Shred shack your blowing up on recommend videos for skaters keep it up
@schmooey29584 жыл бұрын
OMG HI I LUV UPUR VIDS
@rodrigo_rssm3 жыл бұрын
I wasn't expecting to find a comment from shred shack lol
@concrete-waves3 жыл бұрын
@@rodrigo_rssm Of course! Shane has some of the best surfskate vids out there
@triedalmosteverything46603 жыл бұрын
I have a Carver Mini Simms with c7 & love carving on it. Have a Shake Jun 31x7.8” board & considering fitting it with a waterborne. I currently use solely my back foot (compression/extension) when distance pumping on my carver. Can I do the same with the waterborne ? Will the waterborne fit on my Shake board or my Mini Simms? I can swap them about if needed. The wheel base on the carver deck is 15” just 1” more then the Shake deck. After using the waterborne, is the carving better then the c7 if fitted on the same deck? Many thanks again for your videos which this 60yo started learning from 3 months ago:) Keep up the good work!
@eizashashariff53473 жыл бұрын
Quick question, does it e adapter works better with TKP or RKP? Thks
@mrcdnte3 жыл бұрын
Why a 22" penny truck instead of a wider truck?
@shanelai25153 жыл бұрын
The narrower front truck is more responsive to force applied
@bocap19804 жыл бұрын
Hi man I bought the front adapter, do you have to buy the rear rail separately? Thanks
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
Check their website. You can buy separately or both together
@bocap19804 жыл бұрын
@@shanelai2515 i just received it, only front adapter, didnt know u have to buy the rear separately I'd otherwise, would you recommend it? Ty
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
@@bocap1980 definitely recommended ! The rail adapter makes everything smooth and flow
I just installed mine on a new board. They’re insane, probably 3x more responsive than my carver.
@klb64533 жыл бұрын
I have to agree. I have both the adapter and rail.
@susiehernandez6652 Жыл бұрын
more expensive? I thought the point was to save money so one didn't have to buy a complete?
@mylesreid709 Жыл бұрын
@@susiehernandez6652 responsive, not expensive
@nicholasrichon50622 жыл бұрын
They're good and work on all sorts of set ups. The only tweak I made was to change the bushings in the rail adapter to some firmer ones for just a little less action and got better speed from pumps.
@erickkusumapunzalan64123 жыл бұрын
Hi, have you tried waterborne adapter with RKP trucks (e.g. paris v3)? Do you think what is the best setup for WB adapter? (traditional kingpin or reserve kingpin trucks)
@cnghiem674 жыл бұрын
When are you going to get your hands on the Smoothstar Felipe Toledo 77 and review that as a surfskate vs surf trainer? Am anxiously awaiting your opinion of the Toledo 77 as a surf trainer. It is an amazing board.
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
I already ordered 2 months ago. They are still catching up on production
@jbernard46734 жыл бұрын
I've got the Felipe Toledo 77 & a Carver snapper (cx trunks). Been using them both since nov. 19' . To me the #77 is by far..... the best surfskate trainer I've tried. You will love it..
@jedinaiit23453 жыл бұрын
@@jbernard4673 what about the Swelltech though? That’s what I have and I love it.
@jbernard46733 жыл бұрын
@@jedinaiit2345 I have not tried the Swelltech but I've heard good things about it. As long as you love it, it's all that matters! ;) Compared between the smoothstar and the carver though, I'd pick the smoothstar every day.
@jedinaiit23453 жыл бұрын
@@jbernard4673 how tall are you brutha? I’m six feet and my swelly has a 21 inch wheel base from bearing to bearing. It feels good. I want something similar
@stevegwilliam39254 жыл бұрын
Thanks......can hardly wait to get mine on my long board!!!! It looks incredible!!!!!Thanks for taking the time to do the review!
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
It is indeed a lot of fun 🤙😊
@helloworld12722 жыл бұрын
How is it on a longboard? Like does it ride the same? I got one and I want to see if I should put it on a longboard or not?
