Retro-bit's White and Black 2.4ghz Wireless Sega Saturn Pads

[@Gatorade69]

I love the fact that there's a company out there releasing modern updates of retro controllers. Seems like Retrobit tries to release quality products and I like that.

[@tougeruzbay]

Same with 8bitdo

[@Satiator123]

I've heard people trash Retrobit, but the Genesis and Saturn wired controllers are spot on.

[@Gatorade69]

@@Satiator123 Oh, thanks for reminding me. For 20$ I think I might buy a Saturn one. My stepdad trashed my Genesis collection when I moved out after High school so It's just emulation for me as I don't have the money for real consoles. Trying to emulate Genesis and Staurn games with a PS2 controller really sucks, I think a Saturn one would be great, even in newer fighting games. I like the 6 buttons on the front.

[@nSquared75]

The Saturn 3D analog pad would be a great addition to their line-up. However, I doubt there is enough market to warrant the R&D.

[@Rei_Tatekei]

Think they're in the works of developing a 6 button Dreamcast controller which could be a great substitute.

[@rustymixer2886]

I want it for Android

[@greenkoopa]

@@rustymixer2886 if it's bluetooth then you won't even need a cord

[@jonniefast]

the 3D pad is amazing, however i dont see it getting a rerelease as the number of titles compatible is kinda low :(

[@Thor-Orion]

I really want one of the 3-D Analog Saturn controllers. For my money the greatest or second greatest analog controller ever.

[@kinginblack3321]

The fact that he didn't get paid for this shows ur getting an honest review and not a paid advertisement

[@Guns7469]

That clear blue is sick!!

[@SegaLordX]

I’m quite happy with it myself.

[@sentelnbalivebolton7399]

That's the one I have

[@clutchkman]

These controllers do look good.

[@greenkoopa]

I have a blue 8 button genesis controller with bluetooth and I'm very happy with it

[@darthwisner47]

I have the blue and slate gray Saturn wireless and two slate gray wired controllers. All work great!

[@diebesgrab]

I bought the bluetooth version of this controller back in February, just before going abroad for vacation (which was an interesting experience in and of itself, but that's another story). It worked great-no noticeable lag, no sticky buttons, and the face buttons and d-pad felt pretty much like I remembered them from my Genesis days (I never had a Saturn). It worked great for just over two weeks, when the d-pad broke-the right direction stopped working. I was fairly certain the actuator had snapped, but I didn't want to open it up yet in case it voided any kind of warranty. After trying and failing to contact RetroBit's customer support a few times over the course of the next couple of weeks, I finally managed to get a response on the last e-mail I intended to send them. They were, to their credit, very accommodating-they understood that it would be difficult to send the defective unit back in since I was abroad, and they just sent me a replacement unit as well as two replacement actuators. Still actually abroad due to the whole situation, so I haven't been able to test the replacement unit, but my father mailed me the actuators since they weigh like a fiftieth of an ounce or something. I received those around the beginning of June (roughly two months ago), and installed one in my original unit. After opening up the controller, sure enough, the original actuator had a crack right through the right direction. Comparing it with the replacement actuators, they look pretty nearly identical, though the replacements are translucent while the original is black. The only other significant difference to my (inexpert) eyes is that the original is very stiff, while the replacements have a little bit of give. This is the first time I've ever opened up a gamepad, so I don't really know what it should be like. I've used the unit moderately to moderately heavily since then (mostly in scrolling shooters, platformers, and RPGs, though my initial testing was in Skullgirls), and so far it's held up. Roughly three months passed between the time that the actuator broke and when I was finally able to replace it, but the d-pad does seem to control very slightly differently than it did originally-it seems slightly harder to register diagonals than it used to. That said, a three month gap can easily play tricks on your memory, so it's hard to say for sure. Either way, it still works great and feels great, and I'm hoping it continues to going forward. I'll have to test the replacement gamepad thoroughly when I get home, as well. That said, I still have some beef. The d-pad actuator issue goes all the way back to their initial wired controller shipments; it's the most widely reported issue with their Saturn pads I've seen, and the excuse I keep seeing (including the one I got from customer support) is a bad batch of controllers in their initial production cycle. Given that the wireless variants didn't even show up till about a year after the wired versions, I don't think that really holds water anymore. I'm not sure what they've been doing with these actuators, but I really hope the problem doesn't continue to persist in new controllers.

