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Seized Johnson 40HP outboard

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Dangar Marine

Dangar Marine

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@Archang3l14
@Archang3l14 4 жыл бұрын
Power head catches on fire, dumps some beer, keeps burning, shrugs, keeps going at it! Great video, used as reference for my tear down and rebuild project.
@stevewhite4769
@stevewhite4769 7 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say great videos stu been watching for couple of years, given me the confidence to do basic jobs, hubs and bearings, stirring jam, water and fuel pump change and loads of others now thinking about it. Saved me loads of money and given me confidence while using the boat. Nice one thanks Ste
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Steve, glad to hear the videos have been helping you with your boat. :)
@timallbritton3716
@timallbritton3716 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love that you present your videos 100% accurate. Its good that you show the ups and downs that us mechanics go through day in and day out. I have worked on everything imaginable with the exception of out board motors. I love your channel, keep up the great work!
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim, glad you like the channel. :)
@bobw222
@bobw222 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting dissection. Thanks for going through the complete process even after you basically knew it was toast. FWIW, I was taught to look in the spark plug holes, and take the head off if necessary, when the engine was seized, so you could specifically look for chewed up piston heads.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 5 жыл бұрын
For sure, if it was a job for a customer you would put the bore scope in a plug hole and pull the pin before spending any time or money.
@ourv9603
@ourv9603 4 жыл бұрын
DANGAR, Love those wiggle head extensions! I was working a job with a 2nd man & he pulled out a wiggle head extension for the work. I had never seen one before. He let me examine it & use it & I was sold! Next day at work, he walked up & handed me a package of 3 wiggle headed extensions : a 12" a 6" & a 3". It was such a nice gesture I bought us lunch. I use them regularly in my home shop now I am retired. Dig you videos. Metrics always confuse me. When you say your pulling a 10 mil bolt I dunno if you mean a bolt with a 10 mil head OR a bolt with a 10 mil shank. I'm learning. It's a joy to watch a man do good work. Keep it up. viewing your videos from California, USA.
@240SSONLY
@240SSONLY 6 жыл бұрын
I don't even like working on Marine engines, but this guy is very good at teaching... Thank you, now I'm randomly watching videos
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, glad you are enjoying the vids. :)
@TimsWorkshopTJY
@TimsWorkshopTJY 7 жыл бұрын
By the way great tear down video showing what can happen to the inside of a outboard engine. Even though not cost effective to rebuild it at least shows folks good care with maintenance is a must with these motors. Anti-seeze is a good friend.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
For sure. Taking bolts out and adding a bit of antiseize is something I've seen people do the day they buy a new outboard.
@southo69
@southo69 7 жыл бұрын
Community Service Announcement Please turn away at 16:55 for approx 5 seconds Stu was frustrated and wasn't thinking straight... Never, EVER use your beer to put out a fire... NEVER !!!! Even if it does put out the fire... You have no beer... ha ha ha ha Great video as always - I really felt for you and could see your frustrations...
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
I just lost my mind for a moment, I don't know what I was thinking. ;)
@southo69
@southo69 7 жыл бұрын
OK, Forgiven this time... :P
@oases6862
@oases6862 7 жыл бұрын
What a great video, one of the best you have done! For me, it gets across the point really well that outboards operate in a really harsh environment, and when the years accumulate and something goes bad (e.g. bearing failure), then you find parts are going to seize and / or break, and very likely the motor is beyond economic repair. Many thanks.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanke mate, the years in salt water certainly don't do an outboard any favours.
@keonfrederic1857
@keonfrederic1857 7 жыл бұрын
Can't believe the bearing rollers found their way to the top of the piston!!!! Very interesting video. Thanks.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Keon, yeah, they come up through the transfer port the same way the fuel and air gets up there and then all hell breaks loose!
