Shane Jones Tells Us What He Likes About The Treaty Principles Bill

[@quintinsmith5400]

Our teachers shouldn't be pushing their politics in the classrooms.

[@5150show]

Homeschooling is the only remedy

[@JimmyJenks-u8v]

I'm guessing far right politics gets through though, in your version of utopia. Religion too? Hey we could have Stalin style pictures of Trump and Kim Jong Un in the classrooms. Keep Trump out of the locker rooms though aye!

[@hailzreignmanga]

I'm pretty sure they didn't have to go if their parents said no propaganda much?😂😅 stand on the right side of history the tapu of the treaty is being known. Whaka round and find out as they say😊

[@davidthomson692]

How do u think jacinda bitch got elected. By voters who were brainwashed at primary and secondary school 20 years earlier

[@Hendrixqv4qj]

Porno Shame Jones😂😂😂WTF takes him seriously🤔🤔🤔 Definitely not his iwi and Hapu. Grease Monkey lined his pockets while he was working for iwi, then flipped🤣🤣🤣

[@markphillips5368]

Shane Jones is right - the Sovereignty of parliament is paramount. As such parliament has the right to make laws and govern the country. Chris Luxon's comments on what he didn't like about the Treaty Principles bill sends a chilling message to the electors of New Zealand who put him in his position in order to sort out the mess that we find ourselves in with the likes of Te Pati Maori demanding a separate maori parliament alongside the one we currently have and laws that give preferential treatment to specific groups of society based on their ancestry. Such a system has been tried many times in the past, the most recent being apartheid in South Africa, which is now no longer, and caused major protests here in New Zealand back in 1981 when the racially selected Springbok rugby team toured here. Most New Zealanders do not want this system in this country.

[@JoeGage-f3y]

Yeah white owned Africa (crown) they called Nelson Mandela a terrorist

[@Tutulowblow]

He's only saying that because he has some pull in there.

[@karlharrison2449]

There needs to be a referendum on what the Treaty means to all New Zealanders. It has to happen and it will happen.

[@lynnebarnes3840]

I will be ticking the box that says, "no apartheid".

[@panimarsh9910]

No it won’t, if you don’t know what the treaty means to you now, then you will never know!😁

[@user-bw5nc]

It won't happen bro, believe me. I'm 61 in February, the government has been spealing the same sht all my life. Get real, it's a pyramid scheme, using tax dollars to fund it.

[@massproductionsnz]

Already had one 1840

[@sonjasmith3414]

The treaty is simple. Pity that the experts trying to interpret it are as well.

[@lindachandler2247]

well said Shane,maori party stirring up trouble,wanting a seperate govt,that will never work.

[@standbytogo123]

Yeh, whose going to pay for it.

[@valeriehughes1008]

Totally correct Linda!

[@valeriehughes1008]

@@standbytogo123 We will with all the money we save on not paying for the gravy train riders!

[@Tutulowblow]

@@standbytogo123 Māori pay taxes too aye

[@Tutulowblow]

@@lindachandler2247 If only Māori didn't scare you so much

[@SneedTechIndustries-gf5hn]

Using the kids politically is sad. The amount paid in treaty settlements is so insane. If they gave it to their actual people instead of just grifting there would be no complaints.

[@Tutulowblow]

More is missed out on in tax fraud by rich people, most of them aren't Māori.

[@allanwood4771]

@@Tutulowblow You should go and get a job ,so you can get off the gravy train.

[@colinrichards3012]

Mairi businesses don't pay tax!​@@Tutulowblow

[@colindigitaljames6619]

​@@Tutulowblowit's the rich with companies that pay the taxes and provide employment to people who then pay more taxes compared to the ones sucking up the tax funds and sitting at home all their lives eating kfc.

[@sammyswish]

Im a māori act voting conservative but have to you out. The treaty settlements ARE TINY by any metric.. total all time payout = 2-3 weeks of superannuation..

[@Elawz]

Right on the buck Matua Shane 🤙🏾

[@bigboy0625]

There is a clear diversity in this country there is Maori that get anything they ask for and the Non Maori that get nothing. Everything new today has a Maori name that nobody can even say it or spell it. Let's not forget how this country was built and who built it.

[@user-bw5nc]

3 questions.. 1: Which ethnicity box do you tick? 2:Do you agree with division? 3: Do you think Māori cause the division?

[@pauljones3062]

Maorification of NZ & being pushed by All Woke NZ Media.

[@Tutulowblow]

Big boy making the big mistakes in thought and understanding. Māori get nothing, Pākehā have gotten and still get everything. Just look at who is controlling everything. Just because you can't pronounce the language of this land doesn't mean a thing. Educate yourself.

[@standbytogo123]

@@Tutulowblow bigboy's last sentence says it all.

