NBA jump balls can go very wrong because the rules kind of forgot about them

It's pretty weird that some pro basketball league still use a jump ball to solve tie-up situations. We're really gonna put that much trust in the athletic ability of referees? Tossing a jump ball isn't as easy as it looks! What if the ref throws the ball too soon or too far to one side?
Some basketball leagues have solved the above problem with cop-out procedures like the possession arrow, but we'd like to suggest some alternative options. What about a fan vote? No? Okay, how about a foot race for possession? Still no? Well, you can't possibly say no to SKY BALL.
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[@SecretBaseSBN]

Hello you, yes you! How would you fix jump balls? We all know fan vote is the correct answer, but aside from that how would you go about it? Lots of love and see you soon

[@grewdordon]

We should have an XFL style tackle for one basketball between the two players. Concussions encouraged.

[@lukes3203]

I’m voting for Rock Paper Scissors

[@KawhiLowry]

SKY BALL!

[@jacobtowe4172]

Possession arrow

[@EnjoySackLunch]

Babylon 5 trivia. 10 rounds. Winner gets possession

[@adityadharma]

"for sure... lifting... yeah..." Lost it at that part.

[@swozzlesticks3068]

The way it cuts away too. Beautiful

[@rydawg26]

for sure…lifting…yeah 😏

[@Snookbone]

Ok

[@Lateralus-yf3ek]

Went to the comments as soon as I heard that! 😂😂😂

[@alexoverend3017]

Came here for this comment 😂

[@NerdsmithTV]

I say reverse the Skyball idea - have a ball under the court center, that opens up in the event of a face-off, and launches the ball into the air. I give you, the COURT CANNON!

[@britishcig5462]

Omg ok hows this- for added randomness nobody knows whether its gonna be a skyball or a court cannon till it falls/gets launched

[@RobertF-zj2rm]

THHHUMMMP!!!

[@bajcli]

@@britishcig5462 also whether it's filled with cement

[@rogerszmodis]

@@britishcig5462 this should be determined by fan vote

[@MisterMomotaro1996]

This is exactly how Kolhii worked in the Bionicle movie lol

[@Oceanatornowk]

The long arm, one strong arm ref will haunt my dreams for weeks

[@SecretBaseSBN]

we've reprogrammed long arm/strong arm ref so his only desire is to clean behind and under couches, there is nothing to fear (anymore)

[@s.n.9485]

Lol

[@miamisportsculture2879]

@@SecretBaseSBN lol

[@kindaboth4060]

*years

[@MrHamboneBro]

Armlong Armstrong

[@upcomingartists9373]

“Maybe spent too much time lifting with one arm then the other arm” “For sure, lifting” 😂😂

[@jojo120997]

the cut directly after it makes it even funnier, you can tell both burst out into laughter😂

[@groovemeister5583]

Ha, ha, lifting.

[@ZGryphon]

It's the arm he wears his wristwatch on, obviously. :)

[@seymourglass26]

Playing a lot of disc golf.

[@arxulogic]

@@jojo120997 it cut because something else was busting 🥵

[@TehKidCrazy]

Beef History: Will and Seth shooting down each other’s ideas divided the fanbase

[@FALL-LAFF-7477]

not only divide the fanbase, it'll CONFUSE the fans.

[@FALL-LAFF-7477]

@@somregularguy uh... Maybe you should watch the video till end, it's about rule ideas to fix the league.

[@Wolfman9889]

The Sky Ball idea is actually pretty genius, and since all courts are inside it should have a perfect drop every time. It will allow more consistency, allowing centers and other players to specialize better in possession ball tipping, rather than the chaotic nature it is now the drop system could also probably maneuver around the court, so that you can have a drop ball where the jump balls would have still taken place, therefore fundamentally nothing would change the game, other than the speed and accuracy of the ball coming down

[@anitalift7546]

And besides, who doesn't want to chant "Sky Ball" with tens of thousands of other people as a basketball falls from the ceiling?

[@jeffdredd1172]

@@anitalift7546 I do.

[@hirshja]

@@anitalift7546 It's always been a dream of mine.

[@gunfighter009]

Yeah the speed is kind of the problem there. How fast would a basketball falling straight down from that high be going when it got down to the players?

[@TheMarslMcFly]

@@gunfighter009 You can calculate that. Also the Skyball contraption wouldn't have to hang directly under the ceiling, you could just have it get lowered down so the ball falls from 3 or 4m instead of 25 or however high the average basketball arena is.