@JosephJujnovich4 жыл бұрын
Nice review - pretty much spot on. I might try my penny truck on my waterborne setup for fun. Also have a Swelltech Hybrid, and cross training between them is awesome - I've noticed the waterborne forces you to push and drive onto the front foot when you're coming out of a turn to keep momentum, so when I jump on the swelltech - which is like liquid by comparison - I'm able to maintain more speed coming out of turns.
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate 🤙 Yeah the waterborne has almost no rebound. So it really forces you to drive through your feet
@SkateTherapy4 жыл бұрын
very nice setup, it seems to remind the swelltech, but with much easier pumping. I would worry about the nose being lower than the tail, however your riding is excellent, I wonder if you just compensate with your skills or if you actually like a lower nose. The fix is easy, use a regular 6 inch skate truck in the back . I never heard about anybody breaking it, but it is always good to have a nose longer than the tip of the adapter, specially for beginners that can kill somebody smashing it on a leg :D gotta look more of your videos, thanks for sharing and work hard on them
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i was borrowing from swelltech's design of narrower front truck. I didn't find the difference in height between back and front to be very significant. Thanks for the tips 😊🤙
@jonathdeBuc3 жыл бұрын
Don't you have wheelbite on the tail truck ??? It looks so at 2'49.....
@shanelai25153 жыл бұрын
Wheelbite can happen at the back depending which truck / configuration you mount on it. I get wheelbite with YOW. You might want a tighter truck or harder bushing if you mount the rail adapter
@microchannel2 жыл бұрын
Props for the excellent review, it is informative and detailed plus the riding is stellar. I have a CX Carver, a Penny Highline, & a Waterborne Surf & Rail adapter on a Landyachtz Tugboat with 155mm Bear Trucks in front & back with 60mm 78a OJ's. I noticed you have those narrow Penny trucks in front, are they better in comparison if you have the same size truck back & front? I'm thinking of doing the same on the Landyachtz Tugboat as an experiment. I'm pretty sure your point of view would be spot since you've tried them, just to want to make sure if it is worth considering. I'm happy with my current quiver but curious how the narrow front truck performs.
@droneshots619225 күн бұрын
Haha I thought I was the only one using my penny board trucks for this
@peresloic53354 жыл бұрын
Wouldn'it be better having the same front and back truck? The board would then be the same height all along. Anyway, great review!
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
Yeah true. I was experimenting with a narrow front truck. Like swelltech design. To me, the difference in height is not significant anyway. Thanks 🤙😊
@coolmatterstome4 жыл бұрын
@@shanelai2515 Brilliant idea! I like where you are going with that! Would really love to see your Swell Tech review someday! Subbed btw! Enjoyed your #77 Toledo SStar review, hopefully you can compare it to the Swell Tech to decide the better surf trainer. No need to reiterate on Carver though- too over done on YT.
@severomagiusto47372 жыл бұрын
I purchased the Waterborne Surf adapter to install it on my Globe The All Times longboard. To my bitter surprise, I found that the front adapter housing was too narrow to accommodate the truck base. I had to file the base of the front truck half a millimeter on one side and half a millimeter on the other to get it in. I believe that the manufacturer and all advisors of this product should warn potential buyers that they may encounter this difficulty. Other than that, the adapter works just fine.
@dmitryivanov16654 жыл бұрын
Dude, did you try Swelltech or Smoothstar? Thoughts?
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
Not yet. Ordered the smoothstar #77 2 months ago. They still catching up on production
@dmitryivanov16654 жыл бұрын
@@shanelai2515 Ok, try swelltech if you get a chance as well, much more wobbly than carver I think
@brunoleao88792 жыл бұрын
How about some riptides bushing for the rebound problem? Thx in advance
@znebrem4 жыл бұрын
Great review. I have the front adapter without the back part. I just have the riser in the back. I don't really understand what the addition for the back trick is meant to accomplish.
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
The rail adapter (back) allows the deck to lean even more. Some people love this huge amount of play. The rail adapter also allows the wheels to maintain surface contact and hence better grip when doing deep carves
@MariaClara-vq4zc4 жыл бұрын
What do you reckon is the ideal wheelbase for these adapters to feel as if I’m riding a shortboard?
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
Most best sellers surfskates claiming to replicate the surf feel have a wheelbase between 17" to 22". Can't say personally as i don't surf, yet.
