Self-proclaimed Music Critic Reacts to WINTERSUN!

[@kookoo9235]

Wintersun sounds pretty much like this live with a mistake being very rare occurrence, seen them live 5 times so far and it's fucking stellar everytime.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

I can imagine!

[@Gutenberg1977]

Fun Fact: Jari Mäenpää lost half of his lungs due to an infection with tuberculosis in 2004. And even after that he sounds like this :-)

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

That's sad to hear, but kind of inspirational in an odd way I think.

[@xenophon343]

The drummer is Nightwish's drummer now.

[@lujalainen1]

and also wintersun still.

[@galadballcrusher8182]

and now bassist as well

[@ARMunkki90]

I'd recommend trying Eternal Darkness by them if you want more black metal sound.

[@growel3007]

Yes probably the best song from the forest seasons

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

The vocalist's voice sounds like he was born to do black metal, so I look forward to checking this out!

[@futtbux]

Oh yeah, definitely.

[@dubsfehr9574]

This!! My favourite Wintersun song.

[@crazyjoedavola7493]

@@TheMoralMisanthrope how was it?

[@joshuacoe8235]

Wintersun!!!

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

are INCREDIBLE!!!!

[@Oubaama]

You really opened Pandora's Box with this one. Like Jinjer, Wintersun is one of those bands where every single song will absolutely blow your mind! So I'm not even gonna recommend any song from them. Pick any, can't miss. On second thought I'm gonna recommend their newest album "The Forest Seasons". It has four songs, each over ten minutes long, one for every season. And every song is unique and amazing in its own way. Jari really outdid himself with this one.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

I'm super stoked to check this out!

[@creislaw4821]

The symbol on guitar neck is kanji for "Time" or so I have heard.

[@MetalGuitarTimo]

it is ;) it also means hour

[@TheNismo777]

We have this thing called metal music here in FInland, Alot of talents. :]

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

Many of my favorite bands are Finnish... Behexen, Thy Serpent, Baptism, Clandestine Blaze, Disciples Of The Void, Flagellant, Sargeist, Enochian Crescent, Oranssi Pazuzu, Azaghal, and I'm sure there are probably quite a few more. Finland DEFINITELY has some killer metal talents!

[@Rose-From-the-Dead]

This version actually sounds better than the album version. Everything is mixed a lot better. There are also a few spots where they added extra tracks after the fact. BTW, I fucking love the way you edit your videos. you seem to have the same weird dark sense of humor as me

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

Thank you so much! My sense of humor tends to get me in trouble a lot at work. I think it worries people a bit. lol. The other day my supervisor called me over and said she needed me to do something for her, and I said "If it's drink Clorox it better be diet because I'm trying to watch my calories." She didn't find it nearly as funny as I did.

[@oliphant2848]

This is so much better than the album version, which is drenched in symphonic layers and arrangements. If you enjoy Wintersun, you might also enjoy (kind of) early Ensiferum, where the vocalist originally came from. They're more like a folk/power metal blend with harsh vocals, and generally they are not so heavy. Kind of halfway between Nightwish and Wintersun. :) Again enjoyed your reaction and editing very much, although after watching your educational "How to fake a reaction" video, I'm sometimes not sure just going by your face and tone of voice if you're being honest or not, so I think I'll just trust you and rely on your word. But you'd be a great poker player, I think. By the way, the drummer here, Kai Hahto, is the current touring drummer of Nightwish too. Blackened power metal is perhaps not too bad a description. Another band that does this, though in a different style, and with much more keyboard and overt power metal actual music, is (early) Children of Bodom. The Patreon link in the description of this video leads to a 404 page on Patreon, because the URL it gives is www.patreon.com/themoralmisan. I had to supplement "thrope" manually. Sorry, not to bother you, just a pointer.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

Thank you for letting me know that! I WISH I could have kept faking reactions, because I always end up catching things AFTER filming my reaction that I get mad at myself for missing. That and if I f*ck up and say something stupid during a part that's not paused, there's no editing that out or do-overs. It's scary sometimes, but still more fun, none-the-less. I've listened to a fair amount of COB, and I like some of their stuff, other stuff not so much. Not an avid listener myself, but I've had friends in the past who were really into them, so I had a good bit of exposure. lol.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

Oh snap, you pledged!!! Thank you SO MUCH!!!!

