Sena SMH Bluetooth Helmet Speakers - Time for a Huge Upgrade!

[@thewhingnut]

Just checked to buy the headphones 5/18/19 price just jumped to $50 bucks

[@kirksmotorrad]

Try these instead. They look to have the same speaker. amzn.to/2QgM18U

[@riphoff]

@@kirksmotorrad can u double confirm on this headphone since the first one is hard to find now. Its true Sena has a lousiest speakers same like chinese ripoff..btw..how do u trim that headphone? are u using grinder? or u cut it with heavy duty scissor bit by bit?

[@scarroll451]

$50-60 now :(

[@alsaint7944]

19.99 www.amazon.com/dp/B004MMEI7I/?cv_ct_id=amzn1.idea.3VXUZZ84KJNQP&cv_ct_pg=storefront&cv_ct_wn=aip-storefront&ref=exp_cov_illinoisbmwriders_dp_vv_mw

[@alsaint7944]

@@kirksmotorrad depending on what color you pic it raise or lowers the price..

[@speedbuggy16v]

Thanks for the video, and naming what cheapo headphone drivers you you used, it is a great improvement. Sena if your watching you need to get with Panasonic and buy those drivers as a minimum. I spent a reasonable amount of money for a system that was nearly useless until I did this. I was not expecting Sennheiser audio quality, but I DID expect to hear the damn things at 70MPH in a full face helmet.

[@chrisrempe1054]

I did this and can confirm the result was fantastic. My soldering skills are a solid 4 out of 10 and I managed to pull this off with 2 arms, no burns, and no problems.

[@brianburrell7481]

I just performed this upgrade! It's a HUGE difference! Found the headphones on Amazon for $16.. Followed your instructions.. Thank you!!

[@ofir20503]

how well do you hear music driving fast

[@PlainsRyker]

I see you used acid core flux. For electronics, that is not the best to use as it will cause corrosion. Use rosin core instead.

[@gonbykn]

I bought the Panasonic headphones about a year ago, and FINALLY did the upgrade, and WOW, it really is a night and day difference. I would actually put my helmet on to listen to music if I was missing my other headphones. It's that good. Thank you so much for very clear instructions and taking the time to post it. I owe you a beer!

[@1MarkBevans]

I will try this out next week!! As there is nothing worse than buying into the Sena BS and being stuck with the crappiest sound I've ever heard. I Begged Sena to exchange or replace my brand new speakers SMH-10's and their customer service department just basically laughed at me. Telling me that my problem was isolated and it had to be my ears, BS! Thank you soooo kindly for bringing this video out!!

[@gavinkidwell4671]

Just did this upgrade on my SMH-10. Wow what a difference. Sound is so much better. Like night and day difference. Thank you!

[@zatoichi101]

This is a EXCELLENT video!!! Exactly what I was looking for!!! Thank you for taking the time to post this!!!!

[@Captbilly1000]

Fantastic, must be awkward though having four arms.

[@kirksmotorrad]

Getting coats to fit is a challenge...

[@jimirbon]

@@kirksmotorrad yes but imagine the potential in all other activities

[@MegaGstout]

I love tinkering, and appreciate this video very much as I have tried something similar. I have reached a road block, that is why i choose to by higher end ear buds for my helmet. As it is with the comms units they are limited, it is hard for these compnays to make a profit fitting them with decent audio quality, and portability takes a hit if you want to upgrade sound. They are also limited by only using MP3 content, small wires and little to no power supply. Another route to go for better sound would a small size amp/dac that connects to your mobile device by 3.5mm jack and then outputs to a decent set of in ear speakers. The size of the portable amp /dac is about the size of your phone and can be had for around $100 US. giver or take. I know it is not the best solution but its how I get the best bang for the buck on music while on the bike. You do loose the ability for rider to passenger comm's but I see that as an upside, why ruin a perfectly good ride by having to talk to my wife. ;) Be well and be safe on the road.

