5:17 When a woman has to resort to attacking a man's gender and age, you know she's already lost the debate.
@jwaugh319 Жыл бұрын
Facts. But, then again, victimhood has always served women well throughout history due to their 'marginalized' hurt feelings. Not to say that feelings don't matter. But the truth is, facts dictate feelings, and feelings do not dictate facts. Thankfully, we are approaching a time wherein truth and common sense prevails over politicized hurt feelings. This is why men built society, and it is run by men with a backbone, and will prosper by men with backbones and integrity. I'm not for politics, I'm for common sense. Maori are quick to cry racism when it benefits them, but to receive something that you would not receive if you were not Maori (like every other nationality within New Zealand) is in fact, in itself, racist.
@peasant5612 Жыл бұрын
Yip exactly
@cassandragaisford2777 Жыл бұрын
shocking to call him ‘uncle’ … childish
@Thebuilder-v7q Жыл бұрын
She’s not the brightest bulb
@happypipi5363 Жыл бұрын
Agree. Debbie called Shane uncle, but she's no spring chicken herself.
@WiremuRanginui Жыл бұрын
'When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.'
@overover.. Жыл бұрын
That is exactly how the maori party are feeling right now, no wonder they are kicking up a stink
@ritakonig1891 Жыл бұрын
😂 well said. This is not just true for Maori. We can see this in our Children too. If they're allowed to eat as many cookies as they wish and get restrictions next time at aunties place, they moan and groan too. There's a saying: when the mouse is full even the cheese tastes bitter. 😊
@banksy1311 Жыл бұрын
Facts!
@deanwitt7903 Жыл бұрын
You are correct . It’s becoming a sad state of affairs in this country . As a New Zealander of European decent at school decades ago we never saw colour . We had Maori friends and the Māoris saw us as friends . We were at each others houses after school , we played sport together , we hung out on weekends together . The parents of Maori children worked in the same factory as my parents , earnt the same wage and everyone in the town never saw Maori as inferior . We were and still are all human beings just trying to pass through life as best we all can . These elite Maori will never pass any fortune gained from government down to the Maori people at grass roots .
@andreatodd3095 Жыл бұрын
I agree, that was my experience growing up as well. I use to visit Maori homes with friends and relatives, Pacific Islanders homes as well, great mates and lovely parents.
@geefreek Жыл бұрын
Save some victim cards for the rest of us. she pulled the woman and Māori card. Should be a limit of 1 per customer
@2wahineandadog Жыл бұрын
Why? you clealy prefer to play the "bully" card
@geefreek Жыл бұрын
@@2wahineandadog your gonna have to explain to me how I’m being a bully?
@krisp4889 Жыл бұрын
@@2wahineandadog No that's threats of an angry mob coming to a town near you__ a threat constantly being repeated lately__ bullying is a Maori Gang shutting down a City/town for a funeral or through just violent behavior__ it's "The Maori Way" always worse under Labour.
@janbrown9195 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Timetofly8888 Жыл бұрын
Lol !!! YOU, Sir win the internet today.
@taliaware1110 Жыл бұрын
Shane jones even had offensive things said about him towards his own whakapapa and he still stayed calm...respect bro
@sox7784 Жыл бұрын
Yep agree, he’s a politician and an intellectual which she isn’t
@rickymarino1208 Жыл бұрын
wat was said about whakapapa
@taliaware1110 Жыл бұрын
@@rickymarino1208 4.40
@jac3271 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely it’s theatre. And of course the race card is played, and the DEI ideology of victimhood raises its ugly head. Debby talks about “our people” - so they think in lockstep? She resorts to identity politics…
@TomoNahi6 ай бұрын
@@sox7784 torewai koe shane ukui tiko
@zerotree1310 Жыл бұрын
Is Debbie's best response to call Shane an old sexist bully and then accuse him of making it personal? disgraceful conduct.
@Lazydaisy646 Жыл бұрын
One rule for you , different for me
@valeriehughes1008 Жыл бұрын
At one point she called him "just an Uncle"... this woman is mostly of Dalmatian blood with very little Maori in her bloodline yet she decks herself out and mokos her face and claims she is more Maori than the rest and must be listened to.... she is disrespectful to Maori in the way she acts and the game of theatre she plays and the constant calling Maori victims when the vast majority of us do not think of ourselves in this way... she is an embarrassment to all Maori
@geoffstokes Жыл бұрын
That's par for the course for her political types
@ryanparker8773 Жыл бұрын
This is what she has been told to say, she knows the media will back her up.
@peterlattimore6013 Жыл бұрын
@@valeriehughes1008 Thank you... Debbie seems to act the part but does not follow through physically.
@eileenmcparland2158 Жыл бұрын
I'm Irish and the two pistols symbol belongs to my culture. It is not modern Maori art, as Debbie has said. In any culture it is a symbol of violence.
@BenCharminEats Жыл бұрын
Guns were used to forcibly take land from Màori, so I'd say if they want to use the symbolism they can. Plus gun symbols are no more Irish than any other culture.
@96Caleb96 Жыл бұрын
@@BenCharminEatsNope, they were given to protect their land from other tribes.
@BenCharminEats Жыл бұрын
@@96Caleb96 Yeah good one.
@yingle6027 Жыл бұрын
@@BenCharminEats As soon as Maori got guns they used them on other Maori and took their land. Look up the Musket wars -20,000 Maori dead at the hands of other Maori.
@BenCharminEats Жыл бұрын
@@yingle6027 Have a look at your statement and tell me what's wrong with it.
@dreinhard52 Жыл бұрын
Debbie just proved Shanes point , straight into name calling and victim hood !
@hatupaoraolsen-mcgarvey2700 Жыл бұрын
No, Shane just proved he will say what ignorant people want to hear.
@rapscity2k442 Жыл бұрын
@@hatupaoraolsen-mcgarvey2700 that's what Debbie is doing. Shane has the reo and so do all his tamariki and mokopuna. He can say what he said because he is also Maori. I'm Maori too, and I rep he whakaputanga hard, the real history of my tupuna. She does not speak for all of us. My tupuna wern't victims, yet under her and Rawiri's leadership, that's where we are headed. My tupuna were travelling the world before 1810, we make it seem like our relationship with the crown started in 1840. I know my history. I am not ignorant. It is her. It is you.
@speeddemon9555 Жыл бұрын
@@hatupaoraolsen-mcgarvey2700 he told the truth and apparently the truth hurts you lot !!
@k9wirihana172 Жыл бұрын
Yeah nah
@autumnedwards45 Жыл бұрын
@@rapscity2k442Sounds like ur tupuna were Kupapa Maori😂😂😂
@AlanFitness-t3n Жыл бұрын
Shane Jones totally outplayed Debbie & that so called journalist.
@makamak4992 Жыл бұрын
So politics is a game, that makes sense
@purefoldnz3070 Жыл бұрын
sure did and she sure wasnt happy about that. hahaha
@michaelmarama-de4gx Жыл бұрын
That journalist is a cutie pie, I'll dig her anyday😂
@sebastianharker4892 Жыл бұрын
A definite, Game, Set and Match to Shane. 🥉 🏆
@purefoldnz3070 Жыл бұрын
@@sebastianharker4892 and without even trying.
