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@smartcookie1806
@smartcookie1806 3 жыл бұрын
Ngl, I feel like being both a guardian and a superhero is just too much for Marinette to handle all by herself at this point. Even when she revealed her identity to Alya who was supposed to be a huge help to her, it still feels like she’s struggling to make the right decisions for her team and keep things under control (like Alya just telling Nino that she’s still Rena Rouge). And with Chat slowly becoming more upset and frustrated, it’s only a matter of time before she loses stability in her relationship with him as well. Gang of Secrets is nothing to the kind of mental breakdown Marinette might have later this season due to all of her problems, and I’m not ready for it in the slightest. Edit: Oh, and one more thing (I need to get this out as much as possible) - I feel like we all have to look at this whole identity situation from the perspective of both characters. Adrien’s POV is that Ladybug is unfairly leaving him in the dark and keeping secrets for no reason that he can discern. And Marinette’s POV is that getting too close or personal about her decisions as Guardian will mean a repeat of Chat Blanc (Sentibubbler confirms that she’s still somewhat traumatized by that encounter). Neither Adrien nor Marinette is right or wrong in this situation; they both have good arguments for their wishes and consequences as well. Some of y’all need to stop taking sides and recollect past events and established plot points in this show; if you do, you’ll see that both Adrien and Marinette are justified in what they’re feeling and doing.
@cerisecerezacherry
@cerisecerezacherry 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm not ready either
@amandinegregoris120
@amandinegregoris120 3 жыл бұрын
If you say so.
@amandinegregoris120
@amandinegregoris120 3 жыл бұрын
Me too neighter I am not ready for that in the season 4 of miraculous.
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Well said! I couldn’t have said it better myself💕💕💕
@RodrigoSilva-hd2ig
@RodrigoSilva-hd2ig 3 жыл бұрын
There is just one thing. In Cat Blanc Marinette said that what caused it was the fact that Adrien found out and made it public. She doesn't know Adrien is CN. So how come she could ever think that sharing secrets or even revealing her identity would cause it? More to the point, she knows a very specific event caused CB. She knows the trigger was giving Adrien that signed gift as LB. I don't understand how she could ever think that any interaction between her and CN would cause Chat Blanc. Also her being traumatised is normal because she saw someone she cared about in lot's of pain and rage.
@mlbfgirl
@mlbfgirl 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine this scenario of them revealing their secrets: Nino: I told adrien our identities Alya: WHAT Alya: I told nino I'm still Rena Rouge Marinette: WHAT Ladybug: I told alya my identity Cat noir: WHAT>:( Cat noir: I heard everything from nino Ladybug: WHAT
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
LMAOOOO 😂😂😂
@emply932
@emply932 3 жыл бұрын
Pfttttt I CAN’T 🤣🤣🤣
@yourlocalchloesimp
@yourlocalchloesimp 3 жыл бұрын
It's come full circle 😂
@lutfakhanam2434
@lutfakhanam2434 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao-
@lbcnforlifelb9479
@lbcnforlifelb9479 3 жыл бұрын
Is nobody going to talk about how TheCartoonHotspot predicted the Ladynoir argument to come AND Alya and Marinette’s potential friendship strain?? 😭
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
😭❤️
@bryanawilliamson5772
@bryanawilliamson5772 3 жыл бұрын
I’m going to be ready happy and sad to watch this video because I love ladynoir and I don’t know what is going to happen in season 4 but I really love you Analysis videos the CartoonHotspot let’s get some hope for ladynoir and cat noir ❤️🙂
@strawberrychocolate9383
@strawberrychocolate9383 3 жыл бұрын
Fandom after season 1: We want a reveal! Fandom after season 2: We want a reveal! Fandom after season 3: We want better written characters and episodes! Fandom at the beginning of season 4: We want a fight between Ladybug and Chat Noir! Give us lots of feelings and angst! Show us the breaking point of a character!
@paria1763
@paria1763 3 жыл бұрын
Fandom in the middle of season 4: I REGRET WHAT I SAID! I WANTED ANGST BUT NOT THIS MUCH ANGST! GO BACK GO BACK GO BACK GO BACK GO BACK GO BACK GO BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@emply932
@emply932 3 жыл бұрын
@@paria1763 so true lol 🤣🤣
@alonii.
@alonii. 3 жыл бұрын
and the last name: no ❤️
@p1harmoney
@p1harmoney 3 жыл бұрын
Fandom in season 17: oh myy gosh what the frick is this mess what have we done help we regret this how to quit this oh my gosh
@allersalster457
@allersalster457 3 жыл бұрын
Nino and Alya is what the fandom wants the love square to be but Adrien and marinette is what we got instead 😐
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
😭😭 Nino and Alya are the POWER couple!
@sillysillyyyy
@sillysillyyyy 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCartoonHotspot Exactly!
@celesteshearts
@celesteshearts 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE DJWifi
@lovelucyxx
@lovelucyxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCartoonHotspot YESS I SILENTLY SCREAMED WHEN YOU SAID THAT :DD
@liambotha2467
@liambotha2467 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao well ayla was like no more secrets to nino but she stills keeping the secret of ladybugs identity. So why couldnt she keep the Rena rouge secret lol
@tomasramos5840
@tomasramos5840 3 жыл бұрын
Adrien is the ONLY who keep his secret identity.
@Gyro_369
@Gyro_369 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@oumousama8543
@oumousama8543 3 жыл бұрын
Yep he’s the only one having to deal with the pressure of not telling anyone 🙃🥲 I can already guess what will come
@adenialuthfiarifah7184
@adenialuthfiarifah7184 3 жыл бұрын
I hope he could withstand all the attacks he received. but one day he needs to be taken out. why does he have to feel sad, imprisoned, betrayed, abandoned. my boy.
@maymay5600
@maymay5600 3 жыл бұрын
@@oumousama8543 i predict and hear me out, he's gonna reveal his identity to chloe
@shahlashihabudeen1527
@shahlashihabudeen1527 3 жыл бұрын
@@oumousama8543 oh no not chat blanc
@random8163
@random8163 3 жыл бұрын
This episode by far was the strongest episode of the season… can’t wait to hear your analysis queen🥰
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! And thanks!❤️❤️
@preeyakaur1407
@preeyakaur1407 3 жыл бұрын
In this episode chat noir/ Adrien is losing his trust in ladybug/ marinette which may lead to marichat / a reverse love square because maybe he’ll start to confide in marinette about his lack of trust ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Yessss more Marichat hopefully
@dancerbranka
@dancerbranka 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm sure he will do that- he did that already in the past (glaciator, frozer)
@Genesisruizg
@Genesisruizg 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought too! 😁
@alialison_
@alialison_ 3 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping for some Marichat ❤️
@annalopez4383
@annalopez4383 3 жыл бұрын
@@dancerbranka exactly
@hebaahmad4921
@hebaahmad4921 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Chat Noir will reveal his identity soon. I think the emotions of sadness and frustration are building up in him. Eventually, he will crack and reveal his identity to Ladybug because he's sick of being left in the dark. This might happen in episode 22, which probably won't happen, but I think it makes sense. The creators said episode 22 was going to be a big episode, and Chat Noir revealing himself seems big. I also think it makes sense because in the Finale synopsis that was released, they mentioned that Marinette might reveal her identity in order to make Adrien stay. The only reason she would do that is if she knows that Adrien loves Ladybug, otherwise why would she consider doing it. One of the ways that she would find out that Chat Noir loves Ladybug is if Chat Noir revealed himself as Adrien in episode 22, then Ladybug will consider revealing herself.
