An Update On Our Water Damaged Tiffin Wayfarer & It's Not Good: More Leaks!

[@timmurr1672]

Tiffin needs to buy back your RV. It will never be right.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

That is definitely on the table. We are still in wait-and-see mode.

[@CantankerousCrow]

We came very close to buying this model, but in the end went for a simple travel trailer with no slides (Intech OVR Navigate). So glad we did. Good luck!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We are happy you found the right RV. Sometimes, simple is the best way to go. Happy Travels!

[@ncylee4]

Oh my goodness. Outrageous. You guys are so positive. I can’t believe you drive all the way up there before they checked it. La Mesa and tiffin are so lucky you are so generous with your graciousness. I hope things improve and you get a solution soon. Praying for you and all FL during this storm.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks. In all fairness, they were in the process of trying to get the hundreds of RVs they were servicing picked up before the storm. To say they were busy would be an understatement. Despite that, they took the time to ensure we were taken care of an we appreciate it. Thanks for the support.

[@Bex81]

You guys better keep posting these videos so that Tiffin will do right by you! 😢 They need to buy back your RV asap! Maybe get an attorney? Best of luck during the storm!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

It's not our intention to strong-arm Tiffin, but we do agree that all RV manufacturers should do whatever they can to keep their customers happy. It's just good business practice, and will result in long-term success. Thanks.

[@PhilCouling]

I'm so sorry to hear this and wish you well. Your tribulations with a brand new Wayfarer, have completely halted our own imminent purchase of a new Wayfarer. We plan on living a good chunk of the year in our RV, and experiences like yours make it completely out of the question. These are huge investments to make, and this kind of failure is completely unacceptable.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We consider ourselves lucky that we are not full-timers. We don't know what we would end up doing in that situation. We wish you the best of luck with your RV purchase.

[@cschwonke]

So nice to have found your channel and really enjoy your videos! Sorry to see the problems you have experienced already. We too are new Wayfarer owners having purchased a 2025 25RW a couple of months ago. We will definitely look forward to your updates. We live in the PNW and have been in a lot of rain with it but have not had water intrusion like you have experienced. Even though we try to get the slide topper cleared of water and debris before bringing the slide in we get a small amount of water on the floor behind the drivers seat that we're able to mop up with a rag. We are scheduled for our first service next week and that is on the list to have the slide wiper checked. I did notice after we bought it that the rubber slide seals had paint overspray on them so they weren't sealing properly when the slide was extended so I was able to clean them off. Love your "Ruby" toad. We have a 2020 Willy's 4 door that we have previously towed with another Class C but unfortunately it's too heavy for this unit so we will have to downsize to something similar. Hoping you get all your issues resolved soon!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We appreciate you following along, and we'll keep you updated on our progress! Thanks for the information on your experiences. We were hopeful the issues we were having weren't due to a fatal design flaw. If the design works, then they can fix it. Fingers crossed...

[@cschwonke]

@ Guess we spoke too soon. After heavy rains and wind last night we went inside the rig this morning and found a puddle on the floor near the kitchen drawers and water dripping out from the ceiling light above the microwave. Everything was closed up with our coach at our home. Not sure where it’s coming from. Nothing mounted on that side of the roof with Coleman Mach AC being the closest. Dealer service scheduled for next week.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Oh my! That is terrible! We're beginning to question the sealing methods they are using for these rooftop mounts. We found out that the running light leak we experienced was a bad seal as well. Aren't they checking these before they leave the factory? We wish you the best of luck with this repair, and would greatly appreciate it if you could let us know how this works out for you. Thank you.

[@fantastiqueberliotz1209]

Rose is my spirit animal. She has barely contained rage and with good reason, but she's holding it together. That would be me as well although I'm not sure I could keep it contained.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Ha ha. You have made a perfect assessment of Rose's attitude toward this whole disaster. Dan is just hoping that her "rage" doesn't surface during the whole process. We are dealing with the disappointment for now, and we are hoping that this whole issue gets resolved quickly and with a satisfactory conclusion. We will see...