@JT-oo7sd Жыл бұрын
Surely the interviewer should take a neutral stance.
@aaronlikescoffee Жыл бұрын
Not in NZ 😅
@purefoldnz3070 Жыл бұрын
at TVNZ? haha good luck with that. Honestly all nz media should be neutral.
@mr2981 Жыл бұрын
Ha, you funny.
@brucefale6132 Жыл бұрын
@@aaronlikescoffee name a country that does
@annatetiad.4991 Жыл бұрын
she is a paid shill - just like Jack Tame and Rebecca Wright. They are rxtreme left biased
@haweavivian48 Жыл бұрын
Amazing that TV1 haven't turned the comments off. They don't usually like public opinion.
@truthprevails5056 Жыл бұрын
....wait for it... 😂
@theoriginaltoadnz Жыл бұрын
Very true, was surprised to see this.
@andosoup98 Жыл бұрын
was just thinking the same thing, clearly thier viewers taking a different approach than their staff, lol
@terri-annejoyce2164 Жыл бұрын
Yeah thats true'
@alanchapman2782 Жыл бұрын
Stuff ( the worst)and other media outlets in NZ have banded together and shut off any public comments on nearly every issue. It is good to see comments available for a change.
@danfrost3043 Жыл бұрын
I'm confused! As a White New Zealander what to Maori not get that I get? What are they not entitled to that I'm entitled to? What rights to they not have that I have? Everyone is struggling, what about all the other cultures in New Zealand, you don't see them constantly whining, protesting, causing disruption and screaming Racism at every turn. They need to get over themselves.
@peterlattimore6013 Жыл бұрын
A former neighbour who was a Maori from the wrong side of the railroad tracks, said there are some Maori who walk forwards while looking backward. There are a select few who have a mindset of victimhood and it affects their state of mind to the extent they'll never be happy, refusing to acknowledge that in the past 150 od years, their lifestyles have improved tenfold. To summarise, there are Maori who are manic depressive no matter how much the government gives them for free...
@2wahineandadog Жыл бұрын
On paper the rights are the same I agree. However the difference is how some are treated or disregarded is more the case.
@joycooper6343 Жыл бұрын
@@peterlattimore6013 As a retiree I believe life is what you make it irrelevant of race. No one is denied an education. Seems the biggest moaners are those that expect it all minus the hard graft that most put in to achieve . Protest Monday morning , rush hour traffic for those going off to work Question : are these protestors all unemployed ? At least the ground swell protest endeavored to cause least disruption to the public as possible .
@Lazydaisy646 Жыл бұрын
My part Maori nephew gets a lot of advantages his Pakeha mother is not entitled to. He's got funding to go to a private school simply because his father is Maori. I dont begrudge it to him , but thats a fact
@dakotak51 Жыл бұрын
Look up perpetual leasing lol
@jonathanbennett1542 Жыл бұрын
Hold the line Shane you doing a great job , as a New Zealander with Maori roots I’m with you on this , the media and the lefties will kick up a stink but our country is on the line , it’s crazy how a few radicals hold the country to ransom
@Stephen-bq4nq Жыл бұрын
Yeah our countries on the line that's why they got rid of the fair pay act which will affect the poorest workers. They're bringing back the ability for landlords to kick people out with 90 days notice with no reason given. Poor people are in for hell under this foul government
@evannelson4479 Жыл бұрын
Well said sir, totally agree.
@MartinAndrews-y5u Жыл бұрын
well done shane ,see you in the northland club
@Chrizzy60 Жыл бұрын
Us too. Totally sick of the Maori party, their constant whining, constant hand outs, constant cries of victim hood, and constant racist comments while they accuse others of the same.
@Harbour-s9w Жыл бұрын
@@Chrizzy60 so far all i see is shane fans in here been racist, i dont claim to be a victim, it gave me the skills to survive. Im not sure about handouts because i never got any.....but the whlle being ignorant to the results of colonisation and oppresion, thats why the upper class are the upper class and all my people are either fucked with addictions, poverty, and a low perforning mindset and the other bunch who look down on us koz theyre tryna be like the upper class.....its jist a sad state of affairs for everyone.
@Fraaank41 Жыл бұрын
Within 5 seconds and the mention of democracy, Debbie is rolling her eyes. Pathetic.
@alicerose9140 Жыл бұрын
It is pathetic that Shane Jones thinks democracy means getting to vote only once every 3-4 years.
@Fraaank41 Жыл бұрын
@alicerose9140 , what would you prefer? 5 years, 10 years or every single year?
@rapscity2k442 Жыл бұрын
@@alicerose9140 😆 if the tables were turned and maori party were in, all of a sudden they would be enforcing the election result. She picked at the fact that their vote percentage wasnt indicitave of the population. While they only got 3%. Im maori, and this party is embarassing. My tupuna were not crying victim like our current 'leaders'
@patriciakimber4312 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t she
@alicerose9140 Жыл бұрын
@@Fraaank41 Democracy means 'rule by the people' not inflexible dominance by one or two parties & ignoring the needs of the rest of the population. Ongoing accountability to ensure honouring election claims, responding to demonstrations of public opinion & representation of those without power would be a start.
@sallykemp142711 ай бұрын
Thank you for not turning off the comments and well done Shane👍👏👏👏👏
@joachimpetersen2301 Жыл бұрын
I'm Maori and I am not offended by this governments plans. In fact I agree with most of what this government plan on doing. Don't act as though you speak for me Debbie with your 2.5% vote which assuming only Maori voted for, would account for only 14% of Maori!
@Gumpmachine1 Жыл бұрын
It’s a classic tactic to tell any particular group they’re oppressed and only you can help them. The Maori Party can only exist if they consistently convince other Maori how poorly they’re treated
@mashelalnaar Жыл бұрын
I'm impressed Mike King got $6m annually from now on by incoming govt for mental health. Labour gave him absolutely nothing.
@andybrrr5944 Жыл бұрын
Based
@CHCHNZ461 Жыл бұрын
Such a good point and needs to be highlighted more.
@ronaldwarren1267 Жыл бұрын
Man hard case buggers aren't they her and Rawiri halfwiti b s
@robertgrant4609 Жыл бұрын
Shane Jones makes a good point about victimhood not being a good kaupapa to base a political movement on. Then immeadiately out comes the im a women and your victimising me response. . . Very telling. . . Shane Jones is the most commonsense politician ive heard. A real gem, glad he is in government.
@purefoldnz3070 Жыл бұрын
yes and she did not like that at all haha
@krisp4889 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of our former PM, it was all because She was a She__ nothing to do with her jack booted style, Dan Andrews (a man) got exactly the same treatment in Aussie__ is he transgender and I didn't know?
@MG-fr3tn6 ай бұрын
He needs to get with science.
@mark561 Жыл бұрын
"We didn't get our way & can't accept a majority of the country disagree, so we'll hold everyone to ransom until we get what we want" - democracy in action....
