(OMORI) Why the Truth Sequence is a Masterpiece! (An In-depth Analysis)

[@regionlocking]

One interesting detail: I like that the realistic hand itself is consistent. What I mean is that it’s always the right hand that is shown. In the photo where SUNNY shoves his sister down the stairs, you can see his right arm is the one he used in that altercation, and in THE TRUTH segment in the recital room, his right hand is the one that’s losing fingers. The hand shoving him down the SOMETHING IN THE DARK encounter is also a right hand. This is very good attention to detail and a lot of other games sometimes don’t get this stuff right. It shows how much effort and revision must have gone into OMORI.

[@madelynmurphy6388]

I’d also like to point out that the right hand is the hand that holds the bow when playing the violin, and is therefore the hand to create sound!!

[@discountedartificer250]

I see the hurting of his right hand as his brain reacting to his guilt like how people do self harm because of guilt, and it’s just trying to keep him from feeling the pain of their guilt

[@Lianzi_Spl]

@@discountedartificer250 could there also be a reference to Left brain, Right brain? Where the right brain is used for reasoning and logic?

[@derpfluidvariant0916]

That or they just reused an asset because they already had a photorealistic hand and they needed a photorealistic hand.

[@pirilon78]

@@derpfluidvariant0916 lmao true

[@JammieBear]

Tiny detail I love about the path to the final photo: The last gate closes behind Sunny after he walks through it. No turning back.

[@G0bl1n_067]

Real

[@Dhalin]

I see the finger chopping as Sunny beating himself up/self harm over what happened to Mari. He sees himself as a monster, and he fantasizes about chopping his own fingers or hands off because his subconscious knows even if his mind is starting to remember and hasn't remembered The Reveal quiet yet, or maybe Sunny was in this mind-frame of "I did it, didn't I..?" as he starts to realize some of the details around her death. That's why the 2 pictures with the scare chords are right after this scene, Sunny's mind is going "wait, she fell down the stairs.. I put her in bed... oh no... I killed her, didn't I?" and a moment later he tries to remember, and yup. He _did_ kill her.

[@errosgeneancheta2400]

I like the interpretation. I did see another comment from another video saying that the finger chopping symbolizes that Sunny was caught "red-handed" or something like that since his hands were all starting to be covered by his blood and I think that's a good interpretation too.

[@sonicdml4175]

@@errosgeneancheta2400 also RED HANDS being a recurring thing in HEADSPACE

[@AluraAlua]

Since the circle of fingers point at him when what happened could no longer be denied, I figure it's also because with each picture it's harder to deny it. So with each picture, a finger is cut off to add to the circle of fingers pointing at him, accusing him

[@trii0dide]

I think that it means he can't escape the truth anymore. Once that last finger is gone, he can't hide it from himself anymore. I think my theory is further supported because of the fact that hands are the things that teleport you when you go too far in white space, essentially bringing you back to it no matter what.

[@ricardosdmkk]

I got severe depression by OMORI,but at least i know how to say "good night" in japanese now

[@omoriperocondrip9130]

*a muffled instrumental version of My Time plays in the distance*

[@croissora]

Same dude, same.

[@qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa]

CLOSE

[@basilsflowercrown7887]

@@qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa YOUR

[@ricardosdmkk]

@@basilsflowercrown7887 EYES

[@actualhuman8013]

"Something's" Ominous tune that plays sounds like a screeching violin. You think similar notes screeched out when Mari landed on his violin 🤔?

[@SerialIntrovert]

That's an interesting point, actually...

[@crisgriffin3042]

It is most likely not physically possible in this case, because violin only creating musical frequency by the bow scratching the strings(they are pulled on much tighter than a guitar strings). Otherwise it'll sound like some raw ethnic plucking instrument.

[@derpfluidvariant0916]

It's actually from a Japanese movie. Idk what it's called, but there's a few videos on it. Cool theory though!

[@thefunniman3285]

Wha- How? Isn't that physically impossible

[@sonicdml4175]

@@crisgriffin3042 Maybe it was a note he was miss-playing?

[@blueglass24]

A couple points you didn't bring up: First, with regards to Basil in the bedroom and the accompanying photo, the whole thing bears striking resemblance to the beginning of the opening sequence when you first start a new game. Basil putting his hands on a crying Sunny's shoulders and telling him "everything is going to be okay." Second, and perhaps my favorite bit of symbolism in the sequence, with the photo of the push itself and only that photo, you are offered a yes/no prompt to pick it up. By that point, the player and presumably Sunny likely knows what it's going to show, so the prompt and the chair combine to be one last form of denial of the event, albeit a shallow one that is entirely unsustainable unless you don't do anything.

[@SerialIntrovert]

Surprisingly, I hadn't even considered those points, so thanks for bringing them up!

[@Aviannauts]

if you check the mirror in the sofa room after you collect the photo, youll see a haunting change to your face some call "hellsunny" i think

[@toasteroven7683]

I always thought that since you have to screw in the white light bulb before you can pick it up is representative of how he has to commit to facing the truth

[@Dhalin]

@@toasteroven7683 The White Lightbulb is meant to be the Yin-Yang to the Black Lightbulb in White Space. The Branch Coral says that the black lightbulb is the "repression of an idea". Breaking it was the beginning of the ending of the repression. What was repressed? The fact Sunny pushed Mari which directly led to her death. So, for Sunny to uncover that photo of what he did with his own hand, he had to take that lightbulb that he got by confronting the truth of what happened that day, and screw it in to illuminate the photo, one final act that Sunny does to declare to himself that he is no longer going to repress it. By screwing in a white light bulb, he's doing the exact opposite of repressing. Another neat tidbit: All of the photos, every single one of them, have been out of order up until that photo. But, once you get that photo, the rest of them are in perfect order.

