SHOWDOWN: Willie Jackson vs David Seymour on the Treaty Principles Bill

[@Neil-yx3rc]

Seymour outclasses them every time. He’s logical,he’s honest,he’s clear thinking,he has the best interests of the nation at heart. It takes bravery… to be honest,to be logical, to have the best interests of all New Zealanders. David Seymour outclasses the opposition every time. He is a brave man. He deserves utmost respect.

[@cameronhall4309]

Well said.

[@pauljones3062]

True however Luxon is his (David’s) Achilles heel & if this treaty nonsense is not sorted NZ is on a downward spiral. Maorification needs to end. Maori radicals & vested Maori iwi billion dollar companies are also complicit.

[@leonbonney1236]

@@pauljones3062proof? nah just bullshit paul , your lack of education precedes you.

[@matakitaki1]

He does not, he is not, your head is in the clouds. He thinks for his financial backers and you are not one of them.

[@Neil-yx3rc]

@@matakitaki1 Take a good hard look in the mirror...$$$$…that’s why some people don’t want a discussion eh. Every person is equal in this country.

[@andreatodd3095]

The Treaty needs definition.......Willie hoping it won't go through, however, democracy needs to be seen to be done and I for one want the opportunity to have a chance to make a submission to the Bill, as I'm sure many other citizens of NZ do. Well said David.!

[@pgreen8531]

Absolutely right and disgusting behavior from Jackson

[@allanwood4771]

@@pgreen8531 And what else would you expect from Jackson.

[@brandonhepi282]

@pgreen8531 disgusting behavior!!!!...umm really what planet you from? That's right, u like sweeping things under the mat. Seymour (puppet) is so disrespectful, belittles Maori culture in many ways....then uses maori words to make fun of.... this shows what a horrible spirit he has now that's disgusting.

[@Ramdingle007]

@@andreatodd3095 Te Tiriti is a very simple document - it’s already been translated by the greatest legal minds and Te Reo experts.

[@RobertOrpin]

This ia an important discussion New Zealand needs to have

[@davidgrosvenor1]

Civil unrest only from you Willie!

[@logicalanswer3529]

He said unrest, but all I see is a tantrum.

[@Bullshit1011]

Is he making threats ?

[@jaredwilliams6379]

It's weird that more people don't see, his behaviour and similar behaviour like this, as what it is. It's spoiled brat sort of behaviour

[@mabear9238]

​​@@jaredwilliams6379More of an Ego driven racists behaviour.

[@bobboardman1156]

Fully support this Bill despite Willi Jacksons threat of civil unrest

[@matakitaki1]

It is you who creates the civil unrest, making claim to rights you gave away and expect others to follow your slavery. David may deny a model doesn't exist outside Te Tiriti because Te Tiriti is the model that can be achieved but White NZer's don't want to for personal reasons, that is the fact and that is the source of racism

[@petakarini7567]

toitu te teriti, leave the Treaty as it is Pakeha are all they sign a Treaty which is a binding Document when it suits them then when it dont they want to change it,.its a Treaty it cannot be changed, unless by those who signed it agree,.to change it, The corporate govt was never voted in to change treaties they should be more worried about Electricity prices,Forestry Mills shutting down 100,of jobs lost,., Food prices., petrol prices,. thats what they should be worried about not frigging around with the Treaty,..

[@logicalanswer3529]

Agreed. You would have to have a racist victimhood mentality to not push for equality.

[@Neil-yx3rc]

@@petakarini7567There is no attempt to change the Treaty. They do not want to change the Treaty. The Treaty is unchangeable. It’s the false interpretations of the Treaty that need challenging. The Treaty is enshrined forever…giving EQUAL RIGHTS…to all New Zealanders. EQUAL rights for all New Zealand citizens.

[@Ramdingle007]

@@Neil-yx3rcThat’s not what Te Tiriti gave. Tino rangatiratanga was not granted to every one. It was a compact signed between Crown and Maori. The Acts attempts to rewrite their own principles without the consent of Maori won’t go down well

[@robertmiller2173]

We deserve a say!

[@webocoli]

Well said, David, stand your ground and let the country have a real debate!

[@Kiwi_Dave]

Well said. For all New Zealanders, sick of the Treaty being a discussion between just Crown and Maori.

