Season 2 of Scream Queens is Hot Garbage... and Here's Why

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tags (ignore( denise hempfield, chanel oberlin, scream queens season 2 deep dive review, analysis, reaction, emma roberts, Zayday, why scream queens failed, season 3, recap

[@tynehazel007]

One reason for seasons 2’s downfall was less screen time with Niecy Nash! She was the comedic relief!

[@angelaholmes8888]

Yes she definitely was brilliant 🤗

[@alyssarose3880]

She was !😂

[@nicematerial]

She's why I watched in the first place!

[@quentinflacko24]

Even on season 1 when she wasn't on it it was kinda boring when she was on screen pure gold

[@emmanueltembo357]

i loved her

[@martirecu3010]

Never understood why Grace's dad was going after the Chanels for Grace having been traumatised when Hester's the one who killed people - at least Dr. Cassidy and the nurse have alright motives.

[@heavenswitch]

he always hated them for being in the sorority and he had the same motivations as hester (mutual dislike) also hester is his daughter

[@martirecu3010]

@@heavenswitch My problem's that he justified himself as "avenging" Grace when that was not the Chanels, it was the killings

[@AnaLopez-cn9cn]

I think he was angry that none of them visited her and blamed the sorority as a whole for the murders

[@fetchslaybffr]

@@martirecu3010they made up anything just to cover the fact that grace actor couldn’t come back for season two and decided to complete college

[@weronikalinda4917]

I don't get why they keep joking about Number 5 being so undesirable noone wants to date her - she literally had two boyfriends at the same time at one point in season one.

[@SerenaSkybourne]

i know right haha

[@KyleALarkins]

She’s the Gretchen to Chanel’s Regina is all, lol.

[@Mukiukiuki]

YESS DRAG HER , I loved the first season and the second was such a shame . They should have changed everything and do what American horror story did

[@ryanb4940]

Yes! Don’t follow the same characters, use the same actors in new roles and new location. They should have done literally anything else because the hospital was an awful decision. Coulda been good if it was similar to Ratched on Netflix… but ughhh it was non stop no laughs and full cringe

[@bajabl]

S2 was so BORING!

[@EllieC130]

I will say I rooted hard for Chanel No 5 and was super proud for her when she passed her test without cheating like 1 and 3. 3 on the other hand I think regressed to being boring which just made me super sad.

[@trinaq]

One major reason for Season 2's low quality is that many of the references were stuck to 2016, the year it was released, which makes it seem rather dated to anyone watching years later. Plus, they reduced the roles of fan favourite character like Denise and Chad.

[@birdword111]

Oh but let's not forget that Chanel #5 actually got an amazing score on the MCAT without cheating. At least she has that going for her and the others can go screw off!

[@tparkerevans7165]

Even tho season 2 is a step down to season 1 I still really enjoyed the season with its hospital setting, Chanel #5 being a lot more likable and showing her strengths, Chanel #3 and Dr. Cassidy’s relationship, Zayday being the main lead, the gore, and episode 9 is my favorite Ep in the series. I’m still hoping we’re getting a season 3

[@chandrawagner4061]

Oh good, I thought I was the only one who still really enjoyed it!

[@emeiso]

We're.

[@jas5519]

i'm still mad they wrote zayday off the last 3 episodes

[@yilakhailemariam8842]

Season 2 was so poorly thought out. I don’t understand how the quality of writing dropped so much.

[@SerenaSkybourne]

what happened?! haha it was so bad

[@angelaholmes8888]

Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing god it was a trainwreck 😱🤯

[@godisjihyo3615]

its like every season of american horror story. ryan murphy can start something in an amazing way, but then it spirals down to mediocrity

[@godisjihyo3615]

btw not literally EVERY season, but quite a few ESPECIALLY the newest one

[@Theatre_Girl63095]

The reason that Grace wasn't in season 2 was because Skyler Samuels who played Grace decided to finish getting her degree at Stanford. I read that she had taken a year off to film season 1 but went back instead of doing season 2

[@rafaelvianaart]

They should replaced her. 😩😩😩

[@justabruin]

I still think something fishy happened. I'm calling a clash with Emma and Lea.