[@timothye.2902]

7:55 "I think basketball gets a little messy if we're playing with 5 balls" Reminds me of my concept of "Double Basketball", the sport with (imo) the maximum amount of chaos that could still possibly function as a sport. 1 court, 4 teams playing 2 separate 1-vs-1 games, with 2 balls that are live for all teams. If you foul a player that's not in your match, your opposing team elects which player from their team takes the free throw.

[@CSTLW]

I love how seth is giving actual ideas to fix the jump ball and wil just says “give em a ladder and a chair and let them fight”

[@Seriously_Unserious]

Maybe we can add in entrance themes and over the top persona's too.

[@thetramp123]

They should have to answer basketball related trivia questions to determine possession.

[@thechickenman3713]

What happens when the players both can’t figure it out 😳

[@anthuknee.]

@@thechickenman3713 the game never happens

[@thetramp123]

@@thechickenman3713 They open up the question to the fans in attendance. Whoever gets it right now has to suit up for their team.

[@omegafolf]

Skyball, but with drones. RELEASE THE DRONES!

[@sexyohhenry4192]

Charles Styles will find his new career flying ball drones

[@awalsh4736]

@@sexyohhenry4192 uh oh, someone is stealing the salt for the popcorn, is there no one in this arena that can get to the bottom of this heinous crime using all of our available cameras?

[@ccouch713]

Five drones, and four of them drop balls filled with cement

[@greenearth975]

Gotta look out for those damn Iraqi food carts at your basketball games.

[@Chafe3]

I go around chanting “sky ball sky ball sky ball” like everyone else and apparently I’m “not allowed back in the mini golf course” and I need to “put my clothes on”

[@mchlwllsnd]

You scarred me for life, John. I had to report you.

[@galladegamerletsplays]

Yes, officer, this comment right here

[@Flavour_Beans]

Surely we can take SkyBall™ one step further by having it be a drone dropping the ball. People love drones, and then you can have it anywhere on the court.

[@MrHowulikeit]

So now we're giving the geriatric refs remote controls to initiate ball drops?

[@ccouch713]

They can also release the cement balls

[@achimsinn7782]

That would also make it easier to reload on balls.

[@letsmakeit110]

i propose we have one referee sitting on the other ref's shoulders and drop the ball from there

[@AdamLaMore]

Wasn't the "single ball in the middle and race from either end" idea what the original XFL had instead of a coin toss?

[@Myriadys]

Ah yes, we should make the kickoff worse.

[@BatCaveOz]

In Australian Rules Football (AFL) the umpires bounce the ball by slamming it into the ground instead of throwing it up in the air... unless the ground is wet and it won't bounce well. It has been intentionally made more random as a way of inducing fairness at the expense of repeatability. If the ball goes out of bounds, the umpire throws the ball back into the field of play, but they throw it over their head, with their back to the players and not looking where the players are. Again, the injection of chaos results in less repeatabilty, but reduces the possibilty of bias. Carn the Hawks!

[@DaveLowe28]

Was thinking the exact same. Pies!

[@AutocorrectDidThis789]

So in addition to yelling “BAAAAALLLLLL” we’ll also be yelling “SKYBAAAALLLLL” while a drone with Gil McLachlan’s face on the front of it swoops in and drops it from mid-air Up the Eagles!

[@Xavier_Coogat_the_Mambo_King]

Lets go Lions!

[@stodwinkle]

Was scrolling looking for this. Go dees, let's bring footy back to melbs

[@relser187]

Now I feel left out, I don’t have an AFL team to root for :( who should I pull for?

[@gideonaigner1160]

The Sky Ball is ironically a pretty good idea

[@Garibel19]

Cuz Seth Is not suggesting that as a serious proposal but he sold it to me, definitely we all picture ourselves yelling SKYBALL while Draymond Green and Marc Gasol wait to jump

[@Garibel19]

@@twerktospec "your little fantasy" hahaha leave the crackpipe before you use your phone dumb ass kook

[@Logholders]

you trying to have half the NBA players fingers broken? lol

[@hirshja]

@@twerktospec ...are you trying to claim that basketball is a made up sport? Ya, you need to put down that pipe.

[@jimmy13morrison]

@@hirshja all sport are made up

[@ncg195]

I'm so glad this series is back! If you're looking for a baseball rule to cover, you should explain the time that Jean Segura stole first. It happened on April 19th, 2013, Chicago Cubs @ Milwaukee Brewers. The relevant rule in this case is 5.09(b)(10): “Any runner is out when after he has acquired legal possession of a base, he runs the bases in reverse order for the purpose of confusing the defense or making a travesty of the game.” I am a Brewers fan, and I watched this game live. It is one of my favorite live sports moments that I've ever experienced.

