SF6 Master Rank Stats! Which Characters are the Most & Least Represented!?

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@Rooflemonger
@Rooflemonger Жыл бұрын
So in a bit of a followup to the general character popularity stats video(linked in the end and in vid description), lets dig deeper into the Master Rank stats! Its the top dog rank in the game, and the numbers don't exactly line up with the overall character popularity, which is very telling on which characters are stronger than the others, or just straight up plain easier to use! JP? Despite being in the bottom half of character popularity he is the single most represented character in Master rank! What does that mean?
@DaisyEdwards-md7jl
@DaisyEdwards-md7jl Жыл бұрын
Couldn't it also mean that because a character is less popular people are more unfamiliar with the match up. Something that is especially favorable on someone like JP who has a lot of knowledge checks.
@Bladieblah
@Bladieblah Жыл бұрын
You said the opposite for Dhalsim though. Dhalsim also has low representation but a lot of master players but in that case you interpreted it as the few Dhalsim players being very skilled rather than Dhalsim being easy to play. There are signs JP is easy to play (non statistical ones) so it makes sense to a degree but it doesn't seem to be the pure statistics that drive your judgement here
@DouglasBurton
@DouglasBurton Жыл бұрын
I think the Matser ranks mostly show how fast can you overwhelm the opponent before they figure out how to counter your playstyle. To me that mastery list fits what I've felt in ranked play. Some characters, like Ken and JP, just have more variety of ways to rush down an opponent before they can adapt. Gief is great but he can only come at you in so many ways and can't switch his style up too much, so everyone can use the same tactics to avoid getting beaten.
@ThatGuyCalledSteeve
@ThatGuyCalledSteeve Жыл бұрын
Also fun to note that Mister Crimson has the highest lp of any player and is the first person to reach 100k lp while playing Dhalsim
@Rooflemonger
@Rooflemonger Жыл бұрын
I did notice that while looking at the Dhalsim stats lol. He's well beyond everyone else
@heroicsquirrel3195
@heroicsquirrel3195 Жыл бұрын
Its crazy, dhalsim is hard af to play imo
@heroicsquirrel3195
@heroicsquirrel3195 Жыл бұрын
He must sit at home allday grinding 😂
@bushinryu13th13
@bushinryu13th13 Жыл бұрын
Allez la France 🇫🇷 On est là !
@susanw1863
@susanw1863 Жыл бұрын
@@heroicsquirrel3195I am sure he played Sim in SF5 so it should not be that hard or long to figure him out in SF6.
@ForEducationalPurposesOnly
@ForEducationalPurposesOnly Жыл бұрын
I think part of it is match up knowledge. Less played characters present more of an unknown when it comes to frames, proper punishes for you, what they can punish you with.
@silveriver9
@silveriver9 Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@Johnny.Dollar
@Johnny.Dollar Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I actually think this is the most street fighter thing about street fighter.
@phdbot4483
@phdbot4483 Жыл бұрын
The Master rank Zangief, Lily, and Dhalsim players are few and far between. I commend the few who can make it as far as they did, as while they can easily break inexperienced players, it's not easy for them to take games off of more skilled players.
@DuppyBoii187
@DuppyBoii187 Жыл бұрын
It's funny that none of the top Lily or Sim players think they're weak, but everybody else won't stop calling them weak.
@lamarque2820
@lamarque2820 Жыл бұрын
@@DuppyBoii187probably cuz they’re MASTERS
@blackspade36
@blackspade36 Жыл бұрын
I just hit masters with sim on my channel he is not weak. I think he is strong.
@riansillett2771
@riansillett2771 Жыл бұрын
The highest lp player is a Dhalsim lol
@riansillett2771
@riansillett2771 Жыл бұрын
​@@DuppyBoii187they aint weak they just not popular. Dhalsim is one of the strongest characters when used properly
@Smileyhat
@Smileyhat Жыл бұрын
Based on the stats listed in the previous video and this one, I've worked out the percentage of players for each character who have made it into master rank so far. The top 5 are: JP - 1.79% Dhalsim - 1.40% Blanka - 1.25% Honda - 1.16% Dee Jay - 1.14% The bottom 5 are: Zangief - 0.29% Ryu - 0.38% Jamie - 0.56% Ken - 0.56% Cammy - 0.59% Of course this data's probably going to shift over time but it's still interesting to think of why the results turn out this way.
@user-et3xn2jm1u
@user-et3xn2jm1u Жыл бұрын
What's interesting with Cammy is that she's the most popular at the very bottom and top but gets a lot less popular in the middle. If you cut out Rookie and Bronze she drops to the middle of the pack below masters iirc.
@dectilon
@dectilon Жыл бұрын
I can imagine that characters like Deejay also enjoy a bit more popularity with strong legacy players. He seems like he has a lot of growth potential.