[@oliphant2848]

@@TheMoralMisanthrope Yes, I try to be an unknown alien entity of my word. Oh wait, I didn't give my word that I'd join. Okay, so I'm a confused unknown alien entity that keeps words it didn't give. I hope you get more patreons though, and that your dream of living off KZbin comes true.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

@@oliphant2848 Well, you're not really THAT confused. I mean you did mention previously that you would be interested in becoming a patron if I had Patreon, so that's close enough, and tremendously appreciated!

[@robertcraane7910]

Obsessed by this song! My God!

[@steliosb8195]

kai hahto is a beast also the drummer of nightwish

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

He's putting in some serious work!

[@davemendl1624]

And Swallow the sun at least he was for a while

[@Sp0cka]

Nice reaction dude! They call their genre "Epic metal" themselves, so many different genres in Wintersuns music really... Check out their song Eternal Darkness, they go really black there. Peace!

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

Thank you! And this sounds exciting!

[@kanervatie]

I heard "melodeath" as the genre. But who cares, it is what it is.

[@balazsadamik3197]

Connection to Nightwish they from Finland too and when Jukka (Nightwish drummer) had to stop touring due to his insomnia he asd Kai Hato (drummer here) to jump in and he's with them since doing incredible. And about the honesty: This only makes sense if its honest just remain polite. Many metalhead don't get Ghost Love Score and the most desperate fans are ok with that if one doesn't say that the vocals are vomit and such… Just keep on track it's a good channel.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

Thank you! I want to be as honest and transparent as possible, even if it means being somewhat critical at times. You're right though, politeness is key. I can't even imagine how challenging it must be to play drums for 2 bands like that, and what his practice and touring schedules must look like.

[@nunalves7]

@@TheMoralMisanthrope actualy, Nightwish announced yesterday that Kai is now officialy the drumer for Nightwish and he will long play with Wintersun. Wintersun realesed also realesed a statement about that and they are all friends and happy for Kai.

[@ez0950]

I am a nightwish fan deep down. I am not a huge black metal fan. Though I can only imagine there to be a huge number of black metal fans that would absolutely hate nightwish. That does not bother me at all as long as they do not trash it lol. SO yea, I agree. Polite is key for sure. Though never call Floor vocals trash. That could get a mark put out on ya. LOL.

[@pauldoerwang4879]

@@nunalves7 While I am sad for Jukka it is only fair to Kai. A fantastic drummer and a great guy. (Sorry for the unintentional rhyme there!)

[@nunalves7]

@@pauldoerwang4879 i have mixed feelings. Love booth.

[@crazyjoedavola7493]

Wintersun - Eternal Darkness(autumn)is the best black metal track ever! Check it out bitch!

[@cr1zp1n]

just fyi, the drummer is Kai Hahto. He plays in Wintersun AND Nightwish AND founded the grindcore band Rotten Sound. Also he is a drum teacher. Talk about a busy man.

[@davemendl1624]

I personaly like listening to the Sonic Pump versions more than the albums. Its only a very slight difference in attack and mixing. But it makes them even better than the Album

[@StormTheImmortal]

Loved the reaction as usual and i've liked this song for awhile now. That being said some of their other stuff for me personally is hit and miss. Some bands just do that for me but i always appreciate the art they put out that does affect me. That being said man, i always try and put stuff i think may be up your alley to react to but you can never tell how a certain band's sound will affect anyone. If i ever put something out there and you aren't feeling it, no worries. Music is an art that touches us all different and if you think it's good but not "good" for you or even if you think it's trash im not going to take it personally. It's just something i enjoy and thought i'd share to see if you would too. Just keeping being real and honestly fuck the haters. You can't please everyone and honestly you shouldn't because honesty is always going to have critics.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

That's true, and thank you very much! I know I'm VERY harsh to my coworkers about the music I listen to, and I just don't want that to spill over into this channel. Sometimes when they play some of that new radio rap with all of the "yuh yuh yuh" and the excessive autotune and mumbling, I say things like "Did someone just turn on a garbage disposal, because all I can hear is TRASH." or "That shit sounds like C3PO having a stroke." or "This song sounds like a couple of old homeless guys finger-banging each other in the backseat of a red Prius." lol.

[@MarcinOfTheNuclearVillage]

Thank you for the cool videos man!

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

Thank you for thinking my videos are cool!

