GAIJIN NERFED THE F-15E ALREADY...

[@ThePointlessBox_]

US mains when they have to stop flying the best plane in the game and settle for the best plane in the game

[@basicthunder]

this cracked me up 😂

[@bubblesofthecoast6393]

Man if only I had the best plane in the game. Currently stuck with some of the best planes instead as I grind the Aardvark right before the best plane

[@royalty9025]

As a usa main i prefer the nerf nobody likes fighting planes moving mach 2

[@janomomo153]

But have you considered SPAA? Checkmate commie

[@adrianfolstad4925]

Best is never good enough apparently. After nerfs it’s still literally perfect.

[@Frogg-YT]

Oh boy i sure hate the best plane getting nerfed into the best plane

[@SeekerHead]

😭😭😭

[@ckingc05]

Gaijin “conveniently” waiting till after people GE’d it to nerf it

[@r3tr0a82]

Sounds like a skill issue

[@Archmagos_Faber]

even after two dev servers, its not like they did not have time. such a greedy company

[@TurkeyyGravyy]

People are idiots 😂😂

[@CecilioSprayetti]

I expected them to at least wait a week to nerf it at least they did it now because i was about to spend 3 days grinding it but decided id wait for the inevitable nerf to see if its still worth it after

[@DzinkyDzink]

Predators is what they are.

[@GeneralLee2000]

HAHAHA WE SO CALLED THIS

[@SeekerHead]

Gaijins pretty predictable

[@delirious3911]

Literally not even 24 hrs 😭

[@batlax18]

Gotta let everyone GE it before nerfing yk?

[@guvyygvuhh298]

It was very obvious

[@sosa7069]

pre nerf f15e was like fighting a dam decpticon flying around at mach 2😂

[@elnewbie2611]

Literally it became the F-104 at 10.7-11.00

[@yourlocalasleeponioperativ4095]

Top tier players when they have to fight literally starscream

[@batlax18]

The playerbase when they have the best plane in the game ripped away from them and instead get given the best plane in the game

[@BlackBustnMoves]

Gaijin: We can't have this plane be too strong, let's nerf it after everybody bought it with GE Playerbase: Then why did you introduce an OP flight model? Gaijin: .....

[@jenniferdingus5309]

What do you mean bought it with ge like a squadron??

[@madcat3.0]

@@jenniferdingus5309 you can ge tech tree vehicles, its just super expensive

[@jenniferdingus5309]

@@madcat3.0yea but how is it like squadrons vehicles or is it convertible rp??

[@rasskhovp528]

not everybody, just some impulsive people

[@BlackBustnMoves]

@@jenniferdingus5309 almost every F-15E or Su-34 that you saw on patch day was purchased by exchanging GE for research points. This is incredibly expensive... but as you can see, there are a lot of people who do this every patch just to fly the new vehicle before everyone else.

[@sxshi9984]

Idk how it wasn’t nerfed in the dev server. The fact that it got in the live server is crazy

[@austinbixler8662]

Is so people wil spend more money to get the good jet then they need it after people put their resources to it

[@explosivecommando9100]

True ​@@austinbixler8662

[@Brzzzyexe]

why would a game that would make more money if they had something overpowered so that more people would just buy it with real money when it's op and then nerf it after, what a hard question to answer...

[@sxshi9984]

@@Brzzzyexe 🤔 This is a truly hard question

[@sxshi9984]

@@austinbixler8662 Oh, Okay

[@markusplotz2259]

People who flew it in DCS understand that a nerf was already needed.

[@ВячеславФролов-д7я]

Indeed, human aircraft don't fly like this thing on the release

[@GrossDeutschland100]

agreed

[@joshharris2793]

Yeah not even close, the war thunder f15e is a ufo😂

[@DrClef_1]

I like how comments were like "I KNEW IT WE PREDICTED THIS", yeah it was so obvious even 4 year old jimmy could see it. The most overpowered plane ever added gets nerfed who could have seen that coming 😱

[@specc_s1452]

Well it's American, and they rarely touch anything negatively in the US because there is an uproar or baby whines.

[@DrClef_1]

@@specc_s1452 yeah thats true this is new, nerf american vehicle how dare they

[@Brzzzyexe]

@@specc_s1452 russia had the most one sided fox-1 in the game for like 2 and a half years with literally zero reason to of been added because the r-27r was the aim-7f/m's contemporary

[@Dontcare-qx6os]

@@specc_s1452lmfao you’re entire comment history is you complaining about US mains. Calling us mains babies is hilarious. Look at germany they create like a 1000 reddit posts every time a new update comes out and they don’t get their precious PZH2000. Look at Russian players. They cried for days and ARE ACTIVELY STILL crying about getting there auto loader’s modeled . Cope harder lmfao.