@chrisbright8976 Жыл бұрын
protesting is a democracy right... being part of a minority didn't stop the COVID clowns from protesting ..
@AdvocateOfJamaica Жыл бұрын
Pretty much...
@Lazydaisy646 Жыл бұрын
I think that's what Winston did too
@mark561 Жыл бұрын
@@Lazydaisy646 I didn't vote for him 😣
@AmonAnon-vw3hr Жыл бұрын
@sillysewer lol how?
@pietdebeer7972 Жыл бұрын
Could the presenter try to hide her bias a bit better?
@annatetiad.4991 Жыл бұрын
thats what the journalist fund has paid for. The bias.
@C00kieMonsta13 Жыл бұрын
She was probably too scared to piss the Māori lady off
@margueritemccartney3607 Жыл бұрын
Nope. She’s totally biased all the time. Can’t help herself.
@Sailorsega Жыл бұрын
The presenters have never hidden their biases.
@mikeodonnell5487 Жыл бұрын
she wont be in a job much longer!@
@arthursnodgrass4685 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Shane Jones. This is why you received my party vote,
@aaronlikescoffee Жыл бұрын
Mine too
@jpinnz2803 Жыл бұрын
A 'male standing over and bullying Debbie' - WTF???? As soon as she said that she lost this debate.
@byronbarker936 Жыл бұрын
Exactly right
@robbiedavis6643 Жыл бұрын
It depends on how you looked at it. You obviously don't like her so your mind wS made up
@harryflashman4542 Жыл бұрын
@@robbiedavis6643 She hasn't the intellect to argue the points so she attacks the person. I have noticed that about the Maori Party leadership, they cannot discuss policy.
@robbiedavis6643 Жыл бұрын
@@harryflashman4542 wipe your mouth mate
@harryflashman4542 Жыл бұрын
@@robbiedavis6643 thankyou for helping me make my point.
@AmonAnon-vw3hr Жыл бұрын
Look how they care more about words on public buildings then they do about Maori children abused to death like baby Ru. Where are the protests for them?
@erina4586 Жыл бұрын
STOP! The Abortions ( Murder) of the Innocent Babies! The govt system has failed.
@Mr_Riffman08 Жыл бұрын
Where are the protests for Pakeha children whom are being sold as sex slaves in the south island by their own parents...your generalizing one situation as if it were an on going on in everyday Maori life..they struggle so badly living in a Whiteman colonial world as it is without having the rest of their livelihoods taken..Fact Is this is an act of racial superiority dressed as democracy
@allantakiari1822 Жыл бұрын
@Riffman08-dz6pv You are talking about that Cult? That's not the same as with Baby Ru. ffs. Our Children no matter what Nationally they are need to be Protected..
@AmonAnon-vw3hr Жыл бұрын
@allantakiari1822 and they all jailed for it. Something that's yet to happen for killers of baby Ru, who still walk free.
@grantadamson3478 Жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Riffman08 Lots of emotive rhetoric which comes across as very confrontational and aggressive. Talk to us with facts and you might be listened to.
@righttobloodydissent Жыл бұрын
Why does she keep rolling her eyes like that? Very immature behaviour on Debbie's part.
@2wahineandadog Жыл бұрын
Facial movements is part of Tikanga - try watching a haka where no one pokes out a tongue or frowns or raises their eyebrows...stoicism and poker face are for other cultures. The only one better at eye roller is Chloe whatsherface from the greens
@The1234joe4321 Жыл бұрын
Bro what TF is up with that thing on old mate debbos face 🤡🤡🤣. She got too close to the iron stove plate one night on the double browns?😅
@cassandragaisford2777 Жыл бұрын
maybe its the false eyelashes playing up
@richardandmichellelifeadve3473 Жыл бұрын
Im with Shane 😊
@rowancruickshank2358 Жыл бұрын
Good level thinking Shane , also it’s the largest number of Māori in cabinet, the ppl have voted and are rejecting the woke victim narrative being pumped globally Good work Shane
@chong-laichan3190 Жыл бұрын
I genuinely don't think Shane is misogynist simply because he disagrees with a woman. I don't know the man personally, and so can't say for sure if he is misogynist or not. All I can say is, judging from what he said here, his argument isn't built up on misogynist ideas.
@jame2433 Жыл бұрын
The patronising way he calls out her “victimhood” is why she called him misogynistic.
@KIWINATION Жыл бұрын
You are right, whether or not there is a male OR female he is arguing against, he would have said the same words. So misogyny is a word not suited as a fair response. However, her response to call misogyny is a fair trade for his attitude toward Maori representation in Government. And as he crosses her boundary of disrespect, so too does she trade in kind. Overall though, I do believe she could have held back on the use of the word misogyny, and just maintained her dinosaur remark. That way, she'd have only made enemies with like-minded dinosaurs. And now she's just potentially turned off all men from supporting the cause that she's backing.
@rapscity2k442 Жыл бұрын
@@jame2433and it should have been patronizing. Because he was speaking to her crying victim over maoridom not gender issues, and as a well versed maori himself, he has that right. Shane Jones is a proud maori. He speaks the reo, his kids speak the reo, his grandkids all speak the reo. His knowledge of the history of te tai tokerau is so deep, id argue he knew more about his tupuna and their deeds then she does of her tupuna and their deeds. Some of us maori dont buy this victim crap, and hes clearly one of them. Doesnt mean hes a misogynist.
@tamulawrence8865 Жыл бұрын
Shane is muzzled by his party and won't rock the boat
@jame2433 Жыл бұрын
@@rapscity2k442 I see what you’re saying but I’m unsure how you can look at what this govt is doing and think they want better outcomes for Māori. I also don’t think they are being victims, I just see people standing up against policy that doesn’t help improve outcomes for Māori. Māori are over represented in many areas and I believe we should continue to work towards improving that. That’s what I see them trying to advocate for I also don’t think she’s calling him a misogynist based on this single interaction.
@Clubs_88 Жыл бұрын
Well done shane we actually want a non racist devisive nation
@2wahineandadog Жыл бұрын
Pity we don't have one
@SimoneMcAllister-l3h Жыл бұрын
Please point out how the tyranny of democracy has ever been non racist or divisive in the history of the NZ colonial governing polity. With facts please not racist whitesupremace opinion and/or conjecture.
@Clubs_88 Жыл бұрын
@@SimoneMcAllister-l3h😂
@RōraKereopa Жыл бұрын
Act is not delivering equality, act is delivering inequality in the sense that statistically māori, lgbtq+ and immigrants have lower income, higher mortality rates, higher incarceration rates and overall lower standards of living. By cutting social services that minorities rely on, that is worsening inequality, not fixing it
@HaturiniPaoraAka-nk1ue Жыл бұрын
The coalition is racist and divisive…Winston hates David Seymour’s guts. That’s why he dubbed him the accidental Mowrie lol
@sebastianharker4892 Жыл бұрын
Shane Jones has really impressed me. An absolute gem of an intelligent man. Glad I gave New Zealand First my vote. Shame another blatantly bias performance, from another leftie Politically Correct TVNZ presenter.