[@acetylen42]

@@SerialIntrovert Most of the black and white cutscenes between Faraway and Headspace seem to show the actual events that happened, only without context and sometimes with slight symbolism. Like, there's the one before first waking up as Sunny where Basil is helping Sunny deal with the emotions of seeing his photographs after what they did. Then the whole cutscene literally gets scribbled out which makes it the exact moment Sunny blacked out the photos. Basil's line "Let's make some new memories together, okay?" hits so much harder once you know what actually happened later. He's such a tragic character - the only thing he wanted was to not be alone and for his friends to be with him, and he ends up being eaten by guilt over causing the exact opposite.

[@trover5179]

I always interpreted the losing of fingers as the loss of control. Ive always thought the theme of hands in omori double as symbolism for having control and also his accident.

[@Dhalin]

Hmm. This is actually a rather good theory as to what was meant. Sunny realizes that Mari fell down the stairs, Basil says "Everything is going to be OK" and then he steps out into the concert hall room and the next several photos involve him picking Mari up, holding her, Basil looking at his hands, as the whole situation spirals out of their control, despite Basil's attempts to reassure Sunny. Somewhere, deep down, Sunny knows that this will _not_ be OK, it never will be.

[@K1NG-R3X]

I personally see it as a symbolism of the phrase "The Truth hurts". Everytime Sunny finds out more about the truth, he feels more hurt by what he did. Since all of the happenings in Omori are his fault. Aubrey's downfall, her bullying of Basil, Hero's depression, all of it is because he hid the truth, so finding out about it hurts.

[@abdualruhmanbuzari2473]

The pianos grand slam when the photo of sunny and Mari standing at the top of the stairs shook both me and my sister to the core. We both knew at that moment what happened.

[@dominiqueellis9123]

Probably one of may favorite moments of the game. The piano slam says so much with so little.

[@carrotsshirley5792]

That is absolutely my favorite moment in the game. It was so well done. I hadn't put it together yet, but I knew there was something fishy because the sequence of events didn't match what I thought they were (i.e. the trees being toward the end). I gasped audibly when I got to that part, I had to stand up and walk around my room for a second lol. My roommate was very confused 😅

[@Dhalin]

"Bad Morning" (and the room it's played in!!) is also seen in Black Space when Omori is chasing after Basil trying to "rescue" him. In fact, the lamp is right there, and if you interact with the lamp, it says "There is no light bulb here." This is the very same room that you find when going through the Truth sequence. But, Omori was never interested in the Truth, was he? Quite the opposite.. he was intent on killing headspace Basil because he just wouldn't quit pulling the Truth out into the light. Omori probably knew that memory (photo) was laying on the ground, but walked right past it and Sunny's mind just didn't notice it because the room was dark, due to the lack of a light bulb.

[@Emma_Wrox]

Another very interesting thing close to this is that at the end of black space, same room omori kills basil and sits on the throne of hands, on the edges of the path leading up to basil there are actually 4 sprites that consist of 2 light pixels with red around them, and interacting with them simply reads “Finger.” I’m not entirely sure how it makes sense as it’s *before* sunny loses his fingers in the truth segment, but I definitely feel that it relates to that. As it seems sunny lives in “cycles” (since black space and the truth keeps getting moved, at the end of Humphrey the wall keeps talking about breaking the cycle, as well as the headspace reset in hikkikomori), sunny might have discovered the truth once or several times before omori simply ‘reset’ his memories again.

[@Dhalin]

@@Emma_Wrox hmm. I'm kinda curious as to what happens if you overlay the two maps together, if the locations of the photos in the concert hall match up with where the fingers are laying in that area... doubt it, but you never know. It sounds crazy, about as crazy as the fact that the weird tone you hear at the very beginning of the game (before you see white space for the first time) is exactly the same as the tone you hear in the Hiko Route when Omori saves Basil before he ascends the ladder of hands up to Neighbor's Bedroom and there's only one other place the tone is played: If you lose to Omori and wake up in White Space as Omori right before he throws himself off the hospital roof.

[@Emma_Wrox]

@@Dhalin just looking through recordings of both that place and the truth segment, I can say that they most definitely won’t line up exactly, since the spacing between the fingers are far more than the photos (understandable as the path is also far longer), however, they do alternate side (from bottom to top) left, right, left, right, which is the same as the truth segment (assuming the stage where you spawn is the “middle”) so I guess to a miniature scale?

[@Dhalin]

@@Emma_Wrox I wonder if the horizontal placement lines up, though. And yeah, the Red Space section is definitely stretched out to build up tension as you walk and walk and walk and follow the drag marks with that eerie screeching in the background, BUT, if the Photos line up horizontally... then that would be incredibly amazing.

[@xVovex]

In other words, I guess you can say Omori left Sunny in the dark

[@drasnezae2370]

I think the cut fingers refer to him practicing over and over in the violin, because in the unused text for the black photo album, a picture says: your fingers hurt of playing the violin (or something like that) Thanks for the video! Is awesome

[@Darticus42]

Yeah, I always interpreted it as this as a manifestation (?) but also serving as an allusion to the pain he's feeling re-living the truth of what happened that day. Why it's depicted as his fingers getting chopped **off**, I'm not quite sure. But given how Omori in a lot of ways was an extremely violent manifestation of how his coping mechanisms had served to protect him but became no longer needed / got in the way of recovery, the brutal visualization here too as he continues down that painful path toward acceptance and recovery feels fitting.

