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[@mikerochburns4104]

Twitter not shodow banning is like saying lootboxes are just surprise machanics.

[@Riclaval]

at least it doesn't get drowned and forgotten like Panama Papers

[@TheJarhead2102]

Great minds think alike 😆

[@vanconojl]

"shodow" xD

[@douglasmurdoch7247]

This typo of mechanics means you’re probably mispronouncing the word too. It’s meh-kan-iks, but you’re probably saying muh-kan-iks.

[@mikerochburns4104]

@@douglasmurdoch7247 Or simply too drunk to do the combination of: put my glasses on and illuminate my keyboard.

[@Amplifymagic]

Asmon has covered more news on this subject by reacting to this than all of mainstream media combined.

[@IIIRIPTERIII]

Cause he knows his dumb audience will fall for this trash

[@kingbirdIII]

if this was twitter a year ago, you'd be shadowbanned.

[@anti-rioter-15]

Bro, KZbin shadow bans as well, it’s called “hiding”, and you can actually go read up about it in their fine print. Also, they actively turn off notifications

[@watcherxd]

@@Evadann found the tribalist andy

[@Cbmountain42]

@@Evadann A liberal saying conservatives have a victim complex is rich lolol. Liberals entire identity is victim hood. Oh I'm so oppressed.

[@etherealpenguin8683]

I've noticed Facebook does what I call shadow unbanning (or unblocking rather) I started blocking gambling pages that were advertised to me constantly so they didn't appear anymore, but after a while I noticed certain gambling ads from certain companies were still coming through, sure enough they were no longer on my block list, and this would happen multiple times.

[@NadDew]

it's absolutely your fault! who use Facebook these days 🤔

[@SuperOrnny]

@@NadDew just a couple billion people, 90%of them being in a wheelchair i presume👴

[@nope3926]

@@NadDew Facebook is unfortunately the main social media platform used here in Southeast Asia, so even if I want to stop using it I can't because most communications (jobs, college, etc.) center around here

[@kenbobcorn]

It may seem that way, but the reality is the advertisements are probably classifying themselves as non gambling content, in effect trying avoid your filter in order to increase exposure. If you are familiar with recommender systems, which I am, and the technology, you would know it's pages trying to circumvent simple filtering rules by perhaps changing their classification.

[@pmcfearson9453]

They also reset my privacy settings. Weird.

[@Matwho]

Before twitter files, "shadowbans dont exist you conspiracy nuts!" After twitter files, "why does this matter?!"

[@stephsman51]

Rinse and repeat with ANY scandle involving one particular party

[@Matwho]

@@stephsman51 I wish we remembered this more often, it's not a party problem, it's a politicians with power problem.

[@Josh.C88]

Both parties are fucking shit. But the left is also insane and the fact that Elon has done more to prevent child exploitation in like a week than twitter did in 10 years is very telling to the old twitter upper management. They should be jailed for that, having victims and families of victims come to them and twitter just be like well it's not breaking any rules so nothing we can do. Then they ban conservatives and the actual fucking president. Just disgusting people, every one of them

[@theworstcatholic7247]

@@Matwho And currently one party does this crap more often due to the extreme majority of power they hold in media and the tech industry. I'm not saying both parties wouldn't or don't do it at all. But this is like arguing that religious right weren't the one's most hardcore against things like free-speech in the 80s. The parties in power swapped, so the radicals of the other side has the most power to @buse.

[@yunoyukki7344]

@@Matwho yea politicians loves to put their shit in a mass grave when its been uncover in their back yard

[@8bloppy8]

Not hard to define "Shadow banning is a practice used in online moderation that consists of preventing a user’s content from being seen by others-either partially or totally-without the user being notified or aware of it."

[@charlesg7926]

I would take out the word aware. Even if people are aware of it, or suspected, there needs to be direct notification from the platform/publisher that they are actively shadow banning.

[@8bloppy8]

@@charlesg7926 Agree. imo. In this context aware means informed by the platform.

[@CyberneticArgumentCreator]

They even said basically that, then frantically used pilpul to pretend it wasn't what they were doing -- but it very very clearly was. "We didn't shadowban because we renamed it deboosting!" "I didn't murder that man, I just eliminated future social security liabilities!"

[@theredscourge]

19:49 There ARE actually a few instances in history where someone with massive power and was unaccountable to anyone behaved well, just not many. The first I know of was when Cincinnatus was made temporary dictator during wartime to save Rome, and then voluntarily abdicated that power once the crisis was resolved and retired to his farm. You could argue that George Washington right after his success with the war of independence could have held on to power until he died, but he decided that two terms was enough and retired to his farm as well. However, such instances are SO rare that the people who manage to do so become legend. Cincinnatus was so revered that even the US named a city after him - Cincinnati. Washington was so revered that two terms became an unwritten rule, only broken during WWII by FDR, and then the two term limit was written into law in 1951.

[@imran8880]

They are like the great warriors trained to defeat the dragon but aware that they are not fit to sit on the throne afterwards and embrace the simple pleasures of life

[@idealicfool]

Let's not forget Gorbachev either.

[@pietroparato8080]

Imagine a war in which the majority of one side didn't know they were at war, ridiculed those that did, and were blindly obedient to their enemy.