@janbrown9195 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree 💯
@valeriehughes1008 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree... something has to be done if we are ever to get any true journalism... at the moment we get opinionism by someone masquerading as a journalist!
@sox7784 Жыл бұрын
He’s not shy to fight against TMP neither is Winnie that’s why I voted NZF
@purefoldnz3070 Жыл бұрын
6:38 finally some sanity. Shane is right it was tokenism that got out of control.
@GrantasaurusRex Жыл бұрын
Need an unbiased interviewer.... not even trying hide it.
@AdvocateOfJamaica Жыл бұрын
I must have missed it: what did Shane say that was misogynistic? Isn't calling him an "old dinasour" ageist?
@gorillaSportsShow Жыл бұрын
Disagreeing with someone is now considered offensive.
@aquamarine_nz2296 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it amazing that she makes the assumption that no Maori voted for this government or for NZ First. Wow, she thinks she represents all Maori. Such arrogance.
@sox7784 Жыл бұрын
She doesn’t represent all Māori, most Māori want New Zealand 🇳🇿 back to what it was a safe country where gangs aren’t running our towns shops don’t get robbed were we are not judged by the colour of our skin threw the action of others shown on TV far to regularly . NZF ❤❤❤
@warrenheslip692 Жыл бұрын
I am really warming to Shane Jones. The moari party look to me like woke liberals.
@elshelbyandzue-davies8341 Жыл бұрын
What u talkn about? I never voted for this govt National, act or NZ first. They still want to scrap Maori from Aotearoa.
@gavinivers8941 Жыл бұрын
If 20% are up set about what the new Government is about, the 80% are happy with the new Government.
@jame2433 Жыл бұрын
Mate the new govt got 53% of the vote…. Approx half of New Zealand doesn’t agree with the new govt direction on many issues
@korocam9137 Жыл бұрын
Just over 10 likes is not 80% support 😂
@EvilVillainInc Жыл бұрын
About 71.47% of the adult population voted in this election. About 37.8% of the total adult population voted for the new government. 29.39% of the total population. Hardly 80% now is it. Democracy isn't a free ride to dominate minority groups. It's supposed to protect us all.
@jasonpoihegatama1347 Жыл бұрын
Bully and stand over her what a joke Lol
@nerd_tasha Жыл бұрын
While I don't like seeing Maori vs Maori on National TV. I agree with Shane Jones. Name changes were tokenism.
@maxinehemi6892 Жыл бұрын
normalising te reo Māori is NOT tokenism. I'm a speaker of te reo Māori and didn't want the name Oranga Tamariki on an agency that rip our babies from their whakapapa! I didn't know what Waka Kotahi was... but I learnt it, like everyone else. We had normalised it... until now :(
@CUZZABRO Жыл бұрын
Use of Maori language in govt departments was legislated for first under Key and Act lol
@leelabella7357 Жыл бұрын
I am not a te reo speaker, I love the Māori language. I felt it was tokenism of the highest order. To me Māori is a sacred language and using it to identify Government departments smacks of hypocrisy to me, especially when those government departments are failing Māori so badly. Te Whatu Ora and Oranga Tamariki in particular.
@nerd_tasha Жыл бұрын
@@leelabella7357 Exactly!!
@rapscity2k442 Жыл бұрын
Shane Jones is fluent in the reo. All of his kids are fluent in the reo. All of his grandkids are fluent in the reo. And not the machine gun paced standard reo you get from te wananga o aotearoa. He has hearty te tai tokerau reo. If he calls it token to place a maori name on a crown agency, then he has the right. Maori party and the sheep make it seem like they are trying to rename my iwi and hapu to pakeha names. That would be crossing a line. These are crown agencies. Let them rename them in their own reo. Who cares! We talk a out tino rangatiratanga, but we cry when the crown wants to rename their own agency. LET THEM. Then get to work to do better for your own papakainga.
@LJFN213 Жыл бұрын
Ironic that “bully and stand over” seems to be the intention of the protest. Shane Jones: “She trades on victimhood” Debbie in rebuttal: Plays victim of the patriarchy.
@MartinAndrews-y5u Жыл бұрын
is that a bar swipe on her chin
@Tony-h8r Жыл бұрын
Its the same old perview with these Maoris ....you're right play the victim hood card .....or bully the whole country and the media to try and force a change to this new governments policy .....They are naive this is what NZers voted for , she is trying to turn back the clock ....lmao .....it ain't goanna happen ..
@EvilVillainInc Жыл бұрын
@@MrPushpuller Why does that matter? What is with settlers and their disgusting habit of poor bashing? Classism runs deep in the blood of settlers it seems.
@taliaware1110 Жыл бұрын
Shane Jones was brilliant and he won respectfully
@CHESSTICAL Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the government support
@rotofotonz5150 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see the comments open maybe TVNZ will start listening to there viewers
@truthprevails5056 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts too! They so often close comments to thwart debate. Lets see how long they keep them open here...!
@paperclip612 Жыл бұрын
@@truthprevails5056 Absolutely agree!
@theoriginaltoadnz Жыл бұрын
So true!
@chrisallum9044 Жыл бұрын
lol as if
@andosoup98 Жыл бұрын
i can only think its a mistake
@worknehfollow6688 Жыл бұрын
Can you please employee neutral reporters? My tax money is wasted.
@Jillian-qq1df Жыл бұрын
Shane is well spoken, I didn't hear any bullying. I don't think the reporter is impartial. I always called it NZTA.
@bert454 Жыл бұрын
Great. Then you won't mind if others continue to call it Waka Kotahi
@Thebuilder-v7q Жыл бұрын
Waka is Māori for boat is not, and the name has gone back to English @@bert454
@ll-rb7or Жыл бұрын
That lady must have blinked 5 thousand times 😂
@AmonAnon-vw3hr Жыл бұрын
It's a common tell of liars.
@janec1242 Жыл бұрын
in her captilist false fluttering eyelashes...
@2wahineandadog Жыл бұрын
Seriously your making fun of a disability - classy
@jackiebiggs7071 Жыл бұрын
@@2wahineandadog it's the great big false eyelashes shes adopted wearing.
@AmonAnon-vw3hr Жыл бұрын
@2wahineandadog blinking isn't a disability lol.
@normankeoghan5298 Жыл бұрын
1 News with comments open ,that’s a win for NZ First right there. Well done to Shane on his response to these two Woke Ideologists. Bringing that response into a political debate leaves the Maori party looking very weak to say the least. That’s ok they are putting there best speaker forward, How to shame your constituents in one easy lesson. To the reporter, maybe it’s time to throw in the towel.
@krisp4889 Жыл бұрын
Media is terrified they will be defunded and actually have to present actual content and not just parrot Government Provided propaganda__ been a few "retirements lately" of some of the worst hacks .
@EvilVillainInc Жыл бұрын
Hahaha "Woke". How influential the US culture war was on sleepy Nieuw Zeelanders is ridiculous. It must be because they left their own culture in the northern hemisphere. They had to substitute it with brainless US political rhetoric and slurs.
@elizabethsav8474 Жыл бұрын
And pick yr paru towel up on the way out US, tRump made that up, US 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@koro287 Жыл бұрын
2 replies missing, back paddock anna! that comment will disappear too.
