A love letter to Ai art - you don't need to be afraid

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Shadiversity

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Artists can actually benefit the most from Ai art and don't need to be afraid. In this video I want to share a perspective from an artist, and show the very process of creating the best Ai art with all the artistic talent you posses, which will surpass what anyone else can make with this technology.
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@mds_main
@mds_main 11 ай бұрын
Very well said and put. As a computer engineer myself I love the work you're doing to brind awareness to the public on how this tool really is. Unfortunately, judging by the comments down here, I think the fear-mongering against AI worked...
@Shylteryne
@Shylteryne 11 ай бұрын
"fear mongering against AI worked..." as it should
@mds_main
@mds_main 11 ай бұрын
@@Shylteryne Do you know that AI has been used in various fields for many years now? Medicine is one of such fields. My sister herself worked in the past years on machine learning and AI published papers that use this wonderful tech to assist doctors in their diagnosis and to enhance the results of some machines like TAC and magnetic resonance imaging that are used to find things like tumors in people. You don't see doctors complaining that this tech will steal their jobs, because they are smarter than that and they know very well this tech is literally helping them saving lives. And don't even get me started on the other fields AI has been used that the general public doesn't even know they are using it. Are you mad at AI? Well, be prepared to stop playing any videogame, to stop using any search engine, to stop using any translator, to stop using any scanning application, and the list goes on... You can argue that this tech is now readily available to the public (which, it already was actually, but whatever) and that it needs ad hoc regulations and I agree, but you cannot hold still the progress just because a few people feelings got hurt. I'm sure the invention of the printing press or the industrial revolution back in the days had their detractors, but we as a species evolved alongside those things and this will be no different. "Artists" need to adapt to this tech, the first they learn this the better for them.
@olivercharles2930
@olivercharles2930 11 ай бұрын
@@Shylteryne Nope.
@hodarov1564
@hodarov1564 11 ай бұрын
It's not "fear-mongering." It's soulless work made from the copies of actual artists; which people rightfully find detestable.
@mds_main
@mds_main 11 ай бұрын
@@hodarov1564 This comment only proves that you do not understand how this tech (on which I actually worked on for years) works. To put it in a way even an art person can understand (as in an artistic metaphor to not dump on you entire pages of technical terminology, so don't get offended for this line like other did), the training is no different from real people studing and recreating past pieces to develop their skills (which has always been a thing), but what comes after is completely original in both cases. If you call this "theft" then you must think people like Van Gogh or Giotto were thieves too.
@moderndayjames
@moderndayjames 10 ай бұрын
It's weird, somehow when I have someone else do the work for me it ends up better!
@aelion7761
@aelion7761 9 ай бұрын
Pretty much.
@madmantheepic7278
@madmantheepic7278 9 ай бұрын
Didn't expect you here xD
@LutraLovegood
@LutraLovegood 2 ай бұрын
I guess it depends on who you ask.
@Tasorius
@Tasorius Ай бұрын
"can you change up these parts a little bit and put my wife's head there instead without changing the size?" ---> "I made this piece of art myself, isn't my skill out of this world?!"
@luxnimb139
@luxnimb139 11 ай бұрын
" I have developped a keen eye for proportions " my brother in christ, the head is too big
@tollestoertchen
@tollestoertchen 11 ай бұрын
head too big, hands to small, her left foot about 1,5 times as big as her right one, broken bones in her left arm (maybe intentional tho? Injury from a fight?). If he doesn't want to learn that kinda stuff and let images be created another way, fine - but at least be honest with yourself and realize you don't have those skills lol. Maybe all these statements like the one you've quoted aren't actually meant to be serious but to make people write comments in order to push the video; in that case, great job, I wrote a FEW comments already because I'm so entertained xD
@jasonlavallee8195
@jasonlavallee8195 11 ай бұрын
@@tollestoertchen I looked it over and I don't see why the left arm looks broken. I got mixed feelings on AI art so I'm not really supporting it to a major degree, I'm just curious. But the scale of the head was very obvious to me. Shrinking the shoulders made that even more noticeable. also, there were some details in the hands that seemed a bit off. like the fingernails. I think he may have an artistic eye to a degree, but I guess the better you are as an artist, the better you could be using a AI model. I just don't really care to look at AI art that much because the "work" put into it is just not at the same level as non AI assisted art.
@paulogaspar8295
@paulogaspar8295 11 ай бұрын
@@tollestoertchen he has the same skills as most artists that are afraid ai art is going to take their jobs lol. Also in your own channel you literally have characters with huge heads compared to their bodies. you can claim it's an art style but so can he. if you are going to talk shit don't talk about something you literally do on your own channel.
@tollestoertchen
@tollestoertchen 11 ай бұрын
@@paulogaspar8295 well, my characters are obviously EXTREMELY stylized and there is NO intent to make them look realistic by any means. You wouldn't claim that Donald Duck's proportions look weird because they don't resemble a real duck, would you? And no, in THIS case he can't claim that it's an artstyle, because then it would have had to be a stylistic and intentional decision to stylize the proportions. And looking at his prompts which include "perfect proportions" and "photorealistic", it certainly wasn't. The comparison doesn't make any sense and you know it. On a side note, artists on his skill level usually aren't afraid of AI stealing their jobs, because they don't have a job in the art industry yet. I won't throw the "talking shit" card back at you, because it's always better to talk to each other like adults. I will admit though that my original comment was more passive-aggressive than it should have been. When the video came out, it just made me mad, which isn't an excuse of course. The main thing that triggered me was seeing his old art in the beginning, which had so much charm, being replaced by this other stuff. Anyhow, have a good day!
@godfrey4461
@godfrey4461 11 ай бұрын
@@tollestoertchen Good comeback
@maxoyew2965
@maxoyew2965 11 ай бұрын
Personally I hate how I can’t look up anything on Google anymore without thousands of creepy, oversaturated or outright shitty AI images polluting the search results. It’s uncanny and gross.
@62sy
@62sy 11 ай бұрын
That’s definitely not a real issue… XD what a stupid think to make up.
@pougetguillaume4632
@pougetguillaume4632 11 ай бұрын
The worse part is i can spot these ai artwork on the spot because they all have the same artstyle. The picture shad uses in his video is the exact same artstyle as any of the morbillions ai artwork out there. Artstyles are often unique to artist, sure some might manage to copy another's but even then you develop habits, tricks and kinks. There's hardly 2 artstyle that are the same.
@62sy
@62sy 11 ай бұрын
@@pougetguillaume4632 pretty sure you wouldn’t be able to differentiate real art from AI art if you are taking art from high quality AI models. I can asure you of that.
@BIackstrength
@BIackstrength 11 ай бұрын
@@62sy Yeah, I wouldn't be able to differentiate AI art from a very talented real artist... if his artstyle was extremely generic and bland. Shad's hand drawings are much more interesting from a creative point of view, even if the quality of the "drawing" is better with AI.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 11 ай бұрын
Bad AI generation engines combined with lazy people. If you see an image from a good engine where someone's put in some time and effort to get the details right, you'll never know what you saw.
@josephmayfield945
@josephmayfield945 6 ай бұрын
I goggled Will Smith, and some pictures of him popped up. I printed them out, and will be having a photography exhibition of my Will Smith art.
@halcyon.x
@halcyon.x 6 ай бұрын
you’re such a skilled artist!!
@AveragePicker
@AveragePicker 5 ай бұрын
Hey, google image search is just a tool. Sounds legit to me.
@FalkFlak
@FalkFlak 5 ай бұрын
But beware: If someone draws mustaches on that pictures they are officially not yours anymore! They belong to that other artist now.
@GlaciusTS
@GlaciusTS 2 ай бұрын
If you make a collage out of it, it would be your art.
@thegusk520
@thegusk520 2 ай бұрын
That you chose Will Smith is quite telling.
@Pyranders
@Pyranders 9 ай бұрын
I yelled at a waiter to go have my food remade because it wasn’t made quite how I wanted. This makes me an incredibly talented chef.
@iamLI3
@iamLI3 9 ай бұрын
hah hilarious analogy XD
@erock676
@erock676 9 ай бұрын
lmao
@johannplease5581
@johannplease5581 9 ай бұрын
I'll just add my comment under this glorious one.
@kestanecihasanpubg
@kestanecihasanpubg 9 ай бұрын
xd
@iamLI3
@iamLI3 9 ай бұрын
@@kestanecihasanpubg woah what a co-incidence that i just so happen to have started watching azumanga-daioh 2 weeks ago o: .....
@BlueDingo5
@BlueDingo5 11 ай бұрын
Why couldn't you have just stuck to mediaeval armour and weaponry
@OFraternaMori
@OFraternaMori 8 ай бұрын
Medieval artist doesn't care if it's not realistic or just straight bad, considering papers are expensive back then
@lenlyn
@lenlyn 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@OFraternaMoriI think they meant the type of genre not literal medieval times lol
@amazinggrapes3045
@amazinggrapes3045 7 ай бұрын
I knew this guy sounded familiar! Love him even more now
@GamePlayMetal
@GamePlayMetal 7 ай бұрын
Because he wants to cosplay as an artist
@RustyShackleford-re5oh
@RustyShackleford-re5oh 5 ай бұрын
Right, I mean he's pretty decent in SketchUp, but beyond that you can't exactly call yourself and artist based on this. Ai is like 6 months old right now. How long does it take to become an artist? We've got like 5-6 more years of Practicing Ai to go buddy! I don't care if you can draw or not!
@nikasungod1044
@nikasungod1044 11 ай бұрын
How does it feel having an actual artist as your brother.
@dpptd30
@dpptd30 11 ай бұрын
OWNED
@testing1567
@testing1567 10 ай бұрын
They did a whole video series on this on his brother's channel
@sowianskizonierz2693
@sowianskizonierz2693 10 ай бұрын
jazza is kind of an ai simp. he's a "fuck you I got mine" type. seems to run in the family
@massimo4307
@massimo4307 9 ай бұрын
AI art is art. Unless you're saying photographs are also not art? And you better not use photoshop or adobe at all, heathen!
@sowianskizonierz2693
@sowianskizonierz2693 9 ай бұрын
@@massimo4307 asking someone to create a painting for you doesn't make you can artist
@dmaa88
@dmaa88 10 ай бұрын
"Soccer is my passion, I love scoring goals, but I don't actually like running, or kicking the ball". - Shadversity, probably.
@marikothecheetah9342
@marikothecheetah9342 9 ай бұрын
And yet nobody claims that playing at football table is like playing in Champion's League.
@HTMangaka
@HTMangaka 9 ай бұрын
Okay, THAT'S pretty good. XD
@Henez89
@Henez89 8 ай бұрын
He's a great footballer too. Don't forget. He just doesn't enjoy the 90 minutes on the pitch.
@KevanWalter
@KevanWalter 8 ай бұрын
Man you art bros are so salty about people enjoying AI art lol
@HTMangaka
@HTMangaka 8 ай бұрын
@@KevanWalter Too bad you can’t Photoshop your ugly personality.
@StrikeHound
@StrikeHound 11 ай бұрын
I'll be honest, I was really hoping you were gonna show us the artistic skills that went into this. This isn't AI-assisted art, this is edited AI art, and the edits are lazy at best, relying on being able to just feed it into another stable defusion run to clean it up. As an artist, you should notice that the finished image is only visually pleasing at a glance. The more you look at it, the more you notice how the lighting is all kinds of wrong, and there's very little cohesion between all the parts. For example, look at the hands: they look like they were cut from a photo with studio lighting and pasted in with no regard to the rest of the image.