@keonfrederic1857
@keonfrederic1857 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. Haven't seen the GreenMachine in a while. Hope all is good there..:)
@TimsWorkshopTJY
@TimsWorkshopTJY 4 жыл бұрын
Got one coming up possibly. A neighbor that lives nearby has a 83 8hp Suzuki that is seized. I told him I would help him try to get freed up but if not will take it if he plans on dumping it. I would take it apart and use a press to push it piston back and forth with lots of lube and heat if needed. If I'm lucky with cylinder cleaning and the piston just needs new rings with replace the main crank bearing and put it back together? Maybe? It would make a good video either way😁👍
@trevormitchell4913
@trevormitchell4913 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video bro. I enjoy them all because even though you are not fixing that 40 I get to see over and over what these outboards look like from the in out in detail
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Trevor!
@TheAfterWorkGarage
@TheAfterWorkGarage 5 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. I like your realistic portrayal of the difficulties of simple tasks that can really take the wind out of your sails. I've made a few videos outboards and mechanical things, and in one of them I had a very similar problem with a stuck flywheel. Needless to say, your solutions are almost always more elegant than mine ;)
@VK2WOG
@VK2WOG 7 жыл бұрын
Love the video old mate! i understand most would just simply swap over to another newer outboard due to (older motors) exceeding the value on what they are worth to rebuild but some of us diehards still prefer the older outboards and sometimes they have a sentimental value and we simply just can't let go of them! today's day and age, most things are simply disposable and throw away, good to see your having a go :)
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
I too like the idea of repairing old things rather than just throwing them away. This is one of the benefits of DIY is that often it becomes financially viable if you are doing all the labour yourself, including hunting around for some second hand parts etc.
@pbentley1
@pbentley1 7 жыл бұрын
Another great vid Stu, really like how you show the reality and frustrations pulling things down. So many other videos have all the drama's edited out.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
If I edited all the things that went wrong out of this video it would just be an intro and an outro. ;)
@tcwaterdrill
@tcwaterdrill 6 жыл бұрын
Good video, I rebuilt a 2002 50hp Johnson about 5 years ago. I also had the 2 bolts that would not break loose. I had to drill them out to get the engine off. After paying for the machine work, parts and gasket, for another 3 grand I could have bought a new outboard.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, fixing an outboard can get very expensive very fast unfortunately.
@petercresswell9517
@petercresswell9517 5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed that engine breakdown and covered a lot of the common problems. It was a shame to scrap the motor but the only option viable. I got to think OMG how will you remember where all those parts go back together. Great
@r100scammellpioneer9
@r100scammellpioneer9 7 жыл бұрын
Bloody good vid...dead right re the cost. And its nice to know everyone gets impossible busted/sheared/seized solid bolts and systems , that defeat us all at times.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, plenty of corrosion on these saltwater outboards!
@jeremybettis9857
@jeremybettis9857 4 жыл бұрын
I just recently rebuilt my evinrude 110 your videos were very helpful in the process keep up the good work and thanks for the info videos
@MattBaker1965
@MattBaker1965 7 жыл бұрын
Best video yet ! Beer +fire and not a barbie to be seen.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt!
@TS-xb8qg
@TS-xb8qg 6 жыл бұрын
Man what a hassle !! You really went in like a surgeon .. you do amazing work sir..
@caryandgina
@caryandgina 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, I had that exact problem with the fly wheel turning a bit then catching. Was unable to do a complete rotation of the engine. And had the same problem with the power head bolts rusted and rounded off. Cut my bolts off with a dremmel tool and cut off wheel and little mini grinder. What a job. I am pleased to say that my problem was a rusted ring on the lower piston that was catching a port. I got lucky. Already bought the power head gasket kit and Johnson manual and rings from your sponsor marineengine.com . Thanks for the video.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын
HI mate, glad it was only the ring but I feel your pain when it comes to rusted and rounded off bolts. Thanks for using marinengine.com! :)
@Fireship1
@Fireship1 7 жыл бұрын
Lots of work to tear this one down Stu. When you have a bunch of bolts on an assembly the LAST ONE will always seem to give you issues to remove! I thought it was just my luck! I have all the same tricks. Heat, Plasma cutter and air chisel...and when all else fails...anger and brute force! 😊
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Jack, yes, why is it always the last one??? I must say though, when it takes me ages to find something I always keep looking for a bit after I have located it so it isn't always in the last place I looked. ;)
@cornflake73
@cornflake73 7 жыл бұрын
I just rolled with laughter when you went for a beer then used it as a fire extinguisher!!! this was a great video because it showed how miserable a corroded motor is to take apart and how un-handy some of the bolt locations can be. But to be frank here, I have never seen that kind of damage before. WOW. I personally would not attempt a rebuild on this one even if it were fairly new. I love watching your videos because they are so educational, and yes wear you safety equipment.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, failed bearings do do more damage than just the bearing itself unfortunately.
