Senville Aura hfz mini split heat pump at 2f 12000btu

[@luisbenitez9027]

Very helpful video , is the u it you’re using the 110v or 220v?

[@handyric]

pour les instalations au Quebec,le cout du mode chauffage pour une 12000btu est d'environ 85-90$ par mois, 24hr/24,,30 jours, l'ampérage est environ 4 ampere. Je trouve parcontre l'unité intérieur un peu bruyante a la pleine puissance du ventilateur, mais c'est un tres bon achat, n'hésitez pas, le model sena comporte une télécommande thermometre avec un mode ''fallow me'' tres bien pensé, prévoir que si l'unité extérieur est dans un endroit ou il y a de l'accumulation de neige, prévoir l'instalation assez haute, voir 6 a 8 pieds de haut, personnelement la mienne est a 24 pouces de terre, et je l'ai entourré d'un abris ventilé d'un coté,avec 2 bac en dessous pour recueillir l'eau du dégivrage,qui se fait environ 6 fois par jours, tout dépendra de l'humidité dans l'air. Je vide a chaque 3 jours environ les bacs, devenu glace,

[@ne7s29]

Bro type in English this is United States

[@handyric]

@@ne7s29 it's not just English people who can read comments, there are francophones in Quebec who use this kind of heat pump,and look all video of senville

[@Tzarsio]

@@handyric Merci pour ton commentaire, je regarde justement pour une senville ou bien une Gree, es-tu satisfait de la tienne un an plus tard ?

[@Tzarsio]

Aussi combien ça t'a couté pour l'installation?

[@handyric]

@@Tzarsio encore tres satisfait apres environ 4 ans que je l'ai, j'ai opté pour ce model car c'est la telecommande qui peut servir de thermostat ,car sans ce model,lorsqu'on demande de chauffer au max,veut veut pas,la tete de l'air climatisé ravale un peu sa propre air chaud,et le thermostat interieur de la tete la fait diminuer prematurément dans son environnement,alors qu'en mettant la telecommande plus loin en pointant la tete, il fait encore plus froid et la telecommande dit a la tete de chauffer encore,alors on sort le 100% de chaleur rapidement,juste a voir si les autres model ont ca,,et pour l'instalation fait moi meme ,passer le fil electrique,mais appeler un electricien pour connecter dans tableau,75$ apres souper,braker double de 15amp fourni par lui, et 50$ le soir un ami frigoriste m'a connecté mes tuyau a l'exterieur sur le compresseur pour purger l'air qui peut avoir dans le tube, le freon est deja pré-charger. prévoir l'hiver l'accumulation d'eau lors de degivrage sous la thermopompe, moi je mets des bac en plastique,et vide au 3-4 jour

[@GreatLakes247]

So my whole issue with your comparison is that the Senville is 12,000btu and the Fujitsu is 15,000btu. They are not the same in specs at all. There are so many factors that come into play when it comes to energy usage. One unit being up stairs(which heat rises to) and one unit being down stairs over a refrigerator. These units rely on many things. The Senville being over the fridge hurts the heating due to the automatic diverter facing downwards when producing heat. Also the condensers being in 2 different places is a huge factor. One has snow on it and is in direct weather and the other is covered with no weather bearing on it. I bet you will find that the Senville actually is more efficient when set up correctly and similar to the other one. Just my 2 cents. Fujitstu is a great brand and I won't knock them but your finding are due to installation and sizing of units.

[@ne7s29]

Overall the senville is less efficient. Hspf on this Chinese unit is 12and hspf on a Fujitsu 12000 BTU is 14. The cop of senville 12k BTU at 17f running at rated capacity which is 7000btu is 268% whereas a Fujitsu is over 300% and its rated capacity is 9000 BTUs at 17 Fahrenheit. At 5° the Chinese unit c o p is 198 percent cop but the Fujitsu 12000 BTU at 5 degrees is approximately 240% cop. you pay approximately 20% more for the Japanese but it pays itself off in a few years and continues to pay itself off years down the road

[@ZoePaschalis]

Senville is made in Canada

[@litespeedautodetailing9797]

I agree its really quiet, its my second winter now. But my issue is ice build up at the bottom inside because of heavy winter here in Alberta. Did you experienced snow or ice build up, and how how you protect it did you put any cover during winter? Thanks

[@ne7s29]

If you got the super low tempt unit it will have a outside baseman heater which will not allow that to happen. Also if your unit is not covered it will naturally get more snow inside and have more buildup. A full healthy defrost on a cold climate heat pump should fully defrost a unit.