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Possibly! I just hope the reveal (if it does happen in the finale) is good and not cringey lol😂
@amandinegregoris120
@amandinegregoris120 3 жыл бұрын
Wow oh my godness I can't wait to see that in the season 4 of miraculous.
@yourlocalchloesimp
@yourlocalchloesimp 3 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD!! YOU JUST SOLVED THE FRICKIN MYSTERY!! This all makes sense now! I think he *will* reveal his identity in season 4! LES GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@yourlocalchloesimp
@yourlocalchloesimp 3 жыл бұрын
@Cole Davis HOLD UP!! IT WAS??!!! Okay, that's it! We don't need anymore evidence, I think it's already proven.
@yourlocalchloesimp
@yourlocalchloesimp 3 жыл бұрын
@Cole Davis Yeah! That's exactly what I was thinking, and that's why I think it's really going to happen now. I CAN'T WAIT!!! Also, what happened to the episode "Gabriel Agreste" exactly? We don't even have a single leak from that episode.
@alonii.
@alonii. 3 жыл бұрын
Adrien is the only one who has kept his secret identity because he doesn’t want to do something behind ladybug’s back
@sensei8763
@sensei8763 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the episode of Sentibubbler and Rocketear are setting up something big for Cat Noir like he got mad at Rena Rouge for not letting him fight and in Rocketear he was mad that Nino and Alya knew each other’s identity but Ladybug told him multiple times that their identities must remain a secret.I think that WishMaker( ep.18) will have a mad catnoir/Adrien too Cat Blanc 2.0???
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely! Wishmaker will be a huge episode!
@moarmy_blog6559
@moarmy_blog6559 3 жыл бұрын
i said ladynoir angst as a joke… I don’t think it’s a joke anymore 😟✋
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
We really need to be careful what we wish for lmao🤣💕
@moarmy_blog6559
@moarmy_blog6559 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCartoonHotspot yeah we do 🥲
@itzspinika8225
@itzspinika8225 3 жыл бұрын
We wanted more Chat/Adrien screentime but not this 😭
@strawberrycutiecakes1141
@strawberrycutiecakes1141 3 жыл бұрын
YOU'VE JINXED IT. LOOK AT WHAT YOU CAUSED NOOOOOO
@moarmy_blog6559
@moarmy_blog6559 3 жыл бұрын
@@strawberrycutiecakes1141 IM SORRY 😭😭😭
@joannav1082
@joannav1082 3 жыл бұрын
Cat and Ladybug need to talk about things soon, before another Cat Blanc happens
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely!
@amandinegregoris120
@amandinegregoris120 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes I want this in the season 4 of miraculous.
@Oreo_Editz
@Oreo_Editz 3 жыл бұрын
Why always poor cat noir gets akumatized. Ladybug should also get akumatized, the show is too biased. That’s why I quit watching the show now.
@Babyducks825
@Babyducks825 3 жыл бұрын
I especially loved that Adrien got some more screentime and we even saw another side to him, like feeling angry/upset/confused and doubtful. I feel like Season 4 is really (even if he's been absent a lot) building more onto Adrien/Chat's character. And I rlly appreciate that bc I love him. Also im sooo ladynoir deprived. Actually I am full-on love square deprived. I miss the moments so much. dont get me wrong, i love alya + mari but like-- the lOvE sQuArE cMoN
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely! I can’t wait for the character development we’ll get from Adrien 🥺
@Babyducks825
@Babyducks825 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCartoonHotspot me too!! Ah thank you for replying too, hehe, this is exciting for me! (:
@leannemcelroy8482
@leannemcelroy8482 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the moon also symbolizes Marinette though. Here me out: Because in the main Marichat scenes they are shown together at night under the moon. In the NY special, we had that adrienette dance underneath it and Adrien thinking about Marinette on the plane while looking at it. In Cat Blanc, the moon was in half, destroyed. But here it’s intact. Could this foreshadow that Marinette will be the one to keep Cat Noir stable? Just a theory 😂 but I hope so, I’m dying for some more Marichat. 🤚
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
I love this theory!
@miraculouslycutee3580
@miraculouslycutee3580 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE UR THEORY- OH GOD-
@aneethea5375
@aneethea5375 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, anything for marichat
@leannemcelroy8482
@leannemcelroy8482 3 жыл бұрын
@@aneethea5375 I feel yah
@8bitpokie826
@8bitpokie826 3 жыл бұрын
I love the marichat ship but i still like adrienette better, even though they’re technically the same ship
@Remy_Lilyth
@Remy_Lilyth 3 жыл бұрын
I swear that Ladybug and Chat Noir needs to have an honest conversation... Especially Ladybug filling him in on what's happening. Chat Noir needs to tell her about his bottled up feelings that might grow. Their relationship can only be fixed if they tell each other things.
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@jordanblankjordanblank4603
@jordanblankjordanblank4603 3 жыл бұрын
What really annoys me is Alya telling Nino about her being Rena Rouge AFTER asking Marinette, "do you trust me?" Like.. excuse me!?
@andrear4954
@andrear4954 3 жыл бұрын
When I first watched it I thought that meant Marinette trusts Alya's judgement in telling Nino, so I was shocked when TCH thought it meant Alya was doing it behind Marinettes back 😭
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrear4954 Alya told Marinette that she’ll fix everything but she didn’t tell her *HOW* so she went behind Marinette’s back, without her permission, and told Nino she’s Rena even though they agreed that nobody can know
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was pretty…sneaky🙁😭
@jordanblankjordanblank4603
@jordanblankjordanblank4603 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCartoonHotspot I'm waiting for this to cause some kind of issue, most likely relationships will be challenged during some critical moment, but this also gives Adrien a route to look if he really wanted. Nino flat out telling him who he and Alya were was reckless, and it's easy for Adrien to wonder, "Ladybug trusts Nino and Alya.. interesting." He's socially new, he isn't dumb. This episode was fascinating, I loved it, and the twists and turns were good!
@yourlocalchloesimp
@yourlocalchloesimp 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCartoonHotspot Actually, I think Marinette already knew what Alya meant by "Do you trust me?" But then again, I could be wrong.
@adenialuthfiarifah7184
@adenialuthfiarifah7184 3 жыл бұрын
I think Adrien really needs a friend to talk to besides Plagg because Plagg is like defending Ladybug even though his master really needs support, not being attacked gently. Adrien only has a plagg to talk about chat noir for now. I'm quite disappointed with Plagg instead of supporting or treating the wound it's like attacking
@amandinegregoris120
@amandinegregoris120 3 жыл бұрын
Plagg make me disappointed to him.
