Shane Jones on Te Pāti Māori's Genocidal Rhetoric

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Michael Laws talks to NZ First's Shane Jones about Te Pāti Māori's genocidal rhetoric.
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@marklayland5424
@marklayland5424 Ай бұрын
The Maori party does not represent decent hard working Maori who want the best for themselves and their families, well said Shane Jones.
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
@marklayland so what do you think maori want the best for themselves and their families?
@logicalanswer3529
@logicalanswer3529 Ай бұрын
That is because they are professional victims. The Māori that you described are not.
@Pastaaa204
@Pastaaa204 Ай бұрын
​@@logicalanswer3529we want a Maori parliament that has no te pati Maori influence. Alot of their policies were rinse and repeat of labour and green and don't focus on issues that are at the forefront of Maori minds. TPM aside from hana imo, are just antagonisers - I laugh at Debbie most times but hardly ever take her seriously. I feel as though they don't have to be so dismissive of others interpretation and refusing to enlighten people in their reasoning for their vernacular , they're doing a Winston essentially - giving half truths that if you're unaware of the history will trigger a negative response. One thing I do have to disagree with is that they're choosing to hyperfixate on the Maori document te tiriti simply bc they're TPM - by international standards the legally binding document is the one in the indigenous language as opposed to colonial forces. Just think, if the original govt ensured both were a true translation of one another without any intentional deception then te tiriti wouldn't hold more weight internationally than the English variant The treaty of waitangi🤷🏻‍♀️ just food for thought anyway
@jimijamesjowitt
@jimijamesjowitt Ай бұрын
Those are New Zealanders. Anyone identifying by race are definitely not New Zealanders as we dont have racists on our team. We actually have laws which haven't bee enforced recently preventing racism and hate speech.
@zweed69
@zweed69 Ай бұрын
@serdownofhousebad1127 have you heard of the waitangi tribunal by any chance? 🤣 🤔😆
@sonnyday6830
@sonnyday6830 Ай бұрын
Shane speaks the truth
@timemeasured
@timemeasured Ай бұрын
Yes he does. 👍🌹
@Buddhest
@Buddhest Ай бұрын
No He Dosnt 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏽🤦🏽
@olliemoose2020
@olliemoose2020 Ай бұрын
Yes he does.​@@Buddhest
@olliemoose2020
@olliemoose2020 Ай бұрын
Yes he dose.
@user-pg3ll3sb5b
@user-pg3ll3sb5b Ай бұрын
He does speak truth to a blood traitor. He speaks as one
@castleofaargh2093
@castleofaargh2093 Ай бұрын
TPM are a disgrace for their rhetoric. Have them tell someone from Rwanda or Cambodia about genocide
@angge4261
@angge4261 Ай бұрын
SO TRUE. I am from neither country, but you raise a point that should be heard.
@N.Kelvyn
@N.Kelvyn Ай бұрын
And countries invaded by America
@logicalanswer3529
@logicalanswer3529 29 күн бұрын
They were the first to commit genocide in New Zealand - Fact.
@N.Kelvyn
@N.Kelvyn 29 күн бұрын
Just like the british around the world
@N.Kelvyn
@N.Kelvyn 29 күн бұрын
@@logicalanswer3529 No different to the british of the 1700s and 1800s ,its only genoside if its not them ,
@kiwitoffee
@kiwitoffee Ай бұрын
Dangerous and deluded. They themselves are living proof that their claims are false. Well done, Shane Jones.
@jimijamesjowitt
@jimijamesjowitt Ай бұрын
Well when no actual Maori existed their claim was legitimate. But now anyone with a Maori ancestor is Maori. That must make me Aboriginal from 5 generation or more since a 100% Aboriginal ancestor. I must be owed reparations. Even though Im as pale as pale comes. There is no non european maori so they have no claim of anythings anymore.
@djhemirukahemisphere8893
@djhemirukahemisphere8893 Ай бұрын
​@@jimijamesjowittI well perhaps if your aboriginal ancestors had a treaty guaranteeing your equity you could expect an equitable outcome
@elizagoodytwoshoes9140
@elizagoodytwoshoes9140 Ай бұрын
​@@djhemirukahemisphere8893really aren't you tired? Isn't it time to stand in your own power your own evolution? Surely RIP means to move forward and allow our predecessors to rest while we take care of ourselves. Isn't it all just so tiring 😴
@Chas-te7uz
@Chas-te7uz Ай бұрын
​​@@djhemirukahemisphere8893well said. 👍 agreed
@Chas-te7uz
@Chas-te7uz Ай бұрын
​​@@jimijamesjowittonly 5 generations??? My family goes back 47 generations. That's a mighty big difference to be calling yourself indigenous... do you have Polynesian heritage or culture????
