Over-Analyzing that Board Game in Mouthwashing

[@helene6090]

In French, this game is named "les petits chevaux", wich translate to " the little horses". The safe space is "the ladder". Funny coïncidence...

[@Largest_M]

its called "kızma birader" which translates to "dont get mad bro" in turkish

[@kjarakravik4837]

It's called don't get mad dude in both dutch and most of south eastern europe

[@manarceus92]

“Parchis” in spanish

[@joypawz7654]

W o w

[@marithecookie6791]

lol I was just about to comment that! maybe it was intentional?

[@typhoonboom]

the fact that this board game got a whole video shows how much attention to detail there is in this game. i love this game, game of the year in my heart

[@thunderhogTH]

While i know it's not the correct name, as someone who recognized the game as "Sorry!" Originally, one thing stood out to me in that last moment with jimmy talking to Polle, where "Polle says: SORRY!" While on one end it is Jimmy essentially confronting his own ego and regrets, the proclamation of SORRY felt like it indicated the end of the board game.

[@cceres]

Hah! I thought of the board game with the SORRY! but wasn't paying enough attention to the background to imagine it was connected to anything other than the time some of my friends and I, all adults, sat down to play SORRY! at my house and at least two left there threatening to slash each other's tires.

[@jonathanhilton7265]

Something is fitting about the game looking like sorry but not actually being sorry. Like how Jimmy's final act looks a lot like him saying he's sorry but its not.

[@willyeeton4390]

​@@jonathanhilton7265 even in the actual board game Sorry!, you don't *actually* apologize for beating another player, you're not actually sorry you lost them the game or hurt them, it's just something the rules say you should do. Hey wait a minute!

[@Mrtorrespony]

Anya and Daisuke fighting over this game 💀

[@SuperWarriorcatslove]

"HOW DO YOU CHEAT AT A DICE GAME??!!!"

[@batabids]

@@SuperWarriorcatslove he eats the pieces when she's not looking

[@sh00tingst4r]

" Im tired of this Anya :( " "THATS TOO DAMM BAD MOVE THE FUCKING PIECE"

[@Aleiurf]

The fact that in my language the game is named "Don't get upset, brother" makes this funnier for me😭

[@natigalilel1135]

Curly being represented by the white move spaces rather than an active player also shows how dehumanized he is that is a bit different from Anya. Jimmy doesn’t see curly we played as in certain parts but rather he only sees the bandaged, disabled curly as the one to save for his own benefit. He’s a prop to jimmys belief as a “victim who tries so hard to save everyone. Just if everyone listen to me!!!!”. That’s why the only piece in the safe zone is jimmy’s piece cause it’s all about him in the end and he steps over his friend to get there

[@Pepsiburkham]

Curly being the white on the board also kinda shows how he enables Jimmy's free movement, and how his safety came before anyas did.

[@faina_yevheniia]

I liked the irony of shift between "captain, who holds everyone together" or "a doormat"

[@MarTheWorstGaymer]

I didn't notice all the details of the players, this is insanely cool!!! It did funnily enough make me kinda let out a sarcastic laugh when I saw the board game before, because you said it's a "friendship breaker", well, in Germany we call literally this "don't get angry" and I just thought what a great game to play for Jimmy

[@SerialIntrovert]

I just looked up the German version of the game and it's exactly the same. That's a very interesting fact

[@MarTheWorstGaymer]

@@SerialIntrovert yes, it was actually super nostalgic for me to see because it's what I always played as a kid!

[@franlion1]

Us Croats call it "Čovjeće, ne ljuti se!" meaning "Dude, don't get angry!"