[@getsorted0185]

Absolutely we need david to sort this out we must stand behind him he is doing a great job

[@richsmith3300]

If the treaty was right wing would you want the change? Yeah i thought so.

[@getsorted0185]

The treaty cant be changed it is not a living document david is wanting to have it interpreted correctly for all new zealandars ​@@richsmith3300

[@richardsawtell256]

should just tear the treaty up , people are tired of it all

[@ThomasMorunga-y6l]

@@richardsawtell256 i think youll have a war on your hands very dumb idea stupid

[@xorqwerty8276]

Thankyou ACt

[@mikewalters5815]

Most New Zealanders would like their say😊

[@realistically-r7g]

👍😎but …the majority of New Zealanders want their say !❤

[@louiscarnachan3608]

The problem is the majority of New Zealand don’t know what to say. Similar to yourselves.

[@almostbutnotentirelyunreas166]

@@louiscarnachan3608 Do you know what to say.? Or do you simply wish to create doubt. YT is not a court. Have some balls.

[@dangerrayy]

​@@almostbutnotentirelyunreas166Why do Maori say they didn't cede sovereignty in the treaty? Were Maori dispossessed illegally of land to a massive scale?

[@almostbutnotentirelyunreas166]

@@dangerrayy Do Māori want their land back, exactly like it was over 180 years ago, with the French / Dutch ready to colonise without any ‘Treaty’ in mind? Why wait 180 years to complain about dispossession, wouldn’t it have been better to sort it there and then? Where would Māori be without the Treaty, and without the British Crown’s goodwill? Any idea what non-Treaty Colonialism left behind in other countries?

[@alzorataylorr.newtie]

Keep it up David! A much needed debate and I look forward to reading the bill once it is prepared.

[@overland_adventure_nz]

The greater New Zealand do Support the new Bill, and for equal rights for all of us, and not just for a few

[@allanwood4771]

Very well put

[@brandonhepi282]

More rubbish.....pakeha just want to feel the power to rule everyone, The treaty is too safe guard the future of Maori.....pakeha are mad because they got out smarted haha

[@overland_adventure_nz]

@@brandonhepi282 we’re not pakeha! We are all Kiwi’s and it’s time to get rid of the Treaty nonsense. No one is gonna go forward until we all equal going forward … After all, there is no 100% Maori left in NZ.

[@allanwood4771]

@@brandonhepi282 You mean that the treaty is to safeguard Maori against Losing the gravy train.well that is going to happen.he he he.very soon bro.

[@matakitaki1]

wrong

[@yingle6027]

Labour threatening ''civil unrest'' just because they're opposed to open debate is just sickening.

[@geoffneal9146]

Civil unrest or civil debate? They're our choices

[@gregwaghorn8496]

Problem is, the group is growing for a civil war. Headed by the TMP. It's illegal to mention it. Because it's a terrorism threat. Yet, nothing is happening

[@kimkay2196]

Labour will always play the victim card

[@here295]

The "liberal' mindset....nothing new...the true natszis

[@pest_predator_nz]

Typical left...

[@NZ_Kiwi1010]

I support a referendum

[@kevinansley7353]

We caught you Willy, thats why you are in opposition.

[@naytch2003]

@@kevinansley7353 and he can bloody well stay there

[@rigley8830]

Well debated David, most rational people understand we are all Kiwis, regardless of our backgrounds and ethnicity. To treat one ethnic group differently can only cause divide between us. Which is where we've ended up.

[@djhemirukahemisphere8893]

the treaty agreed by the 2 partners. How can 1 partner opt to change it to ? .. It's a grab to utilise the democratic majority which will further marginalise Maori in thier own country. It's scandalous to suggest 1 partner has the right to suggest amendants. The other people of today have no right change the document without Maori support -Maori are the partner not some group that can be dictated to

[@allanwood4771]

@@djhemirukahemisphere8893 And we also won’t be dictated to by Māori the end.

[@raazhard]

@allanwood where is your ancestors name on the historical document? Take your dictates back to King Charles and see what he says. Even better go to Israel and see what true apartheid is or stfu.

[@nuklezdws]

​@@djhemirukahemisphere8893that's a massive grasp for straws, the bill hasn't even come out yet.