[@Thespieler11]

I just completed this today and have to say... WOW. Easily 3x better sound. Theres bass!! I installed these inside a BELL DLX Qualifier helmet and noticed that when putting the helmet on the new speakers can rub my ears as I try to straighten out my ears due to the new speakers being slightly thicker. This is only a slight difference which is a non-issue. Totally worth doing this especially for the cost.

[@539bulldog]

Watched your video after struggling with the volume from my Cardo headset. Bought the same Panasonic headphones, and fitted them. They are amazing. Thanks for the tip👍🏼 Only cost £10.

[@LTVoyager]

Nice upgrade! I would recommend using a soldering iron for parts this small and using flux is not needed with appropriate rosin core solder. If wrong type of flux is used (plumbers flux), the wires can corrode later causing problems.

[@jonldegreef]

Wow. I got the same speakers with the same headset and followed these directions. Just got back from a ride and . No joke the sound quality and sound is like night and day!!! Thanks so much!!!!

[@jonldegreef]

I did shave down the back green raised lip to fit better in my helmet. Bell mag 9. Much better. No pressure on my ear lobs and sound is the same . And I’m picky about sound quality

[@Steve-motorcycles]

I have done the upgrade and have to say, it works better that I would have hoped for. It has decent base and is a lot louder,. I can't have my Sena turned up to the max now. Sound quality, although still not amazing,, is 100% better then the original tinny originals. Thank you

[@gdonathan]

Just completed this project. Thanks for the help.

[@greenguyshrek]

Did this but with skullcandy uprock headphones, got them on eBay for $10 shipped. I think they sound a bit better then the Panasonic. Thanks for the DIY

[@michaeld6091]

Thanks for the info. I replaced the completely blown speakers on my Sena 10U with the ones you recommended. Although I think the base is still lacking the replacement speakers sounded better than the stock speakers and the volume is definitely louder.

[@sweetogo]

Making sure you original Sena 20s speakers are touching your ears and correctly aligned on your ears, helps a great deal, try that first before anything else. From what I understand, any speaker mod, whether this, or purchasing new speakers like the IASUS XSound 3 is not going to increase volume/loudness from my understanding. What some interpret, after a mod, as louder seems like it is actually improved clarity, improved highs and lows. I this is my interpretation of reading many comments on the IASUS XSound 3 and comments here.

[@SmaRTrxxv]

Did this today to my Nexx X-com (Sena 10)... Amazing difference ... Thanks for the vid

[@mikeshaw5093]

Just finished a sena upgrade. Thanks for the video. Best $15 upgrade of all time.

[@richardgriffith1241]

only took about 20 min. to install. Very nice upgrade. Thanks for taking the time to put this together. RG, BMW Touring Club of Detroit

[@adamjohnson7786]

I watched this video yesterday. I went out to marshalls today and found some jbl 450 headphones for 20$. I bought and installed them in my helmet. HUGE IMPROVEMENT. They werent a direct fit in regards to size but after carving some Styrofoam they fit perfect. Thanks for a great tutorial. BTW im running the sens 10s and its twice as loud now

[@zeusman5195]

just did this mod on my g9x. amazing. I used rocket fish wireless headphones. huge huge huge sound improvement there's actually bass now. for all the people not noticing the gains it's due to the headphones you are using buy ones with higher ohm value like 32ohms

[@riphoff]

can u share me spesific model.is it bass oriented?

[@nicolebartlett4217]

Thank you so much for this! Mine are upgraded (easy peasy!) and now my boyfriend wants me to fix his! You're the best!

[@georgecronaldo7]

Thank you for the idea!! I checked on amazon, just pick the headphone that is cheaper. There are a variety of Panasonic headphone colors and I picked the white one since it was $19. Also I used the electrical solder rosin so it does not cause any corrosion. Seriously it works and I have an SMH05 and it works well too for anyone that has it.

