Shadow Priest Rotation Guide - WOTLK Classic

Master your shadow priest gameplay and get ready for Ulduar with this Guide! Great for beginners and advanced players alike!
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Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:41 Addons
1:55 Beginner Rotation
2:54 Beginner Multidotting and AOE
4:23 Advanced Rotation
6:30 Advanced Rotation (Full Speed)
7:48 Adv Multidotting (2 Targets)
9:31 Adv Multidotting (4 Targets)
10:45 Mind Flay Clipping Explained
12:15 Always Be Casting Explained
13:49 Precasting VT Explained
14:42 Shadowfiend in Opener Explained
15:51 DP and Bloodlust Explained
17:00 Summary and Outro
#wow #wowclassic #shadowpriest #rotation

[@kyleshutt8082]

Finally a in depth guide that actually explains why we are doing what we are doing

[@AG-yw7sv]

I just got started on my spriest like a week ago, and this is exactly the type of guide I've been looking for! Instant sub. Cheers!

[@Pants_Gaming]

Glad I could help!

[@Poillip]

Excellent guide, my friend, this deserves more attention. I had no idea about the log analyzer in particular. That's gonna be super useful in showing up all my warlock guildies xD

[@wingdingtings]

Small world, I was actually just looking at some of your parses last night to see how I could improve (I'm typically around 93-97, also Bene alliance) and the algorithm serves this up to me today. Great tips in here, keep it up!

[@Pants_Gaming]

Haha that’s awesome. Glad you like the vid!

[@zionsphinxx]

Damn, as a newbie SP player myself, it was a lot of info to be absorbed on the advanced rotation section of the video. But overall, this is a great video to help out fellow players on how to play the spec correctly. Thanks on making this guide and subscribed as well!

[@Pants_Gaming]

Just enjoy playing shadow and as you get more comfortable then start to introduce the advanced mechanics into your rotation. Don’t feel like you need to learn everything at once. Glad you like the video though!

[@Gbb93]

Master the basics first and then the advanced makes wayyyyyy more sense

[@toddswansiger5830]

Thanks for making a guide over rotation

[@jexar]

Good video. Im gonna level a SP up and follow your advice.

[@illya0000]

this stuff has helped me a lot, thanks boss

[@RageBoxMan]

Great guide man thanks! I'm a shadow priest on Skyfury and I've been really trying to up my game. I had no idea DP was affected by lust like that!

[@Pants_Gaming]

Glad I could help!

[@jasonlucia6682]

Fellow skyfury spriest, what's your toons name? I'm Detso

[@geekygreek7]

Awesome video!

[@REP4K]

bro, this is the best guide I've ever seen for rotation. It's a pity that I can't give you more than one like. I wanted to give each timecode a like.

[@Pants_Gaming]

First video I ever made. I appreciate that!

[@smallrose323]

great video ty

[@albeshino8875]

awesome video man

[@Pants_Gaming]

Love this, thank you!

[@rogerjohnson3311]

mmmm some really helpful tips thankyou

[@Pants_Gaming]

No problem!

[@jump312]

YESS GUIDE ME DOWN THE PATH OF DARKNESSSSSSSS lol I play feral dps so I love dots, and not being able to see my character most the time, so shadow is for me! hahaha

[@Flemmings1000]

This is a great guide! I do have a note however, in phase 8 (which is current as of this comment), the current 4 set from Ulduar grants your Mind Blast 4 seconds of 240 haste. As Vampiric Touch and Devouring Plague benefits massively from haste, there is an argument to be made of changing your rotation a bit based on when you cast Mind Blast. This is just a friendly reminder, use it as you'd like. Personally I use the standard opening no matter what, and keep in mind Mind Blast if I see CDs line up in a way that allows me to cast MB before DP/VT without too much downtime.

[@Pants_Gaming]

You can check out the shadow priest sim at wowsims.GitHub.io and input your gear to see if changes your rotation, but it’s likely nothing will change. I’ve never seen it adjust my rotation and I’m 4 pieces off of phase bis currently

[@Flemmings1000]

@@Pants_Gaming Yeah, i have noticed it does not change the rotation, but if you think about it, doing; VP - DP - MB as normally the first 3 GCDs, or doing VT - MB - DP, doesnt really matter on how much time you are losing in dot tick time, but having that 240 haste present when you cast DP, should increase the DPS slightly. Can even go MB - VP - DP as they both benefit from the haste. But you lose 1 GCD of uptime om your dots. Imo, its worth it.

