Why Desperate Housewives Started to Suffer (Season 6)

This is my analysis of Season 6- recapping the Susan/Katharine/Mike love triangle, Orson and Bree's separation, and more!
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00:00 the mystery
10:34 Susan
21:02 Katharine
28:36 Lynette
33:45 Gabby
36:22 Bree
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desperate housewives season 1-8, 2004, season 2, marc cherry show, video essay, review, deep dive, recap, Teri Hatcher as Susan Mayer, Felicity Huffman as Lynette Scavo, Marcia Cross as Bree Van de Kamp, and Eva Longoria as Gabrielle Solis. Nicollette Sheridan as Edie Britt, Dana Delany as Katherine Mayfair, and Vanessa Williams as Renee Perry. Brenda Strong as Mary Alice Young, the Applewhite family. Mike Delfino (James Denton).

[@MissMLove]

I have a lot of sympathy/empathy for Katherine in this season. She was in an abusive marriage, lost her biological child & didn’t have time to properly mourn because she was trying to get away from abusive ex, married again just be cheated on & divorced, her child is no longer at home, & a business partner who is taking all the credit. She has been putting up an image for years. I think she was going to crack eventually, even if it wasn’t Mike.

[@nataliegarcia1121]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 exactly. In my opinion the breakdown was justifiable.

[@nessydelight470]

Yes Katherine has been through a lot, also she lost her aunt

[@OddTreee]

Totally agree. It wasn't just Mike. I think he just triggered the breakdown that was so close to happening.

[@citydweller99]

For me, killing off Edie was the spark that started the downhill slope of the show. I think that's partly why Katherine was sacrificed because she filled the role in the Susan/Mike relationship previously filled by Edie.

[@JaxMchunu]

I agree. I loved how Edie would call out a lot of the silliness that happened with these women. That woman deserves better ❤

[@victorhunter8900]

And failed miserably at it.

[@kuntybanks5374]

I personally think that Gaby's strictness with Ana was due to Gaby seeing so much of herself in Ana as a teenager, and she just wants to keep her safe from the dangers that come with being young and beautiful. I also think that Gaby follows a mindset of "My house, my rules" when it came to her and her actual daughters, and Ana was only like 16-17 when she moved in, and I personally think that it's not completely late to discipline someone like Ana, and in the end it did pay off and she became more mature.

[@CountessGemini]

This is the season when I started really disliking Susan. Mike was about to go to Vegas with Katherine and marry her. He left her at the airport essentially on their wedding day and a few months later married his ex instead, but somehow - in Susan's - eyes SHE is the bad guy? She has the audacity to be annoyed with people being sympathtic towards Katherine instead of celebrating her happiness. And then we see how little she knew about Julie's life and how sel-centered she in fact was. In my eyes, Susan is the worst out of the main characters of the show.

[@enriquesanchez9016]

I agree that season 6 wasn't Bree's best season but she never had a truly bad season imo, she remained an entertaining character from beginning to end.

[@uma.n2680]

i agree on the most part, but about Lynnette and Gabi's parenting, i have to disagree, it's conflicting to raise children, and challenging, you can love them, but also resent them for what you had to give up for them, but honestly you can just love them despite everything. just a pov of a single person with no children.

[@CarlDillynson]

Katherine’s storyline is clearly what they were planning on doing with Susan then they basically just swapped their places in the writing room after the negative fan reaction. I wouldn’t have liked it if Susan acted like that, *but* it would have been more in character for her than for Katherine. Not only that, they (writers) probably would have handled it with more grace and tact had this been Susan’s storyline as to not make her too unlikeable, but as Katherine wasn’t really a fan favorite they probably felt okay with their totally heavy handed depiction of such a sensitive topic. I remember reading back in the day about “it’ll be the funniest break down you’ll ever see” even when I was 16 at the time and thinking “what exactly about a mental breakdown is funny?”