[@borninkaraj]

We need a revolutionary speakers for our helmets.after a few hundred dollars and a half dozen different speakers i still don’t get a satisfying sound quality.im gonna try this as my last resort.thank you for sharing.

[@gokseldemir2115]

Kirk, thank you very much. Amazing upgrade it was. I would not imagine the difference would be this big. It rocks. I am changing my wife's SENA speakers right now. I am sure SENA has its own cost/convenience reasons but think about how good reviews they would get if they had simply better speakers.

[@bradfigiel2203]

Did this on the Sena 20 with the Panasonic headphone speakers as in the video. Didn't read the 1st line that won't work with 20s until I watched video again when I found the original Sena speakers are a 3 wire, red, white, blue.. No worries, I just had to forge ahead since everything was completely stripped down. I couldn't see where the wire went as Sena puts a sealer over the connection. The red and white were obvious but not the blue. Taking the circuit board out revealed just 2 connection points. So I soldered the white to the right one (neg?) and the red to the left for each speaker. Left the blue off both. Plugged it in and Pink Floyd was playing in the middle of my cortex with left and right channel alternating when needed. Sound is at least as good as originals but not sure about additional bass. Blue wire may be a crossover which would make me think one side gets paired with the red, the other gets paired with the white. Might be worth a try. You are not going to get much bass though as the cones have maybe 1mm of movement. A couple things I did, peel the original Velcro off the Sena speakers and reuse on Panasonic. Also after soldering, put electrical tape over solder joint and wire to give it some strength and protection. Dremmel definitely works good for trimming and rounding the Panasonic speaker discs. All in all a fun project and interesting to see how the Panasonic and Sena's are made. Also before throwing out the Sena's, make sure you pop the magnets out for more fun and games (we use at work to hang prints and wiring diagrams on the wall)

[@shutupdog11]

Thank you Sir for the upgrade idea . I already ordered the cheap white headphones . Can't wait but I know it's got to be an improvement.

[@Brasscapflush]

So glad I stumbled upon this video.....will be doing this mod soon!

[@savagepa1]

Did the Mod...my thoughts 1: be good a soldering. the wires you are working with are TINY 2: the speakers need some room. With the factory plastic in place they are larger than the Sena 3: improvement in my opinion is only so-so. It is better, but not quite as good as the video describes. ~~~ not sure I would do it, if I had to do it again.

[@ryanmaltba9145]

So glad I ran into your video, really appreciate it just grabbed some cost more to ship than the price I got from ebay. Crazy easy swap!

[@frankv6659]

Well I just finished fixing JBL tune 500 speakers in my Schubert C4 pro with the build in Sena SC1A. First I tested the JBL direct on my iphone, Boom boom pow from the Black Eyed Peas as reference. Awesome bass in the JBL drivers. Generally a very good set of speakers for only 25 euro's at the Mediamarkt. Key for good sound is the spacing between the speaker and ear! Lesser space is better bass..... I put some extra velcro layers as padding, the speaker is now lightly touching my ear shell and the sound is totally great. A small tip for sound lovers that do not wanna go for the earplugs, in my Shoei JO I have put a pair of Earebel by JBL (they are a bit thick so you might have to dremel a bit of foam away, I did with the Shoei JO, but they might fit perfectly on your helmet). Great bluetooth sound with a bit of ooomphf, no intercom though. I can even talk on the phone even though the mic is incorporated in one of the speakers.

[@ercelabbott]

Awesome video thanks for the tutorial. I have the Sena 20s Evo. I tried using 32-ohm speakers they sucked horribly. I went to 64-ohm speakers ”Sennheiser hd280” and MAJOR difference! I could hear the music clearly bass thumping at 80 mph I had to turn it down actually. No battery issues as yet.

[@lucasb6338]

Hello, i'm very interested about your personal upgrade, do you have a picture or any link ? Thank you

[@nicholasdechiaro27]

Another great video Kirk. Followed your instructions and the new speakers sound amazing. My setup: Arai Signet-Q Helmet with a Sena SMH10r. Thank you.