@01dixieforever01
@01dixieforever01 6 жыл бұрын
we have all been there!
@brandonhvacants2217
@brandonhvacants2217 7 жыл бұрын
I bet people that work around you have found your knowledge very useful.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
And they certainly teach me many things I don't know. It's always great to share knowledge. :)
@coreyolson9217
@coreyolson9217 7 жыл бұрын
On one hand, I'm elated that you did a full tear-down of this motor, because it happens to be the same model (and year) of mine! On the other hand, I'm super sad to see that you are calling it a lost cause, because I won't get to see you do any more repairs on a 40 HP Johnson from 1999. Either way, great video Stu!
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Corey, don't worry, I'm sure there will be others.
@SailingTranquilityBay
@SailingTranquilityBay 7 жыл бұрын
The happiest day of my life was when we traded our old Johnson for a set of self-tailing winches. But I still feel like I could have fixed it. Thanks for the great video DangarStu.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
That's the thing, everything IS fixable, it's just a matter of how much you want to put into it. Enjoy the winches! ;)
@TimsWorkshopTJY
@TimsWorkshopTJY 7 жыл бұрын
Wore some over my street glasses yesterday drilling a dowel pin hole in a steel pin. drill bits can break and sometimes shatter. had a spring hit me in the face not long ago. didn't hurt but example stuff can fly so better safe than sorry.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
It certainly can happen when you least expect it!
@bobsean
@bobsean 7 жыл бұрын
Great Video! I like your idea about doing a stuck bolt/stripped threads video too.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sean, yep, looking forward to filming that one.
@CityZenGardens
@CityZenGardens 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really learning a lot from your concise explanations. Great videos Stu.
@atman5230
@atman5230 7 жыл бұрын
The top of that piston was Joe Mangled it even had some rollers embedded in the piston.It reminds me of the USS Eldridge which had sailors embedded in the metal after the ship reappeared after having disappeared during the US Navy experiment on attempting to make a ship invisible.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
I had the same image, a bit like that X-Files episode where people were embedded in solid objects.
@rbeau129
@rbeau129 7 жыл бұрын
You had em rolling on the deck up here in New Hampshire with your Matrix come back Stu....keep up the good work.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Oh good, I wasn't sure whether to use the safety contact lens line instead. ;)
@thilltony3362
@thilltony3362 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like you had a tough day. Sorry, that some days are just like that! I just had a Johnson 40 HP that had perfect cylinders, but would not rotate completely. I figured it was a ring stuck or a bad bearing. Was going to take one with a scored cylinder, combine the two and get a good engine out of all the parts. A car mechanic friend was over, and decided he could get it free. He did, but scored a perfect cylinder while doing it. Lesson learned - keep car friends away from boat motors after they have had a few! This week, I had a 115 with perfect compression, hot spark, good timing, etc, etc. It runs great at speed, but it simply would not idle. Once above 1500 rpm, it runs like a champ. I did many, many things, but nothing helped. Finally, after having two other mechanics over to brainstorm with me, and getting nowhere, one asked if I would sell it to him as a test monkey. I did, and now he has it. Only the second motor in memory that I simply couldn't figure out. Does not feel good! My theory is that is has a vacuum leak on the bottom of the motor, probably the bottom seal. Somewhere the spray can't reach. At higher RPM, the engine produces enough vacuum to run properly, but at idle, the leak is too much, and it just dies out. No sneezing, coughing or popping, it just slowly dies. That's my theory, at least. It will be curious if Josh can figure it out. I hope he can. Thanks for the video, as usual!