[@zach8019]

In this case the other side know there is a war but can unfortunately do nothing about it. All these trials and subpoenas that will come from congress will amount to nothing. The mainstream left media (99% of all media and platforms) won't show any of it and if you don't watch fox news or right wing channels chances are you would never know its happening. Sadly with people in there own echo Chambers e.g. fans of TYT, Hassan and Phil defranco, Ethan klien to name a few all pretending that it's a nothing 🍔 and giving maybe one short video worth of coverage like they did the first twitter files dropped.

[@kaesi6118]

class war

[@Turambar_499]

Congrats comrade, you've just stumbled your way into Marxism

[@mrfreeman2911]

@@SeasoningTheObese Orville was a socialist/communist, saw them "win" and saw the horrors of said victory.

[@Miraclelnvoker]

@@mrfreeman2911 Yes, it only cost tens of millions dead for their "win". Then after the communist took power they became even more brazen adding to the dead numbers again totalling to a hundred million dead surpassing even the Nazis and Imperial Japanese when it comes to atrocities. I guess Orwell's guilt took over him for what they had done.

[@hexaquras9374]

the day Asmon gets sponsored by Keeps is the day I will truly believe it works

[@JDubsCCGsOnline]

It doesn't regrow hair outside of special cases. It just prevents you from losing it in the first place. You can find basically the same stuff they sell at a local CVS. (usually hair products with kerotin and certain vitamins)

[@DadsCigaretteRun]

It works pretty well for what it is (I use it) but it is expensive and you have be to EXTREMELY consistent

[@AlexanderTheGoodEnough]

if Keeps rebrands or opens a new product line called "Kept" then i'm game. I'm 37 and if that shit hasn't started falling out then its staying.

[@pyrojkl]

@@JDubsCCGsOnline so what your saying is if i just watch a YT video how to take care of my hair and cheap "shampoo/conditioners" that help is all i need?

[@TheZeagon]

@@AlexanderTheGoodEnough who asked

[@kingsmanlad4147]

I think this is huge. There are people who have been driven insane because no one believed them. They were shunned by family members as their conspiracies evolved because everyone kept telling them they were wrong. Now we are at a point where even if you see something you don’t believe it. This is important because it has destroyed public trust and drove a massive gap in society

[@lunastarpatches]

Exactly!

[@ChosenPlaysYT]

This is true and sad. So many people were demonized as monsters, lost family connections, ostracized by friends, etc and they were right the whole time.

[@queenbean7071]

@@ChosenPlaysYT I still feel that's a bit of a jump. This is talling about access to information, this says nothing about the actual content of the people's views

[@ChosenPlaysYT]

@@queenbean7071 That’s mostly true, but people were gaslit as crazy conspiracy theorists about the insane hypocrisy of these platforms whenever they tried to point it out. No one ever wanted to discuss it or listen, just called them right wing nutjobs, but they were right, they were just stating the truth. Some people actually STILL defend the Hunter Biden story being censored, that’s how crazy it made people. Even in the presence of all facts, they refuse to ever look at them.

[@queenbean7071]

@@ChosenPlaysYT I don't get why it was censored but I'm still convinced whatever was on that laptop isn't something completely world breaking or on the same level as for example, stealing classified documents but alas

[@joaoteixeira8349]

i like Asmongold's face of sudden interest in Keeps when it states you don't need to leave home to get the hair loss treatment

[@h3rmzi]

as im reading this comment it played out in real time for me hahaha around @9:00 mark

[@tinamclennan]

Several independent reporters had entire Discord servers deleted because tptb didnt want the info reported. Its not just twitter or media softwares. Its any company these despots call and demand them to shut peoples voices off to control the info.

[@ChosenPlaysYT]

Anyone who is just now finding out Twitter was insanely unfair and biased is a lost soul and I hope they can learn to start thinking for themselves.

[@tangomcphearson74]

100%

[@9inchsradius]

The people asking what’s the problem just haven’t had their viewpoints deleted from public discourse yet.

[@thareus20]

When you think about it, many of the social problems arise by people being unable to put themselves in others' shoes. This goes both ways.

[@Cerenduil]

Exactly, they are the ones beeing protected cuz they have "the only reason and appropiate ideology".

[@Clone895]

It's truly sad. One of my college roommates thought I was a terrible person for supporting freedom of speech... It still amazes me that someone could hold such an entitled position while pretending to have the moral high-ground

[@Miraclelnvoker]

@@Clone895 I feel you. I just keep silent when in college because i have different opinions. All of them seem far-left even to the point of violence in their rallies.

[@flarestorm9417]

When you create a weapon (or a tool that can be used like one) the first question you should ask is if it can be used against you, or otherwise misused for intentions you don't agree with.

[@onijinn6284]

The people that don't understand how social media can sway society are those living in a bunker

[@adriandabarber3996]

Most people think they are using social media and don't realize its actually using them. I deleted and stopped using socials 3 years ago and retaught myself to communicate and rekindle relationships with meaningful people via face to face bonding and sharing meals and love, more talking on the phone/video calls if far away and i send pictures through less invasive messaging apps and i have gained magnitudes of well being i had lost without knowing from using these antisocial media sites. You find out who really loves you when it takes time for them to see you or call you and i have been left with and nurture those golden people that make my life awesome!