[@TaelluricInterlude]

"Some might say the Final Duet, the Bad Ending, or the first scare" I Fucking love Air Conditioning

[@leafinx]

About the finger cutting Sure, it’s about self harm, but I have a different take. The player is thinking, “I’m hurting myself, but I need to figure out the truth” Similar to sunny’s thoughts, which are “it will hurt, but I have to relive that truth.”

[@DhrithionVocals]

I had this thought while playing as well haha it felt like I know it hurts to know but I need to know the truth

[@craycraywolf6726]

I think both are true!

[@viiovi5681]

A bit of an idea for the hand thing. The photorealistic hand is the same hand from the first encounter sunny has with something on the stairs. If you rewatch sunny as he goes downstairs there’s a hand that follows him, and eventually it catches up to him almost seemingly pushing him, quite similar to the truth.

[@K1NG-R3X]

I personally see the finger chopping as a symbolism of the phrase "The Truth hurts."

[@VerticalFlyer47]

In the game, Basil states that the photos aren't actual photos, but rather, their collective memories of that day

[@alostsol143]

Once you pick up the photo at 10:39 , if you interact with the mirror on the left again the mirror will now show a clearer view of the distorted view of sunny. It scared the life out of me when i first saw it

[@kassiaactuallydraws9361]

@[REDACTED] Merg just finished playing the game and he got it, idk what timestamp tho :(

[@ObtuseWaffle_]

@@kassiaactuallydraws9361 I went at found it its around 31:10 when he looks at the picture the second time

[@TAGoHD]

10:16 This is also what Sweetheart's castle turns into if you take up the Keeper of the Castle's offer, which you can only do on the hikikomori route. I actually saw it on that route before I saw it here, and it didn't make much sense to me at the time. Sunny's (or, perhaps more accurately, Omori's) deepest desire is for everything to go back to the way it was, and how the castle is transformed reflects that.

[@greisly8114]

since i am stupid, the scene of Mari's hair with one of her eye changing into something blew my mind. Since The incident happened when sunny is so young and clueless, the view must have struct him so hard, and his memory could not erase it completely, and istead, distorted it in such a way. It is really ironic to reflect how guilt could easily rip a view of one person.

[@mizuecto40]

The truth sequence and of course a little bit before the final boss fight to final duet are literally two of the best sections i have ever played in a game. Even when I already knew what was going to happen when I was playing this for my friend, I still felt that tension and the impact was still not lost on me (for the truth sequence). Just, I fucking love the chord when you finally see what's going on with Mari and Sunny on the stairs. It's fucking so chilling and I get chills every time.

[@happyec.7492]

I think the finger chopping scene is kinda like Sunny starts to regain the memory, even if it's not so clear, he started to blame himself. All the pics there are hand related, I think in Sunny's POV he'd be like "If I don't have my hand to push Mari, nothing like this would happen" and that thought grew stronger as he discovered what did he done to Mari with his own hands. IDK tho this is just what I think it is

[@lolymop333]

I don't get how people think she was still alive when she was hung when the game made such a big point of her not breathing while laying in her bed after being pushed.

[@vojtechkorhon4159]

Maybe she pulled an epic prank and just held her breath

[@Hekkle01]

@@vojtechkorhon4159 we do a little trolling

[@VasilyTolsty]

Sunny may had thought so, this would've explained why every scene with Basil in the black space ends up with Basil's brutal death (as if Sunny tries to blame Basil for Marie's death, note that these scenes happen before the truth scene). What makes this hypothesis interesting is that basically both boys (as well as the players) may see both of them as murderers.

[@lolymop333]

@@VasilyTolsty I see it more as offing a whiteness because it would make things easier. That and Sunny desperately trying to avoid the truth at all costs and kill of that bit of guilt constantly nagging him, embodied as the only whiteness, Basil.

[@Ray_Tam]

@@lolymop333 actually Basil being missing in almost the entire game in headspace could been seen as how Sunny was represing the truth and by that the person that was also there when everything happened, so yeah Basil being killed in Blackspace really could simbolice how Sunny doesn't want to remember such a traumatic experience

[@yamihatarou7850]

If your favorite Omori scene is the bad ending I respect your right to have an opinion and support you but I am also judging you and your life choices

[@DezAmmySel]

I like them both. As someone struggling with thoughts that aren't exactly _nice,_ and mental health issues always a shadow in the corner of my eye, I'm glad that they didn't shy away from being explicitly clear on what was happening in the bad ending. The song hit hard, and watching Sunny spiraling downward, spiraling for the last time...That hit hard too. But the hardest hit came when I reopened the game to play the good ending, and nobody was there... Just an endless sky as the world went on without him in it. That being said, I liked the good ending as well. They made it so hopeful, heartwarming and inspiring. They also made it daunting, heartwrenching, and difficult to choose. But above all, they made it clear that getting to this point was a long, hard struggle, and it wouldn't all just stop hurting afterward. The trauma was still going to hurt, and he'd still struggle... But he realized that his friends would be there to help, that he was loved, and knows to reach out when he needs them. He realized that he isn't alone. And that's why I like BOTH the bad and good endings... I can relate to both. I can relate to that downward spiral, and wishing I could make the choice to just spiral one last time and never, ever hurt again. I can also relate to that feeling of hope when those you care about say that they'll be there, that you aren't alone, and the hope that you'll make it in spite of all the struggles and pain you've had to/will continue to endure. The hope, scary as it is, that you _dare_ to have... The hope that you'll eventually be okay again.