@theo5910
@theo5910 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the moon could also mean a reverse love square?. it could be he's losing feelings for ladybug (even if she's Marinette) and developing feelings for Marinette in the process. Ladybug is lying to him and in his mind Marinette doesnt lie.
@dancerbranka
@dancerbranka 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree
@leannemcelroy8482
@leannemcelroy8482 3 жыл бұрын
Yes because in other Marichat moments it’s night time under the moon
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree! Because the moon is not just for Ladynoir… it’s also for Marichat and adrienette! So maybe he could be thinking about marinette since he has memories of her under the moonlight 🥺🥺
@yourlocalchloesimp
@yourlocalchloesimp 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCartoonHotspot Ladrien: *Cries in Forgotten*
@exinaplays400
@exinaplays400 3 жыл бұрын
I’m manifesting a Ladynoir fight that leads to a “BECAUSE I LOVE YOU” and then a kiss
@amandinegregoris120
@amandinegregoris120 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes you are right what you say I want this in the season 4 of miraculous.
@Remy_Lilyth
@Remy_Lilyth 3 жыл бұрын
I hope for that too
@amandinegregoris120
@amandinegregoris120 3 жыл бұрын
@@Remy_Lilyth Okay me too eighter I hope for that in the season 4 of miraculous to like you.
@soscarlettitwasss
@soscarlettitwasss 3 жыл бұрын
Ok you got my hopes high now
@yourlocalchloesimp
@yourlocalchloesimp 3 жыл бұрын
"Not a chance, kitty."
@Cough_ez3931
@Cough_ez3931 3 жыл бұрын
This episode can really predict the next episode like wishmaker. My theory is the lady with the dinosaurs will be akumatized to wishmaker since she could have wished for dinosaurs and many people said that’s ridiculous. Or it can be a birthday party.
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Oooh interesting theory!🥰
@Cough_ez3931
@Cough_ez3931 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCartoonHotspot thanks, after all Thomas doesn’t just add random people to the stories. They need plot and a reason why they are doing this.
@hello_there-pk7td
@hello_there-pk7td 3 жыл бұрын
The birthday party for wishmaker makes sense🤔
@Monica-gy5tx
@Monica-gy5tx 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for Adrien to find out about Cat Blanc!!!!!
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
It’s going to be heartbreaking but it needs happen!🥺
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
@@Monica-gy5tx sure I’ll check it out!💕
@cerisecerezacherry
@cerisecerezacherry 3 жыл бұрын
Sameee
@ghostphira8712
@ghostphira8712 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCartoonHotspot yeah, he needs to know the real reason of why Ladybug is afraid
@amandinegregoris120
@amandinegregoris120 3 жыл бұрын
Me too eighter and I want cat noir want to know the real reason why ladybug is afraid.
@janiyahlynn4714
@janiyahlynn4714 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine what Tikki, Plagg, and the other kwamis feel watching this all play out. 😂😂😂
@shanthi4855
@shanthi4855 3 жыл бұрын
They be sipping the tea like 👁️👄👁️ ☕ 👌
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
@@shanthi4855 😂😂😂😂😂
@crystalhosang3267
@crystalhosang3267 3 жыл бұрын
What if when Hawkmoth said that secrets and love don't go together, could this be a parallel to Hawkmoth's life with him and his wife or the general relationship with him and his family?
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Yesss I think so too!
@Zvwry
@Zvwry 3 жыл бұрын
Why aren’t people more mad at alya and nino for one lying to Mari (by telling nino she’s Rena TWICE after Mari said not too) and revealing both of their identities to Adrien🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I’m seeing more Marinette slander and it doesn’t make sense like??? I love Nino and Alya but they made mistakes which they shouldn’t have done not without consulting Ladybug at least😭
@smartcookie1806
@smartcookie1806 3 жыл бұрын
@Brooklyn VillaTiznado A lot of people don’t seem to understand that the characters making mistakes is essential to plot progression in the story. Come to think of it, conflict wouldn’t even exist in any story ever if the characters didn’t make some mistakes, and that’s all these four are doing. I agree that people need to stop hating on Lb and CN for doing stuff and acting in ways that is/are understandable and important for the storyline.
@smartcookie1806
@smartcookie1806 3 жыл бұрын
Precisely! Marinette isn’t even getting the respect she’s earned as a Guardian if these two are just nonchalantly blabbing about their identities.
@smartcookie1806
@smartcookie1806 3 жыл бұрын
@Brooklyn VillaTiznado Yeah, personally, I don’t really see why people are being biased in the first place. Lb and CN both have reasons for what they’re doing and how they’re feeling.
@smartcookie1806
@smartcookie1806 3 жыл бұрын
@Brooklyn VillaTiznado Glad to know we agree 😉!
@toogayforyourdrama4606
@toogayforyourdrama4606 3 жыл бұрын
this will probably won't be happening any time soon but I want a carefree episode where the characters are just interracting and overall enjoying themselves, without any worries. It's funny that I wanted more plot development when we were in s1 but now all the way in s4 I just want no worries for once. HAKUNA MATATA.
@person954
@person954 3 жыл бұрын
this season is giving me more stress than school
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😭
@mlbfgirl
@mlbfgirl 3 жыл бұрын
Marinette doesn't know the REAL reason Cat Blanc happened. All she knows is that he knew her identity and that they were together. Imagine if bunnix told her that hawkmoth found out cat noir's identity and akumatized him.... Mari wouldn't be keeping him in the dark like this
@maymay5600
@maymay5600 3 жыл бұрын
no, i think something way worse happened
@anthonydsouza6172
@anthonydsouza6172 3 жыл бұрын
This made me realize that Marinette is stronger than alya and nino ....Marinette held in all of her secrets without complaining and bringing out her emotions for one year...while alya on the other hand is just trying to find ways to blurt out to someone about her secret identity...she also snaps at Marinette not realising how in- considerate she was being, and at the end of the episode also ends up telling nino about Rena furitive ....while Marinette held it in for one year!!! And alya could not hold it in for just a few weeks or maybe days,without telling nino, behind marinette's back about her new superhero ego....then we have nino who in the heat of the moment blurted out to Adrien that he is carapace and alya is Rena rouge ...ok telling your identity is one thing ...but telling some body else's identity is another thing, there was no need for him to tell Adrien about Rena's identity.... We also know how much chat /Adrien is suffering ...through this we can conclude that ladybug/marinette and chat noir/Adrien are the strongest characters .....letting nino and alya into the secrets has ruined everything..but on the other hand Marinette needed someone to talk to, but alya is being a bit irresponsible and does not realize the dangers this could lead to(taking that alya does not know about chat blanc),other wise even she would have taken this seriously,just like Marinette,Marinette knew that spilling secrets and being careless will be the end of the world ...but alya thinks that Marinette is worrying too much , and this makes it really look like she does not know about chat blanc yet ...pls don't hate me for criticizing alya and nino,just giving my opinion on this episode...actually its not really criticism just a deep analysis,with a opinion from my perspective...