[@allanwood4771]

@@user-bw5nc Spot on with that one .well written👍

[@sjcameron5592]

That teacher needs to be sanctioned.

[@lynnebarnes3840]

Sectioned, more like the ego of it...

[@Tutulowblow]

I thought you were all about free speech on here?

[@sjcameron5592]

@ free speech is not to impressionable children…that’s indoctrination. How about we spend your tax dollars on teaching children that heroin and cocaine are fine to take…. Thats a free speech kind of idea…. Political ideation is not school work. Nor is taking them to political rallies.

[@allanwood4771]

@@Tutulowblow It’s all about FreeSpeech on here , You just need to accept the consequences.

[@boltang]

@@Tutulowblow Free speech doesn't mean illegally indoctrinating kids with politics!

[@jeremysmith5232]

we want equality, we want the gravy train for part maori iwi elites to stop, from councils as well as government, we want the waitangi tribunal wound up, moari wards and maori seats removed, nothing more, all of these things are just the unwinding of apartied from our law and one rule of law for everyone with no special cases in anything established. what we want is simple and not complicated at all Shane, we want equality.

[@lynnebarnes3840]

I agree.

[@valeriehughes1008]

Absolutely

[@gomez4554]

Perhaps the very first time I ever agreed with Mr Shane Jones ... it's definitely best to no pissed about with our Peace Treaty, because that in itself will have consequences... Not so sure if unintended though but most definitely unnecessary when NZ already has a Bill of Rights .

[@Tutulowblow]

Equality already exists, get seymour's voice out of your head. You will feel better.

[@Tutulowblow]

@@jeremysmith5232 We want, want, want! Get over it. Pākehā already have everything

[@bobboardman1156]

I support Seymour and this Bill. Present direction of TOW interpretation has been apartheid and the Tribunal has gone from addressing grievance to fostering and creating it as an industry - needs to be disbanded.

[@bart5953]

Public submissions are now being called for Principles of the Treaty of the Bill. Go summit yours for the selected committee.

[@billschneider1893]

Let them govern themselves using their own money.

[@Tutulowblow]

Chur!

[@jeremysmith5232]

after they have paid us back all the reparations they have taken

[@user-bw5nc]

Who is 'them'?.... do you mean the people that helped build the country?

[@allanwood4771]

@@user-bw5nc He is meaning Māori .what part don’t you understand?

[@user-bw5nc]

@@allanwood4771 So they think Māori should govern themselves? Why don't they just say that?? And do you see how ridiculous that is?? Who's going to man the roadiing infrastructure, the meat industry, factory work in general, fisheries,.. You know, the industries that keep the economy ticking, etc etc???? It's not a great plan mate. Actually, what part do non Māori contribute? Lol Apart from government/council positions, ripping the every day kiwi off..... they're only good at complaining about Māori..😂

[@klburroughsnz]

I hope no one on this march to parliament is on the dole (my tax money) taking time away from trying to find paid employment.

[@lynnebarnes3840]

Well, they don't seem to have jobs that they need to hold down.

[@Tutulowblow]

Lol, the government are on your money too

[@Mark-g6l7i]

WINZ Sponsored Hikoi of the Hopeless

[@allanwood4771]

@@lynnebarnes3840 They don’t have jobs and they never will.

[@Tutulowblow]

@@lynnebarnes3840 You don't know anything about them. I think you're actually scared of Māori

[@kenking3188]

Any number of lawyers made fortunes shafting non maori NZers, isnt time lawyers took on the fight for fairness and balance in NZ and in support for non maori NZ. The so called crown does not represent non maori. One person one vote, all equal under the law. The crown has stolen vast amounts of treasure and handed over to invented entities that were not even around at the time of the signing.

[@Dave-un7fh]

You don't make sense.

[@allanwood4771]

@@Dave-un7fh So what part do you not understand ,and doesn’t make sense to you

[@user-bw5nc]

​@@Dave-un7fhLong story short: The government divides us by ethnicity, and still does., much like South Africa did. Now the government sits back, giving out bs jobs to their mates... in turn, keeps the pyramid scheme going.

[@allanwood4771]

I understand that the top of the South Island is going to be gifted to the Māori plus a few billion dollars compensation ……..FOR WHAT? Just wait for the replys ……To say that it was stolen of us…..😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@allanwood4771]

@ You shouldn’t be using your iPad from (your closet.) But at least it got your attention while you’re in there.

[@boltang]

The support for David and ACT now is amazing and Kiwis are clearly choosing their future PM! Good on ya NZ for voting ACT next election!!

[@alistermacpherson7120]

There isn't actually an election until 2026.David or any of us could be gone by then

[@darrylwikohika9068]

8.64% voted Act a mere drop in the ocean 😂😂😅😅😅

[@alistermacpherson7120]

@@boltang Yes so amazing even The Greens poll twice as much.