[@jacobsed6665]

34:27 I completely disagree with you about Gabby. Yes Ana isn’t her daughter but she didn’t have a very good upbringing and neither did Gabby. I liked that Gabby took her under her wing and taught her things she wishes she was taught when she was Anas age.

[@angelaholmes8888]

Yeah I really did like gabby relationship with ana this season

[@insertsomethingcreativeher7949]

this channel is such an avid Gabi hater

[@ladyok6252]

gaby is my best character. I like her courage, her strength and her honesty. I'd rather see a person tell me they're selfish, but then surprise me with their courage and loyalty, than play some kind of sweet person. Gaby carries a lot of compassion and love inside her that she doesn't even know about.

[@itschuka7185]

I feel like Katherine was the worst wasted potential on the show. They really just violated her character, because she was my favourite in Season 4 because of how brave, mysterious and badass she was and how she never took no fo an answer, I always loved when she was on screen because she kept things intresting and she had such a strong backstory as well which could had been used more in later seasons. In season 5 it was like watching if Katherine had a twin sister with vastly different personalities. I really don't know why the show just fumbled the bag on her character because she had the potential of getting even better on the show and literally could had been one of the most iconic characters in television history. It's a shame

[@chilli1115]

I’ve been waiting for this I’m so stoked you are covering desperate housewives! One of my all time fave shows and the lack of commentary content about it is a crime

[@SerenaSkybourne]

😍❤️

[@jacobsed6665]

Omg Katherine’s storyline that season was literally the dumbest plot ever. Totally ruined her character.

[@SerenaSkybourne]

Totally

[@kellysnyder1405]

To defend Gaby just a bit...I'm a mom and time away from my kids made me feel guilty at first because moms are regarded as having their parental role be 24/7 for life. But I learned that time away from my kids let me decompress, reunite with who I am and who I want to be, that I love myself as much as I love my children. And honestly being tied to your children is not healthy for them or parents. 💜

[@angelaholmes8888]

God I really hate what the writer's did with orson this season

[@elenak.6539]

I remember watching season 6 as a literal child of ten, and even baby me went 'this is so weird' on the Katherine - Susan - Mike triangle. If a ten-year-old can spot the character assassination, then the writing must well and truly stink something fierce. And then they swept it under the rug like what Katherine went through doesn't warrant months if not years' worth of emotional damage to work through.

[@taint1801]

This season was like a really good idea that was only okay in execution. It has a very special place in my heart because I started watching the show during a re-run of season 6 back in like 2016 or something.

[@angelaholmes8888]

I really hated that the writer's did the bi erasure on katherine 😡🤬

[@TheBc99]

I was yelling at my TV that bisexuals exist. Absolutely fuming... You can tell that straight men wrote this. We get the steamy bicurious scenes for Katherine but not even a peck between Bob and Lee...

[@outinsider]

@@TheBc99 I blamed Marc Cherry. I'm bi but I swear Log Cabin Republicans cannot grasp the many colors of the rainbow. It's either gay or straight.

[@AKookieForYou]

The Lynette pregnancy storyline reminds me a lot of Crazy Ex Girlfriend, only the latter show handled it better. One of the main characters, Paula, is an older woman in her 40s like Lynette, and she has two teen sons. In season 2 of the show Paula is finally trying to follow her dreams of being a lawyer, she applies to law school and gets in, but she ends up getting pregnant. At first she thinks that she's just gonna have to deal with the pregnancy and let go of her desires, because she feels like married women with children don't get abortions. However, her husband is very supportive of her and her decision to not keep the baby, and wants her to pursue her dreams fully. I thought the whole thing was handled beautifully, and I wish Lynette could've had the same understanding and support from Tom.

[@KellieValentine]

Crazy Ex Girlfriend, such an amazing show!

[@AKookieForYou]

@@KellieValentine It's one of my favorites!

[@queenpraisse]

Not everyone support’s abortion.