@alyssa4730
@alyssa4730 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this episode! This season just keeps getting better and better. I’m terrified for what’s to come though, speaking on the fact the there are tons of secrets going around..
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@amandinegregoris120
@amandinegregoris120 3 жыл бұрын
Ummm...Me to eighter I'm terrified to come in the season 4 of miraculous.
@SukeveClips
@SukeveClips 3 жыл бұрын
"Love and secrets do not go well together" well alya and nino are a risk yet they are together. Ladynoir? Well.. they haven't been in sync because they are holding secrets and they aren't together so... Chat blanc is gonna blow this for us😂 cause of ladybug not keeping him in the loop. She strayed from him fearing of chat blanc again yet not understanding that she could cause it
@jungho-seok4244
@jungho-seok4244 3 жыл бұрын
Mari and adrian are friends but not best friends and also she shouldn't feel obligated to reveal her identity when she dosen't want to
@SukeveClips
@SukeveClips 3 жыл бұрын
@@jungho-seok4244 it's got nothing to do with her identity,it's goood that they don't know eachothers identities but ladybug is still keeping secrets from chat noir
@jungho-seok4244
@jungho-seok4244 3 жыл бұрын
@@SukeveClips she dosen't even know his real name so how to u expect to tell someone ur secrets with knowing them personality
@SukeveClips
@SukeveClips 3 жыл бұрын
@@jungho-seok4244 bruuuuh I'm onna bout keeping chat noir in the loop about ladybug and Rena rouge knowing eachothers identities as she's the guardian what secrets are you onna about -.- leave me alone guys
@jungho-seok4244
@jungho-seok4244 3 жыл бұрын
@@SukeveClips I'm just saying she shouldn't be obligated to reveal herself to someone she dosen't know on a personal level she only told her bestfriend because that's her bestfriend
@whosfraa
@whosfraa 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like everyone keeps forgetting about how even Chloe broke free of Hawkmoth's control in Miraculer, she's technically the first to break free from his control in civilian form while Alya is the first breaking free from his control after being already akumatized, nonetheless I think the fact nobody's remembering about Chloe's kinda sad, personally she's not really one of my favorite characters but she should be recognized anyway
@maymay5600
@maymay5600 3 жыл бұрын
yeahhhhhhhh, it's kinda concerning as well when she gonna find out that the charm given her wasn't from her mother and now you'll see her lose her shit
@ohifonlyx33
@ohifonlyx33 3 жыл бұрын
the moral of this episode? When you love someone communication is an important part of a relationship and while knowing the truth might be dangerous and scary, it will also set you free. Ladynoir, take notes.
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
🥺🥺
@annalopez4383
@annalopez4383 3 жыл бұрын
What you are saying is that Ladynoir should fight for their own relationship rather than the safety of everyone in this planet
@ohifonlyx33
@ohifonlyx33 3 жыл бұрын
@@annalopez4383 no. If you're referring to Char Blanc, that's a Gabriel issue that needs to be resolved. If your talking about the duplicate becoming distracted, well they already are. For a while trust meant being able to depend on each other in a battle and respecting each other's secret identities. That was Ladybug's idea of trust. Chat's idea of trust is being trusted with more information. And it's becoming clear that he is trying to earn a different kind of trust than what Ladybug already has given him. I'm not even saying he needs to know her identity. He just needs to know Ladybug is communicating with him.
@alonii.
@alonii. 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry this is kinda a sad comment but I laughed SO HARD
@bellamia4269
@bellamia4269 3 жыл бұрын
I literally have dreams about what is going to happen with miraculous ITS A PROBLEM!😩
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Same😭❤️
@viviennewellnessforlife
@viviennewellnessforlife 3 жыл бұрын
Omg me to like I dreamed Marrinette and Adrien revealed their identities I thought it was only me 😳
@cerisecerezacherry
@cerisecerezacherry 3 жыл бұрын
@@viviennewellnessforlife same I guess I watched too much miraculous
@viviennewellnessforlife
@viviennewellnessforlife 3 жыл бұрын
@@cerisecerezacherry yea I probably need a break from Miraculous 😒
@alonii.
@alonii. 3 жыл бұрын
No but same I had a dream that marinette and Adrien were at a pumpkin patch? And they had to transform but Marinette was clumsy around Adrien but not chat noir even tho she knew they were the same person- Ik dreams don’t make sense 😩
@uwu-b3rry
@uwu-b3rry 3 жыл бұрын
i loved this episode so much because it shows where the show is headed in this season
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@ALML_Miraculous
@ALML_Miraculous 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, when I saw the Cat Noir watching the moon in the ending card, the first thing that came into my mind was your video on symbolism of moon and Cat Blanc. 😅
@gabrielleduplessis7388
@gabrielleduplessis7388 3 жыл бұрын
A few things I noticed. 1st: How does this show make us react the same we did when we saw avengers end game: i reacted to nino releasing him from shadow moth’s control (still want to call him Hawkmoth) like steve rogers/captain America finally grabbing Thor’s hammer. Ahhhhhh! It was so epic. Is this show becoming our next MCU. I know this show may not be as good as Marvel but it is beginning to have the same feel. Complex themes, characters, emotions, storylines. 2: cat noir being in the corner (did not pick this up at first because of my many many emotions so thank you for that) gradually mirrors cat noir being in the dark grey secrion with hawkmoth in earlier seasons at the end of the theme song. 3: while many of us hate the musical episode, there is one scene that gets me to this day. When cat noir cataclysmed his photo of Adrien. He basically metaphorically and almost literally killed himself. That is dark and tragic. The fact he feels so alone that he has this self-hatred of himself. How does he get up in the morning and face life with never ending optimism. 4: for the first time ever, cat noir looked miserable when transforming. He usually is so excited and has this proud/excited face when he transforms. This time, he was just sad. I can’t imagine fighting tour best friend especially when he wants to literally kill his alter ego. Dang! 5: when he dropped the staff, I just could not believe it. Says so much about who he is. Lastly, why can’t Adrien and Nino both reveal their identities to each other and be like Alya and marionette. I wanted this reveal forever. It will strengthen Nino’s and Adrien’s bond. Imagine the fun they can have not just fighting together, but having fun as their alter egos. They can trust each other and release some of the tension.
@elinasakura
@elinasakura 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, now you’re perspective is making me go crazy because I didn’t realize that everyone is now keeping secrets between each other. And wow, I’m just now realizing that all four of them have an arc in the season (I’m just hoping Nino has as much appearance as Alya). Now I’m hoping that in the future, all four of them will realize each other’s identities and how much they hurt each other with their actions (except Cat Noir because he had a good reason that he couldn’t tell Ladybug that he knew everything because he heard it from Nino, who told Adrien). What’s funny, actually, is that out of everyone, Cat Noir is the only one whose holding secret for good reason, which is to keep his own identity a secret since only Adrien knows the information from Nino. The others, they’re holding the important informations a secret out of their own free wills. Though I won’t lie, I don’t know if Marinette knew Alya was gonna tell Nino, or Alya really did it behind her back, but we’ll probably find out in Wishmaster (episode 18).