[@matakitaki1]

You may be a kiwi, but you are not Tāngata Whenua the difference is profound of which you have failed to comprehend.

[@michaelsmith2126]

100% correct David… never give up… you have my support

[@mikewalters5815]

The Minority doesn't Rule in a Democracy 😊

[@ColinMiller-l8f]

David you have huge support. You have my support

[@AntoinetteIndiraEdwards]

Luxon has to back him if not we will not vote national again ! NZ is ready for this debate now before it is too late . If you have a rational argument then state it rather than not want the debate , It is cowardly and sensed by most of us . Go David ! We admire your words as much as we admire the way you say them .

[@philipjesson9435]

Luxon is a spinless jelly fish should have been in labour party no balls

[@Rowanfbird]

Vagina luxton​@@philipjesson9435

[@jaredwilliams6379]

Well said and keep giving people the courage to stand up to oppression!

[@Sams_world_nz]

I didn’t vote for Seymour, but man I wish I did now. Luxton is weak. Go Seymour

[@naytch2003]

I voted David Seymour and always will...Will never vote National again nor Labour

[@Pkp2306]

Next time then.

[@SOM-v4o]

Just leave the country how it is. Nothing has felt unequal. If it did I would speak on that because I dislike unequal treatment too.

[@davidfentonhancock6646]

Bravo David....we thought you were a "bit of a dork" Now we think you might be the best leader this country has ever seen....bravo brother we want to send you hugs and love........don't worry about Willie you know what he is about....

[@boltang]

Shot cock 🤙

[@koro287]

Ive never voted,63yrs old,been in and out of NZ over the years, i thought the same about David, but now i will vote for ACT.

[@boltang]

@@koro287 ACT have never been given a go -always labour or liberal.

[@vanyawere5938]

Hell that's rich Willie, wasting people's time 😂

[@mabear9238]

Brilliant comment 👏👏 davidfentonhandcock6646. 👍 well said.

[@MrTumblingmoth]

Never been a supporter of Seymour but in this he is on the money. When Willie does his number, Mathew Hooton springs to life as if he still knows everything and the Churches speak Humbug most Kiwis realise what is actually at stake with this. With Peters standing on a pin head in this saying there are no principles but does nothing about the abuse by others of the many interpretations and Luxon standing off because he does not have a pair as like Key he sits on the barbed wire not knowing which way to jump. And there is Brownlee trying to stall Seymour at every opportunity. Beware deniers -There would be many Kiwis sick of this righteous group who wish to carry on their ridiculous racist position in stopping Seymour.He was superb in the house and we are lucky to have him.

[@ngaftp]

Spot on.

[@joewilde.]

Well said...

[@christophergalland35]

@@MrTumblingmoth well said fron waitahah

[@matthewdonoghue321]

David Seymour is correct on every point, but we need to be clear here. Wilberforce introduced his unpopular anti slavery bill in 1791... and it didn't get across the goal post till around 1807. If Seymour succeeds he will have done something truly great for equal rights in New Zealand. I just hope he is prepared for the long and hard fight ahead. Stay the course.

[@vumba1331]

Very well said, it's going to be a long haul and national will have to stop pussy-footing around and support it if they want votes next time around.

[@mr2981]

Brownlee has really become a disgrace. The minister has limitations on how long he is allowed to speak, but the peanut gallery apparently gets to speak all the time.

[@5150show]

He's just after his next steak 🥩 dinner

[@robertmiller2173]

Brownlee needs to shut up!

[@Heatherlooker-tu5bu]

He is TOTALLY HOPELESS!!

[@dangerrayy]

Its the rules , thats all

[@mra4955]

dont be fooled, if any civil unrest occurs, the blame can be laid squarely at labours feet

[@mabear9238]

Absolutely, they are to blame, The two most guilty are Jacinda Adern and Willie Jackson the two conspirators. The sneaky party and the losers party.

[@katescott649]

I believe 90% of New Zealanders agree with David, BUT if Luxon does not start showing some balls and support this bill, he will be the third party next election as we need some strong direction where the Treaty is concerned.

[@pauljones3062]

True & will not be voting National next time.