[@Bilhelmina]

@@queenpraisse Thank you. The amount of people commenting on this series like all the women should have just straight up terminated every pregnancy. Some women want kids, shocking.

[@JaxMchunu]

I could deal with a LOT on Desperate Housewives - even with how ridiculous it gets at times but the one constant that GRATES me beyond Season 1, was how utterly insufferable Susan is. Needy, weepy, clumsy, annoying, “that faux vulnerability” that Edie spoke about - oh my gosh. Susan, Mike and The Young family 🚮🚮🚮🚮

[@unamed2516]

I couldn’t stand Susan along with Gaby and Edie and Katharine.

[@kayk2956]

Susan is the worst. I have never been a fan of Terri Hatcher and she made a fool of herself on the show. She overacts and tries to look cute. She is a selfish spoiled brat who never put children first. There are not many men who would have anything to do with her yet on the show she always has guys waiting in the wings. She isn’t attractive enough to keep acting like a cute 25 year old.

[@EmergentSea]

You're so right about the character assassination, previously with Orson and now with Katherine. Also abortion is a huge taboo on this show, they had so many opportunities to bring it up but they willingly chose to never present it as an option (looks like someone had an agenda 🙄). I was waiting for you to conclude on the mystery strangler though, I wanted to hear your thoughts on his highlight episode and overall character.

[@lilith4961]

For reals! I was thinking how is it that a strong career driven woman like Lynette never thinks of getting an abortion.

[@SerenaSkybourne]

I didn’t want to spoil it too much because I thought it was rly interesting

[@Xvdrianna]

I think it was a problem with the network the show originally aired on.

[@kayk2956]

I can’t believe how many people are upset that the show didn’t run with abortions as a plot. Having an abortion is not something you want to brag about. Getting pregnant and giving birth is a privilege that is being abused. If you don’t want to get pregnant then prevent it from happening. We are so soulless now that women are proud of their abortions. I watched DH when it first aired and have been rewatching it lately. Abortion is not something that ever crossed my mind with the show. I guess with the current target audience it’s important for women to have abortions. It’s almost like having an abortion is proper birth control. I guess I’m in the wrong because I value innocent defenseless babies. I’m glad that my kids are almost grown and understand how not to get pregnant.

[@idabsopeoplecantseemecry3835]

I got my hopes wayy too high up with Katherine and Robin because as soon as they started implying there was something romantic between the two of them I thought they would canonise the first openly bisexual character in the main cast. Instead they presented the gay/straight dichotomy as the only options and had that one episode where Mike had a crisis of masculinity because he was the last guy Katherine dated and thought he made love in a way that was too "girly" or something ughh. At the end of the day it was a show that was made in the 2000s, so....

[@lilith4961]

Im glad so many people here agree the writers did Katherine dirty! She was such a Strong woman, like a more hardcore Bree who stood up against a corrupt abusive cop. No way would she break down that way.

[@SerenaSkybourne]

She’s too good for all that bad writing

[@clown-cult96]

Mike absolutely going in on Katherine is genuinely one of my favourite scenes. It’s harsh of him but it’s almost like…cathartic? These women in this show are forever committing some foolishness and I was so happy to see someone FINALLY call some of said foolishness out.

[@SerenaSkybourne]

I agree :) he was a jerk to her the rest of the time, but i thought that scene was more than fair enough

[@pam9919]

I knew really liked Katharine because of what she did to her adopted daughter but I think it’s ridiculous that mike dumping her caused her mental breakdown not her abusive boyfriend

[@angelaholmes8888]

Yeah me too I really didn't like that

[@barbiquearea]

I think the idea is Katherine has always been someone who is clingy and craves companionship. In season 4 after she divorces her then husband Adam, she tries to reconcile with him even though she was the one who justifiably divorced him for cheating on her, which he rejected. I think the five year gap of being alone in the house with her daughter having gone off to college must have really made her desperate for companionship, so when she started a relationship with Mike she couldn't let him go.