[@fabulousfab101]

In Spanish it’s “No Te Enojes”

[@clovertrashh]

In Turkish, it's called "Kızma birader" which basically translates to "Don't Get Mad Bro"

[@viscera8442]

i think that the reason why one of Jimmy's pieces is knocked over along with all of Anya's after her death is because now that she's dead, Jimmy feels like he doesn't have to feel guilt or think about what he did to her anymore. in all of his guilt hallucinations, he has to face what he did to Swansea and Daisuke, but when it comes to Anya, she doesn't even get a proper segment because he never even thought about what he did to her, instead he chose to focus on the fetus that he needed to get rid of

[@radn_]

In Croatia we call this game "Čovječe ne ljuti se" (Man, don't get angry) which is ironic in Jimbo's case

[@LiliDraw]

Yeah- same meaning in Czech " Člověče, nezlob se"

[@1919eva]

It's the same in Dutch! Mens, erger je niet

[@hyobro8392]

In french it's also called "ne t'en fais pas" which is closer to "don't worry about it", but I think it can also be said to someone who's upset in general

[@nebby9378]

same in slovenian! človek, ne jezi se :]

[@GoatOfTheMountain]

Every day I learn a new piece of symbolism about Mouthwashing. Like, the "dead pixel" Anya was referring to being Jimmy, and Curly being too blind to see the said "dead pixel."

[@alpaca6462]

And then him getting frustrated it was pointed out to him, because he'd rather live in ignorance instead of addressing the truth

[@orthoshroud8453]

Daisuke “ you can’t not cheat at a dice game”

[@BobbinRobbin777]

Not when you're a... *_D i c e s u k e ._*

[@maqqilime8556]

I’m so glad someone made an analysis on this! As a Swede, I found it pretty interesting that they put fia med knuff in the game and pondered the possibility of the pieces being indicative of the characters roles in the stories for a bit, but ultimately ended up forgetting about it when the story was done. Istg there’s so many hidden details once you go back and play it again. Great analysis!

[@MEGAMeetsmeh]

As a Finn, the game reminded me of Kimble (apparently known as Trouble in the US and Frustration in the UK) which practically is the same game with a slightly different layout and a device for rolling dice built into the board. Fascinating how many subtle variations there are of the same game.

[@leolion3323]

From first glance this looks identical to a game we call Fia in sweden. All except for a missing spot in the middle.

[@RatKingLeo]

Makes sense. Wrong Organ is from Stockholm

[@sagedelta7]

Another piece I noticed was the dice themselves! In a flashback scene as Curly, we see Jimmy rolled a 9 (as he is the only piece on the board that can “take” another piece, it being Anya’s). It’s symbolic of the fact that Jimmy had already done his crime, but the repercussions of it had yet to unfold, the pieces had not moved). To me it foreshadowed the rest of the flashback where Jimmy finds out and “takes care of it”

[@sinnamonshoggoth2928]

This is fascinating!! I never thought much about the game and had assumed that the board changing was just it having been jostled by the crash but this analysis of it is brilliant and I’ll definitely be paying more attention to the board when I play the game next.

[@jam-etc]

this is incredible. The detail they didn't have to put in here is just... far and beyond. Everything you've said here makes perfect sense, I can't unsee it. God I love this game. Jimmy having knocked over Daisuke's piece... and about to be knocked over by Swansea's piece, if it was a fair game...... What other tiny details have I missed??

[@rosaline34]

In Hungarian the game is called "Who laughs at the end?" (Ki nevet a végén?) and honestly that's so fitting

[@theresechan2338]

That's amazing!!!! The fact that such a small detail of the game ended up being so symbolic of the whole story...and you caught it, like lightning in a bottle. Incredible.

[@OpalVR2510]

litrally all i can say about curly is that hes wwwaaaaayyyyyyy to kind and thats the reason to his downfall plus he trusts the wrong people and only knows when its too late 9:07 bro called jimbo stupid, here is a sticker!

[@tineboes2726]

Honestly, all I can say is bravo! This is such a small detail that probably no one else noticed and your analysis of it was superb!