[@Teofilo87]

For a Wintersun in black metal style check out their song Eternal Darkness (Autumn), absolutely amazing. I would also suggest their first album which is more fast and technical than the later stuff which goes more into symphonic side.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

That is what I like to hear, because I''m already digging this, and if they have material darker than this, I'm all in!

[@Teofilo87]

@@TheMoralMisanthrope Eternal Darkness is brutal trust me. Check out the official lyrics video. It's from their latest album, The Forest seasons, which is conceptual and consists of 4 songs each representing different season. Jari (the vocalist) is a real genius and he basically recorded everything by himself for that last album. It was included in a crowdfunding package for a (highly successful) campaign to earn funds and build their own music studio.

[@stefananantfolk9041]

Try out Time from same band this band are a finnch are try out Innsomnium

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

I will definitely check it out. I'm very impressed with this band so far!

[@metalhead4827]

Stefanan Antfolk Yeah, Time from the same rehearsal at Sonic Pump Studios👍

[@MountainMetal]

Epic Fucking Folk Metal!

[@Doppeldropper]

...next possibilities: "Loneliness", "Time", "Forest that weeps", "Land of Snow and Sorrow" 🤗...

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

It definitely is a possibility I will do one of those.

[@amarok9097]

Ne Obliviscaris bought me here. Now you add Winterson. That's two from three. What is last one I here you ask. Be'lakor - The smoke of many fires I answer

[@Ana198]

It should remind you of that because Jari(the songwriter Trent Reznor of Wintersun) lists Emperor and Dimmu among his influences among other BM

[@Disfixional]

Saw Jari live with Ensiferum back in 2004, It really is this good live.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

I've seen a lot of references to these guys but hadn't watched them. Cool video and reaction.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

Same, and thank you! I'm really glad I finally got to hear them. They're amazing.

[@OwnedByGalatea]

Reminded but was it Death?

[@ArinmarDeKaldenoc]

always remember this recording was 2012..and i mean that in an awesome way ;)

[@Vahisofficial]

The part starting from 17:07 all i can hear is Ensiferum. The singers former band.

[@OwnedByGalatea]

SonicPump Studios makes these rehearsals :)

[@williamduckett3407]

I always enjoy this song, but I'm not crazy about their other stuff I've heard. They're very good and there's nothing wrong with it, just not something that grabs me. Now, Ne Obliviscaris on the other hand, I really like a lot of their stuff. Highly recommend you check out more from them.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

I really want to check out more from them as well. They totally blew my mind.

[@mattphillips2530]

Sisu Perkele!

[@EmAllWasTaken]

Be it Jinjer or Wintersun - pick any song and you can't do wrong.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

Good to know! I am certainly going to be checking out more.

[@fatherlandchild2780]

This is a good type of reaction video. Thumbs up 👍 and horns too 🤘

[@raunohamalainen9667]

We should chance our homeland as METAL_LAND cause we have so many good metalbands here!

[@lujalainen1]

great react dude. have great day there.

[@dejannightwish]

Noghtwish is my fav band,this is the second.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

I am very impressed with this band so far. I will be reacting to more from both them and Nightwish.

[@OwnedByGalatea]

None used, Sonic Pump Studio in Finland :)

[@finmotoman75]

Thanks for an interesting and good reaction. Maybe you should react to their Time song from same rehearsals, before you listen it by yourself. Let us enjoy your first reaction :) I also recommend to react Wolfheart. You might like. Its melodic death metal band also from Finland like Wintersun and Nightwish The Flood kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaqudGakjquclc0 or The Hunt kzbin.info/www/bejne/d33QeImJptdsZ6c

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

I'm not necessarily into melodic death metal, but I don't dislike it, and I've heard quite a bit that I did enjoy very much, so I will definitely put Wolfheart on the list. I like the name.

[@joshuacoe8235]

Naturmacht Productions (production company that Atlases is signed to) has a new album from Grima coming soon. Very atmospheric black metal. All members wear cloacks and wooden masks. Here's a link to one of the new tracks coming on the album - kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3_Ng4BuntFghZY

[@kanervatie]

The Cheezit part fucking had men. Total meltdown...laughing like helll.

[@metalfan9000]

Subbed! Brought here by the Wintersun Fans!

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

Thank you!

[@Noksivs]

React to some Dissection, like "Black Horizons" or "The Somberlain"... or why not "Night's Blood"?

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

It wouldn't really be "reacting" though. Dissection is one of my favorite bands.