@evalangley3985
@evalangley3985 Жыл бұрын
Deejay was NEVER a popular character...
@user-et3xn2jm1u
@user-et3xn2jm1u Жыл бұрын
True, but it makes you wonder why Chun Li isn't higher up. She also seems like she will only get stronger, but she's unpopular at low and high ranks.
@ubergamer2010
@ubergamer2010 Жыл бұрын
​@@user-et3xn2jm1ushe's good but her normal game can be very awkward. Her standing MK is very limited in its use which is particularly frustrating for me
@Rooflemonger
@Rooflemonger Жыл бұрын
A few people asked me to compile the master rank numbers after the original char popularity vid so, why not!? If you never saw that video its linked in the video description and I highly suggest checking that out as well. Also respect to Dhalsim players as they may show up in small numbers, but they have the proportionately highest representation in Master Rank, so I think thats a very fun story to tell!
@steverobertson6393
@steverobertson6393 Жыл бұрын
Dude, I love your work. I subscribed (of course!) but gotta thank you for what you do. Idea: Divide the number of players by the Master Rank number. It will provide data for that sense of "Who is actually strong" You hinted at it with your idea about Dhalsim (how there aren't many, but the few are strong) Feel free to delete this message and take credit whole cloth. I love ya man!
@GatorOfWar
@GatorOfWar Жыл бұрын
I'm enjoying these stat breakdowns. Keep em coming boss! I want to get my Zangief into Masters, but it's easier said than done lol
@FrankenSteinsGate
@FrankenSteinsGate Жыл бұрын
So out of curiosity, I wanted to see what percentage of players for each character managed to reach Master rank with that character, so just a simple #Master/#Total, and this is what I came up with: JP (1.78%) Dhalsim (1.40%) Blanka (1.25%) Honda (1.16%) Dee Jay (1.14%) Juri (1.11%) Kimberly (0.92%) Guile (0.78%) Luke (0.76%) Chun Li (0.72%) Manon (0.64%) Lily (0.63%) Marisa (0.61%) Cammy (0.59%) Ken (0.56%) Jamie (0.56%) Ryu (0.39%) Zangief (0.29%) There's a few things you can takeaway from this is, but the main thing is that Zangief truly is the hardest character to play and needs buffs, so get on that Capcom.
@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz Жыл бұрын
Excellent conclusion, I agree
@AllFlashNoDash
@AllFlashNoDash Жыл бұрын
I like the breakdown. So less than 1.5% for each character. I wouldn't call for buffs yet. Way too early. Snake Eyez is washing people with Gief. I know he's a pro, but maybe it ties more skills utilize his tool set. I've played some damn good Giefs at the Diamond level.
@pygmalioninvenus6057
@pygmalioninvenus6057 Жыл бұрын
Zangief is not the hardest to play by any stretch. He just has really bad match ups.
@variousthings6470
@variousthings6470 Жыл бұрын
Shout-out to Haitani, who has apparently just become the first player to reach Master rank with every character in the game. I think Capcom should recognise this by announcing that Makoto (Haitani's character of choice in SF3 and 4) will be added to the game as the next DLC character!
@ens0246
@ens0246 Жыл бұрын
Can't argue with that logic 😂
@steverobertson6393
@steverobertson6393 Жыл бұрын
Love this! The more Capcom recognizes and acknowledges us (dedicated players and fan base) the more we will feel recognized and love them back. Great thinking!
@GELTONZ
@GELTONZ Жыл бұрын
I concur! ...based entirely on the fact that Makoto should be in the game regardless.
@steverobertson6393
@steverobertson6393 Жыл бұрын
@@GELTONZ I should said this earlier: I feel like you can't have Makoto without Ibuki. Makoto could run a successful chain of dojos in her story and Ibuki could be graduated into full-time adult ninja. What do ya think?
@shawnr8438
@shawnr8438 Жыл бұрын
I agree with statement. Ibuki too please
@Buzerio
@Buzerio Жыл бұрын
I think with Deejay, JP, Dhalsim, maybe even Honda to an extent, newer players are less likely to pick those characters. Charge characters and characters who are perceived as difficult to play are usually less popular with newer players. I also think with Ryu being less popular, a lot of high level Ryu players probably switched to Ken or Luke because of the similar playstyle and the general perception that they're stronger characters
@CrossUpCoalition
@CrossUpCoalition Жыл бұрын
Love these analytics videos Rooflemonger, doesn't seem like anyone else is really doing videos like this.