[@Daniel-it1dp]

Love that they come with a storage case and two adapters

[@MrElbowsmash]

I recently heard someone say that the Saturn controller is awful for fighting games. Insanity! I bought the clear blue controller after your video on it, and I couldn't be happier with it.

[@WingZeroKai]

I think its also worth mentioning, that if you have the 2.4ghz Genesis Pads as well, you can pair the Saturn Pad to the receiver for the Genesis and use it on a Genesis, or the opposite and use a Genesis Pad on the Saturn receiver.

[@mikeandroid3512]

Can you use the Saturn 2.4 wireless pad on ps4 without that brook convertor ?

[@WingZeroKai]

@@mikeandroid3512 Unfortunately no, it doesn’t work on without the Brook convertor.

[@supersexysega]

I am glad they finally released the Black in 2.4 ghz. I was letdown when it wasn't originally available.

[@optimusp517]

Recently picked up a white Saturn and went crazy buying games and stuff. Just found out about this controller and almost lost my mind that it was gone in most places. Thankfully I was able to place an order still at Castlemania.

[@chrisrobinson82]

I think it's worth mentioning that many people have had problems with the C button getting stuck in the multiple variations of this pad. I also had issues with charging the battery. I love Sega Lord X's content. Maybe he has been lucky but I and many others haven't. I have a friend that bought this before me and he has no problems with the C button so perhaps it's a certain bad manufacturing run or something. I made my C button useable by shaving a small amount off the plastic. Its possible that the problem lies with Retrobit's lack of of 'quality testing' of their final products but if you search on KZbin it is quite common!

[@duhmez]

NIntendo switch now suports system level custom button mapping at the system level so it works in iteraly every game

[@BigSnipp]

Man, did I hate that Nintendo wouldn't let you remap buttons. The action button belongs at the bottom. Going from DQ11 PC to Switch was a pain in the ass.

[@kjbhkhkjhk]

Switch button remapping only works for the pro controller and joy con. It doesn't work for this pad or anything the switch recognizes as a generic USB controller.

[@duhmez]

@@kjbhkhkjhk I use my 8BitDo SN30Pro+ and it is recognized as a pro contorller and burron remapping works on it. Does this recognize as pro contorler or generic USB?

[@NicheCaesar]

If I'm not mistaken they have to be bluetooth controllers that don't use a receiver. I have a different color 2.4gHz pad (which I mistakenly bought because Amazon labelled it as a bluetooth pad) and can't remap it on my Switch 🙃

[@duhmez]

@@NicheCaesar Ya U might be right htere, my 8bit do is bluetoth and does not use receiver!

[@TheRetrollectors]

Can’t wait for the wireless Dreamcast controller.

[@sndwav2049]

Took the words right out of my mouth!

[@kinginblack3321]

@Scrooge McDuck pfft that dreamcast controller is the beginning of what built the Xbox controller U disrespectful whipper snapper

[@Old-Boy_BEbop]

theres no need for the dreamcast controller, the xbox is a direct lineage to it.

[@TheRetrollectors]

@@Old-Boy_BEbop you’re not wrong. But for those who still love the Dreamcast like myself I wouldn’t say no to the option of a wireless DC controller.

[@chane2k1]

NiGHTS still amazing. Just picked up my first 2.4ghz Retrobit Saturn pad yesterday. I already picked up their wired and Bluetooth varients and they all feel and work great.

[@babypinksnail]

Heh new Sega Lord video at 3AM while I can't sleep is a nice surprise

[@SegaLordX]

Glad I could help.

[@babypinksnail]

@@SegaLordX Thanks to your vid I also decided to pick the controller up seeing as it looks great!

[@tw3nz0r]

Oh man, a white one has come out now, I need it for my white Saturn. I already have the clear blue one and I love it.

[@revengenerd1]

I more wish we had those analog Saturn controllers that were advertised a year or so ago, even if they were only for PC I love the Saturn style controllers so would of been my go to controller.

[@Nanasuyl]

Thanks to you, now I know how to pair my Saturn Retro-bit Pad with Steam. Thank you so much, Sega Lord X! I just got a gaming PC after 10 years of owning only crappy computers, so I'm kinda new to modern PC gaming. Really like the work you do here on the channel, you made me proud again of being a Sega fan!