@davidfentonhancock6646
@davidfentonhancock6646 Ай бұрын
"A toxic mix of idealogical bigotry".......love it. Thanks Shane.
@user-km9vs4qv6q
@user-km9vs4qv6q Ай бұрын
I have Māori blood and none of us are owed anything we are all kiwis
@petergrant1322
@petergrant1322 Ай бұрын
me too
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
@@petergrant1322 obviously not knowing your maori heritage but more of your european heritage i guess
@rosssouthwell8678
@rosssouthwell8678 Ай бұрын
​@Duckz558 nothing wrong with that, but y not acknowledge ur more than likley 2/3non Maori blood lines .
@food4thort
@food4thort Ай бұрын
@@Duckz558 What a naive comment. I am also of Maori descent and and happen to know my genealogy/whakapapa very well. I couldn't care less if TMP consider me a 'blood traitor'. Their rhetoric is totally toxic and shameful.
@petergrant1322
@petergrant1322 Ай бұрын
@@Duckz558 I know my Maori heritage and I am first a Christian, then a Kiwi., then have an interest in Scots, Irish and Maori heritage, like some parts , dislike others, never been a bludger, or lived with a victim mentality. I worked until 69 years old. Never had a hand out
@danielphillips4399
@danielphillips4399 Ай бұрын
The Maori Party have gone extremist and separatist. They do not in anyway represent myself as a proud Maori.
@petergrant1322
@petergrant1322 Ай бұрын
@@danielphillips4399 Amazing, I agree absolutely
@moonknight4053
@moonknight4053 28 күн бұрын
Damn I voted for them too
@toakasi6425
@toakasi6425 27 күн бұрын
The style of leadership is more leaning towards kingitanga and mana motuhake theres friction and plenty of fracture there but they need to be more realistc and focus on getting a bill in place to much haerere ki tawahi and more hui less doey.
@lesterwyoung
@lesterwyoung Ай бұрын
Always delighted to hear Shane speak. Great command of language.
@swites
@swites Ай бұрын
So ridiculous. Maori were never one people. But were made up of tribes who spent much of the time battling over food and resources, and killing each other. Then engaging in a forever spiral of utu. I have Maori ancestry and my ancestors were nearly all slaughtered and enslaved by Te Rauparaha at Onawe Pa in 1832. Lucky my great x4 Grandfather escaped. The good ol' days eh?!!! No thanks!
@Pastaaa204
@Pastaaa204 Ай бұрын
Seems we are whanau then, ae te rauparaha caused alot of mamae. It's partially why I refused to perform ka mate at school (apparently it was the only haka known in the early 2000s) and would only do our own haka from my rohe. My ancestors on the east coast in wairoa weren't that fond of bloodshed and would often shame their enemies by hanging them upside down in trees until the surrendered. Back in the day surrendering brought more shame on the wider hapu than actual death. We didn't like the never endeding cycle of utu, even my ancestor te rauhina made the distinction that she was not a woman that ate flesh to the point her husband's other wife was the man eating wife. You'll find it's not an all encompassing thing and the first tuturu Maori that inhabited these lands before the more recent migrations were very kind people and were more similar to moriori in terms of their nature and stature. Namely bc there were two brothers in which moriori descend from, one went to rekohu the other one went up in te Urewera.
@richardbruce8111
@richardbruce8111 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your account! you have got it! proud of the good bits shameful stuff not so much same for us all ! my viking bits both brave & AWEFUL BUT today is now we are all here now the world is ours we can make it better ...or worse thank you
@danieln6700
@danieln6700 Ай бұрын
Sounds like u need some reparations from another tribe
@swites
@swites Ай бұрын
@@Pastaaa204 ​ Yeah not my favourite haka either haha! Some have theories that the weather shifted in the Island and times became much tougher, with more droughts and storms so that's when the competition for resources really started. Sparking migrations. Plus the fight for those resources became a matter of survival leading to a more warrior culture, and a more warlike people than before. If that's the case then it could explain why the people of the first migrations were much more peaceful in nature. Like the Moriori etc who got largely wiped out by some of Ngati toa's allies from Taranaki.
@zweed69
@zweed69 Ай бұрын
💯🎯
@geoffneal9146
@geoffneal9146 Ай бұрын
So pleased Kiwis are starting to call out false, inflammatory & hateful language.
@rosssouthwell8678
@rosssouthwell8678 Ай бұрын
What ever f o 😂😮😊
@logicalanswer3529
@logicalanswer3529 29 күн бұрын
@@rosssouthwell8678 You can get moody all you want, the tide is changing.
@teevis3620
@teevis3620 20 күн бұрын
Maybe non maori who identify as Kiwi should pause for a moment ant ask themselves why the chose a maori word to identify themselves. There is mo reason why you can't however; if no part of your physical DNA is of maori descent and you think we should all be accepted as New Zealanders... then doesn't it make logical sense to refer to yourselves as New Zealanders?
