Sequelitis - ZELDA: A Link to the Past vs. Ocarina of Time

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Is Ocarina of Time REALLY the masterpiece we all say it is? What did it do to change how Zelda games are made? How much hate mail WILL I get for this?!

[@thewannabegamer9]

Wow. This made me realize that Arin was truly begging for Breath of the Wild before it was even a thing. No wonder it’s his favorite Zelda game now.

[@TheBaldr]

I was wondering if the team watch this video and then made the game.

[@jedyzichterman358]

Which surprises me, because I found the content in BotW very one note and pretty boring tbh. I can only see so many 2 braincell solution shrines before I eventually tap out lol

[@weebsportsresort682]

Jedy Zichterman I’m actually working on a video essay about why BotW isn’t Zelda right now and honestly the more I work on it the more evidence I gather.

[@sircolt8184]

@@weebsportsresort682 Are you going to use low fi hip hop beats in the background while usually beeing an english native speaker and advertise skillshare to us around 40% into the video?

[@weebsportsresort682]

Sir Colt No, I’m going to use Persona and Zelda music. As for Skillshare, I’m too cool for sponsors. (My way of saying that I have 20 subs)

[@nabilel-hassan9490]

Imagine Arin doing a sequalitis on Skyward Sword vs Breath Of The Wild, he would lose his shit

[@NicolaiWozky]

The funny part this that they have the same director.

[@h.p.wallnut9912]

Imagine Arin doing sequalitis anymore, i would lose my shit.

[@Justin-qb1yw]

@@h.p.wallnut9912 We*

[@djphildeez6357]

Would be a great return to sequalitis

[@mercymaycry3386]

I'd pay to see that 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@Tatertots_yummy]

Almost 9 years later and now you can finally explore a dungeon with your Goron friend.

[@ElvenRaptor]

You mean you can explore one room with your Goron friend.

[@umberscore2051]

​@@ElvenRaptor I think you mean you can explore the entire map with your Goron friend

[@ElvenRaptor]

@@umberscore2051 You could already do that in Majora's Mask.

[@WL-bs4nc]

There’s no friend in Majora’s Mask, YOU are the Goron and friend at the same time… because you’re alone

[@ElvenRaptor]

@@WL-bs4nc Okay, and...? Still not anything new.

[@Luschan]

I can’t believe this was made seven years ago. I remember being so excited when it showed up on my feed, because I’d been waiting years for another sequelitis.

[@therealgod9859]

You’re gonna be waiting for another 7 years

[@offbrandsoda3097]

Lol it’s at 9 now

[@jeremyhalla1757]

"None of these enemies are difficult to fight" ...How about those clams

[@micromono4085]

Arin's archenemy

[@wwmxmww5259]

J310 FUCKING CLAMS

[@SayHelloToMyLittleSchwing]

J310 FUCK CLAMS! FUCK GERUDO LADY!

[@joshhall5155]

J310 arin didnt use his sheild thats his fault lol

[@Plankensen]

Better not fuck the Gerudo lady if she got clams

[@agamingenigma6116]

I wonder how angry and/or insane Arin can get if he did a sequelitis on Sonic the Hedgehog.

[@briancarlson6216]

i would pay good money for that however im afraid it would give him a brain aneurysm

[@paninihedgehog313]

Seeing how the footage from sonic adventure 1 in this video is glitches that actually have to be forced to happen. not accidents. he is gonna have to take awhile.. quiet awhile.

[@jamesducharme1711]

I wonder what his reaction to the sburb beta would be

[@herbalursa3524]

@@briancarlson6216 isn't that what game grumps is for? To see Egoraptor and Danny lose their sanity playing games.

[@briancarlson6216]

@@herbalursa3524 I mean sure but I also sometimes like to appreciate one comedian doing a bit as well I'm not always looking for 2 people

[@eribelle753]

"There's no challenge jumping over things, no trouble! I just need to press up! I can close my eyes and do this!" Later, Arin has a mental breakdown over just "pressing up" in Majora's Mask.

[@FETUSSTATUS]

I still have hope that one day Arin makes another one of these. His humor just shines in this kind of format

[@JurgenBlitz]

Same, man. I get that the guy is up to his neck in work and videos like this one takes way too much work, but I really enjoyed the Sequelitis videos and I wish there's another one at some point

[@punoil]

Too bad his arguments suck ass and he has no ground to stand on lmao

[@_black_bird]

Probably too much effort required, I don't think it's ever gonna happen lol

[@Shinyslaking64]

I think if he made another, it wouldn't be the same. He's changed so much since then.

[@dreameater2372]

His humor isn't the same anymore, it feels too forced and disingenuous. He's overly concerned with not offending anyone to a unhealthy degree

[@furydeath]

I think he doesn't like skyward sword .

[@weluvncsu]

I must not have been paying attention when did he say that?

[@Zeldahol]

Nobody likes Skyward Sword.

[@Zeldahol]

Stop looking at facebook on your phone when you're watching videos.

[@weluvncsu]

@@Zeldahol I don't know how I'm supposed to stop though!! I mean have you seen these cat videos?!?!?

[@Zeldahol]

Brian Thompson you are redeemed sir.

[@PrematureMailbox]

30:35 "You can hit that subscribe button right there, and that'll let you know when new sequelitises are coming out" 😞

[@ItchyTheSwordfish]

PrematureMailbox it still hurts...

[@anon2234]

Agreed. Maybe one day man.

[@chinchy5545]

"There is... so much... GODDAMN waiting!"

[@bombinramen]

Plot twist, in 2020. I'm calling it now.

[@lucaherman6227]

PrematureMailbox hang in there, one day... one day💀

[@bibliofowl]

In a perfect world Arin would make a new Zelda Sequelitis comparing Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom.

[@keroberos2781]

Nerrel has a good one

[@TheMooper27]

Same game, TOTK just has more stuff and different abilities.

[@wigglesbee]

theyre the same game you redditard

[@lolasogm]

Shit games. What fun is exploration when you already know the best thing you are gonna get is a fucking shrine lmao. You get to a huge area to find shrines lmao

[@zumoku3246]

The funny thing is years later Arin starts playing Majoras mask and tries to follow the formula that ocarina of time gave even though the game was mainly sidequest heavy and doesn't want you to play it like you would ocarina of time.

[@alexskocy9948]

Arin is so busy trying to prove a point that every 3D Zelda is bad or the same thing as OoT (excluding BoTW) that he tries to brute force his way from point A to point B only stopping t talk about how bad and linear it is when a game is open or in the case of SS get lost on a path that is on 1 side a straight line to you goal and on the other a shortcut to an earlier location for if you come back to the begining instead of using a later on bird statue then he runs around for 3+ episodes complaining that the game holds your hand to much while struggling over 45-60 minutes to find something that will take most people about 10 minutes to find bc he's so busy complaining that the game doesn't let you figure things out and when it does it's in an "unintuitive way" Arin thinks that being told that there is a switch hidden in a room isn't a puzzle even though it's what all Zelda's do In 3D Zelda's they hide them out of sight and make you look around for them in ALttP they are usually under pots or skulls or something else that hides it from the players vision so you have to look around

[@Devilfish6666]

@@alexskocy9948 Its like with Castlevania, he played part 1 and Zelda 1 and since then thinks every Zelda/Castlevania has to be like that but the games switched their main genre pretty much after part 1. LotP and Castlevania 2 and later are no longer adventures/linear jump n runs. Zelda went more towards adventure-RPG and Castlevania went towards Metroidvania but that is not inherently bad, its just a taste thing. The things he says about Z-targeting for example are all true, clunky and sloppy but when he starts talking about the story its just a taste thing...dialogue in a game isnt inherently a bad thing but for him it is since its "not what Zelda 1 was like". Yeah guess what the genre is different....