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah! I forgot to mention that each one of them are keeping secrets however the only person to really get hurt/upset is Adrien since he can’t say anything about it. However the person who it can affect the most/ endanger is Ladybug since she’s unaware of what’s going on within her own team
@amandinegregoris120
@amandinegregoris120 3 жыл бұрын
You are right what you say I agree with you we will probably find out in wishmaker (épisode 18).
@just.me.4115
@just.me.4115 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the moon at the endcard has an other symbolism. His hidden feelings. His hidden anger.
@dew__drops7844
@dew__drops7844 3 жыл бұрын
Before any of you say anything- Chloe resisted Hawky. They actually broke free,
@gabriellacucarano1042
@gabriellacucarano1042 3 жыл бұрын
miraculous Mexico confirmed that there won't be a sandboy 2 and their won't be a Chat blanc 2
@owllenax
@owllenax 3 жыл бұрын
oh no...;-;
@yourlocalchloesimp
@yourlocalchloesimp 3 жыл бұрын
Then a one-sided reveal. I'm sure of it now.
@raikalaka
@raikalaka 3 жыл бұрын
Noooo DDD:
@gabriellacucarano1042
@gabriellacucarano1042 3 жыл бұрын
@Hi . wait I'm gonna try to find it
@gabriellacucarano1042
@gabriellacucarano1042 3 жыл бұрын
@Hi . I cant paste the link because I'm on my phone but if you go to miraculous Mexico twitter you will find somewhere in the comments.
@Ann-jy-bun
@Ann-jy-bun 3 жыл бұрын
I think as the miraculous fandom we should find a term that that can describe both sides of the heroes as one individual. For instance... Ladynette or Maribug??😅🤗
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Maribug is the term that most of the fandom use. Same for Adrichat lol😂💕
@Tae_3095
@Tae_3095 3 жыл бұрын
As everyone knows that they're going to be an episode of called "wishmaker", well I'm thinking that wishmaker might be Adrien akumatized, but I'm not sure since he is cat noir, if he was akumatized there would be no cat Noir. Also Nino wasn't the second person who rejected the akuma, Chloe was the first victim and then it was alya and then Nino.
@Ann-jy-bun
@Ann-jy-bun 3 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody who also remembers about Chloe 👑 🐝
@Tae_3095
@Tae_3095 3 жыл бұрын
Even if she wasn't in her villain form she still rejected it because she was kinda thinking positive. And what did the others do, they just let their negative emotions take over.
@Tae_3095
@Tae_3095 3 жыл бұрын
Right Anna
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Chloe RESISTED the akuma- she wasn’t in her villain form. Nino and Alya are the first people to ever *break out* of Hawkmoth’s control
@yourlocalchloesimp
@yourlocalchloesimp 3 жыл бұрын
@Hope for Aisha Not exactly "working for him" but I get what you mean.
@owllenax
@owllenax 3 жыл бұрын
Alya : do u trust me Marinette? Marinette : with every cell of my body _alya proceeds to tell nino she's still rena rouge_
@alonii.
@alonii. 3 жыл бұрын
If a one sided reveal happens I will cry myself to sleep every night.
@poijnve3912
@poijnve3912 3 жыл бұрын
what i find funny is that marinnete had a nigtmare with alya, where she betrayed her... meaning that she didn't trust her 100%. So it makes no sense that marinette trust her with her secret identity... even further more! this episode confirmed to us that Marinette's doubts on alya were 100% deserved! because she betrayed her at the end, choosing nino over Paris! yet Marinette won't trust chat, the person that trusts her to the point of self-sacrifices... and btw as the new guardian, LB should know chat identity! so it makes no sense that this whole season didn't start with them knowing each other identity!
@maymay5600
@maymay5600 3 жыл бұрын
nah, fuck that, of course i would choose my friend or mate over the city you fucking dunce? if she didn't do that, you think they would still be in a relationship by now? fam, don't allow friends to mingle in your love life, because that's exactly what was going on...like think about it, how WOULD YOU feel someone you loved was keeping a very big big secret from you and strain on your relationship is on thin ice? she didn't betray marientte at all, she would betraying her trust in her and nino's relationship and i am taking everything with a grain of salt, because marientte is getting on my damn nerves
@poijnve3912
@poijnve3912 3 жыл бұрын
@@maymay5600 bitch, you do forget that nino can't even fucking keep a secret? alya told nino that marinette likes adrian, he fucking nearly told him! alya know that nino can't keep a fucking secret! so Sentibubbly is pointless?? so your friend is more important that your whole family? even that your own younger brother and sister? dam dude you have a really fucking issue if you will choose a lay over your 5 years younger sisters! that deepens on the secret, did you forgoted that they were super heroes? a simple "I can't tell you for your safety but it's nothing that would change our relationship" wont be enough? if that person meand more than again your own fucking younger sisters, i would expect more trusth between you and him/her... he/she is the most important person for you, at least you could trust her/him right? or that it's even fucking beyond you realm of possibilities?
@Soomi.kk1
@Soomi.kk1 3 жыл бұрын
Rocketear was amazing but my heart broke when I saw adrien/cat noir and nino miserable 🥺💔💕💖
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Same! 🥺💕
@Soomi.kk1
@Soomi.kk1 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCartoonHotspot even tho we knew their doing this on purpose
@StrawberrySketchess
@StrawberrySketchess 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like it really did show Chat Noir giving up on Ladybug. I think that will lead him to liking Marinette since he could probably depend on her more than he can with Ladybug at this point. They really do need to have eachothers backs if they want to win like you said! So, this will probably end with Cat Noir being akumatized again, Chat Noir getting really angry with Ladybug/agrument, or (the one I think will happen) The love square turning to where Adrien/Chat Noir likes Marinette since she is more dependable than Ladybug! anyway from this, we will get a reveal!
@amandinegregoris120
@amandinegregoris120 3 жыл бұрын
Oh boy that will taking me in shock.
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Hooo boy either way we’re in for an angsty ride😭🥺💕
@dew__drops7844
@dew__drops7844 3 жыл бұрын
While Nino blurting out identities and stuff was wrong, at least it proved useful and juicy for plot
@aquariusrising8314
@aquariusrising8314 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the Jurassic Park reference when what's his face (can't remember his name lol) is like " sell them to me! We'll make a theme park with them and make a fortune" 😂😂
@terrihuynh2855
@terrihuynh2855 3 жыл бұрын
I love how LB says "I don't knownwhat cat noir said either but I trust him" just before they showed the projector. I feel.like LB sees Cat as hers more then a partner, not showing jealousy this time but definitely showing she likes him. I'm so excited for the rest of the season!!!
@itzspinika8225
@itzspinika8225 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the bright side.. at least Adrien gets to go on patrol with LB now
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
But what if he starts acting cold and distanced during their patrols?🥺
@itzspinika8225
@itzspinika8225 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCartoonHotspot I know they're teenagers but communication is something that needs to be learned lmao
@amandinegregoris120
@amandinegregoris120 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes it's that.