[@flynntaggart8549]

"The most overpowered plane ever added" *you must be new here.*

[@Marco-cg7fb]

im still a strong believer of the J10's performance, the 85 degree radar locks with the fastest radar in the game. and F16 like flight performance with 8 missiles, just unbeatable

[@interpl6089]

J10 is very good...but i don't see them very often.

[@aleski6506]

everyone stopped talking about it already even though it's still the number one best dogfighter in the game

[@AnotherHaloGamer]

China has F16s, Mirage 2000, J-11 and I just bought the J7D a few days ago 💀

[@MrBlueBurd0451]

Sadly, it's absolutely hideous, probably the ugliest modern jet fighter in the world.

[@6uis1948]

a decent f-16 pilot can easily win a dogfight against it

[@gavincross5719]

Wasn’t it totally breaking the laws of physics before? Like, totally different from its IRL equivalent?

[@kennybewley4420]

You mean like the Su-34 fully laden doing 180s to shoot people out of the sky?

[@levoderso7469]

@@kennybewley4420 whatabouttism at its finest

[@sotilaskarkuri]

@@kennybewley4420 which is completely useless because it doesnt get HMD

[@cookiecracker2]

breaking the laws of physics is what warthunder does on a daily basis

[@ReapersKid07]

​@@sotilaskarkuri I mean you do get the WTC sized lock box which to an extent acts like an HMD

[@XboxProdigy1]

If it’s live I’ve hardly noticed a major difference. The plane is still completely insane

[@SeekerHead]

It’s noticeable, but still a bit over tuned I think

[@lthotpocket8259]

It is live, and i've noticed a HUGE difference. I rarely reach mach 2 in a normal match now.

[@cagingskies9584]

I ran a few tests with the F15I before and after the nerf, and from 0 to Mach 2 it's only around 15-20 seconds slower. This means it's still around 30-45 seconds faster than the F15C to Mach 2, and about a minute and a half faster than the SU27SM. It gets quite noticeable afterwards in how quick it gets to Mach 2.5. However it's still somehow managing to nearly sustain 9Gs without much energy bleed once at those high speeds. Bottom line is that it's gone from being the best jet for Air RB by a significant margin, to being.... still the best jet for Air RB by a significant margin. It's so Flankover :(

[@lthotpocket8259]

@@cagingskies9584 it doesn't reach Mach 2.5 at all anymore. Not with a combat load and decent fuel levels. With 8 missiles and only 9 minutes of fuel, it will barely reach Mach 2.3 at 12km. Like I said, the 15e(don't have the I) in a normal match will rarely reach Mach 2. Though i do agree it's gone from the best jet to.... the best jet. All in saying is there is a VERY noticeable difference

[@cagingskies9584]

@@lthotpocket8259 I was running my tests with a completely clean airframe, so I reckon that's why I'm getting to a higher speed. This is outside my realm of certainty, but I don't *think* the F15E should be able to hit Mach 2.5 in anything but a clean configuration anyways, so that's probably for the best.

[@SirCabooseCCCP]

Atleast your jet wasnt nerfed on the dev server then like every single russian plane since apex predators!!!

[@interpl6089]

Still insanely OP compared to the trash Su-27SM.

[@joshharris2793]

It’s insanely op compared to everything still

[@k1apollo693]

Gajin: Alright we have the f15e nerf ready so when the updates comes out we will be fast Gajin Employee 2 months after update. Should we start modeling the 2s38 breach properly? Gajin: Shut up we got another 6 months. We can’t risk making Russia players egos reducing.

[@arcroyal1258]

Thank christ

[@kevinl2482]

Man why are there actually people who think this is an unrealistic nerf and the F-15E actually could fly Mach 2.3 at 10,000 meters while accelerating in a full pull turn.

[@judgement4934]

US mains. All I can say

[@mattcooper6591]

Just as I was close to grinding it out and now I can’t go hyper sonic. It’s all I wanted for Christmas

[@guvyygvuhh298]

American propaganda is real

[@kattkatt6961]

but but but but uhhhh F-15 BEST JET EVER! It could like got MACH 33 and uhhhhh could pull 30gs and uh ub uh u h uh..... US mains at their finest...I watched an F-14B and an F-16C lose a 2v1 to an F-20 (lvl 30 account) and let him pull clear away from them....I wonder how such people reach top tier.

