Severe Water Damage to Our New Tiffin Wayfarer: It Doesn't Make it Home From our First Road Trip

[@Gsnoop440]

So sorry to hear about your troubles. The more I watch about Tiffin products it looks like they are in the same category as the Grand Disasters!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Grand Disasters. Ha ha. We haven't really featured trailers in many of our videos, but we have heard about the issues with Grand Design. In all fairness, we've been watching Liz Amazing videos and it seems that nearly every manufacturer is having build issues lately. Thanks for the support.

[@traveldreamer4616]

I agree with you. A new RV should not have major problems.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Amen to that.

[@kjb04147]

Better call Liz Amazing, she’ll work to get you a buyback from Tiffin!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

That option is definitely on the table if it comes to that. We'll find out soon.

[@Myopinion411]

I was gonna say the same thing I feel so bad for people buying these rigs and having to deal with stuff like that Manufacturers had better learn and quick to up their quality game

[@TOLOW1962]

@@kjb04147 that's the first thing I thought of when I saw the headlines of this video call Liz

[@halffasttravelers2702]

She is definitely building a reputation for helping RV consumers. We saw that she was able to get a full resolution for the couple with the $800k Class A. A victory for the consumer indeed.

[@Myopinion411]

@@halffasttravelers2702 we love watching your videos. Praying safe travels for you both. I just hate your vacation plans were ruined. That's just not acceptable from the manufacturers, people are spending too much money on these rigs to have to be worried about problems and ruined vacations. It's gonna take extreme decline in sales to get their attention

[@rickytecon5726]

Sorry to see this. Thank you for sharing.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

It's all part of the adventure. Thanks.

[@prestomattwine]

Sorry to hear about your experience. I would love to get a trailer of some type sometime, but have seen too many people having issues right off the bat! You’re completely right, it’s unbelievable that these manufacturers are able to keep passing these shoddy trailers on to consumers. I’ll never buy a slide out!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Prior to purchasing the Tiffin, we almost pulled the trigger on an Airstream trailer. We find them beautiful, and the brand despite being owned by Thor has retained a reputation for quality. The only downside was the cost. They are more than twice the price of comparable travel trailers. No slide outs though.

[@LauraMcBride-p1x]

What a nightmare! We are currently shopping for our first Motorhome and honestly it seems hotel/Airbnb is more reliable, less expensive and more importantly less headache! Geeze

[@halffasttravelers2702]

There are definitely advantages to both travel strategies. We grappled with the numbers prior to our first purchase, and it was certainly close. In the end, we just wanted to experience the RV lifestyle, and we haven't regretted it despite our issues.

[@jeepsandrvs]

We really gave Tiffin a look when shopping for a super c. Did not go that route due in part to recent manufacturing quality concerns. However, we have spent the last 4 months getting the bugs worked out on our Renegade. None are perfect, but we do feel like the Renegade is more solid overall. Good luck on your issues and hopefully Tiffin will stand behind it. Loved talking football with Mr. Tiffin the past few Tampa RV Shows.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We're sorry to hear about your issues with your Renegade, we firmly believe they are one of the best manufacturers out there. Your experience goes to show that RVs from every manufacturer are susceptible to problems. We wish you the best of luck with your Super C.

[@rocinanteontheroad]

I am so sorry this happened. We were asleep when water came flooding in a top of us in our 2023 Wayfarer. Kevin a tech in Red Bay gave us the low done on this problem at the Manufacturer on our first time taking it to Red bay for warranty work (we had a list of 32 items to fix!!!)

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Wow, we hope you noticed the water quickly and were able to prevent more damage. Our "warranty fix" list is a little shorter than yours, but we are still waiting for delivery of the new recliner set so La Mesa can complete the replacement/repairs. We are going up this week to see what progress has been made,, and hopefully we will be able to provide an update after that. Just curious about the level of service you received at Red Bay. Did you get the unit back quickly, and were you happy with the results? Inquiring minds want to know.

[@MrRMB1]

Sorry to hear about your water damage. We have a full slide with a topper and I honestly have no idea how to check it. I see you're supposed to get hammered with a major hurricane this week. We're praying for all of our Floridian friends from Pittsburgh. Stay safe kids!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks. Luckily, the hurricane is going to completely miss our area. Maybe we'll get some rain, but we are hopeful that those in the storm's path will heed the warnings and remain safe. On a side note, we have been very lucky when it comes to hurricanes. We haven't had a direct hit in our area since Wilma in 2006, and even then we only lost a couple of trees. Many in the area did lose roofs on that one though. We hope you stay safe as well. Happy Travels!