[@poppapalpatine8624]

@@alexskocy9948 I don't understand how he can be so impatient. Ocarina of time isn't really that much waiting

[@poppapalpatine8624]

@@Elaina2206 One tiny section of gameplay. If one cutscene that is played for comedic affect is the best example for the game dragging

[@blorbotheidiot5233]

@@Elaina2206 🗿

[@zachroberts6068]

Came here from the Grumps playing OoT and now I have to rewatch it.

[@lliatto]

+Zachary Roberts same

[@tytan2884]

Same

[@chafos]

+Zachary Roberts Same

[@bramm2613]

Same

[@DarkAngelEU]

likewise

[@otisjoi]

"You can subscribe to know when new Sequilitis episodes come out!" *4 years later*

[@voncreates947]

I'm wondering if maybe he's just said everything he wanted to.

[@Cpg443]

I honestly hope he makes a fuckin huge video

[@Cpg443]

On Minecraft porn

[@MrZeldafan125]

@@Cpg443 ... you sir have my interest

[@cutcc]

We must not lose hope =)

[@TheHuskyK9]

13:03 I love how that "OOPS" became a sound bite now

[@Jonassoe]

Maybe a controversial take, but Zelda isn't really about exploring and hasn't been since the NES games. It's become about exploring again with BOTW and TOTK, but for most of its run, the main gameplay of the series has not revolved around exploring. It's mainly about going to specific locations and solving puzzles there, and completing some levels. I don't even think OoT pretends to be about exploration, it's pretty blatantly guiding you from one dungeon to the next. The fact that people love the game in spite of that tells me that you probably shouldn't judge it as an exploration type game. It should be reviewed on its own merits.

[@AnkhOfAscalon]

Thats.... kind of the point of the video?

[@paris-1911]

I'd say much of what he says still stands when looking at Ocarina in isolation. Definitely not a perfect game, and its wrinkles in how it tries to translate Zelda into 3D get ironed out (more or less) in its sequels. Even taken on its own, I still think the game is a bit bloated and, at times, lacking in good pacing in its second half. I think the massive asterisk to Ocarina's name is that it was really the first of its kind in 3D, and the fact that it got a lot right on its first try is incredible... ... But that said, this video is entirely about removing Ocarina from the context of its time, seeing how well it stacks up today when _compared_ to its brethren. I think it would be a little narrow-minded to try and encircle Ocarina and other 3D entries in their own bubble of "different," when they bare the name of the series and still attempt at loosely following the exploration/combat template set by Ocarina. Especially after Breath of the Wild, I think Arin was on the right track when he essentially questions just how "Zelda" is Ocarina of Time? Considering they trended the series back to the roots of the series with the last couple of entries (though I think TOTK was far less successful at that), Ocarina's shadow over the series needed some productive rethinking.

[@sunfeatherX3]

I don't care what year it is, I'll still be here.

[@kibberkobber]

you couldve waited until jan 1st 2019 for added validity but you didnt, so perish.

[@barackobama7563]

@@kibberkobber We're the true intellectuals here.

[@oliviajane6713]

Same man.

[@Poopoo-sq7nh]

Pp hard.

[@jjs32stepstoenlightenment37]

Soooo who is here in 3748

[@unwritten_zephyr]

I just noticed, after all these years, Arin named his Link in Skyward Sword “Ugghhhhhh”

[@arthurchase5949]

Nah in the GG playthrough his name was Spoompls

[@MarioPfhorG]

His ocarina play through has “Buttface, you have truly matured as an adult” 😂

[@Sharon_Hocutt]

@@MarioPfhorG and link to the past has... "FARTS!"

[@kevinmeeker2832]

"Master Uggghhhhhhhh" still gets me every. Single. Time.

[@selfiestick1589]

same, and i rewatch all the sequilities about thrice a month

[@bhutch600]

Still waiting on that sonic sequilitis….or any sequilitis…

[@Ando3818]

There is so much….. GOD DAMN WAITING for another Squeilitis

[@russellwestbrook462]

arin doesn't even like 2d sonic idk why he would make a sequelitis for it

[@mrgabes2215]

Coming back to Egoraptor's old flash videos armed with the knowledge that he's incapable of learning game mechanics really clarifies everything.

[@onemanteam6543]

I mean he has ADHD. And he’s trying to run a show at the same time and be funny. Everyone learns in different ways, and for him, tutorials and text don’t do it. Probably same reason he struggled in high school. He’s just not wired that way.

[@kingstarscream3807]

@@onemanteam6543 I have ADHD. It doesn't make you retarded.

[@sloppyphart7879]

@@onemanteam6543 then he really shouldn't be critiquing games that he's not "wired" to enjoy then.

[@onemanteam6543]

@@sloppyphart7879 That’s my point though, I don’t think he understood how anyone could enjoy them. Nowadays he’s mellowed out on a lot of these things, probably because he’s older and has less of a belief that everyone plays the same way he does. You can see that he generally makes less criticisms like this in GG episodes, and when he does, they’re more presented as obligatory gestures to be funny that always end in (essentially) “but whatever though-if you can enjoy it, good for you.” He’s more willing today to view his opinions on game design as opinions rather than fact-which, if you liked his habit of ruffling feathers, makes him a little more boring, but it does definitely make him more palatable to people who think differently about games.

[@leightonrud66]

But he also refuses to try and learn, resulting in him then pissing and moaning or shitting on mechanics when it takes 2 seconds to read how to play or just do the damn tutorial. I have ADHD, not a excuse for him.

[@stephaniewilcox4836]

Wait, Arin just said attacking a clam isn't hard. I'VE WATCHED HIM GET KILLED BY THEM REPEATEDLY

[@cassiosaurus]

FUCKING CLAMS

[@TheComatoseCreator]

Fugin clams

[@digglesgiggless]

Ah, I see you have discovered the truth.

[@Iaregodzirra]

they are kinda wierd like that, i had trouble with them

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

They aren't hard as long as you're paying attention and not trying to also do improvisational comedy at the same time as playing a game.

[@Berettadv]

Every Zelda fan ever: (including me) "THE FIRST ZELDA I PLAYED WHEN I WAS 12 YEARS OLD IS THE BEST!" "NO, THE FIRST ZELDA I PLAYED WHEN *I* WAS 12 YEARS OLD IS THE BEST!" So I have accepted the fact that all Zelda games are outstanding in their own right. The person who says the best Zelda game is ____ and is better than ___ means absolutely nothing and is going to change nobody's opinion anymore.

[@superawesomeguy2280]

But come on we HAVE to agree that The faces of evil is better than OoT on every level.

[@Berettadv]

Master Yoshi Absolutely. There is no doubt about that.

[@fylthycazual9956]

Alex Vennos Ha! Very funny! Get this: I know this kid who played Hyrule Warriors when he was 12! While it was a great game, in my opinion at least, he's gonna get crushed in the future when other people are arguing for skyward sword and Zelda U.

[@Berettadv]

Jerry Li lol tell me about it xD

[@marscaleb]

Alex Vennos That is easily the best statement every made about opinions on video games.