[@ajgm1992]

I mean, let's be honest, we were all thinking what Wil said at 1:30

[@SecretBaseSBN]

in the moment i knew i would let y'all down if it went unsaid

[@mikemoore5263]

Clearly rock paper scissors is the only correct answer here!

[@joebaker2311]

I don't know, needs more cement

[@chrisdeleon3351]

@@joebaker2311 hear me out arm wrestling but with cement gloves

[@joshuamyers5326]

I get the rock and scissors, but how is arming yourself with paper going to win the death match to determine possession?

[@bevstarrunner9472]

​@@joshuamyers5326ever got a paper cut in the webbing between your fingers..?

[@howardbaxter2514]

And it HAS to be best 2 of 3.

[@arcsine]

I need Skyball both in NBA games and the Kevin Costner 90s box office bomb

[@trip11231]

I like the skyball idea, but instead of dropping from the Jumbotron, have a drone rigged with a device that can hold and release a ball, and drop if from 20ft above the court. It could also have arms on opposing sides that beam a red dot or circle on to the court where the players who are jumping for the ball would have to stand, so they start at an equal distance to it.

[@rome8180]

Agree with this. Dropping a ball from the rafters is probably too high. Someone might legitimately get hurt trying to tap a ball with that kind of velocity. Or if no one touched it, it would probably bounce 20 feet in the air, resulting in chaos. The drone also allows jump balls to take place any place on the court. In the original skyball idea, it would always take place at center court.

[@vidiia]

it could grip it by the husk!

[@kylerqaz22]

@@rome8180 So, looking into it a bit, the terminal velocity of a basketball is 45 miles per hour. And you can get those speeds just from relatively quick passes of the ball, so you'd probably be fine

[@rome8180]

@@kylerqaz22 I appreciate the research. Well done. I still think the drone is the better option just because you can do the drop from anywhere on the court instead of one specific spot.

[@santumi2298]

also, maybe after a bounce?

[@psikot]

"its worked for American Idol." Name as many American Idols without looking it up.

[@LTamazil]

"maybe they were lifting too much with one hand" "for sure, LIFTING..." (sneaky little jumpcut) I see you.

[@garrettsteven1963]

I’ve always had the thought that jump balls are incredibly difficult to throw straight up in the air but it was just something basketball players and fans just pretend is ok

[@n3rds3y3vi3w]

Casual fans think it’s more important than it really is. Creating a jump ball situation is usually a win for the defense, regardless of whether or not you win the tip after, because you’ve shutdown the offense’s play without fouling or resetting the shot clock.

[@ratedpending]

I was literally just watching a different weird rules thinking, "hm, I wonder when they'll upload another one of these" I'm a prophet

[@SecretBaseSBN]

we...we never even made this episode wait what how did this end up on the channel...ratedpending willed this into existence???

[@Noresiduel]

@@SecretBaseSBN this is a quality comment

[@ratedpending]

@@SecretBaseSBN this does mean i have the legal rights to skyball btw

[@Snookbone]

@@SecretBaseSBN yeah you definitely didn't put up a community post the other day saying it would happen

[@camri.taylor]

“For sure. Lifting, yeah.” Freaking dead. I love this series. Sometimes I just put the playlist on in the background while I’m cleaning or whatever. It’s one of my favorite series on this channel

[@zmothersbaugh2477]

"In the spirit of letting the players decide, just about the worst idea possible" "okay"

[@adamstevens5518]

I was in the middle of typing a comment that they should drop the ball from the ceiling when you said “skyball.” Well done.

[@Jingx]

Not just jump balls, refs have too much influence in the nba period. Look at the Kings in 2002

[@decipheringchaos]

Absolutely right, we should bring back kings and let the monarchy decide who gets the ball

[@VCBird6]

Mavs in 2006

[@maryrosetran5109]

Not just the NBA.

[@russelljohnson7004]

the delivery of "for sure,,,lifting" was obviously great, but good on the editor for making it land so well.

[@AchieveLem0n]

Seth’s idea on how to fix this is actually incredible on all fronts.

[@aieousavren]

"Needs more cement." "Needs more cement, they say."

[@TheKipperjones]

I for one look forward to a future where skyball is chanted by the masses.