[@boltang]

@darrylwikohika9068 not now.Nz now know ACT. For years kiwis didn't give them a go. Now it's a fast track to the top. NZ needs a leader like Seymour.

[@boltang]

@alistermacpherson7120 greens are on way out .

[@whizxconz]

Remove the gravy train and problem sorts itself

[@Tutulowblow]

Where is the gravy train? I can't find it...

[@lynnebarnes3840]

​@@Tutulowblowyou're pretending not to look.

[@janbrown9195]

Thank the Ardern government for the endless gravy train and the division in our ethnic groups.

[@JimBenbow-d4o]

@@Tutulowblow Look in the tribal elites bank account

[@allanwood4771]

@@Tutulowblow That’s the trouble with being blind to the fact

[@kiwi792]

NZ first have been one of the shining lights of the new Government IMO. Thank goodness for Winston and Shane Jones. Men of common sense. I hope they garner more support next time around.

[@JohnEBadham]

@@kiwi792 NZF will vote against the bill at second reading too. "Winston and Shane men of common sense"!!!!

[@NevAdrienneAugust]

And yet after so much talk, they have done nothing to stop the gravy train, because they benefit from it too.................would not ever vote for him again, Luxon will be the same.......

[@sonjasmith3414]

Sorry, it`s New Zealand, until we have a referendum that says otherwise.

[@Tutulowblow]

A name given by a Dutchman who didn't make landfall? Strong foundation to the name you love. That's actually a good analogy for your perspectives too

[@stretch4130]

​@@Tutulowblow if you did your research and look at the Maori version of the treaty aotearoa isn't written anywhere in the document nz is known as Nu Tereni or Nu Tirani it's amazing how many Maori don't know this simple fact

[@koro287]

@@Tutulowblow No landfall because all he saw were savages in grass skirts looking for their next meal.

[@JohnEBadham]

@@sonjasmith3414 have look on your passport and banknotes. Aotearoa is there. Also in our national anthem. Get over it!

[@sonjasmith3414]

@@JohnEBadham IT is people getting over IT that allows IT to happen. You obviously have no skin in the game or are asleep, so don`t care. One day you will wake up.

[@PeteLudz]

I wonder... If Act were to withdraw from the coalition...... Would that trigger an early election....??? .... There is the referendum....An early election....

[@lynnebarnes3840]

It needs to be more specific, the last election was won on the "change" rhetoric.

[@JohnEBadham]

How would an early election trigger a referendum? And a CIR is not binding on the government anyway.

[@johnmead8437]

Very good chance the Left will get back in, & while current gang is seriously bad in many ways, it could be worse. Seymour & Peters are unlikely saviours, & while Seymour is using parliamentary time on this bill, it might block some of nationals' indignities getting time.

[@thewhalsons7624]

Heres the solution. I was born here and lived here most of my life. I am of Anglo-Saxon and Irish descent. I identify now as a Pacific Islander and my father came on a ship. I was born on an island in the Pacific ocean, that clearly makes me a native of this Island. This is equal to any claim that Maori make regarding there ancestors that came from other Pacific islands, on a open ocean canoe. I now identify as a white Maori.

[@Tutulowblow]

No one is denying your place here. But your comment is denying the, far longer, historical association of Polynesians to this part of the world. The natives are the ones that arrived first. No one is trying to say you are not from here though, but don't denegrate indigenous people's claims by claiming to be a 'native'. Your Anglo-Saxon and Irish ancestors referred to Māori people as the natives, not those coming from Britain and Europe.

[@lynnebarnes3840]

I agree.

[@seanodwyer4322]

Read allot in Librarys about white humans in new zealand before brown humans or other.

[@angelabritten48]

I like the idea of being a Pacific Islander, me too 😂😅

[@thewhalsons7624]

You see the problem with my claim or statement was they were here first so they can jump the line at A & E? Or get prioritised cancer treatment? The problem is people on this rock keep looking backwards instead of looking forwards. Why do we still need a treaty? Is the treaty the problem, is that what divides some of us? A lot of New Zealanders look at it as just a bureaucratic cash cow and a raid on our taxes. I reckon we need to draw a line in the sand. If settlements aren't completed by the state. Bugger. It's time to move on, form a real constitutional republic and get away from this democracy system that is a cover up for slavery under the crown.

[@grant6895]

The headmaster and board of the Naenae School need to be sacked and parents sho are concerned about their child's education need to change schools

[@johnmead8437]

It's a long-term culture thing, inside info from an ex headmistress (drinking problem)

[@tama5570]

Thank goodness for the platform to give voice to what I believe is the majority of New Zealanders. ACT + NZ First leadership is absolutely critical at this time.