[@optionstraderman]

In an earlier video, you were using a Mr Cool 3 ton unit and you said it had problems defrosting and you were going to return it. I never saw any video that continued the story. Was the return handled to your satisfaction and what did you replace it with. You were talking about replacing it with an LG, but the only LG video I can find is about a heat pump water heater. Thanks in advance for the update.

[@wgoode505]

Curious that you were saying the unit is pulling 1800-1900 watts when 12k units typically only use around 960 watts in either heat or cool modes. At least mine does. That kind of wattage is equivalent to a 24k units usage. Is there some kind of 1000 watt electric heater running with that brand heat pump when the temp gets down below freezing or something? Maybe to keep the outdoor coil from freezing/icing up. If that's the case that brand unit is not very efficient in temps below freezing. That just caught my attention on this one.

[@ne7s29]

When they advertise the say the unit uses 900w to give 12btu but that is a 47f outside. As it gets colder the unit works harder to make the same 12k btu. Like going up a hill on a car. You want to maintain speed so you lush the throttle harder.

[@qrunsel8574]

I was thinking the same way, but I have an 12000BTU 19SEER unit, and it pulls 1774 watts at 10 degrees.

[@Katana_00]

@@qrunsel8574what brand?

[@joshuarayborn]

how is this doing? I bought a 24,000 senville concealed duct

[@ne7s29]

Doing well ln heating and cooling. Why i choose senville over pioneer and other units is customer service. They have all the parts u may need if something does break. And parts are cheap. A computer board on my Fujitsu is $300. On this senville its $100. Same on other parts. Pluse senville and top model midea hyper units are the only ones I know of that are actually rated to -22f for heating and heat well below 5f. The ones rated to -13f are much weaker and their Max heating output is actually half the rated output at 5f which if your using them as a primary heat source doesn't work well. Ive also delt with LG. They heat well below 0f and are efficient but more expensive and no parts for consumer. Only technician can buy parts. So I stick with senville or top model Fujitsu rls3 models.

[@doddgarger6806]

@@ne7s29 good information to know I got a leto 9k 19 seer for master br and a MRCOOL 18k for the main room hope it works well for a long time

[@mikeeast819]

I'm looking at buying the 24k btu Aura but I'd love to find more data on the BTU and COP at different outside temperatures, It sounds like you've found some good data could you tell me where you found it?

[@ne7s29]

They have uploaded a little more data on their website so you can check that. Their newest units have a higher seasonal performance factor but a lower cop which makes no sense to me. I believe it's 2.77 at 47f at rated capacity which is extremely low

[@jacobnolt9512]

So does the Fujitsu have heating capacity? I thought in the video you said it was 15k and the Senville was 12k. I'm looking at buying a unit and was kinda leaning towards the Senville because it's cheaper and actually has better specs but didn't know how it would be in real life. Also how do the seam as far as reliability?

[@ne7s29]

The senville is half of 12 and the Fujitsu 12 has a hspf of 14 so senville has worse specs.

[@ne7s29]

Also you get what you pay for. Bearing and motor quality will obviously be better from a Japanese unit. They do a 10year warranty if installed by proper dealer.

[@ne7s29]

The Fujitsu 12k cap at 5f is 16000btu where the 12k senville Aura cap at 5f is only 12000btu so 30% less powerful which is very significant if you need those BTUs to maintain temp in house.

[@jacobnolt9512]

@@ne7s29 so you wouldn't recommend the Senville? The Fijitsu is definitely about the best out there but for half the price???

[@jacobnolt9512]

@@ne7s29 I actually called Senville today and they said their unit has a heating strip in the drain pan around the compressor and around the coils. Could it be these heating strips are cutting down the efficiency? These strips will keep it from icing up.