[@onetwotimo]

after I watched this, I tore open my Sennheiser HD202 . successfull instaled the sennheisers into the sena and already placed it in my shoei x14. thanks!

[@riphoff]

im looking for this model.stil available locally.My question -.is it works perfectly? do it sounded good? any issues?.please share

[@pauldouglas5883]

Awesome Idea! THANKS. I will be doing this in my helmets.

[@rylandc2915]

Good video. However, a suggestion about the older headphone drivers. Keep the magnet it may come in use for a lot of great things. If you can please try and give a demonstration of sound quality of the upgraded helmet headphones.

[@hesneyk1]

fantastic! never thought of that. I love you attitude

[@wadesigstedt2832]

Great DIY cheap and awesome way to go from no fidelity to high fidelity. Thanks!!! Amazon has the orange headsets for $10.52. : )

[@chrismoore7557]

I just used the orange set on my swap and it did not work. I now have less volume and zero increase in fidelity.

[@Yonex333]

Shondas Luv Are they the panasonic djs400? Thanks

[@kobayashimaru8114]

Nice, I've been thinking of doing this for a while except I also want to incorporate the foam ear pads to block out wind noise. I have the SMH-5 and upgraded to the SMH-10 speakers and there was virtually no difference in audio volume or quality that I could discern while riding. I will have to go this route for sure.

[@kirksmotorrad]

Make sure you are using earplugs. The bass sounds much better

[@kobayashimaru8114]

Absolutely

[@biofractal78]

#1) THANK YOU for the video. I already tried this in the past and it worked for me. I just didn't select the proper speaker replacement. Now I'm going to try your suggestion about the Panasonic. #2 DO NOT listen to heaters. Send them a prayer and call it a day. You don't have to explain what do you ride. People assume that because you ride a Harley or a BMW you are either rich or a snob. I have a Harley set and the bass is amazing and has great sound quality. Not extremely loud, but enough to hear with my loud pipes at 80mph. Now I also ride a V Strom and I need my Sena a lot but I hate it. My Harley headset is obviously useless for the V Strom. I was so desperate that I was considering buying a used Harley headset and butcher it to get just the speakers. Thank you again. Remember ignore the internet trolls, they feel powerful behind their little screens and keyboards. Ride safe brother

[@c.d.5138]

I performed this upgrade successfully .....sounds awesome.

[@bebotverano4476]

On smh10?

[@starkruzen]

Great video and idea. I just tried this with my Sena 30k. When I cut the speaker wire from the Sena headphones there were three wires! I purchased a set of Iasus helmet speakers to use and when I cut the wire to solder I found they had 4-wires. Now what? I'll have to do some research to find why 3 and 4 wires on head phones.

[@renegosselin2552]

If you got your earpieces to work after soldering with that high powered (too much heat) soldering gun, then you lucked out by not either melting the speakers or the tiny wires that make the voice coil .. a 35 watt soldering iron would've been the better choice .. remember to always keep the tip clean .. dab clean solder on wires and connection point and they'll bond faster .. other than that, I just may have to try this with my corded headsets ..

[@j0shll0yd]

It blew my mind the first time I listened to music on my Sena. Couldn't believe how bad they sound. And you know for an extra dollar or 2 they could have put something in there that sounded 10X better.

[@sundeep6552]

I bought a JVC wired over the ear headphones and ripped out the speakers therein and soldered it on to my Sena and they now sound phenomenal. Cost me $15 for the headphones & gave another $25 to the accessories shop guy to prep them up and solder them on. $40 in total & “voila” you have headphones with skull-crackin bass when juxtaposed to the original Sena crappy speakers. Basically speakers extracted from any reasonably good sounding headphones will sound 500% better than those feeble original Sena speakers. 😇😇😇

[@tgraham7r]

great vid and an easy mod if you already own the tools etc. i used heat shrink and silicone to protect the solder connections. noticeable improvement in terms of loudness. i personally use plugfone headphones in my 20s... but my passengers helmet complains of not being able to hear the stock sena speakers at 85mph+

[@PatJones82]

Great video. Is 32 ohms what I should shoot for for my Sena 10R as well? I'm not sure if the speakers are the same for the different Sena Models.