[@aeroblu2002]

I feel like most of Arin's issues with Ocarina of Time tend to boil down to skill issues, a lot of the waiting CAN be skipped through if you know different shortcuts to different enemies, like the wolves dying in one hit if your strike their tail, or the stalfos being pathetic against deku nuts.

[@ElvenRaptor]

He also skips when the game shows him where to go next and is incapable of recognizing when he's being subtly told what to do next.

[@aeroblu2002]

@@ElvenRaptor and then can't decide wether the game is too unclear or too hand holdy.

[@ElvenRaptor]

@@aeroblu2002 He'll complain both ways, because in Arin's mind, OoT can do no right.

[@aeroblu2002]

@@ElvenRaptor he doesn't hate the game, though a lot of his issues aren't really issues against the game itself.

[@ElvenRaptor]

@@aeroblu2002His LP sure made it look like he hates the game. He undermined it at every opportunity just to make it look bad to his impressionable young viewers.

[@YanZ_Edits]

I miss these Sequelitis videos, I really wish Arin would go make more of these videos from time to time

[@PunchCounterpunch_Lizzy]

Unfortunately with how much time game grumps needs he can’t, I bet he still wants to but just can’t

[@YanZ_Edits]

@@PunchCounterpunch_Lizzy He should really just hire some animators for that and have them follow his usual art style

[@jon1819]

@@YanZ_Editswhy? To please some weirdos online? Y’all need to accept that people and their interests change

[@notkimpine]

if you like sequilitis then go watch caddicarus instead because the jokes are top notch than AVGN and SCOTT THE WOZ

[@swiftcartier6970]

@@jon1819his fans are weirdos now?💀

[@butterman59]

I literally just rewatched this for the part where he goes "OoPs"

[@sebastiansimon7557]

It’s at 13:02, dear future readers.

[@263malice]

butterman59 I actually say that. Oooops!

[@tiberseptim37]

I'm here for the "oH mY gOoOoD!..."

[@rngsilvercraft3995]

It's at 26:42

[@saraskyline8331]

Steelson Strough 5:11 here you go

[@Ryanjakehenry]

“I S E E Y O U T H E R E L O O M I N” That kills me every time

[@bettyjojoeharperre-imagina7322]

Jaker The Snaker I started using this in life and every time I hope people catch the reference... they never do.

[@CrashDunning]

@@bettyjojoeharperre-imagina7322 Why does he call it that?

[@ReinhartSchneider]

hi reddit

[@brocake1278]

Sorry man I’m just curious 😟

[@majorastorm]

Luigi looks like Wallace without the mustache

[@TheSuperRetroBros]

Listen, I can't be the only person who appreciated Arin's dinosaur joke. I looked through the comments. I CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE.

[@Valen42069]

I LOVE THE DINOSAUR JOKE SO MUCH

[@Valen42069]

Quote it everytime I see it

[@Bro-cx2jc]

"Jus' lookit that...lookit that comment acknowledging the dinosaurs... ... There's a fuckin' DINO COMMENT right there"

[@Istayton95]

Anybody else notice he was still wearing the hover boots when he didn’t need to in the footage?

[@Zhoaten]

He legit did EVERYTHING wrong in his playthrough. This is a terrible review by someone who stubbornly ignored basic game mechanics until the very end.

[@garpogods8323]

This guy reminds me alot of Arin from Game Grumps. What are the chances we could get him on the show?

[@junkiiramen]

Garpogods tHaT’s bEcAuSe iT iS aRiN

[@Zeoproo]

@@junkiiramen That's the joke

[@ser_odin820]

@@junkiiramen What? No fucking way, totally different people! One is clearly called Egoraptor and is a cartoon, whilst Arin is a human being.

[@Backseatdriver126]

@@junkiiramen omg your a genius!!!

[@Crowrainfall]

@@junkiiramenr/woooosh

[@Hutch2Much]

Egoraptor: **complains about Zelda being hand-holdy and slow** Nintendo, about to make BotW: a’aight

[@johnnynorrisjr.39]

Behold the power of expression. :)

[@waterguyroks]

Less handholding but even slower

[@Darkstander]

@@waterguyroks slower? How is it slower? Its bigger so sure it takes more time to move around. But it not slower. A game that lets you go to the last boss within the first hour is not slow.

[@neuroveyne9044]

@@Darkstander Sure, but at that point you're not playing the game. You're playing a single boss fight. And I get that some people find that fun, and it is good that the option is at least there. But if you want to actually play the game for everything it has to offer and do all the wondrous exploring that Arin spent 30 minutes arguing for, it's hella slow.

[@_harpollo_]

@@neuroveyne9044 one of the best things about botw is that you can play it however you want, at any pace you want. and the world you're in is huge and fun to explore. so even if it slower paced, i feel that its hard to be bored in botw. its not a bad thing to take your time. and again, the game doesn't force you to take your time if you don't want to

[@landler656]

21:19 Movie Dialogue: There were all sorts of bad things going on but wait This HERO guy showed up and now things are great! It's really quite fortunate for us that this HERO decided to save everyone. Man, what a great guy, that HERO character. I remember when the HERO first arrived to save our sorry butts. the antagonist was all like, "Grr." but the HERO was like, "Not so fast." and the day was saved! We will forever be in that HERO's debt, whatever his name was. Thank you HERO! We love you forever! This one time the HERO was like, "You got any change?" And I was like, "If course my man! You're the HERO!" He never paid me back, but that's okay. I'm sure he didn't mean anything by it.

[@Bro-cx2jc]

I read this in Arin's voice XD

[@olivreheck]

arin accidentally produced about a decade of memes from this video alone

[@Sesosana]

“That’ll let you know when New Sequelitises are coming out” Funny, Arin, real funny.

[@projectjellyfish4648]

ikr

[@MidnightMuffin]

Well he DOES like to call himself a professional comedian.

[@portagenial]

Best joke in the entire Video, tbh

[@SnekOil]

@@MidnightMuffin Makes people laugh

[@chump_72]

@@SnekOil laughing so hard we cry and cry and cry

[@JoeBob-rc3cp]

"You can click that subscribe button right there, and that'll let you know when a new sequilitis is coming out" The wait has been long, but our vigil holds: we must be ready should the signal come. I am sure it will be any day now...

[@MechanicalRabbits]

he's said many times he doesn't want to do more but I still hold to hope. These videos are both interesting and so funny that they're a joy to rewatch every now and then

[@BradsGonnaPlay]

@@MechanicalRabbits i completely disagree with his opinions in this video and it’s my favorite sequelitis episode to rewatch lol

[@stutterman176]

still waiting, i can wait more

[@charlesmarlowstanfield]

Honestly makes me want to watch the LOTR again.

[@theguy3851]

It's not gonna happen.

[@FlailSnail222]

It’s almost comforting to know that Arin has never changed.

[@bozmundarts2614]

well in a few ways he has changed to the better, erasing most stupidly driven behavior he has shown in the past (that can be considered as bad) but he's kept the good things in him and tried to always learn to be a better person... which is something you dont see all that often... (but yeah he's super sweet and awesome as a person)

[@onemanteam6543]

@@bozmundarts2614 yeah. He’s grown in a lot of really great ways but kept a lot of the old great stuff too :)

[@panthekirb7561]

@@bozmundarts2614 That's a big bruh moment if I've ever seen one. The guy is as close minded about games as the dude he made fun of at the start lol. Only his opinion ever matters.