[@karinwest919]

so sorry this happened to you. we had chassis problems with our Class C that forced us to turn around on a long planned trip, so I know the frustration . Hopefully all will be fixed to your satisfaction. Wishing you all the best!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thank you so much. We are aching to get back out on the road.

[@lisahance]

Take a shot every time one of them says "this shouldn't be happening in a new coach". Seriously though guys, I'm so sorry you went through all this.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We're always up for a good drinking game. Ha ha. Thanks for the support.

[@nina_g6857]

Water leaking in any brand new RV is 100% unacceptable this should never happen SHAME on Tiffin that RV is insanely expensive the quality should be exceptional!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We couldn't agree more. Thanks for the support.

[@Gods4Horsemen]

I am so sad to hear and see this. I was excited for you when you bought your dream couch but I can’t even imagine how sick you feel. I actually loved your patriot

[@halffasttravelers2702]

At this point we are just chalking this one up to the whole "RV Experience." That may change after we find out the resolution to our latest issue. Dan does miss the Patriot sometimes, but we are not sorry for the purchase, yet.

[@AlanBennett866]

I can not begin to imagine the frustration. I know the price point is not the same but you may want to take a look at Coach House in Florida. Their one piece fiberglass units do not allow water to work its way into the coach.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We have seen their units, and we really like the one-piece design. Chinook does this as well on many of their units. We weren't really big fans of the interior styling of the Coach House though. We are second guessing the decision to buy a unit with a slide though.

[@AlanBennett866]

@@halffasttravelers2702 Coaches are like homes-they either feel right or they don’t. For me, with health issues, I need an RV that reduces stress, not adds to it. Reliability is key. I’ve heard buying used can be a smart option if that’s a concern. Price is always a factor: Tiffin lowers costs by paying based on speed, while Coach House pays hourly, raising theirs. Mold is a big issue for my health, so it's great the RV industry offers so many options. I really appreciate both of your channels. Integrity and character are rare, and your transparency means more than you know. Keep up the great work.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks, we will continue to do the best we can. We appreciate you posting this information for our viewers.

[@mschampagnediva5303]

That’s it. We’re getting the BVan. I was really thinking the C would be roomier but I can’t with the amount of issues you guys have had.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Our Patriot definitely had fewer issues, although we did blow an inverter in Arizona. That is an advantage of the B Vans, their simplicity compared to the larger coaches.

[@mschampagnediva5303]

@@halffasttravelers2702 oh boy! We live in Az. Deftly eyeing the Grech. We looked at the Lineage by Grand Design but with all the slides I’m thinking we better just stick with the B.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Grech makes a beautiful product, but they're a bit on the pricey side for us. You do get what you pay for with them, we've heard a lot of good things. Good luck.

[@jacquesmeyer41]

What a bummer. Hope they can get it all fixed up for you. Water damage is no joke.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

You can say that again. Thanks.

[@joangosselin]

Boy oh boy, what a bummer. So sorry to hear this awful news. Keep on keeping on. :)

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Will do. We'll continue to make lemonade out of lemons.

[@joangosselin]

👍

[@karenfrancis5572]

We have a 2020 Wayfarer TW, and thankfully, we haven't had any major issues. I'd be calling Bob! Tiffin is supposed to be a reliable rv. Sorry you'll be missing your trip out west Good luck.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks, we were hopeful to have one of the good ones, but it seems like we are having our share of problems. We are hopeful Tiffin will do the right thing, but if not, Bob will be getting a call from us.

[@scrapinmaniac]

Reason just bought a sprinter van 2019 for good price and will be doing my own built. It’s not worth getting new RV. They are pretty on the outside but rotten in the inside. Sorry to hear about your issues.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks for your support. How excited you must be to do your own build. That's something that Dan wishes he had been able to do, but we are getting a little long in the tooth to take on a project like that. We wish you the best of luck.

[@azklr]

Sorry for you guys having to go through this. With that being said i will never buy a Tiffin!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We still love our Tiffin, but it seems we have joined the percentage of those who have these kinds of issues on the maiden voyage. Bad luck for us. However, we still love our Tiffin, and until we find a better option, we are sticking with it. Thanks for the post.

