read the way the whole system was built just makes it difficult for kids to pursue a pro career.
@KazeShikamaru
@KazeShikamaru 4 жыл бұрын
@@BOS_C.O. Yeah it is annoying.
@KazeShikamaru
@KazeShikamaru 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe a little investment would be nice after that 7-1 beatdown.
@justinchetham-strode5234
@justinchetham-strode5234 9 ай бұрын
Marta is the only female football mega star to date. Although the women's game has improved immensely over the past couple of decades, and players and teams have improved out of sight, there have been no other players with the magic that she has. She is comparable with the Peles, Maradonas, and Cruyffs of the men's game, and stands head and shoulders above all others. It would have been wonderful to crown her career with a World title, but sadly she joins the ranks of those who missed out.
@MrSdasf
@MrSdasf 3 жыл бұрын
i cried watching this. thanks from brazil, this legend deserves recognition.
@kristenmork4316
@kristenmork4316 4 жыл бұрын
I was not expecting such a direct answer to the question posed. I had expected discussion of something soccer-specific: formations or the like. I knew that the real answer was misogyny, and I was overjoyed to see you state so without qualification. Thank you!
@lucasraphaeliannogueira2589
@lucasraphaeliannogueira2589 4 жыл бұрын
the photo of the team after the 2007 final have a poster and the say :"brazil we need suport"
@Fantusta
@Fantusta 4 жыл бұрын
This was one of the best and most powerful episodes of any SBNation yet, and I don't even care about soccer
@torobeb
@torobeb 2 жыл бұрын
man, it says a lot about this situation that I had to, as a brazilian, watch a foreign video in another language to come to know just how much those girls and women had to endure, it really saddens me to think that it all might just keep stagnated in this situation
@G-Man78
@G-Man78 8 ай бұрын
That speech for the camera at the end. Damn, i felt that 😢
@muhammadakmalbasyhaazis3294
@muhammadakmalbasyhaazis3294 4 жыл бұрын
video ideas "Steven Gerrard never won a Premier League. Here's what left him empty-handed." "Lionel Messi never won a World Cup. Here's what left him empty-handed." "Gianluigi Buffon never won a Champiuons League. Here's what left him empty-handed." "Beef History: Arsenal vs Tottenham" "Rewinder: Lucas Moura's second half hattrick vs Ajax"
@Kaustic26
@Kaustic26 4 жыл бұрын
Watching Lucas finish that last one and seeing the emotion on pochettino’s face still gives me shivers
@bernardopimenta5478
@bernardopimenta5478 4 жыл бұрын
You guys hit jackpot with the women's football analysis in Brazil, well done! I just wanted to add that it's not only female football tha suffers from that, although the disparity between men's and women's footbal is the most egrigeous one. All sports suffer form underfinancing because men's football receives so much attention, as the footbal country all other sports are largely left aside. With opportunities for government funding and sponsorshis for other sports depending largely on independent success storys, such as Marta's and the women's team on her hayday, to become famous and then inject money that stops as soon as the sucess stops. All in all great video as usual! Cheers from a brazilian fan!
@DarklordZagarna
@DarklordZagarna 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't quite go that far. Brazil's great in volleyball, too. Also, Magic: the Gathering, if you want to count that as a sport... lol. (You are, however, generally correct that Brazil hasn't punched up to its weight due to myopic over-focus on men's soccer.)
@duffman18
@duffman18 Жыл бұрын
​@@DarklordZagarna Brazil also dominates in motorsports, and athletes like Ayrton Senna are comparable to Brazilian football players in how beloved they are. But that's such a difficult thing to get into because you have to be wealthy to get anywhere in motorsports, and Brazil has such awful wealth disparity that it's always gonna be a struggle for most, even there. But yeah, motorsports are 2nd only to football, in Brazil, it seems.
@marxrubronegro9677
@marxrubronegro9677 3 жыл бұрын
As a brazilian I feel very confortable to agree with every single word said here. The only thing I should point out is that there's a pervasive view here that great players come from adversity. Well, It's true that we created great talents both from men and women football that grew up kicking rocks in the streets, but once this talent is created and discovered, the men are payed living wages. The women still need to keep their day job while playing.
@komiteunofficialaccount9224
@komiteunofficialaccount9224 Ай бұрын
I said they failed Marta one last time. Can't believe Brazil had one more in them.
@adriancolangelo3225
@adriancolangelo3225 4 жыл бұрын
Untitled video of Henrik and Daniel Sedin
@el4121
@el4121 3 жыл бұрын
great video!! and thank you again for covering women’s sports. a lot of sports channels completely ignore them and it really does mean a lot to have them represented :))
@People_of_the_Mouse
@People_of_the_Mouse Жыл бұрын
The goat has finally retired. No more will she abuse and terrorize players across the universe. We are lucky to have watched her.