@askay2k Жыл бұрын
One person one vote, and the people have chosen.
@krisp4889 Жыл бұрын
Debbie's Party won just 2.6% of the vote, where does SHE get the right to speak for the other 17.4% of Maori?? she claims to represent.
@2wahineandadog Жыл бұрын
Do you have any evidence that she doesn't represent more than the 2.6%?
@krisp4889 Жыл бұрын
@@2wahineandadog Well they didn't vote for her did they!! Can you prove she has more support? With out the race based Maori seats she wouldn't have a job__ time they went.
@hemiedwards217 Жыл бұрын
you obviously don't know how the Maori seats work lol
@krisp4889 Жыл бұрын
@@hemiedwards217Really they are race based, only Maori can vote for the candidates, did I miss anything and given her parties poor party vote she would be unemployed.
@paperclip612 Жыл бұрын
@@krisp4889 Wasn't the abolition of special Maori seats in Parliament a condition of MMP?
@MurrayLeckie Жыл бұрын
35% of the coalition Government cabinet are Maori . Enough said !!!!
@peasant5612 Жыл бұрын
And she says the government didn't get the Maori mandate , however her party's 3.08% is hardly overwhelming.
@michaellee9975 Жыл бұрын
Many of those 35# are plastic Māori.
@nicow6808 Жыл бұрын
@michaellee9975 so Maoris only have one allowable point of view? The rest are no true maoriman?
@EvilVillainInc Жыл бұрын
@@nicow6808 *Māori
@Chrizzy60 Жыл бұрын
@@peasant5612 One wonders if she did maths. Not sure where she thinks her mandate comes in.
@jimmyjames1807 Жыл бұрын
well you can see what percentage of the population doesn't have have a job
@harmonyadams7577 Жыл бұрын
Dear Breakfast and Maori Party, where are the protests for baby Ru. Why isn't there more coverage on this story. You're always holding oranga tamariki to account. Why is the silence surrounding this baby's murder allowed to continue? Like so many others before him?
@AmonAnon-vw3hr Жыл бұрын
They don't care about children. Only power and money.
@michealwalford2905 Жыл бұрын
Well said sir' And respect for all victims of crime..not just historical.
@2wahineandadog Жыл бұрын
Why not direct this to Shane Jones and NZ First - your complaints are only at Te Pati Maori - you can't disparage TPM and then look to them to fix things in the same sentence....
@overover.. Жыл бұрын
Why can they not just accept we voted for this, tantrums and blanket media bias will not change how people feel
@2wahineandadog Жыл бұрын
No it won't
@ricksmith9177 Жыл бұрын
Not everyone voted for this
@daveyboots79 Жыл бұрын
The last government didn't have to scrap together a coalition of chaos... but the tantrums haha, oh boy the tantums... How quickly you forget to be able to say that without a hint of irony
@siouxsioux2725 Жыл бұрын
@@ricksmith9177Majority did
@viratkishore6930 Жыл бұрын
It's actually awesome, makes people even more supportive of the new govt
@greencloud2225 Жыл бұрын
If Debbie is not a professional politician she should turn down the fat pay packet.
@2wahineandadog Жыл бұрын
If that were the case we would end up with a very empty parliament...although we might then have more money for other issues..
@leroyd6778 Жыл бұрын
You think Luxon, Shane Jones, Winston don't just want their fat pay packets? Winston next two generations of family are gonna be loaded from all the taxpayers money he's miked in his lifetime.
@Chrizzy60 Жыл бұрын
@@leroyd6778 The statement was, 'if she 'is NOT a professional' politician, she should turn down her pay packet'. Because if she isn't a professional politician - then she should have another job, and only be a part time politician. ONLY professionals do a job full time and get the pay for it. (unless they are retired and on a pension - or tax payer funded wage as Jacinda - that destroyer of our nation is).
@andreatodd3095 Жыл бұрын
Debbie, crybullying....., strong Women are not victims and manage misogyny very well, in fact you are respected more if you can demonstrate that you are able as a leader to act appropriately when it's presented to you. Getting people to follow you because you present as a victim is not admirable.
@janbrown9195 Жыл бұрын
💯
@andosoup98 Жыл бұрын
yup how can you be a strong victim, lol, look at say the Vietnamese boat people if you want to know strong and overcoming intergenerational trauma, they dont play the race or victim cards, they just get on with it
@dubstepXpower Жыл бұрын
Imagine complaining about misogyny while being in government wtf
@catherinevovna85111 ай бұрын
Strong women are the ones who put up with misogyny? Pffft
@carlcranfield986 Жыл бұрын
Well done Shane. U had 6 years Debbie.
@purefoldnz3070 Жыл бұрын
that was fantastic to watch.
@Alfonso_111 Жыл бұрын
Debbie wasn't in the last government. 'U' are wrong.
@kjr2868 Жыл бұрын
20% of the NZ Population (or 100% of Maori - as Debbie is claiming) are not being represented at this protest. Shane definitely had a fairer argument!
@dragonrings14 Жыл бұрын
Maori only make up 17% of the population anyhow and that is only if you include ANYONE with any Maori connection. If you take those who solely identify as Maori then it is 8%.
@djhemirukahemisphere8893 Жыл бұрын
We can't all drop tools and protest. It's a tragedy that Maori all over the nation take to the streets today to combat issues that concern us
@peterlattimore6013 Жыл бұрын
@@djhemirukahemisphere8893 what exactly are they protesting over? From an outsiders view point, they seem to be upset their gravy train has stopped and are upset. It appears they want benefits without the responsibility.
@chrissolutions Жыл бұрын
Marxists always claims to be speaking for an identity group. BLM does this to blacks in the USA and the Maori Marxists are using the same leftist tactics
@kjr2868 Жыл бұрын
@@peterlattimore6013 I like Shane Jones's answer best, 'maintaining the victimization of Maori??'
@Nicole-ze2gj Жыл бұрын
So when you have a different opinion, then you are a bully or a victim. I found Debbie to be very unprofessional,...rolling her eyes, reacting instead, or responding. I guess that's what professional politicians do. Interesting times.
@arksamongus5165 Жыл бұрын
A classic wwahhman
@purefoldnz3070 Жыл бұрын
exactly, way too entitled for sure. One of the reasons that National won is a push back from the extreme left like Debbie.
@jenniehaxton1240 Жыл бұрын
Professional discourse from Shane Jones not so from Te pati M who demonstrated personalised responses
@grantadamson3478 Жыл бұрын
Her responses were purely emotive. Quite childish and immature. Why would anyone choose her to represent them.
@licriss Жыл бұрын
No, "Debbie trades on victimhood" is not at all a professional comment
@AmonAnon-vw3hr Жыл бұрын
@licriss it's literally the truth lol.
@daedalus7677 Жыл бұрын
@@licriss and yet, she does!
@Millektm Жыл бұрын
All marching off to the nearest KFC or Macca's or both by the look of some of the crowd,probably would have got it for free under Labour .