@dustrose8101
@dustrose8101 11 ай бұрын
The final image also messed up the perspective. I wasn't getting why everyone was saying her head was too big until I looked closer to the final showcase where not only did he bring her shoulders in, but she still has the proportions of the og image's foreshortening. It's like an optical illusion. Also the skirt is sooo fucked up I don't get why he didn't fix that.
@SteveAddeo
@SteveAddeo 10 ай бұрын
@@dustrose8101because he’s not an artist
@nefariouswatcher
@nefariouswatcher 10 ай бұрын
It's human-assisted AI art. He's got it flipped. He's not the artist, he's the assistant (and he sucks at it to top it off).
@TheDocPixel
@TheDocPixel 10 ай бұрын
This is as a good place as any to say this is a total Cringefest ! Bad art, composition, Photoshop skills, and AI. Topped with some seriously delusional narcissism. I feel sorry for his wife having to listen to him probably for hours on end talking about his artistic genius. 🙈
@peppermintgal4302
@peppermintgal4302 9 ай бұрын
@@SteveAddeo He actually _is_ an artist, and if you look at his sketches, they are, while not necessarily being "masterpieces," (they certainly aren't digitally realist, which I think is a style he envies, hence his interest in AI art,) very interesting pieces, most of them. He just doesn't have the right kind of skills to be photobashing like he tried. But I get where you're coming from... this is not an artistic act on his part.
@mysticmarbles
@mysticmarbles 10 ай бұрын
This is the Dunning Kruger effect given a human body. The AI did 99% of the work. All he did was choose a comp that he didn’t make and do markups that he fed back into the AI. That makes him an art director at best but really he’s more like a picky client because he’s not really contributing creatively. Just have fun and be honest about what you are doing. You are not the same as your brother. Not even close.
@ph3-lm
@ph3-lm 10 ай бұрын
This
@jojo11254
@jojo11254 10 ай бұрын
Still funny that Jazza is shad's brother lol. They're complete opposites. Real life yin and yang
@ScribbleNuts
@ScribbleNuts 10 ай бұрын
@@jojo11254 Jazza should put his brother in his place. Sometimes family have to do it.
@kissadev.
@kissadev. 10 ай бұрын
Shad is a client, a client of A.I., nothing else. For God's sake my clients also make a document writting what they want me to draw and they ask for changes of the final product two to four times... there is no difference.
@mysticmarbles
@mysticmarbles 10 ай бұрын
@@kissadev. Yeah I was being generous. I’m a professional illustrator and I’ve had clients contribute more than he does, with their own rough sketch to start with and detailed changes later on. It would be crayon eating stupid to be a client that does that and then claim that you made the art.
@MizzFujin
@MizzFujin 11 ай бұрын
Crazy thing is your actual art showed real personality and soul. But your ai stuff Is completely soulless and hermoginous.
@NathanLorenzana
@NathanLorenzana 11 ай бұрын
homogeneous
@Oltiemal
@Oltiemal 10 ай бұрын
@@KrinkelsNG no way we got the madness man himself here
@GlaciusTS
@GlaciusTS 10 ай бұрын
Everything is soulless, there is no soul.
@-haclong2366
@-haclong2366 10 ай бұрын
Purely subjective. This is like the obsession with wanting handmade stuff of inferior quality over machine made stuff of superior quality.
@102ndsmirnov7
@102ndsmirnov7 10 ай бұрын
Except here it's machine made stuff of inferior quality.@@-haclong2366
@Shabanezloth
@Shabanezloth 10 ай бұрын
You know the difference between an average artist who doesn't put much time and effort in their craft vs a professional artist? The average artist thinks he's the shit, while the professional artist think he's shit.
@hujan1744
@hujan1744 10 ай бұрын
Not always, i am an avarage and i think i am shit for example
@Silver77cyn
@Silver77cyn 10 ай бұрын
And shad is neither because he put little effort in his work while the ai did most of it.
@hujan1744
@hujan1744 10 ай бұрын
@@Silver77cyn As others said, he commisioned an artwork where he did some touch ups so the machine he has the commision from did it up to his specification, ending up with a shitty "art"work made from possibly hundreds if not millions of stolen artworks just for him to boast about how great of an artist he is while trying to sell the stolen commisioned piece of shit as his
@vihurah9554
@vihurah9554 10 ай бұрын
​@@hujan1744to rephrase OP, the artists with potential think they're shit, and we think we're shit because we know we can grow. Guys who think they're big cheese will always be shit because they'll never try to improve
@Oltiemal
@Oltiemal 10 ай бұрын
Unrelated but based artorias pfp
@adamwillis908
@adamwillis908 11 ай бұрын
Based on Shad's logic, my ChatGPT fueled novel makes me an author because I (very descriptively) told the AI what i wanted the story to be about.
@creepadept
@creepadept 11 ай бұрын
why do you think they had a writers union lol. AI can and will replace writers eventually
@thirion1850
@thirion1850 11 ай бұрын
@@creepadept "Will" is a very dark timeline. Even with humanity's worst writing, you really don't wanna go there.
@creepadept
@creepadept 11 ай бұрын
@@thirion1850 well it is dark if its the "self-aware AI" doing it. Otherwise pretty close to reality
@thirion1850
@thirion1850 11 ай бұрын
@@creepadept It's dark even if it's just an algorithmic model, nothing new will ever be created if it's a regurgitation of the old. All new artistic pursuits - as with any other rigorous work - require and are born of impetus.
@mega-chad8809
@mega-chad8809 11 ай бұрын
@@thirion1850as with all human inventions things progress, become refined, evolve. Imagine tell people 100 years ago we have cameras that can capture color now, and to such vibrancy of color. So many examples of this concept I could give, and I have no doubt that 10 years from now alone it will be better, I’m not one for predictions but someone will make a breakthrough at some point.
@bobsteven2363
@bobsteven2363 8 ай бұрын
I am an amazing chef. I hired a Michelin star chef, and asked him to make me a pizza. The chef made so many mistakes like putting caviar on the pizza. So I removed them with my own hands and added pepperoni instead. Then I hired another Michelin chef who specializes in pizza. I told him to fix the other mistakes that only I, a talented chef can see. The pizza at the end looks like a pizza. I'm truly an amazing chef.
@Totally_not_Crunx
@Totally_not_Crunx 7 ай бұрын
I bet there is a parallel universe wher shad would do this too xD
@FeepingCreature
@FeepingCreature 3 ай бұрын
Unironically yes. If you like how it tastes, where exactly is the issue?
@Teuwufel
@Teuwufel 3 ай бұрын
@@FeepingCreature issue is him calling himself ''a chef''
@FeepingCreature
@FeepingCreature 3 ай бұрын
@@Teuwufel I don't think this conflict will be solved by changing how some people are called.
@dogski2822
@dogski2822 2 ай бұрын
@@FeepingCreature Let's say you wanted to hire a chef. Now, would you want to hire someone who's deeply passionate about food, has years of both job and educational experience in the field, or would you want some guy who just tells other people what to do, makes very minor alterations, and at the end of it all creates a 6/10 product at best. If both of these individuals are labeled "chef", wouldn't you feel kind of cheated by the fact that these two highly different individuals were grouped together and presumed to be "equal"?
@Ben-fk9ey
@Ben-fk9ey 11 ай бұрын
I don't know how you can say that you have an "artistic eye" and everything else whilst completely missing that the light source (the sun) is behind her and yet you have loads of reflections and odd shadows everywhere.
@snintendog
@snintendog 11 ай бұрын
Cope harder BOT.
@Ben-fk9ey
@Ben-fk9ey 11 ай бұрын
@@snintendog Um ok?
@rocketbird1
@rocketbird1 11 ай бұрын
That's the point, thinking you can develop an "artistic eye" without tons of actual practice and constant study is just delusional. Same for the "flawless" (?) anatomies, or for the overall style of the pictures. They're distasteful, early 2000s DeviantArt teenage empty pieces.
@Bloodfencer1990
@Bloodfencer1990 11 ай бұрын
This one gets me, because in his reviews for Rings of Power he pointed out in one episode how the cavalry charge was coming from the wrong direction because "humans naturally pick up" on small details like the position of the sun and shadows cast by the environment. I guess his eye for detail goes completely blind when looking at his own work.
@Thurgosh_OG
@Thurgosh_OG 11 ай бұрын
Talking of details, why does she have no knees? There's barely a line or shadow indicating a joint there.
@wiiztec
@wiiztec 8 ай бұрын
"I've developed a very keen eye for proportion" as he shows a sketch of a man with a thinner waist than any woman
@klibe
@klibe 4 ай бұрын
his style seems to be entirely oblivious that people have internal organs or can pack fat
@aynain1810
@aynain1810 3 ай бұрын
​@@klibe lmao that's how ai image generators thrive on. Being blind. And narcissism ofc
@publiusventidiusbassus1232
@publiusventidiusbassus1232 2 ай бұрын
Proportion is not the same as realism. Take Pixar for example, their designs are far from realistic but are considered the gold standard in the industry when it comes to character design, since an obscene amount of research, theory and study goes into making every single thing from landscapes to characters to objects have a distinct and cohesive visual language that is still far from realistic. To do this one must have a mastery of figure, design, construction, perspective, etc. Shad's art isn't amateur because it is not realistic, but because he has a so-so sense of construction, so his disproportionately designed characters look off instead of stylized.
@hiroshimaii2458
@hiroshimaii2458 11 ай бұрын
Damn, you know I can spend a lot of time in the Skyrim character creator and spend time learning how to use it, but that doesn't make me a 3d artist.
@zzodysseuszz
@zzodysseuszz 11 ай бұрын
False equivalency. An actually valid analogy would be creating your own 3d model, modelling it, designing it, rendering it, and then putting it into Skyrim’s engine to customise it. Edit: it’s almost embarrassing how literally nobody here has even the slightest clue how ai works.
@wangusbeef86
@wangusbeef86 11 ай бұрын
Not yet, but everyone has to start somewhere
@Scottymation
@Scottymation 11 ай бұрын
@@zzodysseuszzNot the way this guy treats it. It’s pretty equivalent. More like ordering a custom pizza and claiming you cooked the meal.
@kaos88888888
@kaos88888888 11 ай бұрын
you need actual skills to 3D model a character, design and render one@@zzodysseuszz
@Carlimations
@Carlimations 11 ай бұрын
​@@zzodysseuszzooooooooooof terrible rebuttal bro. You actually press send after typing that out? 😂😂😂
@Tri1122
@Tri1122 11 ай бұрын
Everytime he says artistic eye take a shot
@blackdeath4eternity
@blackdeath4eternity 11 ай бұрын
LOL
@NoOne-rl2ol
@NoOne-rl2ol 10 ай бұрын
RIP
@Brandon-bc1fz
@Brandon-bc1fz 9 ай бұрын
It really is indicative of someone more keen on convincing themselves as opposed to others. Ive watched several videos of folks just doodling and going on about their methods and techniques. The number of times these artists referred to their "artistic eye"? ZERO!