[@mischievousjr.9299]

​@@justabruinprobably, now that I think about, it's plausible

[@alejandroalvarado4178]

@@justabruinit’s possible but it’s not so far fetched that she didn’t want return to finished her degrees. Either way she made a good decision not returning since it’s wasn’t a good season.

[@yugiohlover101]

This was such a disappointment to watch in real time having loved season 1. The only joke I remember laughing at in season 2 was Hester standing over Chanel's bed menacingly because when she's bored she thinks about murder.

[@angelaholmes8888]

I totally hate season 2 it's pure hot garbage god it wasn't even funny to me I wasn't surprised the show got canceled the season was a big step down 😬😖🤢🤮😡🤬

[@gingerkatherina]

Does anyone here know "Blood Queens"? It's the selfmade Scream Queens inspired series by Gabi (Fancy Vlogs by Gab) here on KZbin. She even owns some original wardrobe pieces and included them. I enjoyed her take a lot and she had great ideas for a solid continuation of the plot over her seasons. I think there were 4 seasons in total with 6 10Minute Episodes each 🤔

[@blesbeauty1018]

I used to be obsessed with blood queens

[@gingerkatherina]

@@blesbeauty1018 I still am 🤫

[@s.s2826]

A completely boring mess from start to finish. But was I surprised? No. It's a Ryan Murphy show after all 🙄 Season two had a lot of potential but the writers decided to waste it.

[@lizanya6433]

the mistreatment of chanel #5 in season one was funny, but in season two it genuinely pissed me off especially when her boyfriend died i was fuming.

[@rafaelvianaart]

I’ll NEVER understand WHY they changed EVERYTHING! They cut everything that was built in that cliffhanger from the season 1 finale. The Chanels were locked in that asylum, Hester were the victim and Ms. Munsch couldn’t do anything because Hester knewt to much. GRACE WAS MISSING!!! From the campus with all of these opened plotlines right into a HOSPITAL???? Like, OUT OF NOWHERE!!!!?????? All of that plot was completely deleted for that horrible season 2. I’ll never forgive Ryan Murphy for what he did to that series. It could be a lot better that it ended up being...💔💔💔💔

[@utopiaurora]

Please react to Why Women Kill season 1! In my opnion a great series but the season 2 has the same issues💀

[@handsoaphandsoap]

All Ryan Murphy shows share this same issue of having a solid premise and tend to start out pretty strong but then end up not following through on what grabbed the viewer in the first place and just meanders around whatever bullshit they thought of the day when writing a given episode. All his shows tend to have a solid structure but you can’t make a house out of just a good structure and paper mache. You’re also gonna need wood, concrete, a roof, windows, doors, etc. He’d be a far stronger showrunner if he just knew to edit his ideas down and remove all the unnecessary crap that doesn’t compliment the main storyline, and also to know when to call it quits and not jump the shark. That’s why AHS is his best work, as each season is it’s own isolated story so when one season is done with, he can just move on to something else and won’t have to build upon a flimsy foundation that was never intended to be expanded on.

[@NEWBOTANICA]

Im sorry but i disagree with the majority, Yes s1 is superior by a long shot but s2 of scream queens is just so bad its good? you know? Like Jason x or Jason vs freddy. Like neither r good but they're so bad its just fun to watch...

[@MrAngelcortescano]

First!! Love U! Love Scream Queens S1 and S2 is ok 😅💖💖💖

[@jennclough3108]

Tbh how did they cancel this show with 1.44 million viewers while American horror story: Nyc had like 240k views in episode 4 and didnt cancel it..

[@tylerkochman1007]

AHC is not network, it’s cable. They could have at least moved this to cable or streaming, though

[@andi3404]

i enjoyed both seasons a lot but if we’re doing a critical appraisal, i definitely agree with the critics. i do hate the trashing on number 5 though, i think they could have done that without it being excessive

[@DIVINE_S0UL]

It definitely isn’t as good as season 1 but personally in my opinion it doesn’t deserves to be horrendous they tried something new, it’s met to be experimental on their own take of horror comedy satire yk, my biggest issue was the new Chanel’s got 0 screen time

[@justabruin]

I totally think something toxic happened between some of the girls and Skyler Samuels. I mean, this was a set with Emma Roberts and Lea Michele. 😂 She claims she left for school but she doesn't really follow anyone from the cast and doesn't talk about it. I think Grace would have made an amazing and shocking killer in Season 2.