[@bozmundarts2614]

@@panthekirb7561 boy! Its almost as if its a video talking about his personal opinion with re clarification of it at the very end, ITS ALMOST as if y'all are stiff minded as heck.

[@seansmith6255]

ha you think arin hasn't changed you still have faith that egoraptor is still alive and not replaced by a corporate shill how adorable

[@AnimusPrime87]

“It’s not very hard to do and it’s difficult to mess up”, says the guy with less than three hearts in every clip.

[@Blaze4ification]

Still one of my favorite thing's Egoraptor has ever said... "what am I doing with my life, I am harshly criticizing Ocarina of Time on the Internet. I'M GONNA GET CRUCIFIED!" this was the last we heard of him, no one knows if he was crucified or is in hiding. Sources say Arin Hanson of Game Grumps may know his whereabouts. Edit: this gem is at 17:25... Egoraptor still has not been found to this day, and Arin Hanson of Game Grumps refuses any comments on the matter of his whereabouts, 8 years after this video was made, and 2 since my comment was. Journalists still trying to dig for the truth.

[@bradleydebevoise-ward5591]

Hm, sounds credible, I'll get my team to get into contact with him.

[@kevinmeeker2832]

He does do "walking away from the mic while shouting" moments really well. I like the "NO BIG DEAL" one, too. Maybe he's related to Arin Hanson of Game Grumps.

[@darklight1030]

He's a self proclaimed martyr....

[@vegamineral207]

That's cool, my favorite Egoraptor quote is "OOOOOPSSSZ" 13:03

[@HarmonicVector]

"GUESS GOOFY'S WEIGHT. WIN A PRIZE!' "120 lbs?" "No. *'s too low."*

[@felippesponton]

First time I watched I heard "GUESS GOOFY WAITS, WITH PIE!" "120lbs?" "No. It's too low" haha

[@dylanloveland4590]

@@felippesponton it took me like, 3 years until i could understand what he was saying. and when i finally figured it out i burst out laughing lmao

[@akeral7063]

@@dylanloveland4590 pls explain

[@emilyrasputin]

I don't know why but this moment is one of my favorite parts of this video

[@SkaJrZombie]

SO THAT'S WHAT HE SAID!!

[@TheDankShrimp]

"Wait... attack... wait... attack... IS NOT SO HARD!" And years later... we got Arin Hanson flippin his shit over a god damn clam. lol

[@alanivar2752]

old meme

[@TheDankShrimp]

@@alanivar2752 What are you, the meme police?

[@obscurereference8798]

30:34 so glad I subscribed 8 years ago and got notified of all the new Sequelitis episodes!

[@MrChocodemon]

I still don't know if he liked bomb bowling.

[@acefenton3967]

MrChocodemon I'm sure you know by now, but he hates it. If you watch the clips while he says "Bomb bowling", they all show Link missing, or a explosion (from a bomb) hitting Link. He stated that in Game Grump's last Mario Maker video.

[@kiToro945]

MrChocodemon it's pretty obvious that he hates it considering after he was talking about it he's like FUCK THIS GAME

[@Polarthief]

Ace Fenton It wasn't that clear from the video and I wasn't sure myself until Dan asked him what that was about (because he too didn't know).

[@thatguyinyourshed900]

Alcest9870 so did he like it?

[@acefenton3967]

Ilja Parfjonovs No. Arin hates bomb bowling, and Skyward Sword in general.

[@5hivari]

It's like Nintendo watch this whole entire analysis and taking their notes down. Then create Breath of the Wild.

[@dietsnails8389]

IKR!!

[@OrangeTie99]

I was going to make this comment. Glad to see others recognized it =P

[@Mayeur000Donz]

Honestly, the similarity between Arin's suggestions and the product that is Breath of the Wild is uncanny. The only main difference may show up when we get to see villages and NPCs, which may provide plot-based context to some sidequests, perhaps.

[@Graphomite]

Pardon me, but I have yet to see any dinosaurs in Breath of the Wild.

[@Mayeur000Donz]

Graphomite Well... we had Miyamoto presenting it. Does that count?

[@pureblackeagle]

9 years later, still no fucking idea what his overall point is. All his points are so tiny and minuscule that they don’t even matter, and have no overarching theme.

[@urinator111]

I think the point is "this game is considered a masterpiece, but here are some flaws I think it has"

[@tyler-xo3rb]

i bet you love headlines

[@shalucard107]

Well the point is that you're no longer in control of exploration and combat where waiting is the only thing the enemies do every time.

[@sewerpeople346]

I love sequilitis. Just the way he presents everything and the pacing and the Arin jokes, it's so good it makes me feel so good. I am constantly in a conflict to where I would LOVE more sequilitis but I am also aware that if he was just forced to make more it would be phoned in and it would not be merely as emotional or passionate as these episodes are....so instead I just watch these over and over again. I would love to make a series in honor of sequilitis. It's so good. It's probably my favorite work of arins

[@lordsuinax3470]

Agreed, I love how seamlessly he flows from topic to topic. It's unfortunate that this video is so poorly received. While his opinions didn't agree with the majority, the way he structured the video was incredibly entertaining, which was kind of the whole point.

[@panthekirb7561]

@@lordsuinax3470 The video is really bad when you give it any thought. Watch even parts of the "this is how you don't play" series about Arin playing the Zelda games. All he does is cry because he is bad at the games and refuses to get better. Its like if someone fell into the first pit in a Super Mario game and complained that the game expects you to jump over obstacles.

[@marw9541]

"Phoned in" is the Arin Hanson MO recently

[@Bro-cx2jc]

Someone did a couple episodes of The Fake Sequelitis, but I hate to admit this, the guy's voice just isn't that funny to me. That was what did half of this content for me: Arin has the voice and deliberate inflection of a natural entertainer. I kept WANTING to hear him say more. It was hilarious. It reminded me of this episode of Last Comic Standing where one of the guys had some really funny jokes but he was telling them with this scared voice and expression, and I was like "wtf is wrong with you, if you can't chill out for a small panel of judges then are you really going to make it onstage" it's a bit rough but honest. The judges were laughing some of the time, but I couldn't, even though the jokes were legit funny. If someone like Arin told them, I would have been rolling on the floor.

[@SmoothRiker]

I like how Dan references this video all the time and is a genuine fan of his buddy's work. I want a friend like Dan.

[@dochallah1721]

Everyone does

[@cusionmon6652]

He's a really cool dude but he's such a yes man to everything Arin says, I'd like it if Dan could say just once something that combats with Arin's point of view.

[@zerekbasch9988]

Cusionmon maybe that's because danny actually agrees with what arin says.

[@cusionmon6652]

I mean when Arin says stupid stuff without justifying it or giving a good example and Dan just takes his word for it, like with sonic Arin is very rarely fair with Sonic, and I know that most of his games aren't great but he never gives a good reason why he clumps all the games together when he doesn't even give the original trilogy a chance. Dan just agrees with him when he knows nothing about Sonic. An example of someone being fair with sonic even when they don't really like him would be Vinny from Vinesauce. Vinny said that he disliked sonic as a kid because the commercials for genesis told him how to hate and he could never really get into Sonic because of those experiences. Despite that he still gave Sonic a chance by playing through Sonic 3 and Knuckles with Imakuni, and by the end he said that he really enjoyed it.

[@vimy-joneskatusa8405]

Cusionmon or the subway conversation

[@SparoTheSpider]

"That'll let you know when new Sequilitises are coming out" best joke of the video.