[@anthonyadams693]

Awesome

[@harmonicwaves8375]

So if you lived in a milder climate say Pacific Northwest where the low may only be 22 degrees would you consider the lower model of Senville the Leto for heating and cooling a 2000sqft single story house? Our traditional heat pump of 3 tons just gave up the ghost and the HVAC guys want 8-13k to replace... I am considering getting two of the Senville Letos 24k and just running my 1/4hp air handler to circulate through the house.... So much cheaper to install and I get a 17 SEER vs the 14 SEER they want 8-13k to install.. Your thoughts? Any advice? I am handy and not afraid of a vacuum pump :)

[@ne7s29]

For your situation I would highly suggest the Mr. Cool universal outdoor condenser which can be hooked up to any indoor coil. I did a few of these recently and the one I have on my KZbin page is a fail but every other 1 I put in after that is working great.. So those units will run you around 3000 for the 36k unit. It does not have to communicate with the indoor furnace. So basically your thermostat would send a signal to the furnace and at the same time send a signal to the outer condenser to start heating or cooling. So you could change the outdoor unit run the extra thermostat wire for communication as per the instruction manual shows and and all you would need is to find an HVAC guide to weld your existing plumbing from your indoor coil which is already outside to this Mr. Cool universal universal unit. I would rather pay that hvac guy to do a pressure test as well as a vacuum while he is there to make sure his Welds aren't bad. You will have a whole house AC heat pump which is 20 year for probably 4000 including labor

[@harmonicwaves8375]

@@ne7s29 The air handler is unfortunately the old R-22... If Mr. Cool had a downflow airhandler available I would have jumped on the 4-5 ton universal in a heart beat.... I have no idea why they don't offer a downflow kit... I suppose I could just replace the air handler with a downflow r-410a unit and pair it with the outdoor universal...not sure how that would affect the efficiency and not sure if I would need to get a standard air handler, adjustable speed air handler, or if I could get a ECM blower....

[@harmonicwaves8375]

On your universal fail, I think you can adjust the defrost cycle run time for longer lengths in colder climates. 2.3.2 Set Defrost Mode The second dip switch is selecting the defrost mode. The second dip switch is used to change the defrost setting, factory default setting is standard defrost. Under extremely low environment temperature, if the standard defrost cannot have the condenser defrosted completely, please set the second dip switch to be strong defrost. Under strong defrost, the defrosting time will be longer, which enable the condenser to be defrosted completely.

[@ZoePaschalis]

I have the senville and it works very well in the winter and I live in Canada.

[@Smokinstrainstation88]

I got a single wide mobile home 14x70 i got the 18k aura you think 1 unit will heat the whole place ?

[@ne7s29]

For the most part it should. I'd say 80-90% it should work. Maybe 15% Of time you'll need supplemental heat. That's if it's fairly new with decent insulation.

[@Smokinstrainstation88]

@@ne7s29 okay sweet and yeah its insulated very well for a mobile home but thanks for the quick reply and the information its greatly appreciated

[@ne7s29]

@@Smokinstrainstation88 a 24k would do you much better because it is more efficient In general seasonally and it would bot work as hard which nets higher efficiency but a 18 will work just cost you little more each year for heat.

[@Smurdle450]

How does it do for cooling? How hot does it get where you live?

[@ne7s29]

Smurdle450 doesn't get too hot, mid 90's at most. I have it on my first floor which doesn't need much ac.

[@Smurdle450]

Cool. How does this unit hook up to electricity?

[@Smurdle450]

(I hear it is 110 volt, so does it require any special electrical? Or does it simply plug in to a normal socket?

[@ne7s29]

Smurdle450 they sell a 110v and a 220v models.

[@Smurdle450]

Oh. I’m looking into the 110v model.

[@gladheateher4now]

Would it heat a 37 ft rv? In 15 below weather.

[@ne7s29]

Absolutely not. I assume a rv would use atleast twice the amount of heat as a avg home due to wall thickness or insulation standars.

[@gladheateher4now]

@@ne7s29 Thanks...it's OK thow. I heat it with a diesel furnace.

[@ne7s29]

@@gladheateher4now Look at the BTU output of your diesel furnace and try to figure out how much percent of the time the furnaces on when it's that cold and you will get your btu rating for a Mini split

[@gladheateher4now]

@@ne7s29 Thanks. Its extreamly effective. Was just curious about your heat sourse. Its 130 degrees at the vents

[@sprockkets]

Did this still heat around -22f? Seems like this is a better bet than Gree units.

[@ne7s29]

Its just a marketing scam. Anything less then -10f to -15f and u should just run reg electric heat. Now Japanese hyper heat units your good using them down to -30 and -40 I have read on forums.