@timemeasured
@timemeasured Ай бұрын
Thank you Michael👍🌹 Blessings and Thank you Minister Shane Jones. 👍🌹
@craigscoullar564
@craigscoullar564 Ай бұрын
Shane makes me pround to be a new Zealander keep up your great meaningful work..you hit the nail on the head...
@irianscott1062
@irianscott1062 Ай бұрын
the Maori Party using the same type of White supremacist rhetoric. How ironic.
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
@brianscott1062 same as nat/acts/nzf is what you mean by the same?
@logicalanswer3529
@logicalanswer3529 Ай бұрын
Maori supremacist rhetoric.
@zhanghawley787
@zhanghawley787 Ай бұрын
​@@Duckz558no actually from labour n the greens do your homework
@AminYaMum85
@AminYaMum85 Ай бұрын
Are you handicapped mate?
@zweed69
@zweed69 Ай бұрын
@@Duckz558 cope harder 😂
@tribalwar9971
@tribalwar9971 Ай бұрын
Well said I voted left until Jacinda started goose stepping around important questions. There goal is to divide I love our country and people Wouldn't mind closing our borders for a year our infrastructure can't cope
@mattheweden-pc5pk
@mattheweden-pc5pk Ай бұрын
Tea party Maori Party should be ashamed of their actions, racist and hateful rhetoric towards the rest of the country is shameful and unacceptable, the treaty is now being used against the majority of people in New Zealand
@markbeale7390
@markbeale7390 Ай бұрын
? Green Tea party.
@debbielacey6229
@debbielacey6229 Ай бұрын
Dear Matthew, Great great comment..👍👏👍 I DEFINITELY feel the same as I have had a gut full of them. Thank you. Hope you and your family are well. With love ❤and blessings 🙏
@pauljones3062
@pauljones3062 Ай бұрын
@@mattheweden-pc5pk Yeah but Luxon is to weak & will not help Act bring his Principles bill to reality as with the ongoing co governance Luxon will allow it to continue.
@evonmoir9587
@evonmoir9587 Ай бұрын
I voted for Te Pati not knowing this party would be using my vote for their private agenda How many of you who are in this party are full blooded Maori and turning my vote into something I would never have supported due to the fact I am from mixed blood my children, my mokos and my great mokos how dare you belittle me and my whanau both Maori and Pakeha also Tongan Niuen Chinese I now realise what a huge mistake I have I do not support racism in any way shape or form both black brown and white. Start doing the job we put there for to make sure our people get the support they need such as health homes jobs education and their wellbeing not this crap you are feeding our youngs with All you have done is made my role as a great Nana Nana mother aunty mother inlaw sister sister inlaw a whole lot harder as if I haven't enough to deal because of this rhetoric both black and white.... Teaching all of my whanau to be proud of who and what they are. Evon Moir nee Edmonds nee Leaf nee Tito
@markhomewood7338
@markhomewood7338 Ай бұрын
@@evonmoir9587
@888Sooty
@888Sooty Ай бұрын
Her comments are insane Simultaneously claiming there are more Maori than ever while claiming there is a genocide She clearly doesn’t understand the English language
@Katy99941
@Katy99941 Ай бұрын
Thank you Michael for an informative interview.
@iangeorge1333
@iangeorge1333 Ай бұрын
Thank you Shane Jones and Micheal. NZ is heading in a new direction thanks to your voices, one that creates free open and important dialogue. You are the new Media.
@Keepitsimple183
@Keepitsimple183 Ай бұрын
TPM are joke and at this point driving a wagon of hatred and division not only amongst Maori but also NZ society.
@craigscoullar564
@craigscoullar564 Ай бұрын
Shane jones has amazed me..and as a strong labour past supporter hes come good..i love his mature vision
@peterbrown7433
@peterbrown7433 Ай бұрын
Im no fan of Jones but he hit the nail on the head....TPM were emboldened because Adern was so clearly out of her depth and in fear of her Maori caucus and TPM...this is all a result of weak leadership on her behalf. Winston Peter, Jones, Seymour etc all show far more leadership and leading for all NZers than she or TPM have or will do.
@brucehardwick8824
@brucehardwick8824 Ай бұрын
There is only One Race; the Human Race !!
@jimijamesjowitt
@jimijamesjowitt Ай бұрын
Homosapiens and some are mixed with neanderthal and denisovan.
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
@brucehardwick8824 got that wrong why is one race is treated differently from another race then forgetting traditional cultural think again
@mikebutler2761
@mikebutler2761 Ай бұрын
@@Duckz558 you are spot on , brucey boy is obviously white and delusional, there is only one colour that has been enslaved and been victims of apartheid and it's not my race
@karenrhodes9973
@karenrhodes9973 Ай бұрын
What amazes me is that one race can ask from all other races what they themselves don't give........respect! I respect only those who EARN respect!