[@LauraMcBride-p1x]

We are 1 year from retirement. It has been our lifelong dream to buy a Motorhome and travel. Never had a RV of any kind so watching videos and reading reviews is part of the “homework”. I know it is impossible to please everyone, so I do take reviews lightly but just wow! I hope the industry can turn it around, this is really unfortunate when it could be rectified so easily. Quality Control should be front and center!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We hope you don't get too discouraged. RVing has a lot of positive sides. You just need to make sure you do your homework prior to your purchase which you seem to be doing. Kudos to you. We wish you the best of luck.

[@sharoncheney1767]

At this time, I would suggest that you take your RV to Red Bay! We had a new Phaeton and on our very first trip we had to go to Red Bay. The first year of owning our MH, we spent close to three months (on 3 different trips) in Red Bay - but we were wanting it perfect! Tiffin will fix everything for you, but you have to be patient! So sorry for this! Getting Tiffin to give you a new RV or going to a different manufacturer doesn’t mean your new one will not have any problems. If at all possible, take it to Red Bay. We were lucky enough that we were retired and could stay with our baby until it was perfect! Tiffin’s motto is job isn’t finished until you are happy! Good luck! BTW - keep up positive attitude - this is just a bump in the road!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We have heard many good things about the facility at Red Bay, and we did offer to drive the coach to Alabama. However, our Tiffin rep has faith in La Mesa's ability to make the repair so we are going with that recommendation, for now. Thanks for the information.

[@woodybailey]

Man I am SO sorry for you guys... BUT... it's a huge lesson for all of us - for that thank you!. I've been worried about Tiffen (Wayfarer) for awhile as beyond the terrible OCCC (prior but recent years) it seems more and more complaints about build quality have surfaced. Hope they can save face with you guys.. and if not.. well they just don't know who you are or how popular you are online. Best of luck my friends!!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We are not all that happy to be starring in this "Cautionary Tale." But, we are happy that our experience may end up assisting others who find themselves in the same predicament. Thanks for the support.

[@larrygray1557]

Glad to hear that LaMesa has it indoors during the storm or it may have had the ultimate water leakage test. Six hours since you posted the video and a lot has changed on the weather projection, and suspect your home may now be included in the outer edges of the cone rather than just outside it, and Port St Lucie is well within. I am in Orlando and for the past day it has been a beeline for Tampa/Orlando exiting south of New Smynra with later updates dropping to Cape. However, the 6:00 update had a significant drop south (Sarasota), and as I type this at 9:00 a smaller but continuing drop south where now appears entering Venice/Cape Coral and exiting Melbourne/Vero Beach. Hope everything turns out well. Be safe.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We should be OK down south, but it looks like La Mesa may be in for some pretty strong winds. We are counting our blessings and keeping our fingers crossed. Good luck to you and your family. We wish you well.

[@marsharodgers394]

My greatest concern for you guys is weather! A slight jog of the storm can affect you guys adversely at your home. The Coach comes after. Blessings to you both and all the others in the path of this storm. Be safe and be Blessed.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thank you. We do realize that our issues are very minor compared to what the folks in the path of these storms are going through. We pray for those affected and wish them the best of luck. Thanks for pointing this out. Be safe.

[@gypsymountaineers3215]

Oh, man! We are on Tiffin #4 in 17 years. We were so impressed with the three used Tiffins we took a leap and bought brand new in 2021. Lots of problems. We have gone to Red Bay with this unit 5 times for warranty work. HOWEVER we love Miss Corona. You are lucky La Mesa is doing you a solid. We didn’t trust our dealer as they didn’t fix the Swintek slide before delivery! We have had great service at Red Bay but not everyone can get there easily. Heck, it’s a haul from WV. I’ll be praying for your Wayfarer’s speedy repair. It’s good your dealer has great rapport with RB. If you ever go there, let us know if you need suggestions. Jim and Sue

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thank you for the well wishes and for sharing your story. We will definitely reach out if we decide to head to Red Bay at some point. Happy Travels!