@smolltaco5667
@smolltaco5667 5 ай бұрын
Hes defenetly insecure
@d0nat136
@d0nat136 3 ай бұрын
You wouldn't be able to pour up a shot by the end of the video, both because the bottle would be empty and you'd be too far gone to move
@ThomasAlanWayne
@ThomasAlanWayne 8 ай бұрын
Based on Shad’s logic, if I take one of his original drawings, not what the AI created for him, but his real drawings. I Put it in photoshop, change the colors a bit, maybe alter the proportions a bit, and stamp my name on it, it is now mine. I created that piece since I spent 2 hours on photoshop altering it a bit. I can monetize it and sell it as my wholly original creation.
@arkainin4638
@arkainin4638 8 ай бұрын
Even better, run his entire channel into a model. Clone his voice, and start up a competing podcast. You can literally replace him with AI, and by his logic, that's 100% fine.
@Shapeplusform
@Shapeplusform 8 ай бұрын
I use Google Docs and sometimes I change the font. You could say I’m somewhat of a professional calligrapher
@parttimed.m.1111
@parttimed.m.1111 8 ай бұрын
I remember seeing some you tube video showing a AI artist that takes it as seriously as this hack does. By the end of the video he sees someone else use his prompts and get pissed. "They stole MY PROMPTS!" I'm only calling this guy a hack, is because what he is saying will be taken to heart by someone else. A person that COULD have picked up a pencil and pad and cultured a skill, but now they take this route. If you are using general images to spark a idea to then draw from, I'm fine with it. Calling it art, that's trash.
@ThomasAlanWayne
@ThomasAlanWayne 8 ай бұрын
@@parttimed.m.1111 absolutely, hence my initial comment. These AI bros including Shad claim it’s not theft and what not but on the same token they will be mad when you turn their logic against them and take their prompts or AI images as your own. And again with AI how can you claim ownership of anything if the AI can easily copy any given image.
@sashalai3987
@sashalai3987 8 ай бұрын
​@@Shapeplusformguys chill i cant like every comment
@davinchat2
@davinchat2 8 ай бұрын
Shad uses AI to larp as an artist.
@bio0link
@bio0link 6 ай бұрын
LMFAO
@corneliusquincydavenportic1913
@corneliusquincydavenportic1913 5 ай бұрын
Nice one
@Tasorius
@Tasorius Ай бұрын
And he believes his own lies.
@nathangardon7379
@nathangardon7379 11 ай бұрын
man, this video really makes me wanna draw
@dylandreisbach1986
@dylandreisbach1986 10 ай бұрын
Same. I just bought Jazzas art supplies kit thing and I need to use it more. I wonder what his opinions are on this video.
@samuelreed1195
@samuelreed1195 9 ай бұрын
@@dylandreisbach1986 I hope he is ashamed of his Birchers opinion
@willoverdoseonmusic
@willoverdoseonmusic 8 ай бұрын
@@dylandreisbach1986 have you seen the clip of him trying to knock some sense into shed
@lioco6124
@lioco6124 5 ай бұрын
@@willoverdoseonmusic link?
@Glimpsed
@Glimpsed 11 ай бұрын
even AI couldn't fix that anatomy
@ZttackFrmBhind
@ZttackFrmBhind 11 ай бұрын
Tell that to Picasso, sometimes anatomical inaccuracy is the style
@Rindew
@Rindew 11 ай бұрын
​@@ZttackFrmBhindsometimes...
@milionST
@milionST 11 ай бұрын
Tell me you know nothing about Picasso without telling me...
@ZttackFrmBhind
@ZttackFrmBhind 11 ай бұрын
@@milionST "One of the most influential artists of the 20th century, he is known for co-founding the Cubist movement, the invention of constructed sculpture, the co-invention of collage, and for the wide variety of styles that he helped develop and explore." I don't know if you've seen cubist art, but sometimes anatomical inaccuracy is the style.
@yeetlol9572
@yeetlol9572 11 ай бұрын
​@ZttackFrmBhind the difference is that an artist makes anatomical fallacies on purpose, shad on the other hand didn't notice the anatomy issues because he's not an artist
@danielaivanova1498
@danielaivanova1498 10 ай бұрын
I've watched your armor/weaponry videos for a long time for their informational value, ironically as a reference for my own art. As I am watching this I feel a profound sense of disappointment both in the general sense of being an artist whose work is being exploited by this new technology, and specifically in you as someone I wanted to look up to and be grateful for. All the more, considering your own brother is an artist. For your sake, I hope the shame isn't too painful when you finally come to your senses.
@laigron7884
@laigron7884 10 ай бұрын
Yes maybe Ai is stealing (despite that isnt how that works) but i preffer AI before judgemental artist any day.
@randomjester9983
@randomjester9983 10 ай бұрын
@@laigron7884 No no that is how it works, unless you actually want to back up your claim.
@massimo4307
@massimo4307 9 ай бұрын
​@@randomjester9983AI doesn't steal work. It's the same way people are able to mimic and learn other people's styles by looking at their art online. If you can't come to grips with that, than you are a lost cause.
@samuelreed1195
@samuelreed1195 9 ай бұрын
@@laigron7884 I get not liking an individual art but try at least to understand that these artist are fearful for 2 things ai being trained off their own work and companies starting to use ai rather than actual artist losing the human aspect of it
@randomjester9983
@randomjester9983 9 ай бұрын
@@massimo4307 An AI doesn’t think that way, it can’t develop a style as you say without taking from thousands of creators, in a lot of cases without asking. AI artist brainrot is wild lol
@rdzdoodles8592
@rdzdoodles8592 11 ай бұрын
I rewatched this and something just occured to me. Why do you express your artistic eye and profound anatomical skill just now, when AI became popular? Why didn't you do it earlier?
@snorgonofborkkad
@snorgonofborkkad 11 ай бұрын
This guy has always been insecure with low self awareness but this video is (as he would say) astounding! He has no artistic training or skill at all and he doesn't know.
@rdzdoodles8592
@rdzdoodles8592 11 ай бұрын
@@snorgonofborkkad he lost a whole lot in my eyes. I used to watch his content but now it is hard to do even that. This behaviour of his is nothing short of delusion and the desperation permeating through this video (and the following 3 hour long reply to its criticism) betrays the insecurity you've mentioned. He will say we are the ones who are dum cavemen afraid of progress, but then so be it. Cavemen at least have a soul weaved in their art. What he is doing is, at best, being a post-producer: he cares for the final result only - which he admitted himself - not the process of it which makes art art; which makes art human-worthy. P.S. What I have also noticed is that he doesn't understand that time and effort spent on something is not an equal measure for quality and skill. I can make sand castles all day but I won't call them marvels of architecture just because I spend a whole day making them.
@olivercharles2930
@olivercharles2930 11 ай бұрын
Probably because people started making awful arguments based primarily on emotions when AI became popular.
@olivercharles2930
@olivercharles2930 11 ай бұрын
@@snorgonofborkkad Are we really gatekeeping art now? He doesn't need artistic training or skill (which he clearly has, even if it isn't perfect) to make a valid point.
@spacebook8923
@spacebook8923 11 ай бұрын
@@olivercharles2930 do you owe Shad a blowjob or something? You’re replying to every single comment coping your ass off
@meiyue138
@meiyue138 11 ай бұрын
How many times are you gonna say you have an artistic eye while others don't lol. I've never heard an artist talk this way about themselves
@Scottymation
@Scottymation 11 ай бұрын
lol It's just egotistical narcissism. Try not to pay it any mind.
@erlockruuziik7237
@erlockruuziik7237 11 ай бұрын
If he said this stuff in regards to film, his EFAP buddies would pillory him.
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 11 ай бұрын
Untill he convinces himself that this is true lol
@brandi598
@brandi598 11 ай бұрын
Fr no real artist has to convince people of their skill, it is just shown in the work LMAOOO
@TheHornedKing
@TheHornedKing 11 ай бұрын
What? I have heard plenty of artists talk like that. It's nothing new at all.
@lytsedraak
@lytsedraak 11 ай бұрын
As a writer, do you feel the same about ChatGPT and writing fiction?
@ernie9538
@ernie9538 11 ай бұрын
What's going on with chatgpt?
@skepticalbadger
@skepticalbadger 11 ай бұрын
​​@@mihaisfira7612Then he's a cretin.
@grinningtiki220
@grinningtiki220 11 ай бұрын
I use it to get over a writers block. Granted I don't like the direction it takes but it gives me something to think about in a different way. Then I write what I came up with.
@arlaghdoth4434
@arlaghdoth4434 11 ай бұрын
@@grinningtiki220 Same.
@lytsedraak
@lytsedraak 11 ай бұрын
@@ernie9538 people are selling books on sites like Amazon written entirely by ChatGPT as a quick way to make money.
@Gior89
@Gior89 9 ай бұрын
Source of light behind, shine and reflections at the front what an ability, such skill wow, much dedication.
@Ivvelis
@Ivvelis 8 ай бұрын
dont forget the head thats too big
@realdragon
@realdragon 8 ай бұрын
You just don't understand artistic process /s
@Oltiemal
@Oltiemal 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, he has such an artistic eye!
@darkithnamgedrf9495
@darkithnamgedrf9495 8 ай бұрын
Three sources of light lmao, one on the back, front, and top
@joeblogs6598
@joeblogs6598 5 ай бұрын
He's shown he can draw decent pictures, so you can't claim he's not an artist. You could say he's not a good one if you want. I don't get the fuss over AI; artists can still draw, it's not stopping them. All that could happen is art of their quality becomes more common. But that is not a complaint that AI is stopping them, instead it is that AI attacks their ego.
@Urban_King1
@Urban_King1 11 ай бұрын
Isn't this like commissioning an artist and then editing his painting?
@Scottymation
@Scottymation 11 ай бұрын
You are correct.
@whyarehandlesathingonyoutube
@whyarehandlesathingonyoutube 11 ай бұрын
yeah, and then taking a whole bunch of other art pieces and making a collage out of it
@Outside85
@Outside85 11 ай бұрын
Or copying an image from the internet and claim its yours.
@ggadams639
@ggadams639 11 ай бұрын
yeah but he didn't even pay the artist, and he uses the work of multiple artists to get one result. You see the big problem, it's worse than people imagine
@MrPablosek
@MrPablosek 11 ай бұрын
@@whyarehandlesathingonyoutube You don't know how AI models work, get out with your dumb autist propaganda.
@jaimeoesfolado6391
@jaimeoesfolado6391 11 ай бұрын
"I have a keen eye for proporsion" Proceeds to show drawings with proporsion mistakes
@OntheOtherHandVideos
@OntheOtherHandVideos 11 ай бұрын
Art can have objective mistakes? I'm pretty sure if the artist says 'I don't like this proportionality', and 'this is better for what I'm going for', they are the arbiters of creating their vision. If you disagree, that's fine.
@Scottymation
@Scottymation 11 ай бұрын
@@OntheOtherHandVideos Lol Nice cope, but you’ll never be an artist.
@terriermonisgod
@terriermonisgod 11 ай бұрын
i know tons of professional artists who blends many mediums including diffusion art. it is obvious your brain is far from fully developed. your mother needs to limit the screen time@@Scottymation
@Scottymation
@Scottymation 11 ай бұрын
@@terriermonisgod LOL Oh I totally believe someone like you spazzing out knows pro artists. Nice salty projection. I'm sorry you wish you could draw. Whether you like it or not, it's not art, and the majority of even non-artists agree. People ask for refunds immediately when they find out what they commissioned was AI generated trash.