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Bummer about the Johnson, don't you just love it when you mates help! Sounds like a good theory with regards to the 115. Vacuum leaks do tend to have much greater effect at idle. Some outboard really are baffling some times.
@tuckermoreland147
@tuckermoreland147 5 жыл бұрын
just as an aside kiekaffer made very powerful outboards. i had 2 28horse engines. they had a spring relief deal instead of shear pins. the design flaw was the spring steel would chew up the aluminum housing and get sloppy. unrestricted the springs would slop and break. the fix was to machine the lower unit and sleeve it. pretty simple but never done . those 2 bladed buggers would go like hell. lots of good power heads. no lower units. oh well!
@chriseisele9969
@chriseisele9969 3 жыл бұрын
You the good the bad and the ugly things happen. Thank you learned a great deal from you have a great Christmas 🎄 Chris
@thetruth53
@thetruth53 7 жыл бұрын
Keep up the vids! Your videos have made me an expert on outboards! Haven't missed a video
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, glad they've been helping you. :)
@wayne1959
@wayne1959 5 жыл бұрын
my 2013 150 opti dropped a piston and the powerheads bolts were just as stubborn Stu..i gave them a good working over laterally with the air hammer and penetrol and managed to shake the corrosion loose..so much for factory corrosion control hey..Nice work anyway mate
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 5 жыл бұрын
You can't beat an air hammer!
@ngneer999
@ngneer999 7 жыл бұрын
On the bright side, the clock repair is great; still going strong.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
I like someone who always looks on the bright side. :)
@73suburban
@73suburban 4 жыл бұрын
love your videos brother. I learn so much watching them. Funny too!
@osbornebay944
@osbornebay944 6 жыл бұрын
Love you work with beer and slug! Beautiful piston head!
@brucecliffe6213
@brucecliffe6213 7 жыл бұрын
I feel your frustration mate. Glad it was you and not me, even though I enjoy a challenge. Cheers mate, good work. I would suggest that beer only works as a firefighting aid if it is inside the operator. Hahahaha Looks like I will be down your way round the end of Audust to mid Sept. I'll keep you posted.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Good point Bruce, my main concern should have been making sure the fire didn't spread to my stomach! Sounds good re trip.
@RudyNortz
@RudyNortz 6 жыл бұрын
Had an old duffer explain to me years ago to not use the puller to actually pull of the flywheel but to use it to put a strain on it and tap the flywheel with a non-metal hammer. Keep adding a little more strain (half a turn) and keep tapping on the wheel. A little lube and a little heat maybe but go slow with the puller.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын
That certainly is a good technique. Need to be careful with heat due to the wiring beneath the flywheel but it is amazing how often a relatively light tap will release something once it is under load.
@thom7623
@thom7623 6 жыл бұрын
I figured after I saw the big gash you were going to junk that one.you still have some nice parts
@billdigiacomo6632
@billdigiacomo6632 3 жыл бұрын
You're a funny guy! I like your videos. They make me look smart on the water.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@billdigiacomo6632
@billdigiacomo6632 3 жыл бұрын
@@DangarMarine Wish I was there with you. I hear that the women to men ratio is 10 to 1
@JA-qi1fb
@JA-qi1fb 5 жыл бұрын
Beer as a fire control system. Neat 🙂
@dpdhogan
@dpdhogan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stu, I'm having the same issues with a 1996 Evinrude 60hp. Think I will try take it apart , but not going to spend lots of money on parts . Will give it a crack!
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 3 жыл бұрын
It’s always worth a shot. If it frees up, great. If it doesn’t then you haven’t put any real money into it.
@loadnlock357
@loadnlock357 6 жыл бұрын
This is why I'm thankful my boat is never in salt water!