[@Sega_Dreams]

I'm a dinosaur. I gotta have my wires. But I'm glad the clickiness of the shoulder buttons has been restored! That alone makes me tempted to get one of these

[@Sega_Dreams]

@@jiijijjijiijiij Ahh, well damn. Thanks for the heads up. Over the years on KZbin, I've seen many people complain about the failure rate of the microswitches in the original Saturn pads, but I never had a single one fail. I always loved the way they felt.

[@jesseslack2089]

@@jiijijjijiijiijIn your opinion, the 8bitdo version is better than the retrobits? I do not care about how the controller feels in my hand, I just want to know if the D-pad and buttons are close enough to the originals? I'm wanting it for PC since I still have an original Saturn Controller brand new from back in the day since I had no buddies :-( for my console.

[@jesseslack2089]

@@jiijijjijiijiij Thankyou for giving a rundown and a general idea...and for using other controllers to convey the information. I was never a fan of the L and R on the SNES ones myself but they were fine for the time and if Retrobits thumbpad is anywhere near a SNES cross then I will stay away cause while fine for platformers, it was horrible for any Street Fighter inputs, yea it works but I like the skin on my thumb, it's been there since the begining. :-). All kidding aside I appreciate you legit description and I'll go with the "do".

[@LorenHelgeson]

I have a pair of Retro-Bit's wired Saturn controllers, and I'm very impressed with how well they work. I should try one of these on my Saturn.

[@griffinjeff151]

Your channel has easily become my favorite channel to watch. I was and still am a huge Sega fan and its nice hearing some praise for their old hardware. The Saturn will always be on of my favorite systems.

[@diegomourao2343]

I wish they do something with saturn 3d joystick, frankly the only ones i've found are already used and very expensive

[@Nico0020]

Same. Panzer Dragoon 2 plays so much better with it. If that wireless DC controller ever comes out, that that will have 6 buttons/Saturn Dpad and work on the Saturn too. Not exactly the same but better than nothing .

[@PixelShade]

The thing is, I was never subscribed... but then you *ALWAYS catched me the next time!* Subscribed! Hahahaha, thanks for the great content! :D

[@esprithk]

Thx, I also found this controller in Amazon. Time to change/upgrade old controller to this on my Sega Saturn.

[@Satiator123]

I didn't have much luck with the wireless, but love the wired. One of my controllers buttons did end up sticking but that was after my kid got juice on them and I had taken it apart and cleaned with rubbing alcohol. A tiny bit of grease fixed this.

[@domtomazo]

I have used the "Skeleton" Bluetooth model for about a year now (also got 2.4 GHz and wired) and I am happy with it. For me it is the L/R shoulder buttons that is the weak point, they click but does not always register properly (feels like actuation is below the clicking point). All other buttons are working great. Hoping to see the White version available in Europe :)

[@janx83]

Yes, the white looks great!

[@domtomazo]

@@jiijijjijiijiij Thanks for the additional information! It is annoying in racing games like Sega Rally with manual shifting, using the shoulder buttons a lot... some other games are fine

[@Akiga_games]

This controller looks awesome! I have the one with the analog sticks so I'm guessing these are the earlier versions and they look fantastic!

[@BcHmF]

This song form NIGHTS - omg.... SO GOOD

[@kjbhkhkjhk]

An important feature of this controller is the dpad macros that allow dpad input to register as an analog stick in game regardless of system. This has allowed me to use the wired version as my go to controller for almost everything I play that doesn't require dual analog stick input. I think it's a really excellent pad! A few comments here have pointed out Switch button remapping but that does not work for this controller. Switch button remapping only applies to the pro controller and joy con.

[@hongkaiyuan]

Hi Sega Lord X, this video was made a year ago. Is your Retro-bit Saturn Controller still working?

[@otaking3582]

Even though it probably won't replace the 8Bitdo SN30 Pro Plus for most of my Switch and PC needs, it would probably make a nice compliment to it, and I appreciate the idea of a reproduction controller that's compatible with more than just it's original system.