@DarthBiomech
@DarthBiomech 11 ай бұрын
To play the devil's advocate, shad's errors are too consistent to be errors, and look more like stylization to me. Too bad the ai actually _erases_ that stylization...
@gigawarman12
@gigawarman12 8 ай бұрын
Someone clearly has not had their ego checked
@Myder_Dragon
@Myder_Dragon 8 ай бұрын
Bro sticks take-out in a microwave, presses a button, and calls himself a chef.
@ProjectHana
@ProjectHana 7 ай бұрын
a stolen take-out in a stolen microwave
@Myder_Dragon
@Myder_Dragon 7 ай бұрын
@@ProjectHana very true
@amazinggrapes3045
@amazinggrapes3045 7 ай бұрын
"an chief"
@Myder_Dragon
@Myder_Dragon 7 ай бұрын
@@amazinggrapes3045 fixed
@stevecrafter518
@stevecrafter518 2 ай бұрын
That’s too much effort. He would force his brother to press the button.
@SpecterVonBaren
@SpecterVonBaren 11 ай бұрын
I prefer the actual art you've drawn over the processed AI stuff. Your original stuff shows a distinct person while the AI art LOOKS factory made.
@Wizards0nly
@Wizards0nly 11 ай бұрын
i was going to say the same thing, his original art is distinct and the ai versions he made of them look cookie cutter and uncanny
@justinjohnston8923
@justinjohnston8923 11 ай бұрын
hahaha he's so fuxking dumb 😂 it's kind of sad that an artist has to use a algorithm of other people's art to feel like he's an artist, also ironic when soon writing AI models are going to write Shad's "fantasy" books
@SpecterVonBaren
@SpecterVonBaren 11 ай бұрын
@@Wizards0nly I figured out the best analogy for this. It's like getting a bunch of great ingredients, then cooking and preparing them and making some kind of excellent meal. That's an artist. AI art is like taking all of those ingredients and throwing them into a blender and instead serving the "shake" as a meal. Yes... you are technically getting the same nutrients. But to say they are AT ALL alike is just wrong.
@michaelwarenycia7588
@michaelwarenycia7588 11 ай бұрын
As an artist, I completely agree. The effect on the social aspects of artistic life is also being overlooked. Many artistic kids (throw in music here, too, which can also be replicated by ai) , especially if they are shy or introverted, find purpose and friendships via their talent. But if nobody has any use for them and nobody cares, since they can just use a computer themselves, their unique talent loses much of its value. Also think of the friends or relationships we make for which the initial catalyst is meeting together for sharing our work, collaborating, shows and events, art school (which will become rapidly less popular...it's hard enough already convincing most parents to help their artsy teenager to go to uni to study art. It will be impossible except for the rich once everyone knows art careers don't exist anymore, replaced by ai)....all that will be gone. You'll just have sociophobic tech people in their rooms, pumping out generic AI art at the touch of a button, and no more of the sense of development and accomplishment that comes through refining skills and creating.
@acemarvel1564
@acemarvel1564 11 ай бұрын
Natural will always be superior to processed and fake
@ThatFoxxoLeo
@ThatFoxxoLeo 11 ай бұрын
AI art won't ever be art. It's like calling autocorrect an author. It's a computer trying to fill in the gaps, not a creator with a vision on what they want.
@WJS774
@WJS774 11 ай бұрын
And a paintbrush is also not an artist. It's a _tool_ that an artist uses. Hilarious that you say that the computer _isn't_ an artist though, since I have another AI art hater who argues that it _is,_ and that Shad is the commissioner. Amazing the knots you people twist yourselves in to try and dismiss AI art.
@Scottymation
@Scottymation 11 ай бұрын
@@WJS774 LOL I'm gonna write some prompts on my paintbrush. If it doesn't start painting for me, you're probably making a false equivalence.
@RedHatGuyYT
@RedHatGuyYT 10 ай бұрын
​@@WJS774you seem to misunderstand just how different a brush is from a piece of software that does it FOR you
@WJS774
@WJS774 10 ай бұрын
@@RedHatGuyYT So you're also in the "The AI is an artist" camp, are you?
@beachbum111111
@beachbum111111 10 ай бұрын
art, shart. Most terminally online artists that are bitching about this shit are mentally ill fucked up freaks who draw disgusting fetish porn and have a terrible grasp of form and lighting. These reprobates being automated and forced out of work is the greatest thing AI could give to humanity.
@jmhorange
@jmhorange 11 ай бұрын
So is no one going to point out that despite his immense talent above other AI artists, she's lit from the front but the sun is behind her?
@nicnac7579
@nicnac7579 11 ай бұрын
LMAO
@KRoseCarol
@KRoseCarol 11 ай бұрын
I saw that too -- didn't catch the shoulder proportions though. D'oh!
@jmhorange
@jmhorange 11 ай бұрын
@@KRoseCarol That was the best part, cause we've never seen his wife. How are we supposed to know if she has broad shoulders? The "average" woman doesn't but any particular woman can have any proportion of shoulders. Armed with hidden knowledge of his wife, he calls us all out on not spotting that haha!
@dibbidydoo4318
@dibbidydoo4318 11 ай бұрын
Clearly there's a flashlight in front of her.
@Wargod_ARTS
@Wargod_ARTS 11 ай бұрын
I think all that matters in the end is NOT what we think but ultimately what he thinks about his own art and what his wife thinks as the art is also for her. What the general public thinks is completely irrelivent and nonsensical. 😉
@pedrocorreia1174
@pedrocorreia1174 11 ай бұрын
You guys do realize the claims of stealing aren´t because the AI art does the work for you; it's because the models were trained using thousands of unlicensed images. Without the consent of the creators, it has the same stigma as tracing. You are basically editing a mashup of stolen content. I´m in the process of creating my own model based on my own art. It won't be as BADDASS as the many models we have out here, but it will definitely be my own. More people should try that, but it is a very a workfulll process. Do that, and no one will question your skills
@beachbum111111
@beachbum111111 10 ай бұрын
Who cares? You know that artists don't just magically draw everything out of their head right? They are using a dozen different references from other artists for lighting, composition, form, character design, etc. Everything is iterative and the best ideas are stolen.
@AlexReynard
@AlexReynard 10 ай бұрын
"Without the consent of the creators, it has the same stigma as tracing." No. Flat-out no. When you trace, you take ONE image for direct copying. The AI is looking at thousands of images for reference of what things look like, then creating an image that has never existed before. It has NEVER been called theft for a person to do that. Can you imagine a gallery suing me because I went there, looked at the art, came home, and made my own art in a similar style?
@JustFeral
@JustFeral 10 ай бұрын
@@AlexReynard Don't try to explain to people too dumb to do a simple google search to find out information on their own. They don't care, they just wanna be ignorant and mad.
@AlexReynard
@AlexReynard 10 ай бұрын
@@JustFeral Well, they likely don't WANT to be. But the anti-AI-art crowd are LOUD and not shy about bullying, so a lot of people cave in and agree with them due to social pressure. Or, just because outrage is addictive. It's why I try to offer explanations. If I just insult them, that gives them a good reason to respond with anger. If I don't take the bait, and they want to respond with anger anyway, they have to double down and be a jerk. If anyone's reading along, they get to see which side of the argument responds with respect and which doesn't.
@AmstradExin
@AmstradExin 10 ай бұрын
Even tracing, you still do it yourself.
@alexortiz6170
@alexortiz6170 11 ай бұрын
Honestly your old art look better and with more potential, with practice and time you could have achieved better and more interesting results than with AI, you just choose the easy way.
@tadaokou4919
@tadaokou4919 11 ай бұрын
Walking to the other side of the continent doesn't improve and skill. You don't learn how to walk by walking a lot. Learning to draw is learning a skill. Everyone knows that which makes your response delusional to any sane person.@kingofassholes4348
@spacebook8923
@spacebook8923 11 ай бұрын
@kingofassholes4348 probably the worst analogy I’ve ever heard regarding art and Ai art
@Jenna_Talia
@Jenna_Talia 11 ай бұрын
@kingofassholes4348 It's more like paying someone to drive you everywhere so you can claim you know how to drive when in reality learning to drive yourself would have been so much better in the long run, even if it takes effort and is hard.
@hujan1744
@hujan1744 10 ай бұрын
@kingofassholes4348 It's more like instead of visiting the other side of the continent, you just like look at photos and what your friend told you about the place and then saying you are an expert on that part of the world
@devalue7064
@devalue7064 10 ай бұрын
i would never look at his old art. There is nothing special about it, there are hundreds of thousands images of similar quality on deviantart.
@rjuj
@rjuj 11 ай бұрын
coping for half an hour and then some straight without interruption is a skill in itself, congrats bro!
@olivercharles2930
@olivercharles2930 11 ай бұрын
That might be the most ironic thing I have ever read. Don't you anti-AI fanatics spend all your time coping with AI art?
@rjuj
@rjuj 11 ай бұрын
@@olivercharles2930 what’s there to cope with? none of the pictures he’s generated impressed me. the funniest examples of his work he’s shown so far were the ones that still had fucked up hands despite his countless retries and applying his „artistic eye“, or the ones where he can’t figure out how light works. i don’t know what about this is supposed to impress me, the same boring photo with a lame character like a stereotypical viking or fucking superwoman infront of a backdrop that looks like the character creator of an RPG? with the same immediately obvious glossy AI look? i struggled to see what he tried to sell as artistic ingenuity and expertise. maybe if someone else made a video like this and maybe if that person actually explained anything instead of narcissistically jerking off to his insane knowledge of art for 40 minutes.
@olivercharles2930
@olivercharles2930 11 ай бұрын
@@rjuj - Dumb lawsuits by artists against AI - People whining about AI art not being perfect - People claiming AI art will have all artists starving within a month And so on.
@rjuj
@rjuj 11 ай бұрын
@@olivercharles2930 no, my point is the reverse. i think the use for AI is very limited and will never replace real art because it's always a recreation, a mere immitation of real art. now i don't know what a lawsuit against AI users would be about, so i cannot comment on that.
@olivercharles2930
@olivercharles2930 11 ай бұрын
@@rjuj There is no such thing as real art imo
@skyhornet8677
@skyhornet8677 11 ай бұрын
Completely disagree on the part where you say you have your own “style” of ai art, as I’ve seen very similar pieces elsewhere.
@GriffintheBased
@GriffintheBased 11 ай бұрын
Right? No one can tell AI images apart based on who put the prompt in. Because the image wasn't made by the prompter, it was made by the AI whole cloth.
@witchesburntdiary
@witchesburntdiary Ай бұрын
Plus, even if he had it wouldn’t be his style, but someone else’s style he stole
@Valiarah
@Valiarah 8 ай бұрын
Like seriously, is he delusional?
@fiel81
@fiel81 4 ай бұрын
Yes
@Paddylol
@Paddylol 2 ай бұрын
Very
@waffler-yz3gw
@waffler-yz3gw 2 ай бұрын
Extremely
@ammaccabanane4578
@ammaccabanane4578 2 ай бұрын
totally
@LutraLovegood
@LutraLovegood 2 ай бұрын
He doesn't meet the clinical definition of delusional by any means.