[@TacticalDimples]

Yeah.. I’ve seen so much misinformation (from every side) get passed as truths and factual information get passed as misinformation… that’s how insanely powerful it is to have both social media + mainstream media in your pockets.

[@dezmodium]

The US military and CIA understand it. That's why they have entire dvisions dedicated to spreading propaganda there.

[@warzy01]

And they don't understand what facism is...

[@adriandabarber3996]

@@warzy01 most people don't, it's why we have such an extremely large amount of people going around calling people fascist or nazis while acting fascist or nazi themselves. Or basically, hey those guys over there are nazis so we better censor them and abuse them and write laws to make them subhuman and reeducated their kids and teach them blue is green and up is down, so we can all be free spirits like me and my friends here in clowntown 😂

[@seffro3707]

"It's so bad they can kick something off the app store without any accountability at all" Look what they did to Parlor. Same thing

[@bruhbruh2290]

asmon said everyone knew that, but if you said it on twitter you would be called a right wing conspiracy theorist. so no, not everyone knew that.

[@117Ender]

mostly cause ppl who say that are saying the Tfiles are not a big deal, asmon is saying everyone knew it and Tfiles are a big deal. their postions arent the same....

[@joshuatucker2521]

True.. but those people saying that knew it was happening too. They just wanted to gaslight you.

[@MikeSW]

Lefties are well aware of Twitter suppressing conservative voices. They assist in slandering people and fabricating stories to destroy peoples lives. It's their game.

[@ErnestoGrundy]

True

[@bruhbruh2290]

@@joshuatucker2521 again, they would accuse you of gaslighting if you said that on twitter.

[@brennandorsey193]

The reason its relevant they are banning opinions of a certain ideology means they are making editorial decisions of content and should lose their section 230 protection.

[@Arkantos117]

@@tehbeernerd Double digit IQ take.

[@TMKing_MS]

@@doroza2lol The most profound example of their bias is how they exempt major conservative accounts from heavy scrutiny under their terms and conditions, such LibsofTikTok having a "Do Not Ban" without some consideration from a higher up whether or not they broke ToS. 🙄

[@billywashere6965]

And... the reason it's even more relevant is because it affects how people vote.

[@brennandorsey193]

@@billywashere6965 Undisclosed in-kind campaign contribution in violation of campaign finance laws.

[@ericdraccip]

@@brennandorsey193 huh that's strange I've heard the opposite do you have any case law proving your statements are correct.

[@kingbirdIII]

this is the equivalent of referees betting on sports games that they are refereeing themselves.

[@kingbirdIII]

@@Evadann if Twitter was a publisher and didn't benefit as not being a publisher legally and through tax loopholes than I would agree with you. Social media companies are not the same as say Coca-cola. If Coca-cola said hey we are going to stop serving coke to republicans with different view points then they would be hit with all sorts of lawsuits.

[@FIIRdesu]

@@Evadann How much are you getting paid for posting this?

[@Tony-hn8qy]

@@Evadann Low IQ bot spotted.

[@JoshuaGraves113]

@@doroza2lol Some of them seemed genuinely upset that they were ignored and people were banned though. I'd say those people were being professional. It was just the top brass that were extremely biased and unprofessional.

[@AbyssWatcher745]

If a "Private company" Have weekly meetings with federal government agencies and follow their suggestions then they shouldn't be considered a private company

[@Mista_Cassla]

So funny how they said this was a conspiracy for years 😂 Be interesting to see what else comes out

[@dONALDBLOOD]

Regulation is the only thing stopping corporations from doing literally anything with consumers.

[@douglasmurdoch7247]

And that’s why libertarians are wrong and need to stand down to conservatives.

[@karlnord1429]

Ever heard of tort law?

[@cl1489]

@@douglasmurdoch7247 Wrong. Less regulation = more competition, which is far better regulator than corrupt government officials. You're just not connecting the dots lil' fella.

[@programaticLearning]

have you ever heard of civil court or just freedom of choice? Regulation is important but you just made a dummy statement

[@uthergoodman401]

Literally just don't buy their products. Corporations are nothing without us. Vote with your wallet

[@scottro79]

if twitter employee's were almost exclusively donating to one party is it reasonable to think there was some type of political discrimination in their hiring practices?

[@fatjellyfish9478]

There also other variable. Demographics who goes into the tech industry.

[@HotSoggyCheetos]

Conservatives usually don't speak their politics in this environment. There are most likely more right thinking employees that just play along to get along.

[@autisonm]

I'm more concerned about the drop off in donations to the Republicans. Yeah, some of them probably just didnt want to support the Republicans for whatever reason but going from 40%~ of the political donations down to like 5% is suspicious and makes it seem like people with Republican viewpoints were intentionally removed from the company. That's probably the reason why some said they were afraid to express their right leaning opinions in the company.

[@HotSoggyCheetos]

@@autisonm True, or they donated or showed support privately. I don't think that chart was donations from individual employees, it may have been a percentage of twitter corp donations to candidates. By 2018 political climate at twitter was most likely too toxic to show support against the majority.