[@guvyygvuhh298]

@@kattkatt6961 Ex F4S base bombers, dont expect them to know how to dogfight or BVR

[@DaOideRassl]

I think its sad that my favourite irl plane gets nerfed but it's definitely fair

[@specc_s1452]

Well it's closer to your favourite plane irl now

[@DaOideRassl]

@specc_s1452 true

[@lukro.]

but they refuse to drop the su39 down to 10.7 because it is subsonic at 11.7

[@GhostNinja987]

This didn't effect me, still the greatest plane I've flown

[@zeta4687]

that thrust to weight ratio is still meta of meta

[@rlrl2011]

"What it should have" i mean.. are we talking about the game or the plane? Cause that statement right there my man, will trigger more leaks... lol

[@Archmagos_Faber]

of course only after people spent golden eagles to get it, oh the greed

[@KingOfTheCrabz]

If your stupid enough to GE a brand new vehicle you know is gonna over preform and are shocked when it gets nerfed, you deserve it lmao

[@WaffleKite1]

Yes like why ge a plane that you know is busted. Its like buying a house on fire!

[@CarolusR3x]

You dare to wear the portrait of Frederick the Great while complaining about being outdone by the likes of Gaijin?

[@jenniferdingus5309]

How are people buying it with ge??

[@Archmagos_Faber]

@@KingOfTheCrabz I am not surprised nor did I spend golden eagles on it, this is not the issue. gaijin release a broken op plane the ruins everyone else's fun for a quick buck and it just gross.

[@AssassinoGioco]

Good, yesterday was crazy... I ended up playing my Phantom II's.

[@needo8520]

just started playing this game two weeks ago to unlock the f15. it's my favorite 4th gen fighter.

[@dominic412]

see you in 5 years lol

[@justinchan6594]

I started playing almost 2 years ago from scratch to get the F-14A. I just hit rank 7 with the first F4 Phantom. Now there’s the F-14 B lol. But I’m also spading and filling out my lineup at every BR rank too so that’s why.

[@thejhonnie]

this is both sad and wholesome

[@needo8520]

@@dominic412 I'm on the f5e right now and having fun with that should get to the f15 in about a week

[@ryanspell]

The problem is it just won't do what it's supposed to be able to. It can't even get close to its supposed top speed. With an empty load out and low fuel it will barely break 1600mph the most I've seen is 1604mph. I have no problem with nerfing it but when you make it slower change the status card because it's just lying when it's listed at 1668. Same as the F15c.

[@sometoastxd]

This thing shouldn't even be able to cruise to mach 2 with the wing pylons because of the drag so good change

[@mr.z413]

Its still the fastest jetXD From around 22 secs it takes around 33 secs to accelerate up to mach 2 if I am not mistaken. Correct me if im wrong

[@SeekerHead]

Feels the fastest still to me yes. Maybe the F111F could be faster?

[@mr.z413]

@ didn’t think of F111F. Good catch

[@jettblack9696]

My dad flew f-15c and he said before they got the 229 engines and the e already had them in a straight level flight the difference in performance was not very noticeable

[@annguyenlehoang7779]

so they buff the f15e too much to please US main in game

[@Panuch412]

Not that changing a planes FM days after the update is anything new, nor are new bugs. But when are we going to hold the devs accountable to release a polished product, without being delayed 3-4 weeks just to still need FM changes and bugs in the game. Like Seek said, they seem to use the information gained from the dev server very inefficiently, and the changes dont always come before the update comes, which makes absolutely no sense.

[@adrianfolstad4925]

some US mains still tryna defend how it was, they just cant live with a plane thats simply best in the game, they need op shit

[@exhausting_thoughts]

Same could be said by russian tankies that wanted its fancy R-77 to overperform like the R-27ER, but come on, it's way easier to just earn some ez likes and gratification on the generic complain, it really shows.

[@LTFP-fw3it]

where are these American mains saying this your fighting ghosts dude

[@InterstellarTaco]

This thing is a complete menace in Ground RB

[@WordBearer48]

I wouldnt mind the f 15e as it was if they would remove the nerf to russian top tier air and give us better missiles.