@MartKart8
@MartKart8 11 ай бұрын
This felt like a 90/10 90 percent A.I assisted instructions (Maths) and 10% person making tweaks in Photoshop, I don't know how to make that sound positive.
@Likexner
@Likexner 11 ай бұрын
Youre assuming that the AI input is negative. Why?
@Akko1
@Akko1 11 ай бұрын
Maybe even less Human input, if he removes his AI tool "effort" he is left with just a doodle.
@MartKart8
@MartKart8 11 ай бұрын
@@Akko1 I disliked his aggressive tone, he reminds me of this guy's channel called "Blaines", claims getting rare Pokémon from a device a "hacked Nintendo Switch" which gives players any Pokémon they want, like rare events with the same move set makes it legal. They way Shad and Blaines words there content is very similar to each other.
@lordpepper6932
@lordpepper6932 11 ай бұрын
More like 99/1
@Brandon-bc1fz
@Brandon-bc1fz 9 ай бұрын
@@Likexner because you need a data set. Those data sets are full of images sourced unethically. This in turns leads to folks like shad pumping out shite and expecting head pats for being a good little noodle.
@csauragusta
@csauragusta 11 ай бұрын
I told mcdonalds that my burger had too much onion on it I am an amazing chef
@DigitalDreamsForever
@DigitalDreamsForever 11 ай бұрын
Now tell him to make Fried Chicken and then a side of Pizza? AI has no limits and can render any image. Your fast food burger pit can't compete.
@t1w894
@t1w894 11 ай бұрын
@@DigitalDreamsForeverNot even close to the point the guy was making dude.
@fernandomaron87
@fernandomaron87 10 ай бұрын
​@@DigitalDreamsForeverTerrible answer
@Dead_Goat
@Dead_Goat 3 ай бұрын
@@t1w894 no it does make sense. Explain to those people that dont know how to make fried chicken and pizza how to make it and how make it exactly how you want it to taste.
@mikegiamalva321
@mikegiamalva321 2 ай бұрын
@@Dead_Goat still completely misses the point of the original comment
@alexr1632
@alexr1632 8 ай бұрын
it's crazy how self-important you sound
@fiel81
@fiel81 4 ай бұрын
"I am an artist🤓"
@alvar4547
@alvar4547 9 ай бұрын
watching the comments roasting this video is more interesting than the video itself.
@telosnium
@telosnium 10 ай бұрын
The only good thing to come out of this video is the comment section
@AdamDuffArt
@AdamDuffArt Ай бұрын
Hmm, I’m finally watching your video Shadi because many artists in my community compared yours and Ergojoshs takes on AI There’s a very distinct and significant difference between what you and Josh are communicating - and that has to do with your career focuses Josh is a professionally trained artist who drew and researched using raw human skill throughout 90% of the process You aren’t a professionally trained artist who is using AI to generate 90% of the image and is using photoshop to make minor tweaks to it What Josh is creating is art - what you’re doing is basic photo editing You didn’t create anything here, AI did That said, what I can see is a passion for drawing (from your own drawings) and a creative imagination that could be taken to great professional heights if you did decide to train yourself in artistic fundamentals You have the artists DNA, you just haven’t developed it to have any kind of artistic voice or independence - YET! I really recommend that you take a few art courses because combining your imagination with strong drawing skills and you have yourself something really special
@AdamDuffArt
@AdamDuffArt Ай бұрын
PS - you’ve successfully made many wives jealous out there. You’ve honoured your lovely woman simply through your desire to immortalize her visually
@dyastro7479
@dyastro7479 Ай бұрын
Keep in mind (though HOW relevant this is is up to you) but this guy is Jazza's brother (if you know who Jazza is in the art community)
@AdamDuffArt
@AdamDuffArt Ай бұрын
@@dyastro7479of course, Jazza’s a very well known figure in the art community - and he is a well trained artist My mother has a Masters in Computer Science (and fine arts), that doesn’t mean being her son makes me an authority on computer programming, my mother is - I know very little programming That said, I appreciate Shadi sharing his perspective and creativity about AI with his community - it actually highlights a common public perspective from non-trained artists. Imagine I produced a video claiming that I was an authority on medieval weaponry and armour crafting because I used a computer to simulate a sword fight using AI and tweaked it a bit manually True authorities on the subject such as Shadi would be “up in arms” (pun intended) However - I mean what I said earlier however - Shadi has definitely demonstrated that he’s done a ton of drawing and that says a lot about his emotional and personal relationship with art - he’s in deep He’s the type of artist that I’d push towards taking a few courses online - mix his creativity, dedication and passion with a little training - he’ll be an artistic powerhouse in no time
@debilita9999
@debilita9999 Ай бұрын
I completely agree Adam. Sadly Shad said himself that he simply doesnt have time to learn to draw. Hes doing too many things. I think hed be able to achueve what he wants in year tops but ppl already tried to persiade him to learn to draw more. Been like a decade and none succeeded. Im afraid he wont take that step.
@AdamDuffArt
@AdamDuffArt Ай бұрын
@@debilita9999he’s still young and talented, so he has all the time I. The world to explore other creative skills He has to manage his priorities however, he has a huge channel and what he does requires a ton of research and production time Rest assured I’ll always support his desire to build his artistic skills - heck, I’m a teacher, I’d be honoured to teach him myself. He comes across to me like the type of artist student I’d have a ton of fun with
@pandies4570
@pandies4570 11 ай бұрын
all of the faces look photoshopped on. Its super weird and unnerving.
@TeHzoAr
@TeHzoAr 11 ай бұрын
Shad: "theres one more problem with this image, im wondering if you can see it" My primal brain: head too big. Head too big. The head is so obviously large. I hate it. Run. You are now experiencing a fear response. Shad: "thats right, the shoulders are too wide and masculine"
@HappyNamedHero
@HappyNamedHero 11 ай бұрын
You were thinking head too big, I was thinking body too small XD
@foxorian
@foxorian 11 ай бұрын
Goes to show that even with AI if you don't have an understanding on anatomy, proportion, pose, form, and silhouette, you won't know how to correct what the AI generates when it inevitably gets it wrong. You can't generate fundamental skills and good taste in your brain with an AI prompt.
@louis-dubois-artist
@louis-dubois-artist 11 ай бұрын
It's perspective.
@zzodysseuszz
@zzodysseuszz 11 ай бұрын
@@foxorian the anatomy issues were from HIS misunderstanding not the ai.
@TeHzoAr
@TeHzoAr 11 ай бұрын
@@louis-dubois-artist its called "foreshortening" and no, it isnt
@TheTexasLass
@TheTexasLass 7 ай бұрын
I've been a self-taught artist for over ten years and never once have I prattled on about my keen, artistic eye to people. Have I been doing it wrong all this time? 😭😭
@Adonisius_Kavata
@Adonisius_Kavata 4 күн бұрын
He's not convincing you, he's convincing himself. And failingly so.
@Spiridon94
@Spiridon94 11 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who thinks that the edited image of super girl looks ten times worse than the unaltered AI image? For all that braging about his "artistic eye" he somehow managed to make the image a lot more fake and weird than the original.
@jakubchalupa8510
@jakubchalupa8510 11 ай бұрын
The original at least had a cartoonish face, so your eye doesn't immediatedly start looking for human proportions, but once you slap a photorealistic face on this whole thing, all that flies out of the window. Not to mention his artistic eye also butchered the already weird, but somewhat passable pose (the original looks like she's tilted forward, about to take off, or at least it seems to be what the AI was trying to do, hence the larger head and broad shoulders compared to the rest of the body), but his tweaks made the pose flat and on the same plane, while mostly keeping the original proportions. The result speaks for itself, everyhing is broken, but especially the absolutely gigantic head.
@Spiridon94
@Spiridon94 11 ай бұрын
@@jakubchalupa8510 I completely agree. Not to mention that the buildings around her and the far away city down below in the original made it a lot more interesting to look at from a compositional standpoint. The edited version just looks like she is put infront of a green screen or something. Hard to put it into words but the character just looks weirdly out of place.
@MaryArts
@MaryArts 11 ай бұрын
Well, Art is still subjective. Guess it was more important to him to show his wife like a superwoman-angel
@WJS774
@WJS774 11 ай бұрын
It's almost like his artistic choices make a difference in the final image from when the AI was just doing it all itself. Almost like that was the entire point of the video. I bet that if he was showing a picture that he had drawn on paper you wouldn't be saying "that's not art, the proportions are wrong". The double-standards are hilarious.
@Spiridon94
@Spiridon94 11 ай бұрын
@@WJS774 Alright, he made a difference but he made it worse. So what's your point? I am sure competent artists could fix the mistakes the AI made, but then why would they use it in the first place and not just draw whatever they want from scratch?
@Doraemonborrachillo2207
@Doraemonborrachillo2207 11 ай бұрын
only someone with a deep knowledge in anatomy will see what is wrong with this image. me: the funko pop sized head. The IA master: the width of the shoulders Me: yeah sure.
@croutendo2050
@croutendo2050 11 ай бұрын
😂 😂
@olivercharles2930
@olivercharles2930 11 ай бұрын
And?
@benjamingomez1761
@benjamingomez1761 10 ай бұрын
​@olivercharles2930 it proves that he has not artistic eye, he is not an artist, he doesn't know anatomy
@dearrationals
@dearrationals 8 ай бұрын
Called his wife "creature"
@ydahshet9428
@ydahshet9428 10 ай бұрын
huh, the like to dislike ratio is actualy more even than expected. 4.3k likes, 7.5k dislikes. I was expecting it to be worse. Also just commission an artist, that way you are supporting actual artists and not tech-bro's.
@reginaldforthright805
@reginaldforthright805 9 ай бұрын
Those are the hardcore shad fans. If this video ever blows up it will be overwhelmed with down votes.
@amazinggrapes3045
@amazinggrapes3045 7 ай бұрын
I'll commission an artist if I can afford and I know they won't be a pain to work with But if not, I'll take a fast food burger over a nice meal
@josephmayfield945
@josephmayfield945 6 ай бұрын
@@amazinggrapes3045there are ton's of new artists looking to get their work out there, that will do work for super cheap, or free.
@LutraLovegood
@LutraLovegood 2 ай бұрын
@@amazinggrapes3045 I'm still looking for one who can make me hundreds of variations until I finally find what I want, is easy to work with, that I can afford, doesn't mind me doing touch-ups or completely changing the style, can work very quickly on short notice, and did I mention that I'm broke?
@Undlark
@Undlark 9 ай бұрын
I cannot emphasize this more: Calling yourself an AI artist is like calling yourself an trained athlete because you're good at playing fantasy football, but worse, because there are very real artists who's AI program you are using whose work was used to train this program. Artists who have spent years and decades to produce the artwork that you, right now, are claiming to call your own.
@ainzy3889
@ainzy3889 9 ай бұрын
Not really, simplifying it to fantasy football is ignoring all the nuances with the current generators present today, granted it's a way easier medium compared to almost all artistic expressions. When people say art, in most contexts they imply an expression of something with a degree of sophistication, like how talking is not an art but singing definitely is, you may consider that just putting words in a generator is not art but you'd also excluded a bunch of stuff common example being photography.