@alonii.
@alonii. 3 жыл бұрын
My theory for the episode wishmaker: It’s Adrien’s birthday and Adrien is so depressed abt everything and at his party wayam (idk how to spell his name ) but heals him what’s wrong and Adrien denies nothing is wrong but he can still definitely tell something is. Wayam gets akumatzed to wishmaker because he is so down and feels like Adrien doesn’t trust him. Just a thought idk tho
@chainuser7180
@chainuser7180 3 жыл бұрын
I thought when alya said "do you trust me" that mari said yes because she knew alya was gonna tell nino?
@amandinegregoris120
@amandinegregoris120 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it's that and you are right what you say Chain User.
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think so 😭
@annalopez4383
@annalopez4383 3 жыл бұрын
No, because then Ayla would have said "do you trust NINO?" then Marinette would have said "yes"
@matildalawson4811
@matildalawson4811 3 жыл бұрын
I just had a thought- What if in the next episode's end card we see cat noir looking at the moon again but he looks a bit sadder and the moon is cracking slightly. Then that carries on until the episode/episode before he snaps and the moon is fully destroyed , perhaps in the same way as in Chat Blanc, symbolising his akumatization. Or because the moon symbolises Marinette, maybe just before the moon is fully destroyed we have an episode where she's the one who saves him from being akumatized. And then in that episode's end card she and cat noir are hugging with an intact, shining moon above them?? If that marichat does happen it could also cause some adrienette development from adrien's side (him starting to fall in love with her) Damn I want this to happen now 😂
@hail2472
@hail2472 3 жыл бұрын
This season is so intense and it's still a show for kids ;-;
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ArtisticAlly123
@ArtisticAlly123 3 жыл бұрын
I think they’re turning it into a teen show
@sunfishdinner
@sunfishdinner 3 жыл бұрын
They are really going all in after backtracking most of what happened in season 3. I love it, more plot is what this season really needed.
@celesteshearts
@celesteshearts 3 жыл бұрын
Unrelated but I predicted that Nino would reject the akuma in Rocketear
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
And you were right!🥰
@gabrielleduplessis7388
@gabrielleduplessis7388 3 жыл бұрын
Here is my Nino post. 1: lived the film noir detective thing. 2: i felt so bad for him. I observed what happens with adultery and ai cannot blame him for being hurt when he thought there was something going on. I am not saying kill someone for it, but I can see how someone can go that place when they feel that betrayed. 3: i love that alya and Nino have an honest and mature relationship. It os one of the healthiest on this show. No person or couple is perfect. People make mistakes. 4: while there are mixed reactions to Nino revealing Alya’s identity, I am hlad he did. He held this in for a year and he was going through a rough time and needed his best friend. It is a parallel to marionette telling Alya. Why is Marionette being praised for it (no offense, love you Marionette) while some hate Nino for it. Weird double standard. Different pressures and different situations, but same result. Adrien needed to hear this. Now he knows why rena rouge and ladybug are so close. I feel so bad that he is left out if literally everything. I get the purpose but why dump almost all of the bad stuff onto him. At least he knows Nino can confide and and trust him when many people don’t which is a sad sad shame. 5: I am so shocked that Nino went to the bad place trying to kill someone. No longer a kid’s show people. It may never have been, bit now it is getting too dark for kids. All in all, if you made it this far, for people who disagree with me on Nino, give him break. He is human and I do not think he deserves the hate.
@maryshashaw2895
@maryshashaw2895 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sort of glad Nino did what he did with identity because at least adrien didn’t tell Nino about himself like I thought chat is safe but I do think funny enough adrien will get very upset and talk to Mari
@mregghead4666
@mregghead4666 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty indifferent about this ep, and nino kinda ruined his reputation in my opinion, but I do believe that this episode is contributing to future ones. With the knowledge that wishmaker comes after this, it could be an opportunity for that argument that we expect, and we might not see cat blanc after all. We could have cat bring it up after battle only for lb to explain that it's not safe for them to reveal there identities and not explain why, leading cat noir to getting akumatized. *I also would like to think that wishmakers power would be to make his own wishes come true or something to that extent
@bellamia4269
@bellamia4269 3 жыл бұрын
Our poor kitty😢😭
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
🥺
@drivevengeful
@drivevengeful 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still sticking with my theory. CN will reveal his identity to LB only because he is given up his power. Before she can respond he will run off. Then episodes after that will be Adrien no longer and school
@janiyahlynn4714
@janiyahlynn4714 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. It would be a great plot point for S5 episodes.
@annalopez4383
@annalopez4383 3 жыл бұрын
OMG! I haven't thought of that little detail! I remember in the new york special how Adrien gave back his miraculous to ladybug without revealing himself, that's why he hoped he would be CN again. But, now it's different he lost faith in LB therefore makes sense he finally wants to end it for good, therefore revealing himself.
@random8163
@random8163 3 жыл бұрын
AHHHH SUPER EXCITED!!!
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
🥰💕
@hannahk1538
@hannahk1538 3 жыл бұрын
I love ur channel 💗
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!❤️❤️
@miracle_kay6605
@miracle_kay6605 3 жыл бұрын
I can't really think straight right now from the episode and I watched it yesterday and I'm still in shock- I'm not really disappointed in Nino because he was blinded by love and was heart broken and maybe he just couldn't keep his secret in maybe Nino is sick of the lies and secrets also!? For Alya I fill like Marinette is just so used to lying she thinks that's the only thing to help save people Hawkmoth is right love and lies don't mix well together and I also do believe Chat Noir is gonna have a breaking point and maybe It will lead to Chat Blanc 2.0 but I don't really think so I mean I would love for Chat Blanc to come back but I think this is leading into something bigger than we can ever imagine maybe episode 100 or something but all I know is Season 4 is gonna be the best season yet so far and can't wait for more to come Love your theories!! 😄💕
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! And thanks!❤️❤️
@miracle_kay6605
@miracle_kay6605 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCartoonHotspot yes your like my favorite KZbinr ever 💖♥i really appreciate all you do for us!!
@auburnturner3031
@auburnturner3031 3 жыл бұрын
I think Adrian gonna start struggling with all the secrets and end up telling nino (maybe) -- at the same time I feel like Adrian will want and start to tell nino but struggle w/trusting him bc of him telling his and alyas secrets 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️
@mauliharford4167
@mauliharford4167 3 жыл бұрын
ok i know how people can think that chat noir is looking at the moon but he’s not it’s just a bubble because you have to look at the whole picture if you only look at chat noir’s side then yes it does look like the moon
@kathi9458
@kathi9458 3 жыл бұрын
5:25 No third person. Everyone always forgets about Chloe. In the episode "miracular" hawk moth akumatizes Chloe but she breaks free because she wants to be a hero and not a villain ....at least that was Chloe before they destroyed her charakter development and redemption ark
@mymakeupnonsense
@mymakeupnonsense 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how when the characters are too perfect they are Mary Sues but if they have flaws they get copious amounts of slander. Like y’all what do you want? 😅
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly😭
@MrZakiaashraf
@MrZakiaashraf 3 жыл бұрын
Fr 😭
@strongfish9198
@strongfish9198 3 жыл бұрын
Shout out to Alya tho for finally saying what we all wanted to hear being recognized by the characters of the show: "everyone talks about ladybug, but cat noir is an amazing, brave funny super hero too!" LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
@catblancxprincessjustice
@catblancxprincessjustice 3 жыл бұрын
Oooh love the title 🙈
@cherryblossom2897
@cherryblossom2897 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Cat Blanc x Princess Justice. I am a big fan of you.