[@alistermacpherson7120]

@@tama5570 Winston & David don't even like each other

[@JohnEBadham]

@@tama5570 NZF is opposing the bill at second reading too, so your comment doesn't make sense.

[@tama5570]

@ you gotta look at the bigger picture

[@JohnEBadham]

@@tama5570 The big picture is the bill will not become law because National and NZF will stop it at second reading.

[@tama5570]

@ no that’s a short term view. Big picture means higher level longer term view.

[@dobbynp]

Aotearoa.....a name solely for the North Island. It was never a name for New Zealand

[@geofflewis8599]

Yes, the Nga Puhi name for Te Motu -the North Island..

[@Dave-un7fh]

​@gdm4762Kupe is Maori myth. Please don't try to make Kupe into some historical figure. Also, Cook did not "rename" NZ. New Zealand is simply the English translation of Dutch.

[@savagesaint4317]

Where is the source for that? As far as I know It was just the first words said by the wife of kupe just before sighting the land. It is the name for the discovery and land itself, not a specific area. But like I said if you have a source that says the wife of kupe specifically meant the north Island and not the discovery of land itself, Im open to new knowledge.

[@geofflewis8599]

@@Dave-un7fh funny thing is Aotearoa and New Zealand both mean much the same thing..

[@bac5040]

​@gdm4762 stop making shit up.

[@Muzza-D]

I like your forthright talk regarding mining and oil Shane, but on this you need to get in touch with the people and ask them about this bill. You are just following Peters and Luxon. Both of these leaders will not be part of the next government, but Seymour will.

[@hamishglenn4900]

Hey, you might be in a bit of an echo chamber where everyone around you is saying the same thing about this bill and voting Act

[@johnmead8437]

Forthright talking about a different but very familiar issue has had MP Jones (& several local MP's/council members) make totally non-factual public interpretations, and base policy on that. So belief in statements from those sources needs fact checking about history and consequences. Includes mining, which is not opposing all his mining initiatives, or supporting all in their current form.

[@ryanc9241]

Weak. Piss weak. The political appitite from the elctorate (ie most normal Kiwis) is undeniably there, yet you and National back away soley to maintain appearances. Weak

[@valeriehughes1008]

I agree with Shane Jones... it is a discussion we have to have to honour all our citizens of NZ and give them all equal rights under the law. More than 5 million people in NZ are non Maori. This bill takes nothing away from Maori and leaves all their customary rights and treaty settlements... Note who the squealers.are - TPM who represents only 3% of Maori and Willie Jackson the multi millionaire activist who lives in the largest mansion in Sth Auckland...these activists are gravy train riders and if this bill passes it makes them irrelevant.

[@roscomart]

Ignorant keha

[@lynnebarnes3840]

Exactly.

[@iosefaandrews2351]

Agreed but the problem is it may be a case of the tail wagging the dog because if people are willing to go on a hikoi not fully understanding why they are there, nor have a full understanding of the treaty, then we are sleepwalking ourselves into a separatist dare I say apartheid state which by all accounts nz seems to be heading towards.

[@valeriehughes1008]

@@iosefaandrews2351 Time for the nonsense to cease.. first Maori know they are not the ingenious peoples there are still descendants of the first people to NZ surviving.. Waitaha , Ngati Hou, Moriori...both these peoples were all but wiped out by Maori. Maori at best are among the first people... if they cannot be satisfied with their customary rights and land settlements already given and the concessions they have been given over the years...eg no rates on Maori lands, no income tax for Maori business, fishing quotas to name but a few... and being equal to all other citizens of NZ is something they cannot accept then it is time the nation demanded a referendum to scrap the treaty completely.

[@valeriehughes1008]

@@iosefaandrews2351 Perhaps John Tamihere was right when he was videoed at the last election calling Maori dumb and they need to be told how to think and what to do!

[@stephenlaurence8650]

Luxon relied on ACT and NZF to form a coalition government. He knew what was coming so is reneging on coalition partners. If ACT and NZF let him of the hook then we would all know this political venture is just a charade if not a con job!

[@Dave-un7fh]

Wrong. Luxon has always (unfortunately) said the National Party under his leadership will not support the Bill after the first reading. This has been repeated by Luxon on numerous occasions. Where on Earth do you get your information from?????

[@stephenlaurence8650]

@@Dave-un7fh I wrote he knew what was coming. ACT and NZF should drive it home otherwise the cost of this Treat Principles Bill is a waste of money and all smoke and mirrors, BS in other words.

[@standbytogo123]

@@Dave-un7fh Time to roll the leadership

[@JohnEBadham]

They all signed coalition agreements. Provided they stick to that nobody has reneged. And NZF are also not supporting Act's bill into law, so have they reneged too?

[@stephenlaurence8650]

@@JohnEBadham With all the antics, the first reading of the bill passed. Shame it stops there but left open for debate.