[@TheHond9]

I'm wondering if this would work for the SMH-5. do they have the same impedance as the 10?

[@c.d.5138]

I performed this upgrade to my Sena..... yes, big improvement.... excellent idea.....thanks!

[@steveone9375]

just as a side note the sena 10c has 65 oHm speakers

[@whyme4476]

Steve one 65 / 2 = 32.5

[@DarnGood1]

Uclear makes a speaker that plugs into most Cardo and Sena for $40. Uclear Pulse HDS10 drop in speaker. They are a huge improvement. If your comm unit has a 3.5mm jack, they just plug in.

[@biofractal78]

how did you find the bass of this units? I'm considering them. Music without bass is just noise especially on a motorcycle helmet.

[@DarnGood1]

Jhonathan Rivera the Uclear Pulse speakers I mentioned have very good bass capability. However you might have to play with the equalizer in your music player to tune. Google play and others have equalizers. Dont think Pandora does. When I use the pulse speakers i find the speakers are awesome, but sound different plugged into my phone vs a sena unit. Just tune them a little and youre golden.

[@biofractal78]

David M. Kuck thanks you for reply. 95% of the music I hear is Pandora. “Thanks to pandora” I stopped collecting music. Also I use an iPhone and I’m not super tech pr doing jailbreak of the phone, so no equalizer for me. Even if I pay for one on the App Store will not work with pandora. Hopefully this will work. They are prime in Amazon, so if I’m not happy i can return them. Im trying to avoid the soldering etc etc

[@DarnGood1]

Jhonathan Rivera cool. The ones I like are part number 11023 and cost just 35 to 40 bucks. Good luck.

[@biofractal78]

David M. Kuck one more thing. I'm trying to use this on my Sena SMH10. The base of the Sena has a 3.5 mm female in the back, but it seems that is just for input, not output. I just plugged a pair of headphones and no music is coming out, but if I plug my iPod there I do get music on the regular speakers. Any ideas? where did you used it and how?

[@Swoop180]

I have the same issue with the 30K and for the cost you would think they would be waterproof and easily heard at 70MPH, but no, I can't hear them for squat! Probably should have gone with the Cardo's, but they were highly recommended by a very good friend, I must have pissed him off somewhere down the road!

[@mikegreco7718]

Thank you for the video, quick question, do you know if the replacement speakers will fit inside the speaker holes in a Shoei RF1200 helmet? I am guessing that the holes in your Quest are the same size? Thanks

[@sugamai]

Found some for $20, gonna do this when the headphones arrive

[@joseb1700]

Just made this mod kirt n it really didn’t make much a difference. I used a pair of 35 ohm headphones by jvc hav570’s I probably got a ten % gain the problem is the units don’t have enough power the headset isn’t the problem it the unit it self. But thnx for the tip

[@snowdiann]

This is a definite upgrade, $18 on Amazon

[@kart22]

the sena 20s has a aux headphone slot,why can't you wire the speakers to a headphone jack and plug them in there

[@bloodseedrums]

possible, but my left channel seems to have died on thier oem speakers but its still stero through the headphone port maybe ill put dab of silicone on it

[@stanwerner7484]

I did just did this with my 30K-- the sound is 100 times better--thank you--just one question--with the new sena 30K, there is a blue wire that I do not see connected in each speaker, does anyone know what the blue wire is for.? Each speaker had "red and white" wire, I installed each side the same way and the unit works great without the blue wires hooked up

[@humblehustler2080]

What did you use for your replacement?