[@jacquesmeyer41]

This sucks big time. Water is never a good thing in a house nor an RV. I am so happy that we decided to buy one without a slide out. It is tighter inside but the peace of mind to have one thing less to worry about was worth it. Hope you all do well with the storm.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

You make a string argument for the slideless RV. We hear that the one-piece fiberglass units are pretty watertight as well. Thanks for the well wishes.

[@sandydemars8100]

I'm wishing you guys all the best and hope that your repairs are done quickly!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thank you so much.

[@cherylhughes2988]

I'm at the point where I would buy only Coachman, Winnebago, or Grech, and I would have the Winnebago inspected. Hopefully, Noovo will turn out to reliable.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We're beginning to realize that nearly every manufacturer is going to have some issues. It's just that some seem to have more than others. We do recommend the inspection no matter which one you decide to get. Good luck.

[@sandydemars8100]

I notice your seatbelt right away, Rose! Glad to see it.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Safety First!

[@karenfrancis5572]

So sorry to hear about your Wayfarer woes. We bought our 2020 TW before Thor got involved. Hubby respects Greg and he's always been quick to help with our minor stuff. We miss the Winfield place and people, but we go to Red Bay for our service work all the way from VA! Good luck. I'm sorry you had to cancel fall camping plans. We're currently in NY area enjoying beautiful fall weather.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks, we really appreciate everything Greg is doing for us as well. We are so jealous you get to enjoy a beautiful New York Fall Season. Enjoy!!

[@maryanns4096]

Love you guys...stay safe. And get your money back...once a lemon, always a lemon.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks for the support. All we can say is that we're going to do what's necessary to find a resolution to this issue.

[@raoulroberts2024]

Praying for the best (you know the rest).👍🏾🤞🏾🙏🏾

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks.

[@SpykersB]

Ah geez 😒 guys, I know how u feel, n u got my empathy, u have every right to scream n shout. Super frustrating i know. 🤞🏼the hurricane is mild when it goes over u. I was watching ryan hall all day, n will be again tomorrow. 🙏🏼 the next rv step is good news 🤗. 🍻

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We appreciate the support. We're watching the storm closely. It looks like we are going to be OK down south, but it looks like Fort Myers and the west coast are in for another tough time. We're hoping the RV is safe, but that concern pales in comparison to what the people in the storm's path will be going through. We're hoping for the best outcome. Thanks.

[@SilverBullet9999]

As usual, great video guys. We have a 2024 Wayfarer RW (no slides). We had the exact same issue as you with the lights over the cab. They were all installed too tight and every single one of them had hairline cracks. We had literally a few drops in the cab and the Techs at LazyDays Tampa were smart enough to figure it out. Side question we bought a Jeep to pull (you were a big part of that) can you tell us your toad set up. We are researching it on the net, but there are so many options and I’d love to know what you guys bought and your experience with all of it. Thanks for the informative videos guys.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks for providing us with the information about the over-tightened lights. We will definitely speak to them about that. As far as the tow package, we went with the Blue Ox tow bar and the Patriot braking system. It was not cheap, but we heard good things about the quality, and we have been happy with it thus far. We plan in doing a video showing our tow set up as soon as we get our RV back. Stay tuned...

[@pamelareed5021]

Praying for you guys

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thank you. Be safe.

[@chipsrafferty8362]

Class B B B B B B B B..no slides no fuss no muss.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We definitely can't argue with your point. It was one of the reasons we went with the Class B for our first RV. Thanks.

[@bikeama]

As everyone has said Thor is bad news. I found so many problems with Thor product when I spent my first night at the dealership. Good thing I live in CA. Lemon law applies, you can sue in CA not Indiana. BIG think ,IF you have not driven out the the dealers lot you can get all your money back, which is what I did. Do you watch "Liz Amazing"?

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Yes, they seem to get more than their share of complaints. Thanks for posting the information about California laws. That's very helpful. We have seen Liz Amazing's videos, and we may reach out of it comes to that. However, we have found Tiffin to be very accommodating and responsive thus far. Thanks.