[@Fred-zw9kk]

Never forget Luxon once worked for Unilever. I think he may have got the job there as a live model for a deoderant roll-on. One thing is for sure, he has no spine or cojones. But I'm hoping the country will see him eat humble pie when the heat really goes on this thing. For too long, NZrs have allowed politicians of Luxon's ilk to direct proceedings, when we are their employer.

[@orac229]

David has FAILED us. The Treaty Principles Bill is dead. Clause 2 will give iwi everything as soon as Labour/TPM get back into power. I will NOT support it with clause 2 intact.

[@nz_proud]

@@katescott649 You need more than to believe to make it reality. Maths don't lie. The reality is that his party couldn't even get 10% of the votes

[@heathermason1356]

Don’t believe that for a minute

[@markjacobs2803]

Brilliant. Let's hope it's changed so all Kiwis are equal as it should be. Don't we all live in the same country?

[@davidgrosvenor1]

Surely we are all equal Willie arent we! It seems you lot want division!

[@jinjaman101]

yeop equal with a contract, thats why you don't live in a mansion. Cause you equal doh!!

[@allanwood4771]

They certainly do want division and something to Winge about.

[@teebird9575]

You can have your equal rights. Just leave our kids rights to the parents.

[@Wavygraveee]

equality for all please. thankyou

[@carolechapman7857]

What is Willis afraid of …. we just want to know what the treaty means … there are tooo many interpretations!!!

[@kimkay2196]

No more gravy train

[@danielkamana5612]

do your home work. start reading books

[@carolechapman7857]

@@danielkamana5612 thats just it … I have … and I don’t see the partnership that Maori profess is part of the treaty… and I’m pretty sure that the NZ taxpayer would appreciate knowing just how much more money is going to be expected in the tribal coffers!

[@louiscarnachan3608]

Then teach yourself, Seymour is no expert. Don’t depend on him.

[@johngillanders9694]

Just read a bit about the translation based on impartial experts, not based on someone with an agenda to make individual property rights more important than all other rights and obligations, which is what Seymour is doing this for, to benefit big businesses at everyone else’s cost, by legally bypassing environmental & cultural protections.

[@marinedrive5484]

Poor old Willie, he came to the debate with nothing and got hammered and to cap it off the majority of Labour voters support the Treaty Principles Bill too, according to a recent poll. Another stellar debate from Seymour.

[@gbrown9663]

Rubbish

[@jamesbroughton7635]

You wanna show us some evidence of ficticious poll? Furthermore the questions Willie Jackson raises are factual statements made by his own Coalition partners that this Bill is dead after the parliamentary process is complete. So he isn't wrong and all Davud Seymour was doing was attempting to conceal the fact (behind flights of fancy) that his Treaty Principles Bill nonsense is again unsupported.

[@Yhf6649]

Willie is an empty vessel,makes a lot of noise and makes no sense. He wastes NZ resources both mentally and financially. Just make him go away like you would a child having a tantrum. Do NZ a favour.

[@jamesbroughton7635]

@@Yhf6649 He’s only telling David Seymour what every Political Party (including his own Coalition Partners), Kings Councellor’s and Treaty Experts have said… That his Treaty Principles nonsense is a loser,

[@2700dave]

Brownlee should go and join the Labour party....what a a shocker

[@jasontuhuki5022]

Fk no he's too right wing like Seymour racists

[@shaneward4065]

Go Mr Seymour you have my vote if goes to a referendum.

[@cozygung]

Even if he gets rejected here, he puts them on the spotlight and it lets us see a glimpse of their true colors. Very smart.

[@mabear9238]

I agree, well said. And maori hate their true colours being exposed.

[@SeaBrownieNZ]

The more I support a review of all kiwi rights… no more laws based on skin tone…

[@allanwood4771]

I’m sick of All the laws regarding skin colour. It’s all about them.

[@dangerrayy]

If you have grievances with the government, organize yourself and make a case. Maori are not the enemy of NZ. They might just be the backstop against massive influential power from overseas wealth. Modern culture is destroying the environment, alienating the majority, and has given us an unsustainable expectation. Its time to rethink our future. If you think NZ has problems take a look at every western country and see if they aren't feeling the pain

[@nz_proud]

@@allanwood4771 What laws on the books says anything about skin colour?

[@SOM-v4o]

What laws on skin colour? 😂. What the heck are you talking about?