[@Pants_Gaming]

a few things 1. You recast dp after lust is cast anyway, so that first DP having 240 haste doesn't mean anything if you don't get an extra tick in the few seconds it's active before you recast DP (which I don't believe you would) 2. 240 haste is only 7% haste so it's not as impactful as it might seem 3. The sim optimizes the rotation based upon the highest dps cast in that moment so the fact that it doesn't change the rotation means the buff is not impactful enough to warrant rotational changes I understand what you're trying to say but people have already mathed out the set bonus and, while it's really good, it's not strong enough to impact our rotation

[@Esteb86]

I changed my rotation around the 4 piece for a week and it didn't really change much. I just cast it normally. It eventually lines up with vt/dp cast quite often during a fight, and waiting for MB to be off cd to recast a DP in the changed rotation wasn't worth it.

[@darkrinn7799]

hey, awesome guide helped me a lot! is there a way cou can link the weakaura?

[@gielmathues8663]

Rly good spriest vid!

[@Pants_Gaming]

Thank you!

[@CleanUpCrew79]

Awesome guides man love the content. Question - in the case where your best weapon doesn't have Crit on it (I currently have the Staff off Hodir 25), is it best to swap to a High Crit weapon before the Sw:P snapshot?

[@Pants_Gaming]

You can but it’s such a minimal dps gain that I do not do this. SWP is such a weak spell that it’s not worth doing in my opinion It different for locks and corruption. Since corruption benefits from haste it provides so much more dps than swp so it is much higher value for them Glad you’re enjoying the content!

[@paschalcusimano3236]

Really good video got me understanding Spriest a lot better. The only thing I'm really confused about is when do I use SWD? I see the glyph can make it deal 10% more damage below 35% but when do I weave it if at all?

[@Pants_Gaming]

It’s kind of a worthless spell in Wotlk even with the glyph. There are niche circumstances when it’s a dps upgrade but that’s only once or twice throughout a fight so I didn’t mention it as misusing it will cost you more dps than you could gain. IMO save it for movement and don’t use the glyph

[@Yippaah]

Where do you combo inner focus with? I've always done it with MB but I think I see you cast it with mindflay. I made the assumption a hard crit MB paired with no mana cost was better but maybe, as mana isn't much of a issue more you pair it with flay as its more damage?

[@vancoo1]

hello which addons are you using for target and you character frames, and DoT spells drain down list on the left?

[@halfheart3290]

Even as a long time SP player this was helpful, mostly the tool you linked showing me how much dps I am missing because of clipping my MFs early or not getting my dots up quick enough. One thing I would add and this is more so for specific fights rather than overall. Vezzax and Hodir you get a metric ton of haste from either the puddles or beams, mind blast can only gain so much from haste however MF, VT, and DP don't really have that fall off. There is a WA that can tell you when your haste reaches a certain thresh hold where MB is not worth it to cast, though on Vezzax and Hodir (in beams) you really shouldn't be casting MB almost at all. It's only really ever kind of worth it on Vezzax if nobody else is doing a mortal strike or something similar if your raid is not good with getting his mark out of the group, so maybe casting one when that debuff comes out to prevent some healing if nobody else is.

[@Pants_Gaming]

I mention those things in my boss specific guides!

[@Limerone]

I can tell that in new to shadow since I interpreted mf’s as motherfuckers first. I am hopeless

[@halfheart3290]

@@Limerone Yea sometimes clipping your motherfuckers to just motherfu is good, but not always the case.

[@rpminfinite]

Great video with awesome tips! I have a question about the advanced rotation. I was told that I should cast MF after VT>DP to get 5 stacks faster, then SWP >MB. Why is it more advantageous to cast VT>DP>MB>MF>SWP?

[@Pants_Gaming]

It's possible trolls may do this if they pop berserking on pull, but my sim was configured to cast shadowfiend 2 seconds into the fight and Bloodlust 3 seconds in. With these settings the sim did mb into mf with my gear, even as a troll. The reason to cast mind blast is that it's a higher damage per cast time than mind flay, but overall it's a minor change

[@rpminfinite]

@@Pants_Gaming Thanks!