[@avalanche0238]

Hahahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahahha! xD

[@cobaltprime9467]

Back here after TOTK. Gotta say, they did what Arin wanted in BOTW and only expanded on them now. Cave exploration, it’s own take on the dark world/future world, and they made our dungeon companions super useful. When the Sages in Ocarina gave us their seals, they said we got their power… but no we did not. Now the Sages have unique abilities and fight along side you. This Sequelitis criticisms were fixed and exceeded imho. Edit: Oh and like BOTW they have actual puzzles that army whacking a diamond or shooting an eyeball. And they’re FUN! I hate when I find a “Rauru’s Gift” shrine where all I did was find it in a cave. That’s not hard. At least have me carry the crystal thru the cave. Other than that, they’re all fun!

[@ElvenRaptor]

No, they didn't. ToTK is somehow even less of a Zeld agame than BotW was. The dungeons are just gone now, replaced with single puzzle rooms.

[@bruce000000070000000]

Even though I really like those games their dungeons are hot garbage, and the puzzles can be cheesed in so many different ways that they’re very often underwhelming

[@indumatipngtuber2790]

My favorite part of Game Grumps was when Arin died repeated to a Shell Blade in the water temple and ragequit Majora's Mask cuz he couldn't beat Gomess. :)

[@simonsaysitall]

"You should never, ever, ever, ever, ever reach that point where you're like ah I'll check that room later----IN A GAME ABOUT CHECKING ROOMS"

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

That is literally only a player preference

[@lowstandards3148]

@@AkameGaKillfan777 yeah I don’t think I’ve ever said I’ll check that room later in a Zelda game 😅

[@far2ez539]

@@lowstandards3148 As a kid, you check every room. As an adult, you know that the game will send you there later so you don't bother.

[@Bollibompa]

@@far2ez539 Not really.

[@junkdog4138]

I feel like through playing oot and majoras mask there’s a lot of times where I’m like, “what other items can I find before I go where I think is the main path to the boss” i wouldn’t say that’s a bad thing

[@GavinAeilts]

Looking at something critically is fine, being objectively wrong about your criticisms is not fine.

[@folksurvival]

Ok, but he wasn't objectively wrong.

[@reanimated0]

Regardless of Arin's opinions, I love the comedy of this

[@Genji_Glove]

I love Ocarina of Time as much as the next guy, but every piece of criticism Arin gives is absolutely correct. It doesn't mean it's any less of a good game. Every game has flaws. Appreciate Arin for having the balls to point it out. This was an extremely interesting and informative video.

[@InvaderGIR98]

I felt the treasure chest thing was a little nitpicky, but he did have a lot of good points.

[@FrameGame]

Joey Matheny I grew up with all the Zelda games, and the treasure chest thing is something that I noticed myself! I always got incredibly excited to see a treasure chest, but now I don't feel that excited because I can usually guess what it's going to be before I even open it. But getting the big key was always like, "YES!!!! NOW I CAN GO OPEN THAT HUGE AWESOME LOOKING CHEST AND DESTROY THE BOSS!!!!" See the difference? It goes from "I'M SO EXCITED!!!!!" to... "meh... lame... another compass."

[@tomcruisecantlose1130]

If you truly love something- you admit it's flaw's, accept them, and continue loving it

[@ultimateformal]

I like this comment.

[@Genji_Glove]

Nycro 1) Comment makes perfect sense. 2) Doesn't realise I whore myself to Arin and not Zelda fanbases. 0/10

[@aidanmasterson]

Arin During Sequelitis: "Ah yes, The amazing Controls are easy to learn and use." Arin During Gameplay: "HOW DO I FUCKING DO THIS SHIT!"

[@legomemekid123]

AutomaticRogue I understand what you're trying to convey but why put it in quotations, it doesn't look smart

[@aidanmasterson]

idk, seemed like something he'd say. I'm not really trying to 'convey' a point, just making a joke.

[@legomemekid123]

AutomaticRogue Yeah, sorry I get you, I get worked up over dumb things when I'm annoyed

[@aidanmasterson]

all good :)

[@TheSpinia]

" I get worked up over dumb things" that's half of the comment section nowadays.

[@Noah-vm7yl]

If there’s a hazard moving in a defined circular pattern and it hits while you’re not paying attention to your surroundings that’s the game’s fault.

[@SniperDiplomat]

I just beat OoT for the first time and rewatched this video and holy moly I can't relate to any of these points. I can't even figure out Arin's logic half the time. It's like delirious rambling from point to point with no coherence. At one point he complains that... you come across locked doors and need to explore to find a key. At other points, he claims there's no exploration in the game, which leads me to think he doesn't know what exploration means or that games with linear sequences of events can still have it. It's honestly shocking how well OoT holds up. The pacing and world design are picture-perfect, and the rest of the series can't really touch it in those regards.

[@oomar4597]

currently playing oot and godamn do i hate this piece of shit game. Camera is so fucking ass its insane sometimes

[@NoriakiCuckyoin]

@@oomar4597 ok

[@ceinpou337]

Arin: I hate how modern Zelda grabs you by the hand all the time. Also Arin: WTF DO I DO!!!!

[@MitoseNorikoFan]

Because he doesn't want to sit around reading bullshit just to know where to go. If the game can't tell you how to do something purely from intuition, then it's not well designed for an explorative adventure game.

[@LucaxCorp]

Neilson Truong - If he’s not willing to read the text then it’s still his fault he doesn’t know where to go. If he can’t even do that much maybe he should stick to linear games where he can’t get lost.

[@lilkxdude5659]

@@LucaxCorp Thats his point though. Ocarina of Time is more linear than 'open world'. Most of the time its literally finding an item and using it on a block way to get to another segment of the exact same thing. If you need to read to progress in an 'open world' game then thats not good.

[@kiwi110]

@@lilkxdude5659 But Ocarina of time never tried or wanted to be an open world game. If it was made to be an open world game then of course it'd fail at that, but that's the point: Ocarina of Time is story focused and linear while games like Breath of the wild give you all the freedom you want. Both are good at what they're doing. If you like them or not is up to personal preference.

[@veintrain8072]

I like how this guy tried to make an Egoraptor sucks at videogame meme, but he didn't know he stepped into a fucking warzone

[@Zimran03]

If this is truly his opinion, he is going to love Breath of the Wild

[@Zimran03]

***** You totally misread my commet.

[@Zimran03]

***** Sorry but can you read? Is said if this is really what he wants in a 3D Zelda game, he will love Breath of the Wild. A 3D Zelda game with what he says he wants is in it.

[@Zimran03]

***** Umm no. I don't think you understand tone at all. No one is raging. All that happens was was that i said he would like something based from his opinion. I didn't question his opinion at all.

[@danielscott9026]

Smokio You trollin? Lol

[@Zimran03]

***** it hasn't even gone wrong. It started bad when you assumed I said something i didn't

[@minilinkmask3650]

so ocarina of time is why im more patient then my siblings

[@HappyBlite]

19:06 well, would you look at that Arin. Tears of the Kingdom made it real 🎉

[@Atamastra]

There have been SO many goddamn times playing BotW (and now TotK) where I would think back to this amazing commentary vid and genuinely wonder if they watched Arin's analysis and REALLY took it to heart. Because he is so directly on point with his critique and the Switch Zelda games are such a profound, invigorating, mind-blowing breath of fresh air that recaptured that feeling of eager exploration, rewarded curiosity, and versatile resourcefulness of the OG Zelda.