[@nettleblack1421]

Just imagine how tall is this building if Sunny falls for almostly 2 minutes

[@Sans_loverr]

Close

[@andrewsigler7437]

@@nettleblack1421 average hospital's like 60 feet it's just a stylistic choice lol

[@Likes_to_learn]

I saw one comment about the finger chopping him beating himself up. I disagree. Hold a large item in your hand you have a grip of it. Remove one finger. The grip is weaker. In my opinion it's him losing his grip on the lies and slowly coming to reality. If you look at the hand it's Omori's hand. Omori is loosing his grip on Sunny. But to do so it's causing a lot of pain in the process. The more Omori "loses his grip" on Sunny the more Sunny can embrace the truth.

[@skaroGD]

I find the truth sequence more scary than black space. Black space is just surreal.

[@aloooominum]

i think the hand might have something to do with the fact that omori’s power is fading as sunny finds out the truth. omori sits on a red throne made of hands, which symbolises his control over the dream world and his suppression of the truth about mari. as sunny finds out the truth, omori’s control begins to fade as he isn’t able to hide it any more, which could be represented by the hands losing their fingers

[@ketereissmore3967]

My favourite scene over the whole Truth sequence is likely when Sunny sits on the armchair, it would turn into a bright, peaceful room with descriptions of how great the environment is, but when Sunny gets down, everything turns into hell. It's especially brilliant, considering how in the hikki route, it's omori ideal room It's a perfect visual representation to make the players actually feel how Sunny feels to suppress the truth compared to accepting it, making us truly understand why he would have coped with the method he used

[@vixar2580]

When I first saw the Great White Orchid near Basil's grandma and then in the lost library, I immediately thought it was Basil's thoughts (about Mari), reaching into Sunny's dreams (mainly in Black space), and trying to tell him the truth

[@travelingwares]

I really like how bad morning sounds out of sync and is simplified to the basic notes: it sounds as if sunny is humming it by memory; especially with how it steers away from the notes of good morning at the end. To me, it sounds like someone trying to sing themselves their favorite song in-order to comfort themselves- but they don't quite remember the tune anymore. It fits perfectly with the section it's put in.

[@bumbabees]

it kind of reminds me of sixs theme from little nightmares. 'cause its pretty similar. a childs voice humming, quiet and slightly out of tune, as if shes afraid and trying to comfort herself.

[@Skylerthebean]

I have a bad feeling my crush isn't gonna be mentally prepared once she finds out the truth in Omori because she is right near the end.

[@mightypurplelicious3209]

Your crush will be crushed

[@axolotl593]

Does everyone’s crush play omori?

[@Skylerthebean]

@@axolotl593 Nah I dragged her into it

[@Skylerthebean]

UPDATE AND WOW THIS WAS A YEAR LATER: SHE WAS DEFINITELY CRUSHED BUT SHE LIKES THE DUET??? WHAT??? 😭 and she no longer my crush, we dating but that's besides the point of this update-

[@ero-senninsama1734]

@@Skylerthebean congratulationsss

[@DarkShadow-qj9np]

10:43 yo, you forgot the part after you collect the photo and you look in the mirror again... his face is visible. The face looks hideous, as if he IS seeing himself as a monster

[@sehmyail3294]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWjagmCZf5l0e9U Around 29:19

[@DarkShadow-qj9np]

@@sehmyail3294 yo i legit watched his playthrough, also i saw it myself while playing the game on January.

[@flyguy8814]

My favorite part of this sequence is the armchair in the room with the falling photo. Sitting on it kind of represents a piece of Sunny’s old coping mechanisms, and both the good and bad that comes with them. On one hand, the escapism allows you to take a break from an overwhelming situation. It could paradoxically make it easier for Sunny to pick up the photo, for all we know. But theoretically, the chair can also be used in an unhealthy way, like the rest of headspace is. What if Sunny were to decide that the chair was not just a temporary place to relax, but a place to stay forever to avoid the picture in front of him? He’d be in a calm refuge of a place... but he’d never be able to get up from the armchair, and would never be able to participate in a more fulfilling scenario in the outside world for as long as he refused to move.

[@puppyhowler]

the truth sequence is by far my favorite part of the game, to me, it's one of the best plot twist reveals I've seen in most media. the whole time you were lead to believe that mari had committed suicide, then you take a horrific and agonizing trip down memory lane and find out it was actually manslaughter at the hands of her little brother. also, the amount of foreshadowing that leads to this point is outstanding.

[@QweRinatrtY]

3:30 More than that. The entire truth sequence is played out in the dream, meaning that there is no rational way that a "truth photo album" could exist in real life. The reason why Basil gives you this is because the photo album withholds your memories permanently, similar to the way that Basil will forever be cursed with the knowledge of Mari's true cause of death.

[@lucifersatan8240]

I belive Sunny gets bloody because His mind is trying to get him out so much it is literaly riping him apart with each photo. Also explains the hands.

[@sobs7070]

I agree a lot, this was one of my favourites aswell

[@the_real_bo]

why aint u at mcomoris

[@sobs7070]

@@the_real_bo Why ain't you at MacDonald** Edit: Sorry, I had to.