[@TinkerBell67]

You both are amazing and I can’t believe you are having issues with your new RV. I hate also you had to cancel your upcoming trip but it’s wonderful seeing you both remaining positive and upbeat. As for your cruise to AUS, you are going to love it. I had a 9 month work assignment in Western Australia and she’s gorgeous. Lots and lots of Roo’s 😂. I’m a beach bum and OMG Margaret River is stunning. Rose, unfortunately you’ll have to go to a reserve to see a Tasmania Devil but they are cutie pies as well as the Koala Bears. Stay safe and take care.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

OMG thank you. We really are looking forward to the upcoming cruise. We've never been down under before. We do plan on going to at least one of the reserves to see the wide variety of animals. Thanks for sharing your experiences.

[@davidsack7488]

I feel your pain.. With our new (2016 at the time) FR3 we had soooo many problems it became unbearable.. screws falling out fro the top bunk as we were driving it home .. a blown transmission gasket.. replaced the bed slide motor twice, misaligned steering wheel, all the batteries stolen while in storage, side board on the kitchen booth bump out breaking loose, toilet become loose, floor being ripped by the kitchen booth bump out .. all in less than three years.. we gave it back to the bank..its soured us forever on rv's

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Wow, that is an awful experience. Hopefully, it doesn't come to that. We can certainly understand your decision to leave RVing behind. Thanks for sharing your story as a cautionary tale.

[@thebrock12]

I’ve seen so many videos lately of these million dollar machines just falling apart. I just don’t understand it’s like the quality is gone and I’ve seen a lot of people fight about their warranty so good luck.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

So far so good with the warranty claims. They have approved everything thus far. We are anxiously awaiting the results of the repair. Thanks.

[@athenaskellion7738]

When we were in the market earlier this year, we did highly consider the Wayfarer. Fortunately for us, we found a canceled order for a 2024 LTV WONDER. Picked her up in March... only issue was a bad Firefly display, which was replaced in a few days.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Yes, we really liked the Wonder, Dan especially. The problem, as you mentioned is limited availability. We also had an issue with the Firefly in our Patriot, but it was an issue with the separate power switch rather than the unit itself. It was a very easy fix though. Enjoy your new RV.

[@jjones5424]

You might consider having Lazy Days either put your motorhome outside in the rain or place a sprinkler on the motorhome for a few hours and "TEST" the fix that they performed. I would sure hate to find out on your next trip that it still leaks!! They could "Monitor" while it's raining if any water is coming in. Just a thought.........since you are waiting for floor repairs to be done.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Our Rep told us that she was going to pour water on the exterior to ensure there is no further leakage. However, we will not be relying on that. When we go to pick it up we plan on retracting and extending the slide multiple times while testing for leaks with ample water. We will not be accepting the unit until it is proven to be watertight. So sad it has to come to this. We're hoping they get it right, and we can get back out onto the road. Thanks for the advice.

[@liaodesign]

I hope they really fix your issue u should call them constantly and if able stop by and check your rv my experience in the past I was told theming got replace or fix and when I check clearly was just patch work or not even fix at all but just cover up.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Yes, you are absolutely right. It's just unfortunate that we live so far from the dealer/service center. We have been in constant contact and are planning to go up there today or tomorrow. We'll give an update when we have one.

[@liaodesign]

@@halffasttravelers2702yeah I feel you my rv dealer is 3hrs away

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Ouch!

[@janicecrockett1400]

I feel so sorry for you two. I would want a full refund because this is probably a precursor of things to come. You really need to move on from Thor and anything under the Thor umbrella.

[@donalddodson7365]

I wonder if the RV manufacturers are unable to hire and retain skilled employees anymore? Many employers in Kawlifornia are having staffing troubles now

[@Esteban-du2we]

It's a Thor, say no more

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks, we are in "wait and see" mode until they deal with these issues. If they are able to make it like new, all will be good. If not, we could be in for some rough seas ahead,

[@janicecrockett1400]

@@halffasttravelers2702 I would keep a eye on every step of their repairs.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We are actually heading up there in a couple of days to see what's going on. If we can film it, we will.