@SiphonRayzar
@SiphonRayzar 9 ай бұрын
@@ainzy3889 AI Art will always be souless copying, with no intrinsic creativity to itself. Using an AI "tool" to make art does not make you an artist, it makes you an AI programmer. That is stealing the work from countless artists for the AI to do it's work. And thankfully, Governments are finally putting tech bros in their place. First was the NFT crash, now comes the AI art crash, that it rightfully deserves. Thieves, all of you.
@ainzy3889
@ainzy3889 9 ай бұрын
@@SiphonRayzar firstly: soulless or soulful doesn't mean anything and I don't know what you're saying by intrinsic creativity which a normal painting has that ai art doesn't because both depend on the person. Secondly: You don't even have a definition of artist that can't apply to someone using ai to express their thoughts, someone using ai is not considered a programmer unless they are using a model and actively training it. Thirdly: Can you give me a meaningful distinction between someone looking at drawings from Murata or Stanley and then slowly learning how they do it and someone training an ai model on them and it slowly distinguishing one shape from the other until both can draw Spiderman in any position imaginable. Also if these exchanges are getting too long and too broad just narrow down which point you want to hammer out.
@SiphonRayzar
@SiphonRayzar 9 ай бұрын
@@ainzy3889 As far as intrinsic creativity, I mean AI art has none. A painting painted by someone by hand has intrinsic creativity behind it, a sculpture sculpted by hand has intrinsic creativity behind it. A comic strip drawn by hand has intrinsic creativity behind it. AI art that is spat out from a prompt, does not. And that ties into the third point, someone looking at other art and usint THEIR OWN TWO HANDS to create something inspired by it, is far different from a thief entering text into a prompt and spitting out AI garbage.
@ainzy3889
@ainzy3889 9 ай бұрын
@@SiphonRayzar why does a hand matter exactly?
@Movie_Games
@Movie_Games 11 ай бұрын
Is it just me or is her head huge in the final photo? Also, she's got a megan fox thumb on her right hand.
@MrJinxmaster1
@MrJinxmaster1 11 ай бұрын
it's funny how ai art has a definite "look" when it's going for "realistic artwork" style that soft wavy look is unmistakeable
@Krytern
@Krytern 11 ай бұрын
What do you mean by soft wavy look? (legitimate question, I go to the eye hospital every 3 months lol)
@RiskOfBaer
@RiskOfBaer 11 ай бұрын
​@@Krytern If you look at enough of those ai generated pictures, you will pick up on this quality. We can't really explain it to you, doesn't work that way.
@ThatOneGuyNamedLemon
@ThatOneGuyNamedLemon 11 ай бұрын
​@@KryternIt looks like it's trying to merge a real image with a paint filter in different intensities, so it gives of the "almost real" look that ends up looking all weird.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 11 ай бұрын
Bad engines. You can get photograph quality results on the right ones.
@darkzeroprojects4245
@darkzeroprojects4245 11 ай бұрын
And the generic Anime, cartoon stuff I keep seeing in Pixiv.... It's becoming so agregious I can spot it easily.
@0er069
@0er069 8 ай бұрын
"Art is very important to me." Then why not get better at it instead of using AI?
@Strange9952
@Strange9952 8 ай бұрын
why not do both? mind = blown
@Oltiemal
@Oltiemal 8 ай бұрын
@@Strange9952 because the AI is a handicap
@Strange9952
@Strange9952 8 ай бұрын
it's a tool @@Oltiemal
@havcola6983
@havcola6983 8 ай бұрын
​@@Strange9952 Like a bus is a tool for walking.
@Gruftkriecher
@Gruftkriecher 8 ай бұрын
@@Strange9952 My phone is a tool to call a carpenter. Guess I am a carpenter now.
@unculturedit
@unculturedit 11 ай бұрын
this is uncontestable, i cant imagine how jazza would feel abt this. i think the correct way to use ai is to use it as a reference or a source for inspiration e.g backgrounds, i use it for backgrounds as im a comic artist. when i find something i like ill save it and draw my own base from it, that way im not actually using the artists original work in my final panel / product.
@2006HondaCivicD
@2006HondaCivicD 11 ай бұрын
Based take. I use it for curing art block and such.
@unculturedit
@unculturedit 11 ай бұрын
@2006HondaCivicD yea I can see that being viable too, I usually watch media I'm inspired by to cure my artbloxk sometimes it works other times I'm that deep in a block nothing will save me
@bluecanine3374
@bluecanine3374 11 ай бұрын
Hell, even just be upfront that it is AI art and don't try and conflste yourself with traditional artists who spend years on their craft making their own styles.
@TheMsLourdes
@TheMsLourdes 11 ай бұрын
@@bluecanine3374 to be fair though, this is a style and art of an artist, ie shad, in their as well no one is saying don't acknowledge you used ai art tools, but that's what they are, tools.
@-_-DatDude
@-_-DatDude 11 ай бұрын
​@@bluecanine3374 Does it really matter thou? Its essentially like one person deciding to grill toast and another person using a toaster to make toast. Grilling takes more skill but at the end of the day its still just toast. In the same vein, it's just art. It's not life or death bro.
@benjamingomez1761
@benjamingomez1761 10 ай бұрын
Bro it aint elitism, your image has a head too big and the light source is all over the place, but to know that tou would need artistic skill, and you clearly don't have one
@Ze_Ze_Ze
@Ze_Ze_Ze 10 ай бұрын
Let's say three people challenged themselves to walk from one end of the US to the other, coast to coast. The first person walked the entire distance on foot as intended-it was tough and they might have wanted to give up at points, but they did it. The second person rented a bike after awhile, making the journey a bit easier in some places (going downhill), a bit tougher in others (going uphill), but overall a bit quicker. Maybe not as impressive as walking, yet still an admirable. Lastly, the third person walked half way, decided to call an Uber, got in the passenger seat, and gave the driver directions. Then, about 10 minutes from the destination, they got out and walked to the finish line-thus claiming they finished the challenge. Ask yourself (particularly you, Shad): Was what the third person did impressive? Did they put in as much effort as the other two challengers? Can the third person truly claim they've put in hard work and stand side-by-side with them?
@AlexReynard
@AlexReynard 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, there's plenty of people who just put in text and have the AI make an image. Same as there's people who take crappy selfies, but that doesn't discredit the art of photography, just because anyone can do it poorly. But also, you do know there's people who have ideas for art but can't make their hands do the work, right? If AI lets someone with Parkinson's, or partial blindness, or a missing hand, bring out the images they see in their head, then I stop caring about whether they put in the same work as some master draftsman.
@Ze_Ze_Ze
@Ze_Ze_Ze 10 ай бұрын
​@@AlexReynard ​Never said anything about people with disabilities in my comment. If someone with a disability uses AI to generated approximations of images in their mind, that's perfectly fine. It becomes a problem *if* they say they're an "artist". That was the point of my comment-someone claiming to be something they aren't (Shad claiming he's an "artist", like the third marathon runner "finished" the marathon). Regardless, I'd urge people with disabilities to try and overcome them than rely on AI. There are real artists with Parkinson's or missing hands worth checking out. To name a few: Norman Greenstein (Parkinson's), Henry Fraser, (paralysis, paints with his mouth), and Linda Riveros (born with no arms, paints with her feet).
@holysword876
@holysword876 9 ай бұрын
This video is absolutely wild. Its even funnier when I found out Jazza is his brother lmao. Its like a school nurse saying doctors are overrated and guess what? WebMD can do a doctors job so much better all you need to do is input all the symptoms.
@thepit7868
@thepit7868 10 ай бұрын
Oh geez this is so hard *opens image generator I hope this won't take me weeks to do *types prompt This is taking so much outta me *edits prompt My hands are aching so much *adds new line to prompt The struggles of being an artist is so hard *edits prompt again
@DiegoMorales-wn1jp
@DiegoMorales-wn1jp 4 ай бұрын
I once designed an entire website by asking an intern to change the style of my university's website until I liked it. Artists like us are so misunderstood and discriminated against.
@melaniesyntyche350
@melaniesyntyche350 8 ай бұрын
I remember this one time I was browsing on pinterest and came across this beautiful piece of art. I distinctly remember my heart sinking when I read in the description that it was AI-generated. As an artist who has poured almost all of my live into my passion, it's really disheartening seeing people unwilling to put in the same kind of effort into what they claim to love.
@jenispizz2556
@jenispizz2556 8 ай бұрын
Yeah... It's like the lamest possible timeline. I'm an okay artist who spends A LOT of time making each piece. It's disheartening to know I can pour dozens of hours into a single piece and someone can merely take it and instruct an AI to "make improvements" in some facet. A few minutes of iterating and boom, it's a version of my art that's better than mine. It's not like I make art for a profit or for an audience. I make it as a form of self-expression. Some of my works are my favorite pieces of art, but this rapid iteration stuff cheapens that for me for some reason. I dunno, it just feels bad. If I wanted to pick up art today, I would have certainly given up at the beginning.
@Gruftkriecher
@Gruftkriecher 8 ай бұрын
This shite to me is nothing else than comission by proxy. Taking the combined work and effort of people without compensating them while simultanously saturating the market they depend on. AI can be a great tool for many things but it´s wide implementation has frustrating consequences for many. Seeing people then calling themself "artists" because they comissioned their work to an algorithm leeching of the skills of real people sucks.
@zjaeriqsanders1731
@zjaeriqsanders1731 7 ай бұрын
@@jenispizz2556that is not how AI art works. Like at all
@zjaeriqsanders1731
@zjaeriqsanders1731 7 ай бұрын
@@Gruftkriechernot how ai art works
@jenispizz2556
@jenispizz2556 7 ай бұрын
@@zjaeriqsanders1731 Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. What I described is not a common implementation of AI art, but is completely possible with current tech and will only become more proliferated. That's the lame future I envision.
@dmaa88
@dmaa88 10 ай бұрын
This is even more insane than what other creators made it out to be.
@Murkshadow
@Murkshadow 11 ай бұрын
When painting, you pick a light source and shade according to the direction. If you have a sunset/sunrise in the background, the character would be masked with a soft warm shadow and have an orange light contour. You can see this on the clouds, as they are mostly dark and the edges of the clouds are lit up by where the sunlight hits the shape. You can obviously look at the leg's direct light with the sun behind her and recognize, that's probably the only source of light available up here, and it's somehow hitting the front despite being behind her. The problem with your approach is that by skipping some of the essential steps in learning how to paint, you don't know how to recognize and see these mistakes, as you haven't taken the time to sit down and question where and how you should add light and shadow in a painting. There's no denying that you can produce some incredible looking pieces and AI makes for a powerful tool in the hands of a skilled artist, but you have to acknowledge the main issue with AI to create good artwork, which is the lack of consistency that creates distortion. And while I understand the criticism against AI is unfairly harsh, you can also see the reason why in this video---it's efficiency without proficiency.
@tbc1880
@tbc1880 11 ай бұрын
To me AI art is just calarts 2.0 if you have calarts AI art will make it just as bad if not worse.
@knoepfler34
@knoepfler34 11 ай бұрын
Hey, i just wanted to say that I like you're answer because it is reasonable and balanced.
@5ilver42
@5ilver42 11 ай бұрын
Bounce light from the white clouds maybe?