[@Landon_H]

if Hester wasn't played by lea machell she wouldn't have been in the 2nd season. but because she's ryan Murphy's Golden child she's in everything he does

[@mrgreeny906]

Did people forget the massive timeline error? Season 1 technically ends in spring 2016 after the Chanel’s trial and sent to the asylum… yet in Season 2 it’s stated that the events take place in autumn 2016… yet season 2 is supposedly taking place multiple years after season 1…? Lazy writing.

[@kendrichbadando7950]

I know right! Maybe they were released from the asylum in summer of 2016. Then got their lives together in September and the show starts in October. Finale in 2017? Idk Ryan Murphy just gave up

[@tynehazel007]

I was literally refreshing YT for something to watch and here we are!

[@SerenaSkybourne]

I'm glad my timing was so good haha

[@michaelstone5298]

I think Original Sin (more so than being a combo of the original PLL and Riverdale). Is more like a combo of Scream Queens with 13 Reasons Why? And if that sounds like an odd combo well that's because it is

[@michaelstone5298]

Yeah it even takes plot lines directly from scream Queens scoliosis the 20-year-old murder mystery, involving kids the death I a bathtub, and they're probably a few others I can't even think of right now.

[@angelaholmes8888]

Would you ever do videos on American horror story 🤔

[@SerenaSkybourne]

hmm maybe not, its too long lmao

[@angelaholmes8888]

@@SerenaSkybourne I totally understand why just curious if you would

[@colea4939]

@@SerenaSkybourne that was my problem w it for a while but most of the seasons are completely detached from each other so u could rly pick and choose a couple ones u seem interested in if u wanted :)

[@gothboiclique.mp3]

the stuff you said about disordered eating jokes & all that is so true and so well put

[@SerenaSkybourne]

thankyou angel

[@Frankie_Rayder]

They should have cast Sarah Michelle Gellar

[@ringmaster7866]

As who

[@loveart429]

😍so happy to watch this

[@mohamedsyrup7666]

season 2 was a disappointment tbh

[@DANIELGORMANN]

it's crazy that they didn't just set season 2 in the asylum considering that's literally where season 1 ends

[@gracienryan131]

Unfortunately Ryan Murphy shows tend to lose its luster between season 2 and 3 or become downright unwatchable depending upon how many other side projects he has going. His unhealthy obsession with Lea Michelle played into Hester's return.

[@michaelj1729]

Season 2 wouldve been nice if it followed the "Chanels as News Anchors" theyve been saying since Season 1. Imagine the sets they wouldve pulled off since the location is based on different talkshows.

[@angelaholmes8888]

I absolutely love season one so did my mother 😍🥰💖💝

[@gladigatorrawr1480]

>hot garbage That's an understatement 😮‍💨

[@user-idontknow984]

Once I got to episode 7 season 2 of scream queens I was done with the show I was so un interested this show had so much potential if season 2 had way better writing it could’ve have more seasons

[@Iriz101]

I didnt think It was bad sure they were bad eps like the hand that cringed me out but blood drive and the all the overs are great

[@ilvermorny7352]

It was terrible but entertaining

[@alyssarose3880]

I only watched the show for Chanel number 1 and that funny security guard lol

[@chandrawagner4061]

I thought season 2 was fun. I think there were more stupid bits but I liked taking the characters and putting them into this new random setting and the push into even more ridiculousness than the already ridiculous first season. I like that it didn't take itself too seriously

[@ringmaster7866]

Am I also the only one who think channel lost a lot of her sass in season 2 I mean she got owned by nurse hoffel the entire season. Season 1 channel would’ve came at hoffel

[@kenidyevelyn]

I did not watch scream queens at all. And there's an episode in season 2 where they make fun of the gentic disorder Neurofibromatosis and I have that and it was horrible the way they depict it. I will never watch it because they make fun of other things and I can't watch things like that.