[@lilith4961]

Yes they did her dirty!

[@nem6686]

Yes. Season 4 Katharine is a badass. Her storyline is just sad & something Susan would do. Like she's such a strong character to have a nervous breakdown because of Mike

[@lithiumkid]

it was probably cumulative, everything added up and the breakdown was a result of the abusive relationship, the death of her bio daughter, losing Mike, everything altogether

[@cum-fart]

Im so depressed right now but your videos help me thank you

[@Querkanti_Lulu]

I hope you are feeling better soon. ☺️

[@ilovetaylorswift3784]

Sending you love !

[@NoOne00]

Sending you love as well

[@lucy-ferprofiler5379]

omg same, serena's videos are providing me some glimpses of joy in my nightmarish daily life...

[@loomynous9204]

I love your desperate housewives reviews. It's sad the main characters' stories really are less interesting as seasons go on. I remember i really liked the new family with the mystery

[@shahanaxo]

I don’t think it’s fair to criticise gabby for sometimes wanting a break from her kids or for feeling frustrated with them. That’s actually normal. Literally every mother I know, including my own, has felt like that especially when the kids are still quite young. It is entirely possible to love your kids and also be overwhelmed and annoyed with them about the life you can no longer live because they’re here. That doesn’t make you a bad mum.

[@serenarenee3645]

Yes, there are ways of doing that in a mature way, however. Babysitters, or asking your husband for some time alone and away from the kids, etc. Gabby is still the same immature person for after 6 seasons (haven't finished the show). She manned up when Carlos lost his sight and then went right back to it once he regained it lol.

[@_Celine_26]

6:10 yes haha. Next idea for a video once you're done reviewing the show: "convenient deaths in Desperate Housewives". Should last about 4 hours lmfao

[@veronikapop8161]

I've always despised Carlos for how he treated Lynette because of her pregnancy. I don't know the rules in USA but here in Czech Republic you have NO obligation to tell ANYONE at work about your pregnancy until the maternity leave, which is like 6 weeks before the full term or so. Of course most people announce it sooner and past certain point it's usually kinda obvious anyway, but Lynette was like what, 4-5 monts ? That still leaves about another 4 months to figure out her replacement etc, isn't usual quitting time in USA 2 weeks and bye? I hated this storyline so much

[@unamed2516]

Yeah and the way Gaby encouraged it too and kept making the situation something that affected their friendship and trust was so annoying it’s like she was trying to push it being about her.

[@chupachuuups706]

The issue was that Lynette LIED to Carlos AND her new position was very important in the company. The pregnancy WOULD have, without a doubt, affected her decision making & WOULD’ve put the company, and Carlos’ job, in jeopardy. Carlos did nothing wrong, it was all Lynette. She should’ve been truthful from the start.

[@jasmeen5712]

​@@chupachuuups706I guess it's a question of culture because where I live, Carlos could have been fired just for that and Lynette behavior wouldn't have been wrong. Here, it's even forbidden to ask someone in an interview if they are pregnant/plan to be pregnant or want kids someday. So 100% on Lynette's side here.

[@dragana5600]

girl i almost gasped when the video started playing, you look GORGEOUSSSS 😍

[@SerenaSkybourne]

thankyouu 💖💖

[@TJMalana]

I really loved the mother son relationship between Angie Bolen and Danny Bolen. I really connected to their relationship more than Susan and Julie! Their scenes together really stood for me. Speaking of Susan I’m glad Angie went mama bear New Yorker on her after what she tried to do to her son. During season 6 I was secretly hoping that Dylan Mayfair and Danny Bolen would have hit it off. I believe they both would not only have chemistry but relate to each other the most as far as being in a family with a lot of secrets. BUT due to the five year jump in between seasons it probably wouldn’t be appropriate. I felt so terrible for Danny when he attempted suicide after being rejected by Julie for the last time. I’m was sitting there thinking WTF Danny Bolen is not Zach Young. He’s not going to hurt you the way Zach did or Austin for that matter. It was totally gross that she slept with his dad. Even though I didn’t like him and Ana together it gave us viewers the chance to see Gabby involved with the Bolen mystery and help rescue Angie and her son from Patrick Logan. The Bolen will be missed. 😢