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
both ways don’t you think?
@karenrhodes9973
@karenrhodes9973 Ай бұрын
@@Duckz558 Hohum.
@Chronicz120
@Chronicz120 Ай бұрын
That tutae pati is run by JT the Waipareira Trust ceo skimming money from the trust accounts intrest free to fund his muppet show with Rawiri and Debbie at the wheel steering towards the ditch.
@bunning63
@bunning63 Ай бұрын
Ti Pati Maori reminds as that one million identity as Maori, of some proportion. Ti Pati Maori doesn't appear to have the greymatter collectively, that most don't vote for their racist, bigoted rhetoric.
@Digmen1
@Digmen1 Ай бұрын
I wonder how many of the Maori Party MPs are more than half maori?
@bac5040
@bac5040 Ай бұрын
​@@Digmen1none
@pauljones3062
@pauljones3062 Ай бұрын
Most are less than 20% Maori so what is the other 80% !!! Most are less than 10% but are eligible for more welfare!!
@charlieb9064
@charlieb9064 Ай бұрын
​@@pauljones3062I'm 25% and will never identify with that lot. I was raised to work hard and never take whats not mine. These Maori leaders want a nation of lazy, entitled welfare kings and queens.
@logicalanswer3529
@logicalanswer3529 Ай бұрын
@@Digmen1 0
@nzkid2599
@nzkid2599 Ай бұрын
“I’m a victim because I’m Māori “ blah blah blah sick of the victim hood mentality among these ones
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
they only push something like tis when they want something of maori inheritance always see it through history
@kiwi792
@kiwi792 Ай бұрын
His last statements are why Nz first needs to remain in parliament.
@stevehughes1510
@stevehughes1510 Ай бұрын
Cindy allowed moari free rein, in fact Labour allowed everything free rein, gangs, crime, gays etc etc
@jonathanwright5550
@jonathanwright5550 Ай бұрын
Bit worse than that she endorsed gangs literally had financial contracts with em
@stevehughes1510
@stevehughes1510 Ай бұрын
@@jonathanwright5550 Can you enlarge on that please Jonathan. We know she gave $2.6 million to the Mongrel Mob for 'drug rehabilitation'. How else did her Labour Party cozy up to gangs.
@MrFairlane58
@MrFairlane58 Ай бұрын
I appreciate the way Michael listens to the interviewee, as opposed to Sean Plunket's style.
@jsurinderveygal561
@jsurinderveygal561 Ай бұрын
You are spot on Shane. T.hank you
@trevordance3453
@trevordance3453 Ай бұрын
In 1945, a "full and final" settlement of all maori claims was made by the then government, paid by the taxpayer to maori Iwi which was so enormous, it was paid over 30 years in instalments. in the 1950s there were 295,000 part maori defined as being half or more than half maori. Since then, they are way more inbred with other races. As iwi realised the money was going to stop being paid in 1974, they both re-defined what is a maori in 1974 and started civil unrest which lead to the Treaty of Waitangi Act 1975 which has led to the New Zealand taxpayer paying a further $36 BILLION to maori Iwi, up to 2018 which equates to $122,000 per maori as defined in the 50s. The question we should be asking is where is all the money and why is it only the so called "maori elite" that benefit from these huge taxpayer funded payouts ? These crooks need to keep the hate propaganda running to keep the money running for themselves. What we should be saying is, how about you give all the money back to the government and they share it amongst ALL the poor which you keep claiming are mostly maori, would that not be the best way to solve maori poverty instead of blaming the very people who are paying the tax ?
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
@trevordance3453 peanuts 🥜 compared to what maori endured doesn’t really change a thing it seems tell me theses so call reparations what were they paid out for? criminal acts? racial abuse? what’s the facts to it all if you think you know
@kiwitoffee
@kiwitoffee Ай бұрын
@trevordance3453 totally agree. These people are shameless.
@trevordance3453
@trevordance3453 Ай бұрын
@@Duckz558 Well Duckz, you can look them all up. Now imagine this. There is a group of people in a room who have to decide what to pay. Many of the people in the room will be the recipients of the money or their lawyers, no actual evidence is required to be presented other than "statements" (maori call this oral history) no cross-examination is done. After every one who is interested has said their bit, negotiations begin on how much taxpayers money will be handed over. The taxpayer's interests are NOT represented and no defence against the claim is made. Then they write up the "claim" as a piece of legislation and it is passed. Anyone who does not vote "for" the legislation is then called a racist and their tenure in parliament is therefore limited. Compare this farcical "tribunal" with a real court where actual evidence is required and can be questioned for both authenticity and relevance and an independent assessment is made of right and wrong by a jury. If that was not an open check-book ready for abuse, I do not know what is... but it gets worse. The claims now routinely finish up with "this does not preclude further claims being made in future". So what are the claims actually based on ? Here is a typical scenario. Hone Heke went to Australia and purchased muskets with money given to him by the British. After signing the Treaty and agreeing to peace, he then went on a rampage around NZ killing other iwi and settlers alike - this was treason. He was warned that he would lose his lands if he did not stop, he did not stop and lost his lands - he was not executed as was routine for British at the time. Fast forward to 1975 and now the taxpayer today are "compensating" people who may have had ancestors of this murderous thug or his relatives ...with today's taxpayers money for loss of their lands. Maori are neither indigenous nor entitled, but the elite "maori" have fooled stupid politicians who want maori votes and white guilt-tripped liberals, into saying "give them the money". Meanwhile poor maori will not see this money....