[@Pappa_66]

Absolutely at least Time and Loneliness

[@pazwretzky4673]

if you're not enjoying a particular song or video you should just say so....it's your channel and you shouldn't feel as though you have to dance around the issue, and don't say you don't dance, I've seen you...you've got some sweet moves...this really wasn't my thing...my favorite part was the chuggy guitar riff...spiders and inhuman shapes on the fretboard scare the shit outta me hahaha....I thought he said "Game of Thrones" earlier as well...when I saw three of them sharing vocal duties I started to picture them as Whitewalkers seeing as they're called Wintersun

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

Haha, there are certain fretboard runs that sometimes intimidate me just because I can't make sense of what they're doing exactly, and because I know I can't do it. That whole "dance" thing you just did was clever! lol.

[@iplaybass6690]

nothing better than listening to someone chew and swallow cheese crackers while reacting to wintersun....

[@Patralgan]

Man you ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY MUST react to Wintersun - Eternal Darkness (Autumn). It's a really beasty, dark, evil and epic as fuck black metal. I guarantee you eargasm all the way through the song. In my opinion it surpasses Sons of Winter and Stars.

[@loadedcouchpotato6567]

His voice sounds like that because he lost part of a lung to TB when he was in the military.

[@timomastosalo]

Don't worry about saying you don't like something. Just maybe better not saying it's trash - because the folks who suggested it might like it. Not very communicative to dump other folks favourite songs - like you might feel if they'd call trash what you love. But just saying honestly it rubs you the wrong way etc. - discribing how it makes you feel, should be fair and honest. Then people shouldn't have any legit reason to come at you

[@timomastosalo]

And that should still leave to say you can appreciate that some folk like it - but it's not for you ... and to harder criticism like that you tried, but it just eats you or does something unpleasant to you. That latter kinda means it's shit for you, yet you don't have to call it trash, cause dumping to trash someone's treasured song is always going under the skin. Like instead of attacking the song or the person you can let them know the song attacks you :)

[@ginnydileo5168]

I'm not a fan of black metal in general but I want to know what song that was you played a quick clip of. That was pretty cool.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

There were a few clips... Keep Of Kalessin, Emperor, Carcass, and Ihsahn.

[@ravenwda007]

We don't have Cheese Its here. Cheese Nips Anyway I'd like to know what bands you used in this video because I really like the one @ 27:24

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

At that point in the video that is Ihsahn from Emperor. It is from his first solo album. The song is called "Invocation". The other bands I used clips of were Keep Of Kalessin - "Into The Fire", Emperor - " Empty", and Carcass - "Heartwork".

[@vandroiiiy]

I recommend Paara - Suon sydän (kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZ_EoYKbirhkj9U) Another excellent metal band from Finland.

[@juhagabrieltakkinen1131]

Since you are on a path to Finnish metal now, Nightwish, Witnersun.... next you should a look at Amorphis, amazing growling vocals going on: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpfCZaisrtKqiNk . I dig your channel by the way

[@Akvav1tix]

This was.. ..I kind of disliked this reaction but then again it was strangely very satisfying... As you said, I can appreciate its good but its not for me. I feel conflicted.

[@TheJama64]

Mom didn’t told you not to eat when talking to people ;).

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

She probably did, but I couldn't understand her because she was eating while she was talking.

[@TheJama64]

The Moral Misanthrope :D

[@muumiveikko]

Too much interruptions for me, is it possible to say some opinions when music is playing?

[@moonwolf2251]

Have you ever heard of Russian black metal band Stigmatic Chorus?Anyway, I subscribed to this channel because of this video...

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

That is a black metal band I have not heard of! I will definitely have to check them out! And thank you for subscribing!

[@moonwolf2251]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmqci6WFeZylrsU

[@soothingwaffle8900]

Check out Orpheus - Osiris

[@ravenwda007]

Well I checked your videos to see if you had one of my favourite black metal bands. Didn’t find them. Carach Angren - Strange Presence Near the Woods Carach Angren - Blood Queen Carach Angren - Carriage Wheel Murder

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

I am very familiar with them. Not necessarily my favorite kind of black metal, but they're still really good. I do love the song "Bitte Tötet Mich". Actually the entire "Where The Corpses Sink Forever" album is really nice.

[@ggdiven]

what the *OOF*

[@lucianrusu4037]

Excuse me, "My Moral", what "bad epic" means? This band is awesome, but sometime very close on that thin line. (you know I will allways use my bad english to learn something, 😊)

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

"Bad epic" would basically be when it loses any metal credibility and just sounds WAY too over-the-top.