@LowerHuttHorsesense Жыл бұрын
NZ state media calling King Charles a dinosaur. What a disgrace
@BradyHodge-e8o Жыл бұрын
Shane Jones for the win
@garbonzo1947 Жыл бұрын
The whole lot of the "breakfast" crew should be sacked. That 100 million bribe (by labour) sure worked.
@sox7784 Жыл бұрын
Yep bought a payed for by labour , changes can’t come soon enough
@MG-fr3tn6 ай бұрын
This is more due to governments being slow about technology and free loaders.
@louis44100 Жыл бұрын
One rule for all New Zealanders.
@hariseldon3786 Жыл бұрын
Debbie - didn't see Shane bullying you, didn't see Shane "standing over" you... how about you go shorter on the rhetoric and hyperbole (very 'thespian' as Shane says) and go long on facts and evidence...
@janbrown9195 Жыл бұрын
💯
@ZaneLike Жыл бұрын
Debbie learnt well from her militant white SJW tutors at University, which by the way she was held back from doing because she's Maori
@mr2981 Жыл бұрын
It's funny how the importance of changing names back to something most people can understand is questioned, while Labour and TPM made these wholesale changes In the first place, so apparently they thought it was important then. Hypocritical...
@2wahineandadog Жыл бұрын
Great we are in a cost of living crisis and yet we have $1m to waste on changing letterheads and websites etc AGAIN
@grantadamson3478 Жыл бұрын
@@2wahineandadog Didn't you understand the reasons behind the changes even though they were quite well articulated to us all?
@AmonAnon-vw3hr Жыл бұрын
@2wahineandadog wait till you see how much taxpayer money gangs get lol.
@grantadamson3478 Жыл бұрын
@@AmonAnon-vw3hr Yeah right. What's your point? And do you have an actual fact or is this just BS
@DaHandDatFeeds Жыл бұрын
@@grantadamson3478 Yeah. Apparently people don't have the capacity to read, speak bilingually, or learn these days.
@snakes331 Жыл бұрын
I remember the days when maori were funny. Bring back Billy T.
@The1234joe4321 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 this comment. Old mate debbie - REKT
@gavinivers8941 Жыл бұрын
Billy T use to get death threats from Maori back in the day.
@evannelson4479 Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@moniquebode1655 Жыл бұрын
Yea Billy was great and light hearted
@daveyboots79 Жыл бұрын
So you prefer an 80s caricature of a 'Māori slacker' over a Māori politician.... makes sense aye
@nigelcole299 Жыл бұрын
Her body language tells us everything.
@nzkid2599 Жыл бұрын
As a Māori I do not feel disadvantaged at all by this new government. I am not a victim and refuse to play the victim card
@slooob23 Жыл бұрын
There's no future in victimhood, I'm pakeha and have had some really hard times, we just got to keep going no matter what. Kia kaha bro, we can all move forward together if we want to.
@sox7784 Жыл бұрын
There’s money in play ing the victim Cuzzy that’s why she’s jumping up and down
@nzkid2599 Жыл бұрын
@@sox7784 she’s a Karen
@Stormlight-1 Жыл бұрын
I’m a GenX Maori who has a pakeha and Maori parent. If you learn our history and colonisation of indigenous peoples your eyes and mind will be open to understanding why we are asserting ourselves to this govt. A govt who prefer we are not seen or heard. This govt is anti Maori and they twist words and our agenda to be negative. I remember my mumma who didn’t learn her language as her parents stopped speaking it to her to protect her from being hit from the teacher if she spoke te reo. My mumma lost a part of her that affected her loving herself. That was a time of conditioning. We no longer accept the narrative these racist try to spin.
@nzkid2599 Жыл бұрын
@@Stormlight-1 alright keep your hair on!
@dallasfrost1996 Жыл бұрын
Well done Shane Jones!
@cliffsharp7922 Жыл бұрын
Well done for being deviant
@purefoldnz3070 Жыл бұрын
@@cliffsharp7922 get a grip Cliff. This woman got owned plain and simple.
@AmonAnon-vw3hr Жыл бұрын
@cliffsharp7922 guilty White man lol.
@KINNZ94 Жыл бұрын
She plainly shames Shane for his age. Hmmmm.. And she is so offended for everything.
@throughput6674 Жыл бұрын
New Zealand First just wanted to thank all those who voted Maori party, you managed to give NZF a stronger more powerful voice in parliament
@grahamgottard Жыл бұрын
I would like to listen to interviews with impartial interviewers. It seems most in NZ media show a significant bias these last few years
@janbrown9195 Жыл бұрын
It sure does and that bias come from the left labour government that was voted Out doesn’t that tell those journos anything?? apparently not
@00287eeturner Жыл бұрын
Way too go Shane, see when she starts to lose the argument she blames him for picking on woman lol, what a joke.
@sox7784 Жыл бұрын
👍
@rotofotonz5150 Жыл бұрын
Victim mentality is not a way forward
@grantadamson3478 Жыл бұрын
It is all that some of them understand.
@96Caleb96 Жыл бұрын
Notice how the host instantly argues when shane jones speaks but lets the one sharing her views speak
@sox7784 Жыл бұрын
She’s updating her CV
@manu3281 Жыл бұрын
Never forget the damage labour did against Kiwis?! 🤨
@bryanthomas3840 Жыл бұрын
She proved him right by carrying on as a victim.!
@bobolulu7615 Жыл бұрын
Im backing Shane Jones. This man stands for New Zealand. At least when he speaks, he speaks sense. The other person thinks she speaks for ,her people,. If that isnt racial separation i dont know what is. Bravo Shane Jones.
@kosmosgemini4853 Жыл бұрын
If your not Māori than you wouldn’t know.
@garycody1929 Жыл бұрын
Shane is too intelligent for the muppets.
@DrRatweasel Жыл бұрын
Are you freakin serious...!
@peterlattimore6013 Жыл бұрын
@@DrRatweasel Might say more about you Weasel than Gary's comment.
@purefoldnz3070 Жыл бұрын
@@DrRatweasel he was calm and level headed and honestly called her out which was brilliant.
@JP-hw4me Жыл бұрын
Ka pai Shane Jones !! 💪
@Sadder302 Жыл бұрын
The translation doesn’t makes sense ,
@mixmastamaori3931 Жыл бұрын
Maori party. We have been oppressed and no one will listen to us for more than 1 month. Let's protest. Us Maori have been privileged for so long we can't see it
@janconway2880 Жыл бұрын
The majority of NZ's voted that they wanted a change and not the way Labour was taking us, so what she is saying she doesn't agree with the outcome, so she doesn't agree with the democratic voting, demonstrations wouldn't happen without the democracy way, I am so tired of her mentioning the colonialism way, this is woke language and it is crap, that's why NZ's pushed back against this way of thinking and teaching. This country is not racist as yet, but the way Maoridom was taking us, it was certainly divisive, to have your own health system would have been the makings of Apartheid and it would have divided the country even more. Maori are already very wealthy, through the Treaty of Waitangi, and it should be ended so that NZ can plan for all NZ's and get the overseas debt down and push for all NZ's, otherwise you will have more NZ's leaving the country and going to Australia.