[@mrmr2488]

Yes, obviously. Considering most Twitter positions were total bloat and hiring useless people who aren't actually essential, what metric do they hire for? Political affiliation.

[@robertfugate2232]

The difference between truth and "conspiracy" is about 2-3 years these days.

[@ChickenSoupMusic]

I couldn’t even have discussions with some lifelong friends about this stuff during the election. They just refused to converse. That, along with how lockdowns were affecting my family along with the constant fear I saw in my local society cause me to move. Best decision ever.

[@Zach-cc4ft]

They refuse to listen to anything and will just claim you're a Trump supporter if you bring anything like that up they don't want to believe, they dismiss everything they don't like by claiming it's somehow Trump or Trump supporters fault or conspiracy. I'm not even a Trump supporter but have been called one 1000 times over the past few years just for questioning things. The anti-Trump cult is stronger than any supposed Trump/MAGA cult they like to constantly mention.

[@wademikunda2118]

Jack Dorsey lied, and that's that.

[@juliankatos8600]

Ahh man I wanted to see the single other comment to yours. Ohh welllll.

[@MT-UK]

This seems huge but I’m hardly seeing it in the media 😂

[@TeslaEmperor]

Just go to the explore tab and then the news tab you won't see one video on the subject.

[@TheOriginal_Unaleska]

Because it IS huge, which is WHY the media is not talking about it.

[@kbowlden94]

I respect you a lot for not even giving that ignorant nazi name calling the time of day. It's insane how that ideology is losing its definition and being casually tossed around.

[@kbowlden94]

@@Murderbits that's called facism or authoritarianism. Not Nazism.

[@chazjackson-ahealthfitness2611]

You highlighting the fact twitter was in contact with the FBI constantly and how big of a deal it is towards the end of the video makes me have a little more faith in you

[@joshuatucker2521]

Clicked on this thinking let's see what his shit take is on this situation

[@shanbannan17]

First it was the IRS then the FBI then twitter think we all can se a patern here they ar fascists

[@Tarbloodkeep]

It is criminal and it is fascism.

[@JacobSnyderTheBr0kenK0rpze33]

@@Tarbloodkeep Benito Mussolini and Gerravaldi Giovanni the fathers of fascism stated. Fascism is the lucrative merger of corporate oligarchy control and influence and central state government interests

[@entelin]

On the topic of VPN's, it depends on what you mean. They have always had the right to get a warrant and get information from any provider ISP, VPN, whatever, there's nothing wrong with that when there is a legitimate process. However much of the debate around VPN and encryption in general have come from demands by the government to have back doors, alternate encryption keys, or legislating a certain maximum strength for consumer encryption. Besides the very real ethical, legal, and constitutional issues of mass data collection without a warrant. Backdoors and weaker encryption are not possible without opening up massive security and trust problems. It's hard enough to secure things without the government intentionally trying to create single points of failure and weaken encryption. I'm fine with not catching a few bad guys, trust me, as a programmer and IT vet, you do not want the alternative.

[@donut132]

With how corporations and governments are right now, if you post the wrong opinion or tell a bad taste joke 10 years ago, you are basically blacklisted and cant be hired - VPN's are a necessity.

[@littlegreenman91]

I agree. Especially since I never got the argument in the first place. If I would be criminally inclined I would just take a few additional steps. Multiple VPNs ,maybe add a socks in-between and top it off with i2p or Tor.. And btw I'm sure that's not an optional solution, but it shouldn't be to hard to Google that ;) In my opinion the only ones who would really suffer are the normal citizens.

[@grawr3534]

Asmon argument is the same logic they used to push the Patriot Act. You need to monitor everyone or the terrorist will get away.

[@DeviousMachineR]

I mean its a big deal because it confirms 1st amendment violations. If a government agency asks a third party to censor legal speech of a us citizen it is a violation of you first amendment, there is no "its a private company" response there.

[@aleksandarstankovic5470]

Technically, the DNC and RNC are NOT government entities. They’re just modern versions of the old voting boss/bloc system and can’t really trigger first amendment issues.

[@DeviousMachineR]

@@aleksandarstankovic5470 I never mentioned those, I was more talking about the FBI

[@Kaleptoediting]

This right here! if we lose our ability to criticize the government, it's over for freedom and the west.

[@luketabat6315]

Social media is basically the modern day town square. That’s why it’s seen as important to politicians

[@yungsofa8084]

its so important even the fbi has insiders and has power to get the hunter biden story censored. i dont know why its taken this long for the mainstream people to understand this is an issue and has been an issue for the last 4-6 years. people needed to wake the fk up and smell the shit.

[@praisesui-tyan]

Town square where the circus and drama theatre plays can be viewed from the front row seats

[@akaku9]

Town square of fuckin Salem lmao

[@ILoveGrilledCheese]

That’s not a good thing….that’s a Terrible thing

[@Turambar_499]

Maybe we shouldn't privatize the town square if it's so important

[@leoncampbell8616]

For those who don't understand how dangerous this is i will explain. Whatever those who are at the top think things should work or think how people should behave( kim Kardashian) it will be done. These folk have the power to kill any business they don't like and also have the power to make anything bad, this shit is terrifying if you truly understand that they can make any lie be true.