@trevordance3453
@trevordance3453 Ай бұрын
@@kiwitoffee Yes, but they are making a living doing it and some iwi are wealthy beyond their dreams and spend the money on themselves - look up their published accounts - I did ...they take the money as "directors loans" and so do not even pay taxes.
@kimbliss1329
@kimbliss1329 Ай бұрын
​@Duckz558 SOME Maori were treated, badly by SOME of the people who came here for a better life. We cant rewrite history, but we can learn from it, if we want to. Do i need to pay reparation for things that happened to people I don't know and never met, caused by people I don't know and never met, almost a century before I was born so had no chance of changing what happened anyway. I have maori family members, do you think they believe Im a monster seeking genocide? Do you think they even notice I'm not Maori, much less care about it? Let me help you out, they don't give a stuff about my colour and neither do I care about theirs. Why? Because it doesnt matter, I love them for the amazing people they are. Time for Waititi, Ngariwa-Packer and the evil Maori Party to stop their hate speech, because they're really starting to harm people.
@kenbearsley8322
@kenbearsley8322 Ай бұрын
Maybe someone like Shane and Karen Chhour needs to take the maori party to the human rights commission and race relations tribunal and have them on hate speech and racism. That's also it, how ist it pakeha can be taken to the race relations on racism yet pakeha aren't allowed to or get frowned upon if we take any other race to the race relations?! Isn't that contradictory of what it's there for?
@zweed69
@zweed69 Ай бұрын
human rights commission is fully compromised
@karunac1311
@karunac1311 Ай бұрын
the human rights commission has been captured by TPM
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
@karunac1311 not at all tpm are demonstrating same level the likes of acts/nzf really
@zweed69
@zweed69 Ай бұрын
compromised
@Waioki
@Waioki Ай бұрын
Nice Shane!
@jeffmcintyre2091
@jeffmcintyre2091 Ай бұрын
Nice shane keep up the great work u r doin❤
@barbarahollowayscott1998
@barbarahollowayscott1998 Ай бұрын
This should be required listening for us all.
@paulthomson2288
@paulthomson2288 Ай бұрын
This is exactly the type of toxic radical blood shaming "tribalism" and prime reason why many Maori signed the treaty of Waitangi.
@irahdrake1910
@irahdrake1910 Ай бұрын
This needs prime time TV viewing / discussion . Most of us, see it , hear it, know it and understand it happening before our eyes... but good on you Michael and Shane for balls against the mike . Just wondering - do you think it's possible that there maybe foreign influence and backing of any sort connected to this radicalized movement of this parties political cognitive dissonance ?
@colinpreston8232
@colinpreston8232 Ай бұрын
Our main stream TV is to busy going out of business, this sort of serious news and discussion is way beyond their woke view of NZ.
@pgreen8531
@pgreen8531 Ай бұрын
Shane jones puts thing so very well
@gayejenkins7913
@gayejenkins7913 Ай бұрын
Omg what a great interview
@delinquentinparadise
@delinquentinparadise Ай бұрын
Is there one law in this country for all ? Or is there one law for Māori and another for the rest of us ? If we had a Prime Minister with some guts he would answer this and deal with racism from either side of spectrum. But Luxon is sadly lacking in anything other than the pursuit of ever more trade at whatever cost to our country.
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
@delinquentinparadise yous don’t even follow your own laws little lone knowing the meaning what about the same justice does that come into the equation?
@jonathanwright5550
@jonathanwright5550 Ай бұрын
We have a priminister that stated biden was coherent....
@colinpreston8232
@colinpreston8232 Ай бұрын
@@jonathanwright5550 you do not understand politics.
@quintinsmith5400
@quintinsmith5400 Ай бұрын
40 years of life, all I've ever seen is denial that Maori treat others with utter disrespect.
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
quintinsmith5400 yeah european are knowing to be disrespectful to other cultures of the lands 🌎wide
@Millektm
@Millektm Ай бұрын
Thank goodness we have now some intelligent politicians speaking out against this ridiculous accidic revolting woe is me Cow Patty party nonsense , the fact that he is Maori as well makes his views even better , go Shane .!!