@SandlapperSam Жыл бұрын
Why are you using 2 different size trucks with the waterborne adapter?
@susiehernandez6652 Жыл бұрын
hmmm, so is this adaptor something you add to your existing trucks or is this a whole truck that you replace with whatever trucks are already on your board? Is the rail adaptor part of the truck adaptor or is it 2 pieces. I"m a surfer but I don't anything on the rail or talk about the rail adaptor only the wheel adaptor.
@iampremshorts2 жыл бұрын
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@TheReal_DeanD4 жыл бұрын
Super helpful. Thanks for sharing this.
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
Glad it helps 🤙
@musk-eteer98982 жыл бұрын
if you put the ocean in your background i would've you are surfing.
@rakanhimadeh19873 жыл бұрын
Hey Shane, thanks for the videos. What’s the idea behind penny trucks for the front adapter. Why not have trucks similar across the board?
@harveyaguilar83913 жыл бұрын
I’ve been wondering as well
@pakenkrak2 жыл бұрын
did you tighten the front adapter bushing? I noticed around 2 or 3 threads on yours
@daikayll18973 жыл бұрын
Very interesting , thanx buddy.
@caseykcc4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Review Shane, thanks for sharing. I just happen to break my Carver CX front truck, stupid accident. Would you recommend the waterborne adapter with the existing rear Carver truck. Or also get the rear waterborne adapter. Cheers
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
I think get the rail adapter too. To me, it's by far the best innovation for rail to rail flow.
@Bumpedoff2 жыл бұрын
this reminds me of the rip stick
@ernieguaimano11644 жыл бұрын
Great review. Looking forward to mine. What size is the deck that you are using? Any idea what the wheelbase is? I’m worried about using too short of a deck.
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
The deck is 30 inches I've drilled new holes. New wheelbase is 20 inches measured from inside bolts.
@fitforfreelance2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@AdventuresInSkateboarding3 жыл бұрын
Is there an ideal wheel base? I feel maybe my first set up is a bit short. What is the purpose of 2 different size trucks? Is their an ideal wheel durometer? I currently have indy 169 trucks and G Bones wheels set up. Just did a video of my set up and first ride. It didn't go so well 😂. But I think it will be a good time and a bit of a break from my normal slam sessions of trying to learn tricks at 44.
@enekomailagarai56424 жыл бұрын
Hi!! I've a questios for you! It's possible to install only the rail adapter on a Carver? It's possible without damage the deck? The differenc between the front and the back truck woulb be confortable? Thanks!! I like your videos? I'm learning surfskating following your tips. Thanks a lot!!
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
Yes it's possible to install on a carver deck. But the rail adapter will add a lot of height on the back. So you will need to figure out a way to level off the board. Also most carver board are a little short. So the rail adapter might shorten the wheelbase even more making the ride difficult
@enekomailagarai56424 жыл бұрын
@@shanelai2515 thanks Shane!!!
@MrAqeelrocks2 жыл бұрын
how does the waterborne fair in a bowl? cant seem to find much videos of that. waterborne should really learn from yow in terms of marketing to inspire noobs like myself
@shanelai25152 жыл бұрын
Too heavy and high and too much range of motion of the rail adapter for the bowl
@tulpa19402 жыл бұрын
I just ordered their new fin adapter. The reason I was interested in the first place was your mention of it being cushy on rough roads. Can't wait!
@tulpa19402 жыл бұрын
I've been sharing this on the surfskate subreddit for a bit now. I found while beta testing the fin that I can toss some Riptide Krank Fatcones in the rail adapter, wide side board side, and it's 1000x better than any riser you can get. I can actually steer my wb setup with my back foot and the fatcones keep me super stable. The lean is much more controlled
@poncho15679 ай бұрын
@@tulpa1940had a front and just got the rail. Do you have a link to the rears you use. Soo many different types of riptide.
@garygrinkevich69714 жыл бұрын
can you open up the assembly and grease the bushing? that squeaking is noisy.