[@PandaLAG]

Oh geez... this is not acceptable. I feel so bad for you two. I hope Tiffen will stand behind this camper & get everything repaired properly. Considering you have a yt channel & alot of subscribers... should give you a bit more "power", since you have influence. 😉 God bless & be safe. ❤

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Well we're not sure how much power we have, but we are going to do whatever we need to ensure the RV is repaired correctly. Thanks for the support.

[@randyfeldman428]

Go to Red Bay Service Center in Alabama for future problems instead of dealership. Could have had this all repaired probably in 1 week. I have been there 3 times already!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

WE almost went there right off the bat. It's so far from home, but we agree that we probably would have had it back by now. Thanks.

[@Sandy410NJ]

I would get in touch with Liz Amazing as suggested by others. You started with electrical issues and now you also have water damage. Make sure you document everything. Good luck👍

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We have been watching her videos, and it seems the hardest problem she resolves for these unfortunate RVers is getting someone from the manufacturer to reach out and assist with resolving the issues. Fortunately, we are in contact with an excellent tech at Tiffin, and he assures us he is doing everything in his power to come to a timely resolution. We are on top of it, and will definitely consider reaching out to Liz if we run into any brick walls. Thanks.

[@KylesRV]

She is a con artist. Don’t trust her. She makes her living selling negativity.

[@stevemurray2737]

@@KylesRV Liar.

[@chipsrafferty8362]

Class B,NO SLIDES,for me,no towables,nothing but “B’’.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Dan is with you on this one. It seems like there are fewer components to break, although that could be misleading. Some of the systems in these new Class B's are very complex and designed to fit into tight spaces.

[@davidew98]

looks totaled! This is 100% a buyback, I would not pay for any repairs! talk to liz amazing ASAP!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We’ve done a few updates you should check out. For now we are happy with results. Time will tell.

[@eyeswideshut2800]

Thanks to all of you for showing us what TRASH these companies build.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We always caution people to treat these stories as the anecdotal evidence that they are. The horror stories make the headlines, while there are many whose RV problems are much less severe. Our love of RVing has not been diminished.

[@TravelingwithBeigeBettyRV]

Not Roses butt😅😅😅 holy crap! We are shocked there weren't more curse words😮😮😮

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Yeah we edited those out. Ha ha. You might have heard some if you were in one of the neighboring houses.

[@fantastiqueberliotz1209]

Once Thor bought Tiffin, quality went down hill fast. Now Tiffin is now junk like all Thor products are. So sorry this happened to you.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks, we are hopeful that Tiffin will provide an acceptable outcome for us. Fingers crossed.

[@jimabritain2175]

I am wondering if there could be anybody at the executive level of Tiffin who might consider that if they just take back your new 2024 Tiffin and work with you to get you into the same model 2025 Tiffin with locking drawers, much needed increased headroom, etc…that you would be more likely to be better ambassadors to the Tiffin brand on your channel without having to sponsor you.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We can report that Tiffin has been very responsive to our issues and we are hoping to be back on the road very soon. All options are on the table at this point. We'll keep you updated.

[@tmc9525]

Put the slide out, it seals differently when extended

[@halffasttravelers2702]

You are correct, that's exactly what we ended up doing, and along with dropping that side of the RV, the water could no longer travel up the slide to get in. Thanks.

[@Mustlovedogscatstoo]

Holy moly what a disaster! While we had our share of problems NOTHING compares to what you have experienced! May I make a suggestion to you….DO NOT rely on the dealership solely. While they may emphasize they work at a snail pace. CALL TIFFIN CORPORATE HDQTS!!! File a complaint and ask to speak to the representative that is assigned to LaMesa for your Tiffin. The second call I would make is to LaMesa corporate headquarters and let them know what you are dealing with. I hope you get your issues resolved. Water causes a lot of damages, some you can’t see, like mold. If I were you I’d hire an RV inspector before taking possession after repairs are done. I don’t trust these people.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

This is great advice. Thanks for sharing. We have been in touch with Tiffin, and if everything doesn't go well with the repair, we may end up driving to Red Bay, and leaving it there until the issues are resolved.

[@Steve-Jody]

Well someone has a chitload of money to waste ! I bought a RV during Covid, just sold it and took a 45k loss. Lesson learned. Fly to resorts and enjoy or just drive.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Ouch, definitely a tough lesson. We are hoping for a bit better outcome, but are preparing ourselves for the worst. Driving and staying in resorts isn't a bad idea either.