@hiranom20
@hiranom20 10 ай бұрын
Brazil not winning the 2007 WWcup is still one of the game's great tragedies...
@a_bb_a6356
@a_bb_a6356 4 жыл бұрын
This’ll be Messi in a few years. Immensely talented player on a great team, but never won anything of note with the national team
@aroobism
@aroobism 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair he still has one more chance
@natirasohumana
@natirasohumana 4 жыл бұрын
But not for the same reason. For negligence, lack of support.
@sicilianjoe
@sicilianjoe 4 жыл бұрын
#GonzaloHiguaín
@vimaln6613
@vimaln6613 4 жыл бұрын
The Argentina squad is way too top heavy to win international titles. Their squad on paper reminds me of the analogy, "A Ferrari's Engine in a City car". Brilliant Offence but lackluster defense. Their best defender is Otamendi For crying out loud.
@aroobism
@aroobism 4 жыл бұрын
LaV72 they did have a excellent defensive coach in 14 which is why they won all there games by one goal or fewer and honestly don’t just look at 18 and 14 look at the years before that those teams were loaded that 06 squad needs more attention in the messi era they had 3 really good chances on paper and failed
@seriomarkj
@seriomarkj 4 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the men brazil team play and struggle at some point in time and the croud was chanting "we want marta" but she still didn't get the support she deserved...and hardly the respect either
@Bulbaczar
@Bulbaczar 4 жыл бұрын
Really great ep. Marta's a legend.
@maryjennings4913
@maryjennings4913 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Martin, from NASCAR would be an interesting selection for this series.
@ahogg5960
@ahogg5960 2 жыл бұрын
You should watch the excellent series by KZbinr slapshoes on this exact topic called The Mark Martin Apologetics Tour
@zanne_imonluamen
@zanne_imonluamen 3 ай бұрын
That 2011 usa Vs brazil game is one of the best in women's world cup history. I would love to see a breakdown of that game from you guys🤞🏾
@BadutPesta
@BadutPesta 4 жыл бұрын
Talent wins you individual awards. Teamwork wins you championship.
@eastmidwest11700
@eastmidwest11700 4 жыл бұрын
Make a whole docu series about Marta. This is inspiring.
@FingeringThings
@FingeringThings 4 жыл бұрын
Do one on Johan Cruyff or Arjen Robben, the dutch can't catch a break
@sportyfc1022
@sportyfc1022 4 жыл бұрын
Fingering Things ✔️ nor the Spanish, they just suck when they have a chance to win And as an American myself, I feel their pain
@aroobism
@aroobism 4 жыл бұрын
I mean johan only participated in one World Cup
@billymcdonnell11
@billymcdonnell11 4 жыл бұрын
Sporty FC 2008. 2010. 2012. 2013. And that’s just the recent ones.... they had won before once.... honestly what are you on? Give us some...
@aroobism
@aroobism 4 жыл бұрын
John Dogan wait what?
@sportyfc1022
@sportyfc1022 4 жыл бұрын
John Dogan The Spanish have a tendency to be upset or play poorly when it really matters or lose in heartbreakers But with that said, the US don’t make it (they lost to Trinidad and Tobago when trying to qualify) I respect the Spanish, but I think they should probably win a title soon with what they have in the roster I’m not Spanish, but this is just my opinion (I don’t mind If you roast the US, I think they suck)
@ik1768
@ik1768 2 жыл бұрын
all those people who treat women's soccer as a joke should see this. That speech at the end had me in tears...
@RollOnToVictory
@RollOnToVictory 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know what it is.... but there's something so condescending and annoying about the narrator guy's voice.
@muhammadfarhan581
@muhammadfarhan581 4 жыл бұрын
Carla is way worse than this guy
@raf42
@raf42 4 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to get to see Marta play in person, vs South Korea in the 2015 World Cup. She's so dominant, and was a joy to watch. It's tragic just how much she got screwed over by Brazil (not to mention all her teammates who got just as screwed, while making far, FAR less income).
@redsox0213
@redsox0213 Жыл бұрын
This is sad. I remember watching Marta just destroy folks. Her not winning one to me is worse than if Messi or Ronaldo don't. Formiga 7 world Cups!!! Wtf!
@silverblaze713
@silverblaze713 4 жыл бұрын
excellent video, thanks for making it guys. Marta is a freaking legend!
@Ramboost007
@Ramboost007 4 жыл бұрын
1:57 that is the highest I've ever seen a grandpa belt
@lhdesouza3614
@lhdesouza3614 4 жыл бұрын
As a Brazillian, I agree with most of this video. Trough many presidents, most of them Left-Winged, we did not sponsor many sports, not only women soccer. However, Bolsonaro didn't affect Brazil's women team simply because it's female, as it seems since you called him "mysoginistic". All Brazillian sports were affected because we have more serious economic problems, we can't afford sponsor a lot of sports, not only Women's Soccer. You guys do a great work and I really like "Untitled", but this time, you were political, in first place.