[@affansonicfan]

I'm perfectly fine with using the original Saturn pad. I recently bought a controller extension cable as I don't mind a single cord running across the floor. However, if there is one reason I would buy the retrobit wireless controllers, it would be for the 6 port xontroller hub for playing Saturn Bomberman with my friends. Having 6+ cords running all around the room is a mess, not to mention that some of them won't even be long enough to reach the players. I was waiting for you to mention if they are compatible with the controller hub, as they're kind of necessary when playing a multiplayer game such as Saturn Bomberman without the mess. But nonetheless awesome video.

[@Riz2336]

I might consider getting one of those since the Saturn controller is such a great design and you can use that controller on so many different platforms

[@ZenoPopo]

05:20 actually, switch allows to custom map buttons in the configuration menu, so your game does not even need to have this option :D

[@Danthrax40]

I have the smokey transparent Retrobit wireless pad connected to my Switch dock through USB and the Switch OS says “Button mapping cannot be changed for this controller.” Sucks.

[@ZenoPopo]

@@Danthrax40 ah, sorry for the misconception then. I didn't know some controllers cannot be changed :/

[@consty715]

I love these controllers. Compatible with other systems too. Just keep it in the case and get it out when you use different systems

[@carl.wunsche]

My favourite pad hands down!!!

[@originalconsolegamer8572]

Went ahead and grabbed that white one with the affiliate link. I needed another one to go alongside the blue one I got last year. Us Sega fans have to stick together.

[@paulj5336]

God that white pad is lovely. Wish they worked on ps4.

[@Planag7]

Oddly enough, stopped soldering a game gear repair for this. C: (those SMDs... Ugh) Had anyone made a good 3D Saturn controller? I love my "UFO" one, but if there was a new version...

[@ChaosGenerator]

Retro Fighters Brawler Gen Sega Genesis & Sega Saturn Controller works for both systems and has an analog option for any game. I love mine. I don't know if it has full analog support for those games that support analog sensitivity but it feels good to use the analog stick for genres like schmups and brawlers. castlemaniagames.com/products/brawlergen-sega-genesis-sega-saturn-controller

[@JDPC557]

Only the USB version has true analog, the mega drive/saturn version one simply mimics the D-pad. > Please note that the analog stick registers as 8-way directional inputs on all games for the Sega Saturn / Sega Genesis. From: retrofighters.com/our-collection/brawlergen-sega-genesis-mega-drive-sega-saturn-2-in-1-controller/

[@KannX]

Saturn pads are my favourite design.

[@pc1x1]

I bought mine from your clear blue review. I agree with your review.

[@tougeruzbay]

I bought my slate grey version for my Saturn last year and really enjoyed the feel of the controller and also used it on my genesis mini too. Hopefully retro bit can make retro wireless playstation controllers.

[@hi_tech_reptiles]

I loved the wired ones, but the left shoulder button broke on mine and I had to return it. Now I just plan to get the white wireless version instead, as itll match my Japanese console. Once I retrobrite it lol.

[@radbuster4403]

definitely picking up a white one, looking forward to using it on the Saturn, Switch, and Genesis Mini

[@dronedoutrc5970]

If one were to choose to use a gam pad over an arcade stick for fighting games this would be the pad to get. The Saturn Game Pad is second to none for fighting games when it comes to game pads.

[@brentgranger7856]

I recently got a Sega Saturn USB controller to use as a 6-button pad for my Sega Genesis Mini. I could've used this review last week.

[@generalobiwankenobi9327]

Hello there! This is very good, thank you!

[@dedheddedhed]

i had to replace the dpad holding thing on mine, because it broke.. I compared that part with the one from an original saturn pad and noticed, that the plastic of the retrobit part is way thinner, than the original! I put in the original part in my retrobit wireless pad an now it works like a charme

[@misterkeebler]

I agree with the majority of this review. I also saw a lot of retrobit's older stuff as having fun designs but feeling very cheap. These Saturn pads and especially their Tribute 64 are a step up. The Saturn pad isn't perfect for sure. The mold around the buttons could be tighter so the buttons didn't have extra space to rattle, and the floating dpad sticks up a bit higher than the original. But I actually like the shoulder buttons better on the retrobit...I've never liked the microswitch style on the original as it never felt good for games that heavily use a shoulder like people playing X4 with a shoulder-mapped dash. Overall, they captured the feel of the original pretty well for a replica. It's unfortunate their QC on the first batch was poor on the dpad. I think it left a bad impression that is taking a while to shake.