[@LenLenBloomz]

In my languge we call the game "čovjeće ne ljuti se" which literally translates to "man don't get angry". (Also I've never been to sweden or anything but I have the EXACT same board at my house as the one in 1:48 just in my language, crazy coincidence)

[@tristezaeternal]

Thank you so much for this video! It was very insightful. This board game is def very important symbol: it's mentioned in a dialogue so in case you don't explore much you still learn of its existence, the board changes throughought the game and figurines appear in Jim's hallucinations so the game exists in all possible planes. So I wondered what it all could mean and I didn't even know it was a real game so once again thank you

[@dreamedwave]

Wonderful analysis and very good watch! Thanks for shedding context on how the game is actually played first before explaining your findings!

[@echo_glitch7759]

I actually grew up with the German version of this game! Mensch ärgere Dich nicht, or don’t get mad in English- it’s interesting how almost every variation of this game translates back to English as something important to the story- weather it’s the US “SORRY!” UKs “frustration” everything comes back to mean something, it’s a small piece yet so cool

[@ada_janset]

this is very good analysis! a lot of people have mentioned the board game but i think yours have been the most comprehensive. Good job!

[@crypti9077]

thank you so much for your clever analysis ! i love how thorough and detailled it is ! Despite spending 5 hours on the first playthrough, i did not take the time look closely at the board game... In fact, i thought it was just a visual pun, as in french, it's called "little horses" (petits chevaux) - I assumed it was also the english name of it ! When playing, we refer to the act of taking another players piece as "eating" it, and that wording makes the first board layout so much more disturbing, with Jimmy's piece being placed right behind Anya's... Also i can confirm it's an excellent friendship breaker. Especially when you're stupid lucky and keep on rolling 6's :)

[@xLollipopSmilessx3]

DAMN, I swear I'll keep finding little details in this game thanks to people like you. This is so interesting and cool. Thanks for sharing!! :]

[@Thesilliestkid]

Holy shit a board game might be the best symbolism ever imo. Everybody's competing (some unwillingly), but nobody wins. Oh my god I love symbolism SO MUCHHHH

[@kingstaze9696]

When I was watching my cousin do a playthrough of this game, we really focused on the board game, absolutely loving how it changed as the story progressed. Glad you made a video on it!

[@venttsur2021]

Awww Jigglet*ts just wanted to save Lasagna Wrap in the board He knew he was good to eat and save it in the freezer 😊

[@tarabelle7716]

I do believe this game is also called Sorry! unless that was just similar- I played it a very long time ago as a child

[@SerialIntrovert]

Yeah, it’s a very similar game

[@tarabelle7716]

@@SerialIntrovert cool ty for answering that.

[@fvvcccc4307]

The kid was able to bring his one figure to the center because the cryopsule was originally intended for him.

[@Reddols]

Theres gonna be more stuff like this that will get overanalysed will there? Lol

[@theresatesalul]

This hits even harder because I used to play this game when I was younger a lot…but I’m German and I know it under the name „Mensch ärger dich nicht“, the rules seem to be the same though

[@theverycringenogoodname8453]

In Hungary this game is called "Ki nevet a végén?" which I would roughly translate into "Who will laugh at the end?"

[@cceres]

The other thing about the game SORRY! is that no one actually means it when they say it.

[@greeningenterprises]

Thank you! Finally wanted someone to articulate the findings I had throughout my playthrough in a succinct manner.

[@jill.jilliane]

Ahh! I was waiting for someone to do an analysis on this. Thank you!

[@cataferre03]

This is amazing! I love your analysis

[@Charls_Died]

Everyone saying the name of the game in their native language gave me an idea. The Polish name of the game is "chińczyk" which literally translates to Chinese/Chinaman. I have no idea why they named it that way, since the title is misleading and because of that many Poles think that the game is chinese, in fact if I didn't watch this video I would've never guessed it was swedish. Now I might be over-analyzing stuff again but I think that this may be a reference to the fact that both the characters and the player for a long time think that Curly was the one responsible for the crash, purely because he was the captain. His title was misleading too.

[@Aleiurf]

Isttg, they chose the perfect board game to be symbolic 😭 Though, it's interesting to learn the game title in other languages!