[@leoncampbell8616]

@@richardshiflett5181 🤣

[@worldofwarcraftman2]

Here's a good question. What the hell is the guano tab for?

[@worldofwarcraftman2]

@@brandonvoice8941 remember what George Carlin said people are stupid and half of them are even dumber. I've talked to people who still believe that Kyle Rittenhouse shot 3 black people. when one google search shows no he didn't.

[@jeremynicholson6073]

@@brandonvoice8941 youre willfully ignorant if you dont think social media has had an impact on society as a whole

[@JohnJones-yk5qk]

It's WAY worse than you're example , swap your celeb out for government propaganda and you're getting closer

[@Intossicato]

The big issue is the Government is silencing people's 1st admendment rights without due process.

[@BBB-rd2qi]

Wow, never been this early. Regardless of what political affiliation a person is, this is terrifying. What makes it illegal is the US Government controlling private business.

[@IIIRIPTERIII]

@@Evadann exactly! people making this into something when its not, Twitter files is for the SMRT people, yes i said SMRT

[@GreenBeanGreenBean]

@@purplefanta7142 your entire post is 100% trash lying...stop while you are behind

[@vvocky]

I’m always too early 😔

[@Amplifymagic]

How stupid are you to turn this topic into revenge porn? They specifically manipulated social media to win an election. They know exactly how much this laptop from hell would have affected Biden’s campaign.

[@IIIRIPTERIII]

@@purplefanta7142 Who was running the country when this happen.. Trump! so stop, only thing illegal here is wanting to make someones private life public

[@JefOliveira90]

28:50 The gov would be able to use this pretext to spy on their opposition, all they have to do is issue themselves warranties. You cant just give the gov superpowers expecting them to do the right thing; The moment you start acting against their interests, they will use everything they can to silence you.

[@Toquer88]

Not "would be able to.". It's, the government DID do what they were able to.

[@mesasone2280]

I’m calling about your extended warranty

[@gregunyk1225]

Warranties eh? Damn government, always trying to get me to buy an extended warranty!

[@jakemeyers9426]

Yes. The end of the video asmon really went down the same logic pattern a lot of conservatives do that frustrates me. For some reason, the solution to them is oh well just give the government x power so that they can do x ethical thing, but the problem is that the person wielding x power will not necessarily have the same ethics and will most certainly have pressures and incentives to do something else. Don;t forget who issues the warrants because thats another government beaurocrat who needs to be ethically motivated, something that seems to be completely missing from these types. Asmon did exactly what government asshats always do to get some fancy new power.... uhh well if you don't let me spy on you more then bad guy wins. The government knows damn well that scaring people with the baddies is the best way to get new powers so they are literally incentivized to cultivate the worst in society.

[@jaym6834]

@@jakemeyers9426 you think that conservatives sre the ones trying to make the govt bigger and more powerful? Weird

[@chasesteele5161]

to quote the man who invented Fascism, "Fascism is the lucrative merger between corporation and state for the benefit of the state." if you have a law that says, government can't control peoples speech, just get a private corporation to do it, just go around laws.

[@mike4088]

Why isn't this all over the news?

[@robertfugate2232]

Hope youre being sarcastic. Feels like you might be. Because mainstream media doesn't report news. They report what they want people to think.

[@travihuncho]

Where have you been the past 6 years lol

[@carbonstar9091]

The news media are controlled by the same people who did the shadow banning.

[@MrTaylork1]

You think the news channels that are all democrat controlled are going to talk about anything that makes their party look bad?

[@BrandonHeat243]

Because people happily overlook corruption if it benefits them.

[@flymolo20z]

Perfect example of how human beings will always do what they believe or think is in their best interest regardless of the outcomes good or bad down stream.

[@clarkkent6500]

I have one problem with what you said. I think these people are doing for what they “believe” is best for the country. Not themselves. Which makes them more tyrannical and narcissistic. All while saying they are fighting for equality. Pretty ironic.

[@likemysnopp]

lol you dont have to read much history outside of that in school to find out its been that way for well over a thousand years.

[@dinonuggies2276]

Asmon: Talks about how having a lot of power is always bad and will always be abused Also Asmon: the government should always know where you are

[@craigboden9455]

If we can change the definition of things so easily then I'm changing the definition of political assassination to saving the world.

[@thareus20]

People who assume there is any other way except for violence to really overthrow a certain power structure, have not studied history.

[@thareus20]

@@domerame5913 🤣

[@andrewkelley3434]

Upper Echelon Gaming does some great, great work. Good, investigative journalism.

[@pitou2007]

Another coin in the Alex Jar…..

[@NostraDavid2]

@@wowsew survivorship bias. The ones he got right are the ones that people point out.

[@nathanl4083]

Its not a conspiracy, they put it right in the terms of service. So Alex’ jar can stay nice and empty like always

[@wallacerg9udcbldmvuihroaw511]

@@wowsew They don't keep coming true. That you seem to think so indicates you only hear the ones that actually land, when he makes dozens of other insane statements that never actually go anywhere It's like calling yourself a wizard after correctly predicting you'll roll a six on a dice at least once after 30 tries

[@shapeshiftingpedro]

@@NostraDavid2 Explain Jeffery Epstein then. Explain how Gislaine Maxwell can get charged for child trafficking to zero customers.