[@hesneyk1]

I do have 1 question..... why remove the wires from the speaker verses just soldering the wires back together with a mechanics twist? What's the significance of soldering at the speaker terminals?

[@burnerjack01]

I have to wonder if not trimming the speaker and keeping the ear cushion would make the helmet much quieter at highway speeds. Any thoughts about this?

[@Hapfletcher]

why not just ad a 3.5 female plug so you can swap to earbuds or other speakers???

[@Judesmood118]

as far a ohms are concerned, do you think a 35 ohm set of Audio Technica studio monitor headphones (ATH-M40x) would work? Also, how did you find out the ohmage for these (btw I'm using the SMH-5... same ohmage as yours?) Thanks! I really wanna try this mod : )

[@kirksmotorrad]

I would think it could work. Only one way to find out!

[@Judesmood118]

Yea, I wanna try it... its just that the speakers I wanna use are $50... that along with a $100 unit is pretty expensive if it doesn't work out...

[@sphinxer44]

Fantastic Video! Been thinking about doing something like this as it seems very plausible just wasn't sure of the logistics. It looks like the new speakers are much bigger (thicker) than your original Sena ones. Can you tell how much thicker they are?

[@kirksmotorrad]

at least twice as thick

[@peanut1033]

Good job on this. How does it compare to using good quality earbuds, instead of speakers and earplugs?

[@14wntr]

R LEBLANC earbuds will be more noise isolating

[@ChadwickRider]

Love this idea... thanks bud.

[@matthewferguson2131]

thanks for making this video! I've got a Sena 20S Evo...do you know if the cross over design in the 20s exists in the 20s EVO?

[@exmary2]

Ok, this sounds all good but the question I have is, how loud do you need your music to be? This has been a great debate between my brother-in-law and I. He has always been a hardwired J&M audio customer. Mainly because of their high quality sound. We both purchased the Sena SMH10’s and later the Sena 20s headsets. I hardly consider the sound quality to be crappy...JMO! For me, it is important to hear the ambient sounds going on around me. What I don’t want is blaring music in my ears to the point I can’t hear hazards around me. That being said, I think your video is great if you’re a rider who is more concerned with loud clear music. Many states including mine, California prohibit the use of headsets or earbuds while operating a motor vehicle.

[@chrismoore7557]

Just swapped over the Panasonic speakers and I have less volume, and the sound quality is the same as the original Sena's. Made sure polarity is correct, guess I'll have to go back to the original speakers :(

[@kirksmotorrad]

You really need to try them with earplugs in.

[@joeep46]

I recently got replacement speakers for my 20s .the bass is great.they are so loud that I can not, Can Not listen to music at full volume . plus I'm wearing earplugs.

[@kirksmotorrad]

Wait... WHAT? You got some replacement speakers for the 20S?! Please tell us what and where to get them! I will make a video STAT!! -Kirk

[@turtlepowersf]

can we pleeeze get an answer? i want to invest in a communicator but not until i figure out a good speaker solution

[@PelzHimself]

Thanks for the video! I'm genereally happy with the Sena speakers, bearing in mind that that they are optimized for speech. However, when it comes to music, they tend to push the highs way too far for my ears. I really like your approach, however I'm concerned that the replacement could be too thick for some helmets. My helmet, for example, is the Shoei NXR, which is pretty tight by default. Has anybody tried a replacement in combination with the NXR?

[@hilmannur3418]

How about the battery life after the upgrade? Is it still simillar than before upgrade?

[@davidroberts4897]

Why do you believe the manufacturer would not use a similar speaker?

[@RobertMacCready]

Have the Sena 30k and I find the audio excellent.

[@starkruzen]

My 30K sound sucks. If you ride a Harley with custom pipes you are screwed at highway speeds.