[@peterbrophy3478]

its nice that the employers gave the people time off to annoy everyone while they are protesting

[@Tutulowblow]

How dare you be annoyed!!! Lol

[@seanodwyer4322]

Staff from new Auckland city mission- ''homeground - are thick as thieves concerning this insanity.- they should be the staff off mason Clinic,

[@davidfentonhancock6646]

What a fine man is Shane Jones. Thank you so much for bring us these intelligent debates and interviews which should of course be on our National Media but for the meddling of Labour and Willie.......

[@blackline-qf6fl]

Peter Williams is what's required to handle the Treaty, be nice to see him here on the platform reporting/interviewing informing us on a weekly bases.

[@Tutulowblow]

Peter is an opinionated old man who thinks his opinion is right because he has it. He is extremely ill-informed and out of touch. We're not in the 70s, 80s anymore

[@roscomart]

😅😅😅

[@Tutulowblow]

@@blackline-qf6fl lol

[@brianhenderson4736]

I'm proud of Shane Jones and stand for one person one vote

[@Tutulowblow]

That is what we have in NZ today, I don't get two votes except for party and candidate. Who gets to vote twice?

[@lynnebarnes3840]

@@Tutulowblow it's when you get a position with no votes required like those Maori on local councils is when we get into really undemocratic territory. Stone age people, with tribes, chiefs and canabilism etc, are not renowned for their love of democracy.

[@Tutulowblow]

@@lynnebarnes3840 We are renowned for our love of the environment, our whānau, friends and communities though. You need to get out and talk to more people so that you aren't so closed minded and misinformed, you really seem to not be able to think for yourself if seymour didn't tell you what to think. Embarrasing

[@Tutulowblow]

@@lynnebarnes3840 Plus, I vote for the local Māori ward, so that is democracy, not everything has to run past you

[@davethewave7248]

Let's put this 'Aotearoa' thing to bed. When the Nga Puhi and other chiefs sugned the He Whakaputunga with Busby in 1835 [a nominal sovereignty that was later used for the treaty of Waitangi], the name to refer to all the islands as a poltical and geographical totality/ unit was Nu Tireni. This is the maori pronunciation of New Zealand. Maori were also referred to be the first settlers as New Zealanders.

[@5150show]

Shane jones for PM

[@Vic-l3l]

Yesterday's StopCoGovernance Julian Batchelor had David Seymour on the front avatar & 10k views

[@Tutulowblow]

That's not many, considering the voting population

[@DW_Kiwi]

@@Tutulowblow Growing!!

[@damolux3388]

Sadly NZ is on the path to civil war. So divided these days. The last time I was in NZ the term 'coloniser' was unheard of. If we are such a tolerant society, why are we trying to hold current NZ citizens responsible for what their ancestors did while founding NZ. If this is the case, if the crown owes reparations for past deeds. Do Maori tribes owe one another for their past deeds? Or is that further down the track once the government has been bleed and all claims settled. Will tribes then be into one another arguing over who got more and who owes who for past victories and defeats? Hopefully cannibalism doesn't make a return!

[@Tutulowblow]

You know iwi have already gone through trying to rectify relationships and past wars. Just compare colonisation to Māori predominantly fighting to protect their borders.Taking the whole country, language, lives, culture, compared to....?

[@chrispilone-qq2uf]

The gravy train for certain Maori iwi elites needs to be put an end to. I saw a homeless urban Maori man begging outside PakNSave today. I bet he has never received a cent directly or indirectly from treaty settlements.

[@seanodwyer4322]

Queen Street- Auckland 1010. is packed with them.- most live in the new City mission Home ground Apartments on hobson street. 1010.

[@nzmeateater]

Top man Shane.

[@williamconnell6541]

Thanks

[@tonyharvey9916]

Shane hit the nail on the head. Parliament is a place for discussion. When that is stopped then you're losing your democracy

[@organics4you]

We all want to be treated equal. It's not that hard really but certain members of society now think they are more entitled than others.

[@Tutulowblow]

@@organics4you Many Pākehā have since initial settlement here. That's at the core of all colonisation of other people's lands

[@LanceRoulston]

Chiefs wanted a treaty and eventually law and order to save themselves from doing each other in, fact

[@CoolCoyote]

yeah nah you still need acts reform.

[@shaneward4065]

Keep up the good work Mr Jones

[@dossnone4554]

Interesting conversation.

[@davidholt1250]

The Treaty was an agreement to allow Pakeha to settle from the Maori point if view. It was never entered into with the intention of land being given away, sold or confiscated. But that is what the British did. Now the ACT Party wants to take Te Whenua out of the equation. Erase Maori from the Treaty as if it wasn't about Maori but about "universal human rights" i.e, Pakeha dominance. In fact they want to tear up the treaty and forget that the Maori made an agreement

[@JoBlack-dg6ey]

Maori ceded sovereignty to the crown. One government, same laws, same status for citizens regardless of race/ethnicity.