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks gurl!🥰💓💓
@cherryblossom2897
@cherryblossom2897 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCartoonHotspot Do you have any social media account.
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
@@cherryblossom2897 I have an Instagram! @thecartoonhotspot
@cherryblossom2897
@cherryblossom2897 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCartoonHotspot did you see the theories.
@dinosaur7775
@dinosaur7775 3 жыл бұрын
Me when season 4 came out: oooooh a new season i really do hope nothing bad happens *secrets and lies* NOOOOOO *truth comes out* FUUUUU- *gang of secrets come out * *optygami comes out* *sentibubler and rocketeer comes out* me: THIS SEASON CAT GET ANY WORSE 😭😭😭😭
@HazbinCovenWitch
@HazbinCovenWitch 3 жыл бұрын
Then Thomas be like: "That's where you're wrong, kiddo!" 😅😭
@dreaminganimals89
@dreaminganimals89 3 жыл бұрын
YES!! I was really disappointed in Alya for telling Nino esp after asking Mari if she trusts her. Like REALLY?? I thought it was unfair to Mari and Adrien who've had to keep their identity under wraps for so long and lie to everyone and she couldnt do the same? I get not wanting to lie and keep secrets but girlie you have to understand you're in a completely different position now - knows who LB is and can access the miracle box. Nino revealing his identity was very reckless but it was even worse bc he revealed Alya's as well. Can't say I was too happy about this :/ There seems to be a domino effect resulting from Mari revealing her identity (although I dont blame her for doing it, my poor girl was under far too much pressure). Like you said, it isn't good that LB doesn't know about all the identity reveals that have happened -- rmb Nathalie (or was it SM) said she'll slip up one day + that spoiler about SM realising that LB is always careful and doesnt make mistakes...well this might just be the mistake SM needs 👀👀👀 ALSO JUSTICE FOR MY POOR KITTY 😭😭
@Zz15861
@Zz15861 3 жыл бұрын
This is making my heart tear apart! I have a theory. So remember in Gang of Secrets where Mari was breaking and feeling like she had no one to talk to, she told Alya that she's Ladybug and they've become a lot closer now. I'm not saying the same thing will happen to Chat, but maybe he loses trust in Ladybug and possibly stops having feelings for her. He might start to visit Marinette for advice or to take his mind off things and Ladybug and he may grow feelings for her so maybe we can see Marichat from this angle if you think about it in my point of view.
@symphonyloughlin2131
@symphonyloughlin2131 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe when all this causes cat blanc 2.0, marinette uses the bunny miraculous to time travel and she stops herself from telling alya her secret bc she clearly can't trust her as much as she originally thought she could
@j-5105
@j-5105 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, Ladynoir breaking apart will only lead to it's reunion ten times stronger than before. This is, in one way good for the LadyNoir ship. Don't think that LadyNoir and Adrienette are the same. Two people, each with a different persona make up their respective ship. LadyNoir is a ship between the true Adrien and confident Marinette whereas Adrienette is the ship between oblivious Adrien and shy Marinette. As I was saying, if LadyNoir starts to break away, it may seem bad at first, but in the end, a certain factor plays an important role: Realization. In Marinette's case, she needs to realize that she can't take the burden all by herself and she can use Cat Noir to help her lift some of the burden off her shoulders. By pushing Cat Noir further and further into the dark, she will only break their relationship away as crime-fighting partners. Soon enough, Cat Noir stops putting his trust into Ladybug by telling her that keeping secrets from him will not help their situation any less. He leaves her and goes his own way, no longer working alongside Ladybug. I actually want something like this to happen so that Marinette has to realize that she is hurting Cat Noir by lying to him and by keeping him in the dark all the time. Once she does so, she searches for Cat Noir and tells him everything, her identity, the truth, everything that has secretly happened up until now. I believe better teamwork can happen if they are fully aware of the situation. RIght now, as you said, it's all a mess and it's the perfect thing for Hawkmoth to use for his own advantage. I can't wait to see where all this ends up.
@alonii.
@alonii. 3 жыл бұрын
That’s very true, it can be very helpful for the ladynoir ship because once they loose each other, it’s like a part of them was taken away.
@ahmedshehataash
@ahmedshehataash 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone wanting chat blanch 2.0 and I used too but after knowing people can break out of akumatization I now want princess justice 😃 Also great video as always 💙💙 Also sorry if my English is bad👉👈
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
We can have both🤪
@ahmedshehataash
@ahmedshehataash 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCartoonHotspot Well we just hope that Tomas agree to that because that just seems illegal😂
@junpie8861
@junpie8861 3 жыл бұрын
i kinda hope that marinette gets akumatized because of Alya telling Nino that shes still Rena rouge, or cat noir gets akumatized because of ladybug and her leaving him in the dark. I also think that alya will DEFINITELY tell Nino that marinettes ladybug
@kerrygligorovic9758
@kerrygligorovic9758 3 жыл бұрын
I'm perdicting that in Season 4 finale Ladybug and Cat Noir will decided at last to finally reveal each other's identity which Adrien could put his mind at rest.
@alonii.
@alonii. 3 жыл бұрын
Marinette thinks chat blanc happened bc thei identities were revealed. But no, hawkmothoth found out and used his own son and made his get akumatized.