@cloudair4154
@cloudair4154 Жыл бұрын
yeah these are cool.. i guess these stats are how capcom tweaks things.. i don't know how they tweaked things pre-internet online play tho
@NessOnett8
@NessOnett8 Жыл бұрын
Recently someone did a similar comparative analysis of actual "usage" at Master rank. And found a very different tale. That is to say looking at the matches in Masters and who is actually being played. They found that JP, despite having the most Master Ranked players was in 5th. Which means that, seemingly, people got JP to Masters and then stopped playing him. Likely switching to a different character. Or the JP players just play less than the players of other characters(which seems like a weird conclusion, but it's technically a possibility). regardless, You're only likely to fight a JP in about 7.5% of your Master matches, despite him making up over 10% of the number of Master players. Kimberly on flipside was the 3rd most likely to be seen in Masters. Despite being nowhere near 3rd for overall numbers. So maybe people switching TO Kimberly or whatever the reasoning. I just thought that was interesting.
@casadocaralysson67
@casadocaralysson67 Жыл бұрын
Wait, did I understood this correctly? There's only 6340 players in Master rank across all platforms and regions?
@Rooflemonger
@Rooflemonger Жыл бұрын
Some people have multiple characters at master so its not quite exactly that many players in the end, but roughly, yeah.
@casadocaralysson67
@casadocaralysson67 Жыл бұрын
@@Rooflemonger damn, that's true... Now I want to reach Master even more haha
@DShawnPaytonOffiicial
@DShawnPaytonOffiicial Жыл бұрын
Characters that can move lightning quick and or can fill up the screen with projectiles and other crap being on top, it makes sense to me. Playing Zangief in this game is fun, so even if I get stuck in low ranks I'll be fine with it, as long as I can pretend I'm Itazan or Snake Eyez and pull off some amazing comebacks from time to time!
@steverobertson6393
@steverobertson6393 Жыл бұрын
I love your thinking. As a Marisa main, I can't claim to be in a similar situation, but I love where your head is at. STRONG! Oh, see what I did there?! That's Zangief's whole raizon d'etre (reason for being). Strength! You ARE Zangief! (As much as I can we can be, unless you're also a giant Russian- cool either way, man)
@pygmalioninvenus6057
@pygmalioninvenus6057 Жыл бұрын
Not true. Guile is represented quite poorly in Master and he fills up the screen with projectiles very well.
@DShawnPaytonOffiicial
@DShawnPaytonOffiicial Жыл бұрын
@@pygmalioninvenus6057 Guile is the exception, not the rule. People who play Guile are built different, in it for the long haul. I expect to see Guile representatives in Master rank soon enough.
@OG-Macho
@OG-Macho Жыл бұрын
Loving these stats based numbers btw
@casadocaralysson67
@casadocaralysson67 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious if we can get the data about the controller types used to reach Master Rank. How many players got it using mostly Modern controls for each character, but is probably not easy to track that
@Rooflemonger
@Rooflemonger Жыл бұрын
Theres only 1 modern master player I can think of offhand, they use Marisa. The higher up the ranks you go the less you will see modern.
@SuperSwineGod2MaximumOverSwine
@SuperSwineGod2MaximumOverSwine Жыл бұрын
Personally I really don't like how the game feels on a controller at least on NRS games it can work but I still perfer an arcade stick. This is from the whole 4 Face buttons and 6 inputs issue with controllers. So modern feels way better on a controller to me, I just wish there was a way to have 4 inputs without losing access to parts of a characters kit. Like don't get me wrong I like the option to have one button supers and specials but I'd love to have a hybrid mode that uses 4 inputs but still has you do the motions and input the combos properly instead of holding a trigger. Would be nice for using a controller imo anyways. Edit: I know you can still use the real motions/inputs in modern. I want a mode that forces it. I think it would also be a decent intermediate step for someone trying to switch from modern to classic.
@OhNoTheFace
@OhNoTheFace Жыл бұрын
Very few master rank players are going to lose options to do inputs easier. They know how to do inputs, and can read people fast enough to do them in time
@lostcauses5421
@lostcauses5421 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperSwineGod2MaximumOverSwine losing normals is one of the trade offs of modern. that is how they balanced it. you get easier combos, specials, and supers, and lose some normals and some damage. that is the trade, so take it or leave it.
@xXxGodThanatosxXx
@xXxGodThanatosxXx Жыл бұрын
as a modern player the damage nerf is making a huge difference
@XtremeDragon03
@XtremeDragon03 Жыл бұрын
With all your list I had an idea for one or two more list and that would be: how many modern controls players has every character and how many modern controls are in master rank. I am not a big fan of the modern controls but it would be very interesting to see what character benefits the most from these controls :)
@steverobertson6393
@steverobertson6393 Жыл бұрын
AH! Good one! Modern Controls! Ha ha. My Zangief is modern controls (like that Mighty Keef video). I have no shame because my Marisa (Classic) is way way stronger. I just enjoy being Zangief because he's my favorite character by far!
@rainbowkrampus
@rainbowkrampus Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see popularity contrasted with character win rate. Are Master ranked players sleeping on a beast? Are they buying into hype over what looks like a good toolkit on paper? Do our expectations simply align with reality? Not sure we have such data. But that would be an informative route for rooflestatmonger to go should it become available.