[@bonniebella7384]

About the chopped fingers, every interpretation can be possible. But the first thing that came to my mind was that during Sunny and Mari's rehearsals for the recital, his fingers would've hurt from how long he was playing the violin. His fingers hurt and he can't even play the violin as perfectly as Mari expects him to be. He played the violin just so he could spend more time with his sister, but with him breaking the instrument and accidentally pushing Mari down the stairs, it ironically made it no longer possible for him to see her at all. An easy explanation of it in Sunny's POV would be "If I didn't have my hands to push Mari, this wouldn't happen."

[@Hermit__]

This was everyones "oh shit" moment

[@human-1223]

The truth hurts more knowing Mari once risked her life to save Sunny from drowning.

[@Ghostie-Tempura]

I always found the "Mari's eye being open" scene as a figurative narrative, as in "I can still see you, Sunny." even after she was dead. Something being her literal dead shadow/clump of hair was the most creative thing I've ever seen, and makes a whole lot of sense looking back at the game. It's giving me the vibes of Sunny never being able to get over Mari being dead and that his sister is still haunting him, albeit in a more creepy way. It can also be a literal representation of trauma, and that Something was a product of said-trauma. Why he can't get over her and in extension, it. Ugggghhhhh the moment I saw the noose and the shadow I was like "THIS WAS SO CREEPY BUT SO FUCKING CREATIVE. BUT ALSO THE SCARIEST THING A MALADAPTIVE DAYDREAMER WITH TRAUMA CAN THINK OF." I really regret sleeping on this game, I'm seriously hooked. 😭

[@ventusse]

I believe the main reason why the photos are based on Basil's point of view is that Sunny still have not accepted the truth, that is why he is looking at it on a third person's perspective. He is still dissociating himself from the events. That is why once he picks up the photo where he pushed down Mari, all the photos beyond slowly shifts from Basil's point of view to Sunny's point of view. When one undergoes a traumatic event, some people dissociate themselves from the event by telling it in a third person's perspective. By doing so, it is making their mind believe that the event did not happen to them, but to someone else. That is why usually in a traumatic response, acceptance is the hardest to do since it makes you accept that yes, those events happened to you, and yes, it still affects you to this day.

[@tripacesfellas7011]

The Truth is by far my favorite scene. Apparently it made a lot of people cry, but I was just in so much confusion and then shock once I finally pieced it together to even cry

[@lizy9117]

I always loved that Aubrey shoves basil into the lake, in a way that mimics Mari and Omori.

[@mau7917]

All I can say is "WHO MADE THE MUSIC!?! AND WHY ARE THEY SO TALENTED???"

[@keroppi1933]

I think Toby Fox (creator of Undertale) helped with the music, so that would explain the banger music

[@mau7917]

@@keroppi1933 Holy shit bro

[@welcometovibespace5596]

@@keroppi1933 Toby fox just did one ost tho ( Merry CD )

[@keroppi1933]

@@welcometovibespace5596 oh shit, my bad, his name just caught my attention in the credits, either way him and everyone else that worked on the soundtrack did one hell of a job

[@welcometovibespace5596]

@@keroppi1933 oh it’s ok ^^, I think it’s important to give credit to all the people that worked on this project instead of just one famous person for such bangers

[@notnotandrew]

This portion of the game might be the most memorable scene I've experienced in any game - not only does it deliver one of the biggest, most horrifying twists I've ever seen, but it does so in a way that is completely unique and is only possible in its medium, thereby showcasing the potency of videogames not just as mere mindless entertainment but as a means of telling a story.

[@alandoyle1077]

9:09 just got an ad with upbeat music when he was about to play the soundtrack

[@Haddosan]

10:44 I hate that people always forget to check the photo of sunny again after picking up the photo…

[@uselessavocado306]

The forbidden Hellmori

[@Haddosan]

@[Insert cool username here] sure, I’ve seen one or 2 streamers make the find

[@mythiivukcevic1346]

I see the finger chopping as a last-ditch effort of Sunny's mind trying to stop him from remembering. In the scene, Sunny gets more and more mutilated as he picks up more photos and the way I see it is as a way Omo-cat was showing us that.

[@iansebastian8623]

7:15 I don't think anybody's mentioned this on KZbin before, but those lines are the exact same ones you see in the opening scene of the game, as you see Basil comforting a crying Sunny. I think it's brilliant how horrifyingly knowing the truth changes the whole meaning of that scene.

[@TabbyKat472]

I accidentally spoiled myself about the truth about Mari’s Death (Thank you Fandom) so I already knew she was dead all along but I did not know what they did with her body by framing it as suicide so it was kinda left me shocked and speechless for sometime. Honestly this scene is beautiful yet scary at the same time.

[@anahiapcay9042]

To be honest Mari being dead was sth you could guess before they mention it in the game. In your first night IRL, if you open the door before going to sleep and encounter Mari, you can infer that she's dead by the reflection on the bathroom's mirror, you can even infer that she died hung up by her twisted neck. But even if you don't open the door on the first night, the fact that there's no trace of her in the house, Sunny hasn't come out in four years and Kel is worried are pretty obvious hints

[@vanponiewaz7575]

About the hands, I interpreted them a bit differently. A recurring thing in Omori is that Omori is always near red hands. He even sits on a throne of them and holds Basil captive with them, showing he’s definitely in control of them. They drag you back to whitespace if you wander too far, keeping you away from the truth. When Sunny picks up the pictures, parts of his memories come back and a finger comes off symbolizing Omori losing grip on Sunny’s mind. Once he’s picked up all the pictures, the hand has no fingers and Sunny knows the truth. Omori loses his grip on him completely and that’s why they have to fight over it. I know the hand isn’t red but the realistic look of it makes me think it’s still Omoris. It’s kind of greyish which could be Omoris actual hand instead of the red ones he controls.