[@huafu7639]

Bruh I brought a tailsman for F15I last day and finished stock grind in 3 or 4 hours. Honestly it was really much op before nerfed, you can just flew to a much much higher alt and speed when the other planes are still climbing. But in GRB, western jets are really unplayable after the nerf on their RWRs, USSR with pantsir and su34 just could smash the top tier GRB, and they never get a huge nerf

[@mad_man_savage452]

So glad I haven’t spent ge on this at all the only people mad are the ones who spent ge to get it and for me I have the f15c already so I’m not really worried about the nerf

[@michaelfishbeck384]

Spot on with the "turkey feathers", they are a maintenance nightmare, but in Air Arcade....Bahahahahahaha!!!!!...who cares about maintenance.

[@martinzhang5533]

The flight perf envelope was completely out of a realistic shape before the nerf so this was obviously coming.

[@cola-warthunder]

>nerfed >still mach 1.7 when by the time he's shooting missiles

[@monke25624]

Imo this is the perfect F-15E, this nerf was needed but hopefully Gaijin doesn't nerf it more.

[@francogaray2649]

don't worry, the only vehicles gaijin likes to nerf in top tier are the mig 29's and su27's flight model

[@sharkmods9042]

F-15EX...

[@monke25624]

@@francogaray2649 Yeah, as a US main it’s kind of unfair that the FMs of the Su-27 and Mig-29s are gimped.

[@CrustaceanAllergyEnjoyer]

​@@monke25624as a player that just plays whatever including ussr and usa, yes, wish flight models were better

[@LTFP-fw3it]

atp flight models won’t really change much when everything is bvr

[@z-trainproductions9526]

I mean at altitude doing Mach 2 was realistic but I suppose we never do get the realistic flight models of any American airframes I feel like it was modeled pretty realistically after flying it and reading flight manuals on it and other documents before the “nerf” tho it looks like it will still be a dominant fighter in the game

[@jackozbloke5079]

I just want the flankers fixed man

[@hotrodgreg504]

This is why we needed 15.0 yesterday.

[@Theawatson10]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="629">10:29</a> bro why we gotta bully the Viggen 😂

[@SeekerHead]

He’s the last guy. Can’t take the missiles home with me

[@Theawatson10]

@ true. My mans just out here vibing, enjoying his $80 premium to get absolutely orbital striked like he playing GTA online. 😂😂

[@TrampMachine]

Thank God, that was game breaking OP.

[@ARI-ks1vj]

Thank GOD

[@sosigakaweinerman869]

You should do another vid on the Gripen! Specifically the C Gripen from Sweden

[@raketny_hvost]

Can't believe they managed to nerf natoid

[@cornyking5393]

I researched it in 2days hoping to get in on the fun but here we are. :(

[@SeekerHead]

It’s still great!

[@explosivecommando9100]

Its still amazing, it aint as crazy as before but its amazing.

[@AkiUwUx3]

Top Speed - Mach 2.5 (1,650 mph) Thrust - 50000 (25000 per engine) Weight - 37,500 lb naked, 81,000 lb max takeoff Hotel Trivago

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

The PW-229 engines are 29,000lb per engine not 25,000

[@AkiUwUx3]

@@ICECAPPEDSKY Blame google Anyways, if it's 29000 per engine, then its 58000 combined

[@wintercraft6511]

What makes it better than the f-15c in air realistic now or how big is the difference

[@SeekerHead]

It's still an F15C with more engine power. That's pretty much it. So yeah it's better than the 15C by a little bit but they're quite similar in play style. The extra power just makes life easier

[@razvy6949]

Also has AIM 120Bs, idk if they're much better than the As

[@NastyWicked]

imagine spending your time doing charity work by testing the game for some lambo driving CEO, while the grind on the real server is waiting for you

[@liamboyle9199]

I see they also added Critial damage to the kill feed thats probably overdue too😅

[@josephthebig2889]

Ive lost hope in Top tier Air where playing American Jets for me is like comparing a 2015 Mustang to a 1999 SAAB for Russia. Sure its a car that works the same but the umph just ain't there with the modern tech aswell. Im more concerned about ground battles rn, after this patch when playing the SU27SM in ground with a CAS loudaout, I cannot use anything at all, as in the button for firing missiles/flares/chaff/locking TV missiles or Bombs does not work at all but in Air RB it does work fully even in Test it works however it does not work at all in Ground battles for somereason. First I thought it was a Chinese hacker boy but now trying it out on 5 different games without being able to use it I am very certain that this is a game issue. My buttons have not been reset nor have they been changed they are exactly the same as I've had for over half a year now and it still don't wanna work at all... Its very frustrating seeing a J10A and trying to fire missiles at him with a full on 2 minute chase of me right behind him spamming my missile fire button but nothing happens which is just stupid. If you don't believe me I can send proof cuz this is just wack....