@dennispeck9926
@dennispeck9926 7 жыл бұрын
when useing the puller i screw it down with a fair amount of pressure then put a socket on the end of it and hit wiyh hammer ive done it for years
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Good technique. An impact shock can do wonders to free up a part once it has a bit of load on it.
@coreyballard8359
@coreyballard8359 7 жыл бұрын
Safety squint do the job just fine, where did you get the poster in the back left at 15:58?
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Works every time. ;) It is a free calendar from our Wurth supplier.
@coreyballard8359
@coreyballard8359 7 жыл бұрын
nice, good stuff
@markolav7017
@markolav7017 7 жыл бұрын
Hahaha Best one yet Stu.. Loving the flare-up Not my words , but great man said today " that beer is known for its fire retardant qualities (being a mid strength) That Johnno is rooted for sure. Looking forward to the seized bolts episode
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark, it is a good point about keeping some mild on hand for fires, don't want anything too strong!
@jrgarner4962
@jrgarner4962 6 жыл бұрын
man I love watching your videos every one of them are the best on youtube I sure wish I could meet you
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын
We'll be having another channel meet up on the water this year if you are local to Sydney.
@jrgarner4962
@jrgarner4962 6 жыл бұрын
@@DangarMarine I'm in America I don't think I will be coming that direction any time soon
@kypo2674
@kypo2674 7 жыл бұрын
As usual great vid Stu.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks John.
@johnlakatosh4567
@johnlakatosh4567 5 жыл бұрын
I have learned so much from your vidios I gnow ot an old outboard just to tear down myself, I will let you know how it goes
@deanfulford69
@deanfulford69 7 жыл бұрын
Nice work as always stu
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dean. :)
@Rensvind1
@Rensvind1 7 жыл бұрын
The "failures" are the ones you learn most from. Sadly enuff. Great vid btw. Keep up the good work!
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. Yep, that sadly is the case.
@raymondtalstad775
@raymondtalstad775 7 жыл бұрын
Just a thanx from Norway, love your videos👍🏼
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Raymond. :)
@straightexhaust
@straightexhaust 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual...found my eyes drifting over to that calendar though I must say
@Fireship1
@Fireship1 7 жыл бұрын
Jason Fratantuono lol. I didn't notice...until you mentioned it. Then I couldn't stop staring either. Lol
@straightexhaust
@straightexhaust 7 жыл бұрын
Fireship1 Yea haha
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Stay focussed! ;)
@randyrenault1992
@randyrenault1992 7 жыл бұрын
Stu is a sniper with that plasma cutter dam great tear down thx
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@coopw101
@coopw101 7 жыл бұрын
Well that was fun. thanks for the heads up dont what to have to do that one. peace and be safe.
@Blackford86
@Blackford86 6 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for the reply for finding war year my motor is. Thanks again
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын
Welcome. :)
@johnwills9303
@johnwills9303 7 жыл бұрын
Love your approach. Classic to see you pour the beer on!! Deadly :)
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks John!
@mattroy3154
@mattroy3154 7 жыл бұрын
Informative and fun video. I like the attention to the beer. +1
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt!
@lerch122
@lerch122 5 жыл бұрын
i have got a recondition 350 chev i am putting back in my boat but am looking at putting a outboard on instead .It may be more economical but the thought of seized bolt puts me off somewhat
@aaronknosp800
@aaronknosp800 5 жыл бұрын
Gray or Copper anti seize on re assembly for dis- similar metals is a good idea.. can torque a couple of Inch Lbs tighter ...
@01dixieforever01
@01dixieforever01 6 жыл бұрын
same thing happened to my 70 hp Johnson, it was running rough because it was getting to much oil. so we took off the auto oiler and mixed it ourselves ( it ran much better for a bit ) but it caused the bearing to go out and shatter the 3rd cyl. i thought it was a sezied because of the lack of oil. but it was the bearing. looked just like this one.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын
If the rest of the outboard is in good condition it may be worth rebuilding.