[@ericbadertscher6978]

I was driving when he suggested doing a Money in the Bank style tip-off. I almost wrecked cause I was dying laughing 😂😂😂

[@Tykoon22]

You do realize the “Money in the Bank” briefcase in WWE doesn’t actually have money in it… It has a contract for a guaranteed world title match which can be cashed in at any point within one year from the day they win it.

[@brandonbowles5151]

Ran to the comments to see if anyone caught that😂

[@vastexpanse2376]

You do realize how easy it is to assume what dude did, especially if you don't watch wrastlin'

[@rome8180]

WGAF. It's wrestling.

[@99dndd]

The 1st few editions had money

[@SkunkApe407]

@@rome8180 WWE, the largest promotion in the world, has over 11 million fans in the US alone. That's just over 3% of the US population. India has over 335 million wrestling fans. So there are literally millions of people who care. A simple web search would have kept you from looking like an ass.

[@rodericksanchez9867]

"Quietly filled with cement" This is gold! LOL

[@adamt7413]

You should make a SB bracket to determine the best alternative to jump ball but with each collaborator submitting 1 idea (i.e. Seth’s is Skyball and Will’s is Ladder Death Match) + fan suggestions. I really wanna hear what Clara, Ryan, Koffi, and Jon B would propose

[@MasonMartin19]

this may be the funniest secret base video in years. seth mouthing “sky ball! sky ball!” while will talked killed me

[@187mrsmith]

This video is almost like stand up comedy its hilariousness literally just made my day

[@Nick-Lab]

I think the skyball idea is fire. Have a hopper filled with more than enough balls to cover the game. At the end of the game, the hopper just empties itself as the bell rings raining down all the leftover skyballs

[@PaxsonRussell]

The climbing to the sky ball like WWE was exactly what I was thinking when he described the initial premise.

[@CoryFiscus]

Oh heck yeah, I just binged the Weird Rules playlist last week and am ready for more

[@raishauntanner4206]

WEIRD RULES IS BACK LETS GOOOOOOOOO

[@sontyphalt45]

Funfact: I’m an hockey linesman and for real, if i wouldn’t want one player to win a faceoff he wouldn’t win a single faceoff. it is really easy to throw the puck in a way that makes it impossible for one player to win the faceoff if you know what you are doing.

[@percival8193]

Hey Secret Base, only complaint I have is this video could’ve used more cement

[@Qtoyghs]

Mr. Rosenthal's exasperated pause after Mr. Buikema chimed in with, "For sure. Lifting. Yeah," at 1:33 tells you everything you could ever need to know about the coworker relationship dynamics at Secret Base.

[@matthewforbes2969]

Collapse: how Lance Armstrong’s inspiring story of cancer survival became forever tarnished Collapse: how a legendary AC Milan team was done in by injuries age and transfers Untitled: Tony Gwynn Untitled: Ted Williams Collapse: how the Montreal canadiens to this day never again reached sniffing distance of Lord Stanley Rewinder: 2014 World Cup final Rewinder: the miracle at Istanbul Rewinder: Mario Chalmers’ game tying shot in the national championship game A 3 part beef history between the Red Sox and Yankees Beef history: Real Madrid vs Barcelona

[@groovemeister5583]

a lot of suggestions my guy

[@Eidenhoek]

Dude, the Armstrong thing would have to be *looooooong*. That's definitely Bois material.

[@doctorvladandhisbluejaysd2802]

The Canadiens suggestion didn't age well... I guess

[@jjoo93]

I have missed these videos - so glad weird rules is back.

[@rstates8864]

MORE WEIRD RULES!

[@Dayyyjoey26]

Throwing after drinking while watching this. My head is pounding but your funny ideas made me feel a bit better. Thanks for this and all your other episodes

[@declanssportsdesk]

MORE FOOTBALL COLLAPSE VIDEOS PLEASE

[@Magic_beans_]

7:40 They kinda did this in the XFL. Two opposing players would scramble for a ball placed at midfield. Difference is it didn’t establish possession per se, instead it replaced the coin flip, so the winning team got to decide who got first possession or choose the initial direction of play.

[@insiderjmoney]

Yes Weird Rules is what I need today!

[@galeisaac3472]

85% team, 10% coach and 5% ref

[@187mrsmith]

It literally never almost goes straight up in the air between two players feel like 9 times out of 10 when they throw the ball up it always goes towards one side they need to come up with something that just holds it up there and once it gets tipped whoever gets it gets it

[@itsyourenotyour9101]

Oh, that's your sample size? Welp, nothing to see here. Needs to be fixed the man says. 9/10 times, great research. I'm willing to bet you didn't even realize this happens. So your research is even more valuable.