[@annachristine5295]

All I can think about every time I watch your videos is how cute your couch is

[@hi-zf7sz]

I love how Mary Alice is still the narrator in each episode. This makes the show very interesting ❤️

[@Thisthatandmatt]

That’s what makes season 1, 3, 5 such good mysteries, because it directly involves the main housewives. 7 and 8 does too, but they’re just weaker seasons in general.

[@jacobsed6665]

If you had been paying attention in the earlier seasons, Gabby never wanted children. It was Carlos who was dying to have kids and even messed with her birth control so she’d get pregnant. That’s why she is that way with her kids. I think the show is well written and you just completely missed the point.

[@angelaholmes8888]

Yeah I get why gabrielle is like that with her kids

[@SerenaSkybourne]

I’m more confused that when she got pregnant, she followed through with the pregnancies? 🤷‍♀️ I don’t know why abortion isn’t an option for her

[@jacobsed6665]

@@SerenaSkybourne Also in the flash backs she slapped her doctor when he told her she was pregnant and then started screaming at Carlos about it too. I guess she just didn’t want an abortion or just had the children for Carlos…

[@shirin9452]

@@SerenaSkybourne I think it’s the network’s conservatism. The showrunner said they wouldn’t even allow talk of an abortion. I guess this explains why they’re desperate?

[@jacobsed6665]

@@38h00 No she was upset when Carlos was blind because she never wanted kids. There’s a line in the finale of Season 4 where she says “Oh Carlos we’re never gonna have kids. Shoes are my kids. Let me be the mother I was meant to be” 😂. Obviously this was hinting at the 5 year jump that was shown at the end of the episode, but she generally never wanted kids. She did have some growth, but it was mainly for Carlos who always wanted children.

[@AD-ov5rt]

Considering what happens with Mike in season 7, Katherine dodged a bullet, breakdown and all.

[@katarinakrnjevic8183]

6th season was one of my favorite season . They tied perfectly all those stories and it's shame that Angie and her family isn't in other 2 seasons.

[@_Celine_26]

Season 6 isn't the best but it has Angie and i LOVE her so much. Hate what they did to Katherine.

[@Mackerrooney]

Wow, cant believe ive been following you for over a year! Remember when this series started. Love you ❤

[@SerenaSkybourne]

that's crazy! went by so fast

[@loveart429]

Serena! i love your new KZbin banner! Can't wait to get stuck into this now!

[@johnharisson5166]

I always felt that season 7 should have been season 6 Angie was a great character but i didnt think she fit with the rest of the cast. The Vanessa Williams character René worked way better. The strangler mystery was actually good but could have easily been incorporated in the umbrella story of season 7

[@angelaholmes8888]

Yes vanessa character rene was a better fit

[@dawnseow]

Just finished Desperate Housewives! Just curious, would you be interested to watch Devious Maids? The tv series was produced by the same people (and Eva Longoria).. and some of the desperate housewives characters appeared there too!

[@chloetheswifty1313]

God I love your channel so deffo top 3 KZbinrs

[@SerenaSkybourne]

This is the sweetest comment ever omg

[@nickyg7557]

2:12 I think it's funny that she is breaking out of the closet, because later on she also does it metaphorically, not only literally (her relationship with Robin) 😂

[@emilyjohnston7259]

I’m binging all of these they are so amazing!