[@magnuscarlander8381]

Hey, Nice vid!! What addon do you use for Player, Target, Target of Target, Party and Raidframes? Really clean look!

[@Pants_Gaming]

Raid frames are Vuhdo and elvui is everything else

[@michaelhall-qf4ur]

When playing wrath when it was the currwnt expansion me and another spreist had an idea bout having 2 tanks 1 holy paladin with beacon on both tank and 22 shadow priest as the healing from the damage would keep the whole 25 man raid up.. Never got around to do it though

[@valentino5264]

Hi, Great guide helped alot. One question. what addon do you use to show the time duration of your dots there to the left. Looks like a cast bar.

[@Pants_Gaming]

Cleo’s dot timers weakaura. Can find on wago

[@SAlma-kw7to]

Thank you for the video!! Which mindflay+MindSear ticking WA are you using?

[@Pants_Gaming]

I use quartz for my cast bar. Other good addons exist like Gnosis and there are weakauras you can use as well

[@SAlma-kw7to]

@@Pants_Gaming thank you good sir!

[@Esteb86]

Theres a really good WA called Dont use mind blast, that I use. It shows you when using MB would be a waste of haste from the 4piece. It comes in handy. I also use the fojii sw:p snapshotter WA. Gives a nice % visual on when reapplying sw:p would be worth it. Generally its during all SP/crit modifiers in encounters, but it's nice to have if one forgets

[@andreaskarlsson5251]

Got a wa for pain as well. Only problem is. I dont know at what % its worth reapplying pain. Especially with fight length being a variable 😅

[@mortenlundkristensen7050]

Yo Pants! Better late than never - whats up with Inner Focus? Using it on Mind blasts or?

[@Pants_Gaming]

Always mind flay. Better to get the extra crit % on the three ticks than a single mind blast. Can use with mind sear in aoe situations

[@BigGulpsV2]

Nice video! What addon are you using to track DoT timers in the middle left of your screen? Thanks!

[@Pants_Gaming]

It’s in the video description!

[@BigGulpsV2]

@@Pants_Gaming Got it, thx :)))))

[@bleedingeclipse9984]

there is a constant clicking sound coming from one of the profiles you have and i would like to disable it. I love the setup but I just cant handle the clicking with my disability

[@markomancikas]

Awesome video! Although, isn't there a macro that does not allow you to stop the channel of mind flay early? Pretty sure I remember using that to never clip mind flay allowing me to just spam my keys without a worry (also, as tier 10 MF becomes primary and more important than MB and everyone knows you can't spam MF key repeatedly)

[@Pants_Gaming]

The nochanneling macro you’re talking about is a dps loss. It introduces additional lag between casts where casting a spell manually after mind flay does not have that lag. Also you can’t clip this cast which is a second reason it’s a dps loss Also in T10 mind blast will mostly fall out of your rotation so mind flay will be cast repeatedly while not reapplying dots. Though you may still cast blast on occasion (not entirely sure yet tbh) but I’ll have another rotation guide for T10 as we approach ICC. I don’t know what you mean by not being able to spam flay as you’ll be casting it in succession for most of the fight with the T10 4 piece bonus

[@markomancikas]

@@Pants_Gaming I meant that you can't spam the mind flay keybind while it is channeling as it will stop the current channel (once off the GCD) and start casting a new one 😅 ok, I didn't that about the channeling macro, I will not use it...

[@PB-im9bd]

What is the add-on that you're using for the countdown timer? Great vid!

[@Pants_Gaming]

TimeToDie WA found here wago.io/TimeToDie Let me know if you were referring to something else though

[@PB-im9bd]

@@Pants_Gaming before installing and messing with settings, the countdown timer I was asking about is the one that counted down from 5 sec when you were attacking the dummy target at 06:35. Is this the same?

[@Pants_Gaming]

@@PB-im9bd Oh that's just part of DBM (Deadly Boss Mods). Whenever you raid leader does a pull timer (/pull 10 for example) that bar will show up

[@Peaty1992]

The multi dot WA? on the left side of the screen, could you please share that. Great video thanks

[@VinceViglione]

Yes. Please put it in video description! Thank you so much!!