[@filibertomagana7770]

I see you got classified documents pls do continue

[@EasyBr]

That was a balance not a nerf fr!

[@SeekerHead]

Not even balanced still 💀

[@Thebigdrop24]

With all your complain​ing there gunna make it just a f15c with more bombs ... @@SeekerHead

[@marcotron08]

Man i was so excited i have barely grinded it out

[@SeekerHead]

It’s still the best

[@Mr.MiG29]

same bro

[@thatoneguy1741]

It’s still good 😂😂😂

[@AmishHitman73.Archive]

man, i have grown as a person. i saw this jet was the way it was and i never bought it through GE, i did nothing. i still wont play, gaijun can kiss my rear

[@Zuksq]

Best plane. gets nerfed and now the best plane is the f15e!!!

[@vizender]

Hey. Could you go back to the Mirage 2000 ? It finally got its counter measures fixed, which makes it much better in my opinion

[@uhhweeb2738]

I ge'd it and it was cool but i dont mind the nerf as it was deserrved. i didnt get it because it was fast/op. I got it because i love the 15E and for what it does, i was gunna get even before they gave it the 229's.

[@Theratsnatcher]

oh no now it can't go Mach tauh in 25 seconds it will take 33 to go Mach tauhhh!!! 7 second more nooo what nerfgive me break

[@SeekerHead]

A little more of a nerf than that, but yeah lol

[@Q96-z3m]

Can you modify your decal so the eagle and the sidewinder are facing the same way?

[@SeekerHead]

I'm not sure what you mean? The eagle is catching the sidewinder out of the air, so it has to be perpendicular to the missile

[@rasskhovp528]

@@SeekerHead They mean to ask if you could make the missile face the left (or the bird and missile face right). Idk, I like how it looks now

[@boragultekin3239]

Where can I see the changelog? Also, is the Israel version nerfed as well?

[@SeekerHead]

Israel is nerfed yes. Ping me on discord I’ll send it to you

[@Radiance101]

And now they bugged it so if you have bombs there are issues with launching missiles and dropping countermeasures when above mach ive found

[@SeekerHead]

it has been reported

[@S4t0r1]

Thank god it got nerfed? So now jets at its br can actually catch up and face it normally? Whats so bad about flying the best plane at its br which is still the best at its br after the nerf

[@nightshadedawn]

OH NO, a nerf I couldn't care less about cause I still get to fly the F-15E

[@ah-64apache92]

Oh i wonder why

[@JotaDeeMeO]

This is terrible. German mains would never understand our pain for this nerf.

[@ThatYoinkySploinky-kx5qc]

that was quick

[@SuperHormet]

Idk why ppl GE a plane instead if grindingint it then complain it gets nerfed even though you should be expecting a nerf

[@DrSmallarms]

how do you change targets so fast on your radar?

[@SeekerHead]

Switch target to lock key

[@iboopy-fl2ic]

It was needed

[@vorpalmachine]

God forbid america gets the best versions of any of their own planes

[@SeekerHead]

America never has the best version of their own planes. We sell them off and other countries upgrade them. With the turkey feather exhaust on the F15I for example, we decided not to put them on to save money. The Israelis did.

[@vorpalmachine]

@@SeekerHead Yes fair enough I guess. Just a bit annoying when I see Israel get the better version of every top tier we get. Don't get me started on how they add a plane from 2006 (Su-34) and a plane from 1972/ 1985 (F-15A/E) instead of one from 2011 (F-15 advanced eagle) I'm pretty sure america's newest plane is from before the 90's

[@vorpalmachine]

and I know I'm being the average America main, but goodness gracious.

[@99eryaydude93]

@@vorpalmachinethe flankers are already underperforming as they are, adding even more op shit for america because theyre at the same time period doesnt make sense

[@vorpalmachine]

@@99eryaydude93 I understand it. but all im gonna say is, maybe russia /USSR shouldve made better shit.

[@ivan5595]

To be fair most modern equipment jn this game are not historical anyway. Wrong tank armor/ammo, missing missiles and downright fake planes (won't name which country).