@2wahineandadog Жыл бұрын
She didn't say she didn't agree with the outcome? She was clear that the previous governments direction was not all correct and hence why Te Pati Maori exist. I would love to know which "Maori are already very wealthy" you are referring to - that is such an odd statement.
@edwardtupper6374 Жыл бұрын
More Maori live in Australia than NZ
@AmonAnon-vw3hr Жыл бұрын
@2wahineandadog the Maori economy is worth billions of dollars. It's not pakehas fault they don't share it lol.
@krisp4889 Жыл бұрын
@@2wahineandadog Several of my Maori friends are multi millionaires__ they don't seem to have overcome their "oppression", but then they live their lives looking forward for opportunity, not backwards for victimhood and a free lunch__ Bizarrely their mixed race daughter is also leaping ahead in life, a University degree, worked her way through varsity, no parental hand outs__ amazing what a work ethic can do to improve your "LUCK" To quote a billionaire " The Harder I Work The Luckier I Become"
@janconway2880 Жыл бұрын
@@2wahineandadogMaori Iwi up to 2021 worth $6.3billion.
@timpope7274 Жыл бұрын
Debbie pulls some funny faces.
@mashelalnaar Жыл бұрын
I think that's her natural state.
@pietdebeer7972 Жыл бұрын
no, that's the moko
@danfray4685 Жыл бұрын
The bar code accentuates it.
@scottgriffiths326 Жыл бұрын
And blinks alot
@EvilVillainInc Жыл бұрын
@@The1234joe4321 Hey, a WS with an original thought. Go figure
@andrewmann3787 Жыл бұрын
Holding everybody else to ransom Can see the gravy train disapearing in the tunnel Everybodys equal not Everybodys equal and but some are more equal than others.
@alcampbell493 Жыл бұрын
The unequal tend to be indigenous peoples worldwide, colonised by European nations, especially Great Britian..Australia, USA, Canada, NZ...why is it always the idigenous peoples, with the highest unemployment, and worst crime, health and education stats ? Coincidence and they're all lazy, useless? I think not.....
@iCanBeDaniel Жыл бұрын
Well done Shane Jones, handled very well and talking sense.
@JanisTilyard Жыл бұрын
With respect how about giving govt time to actually do what they’ve said and see what the outcome is. Māori are capable of not smoking. Debbie needs to strengthen her people, not say they are victims. Interestingly we caucasians and other ethnicities are all having to wait and see. After 6 years of having 20% ? of the population ram their views down our throats this is the outcome and 80% have spoken. How about taking personal responsibility and also talking to the TOW partners so we all pull together in the same direction. Eg. Māori name first on signs means in the time it takes me to understand the Māori word I’ve driven past and missed the English name. Transitioning is not just chucking people in at the deep end. You slow your own cause by pushing too hard too fast. Smoking is reducing at the moment so education and support for those who want to stop seems to be working well.
@2wahineandadog Жыл бұрын
Interesting, so you say too fast when the Maori language had a complete full stop less than 100yrs ago and our parents and grandparents were beaten for speaking it but you are up in arms if we try to have both Te Reo and your language? We aren't stopping your language and culture but you are definately belittling ours.
@AmonAnon-vw3hr Жыл бұрын
@2wahineandadog it was never stopped, if it was it wouldn't exist. My grandfather was beaten for speaking Gaelic, yet he didn't let that stop him speaking it at home.
@JanisTilyard Жыл бұрын
From the mouths of the old Māori people… We wanted our children taught English in schools to give them more opportunities in the changing circumstances of NZ. Māori was still spoken in the community and homes unless individual parents stopped it. Now the practice of physical punishment for disobedience was culturally accepted in those days and times. Retrospectively we no longer accept that consequence for disobedience. Children who chose to comply with the educational edicts did fine. Some became bilingual, some only spoke English because parents decided to stop speaking Māori at home to help improve the children’s English. Maybe a few stopped going to school and in a progressing world remained mono lingual. I’m 70 and taught for maybe 40 years. I understand if families and communities went down the English only route a Taonga was nearly lost. I don’t speak Gaelic for the same reasons. I ❤ the fight back for Te Reo. It always works through individuals and love. I’m more attracted to that than militant demands. Kia Kaha.
@StGammon77 Жыл бұрын
@2wahineandadog when words such as party are just spelt wrong to make it sound like English, that's not an official language!
@kiwisrule6757 Жыл бұрын
Not sure about your maths they sport 80%
@brucerobertson5919 Жыл бұрын
Shane Jones should make all Maori proud. He holds great mana.
@geoffstokes Жыл бұрын
Speak for all New Zealanders not just one ethnic group, which, incidentally is actually of mixed heritage. Why don't you acknowledge and honour all your whakapapa, not just the Maori side. You're not half or quarter of a person you know.
@krisp4889 Жыл бұрын
A 32nd used to be enough to get a Maori Affairs Loan__ hence my 6', blue eyed, blond work mate (born in Australia ) qualified__ clearly he was an oppressed Maori!
@HaturiniPaoraAka-nk1ue Жыл бұрын
Lol
@EvilVillainInc Жыл бұрын
I agree with the overall sentiment of what you've typed. However, each individual person gets to decide who they are. Māori is a culture, language, and heritage. I have Irish heritage. I'm not Irish and never will be. I've never been to Ireland, I don't speak their language, and I don't participate in their culture. It is unfair to claim I am Irish. How disrespectful to Irish people who live and breathe their culture. "Culture includes the many aspects of a community's life that are taught, learned, and practiced on a day-to-day basis. Heritage refers to one's family background or historical lineage, which may or may not be reflected in the culture that one is a part of."
@hatupaoraolsen-mcgarvey2700 Жыл бұрын
Honouring the Treaty will benefit every culture and race in Aotearoa NZ. Would you rather see Maori doing well and being successful or in prison, impoverished or violent? You only need to look around the world to see the same pattern of the effects of colonisation upon indigenous people like Ireland... e.g. the IRA. Honouring the Treaty is the solution for everyone.
@2wahineandadog Жыл бұрын
Do you understand how genetics work, Maori's can produce blue eyed blondies and shock horror there are lots of Maori's living in Aussie. If your inference is that your mate fraudulently obtained a MA Loan back in the 80's I think we can let that one go.@@krisp4889
@greyhamlogan2255 Жыл бұрын
I voted NZ First in line with their and ACT's party policy on co-governance and fully expect this to be enforced.
@dona825 Жыл бұрын
Shane Jones is 100% correct, the biggest threat to Maori us Maori. Maori expect privelliged rights when this is a multicultural democratic country. Equal rights for all.
@sox7784 Жыл бұрын
He is spot on
@2wahineandadog Жыл бұрын
That is exactly what we want but what's written on paper and reality aren't the same thing.
@glennhowlett2082 Жыл бұрын
Well done Shane.
@stucooper4132 Жыл бұрын
hahaha these two are like a married couple. Keep it up Shane, call it what it is
@hamish1309 Жыл бұрын
Yea i work with Maori am married to a Maori and didn't hear a thing about this protest. To not be in poverty you have to work hard and try to save and be sensible. Its not easy but what is?