[@ne7s29]

Honestly 99% of the units coming out of China are probably coming out of one factory branded with whatever sticker you would like. Checking specs weight of refrigerant and weight of unit and dimensions of unit I see that most units are the same if you know which models to compare.

[@sprockkets]

But why bother with so called Japanese units? Both Fujitsu and Mitsubishi are not made in Japan but in third world countries anyhow. And neither brand is rated to -30 or -40, F or C. Midea who makes these units sell to Carrier, Trane, and others. They also have units that cost as much as the "others."

[@ne7s29]

@@sprockkets Mitsubishi is a great product known to last decades but it does shut off at -19 Fahrenheit. Fujitsu is just as good but does not shut off at - 30 or 40. The benefit of Mitsubishi or Fujitsu over the Chinese units even though the Chinese units that are new operate at extreme cold temperatures is the efficiency at these temperatures. I would rather run a Japanese unit would still gets me to kilowatts do one kilowatt used of electricity whereas the Chinese units will be 1.5 to 1.6 at 9 is fine Fahrenheit Mitsubishi is a great product known to last decades but it does shut off at - 19 Fahrenheit. we jitsu is just as good but does not shut off at - 30 or 40. The benefits of me to be she for Virgin Sioux over the Chinese units even though the Chinese units that are new operate at extreme cold temperatures is the efficiency at these temperatures. I would rather run a Japanese unit which still gets me 2 kilowatts to 1 kilowatt consumed at minus 5f whereas the Chinese units will be 1.5 or less per one kilowatt consumed at -5 Fahrenheit. Most Japanese units at 5 degrees Fahrenheit have a cop 2.2 to 2.4 running full-bore at 5 degrees Fahrenheit were Chinese units still have good heat output at that temperature but their cop performance is struggling at 1.7 to 2 running full-bore

[@ne7s29]

Top Model Japanese units will still have close to a 2 to 1 ratio for electricity used at -10f compared to running straight electric. The most efficient unit is actually LG when looking at all of its specs. The unit is called LG prestige and they are nine and 12000 BTU units are ridiculously efficient even in Sub-Zero temperatures. They make a 15 and 18 and 24 K unit as well

[@rondail5675]

So am I correct to say the Fujitsu is more efficient? I have hot-water basement, oil-fired, heat. I can't believe it is cheaper to use a heat-pump, anyone have a comment on this? Thanks for the vlog. Which do you recommend for cooling, Fujitsu or the Senville, which is better at cooling?

[@ne7s29]

Fujitsu wins hands down for efficiency and cooling and heating approximately 30%. The 12000 BTU Fujitsu 12rls3 runs approximately 1550 shipt to your door but a senville 12000 BTU Aura rotor on you $1, 000. So the $500 difference probably will take 8 to 10 years to pay back but you're obviously getting a Japanese unit with the Fujitsu and if installed by Fujitsu contractor you get a 12-year warranty versus a 5 year Parts warranty and 7 you compressor warranty on the senville. Also at 5 degrees Fahrenheit to 12000 BTU senville aura only gives you 12000 BTUs of heat what's a Fujitsu 12000 BTU 12rls3 will give you 16 thousand BTUs of heat at 5. So it's a lot more powerful and it's still 230% efficient at 5 degrees Fahrenheit running full borr where's the single is only 190 percent. when monitoring both if they're running a medium to low load they seem to be equally efficient but as you increase the load and lower the temperature that's where the Fujitsu is a lot more efficient.

[@ne7s29]

Fujitsu rls3y models pretty much over any others. Over oil you will save at least 50% on heating if you size it right.

[@robertl.fallin7062]

@@ne7s29 Undersizing IS a problem, oversizing you likly wont see because of the mini split variable speeds. MY installed Mitshubishi is sized for 100% of heating needs but is oversized for cooling needs but I never see evidence of any effect like high humidity or clammy feeling air. One overlooked perk my wife noticed befor I did was we do not see any mildew anywhere in our home. That's been a issue in our hot humid summers befor the mini split was installed.

[@mosfet500]

@@ne7s29 I'd say the Senville caught up. Their warranty is better now (Oct 2022) and they use a better compressor in the Aura's. I just bought one with 25.5 Seer. In order to compare your two units they have to be in the same location and heating the same space otherwise you introduce variables that you may not be aware of.