@battlericky17
@battlericky17 Жыл бұрын
Platinum 1 Blanka here, to let everyone know they are bad for using the following: Ken, Jp, Ryu, The rest of the roster, Blanka (if it isnt me) Sincerely, a very selfish blanka main
@NiceIntelligentGamers
@NiceIntelligentGamers Жыл бұрын
Its crazy being a part of the stats for the first time. Shoutout to Manon for giving me the FREE Master rank
@steverobertson6393
@steverobertson6393 Жыл бұрын
Well done dude (or lady). You're living my dream. I wanna be among the 420 (okay, I was close with that guess) who are Master Marisa. Oooooooh, I like the sound of that! Now I'm even more jealous of your success! Gotta play, but I need to watch this dog.
@JoeyCentral
@JoeyCentral Жыл бұрын
@@LJAndrews1986yeah no kidding dude. My poor Chun Li was getting her ass thrown all night last night by Manon players constantly throwing.
@AzureBarrage
@AzureBarrage Жыл бұрын
I think JP just has a legitimately high skill cap that strong players can make full use of. The difference between one that doesn't even know the difference between his fireballs and one that can convert into a fullscreen lvl 3 off any hit confirm is night and day. However, he also has a lot of tools to cheese it out and you only need to know maybe 3 or 4 combos to be set. The drive rush system is certainly a large part of what keeps him in check, but he's very possible to adapt to and Kimberly/Cammy can wipe the floor with him.
@mattyryon
@mattyryon Жыл бұрын
Any JP can confirm his level 3 full screen, even in Iron lol. Literally just spike > level 3
@lostcauses5421
@lostcauses5421 Жыл бұрын
JP has some of the most polarizing matchups. He either wins super hard or loses hard. Only a guess, but I would say part of the reason he's highly represented cause there are more characters he beats than characters who beat him, and it's very, VERY hard for certain characters (Zangief, Marisa) to even touch a JP, let alone win.
@Voxirius
@Voxirius Жыл бұрын
Cadence of your voice is quite pleasant and it makes your commentary a joy to listen to. New to the game and been learning a lot from you, thanks.
@Rooflemonger
@Rooflemonger Жыл бұрын
Happy you enjoy the videos
@Perk30kp
@Perk30kp Жыл бұрын
Beautiful morning when roof drops !
@ggtonic
@ggtonic Жыл бұрын
It's videos like this that make this channel unique. I can't think of any other channel on KZbin that breaks down FGC stats quite like this!
@steverobertson6393
@steverobertson6393 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Rooflemonger makes the videos were are all thinking about but haven't yet formed the idea completely or voiced outloud. He's in our minds, man!
@KungFoo1
@KungFoo1 Жыл бұрын
Cmon Rooflemonger, we needed a master rank character list adjusted for character representation so we know who’s THE BEST. Or rather who’s being played the best within the ranked system at the moment , for which there will be many factors 😊 thanks for the video!
@jumex7
@jumex7 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos but the comments about strength and ease to play and win with are a bit contradictory and it's like you're just choosing to say whether a character is seen in master rank because of their strength or how easy they are to play subjectively. You say JP is the most popular master rank character not necessarily because of character strength but because he is easy to win with. But then shortly afterwards you say Dee Jay is higher represented than more popular characters in master rank because of his strength. And then the rest of the video I'm just confused, what is subjective and what isn't anymore?
@Bladieblah
@Bladieblah Жыл бұрын
Easy to win with and being strong is the same thing here. Roof was basically just saying people are sleeping on JP, Deejay is more popular so he's not slept on, he's just doing well as one of the better characters The real contradiction is Dhalsim/JP, both have low popularity but high master representation but in Dhalsims case he said this was a sign of Dhalsim players being very skilled, in JP case he blamed it on the character being strong
@Detective332
@Detective332 Жыл бұрын
Sweet, this is the first time I’ve been included in these stats.
@aotd283
@aotd283 Жыл бұрын
To determine that a character is carrying its players to Master you would have to look at the percentage of that individual characters Master players versus a breakdown of representation of that character in other ranks. You cannot just compare percentage of individual character’s Master percentage versus representation within the roster at large.
@tundrabancho7207
@tundrabancho7207 Жыл бұрын
Deejay or JP player detected
@Rooflemonger
@Rooflemonger Жыл бұрын
I absolutely can compare % of individual master character ranks vs representation at large. Its actually very good and telling.