[@Moesha166]

Where? does it say that Maori ceded sovereignty in Te Tiriti ? No-where! Thats what this is all about. Get it right! Te tiriti allowed the Crown to govern not rule.

[@Tutulowblow]

@@Moesha166 Yeah! I don't think people on here realise the difference between the two versions and which one was actually signed. They get their views from politicians and plunket's brigade.

[@greybuckleton]

Shane always says reasonable things, but when the rubber meets the road he won't support the bill, which means a continuation of these issues he discusses, such as resource consent.

[@KINGSFORDLIFE]

Ka pai Matua Shane 💪

[@antihebrew]

English MF! Do! YOU! SPEAK! IT!?

[@Rhonda-z9q]

And the question is Why does NZ First not back Act on this? 47 percent of Kiwis polled want to see the referendum go ahead. Can NZ First afford not to back it? Or does it not matter what your voters think?

[@SelwynKatene-Ferris]

If we are not taught about the treaty at school.......do we go to Parliament to learn about it??

[@noelinehealey2785]

Get it right, it's New Zealand, not Aotearoa!!!!

[@Tutulowblow]

Aotearoa for the win!!!!

[@eranacarolbyrne6469]

Someone who I knew was South African said to me. How Maori have separate privileges and that's what they thought against. My friend who is from Malaysia has told me that the Muslims get all of the benefits while there is discrimination against the Chinese living there.

[@Tutulowblow]

I think your South African friend should still to their own history

[@Mark-ef8mp]

These are the growing pains for a 'Constitution' for a modern-day New Zealand

[@ianfaulkner238]

Well said Shane

[@gregg7617]

Well said Sean and Shane !😛😛😛😎🎱🛡️🗡️🙏♾️

[@eliandjovanahsmith6233]

Well said good Sir.

[@Bonnie-e4v]

NZ FIRST has 2 years to change their mind and We have 2 years to change their minds. Vote for people that want you to have a say .

[@LilyRose-f2h]

The hikoi is just grifters walking in the hope their gravy train keeps going. Only have contempt for them

[@seanodwyer4322]

Give them the lott too fatten them upp.- Free Food/ tobacco/ booze/ sex/ cash $$/ Drugs/ Fast cars/ scooters/ planes/ helicopters.

[@Tutulowblow]

That's alot of people you have contempt for. You should get some help for that. So much bitterness isn't good for you

[@bernardwinkels7117]

Why shouldn’t the school kids be a part of this historic educational moment in nz

[@excelsior9698]

You know, when people are let to speak their own words unmolested they come across very differently. My respect for Shane just grew heaps. He is a good thinker and really articulate. Thanks for that 'The Platform'.

[@newzealand7047]

Why do do many continue allow/speak Aotearoa - it's New Zealand

[@Tutulowblow]

Aww, does it hurt to hear that?

[@mikemow01]

schools should keep out of this making kids go what a fast

[@jamescrydeman540]

Equality, equality, equality, democracy, democracy, democracy. Distinction, distinction, distinction, destruction, destruction, destruction of democracy. It is simple and needs to be kept simple.

[@tim2muntu954]

How about we limit our arguments to those actually being made, rather than on our infallible judgements on the intentions of our opponents, our opinions, or reading on intent or what we imagine the consequences to be? How about we educate our children, which is what taxpayers and parents are paying for, rather than radicalising, activating our children, and using them as crowd stuffing?

[@Dave183]

We should count ourselves lucky- that we don't live in New Caledonia!

[@gregreed402]

Shane is a genuine man who wants everyone in NZ to be equal and everyone to enjoy all the natural attributes that are on offer .👍👍👍👍🍺🍺🍺🍺🇳🇿🇳🇿🇳🇿🇳🇿

[@koro287]

It doesnt matter,the lid is off and this isnt going away.

[@timothyburrows8385]

Well said Shane !!!!

[@madgoatsnorway6690]

David Seymour for Prime Minister ❤

[@DerekBolli]

That an advisory tribunal set up to make recommendations to Ministers is behaving like a star chamber and affectively attempting to instruct elected Ministers is totally ridiculous in my opinion as a taxpayer and voter 🙄

[@Tutulowblow]

Yeah....leave it to the lobby groups and big business instead, they're way more trustworthy, and must have our wellbeing in mind 🙄

[@kiwikev5775]

Back the bill for real change Shane. Otherwise all of your grand speeches are meaningless.

[@jackitt4883]

Seymours and Jones parties will have enough votes to govern NZ on there own...they won't need national...

[@LanceRoulston]

All boat people ALL came fom SOMEWHERE ELSE , Amazing how some react when a bill is put forward that says EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL....................