[@idleeidolon]

"it's not a big deal" ...when your side is in power.

[@zba113]

I wonder why all the Twitter files are only focusing on Republican voices being shadowbanned. Almost like the release of information is being selectively chosen to paint a certain narrative.

[@epidrom]

The real tragedy is that there are really only two political factions in the USA to begin with. It's like the civil war never ended

[@majesticfool]

I remember years ago saying rightwingers will be censored more and more. Got called a conspiracy theorist and lost tons of friends Turns out it was entirely true and my friends still hate me

[@prayingforyou6927]

You said "Every single company, if it is operating at the detriment of the public, should not exist." My parents would agree that content creators like your self should not exist... I would disagree with them but who decides...

[@johntaggart91]

How is he a detriment to society...

[@SirePuns]

It's actually fascinating how vindicated I'm feeling right now.

[@GuitarJester89]

Well, It wouldn't matter if Twitter claimed to be a private company. Because they were literally cooperating with the government in this stuff. Which loses them that private status.

[@cateatingchezburger4267]

So government telling a company to sensor someone isn't suppression of freedom of speech?

[@tygerlillee]

Thanks for covering this.

[@mcrich1978]

5:27 you can say the same about passing laws w/o no real understanding of the subject matter.. like Guns for instance.

[@joshuamitchell5018]

To all the progs who're hanging around to here....A side effect of banning the speech you don't like is that you lose touch with reality yourself. Your own thinking is no longer subject to stress-testing. You can and have spiraled straight into insanity.

[@Billy420-69]

They don't care. They think it's funny and use other people's principles against them and get off on the hypocrisy.

[@crash_hunter8659]

We have to make a difference between the kind of speech. Fake news, conspiracy believes and hate is worthy of getting banned. As extreme example we can look at Trump. His tweets were ridiculous. It’s hard to draw a line, but there has to be one. The main problem is, that social media platforms are run by companies and not by the society. I assume you are from the USA. Your fight between left and right is so insane, that both sides are radicals. It’s not a matter of getting the best viewpoint, it’s about winning. It would be the other way around, when twitter were a mostly conservative company.

[@PastorTristanCornfarmerBlake]

Just because it is a private company and it is not illegal, does not mean it shouldnt be illegal. What happened in the past when companies got too massive? They got regulated. They got busted. We can pass and change laws. The problem is, this also isnt the type of thing you really want Government to regulate. So it's too dangerous for the government to regulate, and it's impossible to run it without bias, so what do we do it with it?

[@TheJarhead2102]

They should've took an EA and said It's not Shadow Banning... Its Surprise Mechanic's 🤣

[@adriandabarber3996]

Deleted my socials around 3 years ago and my life and meaningful relationships have blossomed again.

[@hana_lilly8405]

Twitter has been a cesspool for far too long. Not going to change.

[@JoelEmmettMcGarrity]

Silencing en entire half of the populations beliefs is a problem. I’m amazed how many people are in denial and argue that it’s not.

[@brainache555]

Google does it the most

[@AliceinEntropy]

Asmond when you say "I don't care that people in the company don't feel safe to speak how does that affect users" it affects them by not allowing them to speak against censorship or anything.

[@southernceltic6567]

I don't care how any one tries to spin this, there was an obvious 1st amendment issue, and US Government officials were involved. They need to be removed form office and civil litigation needs to commence on everyone involved. A US corporation, regardless of it's policies, still has to abide by the US constitution. Especially US government officials.

[@theodis8134]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." That's the entire text of the first amendment. All it does is limit what congress can do.

[@shapeshiftingpedro]

@@theodis8134 The FBI can't instruct the removal of specific people's 1st Amendment protected speech without due process. Them secretly going to twitter execs and telling them to do so is a 1st Amendment violation.

[@southernceltic6567]

@@theodis8134 So a "law enforcement agency" , the FBI, and I use that term loosely, was violating our right to free speech, and "congressmen/women" were actively telling a private company who to ban, silence, limit exposure, I know what the 1st says, my point exactly...."or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press" They skipped trying to pass a law and went straight to abridging the freedom of speech.

[@moneyishoney3.0]

he already uses keeps. Thats how he keeps his hair looking so good.

[@joshuatucker2521]

🤣

[@vira2936]

As a content creator in a field where twitter is very important, I really wish if Twitter shadow bans me, just tell me.

[@OniGanon]

That would ruin the point of shadow banning.

[@GastNdorf]

The thing is if you let government access VPNs "for special cases", trust me they will know how to make "anytime they want" a special case, that's the slippery slope

[@gontmawr5010]

"No such thing as shadowbanning....but we will stop your post from being allowed to be seen by the public" Semantics. I am absolutely anti-semantic.

[@zeals936]

Clear, concise facts. No fluff, no feelings, no BS. As always, good take Asmon. It’s good to know others think this way.