[@Pants_Gaming]

Here you go wago.io/FMPBah6sw

[@inplxf]

at 6:24 on the left side of your screen what is that addon called for the dot bars

[@Pants_Gaming]

wago.io/FMPBah6sw

[@jasonlucia6682]

So, this is conjecture but since getting 4 piece t8 i've swapped to Fade->MB->MF3->on use effects + VT-> DP-> SW:P opener. 4 Piece falls off just after casting DP, and you've got trinket procs, tailoring proc, glyph, shadow weaving, demonic pact, and lust rolling on your initial dots. Plus you save the globals from reapplication. Mind blast comes off CD perfectly after SW:P and you've got freshly applied dots so you're free to get a full inner focus MF3 with your buffed spellpower. When multi dotting targets that live long enough for reapplication I very much prefer to cast VT's sequentially before applying SW:P. It's a very slight dps increase but it's mostly to make reapplication easier, which for my smoothbrain equals more uptime. I still use SW:D for timing dot applications. IE you notice you'll have 1 second left on DP after finishing your MF3. You can either channel a MF2 then reapply, or SW:D->DP. I'm not sure how much haste/sp is needed for this to be a loss. But in current gear it still "feels" correct. Although it's very niche, maybe getting 2 casts in a fight. Also during movement, it's a great time to recast DP after SW:D. Ignis knockup is a great example of this. You can SW:D on the way up and recast DP on the way down. Please don't take this as criticism! Just adding a couple thoughts. Overall I think it's a very well made and concise guide. Edit: I should mention I only use that opener on patchwork style fights, but lolulduar.

[@Pants_Gaming]

Tackling these in order of your post 1. I literally got my 4p last night so haven’t done much experimentation but the sim hasn’t shown any of what you’re saying to be a dps increase. It may be something that feels better due to timings though. I don’t understand the first mind flay 3 as you’d be applying swp a tick late, but if its purely to avoid double casting DP then could make sense when trying to save mana 2. Spreading VT first is always correct. I tend not to do it on 2 targets but that’s just laziness on my part. Always the play and the more targets you’re dotting the more it’s worth 3. I use SWD during dot reapplication as well but as gear scales it’s going to be more niche than it already is. I thought adding it into the guide would hurt more than it would help since the uses are so few and far between. There is an awesome WA that calculates when it’s worth it to use swd so I’ll add that to this post so everyone can use it 4. Definitely correct to spam DP on the move. This was something I forgot to mention in the video but is absolutely worth doing assuming you won’t go oom No criticism taken, appreciate the detailed post

[@jasonlucia6682]

@@Pants_Gaming oh dude grats on 4 piece it's huge! It adds a touch of variance to the rotation that I enjoy quite a bit. Say you MB->VT or DP during your rotation you can clip your MF2 into a MF and squeeze 2-3 extra ticks out of it. So the opener. You MF3 to fully utilize the 4 piece and more importantly hedge your bet on procs (and lust in my guild, timing isn't always consistent ). "IF" it's correct, the timing is a big part of it. I can usually get a 2nd VT off and start an additional mind flay before 10 second trinkets and wild magic drop. On top of the lusted/trinketed globals that you gain. I hate to say it but i've lost a little faith in the sim. I've seen some wonky stuff since ulduar. A couple times i've seen it not use VT until 10 seconds into the fight. 2 weeks ago I lost 1k dps with the same gear/talents and settings, then a week later got about 500dps back. Eye of the broodmother showed as a sidegrade vs forge ember in spite of eye providing more crit and more static spellpower even when assuming 100% proc rate on forge ember. And somehow the crafted belt + dying curse is a dps loss compared to living flame + embrace of the leviathan. I generally run 3 sims at 3k iterations too. TLDR maybe? lol

[@V3SPR]

What are your Quartz settings? Is there a profile I can import somewhere to get the same look? I really like how clearly it displays the ticks on the Mind Flay.

[@Pants_Gaming]

Hmm I don't believe you can export Quartz profiles. In the "Player" tab I have my width = 300 and height = 45 but I don't believe there is a setting for adjusting the width of tick marks. I think making my cast bar as large as it is has helped make the ticks easier to see

[@denverjeffery3462]

What about using devouring plague when on the move like during Saftey dance in naxx, it does instant damage and is instant cast so in that kind of unique sit could be used to more damage while death is on CD

[@Pants_Gaming]

Yeah I didn’t cover that in this video but it’s what you want to do. Use sw:d first and then DP spam until you stop moving

[@jrgatsby6885]

The Advanced rotation, is it just viable when guild pop Bloodlust at start? or should always start with advance rotation + shadowfiend?