[@billkrill4656]

One month old? 😮

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Yup, it seems like we are getting more than our share of initial problems. We expected to have some minor issues, but admittedly, this is a bit more than we were hoping for.

[@MAXF1P1]

Tiffin is not what it used to be!!!! I feel terrible for you guys. I think this repair if correctly done will take an incredible amount of time. I have zero faith in this shit industry to do the right thing. Be aware of major mold issues down the road as well.

[@ctbrodie]

From experience, I agree with you. I had a 2015 Open Road that was magnificent. And then I got a 2023 Midas that was not. But the Tiffin service at Red Bay, especially for the small units, is second to none. And don't count on LaMesa taking care of you. They will delay and delay because they will say they have to get warranty approval from Tiffin. And that will be for every little thing.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We really appreciate the support and advice. You have inspired us to take a trip up to La Mesa to get a first hand view of what is going on with the repair. We have definitely considered just taking it and heading to Red Bay, but we hope it doesn't come to that. Thank you both.

[@sandydemars8100]

I'm so sorry this has happened to you. We have had several problems with our Thor Tellaro. We have unloaded it All, several times for repairs. It is very disappointing to spend more time fixing than traveling as we have done. Thor should give us pain and suffering. I never believed in that until now. Seriously. I think I may need Xanax and counseling. We love your channel and hope you get it all taken care of! Without a Doctors help lol. You guys keep joking and laughing! What else can you do? And thanks for making us laugh with you even through your troubles.

[@rickytecon5726]

Are there any C’s or B plus. With a sheeeet? That doesn’t cost 200 plus grand?

[@rickytecon5726]

. Worth a sheeet. I meant

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Ha ha. We have heard good things about Leisure Travel Vans, Renegade and Pleasure Way, and while they do have MSRPs at or over 200K they do offer substantial "discounts" bringing them into a slightly more affordable price range.

[@SpykersB]

😱 omg I feel bad for u guys. Yeah your floor would be rotten, this is a huge repair. Slide has to come out to properly repair the flooring 😬. And your recliner replaced. I'm seeing Tiffin just isn't the quality workmanship they used to be. Yeah definitely want to hear how the repair goes along. Um, ever think about just having one channel with all your adventures? Cause u know many channels have variety of content on their one channel eh? 🍻

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Yes, they are probably going to have to take the whole thing apart. Meanwhile we are without our RV. Hopefully, the cruise will mitigate the distress we are feeling. We separated the channels earlier this year on the recommendation of "Tall Man RV" and after researching the You Tube algorithm. Apparently, having two main focuses confuses the search engine and keeps many from seeing the videos at all. We also weren't certain that RVers would be necessarily interested in our cruising, and vice versa. We left some of the older cruise videos on this channel if you are interested, but for the latest, including our South Pacific cruise, you'll have to check us out over there. Thanks as always for the kind words and support.

[@scottg9208]

I understand you wanting to be upbeat but not enough people are holding the RV industry accountable for this shoddy quality. If it were me I would be returning this RV and demanding my money back given the BS you have had to deal with on a brand new RV.

[@scottg9208]

I would also add that if your flooring linoleum has buckled, that means the base flooring got soaked. That means the entire floor section needs to be replaced and I am almost certain this is not something a dealership can effectively repair. It should probably go back to the factory. At the end of the day, Tiffin owes you a replacement (new) motor home. I would not settle for anything less, period.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks for the information. We agree that Tiffin needs to make this right, one way or another.

[@georgek719]

Tiffin is made my Thor Industries. Not exactly a stellar reputation. How much research did you do before buying a Tiffin?

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Yes, we knew that Tiffin's parent company is Thor, but so is Airstream's. Airstream has been mostly allowed to operate independently, with Thor handling the financing side, and we were hopeful that Tiffin may have been allowed to keep much of its autonomy as well. We did speak to many Tiffin owners who loved their Rvs as well as some who had experienced problems. Of those who had problems, they were mostly happy with the way Tiffin handled the warranty repairs to get them through the first wave of issues that new RV owners experience. This figured heavily into our decision to make this purchase. We firmly believe that no manufacturer is immune to problems in their RVs, and it is the way they handle the resolution of those issues that makes them an "acceptable" brand or not. As we've said before, despite our problems, we are not prepared to write off Tiffin as a "good" brand. We will make our real decision once we see how they handle the warranty work on our coach. Of course, we will let you know the outcome. Thanks for your post.