[@ryanmahoney1672]

Thanks great video. Agreed the Sena speakers are truly abysmal. I have a pair of cardo JBL speakers I wanted to swap in, but they are 64 ohms as opposed to 32 like Sena. I actually was not able to find the specs on the Sena speakers in the manual, but I'll take your word for it. Anyone know whether this would work/be safe? From my brief research, sounds like lower impedance means more power usage, so the risk would be not using more battery but maybe blowing the speakers? I assume if I kept the volume down that would eliminate that risk? If it's such a problem I'll forget it and just buy a pair of headphones with the right impedance, but the JBLs sound great and were made for motorcycle helmet so would be a hell of a lot easier if it would work. Any guidance much appreciated! Thanks!

[@henrikdosvik]

Hi Ryan, did you try this upgrade? I am considering it myself but i am uncertain about the difference in impedance myself...

[@ryanmahoney1672]

@@henrikdosvik this is quite a throwback comment. I actually never did. Lmk if you do tho and how it goes!

[@henrikdosvik]

@@ryanmahoney1672 Will do!

[@ernieschatz3783]

You're not soldering a radiator. Use rosin flux and/or rosin core solder...not acid. Good info just the same.

[@TheVeilComplex]

This upgrade was easy to perform however the speakers in the Panasonic RPDJS400W are beyond garbage. If you listen to music with even a modicum of bass, they crackle, I need to keep the volume below 50% to manage the crackle. So, more to manage, no viable increase in volume. Consider spending more than $16 on your donor headphones. Other than that, excellent workthrough.

[@langkhach237]

Great advice

[@DJ_Megahertz]

I’m seeing two different model headphones. Are they the same quality or is the “upgraded” one actually better?

[@14wntr]

The speakers are the same. They just look different

[@zatoichi101]

I need to ask a question.... I have the Sena S20 and the sound sucks. Can you recommend the right speaker for those? Or is the right headphones the RPDJS400A that you mention above?

[@kirksmotorrad]

I cannot recommend a replacement speaker for the 20s due to the multiple wire arrangement as noted in other comments.

[@zatoichi101]

illinoisBMWriders -- OH!! I guess I should have read more of the comments. Thank you for getting back to me on this.

[@SpykeZ0129]

FYI, Koss Porta Pro should work

[@snowdiann]

I put the speakers on my 20 S, I didn't use the blue wire and it worked fine.

[@humblehustler2080]

Just curios if anyone has done any experiments with the 30k yet? And if so what was used as a replacement? Any and all information would be helpful and appreciated thanks.

[@ametalheadbiker]

May I ask why didn't you just connect the Panasonic's (after you removed them from the headset) directly to Sena instead of replacing wires? Really thank you very posting this video. I've been looking around to replace the crappy Sena speakers. I'm considering your solution. Favorited and subscribed. Thanks again

[@kirksmotorrad]

I didnt want or need the extra wires hanging out the back of my helmet. Besides you still need to get rid of the OEM's to make room.

[@realone8173]

I did this and when i plugged and play the vocals sounded good but the bass sounded like blown speakers...is there anything u can think went wrong??? Pls help

[@dwightjohnson3602]

I have some shure earbuds, can i cut the sena 20 speakers off and solder the earbuds onto the wires where the sena speakers use to be?

[@Phil-ez1dk]

I did this "upgrade" and it still sounds horrible. Anyone have any other headphones they recommend using? Thanks for the video just wish these speakers sounded a tad better they crackle a lot at higher volume

[@2muchgear750]

Kirk, I tried this, didn't like it and bought myself replacement factory speakers. It just didn't work out in my case.

[@pashaATX]

hey, are the factory replacement you mention better or same as the ones that come with the unit ? thanks

[@Hondadctrider]

So in reality you could use headphone speakers in your helmet provided they can be dismantled and fit in your helmet. I only want headphones for music so all I would need to do is buy a set of over the ear headphones, dismantle them and fit the speakers in to my helmet while keeping the attached cable with the 3.5mm plug to use with my phone.

[@incmplteGORILLA]

For music is it mostly all highs or does it have a little bass?

[@guyparris4871]

So you have never seen a quarter.