@01dixieforever01
@01dixieforever01 6 жыл бұрын
boats only worth 2k with a working motor :/
@WogChilli
@WogChilli 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Dangar, for rounded bolts try Kincrome lok on bolts, theyre pretty good
@WogChilli
@WogChilli 4 жыл бұрын
Sockets*
@webname8886
@webname8886 7 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your videos and you are obviously a master mechanic. It was great seeing you do the "autopsy" on that engine and your technique and work for getting around the stuck bolts etc. But wouldn't it have been easier to put a fiber optic scope into cylinder and see the damage to the piston from the crankshaft bearings ?
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, I could have put the scope in and done a 30 second video but then I would have had to think of something else to film!
@timtacner
@timtacner 5 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem with my Johnson 25hp. I had two bolts stuck. I cut them the same way. The drive shaft was stuck also. I tied the power head to the back of my truck and tied the lower end to my house. I drove off and still had to beat it with a sledge. What a nightmare. This is usually all caused by poor maintenance. No water to the jacket. Change your water pump every season folks. In your case a bearing.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 5 жыл бұрын
They sure can be hard to get apart once they get to that stage.
@vetterfellow
@vetterfellow 7 жыл бұрын
My wish is that you use safety goggles / glasses when using power tools. That was close 1:39. Our eyes are delicate. A work associate long ago was using a air chisel and a sliver of metal shot into his eye and blinded him in that eye for life. I'll never forget that story he told me about that. Great video Mate.
@vetterfellow
@vetterfellow 7 жыл бұрын
correction: 4:39. not 139
@matt1834
@matt1834 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit slack with safety glasses and had some close calls, but it's funny how the eye seems to blink just in the nick of time... Almost like it's got super speed or something.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Fortunately my eyes are getting worse each year so I'll be wearing glasses full time soon anyway. ;)
@MrRippinonyou
@MrRippinonyou 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't see any problem u were wearing ur Australian Safety glasses LOL
@aquaticthumb5193
@aquaticthumb5193 6 жыл бұрын
You only have to use safty equipment the weak before you retire . Do you know anyting about murphey's law.
@fleetwin1
@fleetwin1 7 жыл бұрын
I realize you work on several outboard brands, but the OMC universal flywheel puller is a must for getting these flywheels off. 99% of these removal headaches will be avoided for sure. That was a very creative method for splitting the crankcase with the stuck powerhead bolts! Please be sure to remove the crankcase alignment taper pin first though, before the crankcase bolts, the case halves will then split easily with just a few raps on the crank with a heavy plastic mallet. Too bad this engine is a finished for sure, unless you can find a decent used powerhead...
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, having the exact right OEM tool definitely makes a lot of jobs easier, that's for sure. Unfortunately we are primarily an automotive shop so all the money goes into tools like spring compressors and radiator pressure testers that are no use at all on these outboards! As you say, second hand powerhead from a wrecker is probably the best way to get this motor up and running again.
@RudyNortz
@RudyNortz 6 жыл бұрын
I always treated the flywheel "puller" more like a tool to put tension on the flywheel. Put the tension on by hand so it's fairly snug then tap (pound?) on the flywheel. Little more tension and some oil-like spray and maybe a little heat and more tapping. Keep doing this a bit at a time rather than doing it all at once. Less chance of breaking a bolt and/or splaying out the center bold.
@jr6874
@jr6874 4 жыл бұрын
What normally causes bearing to go bad oil pump bad oil ? With had a few two-strokes outboard s in the family but all of were old premix Motors maybe premix is more reliable
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, loss of oil, water in the crankcase causing corrosion on the bearings (usually from sinking,) or just plain old age are the main causes.
@RedfishCarolina
@RedfishCarolina 4 жыл бұрын
I have an old 7.5 Johnson I had to give up on for the same reason. So much corrosion from saltwater use.