[@ahillmann]

Surely rock-paper-scissors for possession is the obvious option.

[@12packersfan]

I’ve thought about this problem ever since the tyranny of middle school basketball

[@percys8774]

The VERY BEST alternative to a jump ball is this old playground idea: As a kid sometimes we would do a triple-bounce "jump" ball. It's simple, you drop the ball between the two players and it has to bounce three times. After the third bounce it's a live ball and both players can go for it. If one player touches the ball before the third bounce then the other team automatically gets possession. It's fun and it's suspenseful waiting for that third bounce, and it doesn't favor height in the ridiculous way a jump ball does. If anything a shorter faster player may have the advantage in a triple-bounce.

[@big8dog887]

@@percys8774 Love this idea, in fact, it should be combined with the "Skyball" idea so that the bounces have reasonable height.

[@mattmurphy5805]

Everyone be gangsta till the sky ball drops in the middle of play and hits someone on the head

[@WidgerCentral]

"Skyball! Skyball! Skyball!" This is absolute genius, Seth! How has nobody thought of this before? This should happen! :-)

[@thatguyineverycommentssection]

what really grinds my gears is when people talk about “jump balls” in high school and college when they really mean “held balls” or “tie-ups”

[@michaelbrantley6039]

Skyball sounds legit minus the ladder shenanigans just like a jump ball but it's guaranteed to go straight down basically have a 321 count so they know when it's coming tho

[@stephenramos2824]

Drop drone no ladder needed lol

[@harambeyonce9427]

Weird rules, beef history & dorktown are my DRUG. Can’t get enough; so so well done

[@that_chem_guy]

Honestly, put the ball in the middle, one player from each team under the basket, ref blows the whistle, dead sprint to get it, and then free time out for whoever grabs it. That way they can get the ball, reset, and get going

[@Mikey_Z08]

Sounds like concussion city

[@M033-f4q]

Could result in more jump balls though

[@cesarfreitas6304]

XBL

[@joshg1529]

The xfl use to do that and it led to more injuries.

[@that_chem_guy]

Dodgeball also does it and it generally works out ok. Are there incidents? Yeah, but they're honestly few and far between

[@ParkerTJames]

Not gonna lie 0:45 in to this video I was like “why not drop it from under the Jumbotron?”

[@jamesthemaniac3293]

CORRECTION! Its a briefcase with a contract for a future title match NOT full of money!

[@TonySamedi]

I was literally about to make this comment.

[@cheighes1]

Hear me out, an oversized t-shirt cannon loaded with the ball on a track or swivel at one end. All ten players at the other end. RNG triggers the launch and it becomes like a Hail Mary. Teams decide whether to stack one side, play spread, cover the opponent. Amazeballs.

[@mattmurphy5805]

Traveling is allowed for that one play

[@matthellmann4212]

In hockey they just awkwardly stop play immediately and redo it. that's.... better?

[@markdavis7397]

Best idea of all is the 4/5 cement balls. Genius.

[@wanderlustwarrior]

"Suitcase full of money" - that's NOT what Money in the Bank is! Sorry, that just bugged me. The briefcase contains a title opportunity contract. Except for last year when it contained a championship itself. I like SKYBALL, though!

[@commentcopbadge6665]

I just fell in love with the "skyball" idea.

[@BorinUltimatum]

The easiest solution : a game of Knockout between the two players who were jostling for possession.

[@unclecreepy4185]

So basically these guys are trying to create the XBA, where the X stands for X-treme. The dodgeball style was literally what the XFL did instead of a coin toss.

[@Redneck.Rembrandt]

We definitely need more cement in today's society

[@papaquonis]

I realise it's very different to basketball, but I always loved how the umpires in aussie rules football handle the ball in similar situations. To start the game, they bounce the football hard into the ground and then the opposing teams jump for it like in basketball. The uneven shape of the football makes the bounce pretty random, so there's little risk of an umpire being accused of not being fair. Throw-ins are also handled by the umpires. They stand on the line with their back to the playing field and then throw it as hard and high as they can backwards. Again it's somewhat random where the ball drops, but both teams have some time to adjust to make a fair go at the ball.

[@SomeOfTheJuice]

I do genuinely love the idea of skyball, especially since they could set it up to have specific locations it drops. That said, I would love the idea of bringing Money in the Bank into this and make it have ladders mixed in, just to make it more competitive. Or like, if that's going too far and dangerous, make it have a Ninja Warrior-esque rope climb up to the ball, and whoever gets there first will get possession once everyone's back on the ground.