[@lefterisphasarias8934]

Too many and too long pauses. And what I would describe their genre is: blackened melodic power death metal with hints of folk. Or you know. Wintersun.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

Thank you for filling me in! I'm still relatively new to this and no one told me there were specific guidelines I need to follow before I started doing this. How do you usually figure out how many pauses and the time duration for them on your own videos? What is your formula for your reactions?

[@lefterisphasarias8934]

@@TheMoralMisanthrope For me personally I prefer short pauses if you want to say something about the song and keep the videos short and simple. Unless you want to do a lyrics breakdown, then of course you can't rush it. It's your content though so of course you are gonna do what you want in them, and I'm just talking about my personal preference here, not everyone agrees with me. I'm sure there are people who prefer longer videos.

[@similartracks]

just became a patreon to think i stumbled on ya channel by dumb luck

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

AWESOME!!! Thank you so much!!!

[@kicksboxes8372]

Wintersun and Nightwish the most amazing things I loathe

[@kicksboxes8372]

Cool reaction tho

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

Yeah, they're not for everybody. I typically don't get into this type of metal at all, but I like his growls/screams, and I appreciate the technicality of the guitar riffs. This is the only exposure I've had to them thus far.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

@@kicksboxes8372 Thank you!

[@kicksboxes8372]

I'm a pretty picky metalhead I like all types of music but even tho metal is my favorite I feel more strongly one way or the other when listening to metal typically Prog, Nu-metal, and Metalcore get a stamp of approval but the other genres have some great bands and songs its very miss miss miss hit lol

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

@@kicksboxes8372 I just recently started trying to branch out from mainly black metal and it's many subgenres, and thrash metal.

[@JesterSam75]

Like u haven't heard this before...hahahahah.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

I genuinely hadn't. I had heard OF Wintersun because of all the comments, but I wasn't really sure what to expect.

[@klaudiobeshaj4480]

Rotting christ, nemesis

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

Oddly enough I've never really been a huge Rotting Christ fan. I mean I don't dislike them or anything, I've just never gotten excited over any of their albums. Good band though.

[@FantasticDimensions]

The first 40 seconds consisted of 10 seconds of spacy intro, 25 seconds of the drummer twirling sticks... total wankery. A quick flourish would have been cool, but 5+ of them was way too much! That lead vocalist was beastly, I have to say. I think I dig it overall. The video was kinda shit though... "hey, look at our drummer. He isn't doing anything right now... wait, he's twirling sticks. Now he's smiling. Drinking water. Ok, time to play again!" Yeah, I'm dwelling on it too much. It just really bothered me for some reason lol! I'm sure he's a great guy.

[@FantasticDimensions]

Oh, and it deserves to be said that he was great when playing too!

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

Lol, yeah there was definitely a good bit of stick twirlin' going on. I guess when you're that good you could put on clown shoes and duct tape an empty peanut butter jar to your face and you'll still kill it, and people will still love it. From what I've learned from a few others is that he's also Nightwish's touring drummer. Busy guy!

[@metalhead4827]

The Moral Misanthrope A few days ago Wintersun announced on their IG and Facebook page that Kai Hahto will be the permanent drummer of Nightwish so maybe he doesn’t have the time anymore to play with Wintersun unfortnately

[@kanervatie]

What? Fuck that!! Kai Hahto has so much to give, and Nightwish is not on the same level of his skill set.

[@plix3763]

Gay voice baby.... haha :D

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

gay hybrid talent babies tend to happen frequently around here. lol.

[@Brombit]

"gay voice baby" :D

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

There's always some kind of gay baby happening. lol.

[@XRevMaynardX]

I could not dislike this more. Sounds like Trans Siberian Orchestra...which I hate with the fiery passion of a million supernovas. Thanks for reacting so I know to avoid this for the rest of my life. Love your channel though. Keep it up.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

Everyone has their thing. I appreciate the honesty, and thank you!

[@paulhine1061]

New to your channel. Is the “Funeral” motif on your hat a reference to Buckethead?

[@SofaKingWashed]

This sounds like some of that "cool" Christmas music...yuck.

[@TheMoralMisanthrope]

Wait... but christmas isn't even cool... how is there cool music for it?

[@SofaKingWashed]

@@TheMoralMisanthrope lol, exactly.