[@RobertLindsey-f3z]

Sorry for you guys but i think i will not be buying an rv in the future during retirement

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We don't blame you. An RV is a huge expenditure that comes with a certain degree of risk. If you end up with problems, then you could face additional expenditures and down time. That being said, we do not regret our purchase, and we look forward to many more RV adventures. Thanks for posting.

[@rvadventuresbigandsmall]

Take it to Tiffin in Red Bay NOT any dealer

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We are in contact with them, but Red Bay is pretty far from home. We have no problem taking it there if it comes down to that though. Thanks.

[@michaelburt1946]

The best day in a Tiffin manufacturing managers life is the day the warranty expires on one of their poorly built products

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We haven't really looked at it from that perspective, but you may be right.

[@pampeirce1322]

Sorry y'all had so much trouble.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We appreciate it. Thanks.

[@theresejames8826]

Small 🍋. To big 🍋.😢

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Very funny. Thanks for the laugh.

[@kentancock6587]

Just out of curiosity, but if you drop $90K on a camper, shouldn't the dealer or someone complete a quality checklist? If it is missing a wiper seal, shouldn't that have been spotted by someone who has worked around these devices all their professional career? You see this is why I want to avoid all motor-based campers, There is no workmanship on these items. It can be a lowly Dodge Promaster and you will get the run around from all the companies involved. That's why I am leaning towards an ATC camper, It's a pull behind, but there is ZERO wood to get wet and rot, and being a welded aluminum unit, it is less likely to develop mold.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

You are making some good observations. We're sure there is a checklist, but these rely on the worker doing their job in a near perfect manner, which by the way is what we should expect. We are big fans of "one-piece" units as there is less chance of an exterior water leak, and aluminum rather than wood seems like a "no brainer" as well. Thanks for your post.

[@darlenemary5274]

Unbelievable with how expensive these RVs are that they have issues like this! Shame on American workers putting this stuff together

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We agree that for the price the industry should be doing better.

[@pronobashwin]

This is really frustrating. We've always been renting Campervans/RVs for the last 20 years (including one overseas - in New Zealand 20 years ago) and we're finally in the market to buying one only to find out about new owners having multiple issues with theirs; one of the reasons we're on your channel...honestly its really discouraging to see how quality control has gone down the tube over the years. And you're not having one, or two, but multiple issues, I mean really? Im curious. Will you try getting rid of it and get a new one?

[@halffasttravelers2702]

That is a great question. Unfortunately, we do not yet have an answer. We are waiting to see what happens with the repairs before we make any drastic decisions. It could get very interesting soon, when it's time to pick up the RV. Stay tuned...

[@Gemini-kl1wn]

Tell Thor you want a buyback.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We're not there yet, but all options are on the table.

[@TheRealdal]

I would have bought some tarps

[@halffasttravelers2702]

That actually was the back-up plan if our solution didn't work. We were concerned about winds from Tropical Storm Debby. Luckily, our "slide-out" solution worked and we were able to prevent further damage. Thanks.

[@farmchick1464]

Didn't Tiffin sell to Thor? sad when a family owned company with a great reputation sells out to a huge company that does not care. Guess Thor is willing to damage the reputation and quality of something they spent 300 million for!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Yes they did, but you would think that it would be in their best interest not to meddle in the manufacturing processes of a brand that had been known for its quality. You gotta wonder what they were thinking.

[@raoulroberts2024]

I am so sorry, Dan and Rose. You guys do NOT deserve this at all. No one buying a new rig ought to be subjected to this type of experience. I hope that your repairs are handled expeditiously and completely, and any other yet-to-be-seen issues are addressed. 💙🤍❤️

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We are with you on this. Thanks for the support and kind words.

[@hiflyer1825]

Anytime there is water damage on a brand new RV, GET YOURN MONEY BACK. You will have mold, rot, roof leaks, etc., etc., etc. I'm a 20 year full time RVr. NEVER buy 2015 or newer RV, they are total inferior quality!!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

If only it were that easy. Consumers need to be aware that most states do not include the RV "house" in their lemon law statutes. We are reliant upon the manufacturers and dealers to do the right thing. We are in wait and see mode.