[@MercenaryX84]

Yeah, I said it was mix bag and thinking back now the season was shorter than season 1. After remember so much of what I didn't like, I can say it was pretty terrible

[@danilolemos8534]

i'll say it again : yall dont understand scream queens and the ryan murphy universe, its ment to be bonkers, not 1 single moment is ment to be taken seriously, its not a mistery

[@xxaleksi]

I liked season 2 a bit more than season one and wanted a season 3

[@SerenaSkybourne]

really? that's cool

[@angelaholmes8888]

Glad someone enjoyed season 2

[@xxaleksi]

@@SerenaSkybourne yeah I miss the show

[@LaurenKaminski]

Same with me!

[@realtalk6195]

The writing and pacing in S02 was awful.

[@AsherrRainn]

Your voice is just so pleasing to listen to!!

[@a2ad9c36]

FLOP. Season 2 is just too ahead of its time

[@Iriz101]

agreed

[@gingerkatherina]

Fantastic points 👍👍👍

[@Jprager]

There was a big change up at the last minute. The intended theme of season 2 was supposed to have been a summer camp. In fact a number of articles and even Glenn Powell himself had talked about it. I don’t know what they were thinking switching the idea to a hospital.

[@stellamuka1087]

The main thing I have to say about season 2 is that even though I saw this more “recently” (years ago) than season 1 the only thing I remember is that they gave Taylor lautner a black mom

[@temmytory4309]

a black dad you mean lol

[@jazza724]

I agree with what hath been said

[@Iriz101]

The one ep that I agree is bad in season 2 is the hand that was cringe to a whole new level but it still has its momments still its the worst ep in scream queens in my opinion

[@twix8989]

Season 2 was so boring, I wasn't able to get through the first episode without skipping some scenes

[@SerenaSkybourne]

i'm glad it wasn't just me who was bored. I kept needing to do something else while I was watching it, like cooking

[@neishawnjohnson7602]

You should do stranger things and the vampire diaries 😩👏

[@echedp8903]

Ya, season 2 is such a massive down grade in every way. Just horrible. As for Channel and how iffy the show could be theme wise, I remember all the jokes about Channel not being into sex and 'faking' it as hints she was queer(asexual maybe) and her being so queer phobic was her hating herself. If they had the character kind of accept themselves and then go on to call out past actions that could have been very interesting, but no, as you say, it's just iffy, but at least the first season was very funny and a very good slasher.

[@sweetnothings1237]

Nice review ! :)

[@SerenaSkybourne]

Thankyou 😆🙈

[@Rhedd30]

Guess cuz it was a murder mystery and when it was solved its kinda like how do you beat the first mystery lol

[@bethanyetaylor]

Your make up is amazing!!!!

[@SerenaSkybourne]

Thankyou 😊😭😍

[@artak4890]

NO SEASON 2 WAS GREAT. STOP WITH THE UNNECESSARY HATE

[@rafaelvianaart]

It was so good that was cancelled because of it 👁👄👁

[@tylerkochman1007]

It’s really good if you are watching it for the jokes.

[@Iriz101]

agreed I watch scream queens for the joke I mean I hopefully assume everyone does bc scream queens is not a horror it has been a comedy which I love

[@mohamedsyrup7666]

can you make a video about glee pls :)

[@RapnuzeI]

Season 2 definitely is less than Season 1, but I did enjoy it a considerable amount. Hopefully Season 3 is better than them both and brings Grace back.

[@michaelstone5298]

Grace's dad, and his motivation sound a bit like the principal in Original Sin

[@blueboy2976]

I dont agree . I love season 2 just like season 1

[@fotini6100]

Maybe one day talk about Gilmore Girls?

[@SerenaSkybourne]

I think I will

[@rawr8524]

i stopped watching bc of episode 2 bc of its portrayal of nf1. those "warts" are nerve tumors and i understand that like the whole thing is untreatable rare diseases but nf1 reasearch is genuinely underfunded and so misinformation about it spreads easy.

[@Omer_ezra]

Season 1 was iconic and so well done but idk what happened to the writers in season 2. They should’ve waited longer and think of a better setting+story. The hospital thing wasn’t it. And they ended it on a cliffhanger so we don’t know what happened to chanel

[@michaelstone5298]

You should give a look to Gilmore Girls and maybe Switched at biyrth both underrated shows I think!