[@georgelea4297]

Wow they look amazing

[@kevinconley5076]

Just ordered one a few days ago!!!

[@LodanZark]

I hope they make the dpad more accurate in the next revision....

[@richardfosterII7575]

Just ordered some and an extra wireless reciever for the saturn and sega genesis so two controllers can be used on both the genesis and the saturn. Thanks for the awesome video like usually. Love your videos.

[@SegaLordX]

Thanks man. Hope you enjoy the pads.

[@ej86]

I wished they came out with the Bluetooth variant, like they did with the slate gray/blue varriants. They came with rumble and the 4 LED's to determine which player is which when pairing multiple controllers.

[@jedimaster12100]

I have the smoke gray one and I really like it. I will eventually pick up the white one.

[@kathleendelcourt8136]

The shoulder buttons click now? That was one minor flaw with the first batch of wired retro-bit Saturn controllers, the shoulder buttons didn't have microswitches so they didn't click at all and the feeling was a bit too loose.

[@Rei_Tatekei]

The blue model clicks but not like the original sound, wonder if the white and black have been updated since then

[@ChrisAdams-fc2mn]

The games no longer need custom mapping since you can now map buttons directly in the Nintendo Switch menu.

[@Rosscotas]

Sega Saturn mini would be good

[@gilbert3579]

Have you seen the new one with thumb sticks?

[@esprithk]

Hi, please also consider to test "Terraonion Mode" that replaces the CD optical drive with a SD card/USB PCB board.

[@greenEYEDdj]

I'm pretty sure he's working on that. Stay tuned.

[@indiaalphanovember8217]

I really want to use the 8bitdo M30 on my Saturn. Love that pad.

[@SuperGameRetro]

Amazing controller. definitely I'll buy one.

[@namek1925]

They look sick!

[@j-morecoffeepls]

Good luck finding these for 35 bucks nowadays!! I’m looking for one any color but best I can find is 90 dollars new.

[@aortaplatinum]

Had mine for almost a year now, and I have some additions to bring up here. The LED indicating power, charging, and whether it's in DirectInput or XInput mode just sort of stopped working a while back. The Dpad is super close to the original but I have noticed it's just a tiny bit off- special moves I can pull off in Castlevania Dracula X on my official US 90's pad are really unreliable on this Dpad. And the final thing is that if you've got a 3D control pad plugged in to control port 2 and the wireless receiver in port 1, the wireless controller is really finnicky to connect. Might just be my console or use of Pseudo Saturn tho

[@kanekaosaard7449]

They look fantastic. Not sure if I will get them now since I just got into the Saturn, and would like another wired controller. However, should I need a modern update, I know where to look. Thanks for the video Mel!

[@rainehappy7097]

Retro-bit is the best.

[@SegaLordX]

They’ve certainly come a long way.

[@shiningwizard327]

Just got mine today, but mine never blinks red. It works, but I think red light itself is damaged. Should I get a replacement?

[@coderkind]

Glad you picked up on the d-pad; it is a bit loose. Not quite up to the original pad standard.

[@shiningwizard327]

These look great, but my only gripe about these controllers isn't the controllers themselves. It's the fact that the Sega Genesis Classics on the Switch/PS4 do not offer any button config whatsoever. So playing on a Genesis style controller is awkward because the button mapping isn't the same as the original Genesis controller.

[@soundsonline796]

I cant find the black one anywhere. Retro-bit is always out of stock on everything.

[@Cro-EYE]

All I want is for Retrobit to make a wireless Saturn 3D controller!

[@SEGAGuys]

I picked up one of the transparent “smoked grey” ones only last month (which I reviewed myself with PiP footage on our channel), but I wish I’d paid closer attention to the release date of the black and white ones ... ah well, just need to buy more!

[@johncraw8572]

Awesomeness

[@jamess.9743]

thank you for the review! I wanted to pick up the white one but wished it said Sega Saturn instead of just Sega.

[@user-jr1hm3jw2i]

I would love to see the box version on these controllers. That's what I have and what I remember. My Saturn doesnt work but did buy an onion to mode it. Will do the chip swap with the memory and should be good to go. Thanks for doing the review. I just ordered some

[@Hmbs271]

These are the ones I'm gonna pick up since I'm not a fan of clear controllers. Just bought the mega drive one and the saturn is up next.