@dew__drops7844
@dew__drops7844 3 жыл бұрын
Adrien really has an ego tho 😭😭😂 “what if I made her fall in love with me?” Like boi you’re amazing, but no-
@kerropi7710
@kerropi7710 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to rant :> tehee have a nice day! Although the previous guardian, master fu, told them not to reveal their identities is it that bad that Marinette and Adrian cant know each other's identities? Think about it, the alibis and excuses they could come up with to fill in each other when an Akuma appears. [of course, Nino and Alya should also know since the four of them know a secret from one or the other, but that's for another discussion]. Knowing their identities could help both of them come up with more detailed plans. Chat can help with Ladybug's responsibilities as a hero and as a civilian. It also means more time to be together. They could be more comfortable with one another and have less time doubting each other. It doesn't mean that they have to reveal themselves to Hawkmoth. Like Hawkmoth [Gabriel] and Mayura [Nathalie], they don't reveal themselves to their enemy. What I'm suggesting is that if they reveal themselves, wouldn't it be more rational to have them keeping tabs on each other without even being suspicious. Another, now that master fu is out of their circle, wouldn't it be better if they reveal their secrets to each other. Think about the potions they would use, master fu was strict to the kwamis about knowing the ingredients to power so if Marinette gave Adrian the potions he needed, aren't they transformed as Chat Noir? and that the kwamis could [possibly] hear them. What if one of them happened to get captured? It'll be over especially now that Gabriel is mixing his own potions. I think that master fu's ideology is true but is it not too traditional? I'm not opposing him because I get his point [especially the chat blanc episode I think Marinette was and has always been scared of happening that again] yet, I also want to think outside that box. Just like what master fu said, there is a right time for everything. Ever since season 2, chat noir has become frustrated about knowing nothing. Isn't it the right time for Ladybug to confront Chat? For so long, Marinette had to carry her duties simultaneously, it's only a matter of time before she crumbles. Just as master fu revealed himself to Marinette, wouldn't it be better for her partner to know too? Without firmer and wiser support, it is hard to control everything under her wing. This only adds to the reason why she should talk about her alter ego with her partner. Due to frustrations from both of them, one way or another, someone would give in and reveal themselves. The most perceivable problem is that Hawkmoth knows that Ladybug is the new guardian. If people know Marinette's secret then she'll be in grave danger just as the others. If Adrien knows his lady's identification, wouldn't he be more protective than he is? It could lead to a misunderstanding of how he's too protective and how Mari's too carefree. If that happens, something big might happen to upset the timeline causing Bunnix to make an appearance once again. The most probable action to take is careful talks and walks about everything considering that most of the akumatized people do not have the charm to protect themselves from hawkmoth. Now and then, it would be much harder to grasp the It's risky but revealing their identities could possibly help Marinette for the greater good. Every action has an equal reaction, they must be ready for the fire back if they ever revealed themselves to one another.
@Life_W_Sarah
@Life_W_Sarah 3 жыл бұрын
I swear these episodes keep getting better and better
@lbcnforlifelb9479
@lbcnforlifelb9479 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for this video🥺✨
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
🥰💕
@clarechaddon2545
@clarechaddon2545 3 жыл бұрын
Poor Nino was in a very dark place this episode.
@halcyon2315
@halcyon2315 3 жыл бұрын
I had a feeling that Cat noir's breaking point is coming and Cat blanc will be back. Its just weird on the Sentibubbler ep, where Cat blanc showed up on Mari's nightmare, I mean its true that one of Mari's nightmare is cat blanc but its just weird that it showed up out of no where. Cat noir is having doubts, and Ladybug's mental state is getting worse because of her new role and im overwhelmed , there's alot of things i should worry about, but here i am getting worried over a kid's show.
@anamarsel9615
@anamarsel9615 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this episode🥰
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Same! It’s my favourite episode so far along with Gang of Secrets!🥰
@venomxo8325
@venomxo8325 2 жыл бұрын
It's never too easy to keep secrets, some of us just can't hold it any longer and everyone is eager to know what they are.
@itsbrookeok
@itsbrookeok 3 жыл бұрын
i love marinette and alya but i think marinette made a mistake telling alya that she’s ladybug. because now marinette and alya are becoming closer and closer because marinette is telling her all of these things, but chat noir, who’s supposed to be her partner, is being left out of everything and treated like he’s one of the side superheroes. and now chat’s getting upset because he’s finding out that nino and alya know each other’s identities and that ladybug’s basically fine with it, and he’s starting to see rena and ladybug getting closer and fighting battles without him. it’s only a matter of time until chat finds out that rena knows ladybug’s identity and he’ll just blow up. he’ll feel betrayed and hurt saying “you told rena your identity but not me, your own partner who’s been beside you and there for you since the very beginning? and now you’re not telling me things and leaving me out of everything. i thought you trusted me. i thought we were a team. it was supposed to be just me and you against the world.” and then he’ll probably say “well, why don’t you have rena be your partner instead. you clearly don’t need me anymore.” and he’ll probably get akumatized into chat blanc again. which is like the worst thing that could happen. he’s capable of destroying literally everything lol.
@skrunklenut
@skrunklenut 3 жыл бұрын
THE FACT THAT EVEN SHADOWMOTH METUONED IT IS A HUGGEEE CLUE
@toogayforyourdrama4606
@toogayforyourdrama4606 3 жыл бұрын
I don't get one thing tho. Since Mari said "I trust you" to Alya she indirectly permitted her to tell Nino since Alya said "I'm gonna fix this" So I feel like Mari was OK with that, which would cause even more strain on Ladynoir. THIS IS KILLING ME.
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
But Alya didn’t say *what* she’ll do to "fix" it. They made an agreement that nobody can know Alya is still Rena. As far as I’m aware, they didn’t have any conversation where Marinette gave permission to Alya to tell Nino
@toogayforyourdrama4606
@toogayforyourdrama4606 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCartoonHotspot true but I think it was kind of implied....I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
@morganbrooksfield1575
@morganbrooksfield1575 3 жыл бұрын
We need Ladybug to tell catnoir about Rena and we need cat noir to confront Ladybug about Rena and carapace knowing their identities
@itz_Miraculously_Vedika
@itz_Miraculously_Vedika 3 жыл бұрын
Gosh- I really did NOT notice the moon in the endscreen until I saw this! Btw congratz on 7.02K subscribers! 😆🥳
@meharamarasinghe9965
@meharamarasinghe9965 3 жыл бұрын
Hey it was confirmed that Chatnoir isn't going to get akumatized so maybe ladybug is going to reveal everything anytime sooner.
@jackychen8143
@jackychen8143 3 жыл бұрын
i knew there was something of with the end scene of "Lies" where Lady Bug and Chat Noir telling eachother that they have secrets and reasons and tht they have to eachother sometimes, but still say that they trust eachother completely, IS THIS FORESHADOWING?!
@leonecore
@leonecore 3 жыл бұрын
i absolutely adore your accent 😭💕 and booooy this episode fire
@TheCartoonHotspot
@TheCartoonHotspot 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😭❤️ and yesss this episode was just something else😭
@paramjitsarkar6414
@paramjitsarkar6414 3 жыл бұрын
Season 4 has been the most I mean the MOST story filled season I have ever seen in miraculous ladybug, like every episode has been really significant. The other seasons are just them fighting akumatized and amokized villains for most episodes except ones where new miraculous holders are introduced or last episodes of each season.
@ashleenms
@ashleenms 3 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for him😭😫!!!!
@amandinegregoris120
@amandinegregoris120 3 жыл бұрын
Me too eighter I feel bad for cat noir.
@amandinegregoris120
@amandinegregoris120 3 жыл бұрын
😖😿
@PaigeRobins-ky4qc
@PaigeRobins-ky4qc 10 ай бұрын
I love how this episode show how keeping secrets can mean to someone.💜🐈‍⬛🐞🐢🦊
@Caet-lk6om
@Caet-lk6om 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just so glad the episodes in this season focus less on the fights and more on the stories and lives of our characters when they are not transformed. Like idk if anyone already talked about it but the akuma fights feel/are definitely shorter. Which is one reason why I love this episode so much.
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