[@Topboxicle]

I really like the idea of Curly as the board or a non-player, because if you see him as the board, then it reflects how he sees himself an impartial part of the game that can't directly interact with the players (hence him doing literally nothing to stop Jimmy or disallowing Daisuke to enter the ship in the first place.) If you see him as a non-player it reflects his role as essentially a leader in name only, he can't prove himself, nor does he want to, through his actions and would rather watch as the game plays out (hence doing literally nothing to stop Jimmy or disallowing Daisuke to enter the ship in the first place.) Either interpretation works with Curly's dismissive attitude towards his responsibilities as captain.

[@fabiennevlcan-sparks7445]

This was such a good analysis wow, the creators of this game really outdid themselves this isnt just a game it's a piece of playable art

[@Regothelego]

There’s actually a similar game in China called 飛行棋, also called aeroplane chess (Not really the same as a spaceship, but similar)

[@elen3312]

To translate the name of the game from swedish ”fia med knuff”, ”fia” deriving from the latin word ”fiat” meaning ”may it be done”, so it would basically translate to ”may it be done with pushing” or ”may he make his way with push”. and to explain the game a little, of course there are different rules for different players, but you basically get to rerole the dice if you get a 1 or a 6, and gets to take out the character from the home if you get a 1. (But i have never played with two dice so there could be different rules) If you tailgate someone om the game (-always being closely behind them) it could be seen as a threat as if they knock you out you have to restart everything again, so to get out of that situation you basically have to stress to the saftey zone to eventually get out.Kinda funny if you think about Curly and Jimmys relationship and how he always tailed behind Curly and in that turn Curly, unwillingly got to the saftey zone and (hopefully) got out of the game. Could interprete this with Daisuke and Swansea but this feels already like a stretch. I grew up playing the game, i really recommend trying it out it is so fun!

[@Alicia-rv3sf]

I loved playing this game as a child. We called it "airplane chess" in Chinese. Lovely analysis!

[@AndiDromeda]

This video is brilliant.this whole game is brilliant.

[@nont18411]

“Nobody wins” Jimmy wins. And he gets to win in the first place because the system allows him to while also preventing everyone else from holding him accountable.

[@theonebreadlord]

In colombia we call it parqués/parchis (two versions i think.) Comes from the verb 'parking' and sort of means 'make a pause' or 'stop' because the players have to stop sometimes.

[@luka-lukz]

theres a similar arab board game called jackaroo. its uses marbles as the litte thingys you move around and cards instead of the dice!

[@SillyGoobyWasTaken]

Here in Romania we call it "Nu te supăra, frate" Aka "Don't get angry, brother"

[@raseel7897]

Man, a whole video of a board game This game is insane

[@notaaronburr3177]

I’ve not watched the video yet but that board game in the thumbnail looks like ludo (colloquially “ludi”) a very popular board game here in Jamaica. It’s up there with games like dominos. Fun game but is equivalent to like uno or monopoly in terms of backstabbing and severing relationships

[@imliketiitii]

good video!!

[@LinnaV]

Oh in Vietnam this game is called "horse race board game (cờ đua ngựa)" or "seahorse board game (cờ cá ngựa)"

[@robinrabeos7130]

The game is called "Mensch ärger dich nicht" in German (which translate to "Human don't get angry")

[@meow6031]

Could it also be said that Curly is the white dice that enables Jimmy’s movement?

[@mangocc8528]

Great analysis!

[@lostinpencils4254]

Great little video, thanks for sharing! ✨

[@lunastar89]

3:05 My best friend had a Parcheesi game growing up and I grew to hate that game and any game similar cause her mother was so irrationally, overly competitive that on more than one occasion she'd made me cry while playing. So, as soon as I saw that board in the lounge, I was immediately triggered. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@RandoSando.]

Great video and analysis, but why is it that when anya gets verbally abused by Jimmy and doesn't fight back , she's a victim. but when Curly gets verbally abused by Jimmy and doesn't fight back, he's a "door mat." Jimmy verbally abused both of them.He's been violent with both of them in private. He even gaslights curly in one of their private conversations. And curly seems scared to ever make Jimmy angry. They're both victims, but curly is denied his victim status by the fandom because he's captain, Jimmy's "friend," and a man. People forget you can be an abuse victim regardless of your status, gender, and relationship to your abuser. If Curly was a woman, he wouldn't be getting as much hate tbh.