@Sports21all
@Sports21all 4 жыл бұрын
🐐
@enmorot
@enmorot 4 жыл бұрын
This video alone was worth the subscription. Well done SB nation, well done indeed!
@mara10na4ever9
@mara10na4ever9 4 жыл бұрын
Love the football/soccer content we need some more beef history for the beautiful game
@OhJustSomeRandomGuy
@OhJustSomeRandomGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Footbeefs.
@PNTTVReacts
@PNTTVReacts 4 жыл бұрын
This was done so well thank you! Your last words could not be truer!
@realroll4550
@realroll4550 4 жыл бұрын
"cry at the beginning to smile at the end" powerful
@JulioJunior1974
@JulioJunior1974 8 ай бұрын
As we say here, Marta is on the same shelf of Messi and CR7 , Marta GOAT
@DuceIRae
@DuceIRae 4 жыл бұрын
Damn it.. how does a sports video about womens soccer make me cry.. i dont even like soccer.. she deserved far more.
@randalls9822
@randalls9822 4 жыл бұрын
Got a chance to meet with several of the 2008 USWNT players while working at a hotel near Chicago. When I asked about who was the toughest player they had to face, all the women said that Marta was by far and away the toughest player in the world because she could score with any boot and run forever.
@estevaogiordani8837
@estevaogiordani8837 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, great video!
@LucasAndradeHD
@LucasAndradeHD 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this! I'm from Brazil and this is pretty great!
@danillospindola696
@danillospindola696 4 жыл бұрын
I'm crying with this video
@kuroazrem5376
@kuroazrem5376 4 жыл бұрын
Firts, it's not soccer, it's FOOTBALL. Second, the same question should be targeted at Messi, who have never won a title with Argentina despite being "the best".
@TheBeerPops
@TheBeerPops 4 жыл бұрын
The answer is easy: USWNT absolute domination of international football Yes, other national teams are pretty good but if the USWNT had the dominance of the Men's team, Marta would most likely have several World Cups
@fisher2536
@fisher2536 4 жыл бұрын
"dominance of the men's team"
@brianmiller1077
@brianmiller1077 4 жыл бұрын
That was my initial thought on seeing the title, but as the last line says - "Brazil failed Marta"
@TheBeerPops
@TheBeerPops 4 жыл бұрын
@@fisher2536 that's the joke...
@moviegal6000
@moviegal6000 4 жыл бұрын
Look I am an American and from Michelle Akers to Mia Hamm to Abby Wambach to Megan Rapinoe, the USWNT has had some of the greatest soccer players to ever play the game. That being said, Marta is still the greatest soccer player to ever play the women's game. I love when the USWNT wins but it is still heartbreak when Brazil loses.
@ryandonovan5205
@ryandonovan5205 Жыл бұрын
You figure some of the famous Brazilian soccer playing men would step in and maybe help them out somehow
@chijiokenwaogbe2694
@chijiokenwaogbe2694 4 жыл бұрын
thanks mate. I've been following her career. she's a living example of "you can't survive on talent alone." I'm very proud of what she and her teammates were still able to achieve despite the lack of support
@comeonoverandshootit
@comeonoverandshootit 4 жыл бұрын
man, this is the saddest episode of untitled yet 8:19 that sounds painfully familiar
@BrokeredHeart
@BrokeredHeart 4 жыл бұрын
You could do the same video for Christine Sinclair - she holds the highest record for goals scored over a 20 year career (of either women or men players), has multiple women's collegiate championship titles to her name, was the lead scorer for the 2012 Summer Olympics, and was awarded the Golden Boot for the 2002 Women's World Cup. She's still playing, and there's obviously not a zero percent chance of her competing for a World Cup title, or another medal at the Olympics (2 bronzes), but she's in the twilight of her career, and while the rest of the team is up-and-coming around her, they missed their shot to get gold at the Olympics, and lost on home turf when Canada hosted the 2015 Women's World Cup, which would have been their best shot at an international title with her as the team captain. I got to see her and Marta play in a "friendly" match in the lead up to the 2015 World Cup, and while their minutes were limited, damn if they weren't effective. Marta is an intimidating woman despite her short stature, and she commands the field when she plays. It was a great afternoon, and I'm glad I got the chance to witness those two titans clash, even if the results of that match didn't mean anything. Although, when the final goal was scored by Canada with just seconds left in added time, the stadium exploded like we'd just won the whole damn tournament. It was an intense 90+3 minutes, and we were all loaded up on beer and adrenaline. I won't forget it.
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