[@Asher.Yodaah]

I like the idea of a dodgeball game in the middle of a basketball game to determine who gets a jump ball.

[@JudeBlackwell740]

The best solution is that anytime there’s a tie-up the game ends

[@sonofmunson]

If the throw isn’t straight, you blow the whistle, set back up and throw it again. If time is a factor, then reset to the time prior to the throw. This is what happens in a line out in rugby when the throw isn’t straight. You just reset and do it again until it’s straight.

[@187mrsmith]

Refs have too much influence regardless without the jump ball they always messing with the flow of the game or not letting people play when it matters most swallow your whistle bro 👊💯👌🏾

[@Snookbone]

Their job isn't to let the game flow, it's to enforce the rules.

[@russellst.martin4255]

1) Lower the hoop to 7ft and have each coach do their best dunk. Winner's team gets the ball. 2) The ball will be hidden under a seat within the arena. Hand out a card to each player containing a serious of clues leading to the ball's location, each clue more fiendish than the last. 3) Ball goes to the player who has been hit the least by popcorn kernels/other foreign objects being hurled at them up through this point in the game.

[@josephrunyon8081]

I feel like 5 balls at center court, each player lines up on opposite ends, whichever team gets most of the basketballs wins the “jump ball”. It will at the very least be 3-2

[@kourii]

That was my first thought when he started with the 'five balls in the centre' idea. Probably simplest just to have one ball, but five balls works too

[@not2be4gotten02]

7:38 "can they also have chairs" makes me think of the coach throwing one across the court

[@kaydengarrett3210]

When sb uploads my day becomes better

[@glenm99]

I propose a flipper, like in Hungry, Hungry Hippos, but of course way bigger. The home team's mascot jumps off a trampoline onto one end, thus hurling the ball onto the court in a way that's fair enough, but which also has a bit of a random element. Bonus: mascot proficiency is now very slightly relevant to the game.

[@georgefrench8193]

I love this series

[@justalittlebitmo]

Each jump ball the players all join in an epic tug o' war to determine possession.

[@taylorpagani9515]

So happy to see this series back. Love it

[@Kfri4486]

It’s great this series is back!

[@imrmebs]

Our highschool gym class played dodgeball rules to decide jumpballs, it sits at the centre circle and 2 players run and slide into it to fight for possession, usually leading to a series of "jumpball" calls

[@lukedouglas46]

Ok we are all thinking it, Weird Rules without my tall boi is weird, still though I love anything this channel posts

[@americayeagermeister]

7:45 Love the Harden reference

[@CrackSkellington]

This was such a good episode. I wasn’t ready for the god tier riffing

[@nickbarnett8561]

"God tier riffing"? Good lord you need to broaden your comedy viewing

[@togawe]

This has to be one of my favorite episodes yet, had me rolling in laughter

[@ijustsawthat]

Everybody is gangsta until Shaq lifts the cement ball, dunks and breaks the rim.

[@cattibingo]

*SKYBALL! SKYBALL! SKYBALL! SKYBALL!*

[@stargon]

The thing about the Kanter-Vucevic tipoff example at 3:47 is that Vucevic routinely doesn't even try to get the tip because he's not great at it and was standing significantly farther from the center than Kanter, so the throw was naturally closer to Kanter's arm

[@SandVessel]

I wish I had the self control that y'all have to keep a straight face during some of these conversations.

[@TheN8ism]

I love the idea of basketball players diving headfirst into cement filled basketball.

[@KumbaIvor]

Props for the Stuart reference. "Look what I can do" 😂😂😂😂

[@funangeld1556]

Simple Solution: Get rid of the Jump Ball entirely. The home team/host will start with possession of the ball in the 1st and 4th quarters (kind of like NFL kickoff and to keep the suspense late) with the away team starting in the 2nd and 3rd quarters. At the start of each quarter, each team starts at their own base line and a buzzer alerts them and the crowd that the team with possession will be rushing in to try to score. In the case of typical jump ball scenarios and OT, the ball will be placed precisely in the middle of the court and one person from each time will be designated to get to it as quick as possible, this person will be designated the Runner, and there will be sensors on this special, not-used-during-the-rest-of-the-game basketball, which will allow us to definitely know who touched it first. Then, the teams will once again start at their own base lines for the next possession. Also, this Runner must be one of the five assigned starters or their replacements if they foul out or are injured.