@AceAddashiro
@AceAddashiro Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the awesome video ✊🏾✊🏾
@ens0246
@ens0246 Жыл бұрын
I just realised I've never seen JP's Critical Art as I've rarely got him down to that much health that far into a match 😂
@chopcheesekim
@chopcheesekim Жыл бұрын
i know this question doesn’t havtto do with the video but is there any way to change the name of my club club ive looked on every corner of the internet and cant seem to find anything
@ToruKurosawa
@ToruKurosawa Жыл бұрын
I main Guile, Sim and sometimes play Blanka.... fighting the good fight!
@helmichael
@helmichael Жыл бұрын
I reached Masters with Manon today and fighting endless Kens and JP's was tough and had to take breaks in between to cool my brain lol I started with Ken when i first started and he is hella fun to play with and I hope to play with Aki soon.
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one Жыл бұрын
Buried? Blown away? Ashed? Or... "...In ruins."
@valsione38
@valsione38 Жыл бұрын
I achieved master rank with zangief like 3 days ago and I can tell you it was frustrating yet very rewarding, I think gief continues to be the same as the old days, relying on heavy matchup knowledge to win, I can tell for sure the biggest enemy of people trying to rank up with these characters is accusing others of being "carried", youre using these characters for a reason and you must take that responsibility and the consequences behind it.
@realhectorcastillo
@realhectorcastillo Жыл бұрын
Diamond 4 Gief here. The diamond 4/5 wall is rough but ive wiped the floor with a few masters so i should be there soon. Kimberly just smacks my bum so hard strangely. I think i need to use heavy punch for armored footsies trades more and i NEED to parry more
@King-yj2jx
@King-yj2jx Жыл бұрын
This is a very good thing, all characters are damn near equally represented. I think a lot of this has to do with the drive system, it really makes a lot of match ups manageable and allows players to play who they want without sacrificing a lot
@somecleverthing
@somecleverthing Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video listing the percentage of players who are in Master for each character? So, 24% or Dhalsims are in Master, and only 8% of Zangiefs, or whatever.
@Jamal-wk6fy
@Jamal-wk6fy Жыл бұрын
Character types should also be considered in this conversation. For example newer players will not enjoy charge characters due to not only having to learn the game but also learning the charge mechanic. Another good example is new players and veterans tend to not enjoy Rekka characters. Jamie being a Rekka character will immediately turn people away due to the high skill ceiling it takes to get good with Rekka characters.
@gregbridge
@gregbridge Жыл бұрын
How did you pull up all this data for compiling and looking at each rank? I think Capcom used to post the stats on their website for 5 and I hope they do for 6
@Rooflemonger
@Rooflemonger Жыл бұрын
just go through the new not-CFN on the street fighter website and I manually pulled the stats
@LogLineX
@LogLineX Жыл бұрын
I think Mr. Crimson's Sim was the first character to reach one hundred thousand LP
@blusaphire910
@blusaphire910 Жыл бұрын
Because I really like math, I also compiled the data for the percentage of that character in Master. Characters in master/Overall played characters Blanka - 1.25% Cammy - 0.59% Chun-Li - 0.72% Dee Jay - 1.14% Dhalsim - 1.40% Guile - 0.76% Honda - 1.16% Jamie - 0.56% JP - 1.78% Juri - 0.61% Ken - 0.56% Kimberly - 0.92% Lily - 0.63% Luke - 0.79% Manon - 0.64% Marisa - 0.61% Ryu - 0.34% Zangief 0.29% MEAN OF DATA - 0.82%
@quixodeath8879
@quixodeath8879 Жыл бұрын
pretty much matches what i thought already as a plat player
@unluckyx
@unluckyx Жыл бұрын
Why don’t you sort your bar charts from most played to least played or vice versa? It would be easier to read the charts and appreciate the differences between characters.
@cloudair4154
@cloudair4154 Жыл бұрын
im happy gief is low in master.. hopefully that means he won't be nerfed.. i've been a gief main since like 2010 or so
@MidwestArtMan
@MidwestArtMan Жыл бұрын
High Master usage and low overall usage says to me: hard to start, but high skill ceiling.
@danzixx6
@danzixx6 Жыл бұрын
I havemy fun with zangief but algo I want to try. Jp I been playing woth marisa and mano
@TheNitrop
@TheNitrop Жыл бұрын
I think there are different ways to look at this chart: JP is the top of Masters due to be OP? Maybe, or maybe is a character that appeals more to highly competitive players due to his complexity over characters like Ken and Ryu. Same for a character like Dhalsim. Not many people would approach Dhalsim casually, but those who play him are usually hard core, long time Dhalsim appreciators! There are different angles to look at this :) Also, I'd be super interested to see the regional charts for this!
@OhNoTheFace
@OhNoTheFace Жыл бұрын
JP complex. Oh, you are funny
@TheNitrop
@TheNitrop Жыл бұрын
@@OhNoTheFace Well... I'd say is more complex than a Ryu or Ken. I tried giving him a try and doesn't look easy peasy from a newby point of view, at all! (I'm a newby)
@DeepFriedOddish
@DeepFriedOddish Жыл бұрын
Very well said! The data itself is unbiased, but the interpretation of said data can vary wildly between people.