@ianfaulkner238
@ianfaulkner238 Ай бұрын
Well said Shane
@Winstonsmithsalias
@Winstonsmithsalias Ай бұрын
The Maori party appeal to their voter base.. Jake Heke types. Pathetic!!
@sandralibeau4795
@sandralibeau4795 Ай бұрын
Back in the early 1980s when I worked at MFAT we knew some Maori activists were going to Cuba for Communist training. This makes me wonder whether the current Maori politicians are also being trained by communists, although with the near- total infiltration of NZ by communism/ socialism maybe they're simply soaking up the ideology within NZ??
@mikewalters5815
@mikewalters5815 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately some people have the Idea that the Minority Rules 😅
@AmonAnon-vw3hr
@AmonAnon-vw3hr Ай бұрын
Because in NZ, it does.
@stevesmith1923
@stevesmith1923 Ай бұрын
@@AmonAnon-vw3hr It's the white,western, way.
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
@@stevesmith1923 so you think you’ll be surprise minority can change the course
@stevesmith1923
@stevesmith1923 Ай бұрын
@@NA-sj9jy We are watching our societies fail in real time.
@cyrillawless
@cyrillawless Ай бұрын
The present MPs in the Maori party have always been like this. They have been racist activists since child hood. It’s only now they are in parliament that anyone is taking any notice.
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
you want maori locked🔒in the closet how its been for a 100yrs at least now Maori has gain recognition yous can’t handle controversy of intense arguments of rights but only implementation of racial slurs
@cyrillawless
@cyrillawless Ай бұрын
@@Duckz558 who is giving the racial slurs, oh it’s the Maori party
@annekevandenberg8165
@annekevandenberg8165 Ай бұрын
They could claim that making a cup of white tea out of tea bags is racist.
@RSS819
@RSS819 Ай бұрын
Debbie the dog ain’t a Mowry ow!!
@cyrillawless
@cyrillawless Ай бұрын
Did their seats come from Maori or did they manipulate the vote As has been suggested.
@Mizpah5
@Mizpah5 Ай бұрын
Why are they police not taking action on Maori Party hate speech. Or, should I say, Part Maori Party hate speech.
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
all parties are speaking the same language of tone no difference to the likes of winny seymour and jones
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
@Mizpah5 fake news keep looking you will find the truth 🎉
@lindamckenzie6500
@lindamckenzie6500 27 күн бұрын
Excellent 👌 Shane...you really know how it is....
@timhiggins1255
@timhiggins1255 Ай бұрын
And the Act party leader who also has naori blood
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
but on another boat of his european heritage it seems like the few of them now discovered that don’t talk for every maori as it stands
@bettylafu7246
@bettylafu7246 Ай бұрын
Thank you, Michael and Shane, Respect for the Real Maori of recent past, however no time now for the enth 16th 32th 64th smidgen of Maori blood who have (my observation) morphed the beauty of Maori Histories with ideologies from corrupt leaders /idols from the east europe and asia for their own self gain, rather sad.
@jameslovering9158
@jameslovering9158 Ай бұрын
How is that not hate speech ?
@abrahamreti1595
@abrahamreti1595 Ай бұрын
Too many woman in politics that have no skills.
@shanethomson2963
@shanethomson2963 Ай бұрын
well said
@jasonberry7687
@jasonberry7687 Ай бұрын
When does jabcindas hate speech laws kick in or is that just for non moari
@logicalanswer3529
@logicalanswer3529 Ай бұрын
100% correct.
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
@@logicalanswer3529 💯what?
@colechambers9524
@colechambers9524 Ай бұрын
E tautoko ana au i ngā kōrero katoa o Shane Jones MP. It is my view as a Māori that this is indeed what is happening here in our country. People are being emotionally manipulated and heavily influenced to adopt the position of victim. TPM are being exposed for their bigotry. One nation!
@logicalanswer3529
@logicalanswer3529 Ай бұрын
That is the way they usually speak. Nothing new.
@davidfentonhancock6646
@davidfentonhancock6646 Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Sharon-yk7xm
@Sharon-yk7xm Ай бұрын
NZ has been blackmailed by maori since day one it needs to stop.
@user-uq1rl6zs2b
@user-uq1rl6zs2b Ай бұрын
Trump
@lastkingz7386
@lastkingz7386 Ай бұрын
Maori party are dark with no fruits to show they're activist want to preach maori pagan beliefs,, wich should be a choice, to learn not to lead our lifes,, Being colonized is how you measure change,, ,from repecting all cultures,, and looking forward for a better,future, not to devide over old sores,, that will never heal,,
@julian4548
@julian4548 Ай бұрын
At most. Part Māori. I worry about the repressed or denied ethnicities they harbour.