[@joniboulware1436]

I don't think I would have your patience. Had a 2009 Allegro Bus that gave us a few headaches but not structurally or from the basic way it was put together. I am not sure there are any manufacturers now that I would trust the product to not be a lemon.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Ha ha. We're not sure about the patience part. We do a lot of venting off screen, and you're only seeing the logical side of our approach to this problem. However, the optimism is real. Maybe it's the manufacturers that need to make lemonade out of these lemons. That would be nice.

[@mikestone7589]

This proves that even a new RV needs to be inspected by an independent inspector especially when the RV has slides.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We totally agree about the inspection. However, we are thinking this may be a design issue at this point. We are learning more about it every day.

[@ASummerPlaceConsignments]

Bummed for you 🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks. Bummed is definitely the right word here. We're hoping for a happy ending.

[@johnsandell4501]

Your experience is why we don't own an RV. Good luck, great repairs👍👍👍

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks 👍

[@mparism]

Sorry for all the inconvenience you guys have. Can you give us some advice to avoid the same problems that you guys experience. What will you do different?

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Many commenters are touting the pre-purchase inspection as a way to avoid a lot of issues, and we do recommend that. However, we're not convinced that these issues even existed when we left the dealership. The best advice we can give is to understand what problems you may potentially have, and mentally prepare for the possibility of a less that ideal experience. The most important thing is to do your research, and select the best RV for you with the most reliable track record. Lately, this is not an easy task, but it is definitely possible. Good Luck.

[@larrygray1557]

Addendum to the one below, not storm related. Watching with interest as will be buying, Tampa show at the latest. Wondering what to get wife for Christmas! Top 2 are Tiffin and Fleetwood/Holiday Rambler/Renegade twins. I was a bit surprised when you bought the Tiffin after your review of the Fleetwood at the Orlando show. I was there and agree with you on the sofa comfort as Tiffin and the REV Group twins are the only ones I find comfortable - and I told Matt about it which he noted in his review.

[@karinwest919]

@@larrygray1557 , you can always swap the sofa. There is a great Amish store in Shipshewana that makes very comfortable quality recliners for RVs. We had the couch swapped out in our last RV, a Class C Winnebago View.

[@larrygray1557]

@@karinwest919 True, and thanks...but should have specified not the freestanding sofa/recliner but the sofa position of a murphy bed unit. That would require a re-design and re-upholstery. If your View is the 24D will know what talking about with the rigid foam and aggressive, more upright, back angle impacting comfort. While that can be corrected, what ruled out the View (and Entegra/Jayco) was shrinking the bathroom width as they reduced Tiffin's 36" wide shower to 32" which also sets the bathroom wall width, causing knees to hit the wall when sitting on the toilet. Thor and the new Grand Design have adopted the Mercedes 4500 chassis which is a non-starter. It drops towing from 4220lbs in the 3500 chassis to 3150lbs in the 4500 - which most people don't know, and it certainly isn't in marketing material.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thank you for bring up the towing restrictions on the 4500 chassis. In our review of the new Grand Design Lineage, we forgot to point that out. That is a huge difference, and you won't find that information in the sales brochures. Good luck with you RV purchase. We will definitely be attending the Tampa show this, and if you see us please come say hi. Happy Travels!

[@stevemuise6315]

You should've made a appointment at red bay. It's the only way it'll be fixed and fixed right. That's what we had to do with our 25rw 2024 tiffin. We sold it when we got it back. Very poor quality.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We may still end up in Red Bay, but for now we are trusting in La Mesa to do the right thing. They have been excellent thus far. Thanks for the advice.

[@stevemuise6315]

We bought ours at North Trail rv in Fort Meyers. They too tried but the best outcome was taking it to Red Bay. I do feel so bad for you but really, think about it. Red bay is really not that far for you especially if your going to keep it. And the floor is not fiberglass.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Hmm, we are going to inquire about the floor. Thanks.

[@MonaZwilling]

I would be uncomfortable ever trusting that RV. All that money invested, and not able to enjoy it. I'm glad you are happy with your dealer, and their care of you... but I would want them to take it back, and replaced. This one sounds like a lemon. Good luck and stay safe.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

It certainly is an emotional roller coaster ride. We hope that one day we'll be able to look back at this whole experience and laugh (or at least chuckle). Thanks for the support.