[@m3oc]

9:11 Arin fighting the clam: “it’s not very hard to do!” Me: OH IS IT NOT, ARIN????

[@estebancanelo2649]

My exact reaction

[@VGamingJunkie]

His playthrough begs to differ. Reminds me of DSP insisting the boss on Dark Souls that took him over an hour to beat wasn't hard.

[@bloodlustrous]

@@VGamingJunkie But like... a clam isn't a dark souls boss? It's hard to be patient when you're dealing with a clam because there's no good reason that the clam should be a threat, and it shouldn't block your progress.

[@VGamingJunkie]

@@bloodlustrous Dear me, you seem to think I was comparing their difficulties. I'm saying that insisting something that's kicking your ass isn't actually hard. If it wasn't hard, he wouldn't have kept dying.

[@tetherhandle]

“FUCKING CLAAAYUM!!”

[@cryzfizzlepop7555]

People come for Arin's opinion to argue it or agree with it. Me? I'm here for Arin's insanity.

[@dannyflintstone7003]

Who's Arin? I only see Egoraptor. Arin would be a nice guest tho

[@samandcheese_1225]

Well, same actually

[@ArvexYT]

Some people are here for all three.

[@darewestallen]

Really

[@roboryan3496]

The reason I clicked was for the same reason, my guy XD

[@deadwejght5357]

There's a lot of nit picking going on here. ALTTP was a great Zelda game but not on the level OOT was in terms of world building. I gave no shits about anything in LTTP the characters meant nothing to me at all. And when I finished the game as fun as it was i forgot about it and stopped caring it gave me nothing to come back to. LTTP was good among the best of Zelda games but there is a reason its not taken seriously when greatest games of all time is brought up.

[@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734]

OK, and your comment sounds like the opposite of Nitpicking, a.k.a. ass kissing…

[@topfranluis1]

By making fun of the Spinner, you have officially provoked a gang war

[@boibleu22]

Still waiting on that new episode of Sequelitis

[@jacobhuitzil8070]

Would like an appetizer while your waiting~

[@tseraff941]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha thats not happening

[@Naterkix]

Yeeeeeeah... No. I'm 96.89% sure that's not gonna happen.

[@cracknut28]

Got any mozzarella sticks?

[@jamesryker5128]

The guy in the comments I think we know why...

[@hunt3r_OW]

There is so much...god damn waiting for an egoraptor upload

[@Sasukeuchiha131000]

Profile picture twinsies

[@hunt3r_OW]

ThatGuyWithTheFace

[@Sasukeuchiha131000]

[@GamingAnimator1]

Gooty cuz he's too busy with game grumps which I personally don't enjoy at all. I think game grumps is annoying, unfunny, and I can barely sit through one minute of a video. I liked it back when egoraptor did these kinds of videos. But sadly it seems like those days are long gone.

[@sebastianconway9177]

Gooty : savage

[@Barquevious_Jackson]

Isn't it funny that Arin divided this video from the others in the series by grouping the other three in a playlist called season 1? That means he wanted this to be the start of another season! There might of been more!

[@marw9541]

Too bad he's lazy

[@BryceD515]

Oh Arin's gonna love Breath of the Wild

[@trinitylynne4693]

I KNOW RIGHT? when I was watching the trailer and looked at nintendos description I couldnt stop thinking about Arin! I want to know his opinions on it!!!

[@QuintMarvel]

The bats have eyes, and there are markers on the map. 0/10

[@MysteryMii]

And there's no "Bomb Bowling".

[@Link2000Thor]

Uhm, Keese* have eyes. xD (Seriously though, what the fuck nintendo,did someone Trademark Bat in 86?

[@raz1791]

But stamina bar tho.... :/

[@nosoyarkano7624]

Hello, I come from the year 2020, it's 13:40 PM, Monday 1, February, And Egoraptor has finally uploaded a new sequelitis.

[@justinbrennan8409]

Yes !!!!

[@justinbrennan8409]

Pretty much

[@nosoyarkano7624]

+Thomas Jackson I was just making a little joke about how Sequelitis is like Starfox series, Arin can have his life and I'm ok with it. Geez, man, take it easy.

[@nosoyarkano7624]

Oh ok, that "Entitled whiny shits" really made me think you were on a bad mood.

[@terminakiller3819]

lies you posted this in 2016

[@shinobi197]

I am a big fan of Arin Hanson whoever there is something that must be said of this video. This is just Arin being biased. He obviously likes a link to the past better since by his own words he hates being told what to do in game. A link to the past is arguably worse since they straight up tell you which one to go next while on ocarina of time its just the first 3 that get the railroady treatment. By his own critique of the game the original Legend of Zelda is the best game since you could go anywhere yet he keeps comparing it to a link to the past. Not to mention that he is obviously playing the game wrong. The closest I would compare it to is to trying to play a Souls game with a shield, its doable but it will increase the waiting time longer since that time could've been used to advance the state of whatever fight you are currently doing. Sad thing is he will never read this since he has gone on record that he doesnt read comments anymore, but it had to be said. Thanks to whoever took the time to read this hope you had a nice day.

[@Ayyem93]

I just fundamentally disagree, well aware I'm biased as n64 was my first console and OOT my first Zelda game but still. Games like the last two and others like it in different franchises have never appealed to me, having the option to do whatever you want is good to a certain extent but when it goes so far as to feel directionless like BOTW etc it just loses its fun.

[@nightfolk]

as I rewatch this today, I wonder how blissful and liberating Egoraptor might have felt when playing Breath of the Wild - it basically responds to all of his critiques about Ocarina of Time's 'open' world

[@mcarroll9270]

You should watch the let's play of him playing Breath of the Wild on the Game Grumps channel. He loves it and keeps raving about how cool and fun it is.

[@nightfolk]

thanks so much for the tip! I'll go check it out

[@nightfolk]

that, my dude, was a precious tip! I did not know about game grumps and now I'm hooked watching them talk about Breath of the Wild and enjoying it a lot! thanks so much

[@skynet010]

juca oliveira a month ago was when u found out about gamegrumps?!he fucking made a video on this channel about it like 4-5 fucken years ago. when it was starting with jontron an now with danny. geez what have u been doing with your life.

[@nightfolk]

haha I know I know, it's just that I hadn't really been following egoraptor! I had come across this sequilitis video long ago and then when I finished BOTW, I remembered this and came to rewatch it! the game grumps are amazing though, and I've been thoroughly enjoying their content since I found out about them

[@elijahayers2429]

Man, it has been 5 years since the last Sequelitis. The one he's working on now must be crazy if it's been 5 years in the making!

[@McThiccums69]

Bruh I wish

[@risdio51]

How....how do I break this to you...

[@nman625]

Retro Studio fans be like:

[@genjy8635]

Barry's been doing some good ones on his channel

[@elijahlunt276]

@@nman625 I felt that

[@NidotheKing]

Ocarina of Time is the perfect adventure to me. It flows well while not being heavy on exploration. I want a quest, clear-cut and direct. That's just my taste.