[@spencerchapmanbarra7888]

Its ok for maori to govern based on maori provided funds not by money from non maori. See if it works. Thats fair.

[@texaskiwi]

Our country is NEW ZEALAND.

[@MeimeimeiaPunangk]

The treaty is not to be comprimised

[@MaryAda-wj3dy]

I hope this bill goes through. The way I see it is that like David I believe that as nzers we should all have equal rights and equal opportunities. For the last 50 decades tribal radical activist extremist separatist maori have chosen to systematically break down our society and our democracy under the false guise of being indigenous and being agreived by colonisation and the constant using of the complete and utter barstidisation of the original treaty of waitangi and its intent, the prescribed bastardisation of the truth behind the signing of the treaty, the abscence of truth about the true ruthless and brutal tribal history of maori and the deliberate attempt to take control by elite radical activist extremist separatist tribaI Maori who are using every trick in the book to rake control by 2040. I have had an absolute gutfull of the racist rhetoric, the barstidisation of our history, the over reaching of the WT and the indoctrination of false history in our schools and universities. I make it quite clear that I believe maori and the other 159 cultures that now make up our multicultural society are all colonists of one form or another. We have all chosen to live here and make this our home. Maori came in their wakas, the europeans and other nationalities came in sailing ships and the latest waves have come by plane. We are all colonists including maori. There is not and never will be in this day and age an actual indigenous NZer. David is very right to fight for equality, democracy and right of every NZer no matter what race or colour to be able to share that equality and democracy. I voted act for the first time in my life last election because about 2 weeks before the election I realised that chris luxon was a whimp. I was so disdappointed as i held such fsith that he eould reverse all the erong doing of jacinderism. I truely brlieve he has been groomed by john key and potaka with the way he has ignorantly dealt with these spevific issues and reneged on his ore election intent and in so doing nhas shat all over his voting peers that trusted him. He did well in the election as the many just wanted to ensure that jacinderism and the Labour green and TPM disaster of a govt was simply GONE. Luxon has proved that in this issue he is no better. He is playing right into the unscrupulous hsnds of the UN and WEF who want corrupt socislistic world domination. Jacinda was part of their regime and i believe that luxon is too wether knowingly or unknowingly. The maori cheifs ceded doverignty to the crown for several reasons. They were not forced to do this. They chose to do this. They feared a french takeover. They were tired of their own brutal tribal warring, the slavery and the cannabolism that was decreasing their population at a great rate of knots. They wanted peace and trade and a better life than they had. They wanted what the new wave of colonisers had to offer. Even Apirana Ngata voiced that Maori had been treated well by the crown. All this perpetual racism and divisive rhetoric and indoctrination by way of mistruths has to stop. We are now nearly 200 years on and NZ is today the evolution of the 160 cultures that have all given to the evolvement and current multicultural society that exists today. Waitangi tribunal are overstreatching their initial intent and laeful boundaries and quite frankly over run by radicals and self serving people hand picked by labour. There is no balance of justice within WT and it needs to be disbanded. From what was 5claims has now evolved into over 10,000 claims and it will mot stop until tpm and elite tribal radical activist extremist separatist racist Maori have control of everything. Luxon needs to grow some man parts if that is remotely possible and stand up against all the colour and racist politics that is now controlling our country and our parliament.

[@kiwinana5128]

Very well said. I wholeheartedly agree with every word you said. We the people of New Zealand just want to be a happy united country with equal rights and laws for everyone.

[@paulc7190]

Validate Maori and culture, address wrongs, once and for all payment only. Social ills of Maori are there own doing.

[@heminuiraho8235]

The minute our country is returned to how it was supposed to be...the return of our traditional hunting grounds, our burial grounds our sacred places our resources our historical places, our taonga. The Maori inheritance stolen by new Zealand land company and her agents. Namely one george grey. When this is given address then and only then the treaty will be honored.

[@allanwood4771]

Please explain why .all payment should continue to the Māori .

[@paulc7190]

@heminuiraho8235 are settlement payments different to this? Or only partial recognition. Is actual ownership of these grounds the actual issue?

[@allanwood4771]

@@heminuiraho8235 Stop all this crying and bleating on ,about what you want.😂😂😂😂😂

[@heminuiraho8235]

@@paulc7190 waitangi settlements are between self elevating freemason traitors and their political counterparts! I would love to see where the funds from their settlements actually goes because as far as I can see the best they have to offer are education grants. Ownership IS the issue. Land was set aside for the settlers...the settlers wanted more. When Maori said no , the settlers breached the treaty and took it. This Is readily provable history. But the beuracracy class care little for indigenous populations wherever they go. Evident with seymour and his further attack on our declaration of independence.