@luvsik7
@luvsik7 Жыл бұрын
proud to represent Marisa
@El-Burrito
@El-Burrito Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised how few Guiles there are. Considering a lot of people consider him potentially the best character in the game, he's widely underplayed
@jamgUNoh
@jamgUNoh Жыл бұрын
He's boring
@xXxGodThanatosxXx
@xXxGodThanatosxXx Жыл бұрын
deejay is guile, but better
@casadocaralysson67
@casadocaralysson67 Жыл бұрын
oh I'm early, good morning
@Rooflemonger
@Rooflemonger Жыл бұрын
late night for me lol. I only ever upload at this time if I never went to bed yet
@casadocaralysson67
@casadocaralysson67 Жыл бұрын
Oh it's like almost 9am in Brazil haha Hope you can a good rest, @rooflemonger
@nelomalkevain4129
@nelomalkevain4129 Жыл бұрын
JP SWEEP. I all seriousness I fully expected JP to be the number 1 on this list. Playing on ranked I normaly placed in Gold but with JP i got carried to Platinum and thats because people have no idea how to deal with him, in fact now that I look at the rest of the stats I say the majority of character at the top are the ones that either are all arround strong (Ken, Luke, Juri..) or that are super confusing to deal with (Deejay, Marisa, JP...) . Makes sense it has only been a month roughly.
@pockystyx4087
@pockystyx4087 Жыл бұрын
From what i’ve heard; if you run into a Dhalsim in diamond or master rank; you should be afraid lol
@ElectricNikkiGames
@ElectricNikkiGames Жыл бұрын
i've been saying from the start that theres no way dhalsim is a bad character, just that it takes a certain type of player to play him effectively. Most likely the majority of sim players have been sim players for a very long time through many different iterations of street fighter and are married to the character. You can't teach the type of fundamentals those players have developed, that only comes with lots of experience. So for those players all they really had to do was learn and apply SF6's mechanics to the character and then they were off to the races.
@pro_killdroid
@pro_killdroid Жыл бұрын
My Goat
@ubergamer2010
@ubergamer2010 Жыл бұрын
Trying to grind to Master Manon but I have a lot to learn. This video was so insightful and some characters really are that strong!
@ubergamer2010
@ubergamer2010 Жыл бұрын
@@LJAndrews1986 girl... People have projectile spam I can't do that
@pikapac2281
@pikapac2281 Жыл бұрын
I dont think its a character thing for most of these like geif may not be bad cause mannon is probably the better grappler so top grappler players are useing her instead of geif but the people who would be lower as any characters just play him cause they find him fun
@boateye
@boateye Жыл бұрын
I think that the over represented characters in master rank could point to a few things. For newer characters, like JP, they probably highlight how low their skill floor is, combined with people not knowing the counter play for them yet. The game is still not even a month old. Ken, Cammy, and juri are hugely popular legacy characters so their placements make sense here. It's just a numbers game, and those characters are pretty strong too. I didn't play much DJ in 4, but from what I can tell, he's a very different character in SF 6. So, he is somewhere between someone with legacy strength like Ken and Cammy but also has a boost like JP from him being, effectively, a new character which folks need to learn how to counterplay. I know I struggle against him!
@Mene0
@Mene0 Жыл бұрын
Dhalsim also has the highest ranked player overall, at least at present
@DengusK
@DengusK Жыл бұрын
It's pretty funny that JP gets complained about nonstop while Ken, Cammy, and Juri are just behind him in that chart and those three have a much higher tournament representation. Not saying anyone needs nerfs, it's just funny how large the blinders are on the month 1 balance warriors.
@shadowofthenorthstar989
@shadowofthenorthstar989 Жыл бұрын
that cause unlike the other JP is a very powerful zoner most ppl suck against Zoners
@sladevalen
@sladevalen Жыл бұрын
People below diamond refuse to lab against other characters. This is why they complain about JP. Once you learn how all his tools interact with your character he isn't nearly as bad as comment sections make him out to be.
@LethalShadow
@LethalShadow Жыл бұрын
To play devil's advocate, sometimes it's not just about the numbers, but how those numbers are achieved. Losing against JP may simply be less fun or more annoying than losing against others. Similar to how grapplers get so much hate. As just a viewer, I certainly root against JP every single time I see him in any tournament. I just find him boring AF to watch compared to others.
@OhNoTheFace
@OhNoTheFace Жыл бұрын
It's like one is a shitty keepaway character that belongs in an NRS game, or something :O
@DengusK
@DengusK Жыл бұрын
@@OhNoTheFace Don't worry. You'll lab him someday.
@SteamMonkeyPlays
@SteamMonkeyPlays Жыл бұрын
that total if you add em all up feels so low... I thought this game was killing it but that feels like a really low number even for master rank.