[@pspaulstewartinterviewinspires]

Absolutely, each New Zealander should be treated equally under NZ law. With clear intentions for a nation of people’s, these discussions are important. Can people bring their voice in unifying ways.

[@urbanegorilla6005]

Poor old Willie: That was a mismatch of intellects if ever I saw one.# Get rid of the millstone.

[@SneedTechIndustries-gf5hn]

Every interaction with that moron is a mismatch of intellect.

[@trevorgarner5803]

Willie by name, Willie by nature, and still on the pay list. Time for a big clean out of the deadwood.

[@KiwiAdvRider]

You know he's a second year fifth former?

[@Keno9846]

What an orator Mr Seymour is. Particularly with a heckling opposition rabble trying to distract him.

[@PeterMacGrergor]

David, you put Luxon to shame.

[@chandon1443]

they are both shameless

[@logicalanswer3529]

It is very telling how every time David mentions equality, people similar minded to Willie get upset about it.

[@mabear9238]

Absolutely true because they think their the Superior race 🙄

[@logicalanswer3529]

@@mabear9238 I agree. The leaders of the Māori party have literally said it. And then prove the opposite with their behaviour and intellect.

[@mr2981]

Ol' Willie bringin a plastic knife to a gunfight.

[@pgreen8531]

Yes he is just a maori activist not a politician

[@pgreen8531]

Why is a non new Zealand born indian in the new Zealand parliament? 🇳🇿

[@SJDRacingNZ]

​@@pgreen8531 Which aspect of your characterisation do you object to having in Parliament?

[@michaelhagley4762]

,@@pgreen8531 there is only one? You are right, we need more, maybe we need to start a "non new Zealand born indian" electoral roll so we can attract more hard working people like this MP.

[@johnlaing9124]

And he probably stole the knife from the MP cafe.

[@whoknows4621]

rwanda, sri lanka, yugoslavia , zimbabwe all had race based politicians, ethic ‘entreprenuers’… perhaps we need this bill to become an act to keep that type of politician from nz…

[@OJB42]

According to surveys I've seen, the bill has a lot of support amongst New Zealanders. Unfortunate that most of our "leaders" can't support what the voters want.

[@mabear9238]

They had better start listening or Luxon will be out and Act will be taking over. Not voting for that coward Luxon again.

[@philipjesson9435]

Keep up the good work David let's get this treaty principles Bill sorted so we all equal 👍 don't worry about silly Jackson

[@4HisKingdomCome]

Keep up the good work David. I totally support what you are doing, it is desperately needed to bring New Zealanders back together as one people. As a Christian, I am appalled at the so called christian leaders that oppose your Bill. They are talking from a position of ignorance at best. They do NOT represent all Christian in this country. Probably very few.

[@jaredwilliams6379]

Yup! Stay away from woke church's

[@GraemeLee-e1z]

Well done, David Seymour and the Act Party 💯% 👍 for your stand for equal rights on behalf of all non-racist New Zealanders. History shows that non-racist New Zealanders of all skin colors stood together in solidarity against the apartide system in South African. Now, in 2024, we as non-racist New Zealanders now have another opportunity to stand against apartide based politics, this time to stand together for the equal rights for all NZ citizens. Starting by repairing the harm done by previous governments and returning New Zealand to a prosperous society that does not divide citizens by race. Canceling the race based divide created by previous politicians to gain race based votes, most recently by the previous Adern lead government politicians aimed at forcing New Zealand citizens into a divisive race based society.

[@nedKelly-x3z]

Go Act, Jackson playing a long bow, he knows which side of his bread the butter is on, the only thing is his hands have butter on because both sides of his bread have the butter on.

[@jasontuhuki5022]

Go away 1 term racists

[@shanehuang1954]

David is fighting for truth. David is fighting for the future of New Zealand as a whole. His arguments make sense, rather than Willie’s superficial claims

[@sunstar1630]

Willie Jackson sits in the Kumera Patch, for the New Zealand Voter kicked Labour OUT. Thank You David Seymour.

[@Kat-v2n]

Not all churches have signed the petition presented. Only the woke ones . This petition was written up by an activist group.