[@williamsnow1213]

This is typical of Thor , shouldn’t ever happen with a Tiffin. We have been looking to get back into RV Market and not sure with all the quality issues I keep seeing.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

It is definitely a "buyer beware" scenario. It's seems like it's getting harder and harder to find a quality product. Many commenters have posted that we should have bought used instead. Of course, that comes with a completely different set of issues.

[@liaodesign]

@@halffasttravelers2702I dont think used is the answer. Buy rv is pure luck now

[@halffasttravelers2702]

That may be the case, but we aren't helpless. We have really learned the value of having a full inspection done prior to purchase.

[@kqschwarz]

You end this video talking about how you are going to review some new RVs for your channel. That will be fun to watch, but I can't believe you continue to look at RVs after the fiasco that is your new RV. I feel so bad for you, as you took a financial hit trading in your last RV, you were so excited about your new RV, and now the new one is a lemon. I also can't believe you had to cancel your trip. Tiffin should have at least given you a loaner until yours was fixed. Personally, I would have demanded my money back and would not accept this RV back when it is "fixed". You have way more patience for these things that I know I would have had given the exorbitant prices of new RVs these days. One other thing, it is clear the manufacturer uses a ton of "goop" to seal the various openings created by things that exit the top of the RV and the slide-outs. I can't believe they do not have manufactured bolted-down fittings with sealing gaskets for these items. Seems half-$ssed construction to me, but I have seen the same from other manufacturers. I am surprised there have not been class-action lawsuits on the poor construction methods of RVs. Hopefully there will be some big lawsuits soon, which will help folks like you that plunk-down nearly $200K on a vehicle that leaks so bad you lose a whole vacation season and does not have enough power to climb hills. A sorry state of affairs. All the best.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks for the well wishes, and kind words. You make some great points about the construction methods for the new RVs. If it appears we are patient, that may be because we did not film the many rants we had during our issues. We choose to spare you from those. We are going to keep making videos about RVs because despite our many issues, we still enjoy the lifestyle. We believe that there are a large number of RVers who feel the same way. However, our future reviews may be a bit more critical now that we have experienced some component & construction failures.

[@kqschwarz]

@@halffasttravelers2702 I didn't really mean you should stop making reviews (I love your reviews, they are very complete and the banter between you and your wife is fun). I only was referring to the fact that you must be reeling from the troubles with your brand new RV and might not be ready to look at "what might have been had you purchased another brand's RV". Of course, there can be teething pains from any new purchase of a complex piece of equipment. I guess my comments reflect my dismay that one could have had so many issues with a piece of equipment that is so pricey. I would have thought water-testing in the factory would be standard practice, especially considering the number of holes they put in the roof and sides of the vehicles, but I guess not. I really hope they get it fixed for you so (1) you two can enjoy your travels and (2) we can enjoy them vicariously through you. All the best.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Sorry to have misread your comment. Thanks for the compliments. We are going to try to use our experiences as a source of "guidance" for all those wishing to make an RV purchase in future reviews. Knowledge is power, even if obtaining it hurts sometimes. Thanks so much for your support.

[@mr.stickyfingers3189]

Why did you guys buy new? Always buy used when buying an RV everyone

[@halffasttravelers2702]

There are good and bad with buying new and used, One of the real deciding factors was that we really wanted this floor plan. Unfortunately, the previous model years had an unacceptable cargo capacity rating. That left us with a difficult decision.

[@eyeswideshut2800]

I would not want it once water has gotten inside, water is more destructive than fire. It travels to wherever it wants and destroys and you can't follow.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We completely agree. Mold grows very well in the South Florida humidity. We are hopeful they will be able to mitigate the damage. Thanks for the post.

[@barbaraalexander4715]

Scarey new rvs. We bought a used 2018 before covid crap quality issues.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We have heard so many horror stories lately. It's nice to hear a success story once in a while. Thanks for posting.

[@dalemarshall9736]

A shame Tiffin joined Thor. I''ll bet if they were still independent people would not be experiencing such horrendous situations. Too much emphasis on maximum profits now.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We have been hearing this a lot. These manufacturers have forgotten that the key to long-term success is to keep your customers happy and well serviced. Loyal customers create sales.