@EastLaneDonte
@EastLaneDonte Жыл бұрын
I must become the Ken that tips the scale! Lol
@XanYT
@XanYT Жыл бұрын
omg, someone link this video to LTG, lol
@HageanFQ
@HageanFQ Жыл бұрын
I hope to one day reach a master rank Zangief, but for now my goal is diamond
@lesleylindsay7871
@lesleylindsay7871 Жыл бұрын
leave DeeJay alone... he needs it😭🧐
@nomsi4263
@nomsi4263 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Guile and Juri aren't higher. Especially Juri. With the number of clubs made just for bloody feet.
@soarinduscai
@soarinduscai Жыл бұрын
JP just has so much swag, I definitely get the appeal and he does great damage
@lostcauses5421
@lostcauses5421 Жыл бұрын
aesthetically yes. gameplay wise i have to disagree lmao.
@JoeyCentral
@JoeyCentral Жыл бұрын
Isn’t he just like M.Bison?
@Viviantoga
@Viviantoga Жыл бұрын
If Dee Jay wasn't going to be the one with 420 players, I argue that Juri is the proper second most-appropriate.
@Xengard
@Xengard Жыл бұрын
i dont know about dee jay being top tier. he is easy to win with, like JP, but thats because just like JP, he is not as popular and people dont lab the matchup as much. that being said, maybe he is top tier, but a lot of djs being in master doesnt mean its true 100%. it is some evidence, but its not all that there is to it. one tip about battling dj, he has a lot of normals that are not special cancelable. that means that he is very suceptible to being drive impacted!
@tango072013
@tango072013 Жыл бұрын
I'm sendin this video to Low Tier God😅. Can't argue with facts! Lol
@erichan7926
@erichan7926 Жыл бұрын
If LTG cares even slightly about the fact, he wouldn't even be streaming or playing. You know he only gives "2%" about the fact.
@shadowofthenorthstar989
@shadowofthenorthstar989 Жыл бұрын
lmao
@s13tunerz53
@s13tunerz53 Жыл бұрын
Zangief is fun in this game.
@WrathMilten
@WrathMilten Жыл бұрын
I feel with some it might not be so much their just better, but more so harder to fight, and thats why they're easier to win with. Jp is a brand new fucked up zoner, it'll take a while for people to figure out how to foght him.
@ericdavis9210
@ericdavis9210 Жыл бұрын
As a sim main, thanks lol.
@ThePrototype047
@ThePrototype047 Жыл бұрын
I'm honestly amazed at how similar the numbers are at master rank. I think that's a pretty high testament to the balance.
@pygmalioninvenus6057
@pygmalioninvenus6057 Жыл бұрын
The game is not balanced 😂
@ThePrototype047
@ThePrototype047 Жыл бұрын
@@pygmalioninvenus6057 we have very different understandings of balance.
@FlyingFoxDK1
@FlyingFoxDK1 Жыл бұрын
JP is not S guys you just need to lab him. /S
@sladevalen
@sladevalen Жыл бұрын
JP makes sense to have that many in masters since he is a perfect example of a knowledge check character. You can do well against him with most of the cast, but you have to know all the tricks and how to bypass them or else you will get smashed. In ranks below diamond however noone is going to lab against him so he gets away with murder online.
@DrSwazz
@DrSwazz Жыл бұрын
This is true at maybe diamond and above. Most people are not labbing against JP below that, as was said
@OhNoTheFace
@OhNoTheFace Жыл бұрын
That is always a funny way to say he is a faceroll that you can play around if you are patient
@krissrock
@krissrock Жыл бұрын
i think capcom mgiht say "mission accomplished" with Gief being popular but ppl struggle to win/rank up/master him... i think unfortunately, that's exactly what they want, cuz it's just SFV all over again.
@N1k0SP
@N1k0SP Жыл бұрын
i had a dream that Tremor was an Australian guy named Rocky, that there was a 1 in four fighter, and that Deadpool was in the game and has the most potential of being broke as fuk using his fingers. MK1 is gomma be WEIRD
@GurtGobain
@GurtGobain Жыл бұрын
It's a good day whenever we get to hear "HELLLLLLLL OOOOO AAANDDD WELCOMEEEEE" 😊 Rooflemonger commentator DLC when ❤
@PIMPimitsu
@PIMPimitsu Жыл бұрын
Man, Sim got a lot of buffs. So many fires and flames, let's not get into EX moves . Varied supers... Charge super.. Anti air level 3 super. Easy floats and teleports.
@extremebroly4146
@extremebroly4146 Жыл бұрын
As a master sim all i will say is you got it 100% backwards. He is not half as strong as he was in 5 and now add all the new rushdown heavy mechanics sf6 has. Not going to keep playing him so thats not me protecting my main since he isnt my main.