[@debbiericketts8406]

I would be very upset too.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks, we appreciate the support.

[@michaellinder6705]

Did you have the RV inspected before you bought it?

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We did not, and we are pretty sure an inspection probably would not have revealed this issue. However, we do recommend an inspection prior to purchase whether buying new or used.

[@Chatterboxis007]

Did you get a independent RV inspector to inspect it before you bought it?

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We are reasonably sure the issues we have had occurred after purchase, but we definitely do recommend a pre-purchase inspection.

[@karinwest919]

What a bummer. Is a trade for another Patriot possible?

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Dan would be up for that plan, but we are really hoping for a successful resolution here. We love the floor plan and amenities in this Wayfarer.

[@karinwest919]

@@halffasttravelers2702 , I sure hope Tiffin will make it right for you and anyone else who has that kind of serious water intrusion because of their lagging quality control. Keeping fingers crossed!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks for the well wishes.

[@nomehdrider]

Just from my KZbin research, Tiffin isn't what it's hyped to be, perhaps in the past they were very customer centered.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Yes, their reputation took a huge hit since their acquisition by Thor. We have had some success with customer support, but we are skeptical if that is going to continue.

[@nomehdrider]

@halffasttravelers2702 wife would, she thinks, like an RV. I've never been very certain, I do like the Class A and B+ style. Driving and maintaining it would fall on me, I have some experience with online hypobole, it seems there is some fire with the smoke and they may not be that well engineered for actual use. My son bought a B a few years ago, Ram Winnebago, it has worked well for them but he did quite a bit of modification and there were some warranty issues. Tiffin was kind of a gold standard but alas it may be gold plated. Your videos are well done, and upbeat, really enjoy the format

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks. If you decide to go with an RV, we wish you good luck with your search.

[@davidew98]

it will never be right, you need a buyback ASAP! this thing is totaled! 3 failures and 3 months without product means lemon!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We are told the Lemon Law only applies to the chassis and does not include issues with the “house.”

[@davidew98]

@ seriously you need an attorney!!!!

[@thereserveteamsc]

Unfortunately you didn't get a 3rd party inspection, and you bought it because of Tiffin's previous reputation. Fix and Sell, if they don't buy back.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

While we do recommend an inspection prior to purchase, we are convinced the two issue we have probably occurred after we left the dealership. Having said that, all options are on the table.

[@DougErrett]

Lemon law ?

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Unfortunately, the Lemon Law in Florida only applies to the chassis, and not the "house."

[@hiflyer1825]

BUY BACK!!!!!!!! Water damage cannot be repaired!!!!!!!

[@halffasttravelers2702]

That option is on the table. Thanks.

[@theresejames8826]

With all your knowledge about rvs. why did y'all get a slide out? Slides leak water sooner or later. The water damage can destroy the floor of the whole RV.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

The bottom line is that we wanted the additional space that a slide provides, and we were hopeful that we would avoid the issues that plague many, but not all RV's with slides. If we had to do it over again, we would definitely strongly consider a unit without slides. We are happy that our floor is fiberglass, and less likely to rot or deform from the water.

[@lewisbale1]

We decided not to buy any rv considering how many people are trying to get these companies to buy back the RVs that are falling apart/they were damaged when it was delivered.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

That is a fair assessment based upon the videos that we have seen online. However, please keep in mind that there are many RV acquisitions that do not result in these disastrous outcomes. One of our previous commenters referred to an RV purchase as a "roll of the dice" that you will get a good one. This is true of any large purchase. Purchasers need to conduct a risk vs. reward assessment prior to making such a large investment. Thanks for your comment.

[@blueskyzify]

I’m glad I live in a state where it’s illegal for a driver to record on their iPhone WHILE DRIVING like a complete idiot.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We would certainly agree if the driver were the one holding the camera and filming. In this case we see it as no different than the driver having a conversation with the passengers. However, we do respect your opinion, but do ask that you keep your criticism constructive if possible. Thanks.

[@blueskyzify]

Because you’re an idiot. Do you hear yourself? There’s a reason why these laws are written in sensible states. You can’t even keep your eyes on the road. Watch your own video!