[@usodayo_]

woahh, none of this would have ever crossed my mind! great analysis, now I'm really intrigued for more of your analysis-type videos!

[@Den-rc7uf]

Oh yeah, the scribbling over the family photo means: Sunny, after 4 years of being a hikikomori, clearly might forget everyone. (Remember the hellmari jumpscare and who was behind you door when you opened it? Remember meeting kel, as who he was before you opened the door? That's right, Sunny remembers his friends are their Headspace versions.) But yes, Sunny, for some reason, never forgot Mari.

[@prisma.]

The moment I saw the photo of Mari and Sunny arguing, everything became clear. I skipped a heartbeat I couldn't believe it. It was "Oh... please no..." I couldn't contain my tears. Playing that whole sequence at 1 in the morning was something I'll never forget, even still replaying it again, it hurts just as badly. I never noticed the symbolism of how the photos were arranged, and how the places was basically reconstructing the truth. My favorite detail is definitely the last picture, where Mari looks back at Sunny. That was the moment Sunny's mind broke. Despite not breathing, she wasn't dead yet, but they went and hanged her, they loved her, and they killed her.

[@grumpy5131]

Even if you can still be "alive" after not breathing technically, I think the game wanted to signal to us that Mari wasn't alive before they hung her. Trust me, I want to think that they hung her and killed her- that's a headcanon want to have, but I just don't know if that's the case

[@fruitloops2058]

I'm just saying if the photos in the truth were actually real and Mari *was* alive even after the fall and died from being hanged.... I mean i know they probably weren't real/isn't true but Holy shit.

[@mizuener]

when a dead body dies their eyes pop out and they have to be closed again

[@letsreadtextbook1687]

I know thats a theory thats been floating around, but i really disagree as the point of bringing Mari back to their room first was because they hoped she was alive. Only after the all possibility that she was still alive completely gone that basil thinks of his plan

[@peachy_keen8498]

While i feel she was more than dead by the time she was moved, it is possible, given the fact that SOMETHING’s main characteristic is its eye, it could be symbolism for what her DEAD EYES possibly could have “saw”. Bc in one of the route before the Last Resort segment (the boardwalk sequence), instead of KEL being at the dock, it’s MARI herself. It’s hinted that during this segment that it wasn’t HEADSPACE MARI that ur with, but that its MARI herself as a ghost of sorts. While far-fetched, it could be MARI’s ghost’s perspective of events in the photos? And she’s showing us the truth from HER perspective? Idk about the last part, but the first part of my comment is more likely than the last. 😅

[@peachy_keen8498]

@Alyssa Coon yeah, tbh the 2nd part of my comment was early-morning spitballing too. But yeah, that makes sense too. Ive seen OMORI fanfics explore the “Basil’s memories/thoughts being in Sunny’s dreams” theme, and it DOES make sense, especially in the Hikkikomori route w/ Deeper Well and Black Space(s). While its highly unlikely, i kinda hope the creators continue OMORI in some fashion, whether by games, manga, etc., just to get a better glimpse into the story and lore of OMORI. Different perspectives and such.

[@zetroll0372]

Yay, another one! Edit: goddamn, there's more symbolism than i expect. There are some that i notice but shove it to the back of my head (like the lightbulb and blackbulb) and some that i don't even notice (like the "flower and Mari" and iv drip ).

[@htfcirno2000]

I think the hand represents the absolute shear pain that happens when you are confronted with memories of highly regrettable actions. The pain may be entirely in your head, but it feels as real as losing parts of your body.

[@whatatrashname8049]

I think the fingers being whacked off is pertaining to the part where he's being pointed at, he was the one who did it, all of his fingers are pointing at him because his mind forgot but his limbs remember if that makes any sense.

[@tiffanu]

I saw the fingers being removed as him forcibly letting go of the repression. In a gruesome, gory, self-destructive kind of way… 8:00

[@lawrencewei3583]

a lot of the truth sequence is foreshadowed earlier in blackspace; for example in the mirror area, his face becomes bloodier each time he shatters a mirror until hellmari appears

[@sourwinee]

i’ve also seen people having misconceptions of the “picture” where sunny “shoves” mari down the stairs this always confused me cuz i always thought it was sunny reaching out to mari who was falling down the stairs at the moment

[@row7356]

Seeing some people complaining about the truth scene being illogical and ruining the game cause it doesn't make sense and is medicore baffles my mind. I was so in awe during this scene, it was so well done and impactful that I literally had to get up and take a break from watching the let's play I was watching because it was hitting me so hard mentally. I've never had to do that with games I watch before. I loved the whole truth sequence.

[@Door_Meme]

ah ye, omori, the only game capable of sending chills down my spine

[@micaffeine]

Maybe I thought too much into it, but I remember an instance where we were shown Basil's photo album cover and it reads "Basil's Memories", so to me, the photo album kind of symbolizes what memories Sunny thinks Basil have and the pictures are Basil's memories.