@grumbel45
@grumbel45 11 ай бұрын
The amount of distortion in AI art dramatically shrinks with every new model. A year ago DALLE2 struggled to produce any humans at all without messing up all the details, these days you can produce images within seconds that are indistinguishable from a real photo. DALLE3 also comes along with drastically improved language understanding, letting it generate even complex scenes that used to be impossible previously. I'd go so far to say that AI art already has surpassed the vast majority of human artists, by a good margin no less. And it happens to be 1000x as quick as them. Finding tiny little mistakes might help humans not feel completely obsolete yet, but if you'd look at human art with that same level of scrutiny, the majority of it wouldn't pass either. The difference is that AI art is still getting better at rapid pace while humans are kind of stuck in their humanity.
@chillycharizard5985
@chillycharizard5985 11 ай бұрын
This is a very interesting criticism since it is directed towards *his* artistic knowledge or lack thereof in certain aspects, not a criticism of his process or the validity of using AI as a tool, because if he had such knowledge, he would apply it to his tools.
@saber8501
@saber8501 11 ай бұрын
Bro applied his artistic talent of not knowing wtf is light source to make some mid looking picture. Is your helmet not a bit tight, sir?
@Cpl.Weekend
@Cpl.Weekend 11 ай бұрын
“The artistic eye” - Shad, for 20th time
@clinch4402
@clinch4402 11 ай бұрын
What's even funnier is that he doesn't have one
@samankucher5117
@samankucher5117 11 ай бұрын
lol he is trying to make ot a thing.
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 11 ай бұрын
For the 20th time, while not addressing the light source in front of her while the sun is in the back
@Cpl.Weekend
@Cpl.Weekend 11 ай бұрын
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 I thought I was the only one that noticed that! I haven’t seen any other comments addressing that
@Imaklez
@Imaklez 11 ай бұрын
Her head is also colossal in comparison to the rest of her body
@SystemBD
@SystemBD 9 ай бұрын
Interesting... This is more Human-assisted AI art rather than AI-assisted Human art, but the line is getting blurrier. Nevertheless, these results do not involve enough effort to be so proud of it and much less to call this art your own. Being able to direct the AI and correct some mistakes is the work of a producer/director/client, not that of an artist.
@kamataros5172
@kamataros5172 8 ай бұрын
Very well said. Usually, a commissioned artist gets these kinds of responses because their drawing isn't exactly how the client envisions the art. The difference is that the AI is particularly shit and needs an insane amount of additional info.
@joeblogs6598
@joeblogs6598 5 ай бұрын
@SystemBD "these results do not involve enough effort to be so proud of it" "much less to call this art your own." By whom? The Fuhrer?
@joeblogs6598
@joeblogs6598 5 ай бұрын
@@kamataros5172 "needs an insane amount of additional info." Which the person wielding the tool of AI is tasked to input. Hence the term artist.
@kamataros5172
@kamataros5172 5 ай бұрын
@joeblogs6598 that doesn't make any sense. At which point does one become an artist? When i miscommunicate with my commision artist for 246 times, and we just go back and forth until I'm happy, I'm still just the client. But when we get to iteration 247 I'm suddenly the artist myself and the person actually drawing is just a tool. It's also very rational of you to involve hitler. Cope harder about being unable to produce art. But don't fret, it's not too late. You can still go to the store and buy a pencil and paper and start learning! You might even enjoy making something on your own!
@joeblogs6598
@joeblogs6598 5 ай бұрын
@@kamataros5172 "At which point does one become an artist?" You tell me, as you clearly believe there is an objective measure. To me it's clear using AI to create art makes you an artist, because you're making art. It's a tool like any other.
@Truth_chan_studio
@Truth_chan_studio 10 ай бұрын
Imagine having a friend like Jazza and calling AI bs an art 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@Kramswodahs
@Kramswodahs 10 ай бұрын
Jazza is his brother which makes it even more insulting
@aelion7761
@aelion7761 9 ай бұрын
I though the dude was all about historical weapons, why is he shilling for ai art lol. I mean he claims he is a good artist but, his art skills are just basic.
@CountFagula827
@CountFagula827 9 ай бұрын
​@@aelion7761he is tilted because his brother its a real artist an he is not good
@AnthonyKopah
@AnthonyKopah 9 ай бұрын
Holy shit, knowing that makes sense of everything now. He’s obviously trying to deal with the fact that his brother received all the good genes. It probably makes it even worse that even now as an adult he has to live in Jazza’s shadow on KZbin. 😂
@JadeArcade
@JadeArcade 9 ай бұрын
Well, unfortunately, Jazza has made quite a few videos promoting AI, one with Shad on this channel, while they both gush over the whole thing.
@Bitonyi
@Bitonyi 11 ай бұрын
My man needs some treatment for narcissism
@traashghost
@traashghost 10 ай бұрын
Can I just say, honestly, what an incredible gift you have. You truly have such a keen artistic eye for the written prompt. I can only imagine the amount of years of pure dedication, patience, and discipline it must’ve taken you to get to where you are today - one doesn’t simply write prompts the way you do overnight (that would be nice wouldn't it?). Your ability to think up words in your head and bring them to your two index fingers and out onto the keyboard is second to none (I don’t even care that you sometimes misspell words or accidentally include the same word twice, was Rembrandt perfect?). I think we can all agree that you are without question an Artificial Artist of the highest caliber and I hope one day I'll be as skilled as you (a boy can dream). Also, great job Stable Diffusion on the artwork!
@riardomilos8014
@riardomilos8014 10 ай бұрын
This is a sarcasm on a whole nother level
@agent1798
@agent1798 9 ай бұрын
Cope harder, The skill of using ai can be used to free time and money so that you can spend that time on things that actually matter in the long run, Shad wouldn't've been as successful as he is by spending his life on a few skills, only poor unsuccessful people main a few skills with little or no adaptation .The average successful person knows how to monetize their own skills and adapt to the marketplace and the most successful people learn how to leverage skills overall and make them better, just because all these artists getting out of a job when its one of the MOST fluid forms of employment shows how inept they are in life.
@wostin
@wostin 4 ай бұрын
@@agent1798 Money really ru(i)ns us doesn't it? The thing is, he is making himself to be an "artist", not a prompter hobbyist. Is like calling yourself a mathematician after learning to use a calculator, but not any mathematics at all.
@CaptainStahlnippel
@CaptainStahlnippel Ай бұрын
That's like ordering food online and saying, i'm a chef now and the delivery service is just one of my kitchen tools 😂
@avivastudios2311
@avivastudios2311 10 ай бұрын
You used Stable Diffusion to put your wife's face on a picture of Supergirl. What do you want, a cookie? This is sorta educational and helps explain how Stable Diffusion works a bit but it doesn't make you an artist. You should put time and effort into becoming better at drawing on paper. Your old drawings will look so much better with practice. Don't give up. Put the AI tools away.
@lacroustillenecroustillepl2637
@lacroustillenecroustillepl2637 9 ай бұрын
bro has a a begining of a quite unique art style and decide to ruin it all for the sake of hyperrealistic AI plastic dolls
@LutraLovegood
@LutraLovegood 2 ай бұрын
There are more people drawing the way he does than people who can do art similar to these realistic renders (they're not hyperrealist, that's its own style and movement).
@redsolocup-c8z
@redsolocup-c8z 3 ай бұрын
"i have a keen eye for detail" there are three suns 💀
@kirtrex
@kirtrex 3 ай бұрын
Proud of you for not having the skills to carry out your artistic vision and using a computer program to plagiarize people with actual skill ❤
@teddyharvester
@teddyharvester 11 ай бұрын
"Because I know how to create feet..." Tarantino has entered the chat
@Scottymation
@Scottymation 11 ай бұрын
Apparently he thinks all feet are hobbled.
@eddiej.l.christian6754
@eddiej.l.christian6754 10 ай бұрын
As an artist of 40 years, I wanted to let you know that your drawing skills may be a 1.5 out of 10 at best. And this is why you are getting grief. People see you using AI as a Crutch instead of a Tool.
@massimo4307
@massimo4307 9 ай бұрын
Kinda like how photographers are just failed painters, right?
@samuelreed1195
@samuelreed1195 9 ай бұрын
@@massimo4307why do you hate phtogrpaheds
@massimo4307
@massimo4307 9 ай бұрын
@@samuelreed1195 Seems like people hate AI artists for some reason, and I'm simply pointing out how moronic they are for doing so.
@samuelreed1195
@samuelreed1195 9 ай бұрын
@@massimo4307 they probably y hate them for calling themselves artist when the majority of the work is being done by the computer
@eddiej.l.christian6754
@eddiej.l.christian6754 9 ай бұрын
@@samuelreed1195 The funny thing is I remember a time that all Artists were not lumped together. A singer was a Singer, a photographer was a Photographer Etc.. But they got lumped together over funding for the arts, as it was getting reduced over time.
@SoundEngraver
@SoundEngraver 11 ай бұрын
The one concern I have with AI art is homogeneity. Every AI piece looks like AI. If this doesn’t matter to people, that’s one thing. But the result, however good it looks, removes variance (which can only be achieved by human individuals).
@boysteacher3818
@boysteacher3818 11 ай бұрын
I think its due to the fact these works are made by a lot of people using the same model and embeddings/loras. There will definitely be a lot variance if everyone is force to build their own custom models but a majority would prolly look shitty.
@nefariouswatcher
@nefariouswatcher 11 ай бұрын
It's hilarious to me that AI is cannibalizing at this point. It takes indiscriminately from images online > saturates the internet with AI-generated images > takes AI images as basis for more AI images. They embed their mistakes and what makes them look like AI garbage more and more, making them more uncanny.
@Chociewitka
@Chociewitka 11 ай бұрын
? I have trouble to get two similar results, e.g. I have two people who each have different eye colours in the picture, when I want to get the details of the cloths changed it changes me the eye colours too to align both persons together and the other details I was content with evolve too - I have trouble to keep the look consistent - so I do not get your problem here?
@mrrooter601
@mrrooter601 11 ай бұрын
@@boysteacher3818 it is INCREIBLY easy to train a lora for a totally different style, at least with our current local models. takes a few hours to overnight depending on model/hardware + time sourcing and tagging images. Most people dont take the time, since it still requires a basic understanding of what you are doing. Also gotta love the OP "Every AI piece looks like AI." (except the ones that are too good to notice) Of course the response will be, WELL I CAN ALWAYS TELL. I doubt it, but please by all means continue with the confirmation bias.
@SoundEngraver
@SoundEngraver 11 ай бұрын
@@Chociewitka I'm talking about the style, not the content involved.
@RYNOCIRATOR_V5
@RYNOCIRATOR_V5 8 ай бұрын
Shad I've been watching you for years, I love your content... I never knew you had a complex like this. Please talk to your brother and/or get some help, this isn't healthy, lying to yourself like this.