[@Sammypuppy611]

They should just keep it as it is and make it 14.0

[@thesupreme8062]

Yeah no, if it gets nerfed more itd be unrealistic. People call it a sluggish aircraft but conventiently forget its average loadout is an ungodly amount of grounsd ordinance + a2a.

[@YourUncleGreg]

never clicked faster on any video in my life

[@Gyyghhhhjjjkk]

yeah but like it’s still faster than the C I bet and the aim120b combination it’s still the best plane in the game but less like op. The change was like basically zero impact😂

[@Redragonytb]

Does the F-15I (new Israeli F-15) got nerfed too or just the F-15E?

[@SeekerHead]

both

[@bergomynkia]

min <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="317">5:17</a> .. 8-9g sustain rate at mach 1,45 at 23000 ft, with 5 AIM-120. Nerfed? 😂

[@SeekerHead]

Don’t worry US players will still complain

[@jansedlak8505]

I think that there model is partially incorrect. F15E should have slimmer nose on the top.

[@siddharthasahu2796]

Why they gave it the AIM-120B is beyond me. As if AIM-120A wasn't already the best Fox-3 and least give Russians something to counter it like R-77M or R-27EM

[@99eryaydude93]

aim 120b has 0 differeneces with the aim120a

[@austinbixler8662]

It was all a big plan, get people excited cause it’s so good then after people spend resources on it and they make money they nerf it to hell. I hate war thunder devs with a passion

[@Crashgrasse395]

We all se gajin's plan to make more money here. They were waiting for people to buy it for GE just so they can nerf it, TF?

[@kustard2042]

And just like that the hype is gone

[@mochabear88]

fairs

[@StalkingGrizzly]

It was nerfed on the dev server though. It was originally going to have the Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-220s. American mains complained hard enough about the F-15E having weaker engines that they changed them to the F100-PW-229s. I wonder why they were gonna give it weaker engines to begin with? 🤔

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

Idk but it’s funny the Israeli f15E had the PW-229’s off rip and they thought yeah I don’t think American players will mind if they get the weak engines for theirs when hundreds of F15E’s have the 229’s installed.

[@LTFP-fw3it]

Where are then complaining us mains all I see are Russian mains complaining

[@StalkingGrizzly]

@@LTFP-fw3it back on the dev server US mains were crying about the F-15E having weaker engines while the F-15I had the PW-229s from the start (because it was built with the 229s in mind irl). They probably wanted to see how the stronger engines would have preformed on a F-15 in a nation that isn’t entirely common, but after all the cope on the forums they caved and gave the E the 229s, turning it into a biblically accurate F-15 which is ridiculous when you consider all the other aircraft that are artificially gimped in some way.

[@albinoalpaca1059]

Yall gotta understand, i was fighting this thing in a Yak-141 last night. There was nothing I could do

[@z-trainproductions9526]

There’s nothing u should be able to do against it there is a reason it is the most dominant fighter jet ever made

[@albinoalpaca1059]

@z-trainproductions9526 I mean it's alright. Not my style. I. The same game I was able to out fight a J10. I only lost against the F-15 because I was out of flares and chaff

[@viperz3r016]

And no LN skins for 492 and 494 units

[@w1zz0k12]

Yall liking it? Yeah? Yall spent some of that free xp? Some ge? Haha Nice nice. Content creators got those hype bait vids out? Sweet, awesome…nerf it

[@lumen0907]

as excpected

[@TacticalEd]

Good news.

[@excalibur_maga6188]

Now it can't even go its historical top speed. At 35,000ft i can't get past 2.28 this is bullshit.

[@SeekerHead]

Its historical top speed is Mach 2.33

[@SyntaxError-2505]

Fast boy not fast boy anymore

[@specc_s1452]

Fast baby

[@deadpan450]

Did they also nerf the f15c?

[@SeekerHead]

No

[@nuclearpillow1677]

what they should do is put it up in 15.0 br

[@SeekerHead]

No, it was comically unrealistic. But yes it should still be 14.0 anyway

[@RomanKyncl2000]

Still J-10 best aircraft in the game. Pl-12 are much better than amraams.

[@bennyheppner4589]

If your complaining about this plane because you spent GE on it before the nerf you have the IQ of a teaspoon

[@knowahnosenothing4862]

Well they go Mach 2.9 IRL so whatever Gaijin. Maybe it's needed. Need Longbows and Brimstones too, no excuses.