[@Pants_Gaming]

shadowfiend will depend on the fight but you should always do the advanced rotation if you feel comfortable doing it

[@Foadski]

I’m an alt spriest, so I don’t know all the ins and outs, but was just thinking today about swapping up the rotation based around 4 piece t8…what if we open with mindblast into a VT/DP w/ the haste buff….and also on that note, what do you think about saving MB for a 3 second left of either VT/DP (ideally both falling off at the same time) to make sure the haste buff hits a “long cast” being the duration of DP/VT, as opposed to simply making mind flay, a “short cast” slightly shorter, would there be value there? Conceptually less mindblasts throughout, but insuring the haste buff gets maximized w/ high damage casts.

[@Pants_Gaming]

The shadow priest discord has done a lot of work regarding this. The short answer is no. You don’t change your rotation at all as it doesn’t provide enough benefit since the 240 haste is only 7% haste. The opener is different though as it depends on your gear. On the shadow priest sim you can select precasting mind blast to see if it’s better than VT. I’ve never had it be a dps upgrade for me personally but you can check it out and see if it is with your gear wowsims.github.io

[@zanecampany2829]

Ye I simed precasting both... precasting MB sim 50-75 higher then precasting Touch, for myself at leasst!

[@Swift016]

The sim does not use engi gloves on the second DP and shows it as a DPS loss. It still prioritizes them at 0 for the initial DP. Is the sim different for your gear? I guess you could argue that if you have ANY downtime in the first few casts (due to boss positioning, etc.), it's probably better to wait on gloves.

[@Pants_Gaming]

Yeah that was a mistake on my part. Correct that you shouldn't if there is any movement in the beginning of a fight and I think my brain has been configured not to use them on pull from Ulduar since it doesn't make sense to on most fights. In a pure single target fight with no movement you absolutely should trinkets/engi gloves on pull

[@thomasobrien1748]

whats the spell bar at the top left that gives you the timers for BP and stuff.. i need to know :D

[@Pants_Gaming]

Here you go wago.io/FMPBah6sw

[@ericwallhagen3146]

With T8 4pc, would you open with Mind Blast instead of Vampiric Touch for the extra haste on your first VT/DP cast?

[@Pants_Gaming]

No the T8 4p bonus doesn’t change your rotation at all, it’s just a nice haste bonus

[@CallCarsonMe]

@@Pants_Gaming If you precast MB instead of VT in your opening rotation it can result in higher DPS with 4set. Linelo added a precast MB option to the sim, so I'd recommend checking that out.

[@Pants_Gaming]

@@CallCarsonMe Thanks for letting me know! I'll have to take a look

[@Stompy1984]

At the end of the Bloodlust here you had about 8 second left on Devouring Plague. Wouldn't it have been a DPS increase to then re-cast DP just to snapshot the Bloodlust onto a fresh DP?

[@Pants_Gaming]

16:18

[@blairsomers7457]

Does this change in p3 due to the haste buff gained by MB on your 4 set

[@Pants_Gaming]

nope nothing changes. just enjoy the haste

[@TheDonnster77]

Why do you cast mb while lust? I thought you should just spam mf and dotting up while lust?! -> I read this in the shadowprist class discord. Great video so far!

[@Pants_Gaming]

At current gear levels mind blast is more damage per cast time than mind flay even during lust. This can be different for trolls if they use berserking with lust. As our gear scales with more haste and spell power mind flay will be worth casting over mind blast but that's not going to be until late in the expansion

[@fg5332]

Hey om your WA it has red numbere under pain -6.9% whst does that mean. I have the addon and when I do it it does the same or it gives me 5.7% or - %

[@Pants_Gaming]

Red means if you recast shadow word pain you’ll weaken your snapshot and do less damage. Green means you can improve your snapshot by recasting

[@fg5332]

@@Pants_Gaming thank you sooo much!!! you been a big help.. i hope you get the girl of your dreams man...

[@kxppy610]

why shadow word pain is last in order?

[@char5631]

at 7:33 I saw you prioed casting vamp touch over devouring plague, Is that the actual prio?

[@Pants_Gaming]

honestly im not sure on that one. it's so minimal that I've never looked into it. I probably could've timed that better so that I started casting vt when the dots had < 1 second on their timers. in that case you want to cast VT because of the cast time

[@christiand.3348]

With 4pcs T8 I am still not sure whether MB should be the opener or still VT.