@col2959
@col2959 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man. I thought you were going to throw a couple of snags on the oxy baryby for a moment their... I know the feeling... I worked with and on motors and adjoining bits for twenty years in my own business and this reminds of why I never want to go back. Wouldn't be so bad if there weren't bills to pay. And don't worry bout cross faces. I had them, plus cross words plus cross flying things from tools to well anything ... it's a tough gig. But nothing a day on the water with a few coldies won't fix. You did well! coltrump🇳🇿👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@bobhyde4793
@bobhyde4793 3 жыл бұрын
overheated upper piston 's detonation caused metal transfer to the squeeze area with similar crank feel at TDC
@bobhyde4793
@bobhyde4793 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how common that would be? (70 Merc. triple two stroke)
@tomhall3175
@tomhall3175 7 жыл бұрын
Hi. I wonder if you could please make a video. Of how to start a outboard motor on a stand ? I recently bought a 1998 ish mercury black max 150 hp. I have it on a stand but not sure how to start it . It's the electrical i'm not sure of. Or maybe you could explain it to me on this post . Either way it would be greatly appreciated
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, that would be a good video. I normally just connect the forward controls to the outboard and turn the key as normal, but if you don't have that you can make a remote starter like this kzbin.info/www/bejne/gouqn36imdZ3qaM
@davidwall6851
@davidwall6851 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 1994 Mercury 135 and my head and piston looked the same as this one but my failure was the rings not the bearings. My question is, should I bore only the scored cylinder or all 6? The machine shop, sight unseen, of course recommends doing all 6 at a cost of $80 per cylinder. That also means that the pistons are going to cost 3 @ $140 each and 3 @ $160 each. I am used to working on auto engines and we would just bore and sleeve the scored cylinder but the machine shop said something about the cylinder walls (ovaling) out??? You recommendation would be greatly appreciated as the savings of doing only the (bad) cylinder is huge!
@jsundb02
@jsundb02 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! What is the likeliest reason for the bearing failing? No oil, overheating or just à monday?part ?
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Can be a variety of things, but this outboard had sunk in very muddy salt water about six months ago. Combine that with being almost 20 years old and used every day...
@TERRYSMITH-vu6er
@TERRYSMITH-vu6er Жыл бұрын
love your videos i have a mercury 50hp 2 stroke / 2005 all of a sudden seized up on me i have spraided everything ine the cylinders. still froze any help
@alexeygembik608
@alexeygembik608 7 жыл бұрын
I wish you service my Mercury 90hp. Great channel, thank you.
@Lunatic416
@Lunatic416 6 жыл бұрын
I guess that's what being a good mechanic is all about. How to overcome the myriad of unforeseen problems.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын
One thing you can count on when doing mechanical jobs is that nothing ever goes to plan! ;)
@jaredbrandt9602
@jaredbrandt9602 2 жыл бұрын
Great video here, this helps me understand these motors better. I have an '80-something 60HP Johnson 2 stroke that died yesterday. Running nice and smooth around 2k rpm then it stopped quickly. It had run nicely last year, but this was the 2nd outing this year. Upon manually turning the flywheel I discover quite a bit of grinding when turning in the running direction, but no grinding in the other direction. Of course it is in neutral. I can turn it 360 degrees, and like I say it turns freely in the reverse direction. Nothing getting jammed under the flywheel, which is off now. Because it turns without grinding in the reverse direction, I'm thinking it's not bearings. Am I crazy for thinking this is worth taking the lower off, then the power head to see if it then spins freely in the other direction? Maybe peek in through the reed valves with a scope. I think the motor has just been in freshwater, so bolts haven't given me too much grief...jinx. It also will idle intermittently until it abruptly stops. Tried that 3 times now before discovering my grinding. I'm thinking, hoping something might be just binding the driveshaft???? IMO if it's bearings I will feel grinding in both directions.
@ricksnowden8408
@ricksnowden8408 2 жыл бұрын
99 was last dance for omc, everything was out of spec, trying to keep pace with Merc and yammie.
@judechopper
@judechopper Жыл бұрын
I have just put sealed bearings in 5hp Tohatsu 2003, do I need the pressure lubrication hose to lower bearing now? Thanks Stu.
@Dmoney6411
@Dmoney6411 6 жыл бұрын
It's probably not the best idea, but I find that if you put some tension on the puller an lightly tap down on it with a hammer the fly wheel usually pops off.