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
@julian4548 maybe you need to read up until you do you would understand your maori side like non other
@scottsquire1053
@scottsquire1053 Ай бұрын
So why does no one do a protest against maori and the maori party?
@Thatsjustlikeuhmyopinionman
@Thatsjustlikeuhmyopinionman Ай бұрын
Because most NZers are chill and tolerant, and prefer to just ignore them. Also, most NZers believe in free speech. TMP are allowed to have their opinion. Just like anyone should be free to call them out on it. Unfortunately if there *was* any kind of protest, you know the Human Rights Commission would be on it in a flash, and TV1 and Stuff would lead the news in outrage at the "divisive bigots and racists". In other words, having an opinion that disagrees with the TMP / left-wing narrative is dangerous in this country.
@andrewlim9345
@andrewlim9345 Ай бұрын
Interesting, didn't see the parallel between Te Pati Maori's race-based rhetoric and the Death Eaters of Harry Potter.
@judyirving7631
@judyirving7631 Ай бұрын
Te Putty Te Kaka !! NZ First Maori Are Great Again !!
@bittersweet340
@bittersweet340 Ай бұрын
I won't vote for rhetoric... Shane is right, I hate to be labelled as a Maori privilege....
@nigelhay9634
@nigelhay9634 Ай бұрын
TE Pati Maori should go back to Taiwon where we origionaly came from
@unclejoe7958
@unclejoe7958 Ай бұрын
Why do Maori who move overseas and live as independent individuals become successful ? They don’t feel restrained to think ,speak and act as a Maori. They don’t think and feel as a victim. They don’t blame other races for their downfalls. Te Pati despises these Maori individuals. Te Pati needs dependent, hopeless and angry constituents. Shane summed it up perfectly. 😊
@adriennepierce8224
@adriennepierce8224 3 күн бұрын
Free pass by the Speaker of the House! 🤷‍♀️
@BobBarb
@BobBarb Ай бұрын
The way TPM are, my vote is forced to be against everything Maori. I dont have a choice as I see it if I want a future here. Its all linked as far as I am concerned. I am a created voter by their retotic as I am only 5 years in NZ. I arrived with no idea of NZ politics and TBH didnt want to. Since arriving I have been allocated a race by Maori I never asked for having never had one all my life, then told because I am that race I am nothing to Maori. I get reminded every day on the news what I now am and if I need an extra reminder, I can try and catch the Jenny-May Clarkson Political Slot on Breakfast TV. I get TPM are fanatics and I read strong Moari opinion against them, but TPM are having a negative effect on everything Moari which isnt right but nobody is telling them to pull their head in, including Maori. I cant seperate IWI from TPM or Moari Wards. Their retoric has created me as a voter and to exist in NZ as Non Moari, I feel I have no choice to vote against everything they do. I am in effect cancelling out a fantatical pro TPM voter now. Nobody can tell me one policy the TPM has for non Maori?
@matai2437
@matai2437 Ай бұрын
Church that says it all
@WillyCLARKE-g8c
@WillyCLARKE-g8c Ай бұрын
Bigostry is not restricted.
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
from european
@ahungryspiderateme
@ahungryspiderateme Ай бұрын
Kupe's Curse.
@dianemaurice7202
@dianemaurice7202 29 күн бұрын
Shameful dangerous comments. Let's look ahead with togetherness not backwards. Debbie should be stood down not fit to be a politician in this country.
@kelz6569
@kelz6569 Ай бұрын
This book... Witi Ihimaera Sleeps Standing Moetu with HEMI KELLY published 16th April 2016 I think this is what Hon. Shane Jones is talking about. No, I have not read this book.
@richardgoodwin8145
@richardgoodwin8145 Ай бұрын
The comparison between Gaza and Singapore provides a salutary comparison. Both have little in the way of natural resources other than their people. In Palestine, activism around land ownership, ethnicity and toxic religion has inflamed seperation and violence. It has left the people of Palestine, broken and destitute. I am not saying that there isn't a place to address historic grievences, but the way chosen by Hamas, is in my view, is not the way forward. A man much wiser than me once said that "by your fruits you will know them". Compare the outcomes with that of Singapore. Here a tiny nation state (with a higher population density than Gaza), comprised of four principle ethnic group including Malay's (The historic occupants of the land, colonised by the British in the 19th century and occupied by the Japanese in the 20th cent), Indians, Chinese, and English. Each group has its own cultural and religious beliefs, - Muslem, Buddhism, Hindism and Christianity. And yet, under wise leadership, they have been able to develop a vision for the united nation of Singapore, a nation that transcended other ethnic and religious loyalties, Singapore has thrived. It is peaceful, prosperous and successful. The various ethnicities have retained their culture and religion, but these differences haven't become a source of conflict. You can visit Little India, China Town and the Moselm quarter and experince their unique, rich cultural expressons. Today Gaza is broken, and Singapore is thriving. Potentially, Gaza (and Israel) could be another Singapore. Seperatism is not the way forward to a peaceful and prosperous future.