[@Mia_or_Mika]

I heard someone say they interpreted all the finger imagery as representing how Sunny's fingers hurt from playing the violin all the time

[@held2053]

2:10 Basil holding the traumatized Sunny HOW THE FRICK IS HE DOING THAT PHOTO THOUGH

[@MartinMendoza2134]

I thought the photos weren't actually taken in real life

[@lauren-gv4fg]

@@MartinMendoza2134 these photos are memories, the comment is a joke probably

[@AulusAugerius]

By using the timer function, of course.

[@pedrojoffily8401]

The fingers are used for playing the piano and the violin. as the music and its emotions are literally the cure for Sunny in the end, when the fingers were being cut before, it shows how the situation seems hopeless, and also as punishment; not longer being able to play the instruments (for both; guilt about her and shame for him)

[@elijahbradley704]

The truth sequence was what made me truly adore this game's writing and really made up for the wack pacing of the midgame headspace segments

[@splatoonlover5322]

I think that the something was hanging for the noose shadow was another look at how he was never able to get the idea out of his head that it was hair

[@davinsaputra3341]

man i never realize they play bad morning in that sequence. All i remember is goosebump

[@supaturtle]

literally the BEST plot twist in the entirety of fiction.

[@suavebutler2860]

The closet by the stairs: Sunny is pretending its not even there, simalar to when he sees Basil dead, his door dissapears, and the text "theres nothing there" is shown when you interact where the door used to be, just like the closet

[@poody_blue1116]

regarding the fingers trope that was used a few times in the game, i always interpreted it as sunny spitefully regretting playing the violin at all, as that was the catalyst to everything in a self loathing and self harming twist, we visibly watch as his fingers are severed if i didnt have fingers, i couldnt play the violin if i didnt play the violin, i couldnt play with mari if i didnt play with mari, she wouldnt have been so hard on me if she wasnt so hard on me, i wouldnt have gotten mad if we had never fought, she would have never fallen everything would be ok in a similar twist we see dismembered fingers on the bloody trail to basil in red space, where the red hands stole him away and omori has to save him- where he instead decides to kill basil and takes his seat on the throne of hands if basil didnt have fingers, he couldnt have tied the noose surprisingly, everything might have actually been ok if he didnt notice that mari's head is, naturally, tilted down to the ground as she hangs- yet her eye is fixated on the boys- requiring her to hold her eyeball up to look at them many argue that eyes dont need to be closed for someone to be dead, but that completely misses the point the point is her head is DOWN, but her eye is looking UP she was still alive :^( the stairs didnt kill her, and instead the noose did, and thats why basil was so much more distraught over the event than you might expect, thats why he asks you to forgive him, and it's why despite your actions, he's still equally as guilty

[@DezAmmySel]

But you also have to remember... Sunny and Basil were both children when this happened. They may not have known that one's eyes could stay open after death. She could have had that eye open, looking down, but in their horror, all they could think was that she was still looking at them... _Blaming them._ The part where Mari's corpse transforms into that Something signifies that this is still just the way Sunny's mind recalls the events, even as he tries to recall them as they happened, his young mind was full of panic and grief, and it's reasonable that he assumed that. He was only a child... Basil probably felt awful that he came up with that _childish_ plan to help Sunny, only to realize that he only made things worse for him in the long run as they both matured and Basil watched him continue to hide himself away... Only once he'd matured did Basil realize the consequences of his plan, and he blamed himself entirely for Sunny's continued decline.

[@fleurettea]

I agree with most things here, save for the last part. The game has made it a point to show the player over and over that while Mari was still in bed (when Sunny and Basil brought her up) she was already *no longer breathing* -- meaning she already died before they hung her. I also agree with the comment above -- that while Mari's eye was open due to the body's muscles relaxing, the eye looking directly at them may have been a distortion of what they were truly seeing due to how they were under such pressure, panic and grief. It's probably because they knew subconsciously that they were guilty and none of this was okay, and so Mari 'looking' at them solidified for them that they are the ones to look for for blame.

[@TightSweaters4]

Since you brought it up, I like the bonus scene in the good ending where you've been watering the flowers. Streamers react to fighting Omori please?

[@justsomeordinarycheeseman5569]

Yeah but it did you know this scene literally made this fandom stupid and make nonsense memes because they're trying to cope with the pain?

[@xroxannex3591]

And the birth of using AYO THE PIZZAS HERE is born

[@reintempest2552]

Humor is the best medicine for depression

[@mategetsnosleep3612]

Basil fight is my favorite. The stressed out scene is so sad because you can tell he doesn’t want to do this but can’t handle it once again.

[@mimemmo1988]

One detail that I haven't seen mentioned much is that the cover of the photo album in the real world and in headspace is 'Basil's Memories' Which makes sense in the context of the truth scene. Aside from the fact we see both of Basil's hands in multiple photos, the photos are literally INSIDE 'BASIL'S MEMORIES' (though technically just Sunny's perception of them but you get it). I just thought that was a really neat detail that's easy to miss.

[@redroyalty910]

You did an awesome job explaining this scene! Great video man

[@TimeoMarine303]

Final Duet not actually sad but The Truth is makes it sadder and more Dramatic but for me The Truth is the best

[@Haddosan]

When you pick up the spotlit photos in the recital place it doesn’t play a piano chord but just one dark ominous note

[@craycraywolf6726]

Gosh I love the music used during this segment too! It's so perfect, and Remina is *ESPECIALLY* a favorite of mine!