[@savegalkissy]

Curly is in a position above Jimmy that gives him more power to do something about his insubordination. At least theoretically. I don’t think there’s a scenario as-is on the Tulpar where a crew mate becoming aggressive like Jimmy does ends well though, because Pony Express basically handicaps any actual security to be had, with punishments and poor decisions. But yeah, because he has a higher role in the hierarchy of the team, he has more responsibility. I do think that would change if he was a female character, probably because he wouldn’t be so unaware of what a guy like Jimmy is capable of, friend or not.

[@EmmaKennedy-q6k]

He gets the hate cause he's the Captain he got Jimmy the job,and he did the evaluation. He knew Jimmy best and he brought him on board,let anya get hurt and did nothing and allowed his actions to continue which lead to the events of the game. Im sure he didn't try but he can be both,a doormat and victim

[@SerialIntrovert]

As other people have said, Curly has a position of authority on the ship and he needs to enforce the rules when people are out of line. The difference between Curly and Anya as victims of Jimmy is that Curly is in a position of power and Anya isn’t. Anya comes to him when she feels troubled about Jimmy, but Curly actively chooses not to confront Jimmy until it’s too late. Despite supposedly being the authority figure, he never actually exercises that power in any way that matters. Thus, I see him as a doormat

[@ollietree03]

she literally IS a victim of jimmy, he assaulted her. do you not know anything about the game? just say you wouldn’t understand media literacy if it smacked you across the face and move on

[@dummyyogurt5375]

If curly knew he was afraid of jimmy, and how violent he can get, why would he get him a job as co-pilot, leaving him in a position of power ? why would he stay captain, knowing he wouldn't be able to stand up to jimbo if he hurt anyone on the ship ? Curly had everyone's safety as his responsibility. Anya didn't. Anya is allowed to avoid jimmy because her job isn't to keep him in line, but Curly's job *was* to keep jim in line, and he allowed himself to fail everyone, and let them all get hurt because he couldn't do his job after already signing up for it.

[@wuba5456]

w analysis

[@rise9666]

This game is called "Mensch, ärgere dich nicht" in German Translated literally it's called "dude, don't get angry" - because this game does make you lose your mind when playing 😭😭

[@Dies420]

Oh this is similar to Frustration but without the genie (I’ve played this version as well but didn’t know the name)

[@Безымянная-ц5о]

Finally some good fucking food

[@punpunisfeelingfinetoday4601]

daisuke moved two spaces good for him 😂

[@raven.wraithe]

we call it ludo in india, idk what it means tho

[@thegenericviewer7439]

I thought the game was just called trouble

[@Eliskaegg]

In czech we call this game "člověče nezlob se" which roughly translates to "don't get mad".... Maybe Jimbo could have taken that advice?

[@welpwelpwelpwelp1111]

Very interesting. I love it!

[@szymonmuchowicz7190]

In poland we call it "chinese man" xDD

[@peggsnbacon]

this is SO good tbh

[@prklp69]

ah yes, ludo

[@Viviriki]

I wonder if its purposeful that the game is very similar to the canadian game sorry. Im not sure if its the same game or not but the layout is really similar.

[@PissboigrenLogs]

What if I exploded forever

[@jyjaeskz]

That's kimble

[@Linkophere]

I do not for a second doubt the board game was made to visualize and be compared with the crew. Do i think this video is ultra overkill and is attributing meaning to something in order to make it fit the narrative? Absolutely lmao

[@eow4317]

Wait there’s a board game?

[@taiganb3463]

this is an indian gane ludo??

[@B0nvs]

Erm actually the game originates from germany ☝️🤓

[@lamhw]

4:46

[@ZargosK]

@JoetasticOfficial referenced.