[@Pants_Gaming]

depends on your gear. use the sim to see which is better for you wowsims.github.io/wotlk/shadow_priest/

[@DjDime92]

wth, where did this lust with shadowfiend come from?

[@Ghostlyman11]

Is that passion's WA or yours. If not, please link

[@Pants_Gaming]

It's Fojji's Priest WA's. Here's the link wago.io/vs8uwOVD3

[@zRedEye.]

what do i have to do to make my dmg numbers look like yours?

[@Pants_Gaming]

That’s from Elvui. I changed the combat text to the font Expressway

[@SilentKME]

Do you have a plater profile I can copy? I like how small and simple your bars are.

[@Pants_Gaming]

in the description of my UI Video

[@SilentKME]

@@Pants_Gaming I copied it and it looks nothing like in the video for some reason lol

[@Pants_Gaming]

@@SilentKME you did something wrong then. I just tested it and it's exactly the same

[@SilentKME]

@@Pants_Gaming The nameplayes were super small when I imported your profile, looked nothing like your video. Imported someone else's and worked fine. Cheers. later tater

[@Pants_Gaming]

Again, you did something wrong

[@BigBammer]

it'd be nice to have a section on talents :\

[@Pants_Gaming]

I'll have a video out on talents next week :D

[@Yippaah]

Why don't you cast swp as 2nd ability after you precast your Vt? Both MB and Mindflay will benefit from a 10% damage increase. Ive seen more guides saying you DP and MB before but to me it makes no sence

[@Pants_Gaming]

Check out the shadow priest discord at discord.gg/classicshadow A lot of your questions are pretty basic and can be answered there in the pins

[@Yippaah]

@@Pants_Gaming alright mate I'll check it out, thank you

[@Thatdudewiththedogs]

5:45 in this rotation, you don’t say shadow word pain at all… but I see it’s casted, so when would u cast it?

[@Thatdudewiththedogs]

It looks like you cast it before the last tick of the first two back to back mind flays, if that makes sense, yeah?

[@Thatdudewiththedogs]

I also heard zero about shadow word death… that’s not apart of the rotation at all? That seems weird

[@Pants_Gaming]

Cast swp at 5 stacks of shadow weaving. Swd isn’t used cause it’s garbage in wrath. It has niche uses but those go away with higher gear. Use swd for movement only

[@Thatdudewiththedogs]

@@Pants_Gaming amazing, thanks so much!

[@stevenathanassopoulos695]

My guild tells me that there’s something called a mind flay macro. Do you know what that is? I’m guessing it’s something that you can just spam to hit another mind flay the millisecond a previous 3 tick one ends but I can’t find it online

[@Pants_Gaming]

The nochanneling macro you’re talking about is a dps loss. It introduces additional lag between casts where casting a spell manually after mind flay does not have that lag. Also you can’t clip this cast which is a second reason it’s a dps loss.

[@stevenathanassopoulos695]

@@Pants_Gaming thank you for the quick reply and thank you for making this guide. This will be helpful breaking through to the next level. I get what you’re saying with the potential latency associated with a macro, but planned to get around the clipping component by having a separate bind for flays that’ll be clipped and flays that I know will be full cast, such as when all dots have more than 6 seconds remaining and I just used mind blast. But that just seems like a whole lot of extra work for nothing

[@daneaucker247]

This may be the dumbest question you get but does Vampiric Embrace only heal your group or can it heal the raid?

[@Pants_Gaming]

Read the tooltip. It says party only ;)

[@daneaucker247]

@@Pants_Gaming Yeah I read that but was going by what someone told me….🫠 Thanks for the quick reply!

[@guilhermesouzasantanagomes6454]

share you talents, plz good video

[@Pants_Gaming]

Here you go www.wowhead.com/wotlk/talent-calc/priest/05032031--325023051223010223152301351

[@roniroukoz6040]

What about the rotation of our new set where MB gives haste, been testing it i think if u cast VT, mind blast then DP is more dmg since Dp gets the added haste. Nt sure if i should cast mind blast first into VT then DP. would like to know ur thoughts on the rotation with the new set bonus

[@Pants_Gaming]

Your rotation doesn’t change because of the bonus haste. So keep doing the same thing and keep pumping!