[@brysonglegg8019]

Try to get a buy back. It will never be 100% fixed.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

That option is certainly on the table.

[@steven.sievers]

Welp never buying a Tiffin that’s for sure!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We can certainly understand why you would feel that way. However, we aren't going to write off the company until we see how they handle the repair.

[@JamesDonovan-p5r]

You will not have it until Feb next year

[@halffasttravelers2702]

God, we hope not. Can you imagine the situation we would be in if we lived in it? We feel sorry for those folks.

[@johnsandell4501]

So happy I don't own an RV. Too much down time.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We remember this same feeling when we had a boat. It seems like it was in the shop for extended periods whenever it went in. It gives us time to plan the next trip.

[@davidlantz4136]

Tnx for the video sorry for your problems but it's helping people to not buy from tiffin because seems the quality is not good. They should buy it back because could v Be so many more problems in the future!! Don't buy tiffin!!!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

If the repairs are not acceptable we will definitely be exercising our options. Right now, we are in wait and see mode.

[@justmyopinion9041]

This is so disturbing,The amount of money that these RVs cost and what you get for your money, is 200,000 + pile of junk, The fact that they only warranty these things for a year and most people barely get a week before its back in the shop with a major issue says all you need to know. The people these companies are now hiring seem to have ZERO skills or training, and give less than that about the product or the people who Buy them, I will never Buy one again I consider myself lucky, the generation before at least took pride in what they built, These companies better get their heads out of their A$$E$ because i don't see people standing for these Junk pushers much longer.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

You are echoing a sentiment that we have heard from many former and current RVers. It's unfortunate that it has come to this, but we are always hopeful for change.

[@horizon42q]

One answer - Thor

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We hear you.

[@edmalts]

Once again another customer with motor home problems, it just gets worse and the manufacturers don’t care. Contact Liz amazing for your problems. FYI.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Yes, these type of issues with new RVs plague the industry. We are familiar with Liz Amazing and we haven't had the need to reach out to her, because we have been working with our Tiffin Rep from the start. He has been very helpful, and understanding. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@sherriecapp3234]

Another quality control problem. Shame on Tiffin. They should be better than this.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

To say we were disappointed, would be an understatement.

[@lisawright9626]

RV stands for Ruined Vacation!!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Ha ha, We hadn't heard that one.

[@johnnyjumpstart1]

this shouldn't be a repair...you should be given a new Motorhome

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We are very happy with the RV, and we are of the feeling that as long as we can be assured that every component that was exposed to water has been repaired or replaced, we would be OK with that. We are working closely with our Tiffin Tech and the service folks at La Mesa.

[@stevemurray2737]

Tiffin has been ruined by Thor. Your unit is permanently damaged. You need a Full Inspection before your Warranty is up! Trade that thing in on a Leisure Travel or Pleasure Way. Stay away from Thor related companies, Forest River, Winnebago, (Grand Design). Bring a Moisture Meter and check the entire unit including the bottom of the repaired Slide. I would bet there is Mold everywhere. Sorry but you should have had an Outside Inspector before this Purchase.Big mistake. Hope it works out!

[@liaodesign]

Avoid wenniebago too?

[@halffasttravelers2702]

These are great suggestions. Thank you.

[@stevemurray2737]

@@liaodesign All of them. They RV Companies work for their Stockholders. Not the Customer.

[@liaodesign]

@@stevemurray2737I currently own a Thor class b been thinking about Winnebago view class c

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Of all the coaches in the Winnebago line-up we like the View the best. The "new" model we saw at the Tampa show in January had a very unique design that was really nice, but didn't really fit our RV style. You have a tough decision to make. Good luck.

[@eyeswideshut2800]

Great when do the rats show up, rving is very trying.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Ha ha. We are trying to treat this whole experience as an adventure.

[@reneewebb7401]

My faith in this company is gone. I thought this was a quality product. This is ridiculous.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

The good news is that they seem to be doing what they can to bring us to a successful resolution. We'll see...

[@cherylhughes2988]

Tiffin was bought by Thor. Thor makes garbage.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Many people are agreeing with you in the comments. Do you think they are listening? We hope so.

[@liaodesign]

@@halffasttravelers2702no they are not

[@sandydemars8100]

That's exactly what I was going to say. Thor. Dangit.

[@quantumquestions5849]

Tiffin bootleg.