[@tinytert]

when I experienced the truth sequence, I was clueless. One thing I do with any piece of media is try my best to not think or theorize while playing or on my off time of playing, that way everything is a surprise. As I was picking up each and every photo nothing clicked. I didn't get what it was trying to tell me. I knew something had happened, I knew something was bad, but it all hit me when the final slideshow of all the photos happened. it hit me all at once. I was stunned. Finally for the first time in my entire playthrough I couldn't stop thinking about how terrible it was, how I would feel in that situation, how I knew that none of my friends could ever forgive me, I felt all the exact same guilt sunny did. I was terrified of myself. It took a lot to continue after that, I still haven't played the bad ending but I already know what the outcome is, (thanks a lot spoilers) but I feel like if I had the choice to do the bad ending straight away as that happened on my first playthrough, I would of done it. The Truth sequence is by far the most emotional and mind bending scene I have ever experienced in any game. Omori will forever be my favourite game because of this one part. It was truly an experience.

[@kylehatespotatoest6615]

I feel like after the bad ending, they could have put bad morning on the title screen or something

[@thorgidogofthunder]

8:00 caught red-handed, maybe?

[@cinnabvn4787]

If you listen closely to the bad morning track. There are these random pause like when omori plays space boyfriends piano in head space

[@stonerosesfan1989]

You've made some good points, another piece of quality content!

[@Nintendogs08]

I really love the sequence at 0:58. It makes the video feel like a Creepypasta reading or something lol

[@TheAntiGravityMaster]

legit, I've watched this scene a dozen times because it's so good

[@stormquake4930]

Spoiler for the shut-in/omori route that I thought was interesting after watching this If Omori destroys sweetheart's castle via the Keeper, it becomes a room identical to the "happy" version of the one where the big reveal occurs. When Sunny sits in the chair and the room brightens, 10:20 , it's also identical in dialogue to when Omori sits in that room. I wonder what that could mean.

[@Brilchan]

What I love about this is Sunny's parents knew the truth and helped the kids with the framing possibly by refusing an autopsy by citing religious reasons and cremating the body. His father resents him and by the behaviour of the mother(Not interacting with him much letting him become a shut in) I think she has not forgiven him as well. It seems to me that they thought reviling the truth will only make things worse... Boy where they wrong! Anyway thanks for making this great video.

[@Anokosciant]

Hands : This is all you have

[@rareoats]

I just noticed that the whit light bulb had “omori” writen in it

[@h0lodm0966]

7:15 buffsil

[@RedAppleJuiceSB]

Sad fact: the photo of basil comforting sunny, he is partially calming him down, he is actually waking him of because i believed so much happened he passed out and that’s when the “Head Space” was created

[@pukingisOK]

For me the chair room and the room with scattered instruments here mean so much to me. Sitting in the chair with everything seeming normal really does give the player a perspective as to how nice it seems to repress everything and pretend nothing happened. He's dissociating further from the truth like that, which isn't a healthy coping mechanism but knowing how he was young, that was probably his only good option- to him at least. That moment on the chair could also we his last moment of denial, despite everything already becoming painfully obvious at that point- hence the moment when you get off the chair. That's what dissociating *is*. Pushing away from the current reality to mentally place yourself somewhere seemingly safer because you most likely don't have a good place to process everything healthily. The music that follows after you pick up the two shocking photos of realization is like some kind of anxiety. I feel like Sunny probably flinched seeing the two photos hence the piano cords. To me its almost like him being triggered by seeing them and starting to become afraid, but he's remembering more as he goes. and I think the hands pointing at him is him starting to panic and immediately blame himself for what he's done. also I agree with the interpretation of the hand losing fingers being Omori losing control and 'the truth hurting', because the truth hurts. I really loved this video and analysis I think this sequence is definitely one of my favorites sections of the game tbh.

[@The_Milk_Man8658]

I think the fingers being chopped off could represent how sunny thinks he deserves some kind of punishment for killing mari. I heard cutting off someone’s fingers is/was sometimes used as a punishment that was symbolic to clearing someone’s red hands, or in other words someone repenting for their crimes, so that could tie into how sunny holds a grudge against himself for killing mari. The game also shows some hints that suggests sunny cuts himself, such as omori stabbing himself to wake up sunny, so there could also be a connection between the hands being chopped off and sunny cutting himself. In this case I think the connection is Sunny’s hatred against himself for killing mari

[@mistionx9496]

the truth album is my favorite part of the game, it’s so genius. if you think about it, the player isn’t the only one finding out the truth. sunny is as well. through the album, this is basically sunny realizing he’s been lying to himself the entire time, and has been forcing himself to forget and hiding behind the lie that mari hung herself. hiding behind that lie not for the sake of not getting in trouble, but for the sake of his own sanity. to not have to take on the mental damage of killing his own sister. the truth album represents sunny realizing that he needs to stop hiding from the truth. that he needs to stop running away, that he can’t live in his precious little world of sunshine and rainbows forever.

[@leokeehl1033]

i think sunny's face glitching is more about the disconnect of yr front brain and your back brain when having dissociative flashbacks 6:43

[@MySnugglePuppy]

After collecting the photo in the armchair room if you go and look into the mirror again you can see a lit up disfigured and bloody version of Sunny’s face, a lot more clear than the one seen before the photo is collected.

[@scootie_scoot]

this was one of my favorite parts of the game. The indirect storytelling reminds me a lot of yume nikki, dot flow, or the animal crossing horror village, aika village.