@AlvoriaGPM
@AlvoriaGPM 11 ай бұрын
Shad, I don't think you truly understand just how much some corporations genuinely loathe having to work with "creatives". People with money have long been looking for ways to reduce or eliminate the humans under them. The idea that someone else profits from their ventures is repugnant to many of them. So long as they can sell what they think is a marketable product that's all that matters. It's greed, pure and simple. And greed cares not for our ideals. Also... Shad... as you yourself pointed out you're exceptional in this particular method of creating artwork. I don't know if you've heard of the recent controversy with AI art in the D&D book "Bigby Presents: Glory of the Giants". Though done by a professional artist, there was still a lot of obvious tells like wolves having hands and humanoids having crooked hands and feet. Stuff that you clearly would have caught and corrected. But "professionals" are not held to your standards. That's a problem. So yes. I'm still afraid of AI art. Not because it's not a great tool for legitimate artists to use. I'm not disagreeing with you at all on that. I'm terrified of it because of how it will be used to either cut out creatives, or else to allow "professional artists" of abysmal quality to thrive because they're willing to sacrifice their integrity to do things on the cheap. Call me ignorant all you want. Just pray that history proves me wrong and you right. EDIT: Wow. The comments on this one are real winners. NOT! So many misanthropes worshiping the almighty dollar. Kinda sad that they don't realize that AI will eventually replace all of their jobs too. Possibly within their own lifetimes! Oh well. Hopefully none of us will have to live in that dystopia.
@The_Novu
@The_Novu 11 ай бұрын
Considering how whiny and entitled a lot of you are I wouldn't want to either.
@62sy
@62sy 11 ай бұрын
and? People want to make money… that’s what artists work for, no? That’s what they are paid for, right? Work? That work merely becomes unnecessary when AI can do better, faster and cheaper. Ai art is just superior. And it will replace artists. That’s just a fact.
@_piranha
@_piranha 11 ай бұрын
​@@62syDid you even read what OP typed.
@APerson-ws4cw
@APerson-ws4cw 11 ай бұрын
@@The_Novu Every AI bro I've ever met has been a worse person than even the worst artists.
@APerson-ws4cw
@APerson-ws4cw 11 ай бұрын
@@62sy It's really not, both in terms of costs on a larger scale, copyright, accuracy, consistency, readability in a lot of cases, sustainability (yeah good luck getting artists to keep drawing so you can steal their art if you make them obselete), and quality.
@atlanta2076
@atlanta2076 8 ай бұрын
As an actual artist, I find this video veeery interesting. So you accuse the writers of the new MCU stuff of being hacks without realizing that they're being hacks (and rightfully so) but then you turn out to be a hack yourself who just doesn't realize it. Interesting indeed.
@bingolos9063
@bingolos9063 10 ай бұрын
Im something of a Particle Physicist myself, because i use the 30 dollar website to build my particle accelerator. Based on shad's logic
@buckethead60
@buckethead60 Ай бұрын
he really opened with a long winded explanation of why he thinks the destination is better than the journey
@matthewharbin7566
@matthewharbin7566 8 ай бұрын
I truly cannot fathom why anyone cares what a computer thinks is good art. The art you actually made was stylized and actually interesting. The "art" that the computer made was some of the most boring, sterile shit I've ever seen
@Strange9952
@Strange9952 8 ай бұрын
It's not what the computer "thinks" is good art, you don't understand what AI is if you think it has a "mind" that's not how it works
@matthewharbin7566
@matthewharbin7566 8 ай бұрын
@@Strange9952 Ignoring how pedantic you're being with semantics, the fact that it doesn't have a "mind" is exactly why ai art is shit lmao
@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel
@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel 7 ай бұрын
12:40 "My AI generated images have a particular look to them" They literally look like every other AI generated image of this model.
@QuintoTubo
@QuintoTubo 4 ай бұрын
For real
@RuriRurouni
@RuriRurouni 5 ай бұрын
I wonder if the AI-generated books that sell better than his novel would get the same response from him.
@AveragePicker
@AveragePicker 5 ай бұрын
To be fair...I've read better AI generated stories than his novel. If nothing else AI generated works have less spelling and grammar mistakes.
@rockoman100
@rockoman100 5 ай бұрын
Pretty much all authors use AI-assisted tools when writing nowadays.
@AveragePicker
@AveragePicker 5 ай бұрын
@rockoman100 Unless you are counting spellchecker...no they aren't. But if you have a source to cite for that claim 🤷‍♂️ cite it. I do editing and writing courses and couldn't name you a single one that I'm aware of. The only exceptions I can think of does not come close to covering "pretty much all authors." It's more like the person with little experience asked to crank out an employee handbook for some business.
@RuriRurouni
@RuriRurouni 5 ай бұрын
@@rockoman100 Not in the way Shad is using AI to create the image in this video. The equivalent for prose would be having the AI generate a short story or novel, tweaking a few things about it, having it regenerate, tweaking a few more words, etc. Writers do not write that way, and no writer would call that writing, either.
@metakarukenshi
@metakarukenshi 9 ай бұрын
a common argument for AI you see is "oh artists hated photos when they were made and thought they would lose their jobs" the issue with this argument is, Cameras gave rise to a new form of artistic expression called photography, that makes use of many of the skills artists use and some others. Composition, depth of field, lighting etc. so yes cameras replaced portrait artits for a time, but after a bit people realised that there was a level of human soul in a painting that camera couldnt capture. making drawing/painting distinct from Photography Ai images (I will no call it art) does not. there is no new skill to learn with AI it is a glorified google image search, it is a lazy crutch and an excuse to not learn a new skill. plain and simple laziness. as a tool for ai is great, it can churn out 100s of iterations of an idea that an artist can use a reference to make something amazing. but it should never be used for money in any capacity. to AI bros out there. grow a back bone and try. let yourself fail a few times, you will learn a new skill from it.
@massimo4307
@massimo4307 9 ай бұрын
Just admit a machine can make images 100 times better than you and people won't be wasting their money on your useless skill now that computers can do what you do. Also, you trying to debunk the photography analogy didn't work. AI art also requires knowledge of composition and lighting, along with the underlying settings of the model, the same way the camera has settings. Sorry bud, AI art is art. Tough luck. Learn to code.
@metakarukenshi
@metakarukenshi 9 ай бұрын
@@massimo4307 it’s incredible how wrong you are. Ai images routinely generate inaccurate garbage that it can only generate by using stolen artwork. Take out all images form the ai database that were but their without the artists consent and your ai will struggle to even churn out a shitty anime portrait.
@samuelreed1195
@samuelreed1195 9 ай бұрын
I want to be friend with you
@massimo4307
@massimo4307 9 ай бұрын
@@metakarukenshi Artists also create garbage. What's your point? No image was stolen, all images that the AI was trained on were from the internet and therefore viewable by anyone. Learning to draw using someone else's art as a reference isn't theft, and it's not theft when a machine does it. Go learn how AI works before spouting off nonsense.
@samuelreed1195
@samuelreed1195 9 ай бұрын
@@massimo4307no it doesn’t he even proves that in the video he didn’t make an parameters on composition or lighting he did however specify model shoot but that is a strange parameter that doesn’t make sense but idk also it doesn’t require skill. You said that you need certain levels of artistry to create these images but you don’t you can create a really shallow and bad prompt and get basically the same results as higher level prompts meaning it really doesn’t matter how good your prompt is or not if the result is the same so the argument saying that it requires skills is invalid
@ntz752
@ntz752 11 ай бұрын
This guy's brain turned into ai slop
@bealotcoolerifyoudid7217
@bealotcoolerifyoudid7217 5 ай бұрын
You are the most self congratulatory guy I have seen.
@doggosuki
@doggosuki 9 ай бұрын
you reaaaally love patting yourself on the back
@fiel81
@fiel81 4 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking
@minnicle
@minnicle 6 ай бұрын
i customised my mcdonalds order to not have pickles in my cheeseburger. i am chef
@Spadean
@Spadean 9 ай бұрын
so i work at a local comic book company and if the president who doesn't do the illustrations tells me what to draw, my work is basically their work? huh....
@Fr0st1989
@Fr0st1989 9 ай бұрын
essentially saying "I'm a chef because I ordered Dominoes"
@Tysto
@Tysto 8 ай бұрын
"You have to know exactly what words to say to get the exact type of pizza with the exact toppings you want, and only someone with a chef's eye, like me, can do that."
@TOMFOOLERY334
@TOMFOOLERY334 8 ай бұрын
​​@@Tysto I technically made the pizza since I added my own toppings, not just any toppings but toppings only someone with a chef's eye can master.
@amazinggrapes3045
@amazinggrapes3045 7 ай бұрын
​@@Tystook say make an AI picture that actually comes out looking exactly like you want, since it's apparently so easy Or order the pizza from someone whose language you don't know, for a task of equivalent difficulty
@Dead_Goat
@Dead_Goat 3 ай бұрын
@@amazinggrapes3045 A pizza from a place that doesn't know what a pizza is.
@fuckyouyoutube7921
@fuckyouyoutube7921 10 ай бұрын
Also feel so sorry for jazza to deal with you in that one broadcasted session.
@croutendo2050
@croutendo2050 10 ай бұрын
Ooh which one? That sounds entertaining
@fuckyouyoutube7921
@fuckyouyoutube7921 10 ай бұрын
its them playing an RP thing. the title of the clip is minor evidence to shadiversity being protective of his status as an artist.... the way he goes off on a tangent about him being a pro is just giga chad insecure energy. jazza seems so confused when it came out of nowhere and he then basically says "yes of course you are" cause he wouldnt shut up about it... jazza even says at the end of it "my god this is awkward" its HILARIOUS @@croutendo2050
@dent638
@dent638 8 ай бұрын
Did chat gpt write this fuckin video or something?
@HankAntiGachaGaming
@HankAntiGachaGaming 8 ай бұрын
is bro dumb
@WiiFan20XX
@WiiFan20XX 11 ай бұрын
"I've developed a very keen eye for proportion and detail" Shows a picture of some dude whos feet are twice the sive of his head
@blackdeath4eternity
@blackdeath4eternity 11 ай бұрын
there are allot of artistic styles that are like that so i'm not so sure id count it against him.
@spacebook8923
@spacebook8923 11 ай бұрын
@@blackdeath4eternity then why would he type perfect proportions into the prompt? Clearly he doesn’t want anatomical inaccuracies
@benjamingomez1761
@benjamingomez1761 10 ай бұрын
​@@blackdeath4eternityhe was going for realism so yeah, hack with no talent
@DwAboutItManFr
@DwAboutItManFr 11 ай бұрын
You ignored the sun behind, and the weird parts of the boots near the knee, and the pattern symmetry... and the size of the head, the right hand seems disconnected but sounds like all this can be fixed...
@potatosirmeow3972
@potatosirmeow3972 10 ай бұрын
There's a difference between Hand written letters, Typing it by keyboard and using ChatGpt.
@agent1798
@agent1798 9 ай бұрын
yeah 1 is super slow, takes wordsmith skill. Wastes paper and Ink(not instantaneous) One is digital takes typing and wordsmith skill and is sent instantly with little resource. Another one uses prompts that can ether improve your own words or create them up with random efficiencies that is much more convenient, doesnt have to waste time contacting writers(no wordsmith skills required) spending money, and instead invest that time and money into stuff that you can be good at without being a "skilled" writer.
@DownBelowNagrind
@DownBelowNagrind 8 ай бұрын
@@agent1798 this comment is so incomprehensible I have to assume it was written by chatgpt
@darkithnamgedrf9495
@darkithnamgedrf9495 8 ай бұрын
@@agent1798 Bro really said "wordsmith skills"
Essential sword safety rules that everyone should know
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