[@Gregsilverfox]

Yes and those ministers that did sign weren't signing on behalf of their congregation... unless they did a poll first? 😁

[@Londoner-c3z]

I am so glad I voted for David and had the privilege to meet him, logical and focused… go David you have loads of support 👍👍👍

[@BronwynGillies]

This is in your opinion Willie Jackson. This definitely needs addressing . We want a united nation

[@redhotkiwi6275]

Great work David

[@Ricky-nq7lu]

I see two tier Gerry hasn't changed.

[@TroyHutchinson-qq5ig]

@2:00 '''''Will the Minister stop!... wasting everybody's time & resources'''' - Willie Jackson. That's exactly why you don't want Treaty clarification for all NZ, Willie... Because you want everybody to waste their tax funding you & your mates interpretation services... Clergymen of the religious faternity don't support the Bill because they share a common interest.... selling their Bible interpretation services.

[@saxdearing3395]

Why is Willie so scared? Bring on the Bill. I'll have my say in front of a Select Committee, thankyou very much. I won't be silenced by Willie or others of his ilk.

[@Adriano-vr9wj]

Thank you for your bravery, David!

[@iankjacob]

Brilliant

[@alfpayne7703]

stay strong and focus david -you are our only hope

[@neilstuarr2278]

David doing the hard yards to make a good country

[@user-lf2og4kt5y]

Agree. And they will be hard yards.

[@diggahole3056]

Go ACT! Well done

[@HunkyMan777]

Willie spends too much time pulling his willie

[@robf1862]

Nice ring to it - Pullin Willy

[@PatrickQuartley]

Awesome David, you Smashed it, LOL!!!

[@karentorkar8256]

They may not support it, but plenty of others do. And growing.

[@esther-5689]

Good on you Seymour. A honourable stateman in the making.

[@mw844]

Willie = Division. Thank you DS for calling it correctly

[@purplehaze1694]

Unfortunately for the lot of them ultimately the Silent majority support David Seymore who does not dish up rubbish on a daily basis for us all to wade through

[@Mel-gv4vo]

David Seymour for Prime Minister, he has more idea of what the people (ALL the people) want than Luxon does. We need a strong leader in NZ to take us forward as one people. Arden caused a lot of division, terrible PM.

[@JimEmbury]

We support David Seymor!

[@erniepeterson9569]

That's why we voted the current government in it. Is what New Zealand wants? We are sick of hearing about a bloody treaty. Keep it real.

[@glucinaplace5086]

Good on you, Dave. u have more mana than all those greedy elite lying māori pati!!!!

[@donaldmartin8649]

Maybe Willy is worried about the tap being turned off

[@jasontuhuki5022]

Like luxon & Seymour making NZ suffer

[@brushandshovel6512]

Mr Seymour your a ledgend 🙃

[@badchefi]

That Chinese dude in the back is texting the whole time😂

[@Lawyer1606]

I support Mr Seymour and yes put it to a referendum.

[@clivenz1109]

Brownlee needs to pull his head in, making disparaging remarks is not ethical for the speaker of the house...

[@DeborahTaylor-u5o]

I love your guts David, what a rock star!!❤

[@vicipiz]

Māori iwi are worth a combined 8.2 billion dollars. Still victims apparently

[@pauljones3062]

Yeah & these billion dollar Iwis pay NO company Tax & this needs to cease.

[@vumba1331]

Only the boys and girls at the top of the maori tree get to receive any benefit from it, they expect the rest of the country to keep paying for the others at the bottom that they have cut out. Classic grifters strategy which shows quite clearly an incredible level of moral, ethical and financial corruption against their own. Instead of being a shining beacon for their people and driving their betterment, they have denigrated all maori.

[@lindamckenzie6500]

So sad to see so many impoverished....

[@vumba1331]

@@lindamckenzie6500 Why is it so many who have moved to OZ have done really well for themselves, highly motivated? If so, what, or who, is/are holding them back? Is the 'cuzzie bro don't do better than us' syndrome that the black economist Dr Thomas Sowell writes about?

[@olliemoose2020]

Yes and I am sick and tired of giving these bludger my tax dollars, time to stop the gravy train.

[@toranarama1]

Willy worried about the grift

[@modfus]

Seymour's a brave man, going toe-to-toe with one of the intellectual giants of our time 😏

[@vumba1331]

Superb sarcasm!