@siafaau7565 Жыл бұрын
Exactly whatever happened to working hard and taking personal responsibility...that's what is missing these days.
@evannelson4479 Жыл бұрын
Māori throwing their toys out of the cot Te Putu, because we now have a mature intelligent realistic government who represents the majority, not minority radical left wing woke activists. If you want to talk about wealthy elites who don’t give two stuffs about their own people, just take a look at the so called Māori upper 1% higher ups, who are given hundreds of millions of dollars over the decades to help everyday Māori who have seen zero of that money. And by the way, it’s not “ racist to rescue Māori kids from abusive Māori families who injure, maim, and kill their children.
@logicalanswer3529 Жыл бұрын
Well put.
@Chrizzy60 Жыл бұрын
Yup. Spot on. The reason they are so upset is they see their money tree drying up.
@EvilVillainInc Жыл бұрын
"radical left wing woke" - hahaha more US culture war nonsense lol. You've gone and made a low effort buzz word salad
@EvilVillainInc Жыл бұрын
@@Chrizzy60 Where this money tree again?
@sox7784 Жыл бұрын
Thumbs up 👍
@oscarharriet7030 Жыл бұрын
Well done Shane Jones. Interesting that, unable to play the race card in an argument, the agist, misogynist line is trotted out instead.
@paulleighton7078 Жыл бұрын
Haha you are 100 % correct here , hopefully this nonsense won’t have any legs any more
@oscarharriet7030 Жыл бұрын
@@paulleighton7078 Absolutely appalling and biased journalism on display as well; Shane Jones did well to keep his cool in the face of a truly unprofessional interview. Please find some decent journalists and less of these Paddy Gower type egotistical ‘show ponies’.
@Mark-g6l7i Жыл бұрын
Her Geen rock carving keeps getting bigger, what is she feeding it ?
@harryflashman4542 Жыл бұрын
Taxpayer's money.
@111mcivor Жыл бұрын
Swear to the king to be in parliament or otherwise head home.
@somefinndude Жыл бұрын
What the hell does being a woman have to do with anything?
@poncholarpez6233 Жыл бұрын
Nothing, it's a cry bully deflection tactic
@deanwitt7903 Жыл бұрын
It’s just another card to play when your trying to portray yourself as a victim .
@2wahineandadog Жыл бұрын
Men and women see/think/work differently it's a different perspective or viewpoint - not sure why everyone thinks it's a "card" that can be pulled out - probably how Shaneel Lal and the transvestite groups think it works but not in actuality
@questor55 Жыл бұрын
She's an intersectionalist, so she's used to that claim having currency. The claim relies on the increasingly absurd assumption that women lack political power in this country.
@antmanatthemoment7233 Жыл бұрын
Let's ask Debbie what a woman/wahine is
@colindigitaljames6619 Жыл бұрын
To be able to March and protest on a normal day of work looks to me like most of them are on a benefit which this free hand out is from people that do have to work for a living. Freight transport and works going to work are all going to be worse off
@DrRatweasel Жыл бұрын
Good job parroting right wing talking points. 😡
@BogDog9 Жыл бұрын
Obstructing a public way is an offence
@Thuglifebabybaby Жыл бұрын
Every one that i walked with at the protest this morning are full time workers, that are now at work..
@warenawainohu2827 Жыл бұрын
Kia ora. I was at the protest and now im at mahi 😊
@peterlattimore6013 Жыл бұрын
@@warenawainohu2827 So you're telling me you're at work but scrolling the internet or just KZbin? yeah, real productive, Not!
@Albertouy Жыл бұрын
It's a pitty that Shane didn't address the Maori mandate comments from Debbie. I think what she doesnt't realize is what people voted is for no specific mandates for races nor cultures but one mandate for everyone regardless of skin colour or faith
@sox7784 Жыл бұрын
Correct that’s what I voted for as did everyone else and the sooner policy changes are implemented the better , let the Kapa Haka party jump up and down they don’t have any power any more
@kathleenpopata9718 Жыл бұрын
ka peke ka peke all it's worth partie Maori The Ppl voted Labor ruined our Country We have 3 Very Strong Male Leadership despite all media blah These men are giving it their All Kia kaha Chris Luxton Winston Peters David Seymore ❤❤❤
@dragonrings14 Жыл бұрын
Breakfast and TVNZ in general, can you maybe not refer to the Sovereign of this nation (the one who gives the Treaty validity btw) as an "old dinosaur". Having King Charles as our figurehead greatly benefits our nation and we should show our appreciation by giving him a little more respect.
@AmonAnon-vw3hr Жыл бұрын
How old is the Maori king? Do you think the media would ever dare call him an old "dinosaur"?
@antmanatthemoment7233 Жыл бұрын
@@AmonAnon-vw3hrif they did, they'd be trouble, double standards are amazing aren't they
@DaHandDatFeeds Жыл бұрын
People respect him but also realize that the royal family is well out of touch and have been for a very long time.
@dragonrings14 Жыл бұрын
@@DaHandDatFeeds Out of touch for what exactly? Their entire job is to be figureheads and do philanthropy. If the Royals still actually governed anything I'd say it matters but given the role is ceremonial I don't really see why it matters.
@DaHandDatFeeds Жыл бұрын
@@dragonrings14 Well, we could mention something trivial like Charles' reliance on pens in the modern age to the point of rage, or, more broadly, that the family, at best, are only Human but yet have not had to endure the hardships of "commoners". Most people can't relate. Also "I don't see why this matters" shows you're out of touch considering the NZ taxpayers have to foot millions for these "philanthropists" to visit. Could you please explain what use they are to NZ'ers in this day and age?
@craybro Жыл бұрын
How can Debbie with 3% of the party vote claim to Maori? The vast majority of Maori chose to vote for other parties.
@BruceWayne1988kl Жыл бұрын
Good on ya Shane speaking what most Newzealanders are thinking
@pgreen8531 Жыл бұрын
Couldnt debbie fund a bigger platic tikki in the two dollar shop
@carlcranfield986 Жыл бұрын
Its a debate how is that bullying cmon debbie. Debbie When you losing a dont cry racist or bullying
@truthprevails5056 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking a Pacifier (dummy) might help???
@harryflashman4542 Жыл бұрын
She can't debate. She's learnt the oppression talking points and if she can't use those all she has are personal attacks.
@francislcollier Жыл бұрын
This debate is exactly what we need to move forward as a country. I am happy that these two are both here to talk not shout!
@francislcollier Жыл бұрын
Also anyone who has any comment on my comment I would love to enter a discussion be it combative or collaborative on a zoom call which we can then upload to our respective social media accounts. New Zealand Aotearoa is a great country!
@banksy1311 Жыл бұрын
Definitely important to keep talking, it’s when you we stop talking that’s when we have something to worry about.
@throughput6674 Жыл бұрын
Is this even a relevant conversation? Seem to me there are bigger far more important issues. Than a small group of losers who only accept a government they voted for?
@ryanparker8773 Жыл бұрын
Interesting how that lady knew there was a few thousand while sitting in the studio.