[@deanspanley4472]

Spoke at the treaty's centennial In 1940 Sir, Apirana Ngata spoke at a ceremony to re-enact the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi. In his speech, he: Acknowledged that the first article of the treaty gave New Zealand's sovereignty to Queen Victoria and her descendants So to honest, The Way HRH Elizabeth , God Rest Her Soul, Had been dishonored, sad. Encouraged Pākehā to recognize the uniqueness of Māori culture . Affirmed Māori commitment to the British Empire during World War II DONE. Expressed misgivings about the centennial year, noting that Māori had approached it with grievances about lost lands, humbled chiefs, and scattered culture . To read and Ponder will I. 🐍⚖️

[@juliansenior6295]

very wise commentary Shane Jones. I am thankful you and winni are in parliament

[@JackieReid-z7s]

Thank you Shane

[@richardcox3713]

Shane has to gradually put more pressure on Luxon respond to voter expectations. Labour is not threatened at present to any real extent and will wait for the next election. Luxon may not run for election again.

[@gregorymiller7828]

"just give me a couple of minutes"=don't interrupt me. HAHAHA

[@1mjfletch]

I totally agree and myself and my wife were National Voters. Would never vote for this clown ever again. He is just a typical politian who is too scared to do what he was mandated by ordinary NZer's to do and that was remove the division and separatist issues in New Zealand

[@Sharpy7562]

Why everyone fighting just paying my bills life goes on

[@TerryMadsen-o4x]

Once again Shane you are the man. You have my support and admiration. From a Wesley College old boy but well before your time ie the 60ties. Go you good thing.

[@calling_a_spade_a_spade]

Mate stop interrupting the guest. We want to hear the response.

[@KINGSFORDLIFE]

How many times does luxon have to repeat himself to media and Māori with no taringas that part of his coalition agreement was to support the treaty principles Bill to first reading but no further then that, it's like talking to kids with selective hearing 😂

[@Winstonsmithsalias]

We hear him clearly that he’s happy for the Iwi gravy train to continue.

[@Dave-un7fh]

Yup. You're right Kingsford. People listen, but don't comprehend.

[@angelabritten48]

Exactly, I don't understand why they are doing this walk. Must need the exercise 😂😂😂

[@KINGSFORDLIFE]

@angelabritten48 he might have to make a billboard sign and place it above the Auckland Harbour Bridge lol

[@Winstonsmithsalias]

@@Dave-un7fh Luxon is another inserted WEF puppet. Just like Key and Ardern. They dont care about the future of New Zealand and dont plan on being around for the consequences of inaction.

[@MeimeimeiaPunangk]

The biggest tribe in nz from north too south is kahungunu

[@pauljones3062]

Be interesting to see though if NZ First actually Vote in favour of David’s Bill !!!!!!!

[@lindsayepae]

New Zealand needs a Bitcoin Strategic Reserve Bill not a treaty principles bill.

[@rosettalambo9076]

Well here is the next PM without a doubt. Call it as it should be, well done, Sir.

[@saadiqtua7461]

MAORI NEVER CEDED SOVEREIGNTY

[@Rowanfbird]

Give them separate parliament...as long as they fund themselves with the billions of dollars we the colonials have given under fraudulent claims etc .They are blind to the fact 95 % of nzers want this bill passed .

[@graemejoyce5629]

All National Party mps voted in favour on the bill's 1st reading. If they then all vote against, upon 2nd reading, what does that make them?

[@Dave183]

A solution:- In this country we need to lift the sovereignty profile of old and recent settlers to the level that many Maori now aspire to. The monarchy of all citizens. Over decades becoming independent of the British Crown, while remaining in the Commonwealth.

[@allaboutstress]

I believe all kiwi have the right to debate and discuss any subject. That’s our right of free speech. Having an open debate in parliament is what defines a democratic culture. There is no reason why we shouldn’t debate the treaty bill. But why are individual Māori so determined to shut it down? I simply can not understand their argument as if there is none or they are being intentionally deceptive by their obvious avoidance of open discussion and aggressive stance? That makes me suspicious. Clearly they have a longer term, alternative outcome in mind that s not being spoken. I am reminded of the old saying. At every crossroad on the path to the future awaits a thousand men, determined to retain the past and their entitlement.

[@Tutulowblow]

It's not just 'individual Māori'. Have you seen the current hīkoi. Māori are pretty united on this, can all of us be wrong? This isn't about equal rights, that already exist by the way, this is about seymour getting votes and doing the bidding of the Atlass Netwerk

[@maaduece5132]

Never really been a fan of shane but hes talking alot of sense here

[@David-m7r9f]

Referendum

[@berniefynn6623]

until 1853, NZ was governed from Australia as a part of Australia, so the 1853 declaration is null and void and the treaty was with the English Crown, NOT our Government.

[@hwy1983]

You were expecting calm and acceptance of this?