[@blueskyzify]

Listen, you can’t keep your eyes on the road. Look at your own video. Civil? Is it civil to cause an accident and possibly maim or injure someone else? I’m shaking my head at you being too self centered to pull over for a few minutes.

[@Esteban-du2we]

Milton will let you file an insurance claim, then you can start over again.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

It's funny you should mention this. We just heard a story about an insurance claim for a damaged RV that was denied because the owner had the opportunity to take it out of the area but did not. That's not good.

[@kqschwarz]

Tiffen needs to buy back your RV. The "loss of value" you have in your RV even after it is fixed is unbelievable. The repairs will be part of a CarFax report on your vehicle. There will be mold problems that will never go away. I suggest you get a lawyer and demand your money back. Once you do get your money back, I suggest you purchase a new RV WITHOUT slides.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

The buy-back option is something we would consider as a last resort. Your concern about slides is something we will definitely agree with. The slides seem to be a weak point in the design. Thanks.

[@DineroyvidaenLA]

You should lemon law it

[@halffasttravelers2702]

It's actually not as easy to Lemon Law an RV as you think. In many states, the Lemon Law only applies to the chassis, and not the "house."

[@sandydemars8100]

And. For us, we are in MT and arbitration HAS to take place where the unit was made, which would be Indiana. They don't make it easy at all! Looked into it for our Thor Tellaro

[@DineroyvidaenLA]

@@halffasttravelers2702 ouch! Did you guys have it inspected before taking deliver?

[@Mustlovedogscatstoo]

You guys are too nice. 1. If you had water coming in why would they leave the rig outside?!! 2. They tell you that they aren’t responsible for damages due to storm, yet they don’t inspect until you there. Why? 3. YOU SHOULD BE MAD AT LA MESA! You should be mad at the service department. You should be mad! They have had your RV for over a month and they haven’t done squat!!!! Your rig will never be the same! Water intrusion, as you say, is not GOOD! Mold is growing and it will never go away! Stop being so nice. Get a lawyer. I hate to be a Debbie Downer but you better cancel your February trip.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

You ask some great questions, and we'll be expecting those answers as we continue with this saga. We do believe that water intrusion can be mitigated if done correctly, and we will be ensuring that everything is done to our standards prior to our February trip. We do feel that directing anger at people who we believe are doing everything they can to assist us is a waste of energy. We're going to try to be positive and optimistic as long as we can. Thanks for the post.

[@Mustlovedogscatstoo]

@@halffasttravelers2702 I’m rooting for you both. I always enjoy your trips. You can still be nice but that eventually wears thin. I had to get somewhat pushy when we had our issues. My husband and I are retired LEO. Maybe one day our travels will cross. Wishing you all the luck 🍀 that you have all the issues resolved correctly. 🙏🙏🙏

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Dan is retired LEO as well, so he is very used to dealing with adversity and a variety of personalities. We are hoping the interactions and experiences don't reach a point where he will have to take a "less understanding" stance. So far though, we have been treated with respect and understanding so we have to be happy with that, for now. Thanks again.

[@Mustlovedogscatstoo]

@@halffasttravelers2702 for some reason I had an inclination that he was LEO. Tell him we thank him for his service. I really hope you have your issues resolved. Keep posting your videos.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks to you both as well. Happy Travels!!

[@janicecrockett1400]

I don’t trust the quality of Thor period.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Thanks

[@horizon42q]

It’s Thor. Terrible.

[@halffasttravelers2702]

We hear you.

[@Jayneespinoza-i4u]

My gosh this is not good

[@halffasttravelers2702]

Yes, we were very disappointed at this point. It does get better though.

[@TOLOW1962]

Good Luck 6mth to a YR to get it fixed , check the the time stamps when stuff came in , sorry to many BAD stories like yurs , TALK IS CHEAP, did you get those VALIUMS , goodluck in storm , we are in daytona

[@halffasttravelers2702]

No Valiums yet, but we are probably going to need them before all this is over. We hope you make it through the storm without damage. Fingers crossed.