[@emmamoreno5590]

That is respectable. Not my style, but I can understand why so many love it. I don’t like reading or being told what to do, therefore BoTW is my favorite. So, I suspect we are two sides of the Zelda fan base coin

[@onemanteam6543]

@@emmamoreno5590 My take is interesting because I kind of love reading and being told what to do but I still prefer games like BOTW because I have more appreciation for the finesse it takes to pull them off. You have to make a world that engrosses me in its own right, even if there isn’t some direct quest or story to keep me engaged. You have to make infinite paths through the game that are compelling instead of essentially one. It’s like Arin says iirc-there’s like a Zelda ride and you’ve gotta hit all the specific stops and go through the gift shop on the way out, as opposed to the skill required to design something that the developers trust will be engaging even if you don’t hit this specific cutscene that makes it look cool.

[@JohnMatayas]

I see now why this is the last sequelitis. Way to drop the ball here.

[@whatthefrack1220]

2015: oh arin is just taking his time with the next sequaltis 2016: i bet he's making a 2 parter or a hour long vid 2017:please answer my prayer arin, make the next sequaltis 2018:God is Dead, he has forsaken us for our sin of believing Ocarina of time is better than a link to the past.

[@deboreynolds]

Cadaverta 123 I'm from the near future... Sequelitis is dead bro.

[@saxgod3266]

2022:oh hey he made that sequeltis

[@lightningshy5287]

I honestly think it's dead now because of this one. Because I guess apparently the really immature Zelda geeks couldn't handle his opinion of this game.

[@ryancote9821]

I remember him telling dan in a not so recent game grumps episode that he wanted to do a sequelitis for BotW so keep your fingers crossed!

[@BroadcasterRed]

+Lightning Shy mean, I don't know why Arin would give a single fuck about the stupid Zelda geeks, look at the video, look at them 250K likes, dude he KNOWS that VASTLY more people like these videos than not. Maybe its because he's doing Star Bomb and goes on tours for that and he's doing grumps (which he also goes on tour for) And he had his youtube red show... I think the guys free time to do sequelitis is non-existent

[@VaatiVidya]

soooooo basically dark souls

[@A-Duck]

YOU. I like you. You give me a funny feeling in my pantsicles. Praise the sun.

[@zombieplasticclock]

Like an older, rudimentary Dark Souls. Man that'd be something, wouldn't it? If instead of the Dynasty Warriors/Zelda crossover that's coming up if instead it was a Souls/Zelda crossover

[@EndyMMG]

zombieplasticclock PRAISE THE TRIFORCE!! The.... Sun... force... PRAISE THE SUNFORCE!!

[@frairf]

thats what i was thinking!

[@idolikefruit5592]

:3 hi ....haha its funny cause i was think dark souls as well xD a sense of exploration an that feeling of you can go anywhere and challenge and such...yeah okay bye vaati :3 love your vids an your awesome

[@Xankar1]

Arin really was like, a very different person back in this era. Its so, unfamiliar now, despite this being the Arin most people knew cause of his animation days.

[@Wythological]

Deku Nuts, bombs, boomerang, links epic movement variety, etc... stop waiting and start using tools at your disposal to kill enemies js.

[@BananaMana69]

Yeah you can kill Stalfos in like 5 seconds if you don't suck.

[@drowningmerman4256]

@@BananaMana69 But trying is hard!

[@Gregsplays]

i really wanna see him do another one of these about BoTW now

[@TidySage]

never gonna happen, unfortunately :( he's dead and has been replaced by a wannabe pop star

[@phantomnite]

@@Obscured-thing no it's 4 years old lol. It's closing in on 5 years

[@Obscured-thing]

@Kynan Bunce :/

[@seandaemon]

@@TidySage lol what

[@TidySage]

@@seandaemon yeah this is old Arin, the Arin of today is someone who doesn't animate anymore :/

[@spencergallucci5309]

"Wait, attack. It's not hard to do!" *gets killed by clams endlessly in both ocarina and majoras mask on gg*

[@veintrain8072]

Mans didn't even use his shield

[@KarmaticFluff]

And im pretty sure he hasnt beaten the bat demon guy in the stone temple

[@MarioLuigiTheBomb]

Spencer Gallucci I HATE THOSE F*CKING CLAMS

[@cheesedip1]

I think hes talking about how tedious the game is

[@razzledcroaker3678]

To be fair, he's never really tried that hard. He's said before he doesn't really focus on gsmeplay during playthroughs, choosing just to roll through and have fun. Plus, he already hates the games, so it's kinda like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[@OverTonesOfLevi]

All I ever got out of this is that Arin has ADD and doesn't know that deku nuts are a thing.

[@redstealth5106]

And bbbbooommmmmbbbbbb bbbbbbbooowwlliinngggggggg

[@TheMooper27]

Arin really sugested an escort mission as a way to improve OOT 😂

[@ImFangzBro]

Escort missions suck because the escort is useless to you. Arin suggested an ally who can help you and hold their own to a degree.

[@epsilon6516]

​@@ImFangzBronope, escort missions suck in every single game. Even Deep Rock Galactic has stupid escort missions, which is an apt comparison because it's another game about exploration and combat, but the escort missions take away the exploration half and make you follow a strict path and stay close to an npc ally. Especially since all the escort does is drill, and one of the four playable classes is literally called the driller. DRG is a bastion of good game design with open ended exploration and combat that go hand in hand just like Ego is talking about, but escort missions are a blight upon a nearly masterpiece of a game. TL;DR escort missions suck in every game

[@antennahead4978]

​@@epsilon6516 your whole argument just says how escorting was bad in drg that doeant mean it cant be implemented correctly

[@LethalByte69]

​@@epsilon6516 Overwatch's payload game mode is very fun, but it is a PVP game, so it's different ig

[@epsilon6516]

@@LethalByte69 payload is boring as hell in overwatch. The only good game modes are king of the hill and ctf blitz

[@phychomaniac26]

It’s crazy to look back at this after playing breath of the wild. Almost all of his criticism was addressed

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

psychomaniac26 Arin is a hack though

[@Thomas-sv2ez]

Mild Monster no u

[@canudigitsuker]

its funny cause he even said that in the play through

[@Awlorein]

Almost a decade later

[@elliottrogers735]

Ikr I was thinking the whole time “well BOTW took care of that” “BOTW solved that”

[@yoyofargo]

This video has so much more context when you know Arin doesn't know he has a shield in OoT.

[@VGInterviews]

or any other item for that matter, but yes, playing OoT without ever removing the hover boots does make it go slower

[@harshal1153]

@@satan-kun8974 It also has a lot more stratagy

[@yoyofargo]

@@satan-kun8974 There are a lot of enemies who if you just let hit you when your shield is up they open their hit window sooner and more predictably. But yeah there's still so much god damn waiting in this game. I'm looking at you mr sqeaky ass zora.

[@TerryVideoZone]

@@satan-kun8974 every enemy he uses as an example for this point has a way to open up their guard lol

[@ianreynolds4556]

@@satan-kun8974 Deku nuts for a start.

[@MrWillwildfire]

Arin they added a goron that helps you fight

[@mimic_media]

I wonder how much of this he still stands behind

[@juanjimenez.6]

I can swear Nintendo watched this. At least one person there HAD to. BOTW even has a mechanic in which a Goron follows you almost exactly like you sketched it. He does not eat rocks but still.

[@exoticorc1544]

Juan Jiménez wrong, gorons do eat rocks because in OoT you have to go through dodongos cavern to allow them to eat rocks again so that follower has to eat rocks

[@Xcizior]

lol, juan was talking about it not being a mechanic, not saying that 'no gorons eat rocks'. goofy buns.

[@juanjimenez.6]

Yeah precisely. They DO eat rocks, but the mechanic in BOTW does not consist in eating rocks. There's a goron following you which is a little bit what Egoraptor described in the video.