[@Iriz101]

I freakin loved season 2 I feel like its ahead of its time in season 1 yes it was ahead of its time I mean season 1 predicted so many things covid and being cancelled I feel the exact same with season 2 were not in a place where season 2 is ok but guranteed in the next decade ppl are gonna freak out abt season 2 of sq and think of it as it rlly is a masterpiece

[@anthony449]

I'm part of the minority who prefers season 2

[@SharkWitchMeruna]

This didn’t have a (part 2) so I couldn’t tell if it was part of the longer first part lol

[@vvjqm]

You should make a video on scream the tv show. Im curious to know your thoughts on the show

[@godisjihyo3615]

just watched the first video last night this is perfect ❤️🧙‍♀️

[@LaurenKaminski]

Unpopular opinion,my daughter & I like season 2 more than the first one!

[@angelaholmes8888]

Wow I'm surprised that a few people enjoyed season 2

[@ringmaster7866]

Many things don’t ser pass the original

[@godisjihyo3615]

ok but the halloween episode was ICONIC

[@ellapower7854]

I loved season 2 !

[@alecio85]

accurate review 🙏🏼

[@foster2095]

your hair color against that top color is SO pretty

[@SerenaSkybourne]

thankyouuu :)

[@kenziej4301]

season 2 never existed and it should be retcon as a bad dream where they were poor and had to work. I would’ve much preferred the story taking place during their summer break. a destination-vacation where the campus could all go, in the woods, a hotel 🏨 or somewhere more fabulous like an Island 🏝 🛥

[@angelaholmes8888]

I totally agree with I try my best to forget season 2

[@PsionicDiamond]

Season 2 could easily pass off as Chanel’s fever dream caused by her medication in the asylum. Yeah, it would be a big middle finger to the audience who enjoyed S2 but it really was a downgrade from S1… just kinda wish they never left the sorority setting

[@Rowan_Smith]

I absolutely loved both seasons !!

[@itsallhappening8098]

yaaaaaaay

[@jacksonmcnuggets7488]

S2 was amazing 😻

[@dawn6199]

Though season 2 wasn’t great - much of the plot was based on tropes from horror sequels - it just wasn’t executed in a good way. Bringing back characters that are basically useless, reusing plot points from the original, having a “darker” atmosphere, etc. are all very common in the genre, but this was just written terribly (which one could argue is also a sequel trope lol) Even down to the setting being a hospital, which is surprisingly common in horror sequels/threequels like Halloween 2, Nightmare on Elmstreet 3, Hellraiser 2 etc. There is a lot of material there to satirize which I think really added to my disappointment in this season.

[@1appletree]

I feel like I'm the only one, but I love season 2 even more then season 1!

[@superJANIECEpowers]

I had no idea it had a season 2 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@realtalk6195]

I agree with your overall assessment, but don't agree regarding their eating disorder remarks. It's obvious those are used as a negative trait, and not in a way to promote them. The Chanels are image-obsessed and superficial, so it makes sense that body-shaming and ED are things they would be associated with. It's part of their character profile.

[@ceciliadougliosan3531]

Season 2>Season 1

[@lucawinters06]

how?

[@0Ninio0]

I Actually liked season 2 idk why tho

[@Y2CJ3600]

see i told u season 2 sucked! lol hahaha its not even worth watching lol. when it comes to the grace character, she didnt want to return to the show. she wanted to go to college. that didnt last long cuz she was still under contract with fox and was in their short lived xmen related series. i think the creators did know what they wanted to do. i feel that way cuz of his past shows. the main ones r popular (which all eps r uplaoded on youtube. omg check it out trust me u will love it. it was before its time) glee, this show and american horror story. glee and popular r similar. teens in highschool, drama but glee is more of a musical comedy. popular was more of a teen drama, with lil comedy. i think he tried to make scream queens similar to american horror story but differently. the whole anthology thing. new season, somewhat same stars or characters but different theme. it just didn't work out. as for lea coming back. well that show runner just loves her. which explains the whole glee racial drama

[@conceptualizing]

i've been waiting 4 this