[@user-zh5ib8sp8k]

i cant understand well what he saying . i have bad english can somebody tell me what add on is?

[@ango1007]

Dont think spriests use mind blast if they have ret with blue judge it's just for mana and doesnt do enough damage to just skip mind flay if i remember correctly

[@lsthatadeer]

You don't remember correctly. You only drop mind blast from the rotation when you get 4 piece tier 10 from ICC.

[@Midinette-bu2xq]

@@lsthatadeer Or if you have extreme levels of haste such as during General Vezax.

[@lucascunha2778]

you're the guild leader right?

[@Pants_Gaming]

Nope, just a raider

[@xuyouj1e]

5:51 I don’t think you recast DP there, the cd shows it never got refreshed

[@Pants_Gaming]

So it is actually cast but it’s hard to tell because the newly casted DP has the same duration as the old DP on the dummy. Lust comes out, I cast mind flay, swp, and then DP. You can tell by closely looking at my spriest weakaura in the center of the screen. The DP icon gets shaded as the timer counts down but that shaded area resets once I recast, despite the timer reading the same number This happens at 5:46 This was my second video so definitely could’ve done a better job highlighting my casts and syncing up the audio and video

[@xuyouj1e]

@@Pants_Gaming gotcha, thanks for the reply

[@STioobie]

so do we not cast shadow word: death on CD?

[@Pants_Gaming]

No you almost never cast it. Only if you’re moving and there are rare occasions when reapplying dots. Though I would only cast it on the move if I were you

[@STioobie]

@@Pants_Gaming thanks i been doing this wrong all this time casting it on CD

[@camtap757]

Another scenario could be during Ignis when he casts jets and you’re thrown into the air, I cast SW:D while mid air

[@STioobie]

Another question do i let my dots fall off and reapply or reapply before they drop?

[@Pants_Gaming]

@@STioobie always fall off. for VT you want to time it so you have less than 1 second left on it's timer when you start your cast. That way the last tick will deal damage and you almost instantly reapply VT. DP recast once it falls off

[@jazzmeltsface]

I think in the opener if lusting immediately, Pre cast Mind Blast(with Wild Magic), Gloves, VT, DP, Flay. That way your first VT and DP are effected by Gloves/MB 4pc buff and Lust off the bat without having to recast. That's gotta be the burstiest opener no? Especially if lust goes off immediately after MB, 3 considerable haste buffs.

[@Pants_Gaming]

You should never lust immediately in my opinion. If you use lust immediately then those first few globals are spent putting up debuffs and wasting the raids use of bloodlust as everyone is not casting their most damaging abilities until a few seconds later. Classes like shamans and priests want to get out their pets before lust so they need time at the start of the fight to set everything up.

[@chiefwarcraft1010]

Can you just copy your addon folder so we can just copy all your addons with the same adjustments you have? Pleaseeee :p

[@chiefwarcraft1010]

I also looked on your discord and it looks like you have a file for each addon separately.

[@Pants_Gaming]

My profiles for Elvui and plater are in my ui video. But if you really want my whole setup I can set up a Dropbox for my addon and wtf folders tomorrow

[@wesleykiefer8360]

I’m the advanced guide when are you casting shadow word pain?

[@Pants_Gaming]

@5:43 once I get 5 stacks of shadow weaving after the 2 tick mind flay. My bad for not saying that

[@wesleykiefer8360]

@@Pants_Gaming THANK YOU!! : )

[@Gbb93]

Easy to learn. Extremely meticulous to master. People say warlock is harder. Yeah....ok....

[@andreaskarlsson5251]

Used to main lock and Id say theyre about equally difficult.

[@The-eo4lj]

Meanwhile I got kicked out of every single "top guild" on all warmane's realms in both factions because I said crit potions in most situations are optimal and got into a fight with toP GmS and ToP sPriEsTs on that dog server, everyone and their mother both precasts and later uses haste potions, in every situation, every scenario, every boss and every gear, it's hilarious how low the IQ of those players is. Hell, these are the same people playing fire mage on Sindra with bis gear, then again, that is everyone, I guess 10 yesrs is not enough for people to pick up on the most obvious shit in a game 😂 This is the first non dogshit guide ive ever found

[@prianganwalks3769]

Mind flay anim animation in wotlk very ugly ,,