@rosssnyder2553
@rosssnyder2553 2 жыл бұрын
Hello I am looking for a tear down and rebuild of a 1996 Johnson 200 HP Ocean Runner video or book. I would like to rebuild my Johnson outboard. Any information would be great! Love your videos! Thanks
@lifeisfuneh
@lifeisfuneh 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a job!
@sicchuckie
@sicchuckie 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to get some grease on those bearings without tearing it down? Just curious if there is some kind of preventive medicine, have you ever heard the term don’t drink the cool-aide? Or they’re drinking the cool-aide? What is that bottled substance? Kool-aide?
@FourthWayRanch
@FourthWayRanch 3 жыл бұрын
just hone it and throw in a set of rings, how good does it have to run? most people use their boat 10 hours a year anyway.
@sno_crash
@sno_crash 7 жыл бұрын
Why did the bearing fail? lack of lubrication?
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Can be a variety of things, but this outboard had sunk in very muddy salt water about six months ago. Combine that with being almost 20 years old and used every day...
@trommehinne
@trommehinne 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I ask the same as Johan sundberg. Why do the bearing break?
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Can be a variety of things, but this outboard had sunk in very muddy salt water about six months ago. Combine that with being almost 20 years old and used every day...
@nzbarbers3868
@nzbarbers3868 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have rebuild video for mercury 90hp? Much appreciated
@lmachugh1810
@lmachugh1810 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Stu, excellent video. I have a Yamaha 15 2 stroke where the main bearing failed. Is there a way to remove the centre bearing? How do you split the crank. Not sure if it’s worth repairing but I like to have a go just for the craic. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lorcan. Unfortunately I don't think you can replace that centre bearing. I spent ages trying to find an angle I got get a shot at pressing the crank apart but no luck. Next time I was at Yamaha I asked about it because I thought it was odd and they said no go, whole thing needs to be replaced.
@lmachugh1810
@lmachugh1810 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for you help keep up the good work with the videos.
@anajay78
@anajay78 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. :)
@perkfishing
@perkfishing 4 жыл бұрын
Let's say my 1985 Johnson 25HP is cranking but not fast enough. Only getting 50 PSI. Battery, starter, solenoid are all good. Its really hard to turn the fly wheel. Any idea what the issue can be?
@Wont_Stop_Racing
@Wont_Stop_Racing 7 жыл бұрын
love it when he starts heating it up with a beer in the other hand then decides to poor it on the flame
@gpautoelec
@gpautoelec 7 жыл бұрын
hi Stu this video is very informative even more so because I have a 50hp Johnson but mine seems to be fine so far no problems with it at all what I'm wondering is if any of the parts off this motor would still be useable & would you part it out in particular starter motor set up & Power trim / Tilt set up as my outboard is Manual start & manual tilt would hate to think they were just thrown out not that I think you would if they were of any use thanks for the work you put into the videos for our entertainment
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, when motors like this die I always strip all the useable parts off it and store them away.
@steveclark5188
@steveclark5188 7 жыл бұрын
Great informative video mate
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve!
@joeys5429
@joeys5429 4 жыл бұрын
What fizzles me why they use iron bolts rather than stainless
@ShnitzlHaus
@ShnitzlHaus 6 жыл бұрын
are the needle bearings a serviceable part at a given interval? how do you avoid that failure.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын
Generally not, no. This outboard had sunk a few months earlier so I would say that was a major contributing cause.
@ShnitzlHaus
@ShnitzlHaus 6 жыл бұрын
so should last the engines life until a rebuild. yes forgot about the sunken part makes sense
@peterhorvath2163
@peterhorvath2163 7 жыл бұрын
thank you for the vid. I have a 96 evinrude 40. Can you put one of those onboard battery chargers you installed a little while ago on this type of motor?
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, sure can. If you take a look on MarineEngine.com you will be able to find the regulator rectifier that goes with your motor and order is separately.
@peterhorvath2163
@peterhorvath2163 7 жыл бұрын
thank you.
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