@maorintewhare
@maorintewhare Ай бұрын
Bluey Shane Jones.....
@sjxt1556
@sjxt1556 Ай бұрын
De Shane, I went straight to Harry Potter when I heard “blood traitor” too…how are there still people that didn’t understand the moral of that story.
@karenbolton9526
@karenbolton9526 Ай бұрын
Is he reminds me of mortises of Adam’s family touch of craziness about her ha ha
@michaeljoseph9510
@michaeljoseph9510 Ай бұрын
Trying to be a Hoi poloi with his rhetoric!!!!!!
@user-wt4ie6iu6p
@user-wt4ie6iu6p Ай бұрын
Shane's translation of the term "moumou tou toto Maori" is 100 percent incorrect... Nowhere in that term is any word that translates to "traitor"... The term translated simply says... "A waste of your Maori blood"....nothing more.
@rodd22
@rodd22 Ай бұрын
The only time Shane Jones talks is when the hotel porn chanel is faulty
@royalenfieldracer7806
@royalenfieldracer7806 Ай бұрын
You lose credibility when you start talking genocide
@Buddhest
@Buddhest Ай бұрын
Shane is Kūpapa.. Nothing Māori about him‼️‼️Talking alot of Raruraru🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@tracymichaelsen493
@tracymichaelsen493 Ай бұрын
Shayne always neglects to say he's proud to be Maori. He hints at it yet when talking to a predominantly pakeha audience, he doesn't say he and his whanau are fluent in te Maori. That his moko are in kapa haka. He and Winston are where they are by NOT singing the praises of Maori. If they did have any even slightly perceived loyalty to Maori they'd be out. Pakeha love it when they get up in parliament and ridicule Maoridom as a whole except for the submissive quiet Maori. I am very sure Winston and Shayne started out to help Maori by getting their bums in there. Yet to stay and get as high as they are they've had to effectively eat their own kind. Hence the Harry Potter comment. Shayne did you know was beaten badly by police for being Anti the South African tour back in the day? No of coarse you don't. Maori are proud of these 2 men as we know just how much they have had to endure to help our people. You'll even hear Winston say how he fought tirelessly to help places like Opotiki. We love these 2 men. And the new Maori member of the National Party. What a fine well spoken Maori man. Sometime change should be embraced. Maori are getting tired of seeing our Shaynes and Winston work so tirelessly for very little thanks across the board except from racists getting hard from them belittling there own. What do Shayne and Winston tick on a pakeha official form? Maori or something else?
@dannytaukamo4664
@dannytaukamo4664 Ай бұрын
Ca
@JoeHarker-vp5lq
@JoeHarker-vp5lq Ай бұрын
Shane jones says this whilst national and act exists . It doesnt get any more racist than act and national . As a white person you probably think im wrong but this is how most maori feel sure there are some token ones expressing a different opinion to mine on this channel but they are an exception to the rule .
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
@delinquentinparadise yous don’t even follow your own laws little lone knowing the meaning what about the same justice does that come into the equation?
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
@karunac1311 not at all tpm are demonstrating same level of behaviour the likes of acts/nzf really
@Duckz558
@Duckz558 Ай бұрын
yous only push something like tis when there is a need of something of maori inheritance always, displayed through history same bull💩needing to change laws to suit themselves in doing so leaving the actuals (owners) out
@mattyg9
@mattyg9 29 күн бұрын
Could atleast try to pronounce Māori correctly
@lockk132
@lockk132 Ай бұрын
Thing is Maori were obviously promised alot in the treaty and got ripped.I dont really care if there are Maori out there whom wish to have self autonomy.I have all ready worked out how it can operate alongside the current system and at minimal cost.I even sent the Maori party my concept of how a dual system can work.Of cause no reply ,because theyre all mouth and little actual thought out substance
@rd.3696
@rd.3696 Ай бұрын
Lets all be one in New Zealand.Stop this racial bullshit.I repect everyone be they pink,white,black,Irish,Maori, not one rule for a certain race.What is that called.Racism springs to mind.
@rob81915
@rob81915 Ай бұрын
Funny how my historically correct comments are immediately removed... it does make you wonder.?
@magingi
@magingi Ай бұрын
They are not imbued with integrity.
@rob81915
@rob81915 Ай бұрын
BINGO...mt last comment on the PLATFORM removed....useless to comment here unless you accept this reporters narrative..
@magingi
@magingi Ай бұрын
It is not good. Not good sat all!!!
@rob81915
@rob81915 Ай бұрын
Test
@magingi
@magingi Ай бұрын
Test. Comments vanishing with you too huh.
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