@PIMPimitsu
@PIMPimitsu Жыл бұрын
@@extremebroly4146 ok, I can take that point. The new rushdown hurts him. But he does have a lot more tools. A balance patch will help, but we need a few more months to cook
@extremebroly4146
@extremebroly4146 Жыл бұрын
@@PIMPimitsu id rather have half the tools for them to be actually viable. But yea we need to see what balance patch brings
@Belbaisy
@Belbaisy Жыл бұрын
@heroicsquirrel3195
@heroicsquirrel3195 Жыл бұрын
I just wanna get my main deejay to diamond at least, master feels completely unattainable for me, im 34 years old, my fingers and wrists are tired and im only plat 1😂
@gillgillgillgillgill
@gillgillgillgillgill Жыл бұрын
DeeJay is probably the most powerful base roster character ive played in a fighting game and almost 3 weeks in he still feels like a well-kept secret...never get mirror matches, beyond Kizzie and HSM he isnt in tourny top 16s...when are people going to wake up to da music baybee?!
@xXxGodThanatosxXx
@xXxGodThanatosxXx Жыл бұрын
i agree with you, he has everything in his kit and his drive rush is the best too
@theyobby
@theyobby Жыл бұрын
imagine if ltg watched this video
@bamb00zld
@bamb00zld Жыл бұрын
Kimberly has a lot of potential. This guy from my local tourneys perfect KO'd me multiple times today. Now I'm Silver at best, but...she has better rushdown than Cammy imo, and Cammy has been my main since 4. Also, that bar graph you showed is way more helpful and informative than the pie chart....
@pygmalioninvenus6057
@pygmalioninvenus6057 Жыл бұрын
Kimberly is trash
@exiaR2x78
@exiaR2x78 Жыл бұрын
I saw the memes that you pick JP your automatically in master rank hahaha
@cloudair4154
@cloudair4154 Жыл бұрын
personally i would like to see all cool characters one day.. i guess its a pipe dream but a game with just hip, stylish people.. e honda is uncool (especially his voice lol), dhalsim is uncool, oro is uncool... i'd like to see an all cool people cast.. sort of like when u see some anime movies and everyone is likeable.. just people who are hip, fun, and modern, like kimberly, sean, sakura, (bring back hinata from rival schools) etc
@remyd8767
@remyd8767 Жыл бұрын
You sound like this cooking KZbinr named Food Wishes
@Gilbot9000
@Gilbot9000 Жыл бұрын
Gonna add 1 to the Honda count someday...
@quekZo95
@quekZo95 Жыл бұрын
Should be easy with how dumb the char is right now
@runifuceeme406
@runifuceeme406 Жыл бұрын
ROOFLEMONGER'S INTRO IS STILL BY FAR, THE CREEPIEST I HAVE EVER HEARD.. TIME TO CHANGE THAT SHIT.. LOL!
@RuLeZ1988
@RuLeZ1988 Жыл бұрын
02:00 "But how easy it is for him to succeed." I would disagree here. That might be a false conclusion. Because it doesn't consider the decision making process of the player based purely on his personal taste and style in regards to visuals, presentation and playstyle of a character, rather than how strong/weak the character is. So some characters might be not played a lot in general, cause they are not fitting to a lot of people just because of its presentation. Dan and Fang are bad examples, since they also were weak, but I am pretty sure that also a lot of people didn't identify with their style of presentation. And other than that some characters are just a lot more popular to be played regardless of their strenght, like Ken and Ryu, because they are the main protagonists.
@ibrokemykeyboard
@ibrokemykeyboard Жыл бұрын
Surprised that Guile isn’t higher
@MaximumCarnage-
@MaximumCarnage- Жыл бұрын
Why you do Chun-Li dirty like that huh?
@jejisland
@jejisland Жыл бұрын
Nah I just get folded no matter what character I play
@jcman-lp6lg
@jcman-lp6lg Жыл бұрын
with a cake like that no doubt Cammy is popular
@daltonpetticord71
@daltonpetticord71 Жыл бұрын
No one liking my chun li action huh. I guess I gotta hit master rank before they reset me lol
@belgo527
@belgo527 Жыл бұрын
Saying Jp has it easier because more people hit master with him is sure a take. More that the character has the tools to compete in master, like the others.
@OhNoTheFace
@OhNoTheFace Жыл бұрын
If that makes you feel better
@arrownoir
@arrownoir Жыл бұрын
JP is supposed to be old as dirt, why is he so jacked?
@JoeyCentral
@JoeyCentral Жыл бұрын
He’s on the psycho juice
@Rooflemonger
@Rooflemonger Жыл бұрын
hes on the TRT
@c.conga11
@c.conga11 Жыл бұрын
We need new rank levels. Some Master ranks players must have got lucky in placement 😂
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