[@wademikunda2118]

@Asmongold TV Dude you can't say "it's a private company,they can do what they want" Like did you not just read the government interference and do you not know about section 230? Seriously

[@boldCactuslad]

bro its a private company, they can lock me in the basement and force me to ingest hemlock if they want, it's the first words of the constitution: "corpa corpa corpa, twitter is god, hemlock"

[@BongSwansong]

They always scream that until it's them on the chopping block. Then it's "This company is overreaching and its wrong!" Asmon isn't apolitical, he's wealthy so he likely leans a good bit left and sees no problem with it when it serves his political group.

[@jspot_5198]

The private company argument doesn't hold water

[@niklin8397]

People on Twitter would be like show me proof people are being shadow banned are the same people now saying I always knew this, this is nothing. 😂

[@buddabudda]

Yea, same people who were all "Quit overreacting about Twitter and get your own platform", and then suddenly screaming "Omg Twitter in the wrong hands will be the end of democracy!!!"

[@Arkstromater]

Well ….. I’m glad I never used twitter

[@bubbajoe117]

Yeah but it’s not just Twitter, Twitter is just the only site to admit to doing this after they stopped. Facebook, KZbin, literally any Google product all do this or something like this.

[@spoolinsvt6489]

@@bubbajoe117 Twitter didnt just decide to admit. It was bought out and the new owner is revealing it. Twitter would of never came out and said it. That is a BIG difference

[@babochee]

Twitter is great

[@toastedtimexxx4859]

Good thing I’ve never used Twitter and go outside 😂

[@Zesmas]

And im just sitting here watching this when i dont nor have i ever even used Twitter before.

[@showlovespreadlove8913]

Imagine where we would be if Americans were this spineless going against Carnegie and Rockefeller. I can see it now "They're a private company, and look at the libraries Carnegie built! They can do what they want."

[@Jobiin]

One of the most based individuals to exist, love this content Asmon

[@GuitarJester89]

These people commenting on your live stream don't even know what they are talking about. If they did, What do they mean "toxic"? It was proven that many of these people banned were done with no actual reason. And lied about.

[@Third_eyee]

The White House press secretary said the White House doesn’t get involved with content moderation on twitter even tho Yoel Roth was having weekly meetings with the FBI lol

[@Tetarkall]

I love your input Asmon. This is a complicated issue, you explain the points perfectly!

[@dreddscott3873]

It's not a complicated issue. It's an Orwellian issue.

[@Urusovite]

Twitter WAS NOT private. It received outside funding from investors AND the government. It also had government agents within as we knew, but have confirmed. Additionally, section 230 states that platforms are protected from liability of content on the platform as long as they do not publish information. However, by censoring information, they are editorializing content and acting as publishers and should therefore lose all protections. That's the issue. Asmon is wrong as usual. He doesn't understand nor does he really care about free speech.

[@sheddz6662]

yeah facebook and instagram are shadowbanning aswell

[@gillsejusbates6938]

dEfInE sHaDoWbAnNiNg

[@xSSxTejas]

The issue is them not implementing their rules equally then lying about doing it. Nobody cares if "toxic" people get banned but the freakin taliban is on twitter give me a break

[@thynErro]

When in doubt just call the person, you disagree with biased. The first person to call out the bias of the other party automatically wins every disagreement. That's just the law of debates after all.

[@sovietcupcakes328]

wait till you see the shadowbanning on youtube.

[@peteno108]

It's literally been happening for years. Remember back in, like, 2019 when KZbin advertised on their blog that 'borderline content' was receiving 70% fewer views? Huge channels like Stefan Molyneux have been deleted since then for their political views.

[@24hr-Gaming]

Twitter talking with the FBI constantly is normal. When you have a largely unmoderated space, ignoring their joke of a report system, people are going to be using it for criminal activity. Most social media platforms do have a disclaimer that what you post can be subpoenaed by law enforcement and if it's a valid request, they do have to comply. Even 4chan had to deal with stuff like that. Moot himself was subpeonaed and had to appear in court.

[@shapeshiftingpedro]

You're coping. The FBI here enlisted Twitter to censor people on behalf of the government due to their opinions and political beliefs. That's a violation of the 1st Amendment.

[@TuningAnApple]

Yeah, every platform likely needs to report whenever any potential CP is posted.

[@TheCloud175]

This shit is so melodramatic lmao. Twitter is a company that runs a website. If you don't like how the website operates, just don't go on it. It's pretty simple. Get over your social media addictions if it really upsets you this much.

[@douglasmurdoch7247]

If the government is going to be able to see through a VPN, then just get rid of VPNs. It defeats the whole purpose.

[@Clone895]

VPNs are not the end-all be-all of internet security. I know a lot of people are sponsored by VPN companies, but the truth is they aren't as bulletproof as the ads make it seem. They mask your internet traffic and IP from your ISP and weird people at coffee shops, but they will not protect you from proper government surveillance. That is a whole different can of worms

[@ZoranZoltanous]

Asmongold is legit a soy jack who can’t understand how bad this was

[@azureperite5298]

Definitely a scary issue

[@jessejames9674]

Your either a Utility and get the protection from lawsuits for false information, and we all have open access without fear of ban or shadow banning. That or your a private platform and we can sue for false information, and you can ban at your whim. Pick which one you want.

[@ryansteffens9704]

My opinion on VPNs is that government is already running and/or monitoring these companies.