[@SpaceAce114]

Fun fact - These wireless gamepads do not work with Mortal Kombat 2 on the Saturn. Not sure what other games are not compatible

[@adultmoshifan87]

I own the clear blue Mega Drive pad and I plan to get the clear Bluetooth Saturn controller!

[@atomiswave2]

I'll buy the white pad.

[@jmullner76]

Would love for it to work with PS4 for some Streets of Rage 4...

[@WebstersYouTube]

I keep meaning to pick up one of these!

[@ChuckBerrington]

THE SEGA LORD GIVETH, AND GIVETH SOME MOAR!!!

[@G.G.___162]

Works perfect for Android as well

[@nexusprime2487]

Any thoughts of doing a review of the 8bitdo diy kit for the saturn controller?.

[@mljh11]

Hey SLX, great video thanks! I'm interested in the Bluetooth versions, mainly for playing on the Switch and Android TV. Any plans to review those?

[@DJ239]

I preordered the white one with the colored buttons, hopefully it ships soon, website says July 31!

[@waypastcoolkid]

I’m having issues with syncing. The receiver and the controller are recognising each other but the Switch doesn’t!

[@sentokigames151]

Oh thx for the info...I still think the saturn pads were the best especially for streetfighter games

[@anglo-saxonconnor817]

Sega controllers are great for use in fighting games. By the way the saturn controllers look and feel like the mega drive controllers and it is a good thing.

[@minamur]

yeah, the saturn controller is a genesis controller with everything made just a bit better

[@Rei_Tatekei]

Do the shoulder buttons have that mouse click sound like the original? The previous Retrobit Saturn controllers haven't had it.

[@SegaLordX]

The click is more like a power button on a DVD player. The originals are more springy.

[@4fists1azz]

My only problem I have had with my retrobit saturn pad is oddly when using it on PC if you accidentally press a direction while tapping start, the controller will immediately scramble all of its inputs and won't reset until I unplug the dongle, let it time out, and then plug it back in and turn it on. Highly frustrating when you need to pause a game at an intense point in a shmup and then want to be ready to dodge bullets when you unpause the game and instead get a totally screwed up unresponsive controller and immediately die.

[@z80player]

L and R buttons are not designed to push hard, it comes with reset type buttons, weak, not like the 8bitdo (with rubber) I have the MD retro bit

[@SegaLordX]

That’s how the shoulder buttons were made on the original Saturn pads.

[@z80player]

@@SegaLordX I know it, but de original SS pad was stronger if the pad falls down hitting the ground with L/R buttons. It was more like high quality micro switches. My new MD retro bit pad falls and hit the ground with the R button, and was broken. I ordered another unit.Thanks for your content, greetings from Barcelona Sapin! (sorry for my english)

[@PlumbDrumb]

Impressive. The only drawback I can see is hardwired batteries but I'm sure that keeps the price of manufacturing down. So, it could be a question of how many charges you get before the batteries conk out. (It probably wouldn't be difficult to install a new battery pack but not everyone wants to do that. I fear controllers will be tossed in the trash!)

[@AdamWilliams-kz4pf]

Wonder if both the genesis and saturn wireless controllers work with the multitaps that came out for the systems.

[@mrratchet]

I keep wanting to purchase one of these, especially the white one but I don't own a Saturn. Would love to own a white Saturn but not sure what I need to get it up and running in the UK.

[@samuraispiritsx]

Did they fix the plastic piece under the d-pad? On the original pads they would bend pretty easy.

[@SegaLordX]

I mainly use the wireless pads, but no major trouble with the d-pad yet.

[@dad7275]

My smoke colored Retro-bit Saturn controller as of late keeps loosing button assignment?? I had problems trying to Start a game of Mortal kombat 2. The start button along with others kept assigning themselves to different positions and I'd have to keep taking a safety pin and resetting controller. Not cool. Anyone else having these type of issues? Thanks.

[@Yan-dh5yc]

Can Retrobit make this work for Dreamcast? The Dreamcast really needs a controller upgrade.

[@SegaLordX]

Look at the Retro Fighters DC Pad.

[@frankspanoudis7944]

Just brought the new street fighter on ps4 they have all the street fighters from street fighter 1 to street fighter 3.. any way it has Basically all the street fighters on it.. wish the new pad worked on all the. Consoles