[@CharlieBoy360]

I believe he was referring to the actual size of the driver and not the whole speaker housing. I thought the same thing as well initially.

[@richardfarrell6441]

Damn, I ruined the speakers on my first attempt by using a low powered soldering iron. Now the Panasonic Speakers are only available through third parties at twice the price. I want to try again but do you happen to know of other speakers instead of the Panasonic ones?

[@kirksmotorrad]

amzn.to/2CstTUx

[@09ThunderOne]

You've got 3 headphone pairs linked in your description.. which one do you like the most? Thanks!

[@kirksmotorrad]

The updated set. They are the best price and have the same speakers. Get whatever color is cheapest

[@09ThunderOne]

illinoisBMWriders thanks!

[@09ThunderOne]

Ok so I tried the updated speakers and they didn't seem any different from the original speakers. Still had distortion and tinny sound. Gonna try the set you used in the video and see if it makes a difference

[@dbest1aVlogs]

I'm gonna try this..

[@philstillwell6541]

Did the "upgrade" and they actually sounded worse. Only difference in our installs is I have a Bell Qualifier DLX that is designed for the Sena SMH-10 unit and he used a Shoei. I used the exact same Panasonic RP-DJS400 headphones he recommends, brand new from Amazon, and honestly they are smaller and cheaper quality than the original Sena crap. I did try them out on my stereo before I pulled them apart and yes they sounded awesome in comparison but only because the "over the ear design" of the original headphone speaker is sealed around your ears and therefore produces more bass and a better, louder sound. Only way this "upgrade" could sound even marginally better is that they might sit closer to your ears than the Sena originals did before the upgrade. Without the "over the ear" fitment in your helmet or some sort of amplification to the Sena unit output you're just going to end up with the same shitty sound. Sorry to pee on the parade but this is just wishful thinking. Maybe some better quality "on the ear" headphones would give a better/louder sound but the Panasonics, in my case, were just a waste of $, time and effort. Another quick afterthought I had about this project is, if you're going to go to the trouble of cutting the wiring of the Sena unit use a inline 3.5mm stereo headphone plug & jack setup instead. Much less soldering work and a cleaner, truly "upgradeable" install. Doing this you can swap headphones out in the future by just unplugging the old ones and plugging in the new. I'm going to figure this out and I'll post something here If I find something that works. Hope this helps!

[@quillmaurer6563]

Has anyone done this with noise cancelling headphones to have a quieter ride? Would need to include all the electronics, not just the speakers, but I think it could be done. I saw one attempt, said it worked reasonably well, wondering if anyone else has ever done it.

[@lekijiji]

Kirk, any tips if you wanted to replace also the microphone?

[@lekijiji]

did your mod improve just the music quality or also the pillion voice quality? I find mine very metallic and not natural

[@kirksmotorrad]

are you using earplugs? Mine sounds that way without them

[@lekijiji]

I don't feel comfortable with them under the helmet. But I don't understand... WITH earplugs you notice the lower volume less?

[@kirksmotorrad]

The sound quality is better with earplugs. It takes away the tinny sound as well as the wind noise. Just try it. I use Rooth 15db reduction and they work excellent. NoNoise make a good pair too and you can find them at Tourtech. If you use foam ones try to find them with the lowest db rating possible. 29+ db is too much and will cut the volume.

[@turtlepowersf]

Francesco Gerli here's a fun trick. next time youre in a very loud club/concert/bar and the person youre speaking to is not able to hear you, try this: use your finger to seal off their ear with that little point of cartilage that covers the ear hole. then speak into their ear at a normal-ish volume from about a foot away and they should be able to hear you no prob.

[@jcarlos88]

How could I Improve my Sena's 20s? Greetings.

[@madmarty7103]

@ 6:20 OOOOH MY FUCKING GOD!!! YOU HAVE THREE HANDS!!! I also want three hands even if I don't know where to put the third one while riding my bike.