[@SerenaSkybourne]

you're so sweet! Thanks babe

[@angelaholmes8888]

God I really hate when the writer's listen to the fans but I was glad that Mike married susan

[@angelaholmes8888]

My mother recently started watching desperate housewives she's on season 2 right now

[@Xmasonfieldingx]

I loved angie as a housewife on the street but her story and her family were absolutely boring as hell

[@angelaholmes8888]

Yes I totally agree with you 💯

[@ilovetaylorswift3784]

Literally!

[@SerenaSkybourne]

Yeah she was great but her story was disappointing

[@SerenaSkybourne]

what did you think of Katharine and Mike? 👀👀

[@johnharisson5166]

What the show did with the Katherine character during season 6 was horrible they basically isolated her so much that when she was written out it didnt change anything

[@angelaholmes8888]

I'm still furious what the writer's did to Katherine in season 6 she definitely deserved better they could had written her out of the show in a better way

[@palacsintakat]

I think Katherine's spiral was kind of realistic to how an obsessive limerence actually happens. Especially because she does have so much trauma in her past with an abusive ex. When you come from abuse and you meet someone you feel safe and happy around and you've been so lonely (Dillon and Adam are gone, she's undervalued at work, her best-friend is kind of self-centered, etc) you refuse to believe that the life you had planned in your head changed so drastically overnight. You're still consumed by your love and need for someone that you refuse to believe they moved on completely or that there's no way they wouldn't ever come back once they realize they made a mistake. I kind of went through the same thing and looking back there were signs the whole time that things were off but when he left for someone else he'd been seeing the last few months all I could think about was either stealing him back or getting revenge kinda back and forth between the two. Especially because he was kinda evil about the breakup. So I kinda feel for her but do think her descent from strong woman to mad woman was realistic especially when you've been forcing yourself to be strong for a long time.

[@lucy-ferprofiler5379]

I think Mike really mistreated her, not admitting that he still had feelings for his ex, using her for comfort, sex and domestic life services such as cooking, and babysitting. She was doing everything for him, even putting up with his ex living across the street... Katherine was a victim, and Susan and Mike should have sincerely apologized.

[@SerenaSkybourne]

@@lucy-ferprofiler5379 yeah for sure, Katharine was disrespected so many times and messed around

[@momotteinthedeep]

You inspire me to start a channel like yours but every time I change my mind.. I love your videos and your passion!

[@itskellyyb]

I hate that they made Gabby have kids cos she didn't want them early on and then hates being around them half the time 😂 they could of had her not have kids

[@angelaholmes8888]

John barrowman was good as Angie's crazy ex love him in the show arrow

[@dianaszuts398]

Oh, I have snaks and the video. Perfect!😊💚

[@SerenaSkybourne]

yesss queen! I'm happy to hear it

[@dianaszuts398]

@@SerenaSkybourne 😊💚

[@angelaholmes8888]

I'm glad that dana Delaney who played katherine went on to star on her own show body of proof after she left desperate housewives the show lasted 4 seasons

[@TheBc99]

As a gay kid who grew up with this show I loved that Bob and Lee became regulars and just a normal part of the neighbourhood, especially as a contrast to Andrew who's more edgy - having all 3 was a great way of showing the spectrum of gay men, which was commendable for 2010-ish. They remind me a lot of Cam and Mitchell from Modern Family, which came out around this time, though I think Modern Family executed it much better since they had more screentime. As DH progressed though I did start rolling my eyes about how Lee (the campier gay) wasn't given a single scene where he wasn't pointing out what a gay stereotype he was - a classic thing that straight/white/cis writers do, putting offensive jokes in the mouth of someone in the offended community so they don't seem offensive. Lee did get his own brief subplot as a realter in S7 but the rest of the time he was just "the gay friend", whereas Bob got to be the lawyer. Also the way they applauded Bob for not being a gay stereotype was very icky to me - borderline homophobic. The idea that "gay men don't need to be feminine" is quite a toxic one - I was bullied in high school for that exact reason. Shows like DH and others that came out around this time like Happy Endings got into this habit of casting straight- or straight-acting actors for gay characters in a way that was weirdly disparaging to the more feminine ones. And these sorts of casting/writing choices go all the way to Love Simon (which I absolutely hate - it should be called Love Internalised Homophobe). ANYWAY that's my rant about gay cis male representation in DH. It's still a hell of a lot better than the representation of any other queer/trans people on this show. Oh, 2010...