[@eap415]

NO, that's a coincidence, Phantom Hourglass already had that mechanic which came out before this video.

[@juanjimenez.6]

Phantom Hourglass's is a little different, but you are right.

[@linebeck1381]

You can tell that this isn’t gameplay from Arin because you see that the player uses the shield.

[@chrisallison8304]

And the player is actually good at the game.

[@fidget0227]

I wouldn’t compare someone playing the game to gather footage for their persuasive video essay with someone playing while only half paying attention (at best)

[@Left4Cake]

I think it's pretty clear Arin wouldn't use his experience from game grumps to write a detailed essay on a game...

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

@@fidget0227 Except in this video he still fights most enemies by either impatiently mashing B, or by using his inconsistent and unsatisfying "wait, attack" method. He also never killed the shellblade.

[@danawalpole2216]

Shields are worthless in Oot honestly unless your unskilled or speedrunning the absolute only times a shield is required or is the only viable option is the three deku scrubs at the deku tree before ghoma and the short time in the spirit temple as well as the one sun in ganons castle. Otherwise there are better or faster methods Edit: ganons castle sun cus derp

[@epicgamner1139]

the editing is top notch in these jeez

[@misterbennnn]

"You can click that subscribe button, and that'll let you know when mote Sequelitises are coming out." [Last online: 7 years ago]

[@sinteleon]

Waiting for the inevitable Sequelitis part 2 with Breath of the Wild..

[@samuelphillips2090]

You got a ways to go then buddy....

[@geico105]

Arin rarely beats games, so there's no way he can complete Breath of the Wild within 13 years.

[@samuelphillips2090]

Why does he hate the stamina so much again?

[@TheMattharrington123]

I think it had to do with the fact that it doesn't do anything but screw you over.

[@samuelphillips2090]

How so? Could you be a little more specific?

[@momosaysnono4993]

Fun fact: if you read through the comments in Top Comments first mode, the comments progressively get more salty and butt hurt

[@thecomments2099]

I'm 9 years late But this guy is NOT cooking

[@aTalkingPizza]

As someone who grew up playing both games, he makes a lot of good points imo

[@TeamBelmont91]

​@@aTalkingPizzaIf you're taking points from a burnt out sellout seriously, you need to reevaluate plenty of things about your life, my guy.

[@foxhoundslug]

​@@aTalkingPizzausername checks out

[@ElvenRaptor]

@@aTalkingPizzaNot really.

[@mohammedu7105]

I first played ocarina of time when i was 14. I've been gaming since i was 7 and i can confidently say, besides Minecraft for the memories i have with it, Ocarina of Time is my favourite game and has been for years. Ive since played TP and SS, and currently playing ALTTP, but OOT i still replay to this day with randomizers and such, its so much fun! And has a great story and soundtrack.

[@luckypiee]

"Hey man that's low." _"So's my interest in playing you again."_ //Casually looks over to the Skyward Sword playthrough on GG

[@nexongn]

Yeah... but that is mostly Dan’s fault

[@bensjammin9]

I’m so happy they’re playing SS. I’ve wanted that ever since this video.

[@ComradeGrimmGames]

nexogen, It's no one's 'fault', it's a great playthrough.

[@thegreatmajora5089]

He spends like 10-15 of that playthrough complaining about how much he doesn’t want to do it

[@jacksypher3403]

To be fair it took 4 years and an april fools episode for him to even consider it. He plays it reluctantly I might add

[@camatzuma]

Your prayers have been answered with breath of the wild

[@notoriousb.i.g4200]

BaNaNa munch breath of the wild

[@camatzuma]

Thx changed it

[@Pvsn08]

BaNaNa munch you could say it was... A BREATH OF FRESH AIR

[@camatzuma]

Delete this comment immediately

[@Pvsn08]

BaNaNa munch NEVER *runs away*

[@yourgameisstupid]

"The reward was the fact that you did it, not that you found a thing." Odd thing to say, considering how obtuse the original Zelda is.

[@TheXtremeBoltGuy]

Also the whole thing about newer games and hand holding makes no sense considering the original straight up tells you "Hey, you NEED the manual if you wanna get anywhere in this game"

[@gavinwilson5324]

@@TheXtremeBoltGuy NES Zelda never says you NEED to read the manual. The closest it gets is saying "For more information, see the manual." It suggests you give it a read, but also conveys everything you need to know within the game itself.

[@gavinwilson5324]

I don't get why people say NES Zelda is excessively obtuse. The whole point of the game is to spend time exploring and gradually learning the ins and outs of the world. If there were clear indicators of every single thing, the exploration wouldn't be interesting.

[@yourgameisstupid]

@@gavinwilson5324 That is an extraordinarily charitable (i.e. asinine) interpretation, given how many essential things are totally hidden in ways that "gradually leaning the ints and outs" provide no help for whatsoever (e.g. things hidden underneath totally inconspicuous bushes).

[@gavinwilson5324]

@@yourgameisstupid They're not essential, though. It's mostly just heart containers (which you get plenty of from dungeons) and secret shops (which just give you better prices for the same items as regular shops). The game rewards you for being thorough, but by no means requires it.

[@axlsmith6005]

So many years later, still watch this from time to time.

[@rajgus7638]

Same Think I've watched it like once every two or so years since 2015😅

[@lite64]

Woah, people just can't respect opinions, can they? This video was out in over 6 months and we are still discussing about it right now! That's very impressive, even for someone as famous as Egoraptor. Anyway, I'm gonna be honest, I only got the chance to play both Ocarina of Time and A Link to the Past last year. From my point of view, they're both great games. I'm not sure which one is better, but I definetely liked them. Now, it's pretty obvious that Arin doesn't like OoT. And that is perfectly fine, he _does_ have the right to think so. And everybody else who agrees with him is fine too. But oh God, this comment section is just full of idiots who are calling him "biased" for bashing this game! You know what? He isn't biased. It's just that he has a different view than ours, and we should respect that. OoT just wasn't the game he wanted. If you want my opinion, I actually REALLY disagree with almost everything he said. But not even that stopped me from giving this video a thumbs up. He showed his reasoning pretty well and it was just as hilarious as the previous Sequelitis's(?) (What even is the plural of that word?!?!). No game is for everyone, not even the one that is said to be the best of all time. Like I said, I _do_ like OoT a lot, but that doesn't mean everyone should do the same.

[@lemusthealien]

I FEEL YOU! I definitely disagree with him entirely, and I think his views on zelda are ridiculous, but I respect his opinion and I'm not just gonna force him to change it because I disagree with him, I'm just gonna disagree and make my points.

[@lite64]

shadowliam7 Exactly! There's nothing wrong with not liking this game.

[@lemusthealien]

joão carlos I do think it's pretty stupid how people still consider this game overrated though.

[@lite64]

shadowliam7 Yeah, OoT is getting more haters than fans.

[@lemusthealien]

joão carlos Yet everyone still thinks this game is overrated! That makes no sense!

[@Just_a_Tool]

I think he hates Skyward Sword.

[@tepes6563]

What makes you think that?

[@Just_a_Tool]

Cereal Killer Hmm, I dunno... I just can't put my finger on it...

[@Other_Kev]

But it added bombowl.

[@PabloLink74]

Yes it would, just because it's the first in the timeline doesn't mean it created the series

[@kazuichisouda2026]

hylians wouldn't go to the surface if link didn't go there to save zelda so no it wouldn't