[@bronwynsearle2117]

Well done David 👍🇳🇿 you handled that well😊 most of NZ supports your bill, thats why they have got their knickers in a twist ..😂

[@marklayland5424]

Brownlee, keep saying that’s enough to David, how about saying that to the hecklers who can’t shut up when a minister is speaking. Shut them up when someone is talking, do your job, you are telling the wrong people that’s enough.

[@SOM-v4o]

I ain't a supporter of seymour or the other and I'm maori. Just listen but you're right. Probably because I've had that same treatment from woman too.😂. You can't say shit without being torched continiously.😂.

[@Silivelio]

This is a blessing bill in terms of natural law, assistance to ensure equality for all humanity in life period. This concept of unity unifies by new ideas and developments of our lives individually and collectively with the resourceful nature and talents, skills, and gifts as coworkers of our Creator.

[@mikebruce7750]

I'm part Maori and I agree with David about this 😊

[@janbrown9195]

Why so scared of a debate , that’s all it’s going to be get over yourself Willie Jackson most of us have . Good on you David Seymour I believe you are speaking for a great many New Zealanders dialogue is good for all New Zealanders on this matter.

[@KAHouli-p1x]

Willie Jackson is one of the Elite Maori on the Gravy train " and if not why not"

[@KAHouli-p1x]

I support Davis Seymour ,many other New Zealanders also

[@howardlee5235]

David is correct. Everyone should be equal

[@SOM-v4o]

What? I can't be the only 1 where people from overseas has their own businesses, church shrines and everything. There was hardly any discrimination or unequalty before these new enforced rules unless it's to take maraes off of lands.

[@dennis-qu7bs]

Good on you, David.

[@DossNZ]

Grass roots may support it. Let's wait and see.

[@chw5044]

Bravo Mr Seymour.🖐️💐

[@Thetartanscientist]

Every man is equal in the sight of God.

[@mikewilliams6086]

Everyone is entitled to equal rights! Anything else is an attack on the non maori population! Maori owning the seabed and forshore of this country is a complete break of the waitangi agreement to advantage one race which is therefore racist!

[@enumeratenz]

Seymour makes some excellent points ... reference to to principles in legislation without clarity at a constitutional level is is a recipe for all sorts of mischief. The Treaty of Waitangi Act was intended to form a Tribunal empowered to bind the government to land claim settlements. This was never an ongoing constitutional review; this was to effect Deeds of Settlement whereby both parties (Iwi and Government) agree it will be a final and comprehensive settlement of all the historical Treaty of Waitangi claims. Talk about bad faith, Willie Jackson was exercised to the point of inciting violence shortly after Act announced its intention to progress the Bill. Willie probably takes comfort in the ambiguous nature of the current state of Treaty Principles so as to justify whatever incoherent position he wishes to take on any matter (I thought he was Alliance, now he is Labour, again). Willie is not a person for whom probity, logic and good governance are respected. I listened to a Vic University Law lecturer on RNZ who clearly could not separate Constitutional and Common-Law Torts. If this is the state of the academics, the state of the judiciary is probably much worse (especially when it comes to recent appointees of the Waitangi Tribunal - who seem to be confused by basic issues of jurisdiction). This Bill is valuable and necessary. I hope National put aside their spinelessness on this issue and do the right thing. Winston's view is that the Treaty Pinciples Bill is unnecessary ... because there are NO principles in the Treaty of Waitangi. The choice is to either remove references to Treaty Principles in ALL legislation or define EXACTLY what these principles are. National's position is the cowards way out.

[@scollyutube]

The sooner everyone is treated as New Zealanders the better the country will be. That includes paying tax if you are a Maori business or a religious organisation.

[@tonycooper14]

Your the wasting time wlilly 😊😊😊

[@UnkleSi]

We are behind you David seymour!!

[@monkeyboynz]

So glad I voted for David Seymour.

[@annemackay-ib4gy]

Wow Willie, you lot are running scared, 😂😂😂😂😂 David you have newzealanders behind you ❤❤ your our next prime minister. It's you Willie, and all your lot who waste people's time, always have done. It makes me sick that hard working tax payers pay your lavish wages

[@Gutbucket55]

I see the very left leaning Chris Trotter is in favour of a discussion on the treaty , interesting , we definately need this discussion , what is Jackson , Tamihere , Morgan etc afraid of ? 🤔