[@TshwareloSam]

A little too late to the discussion, I just finished season 6. I also liked that Bob and Lee being a gay couple was their whole storyline, they were just neighbors who happened to be gay. I was a bit disappointed that they never showed any gay characters doing the deed, especially when Andrew hooked up with one of Bree's employees in S6, something that would have been shown had it been two straight people. I'm glad Katherine and her gf's intimacy was shown a bit but we all know why that is ( to appeal to straight men who think lesbians hooking up is hot), but it just drove home the point that male-male intimacy is too taboo 🙄🙄.

[@Rayyyych]

After you finish the series, you should check out the DH subreddit. There’s lot of interesting theories & explanations on there

[@davidbrennan5973]

I think if we’re being realistic, there is no way on gods green earth Lynette would have an abortion now I think characters like Gaby or even Julie that would’ve been more realistic but Lynette is like major mom she was never going to do that

[@Bollywoodlover100]

yeah it made sense she wouldn’t but for a character like gabby it never did

[@serenarenee3645]

I just started this show for the first time last week and it went by quickly until season 6. I just finished the season. That was slow and dreadful. Still not over how Gabby gets away with statuatory rape but god forbid how many times they bring up Austin running over Carlos's mother (which nobody else heard or saw, it was entirely word of mouth) as blackmail for Bree's literal career. Should I even bother finishing this show? Anyways, I highly recommend Nip/Tuck for anyone into soap operas or heavy drama like DH. it's on Hulu and aired on FX around the same time as DH and actually goes more in depth of the same themes. Ryan Murphy does not hold back or allow for conservative writers to take control.

[@elli4090]

It would be amazing if you would do a review on the series Vis A Vis. I'd love to hear your thoughts on Zulemas Charakter.

[@thatssobrandon]

I give up.. you still don't understand the show

[@ilvermorny7352]

But the show definitely inspired shows like Big Little Lies and Dead to Me by adding jokes to lighten the often dark mood

[@JGrantUK]

Desperate Housewives didn’t invent levity…

[@annickroussemrou1064]

i think mark cherry or the producers skipped over the abortion with lynette because of the "maybe audience outcry" or cancellation? many of the american audiences are maybe conservatives against abortion so they didn't want to poke the sleeping bear and have bad reviews.

[@kayk2956]

I’m a mother of four and was happy getting pregnant and not choosing to kill off my babies. It’s too bad that women today are proud of their abortions and use them as birth control. I suffered several miscarriages with one of them being in my 2nd trimester. Those were tough losses. The 2nd trimester miscarriage was a tiny baby boy. It broke my heart. But people like you would abort that tiny life and be happy about it. I’m really glad that the show didn’t use abortions in the plots. My youngest has hypotonic cerebral palsy and he is now 17 years old. He will always need me and my husband. But I love my children and have never been away from them. Believe it or not but women are generally maternal or they used to be.

[@jazza724]

Yes ma’am

[@hi-zf7sz]

I'm on season 3 episode 11 and it is really getting interesting 🔥😍 This show is very addictive.

[@lilith4961]

Im not done with season 6 so I will come back to this later but so far I agree

[@eddyyanes6551]

I hated Mike n Susan More than ever this season.🙄

[@bonghunezhou5051]

At end of series 6, a character actually was brought back from the inaugural season. Checked out of the show! (IMHO, series *5* is my most favourite season, with *6* a solid second; could not care less about the final two; first four - which took place five to nine years before "fifth year" - would fall in between)

[@kellystan4597]

Hi Serena, I’m liking the series so far! 😊Just so you know in case, the preferred term is sex worker, not prostitute.