[@scottd52843]

Of course, Twitter was 99% liberal, they discriminated against hiring anyone that wasn't liberal. The Party of no discrimination is often the biggest discriminators.

[@ddha0000]

to be fair, if you are conservative, you are a bit of an idiot so why would they hire you.

[@scottd52843]

@@ddha0000 Would you say that about minorities as well? Ad hominin attacks are normally a sign of a weak argument.

[@SAoutlaw]

@@ddha0000 the irony is painful with you dems.

[@bankruptjojo5009]

Thx asmon! Great vid! I still find it weird that some people think the world would collapse without regulations.

[@dreddscott3873]

Yet another "conspiracy theory" that actually turned out to be a spoiler.

[@mrmr2488]

Conspiracy theories are just spoiler alerts at this point.

[@namethefifth7315]

Well because they are not conspiracy theories they are real issues that are labeled as a conspiracy theory to discredit it and make the steeple throw out the possibility that it could be true

[@dreddscott3873]

@@namethefifth7315 yeah, that's what I said.

[@Eridu]

Asmon has a way to get more keeps ads on the videos he watches than I've ever seen in my life

[@yungsofa8084]

how could someone in asmondgolds livestream comment "thats one heck of a biased take in the video" are you kidding me lol what is wrong with people and then the person who got banned for calling someone a nazi lmao these people are jokes and it not just the left or the right its both.

[@mrbigwheel11]

Shouldn’t they go to jail for lying to congress?🤔

[@cerebus201]

Asmon is notorious for concretely highlighting the problems of capitalism, like monopolies, and yet on rare occasions when he's pressed to call out capitalism, he claims that it isn't a problem. It's because he massively benefits from it. In this very video he said that any company that harms the majority of people shouldn't be allowed to exist, and yet that is literally the very system of capitalism and corporations and what they are designed to do: exploit the masses for pure profit. I think he is honestly aware of this but can't admit it because it would make him look like a hypocrite. I'd respect him more if he just owned up to it.

[@lonerevenant0]

There's nothing wrong with Capitalism tho. Their is something wrong with corporatism tho. Which can be a corrupt form of capitalism. But capitalism in itself isn't bad. To believe that is just stupid.

[@cerebus201]

@@lonerevenant0 The top 1% of the world's population control 90% of the wealth because of capitalism. The entire purpose of capitalism is to exploit human beings to produce profit. That's why we work for most of our lives for shit wages while corporations make billions in profit. That's not "corporatism," that's just capitalism. You're arguing against your own interests.

[@cerebus201]

@@domerame5913 What does this mean? "Every value"?

[@cerebus201]

@@doroza2lol Asmon was remarking about how monopolies are destructive. Monopolies are an inherent feature of a capitalist economic system. Thank you for showing that you have no idea what capitalism or socialism is. "More like socialism" as billion-dollar corporations destroy the world for profit. Jfc.

[@ManCheat2]

Capitalism is when the government forces a company to do something, lol ok tankie.

[@norsehawk]

Part 5 of twitter files... hold my beer.

[@aquinning]

Asmon with another W take on Twitter

[@NaiDoesThings]

Are people forgetting that back in 2021 Twitter admitted to their algorithm being biased towards the right?

[@Turambar_499]

Reactionaries think the whole world is conspiring against them because they got banned for using slurs. Meanwhile every day KZbin is trying to feed me Daily Wire videos whenever I watch anything vaguely political. But sure, social media has a left wing bias 🤡

[@devilmansanchez]

It really depends on the regulation. Mostly, economic activity must be left to the market, because the government is more likely to screw it over than to improve it.

[@theodis8134]

Improve it for whom? Companies literally will destroy food rather than give it out when there's a surplus to prevent a drop in prices. Pharmaceutical companies will use tricks to perpetually have patents and charge 10s to 100s times more than the cost of drugs to maximize profits even if it means pricing people out of living. Internet providers carefully carve out parts of the country to avoid competition with each other so they can charge as much as the market will bare while providing the bare minimum service. Private prison companies will lobby for laws that increase incarceration and sentence lengths. The only thing saving you from giant corporations taking control of everything is a functional government that has the power to keep these corporations in check. In theory you should trust the government since they're elected. The reason that seems so insanely silly at the moment is that in the US politicians are essentially bought into power to serve their donors rather than their constituents. That is not a flaw in democracy, rather an issue with unchecked capitalism breaking democracy. The happiest countries with the strongest middle classes all heavily regulate their markets.

[@couchman7749]

To say someone’s opinion is null because they don’t run their own Twitter or can’t tell you what a retweet is narcissistic. You can “not exist” in the world of Twitter and have an have an opinion against its ability and actions to censor information and/or people. They’re not mutually exclusive.

[@StewStrengthCo]

They went from saying “it isn’t happening.” to “it doesn’t matter.” I think the most frustrating part is the manipulation of trends. Trends act like news and if not manipulated are beautifully unbiased. To simplify this idea, remember some Tweets are deleted for violating ToS. These suppressed tweets aren’t against the rules they just are just opinions they don’t want you to see.

[@randomsouthern3919]

16:51 The downside of government regulation is that it will lead to situations like what happened to Count Dankula. Make a joke that offends anyone and be charged with a crime.