[@Danielle2Cats]

You never told us who the strangler was?

[@angelaholmes8888]

The strangler was a boy named Eddie he was friends with lynette son's

[@SerenaSkybourne]

I didn’t want to give it away haha, felt like too big a spoiler

[@isaiah15683]

Season 6 felt so off. My least favorite season of desperate housewives.

[@drproject1990]

Where the season 5 review

[@SerenaSkybourne]

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[@thekage100]

Why no talk on Eddie being the strangler??

[@angelaholmes8888]

I loved drea d Mateo in son's of anarchy but in desperate housewives not so much you definitely should check out the show sons of anarchy serena

[@lucy-ferprofiler5379]

27:24, I completely disagree, yes she saw some signs, but it was not Katherine's fault...Mike is to blame... he used her, her warmth, her cooking, her providing a home and comfort... you're blaming and shaming a victim

[@SerenaSkybourne]

I’m just saying she played a role in that dynamic and she did some toxic stuff to to try and get him to stick around, not victim blaming. He was an ass to her, but I wish she’d respected herself as well

[@rachelannstanley]

A "funny" breakdown?!The thing abt Susan not knowing all this stuff abt her daughter is probably bc of her parenting. Like I get the impression Susan was a bit like the "best friend" parent reminds me a bit of Loralai from Gilmore Girls where they are then like "Oh my God, she is such a good kid normally" not to be like a Dictator Parent but maybe also be a Parent. And yeah Cathrine kinds went crazy but also Mike was a bit harsh. Maybe Cathrine was a bit unstable all along, that explains her personality changes maybe someone should've into her mental health. And yeah ppl's reaction to the Wedding was quite realistic. Like yeah he was just with another woman now he's getting married to you?? Obviously Susan was right in locking her bc she literally crashed the Wedding xD. Yes she was valid that she wanted a apology and all that, but she could've gone abt it differently. Honestly they all acted badly. And the whole thing abt her needing this Man bc she's can't deal with being alone is also this quite misogynistic way where woman are made out to be not good for anything else than motherhood and having a Man and all that. Bc we can't be happy without a Man. I commented this before but the whole pregnancy thing with Lynette was SO bad. I think a lot of older shows have a lot of Issues with mysongenie and sexualization with the whole Lynette's boobs thing for example. The Gabby and Ana thing: Yeah at this point you can't "raise her out of certain behaviors" also isn't she Carlose's niece. Technically it's him that would MAYBE have the right to tell her off but she's not your kid. As I've already commented once, I'm in a wheelchair and the thing with wheelchair story's that also bothers me, is that shows never seem to use actual wheelchair users in shows. Nothing specific for the show, this just always reminds me of that. And all the continous comments abt weights is so weird

[@cuteboi393]

Angie and Felicia Tillman are my two favorite characters❤️.

[@TJMalana]

CORRECTION it Preston that was about to marry Irina the Russian woman NOT Porter!

[@barbiquearea]

Susan becoming obese in that "What If?" episode looks like She Hulk just without the green skin.

[@angelaholmes8888]

I didn't enjoy season 6 that much at this point the show definitely was running out of storylines

[@ladyok6252]

first of all you are very woke. as for Gaby and the children. you don't understand because you obviously don't have them :D I understand her, but I love my children, I would go to the end of the world for them. but sometimes they bring me to the edge of sanity :D

[@kayk2956]

So it’s important to include abortion in today’s tv shows. Abortions are not something you should be proud of. I gave birth to 4 children naturally and I’m proud of that. If a woman wants to make the decision of what to do with her body then she should prevent pregnancy. I get pregnant easily and after my youngest was born I used birth control. It’s extremely basic.

[@sjtv1000]

You got knocked up & gave birth so did every other person on this planet’s mother what is there to be proud of