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
Yep. Already done that 👍
@garygrinkevich69714 жыл бұрын
@@shanelai2515 noice
@DoubleOverhead4 жыл бұрын
Perfect Review Shane! 👊☠️👊
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro🤙
@KortovElphame3 жыл бұрын
Waterborne adapter is simply the best...everything else is trash... have mine on an Alva Pesado Grande...and boom!
@PierreRousseau19583 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Thanks. Subscribed.
@FlowJunkie652 жыл бұрын
Hey, excellent channel and vid, thanks Shane - liked and subscribed. Did you find the shorter wheelbase due to the rail adapter negative in any way? Was the shorter wheelbase problematic, or did it make your surf skate turn even more aggressively? I just purchased the Waterborne surf skate adapter via Penny's website because I plan to install it on my 27" or 32" Penny board, but I wasn't even aware of the rail adapter until today, and it sounds like the additional 30 degrees of lean it provides makes it a winner, eh? Thanks for your feedback. Keep up the great job with your channel! Cheers!
@megamaille2 жыл бұрын
very good quality of video and explanations. I bought this adapter after seeing your video. it takes a continuous noise (squealing) coming from the front adapter. I don't know what to do to fix this problem
@emiljwatson2 жыл бұрын
Hi Shane, great review. I have a few questions. The rear trucks, do they need to be really tight? The front trucks, how tight do they need to be? I have tried something crazy but it may be overkill, I've put the Surfskate adapter on but used Gullwing sidewinder trucks on both front and back and its just sooooooo loose. The surfskate adapter is not the waterbourne one so not sure it has that spring action that straightens it out like yours. I also have a convex board so not sure if i've really overdone it. Thanks in advance for any advice or recommendations in advance
@mrcjberg2 жыл бұрын
Does having the narrower penny trucks in the front vs. regular longboard trucks allow you to carve harder or what? Also, what would the ride be like if you had regular longboard trucks in the back instead of the carver?
@muk89113 жыл бұрын
Im thinking of getting both the surf and rail adapter for a friend whose using a skateboard. In your video there wasn't any risers used, do you think I will need to buy it for them?
@fotobread3 жыл бұрын
inspired by your vid, I just try a 3 inch penny truck as front truck. The transition is way smoother! Thanks.
@dennis31723 жыл бұрын
Hi Shane, thanks for the awesome videos. Do you recommend getting both front and back adapter or only the front adapter?
@MrFerFrassia3 жыл бұрын
Dude, your channel is awesome. I can tell you have a lot of experience. Good luck!
@theauthors97283 жыл бұрын
Also how can can I contribute to the channel apart from subscribing and liking?
@bcarrozza71444 жыл бұрын
Perhaps I missed it, but. what deck are you running here? Thanks again!
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
It's a cheap cruiser i bought at the sport store. Tahwahli.
@bcarrozza71444 жыл бұрын
@@shanelai2515 so a regular skateboard doesn't have the right wheel base? Thanks again my man!
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
Depends on the individual. I'm comfortable around a 20" wheelbase
@bcarrozza71444 жыл бұрын
@@shanelai2515 Thanks my friend!
@DP-Universe3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for mine to arrive, thanks for the review!
@diegomatos92804 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a comparison with carver's c5 trucks
@anttoekneeoreo95864 жыл бұрын
Good vid but next time wax the bushings
@LucasRodrigues-qw8to3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the size of his board??
@martuchna60843 жыл бұрын
It is very have board with this adapter.
@authen12343 жыл бұрын
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@LapoSapo4 жыл бұрын
About your setup. You should not use the C2 truck is too hight, and also the penny truck is too narrow. Use normale low and wide trucks
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
Yeah true. I wanted to try very loose trucks. And for the narrow front truck, i was borrowing from swelltech's design.
@TheNate3713 жыл бұрын
Do you know if this would distribute weight better on my longboard? I’m heavy and my longboard flexes a lot to the point of I fear of it snapping. P.S. I’m 300 pounds, quarantine has not been kind, I was 260 last year before everything shutdown.
@harveyaguilar83913 жыл бұрын
I’m 225lbs and it definitely stiffened my longboard
@dr.storme90153 жыл бұрын
Just installed the Waterborne Surf Adapter on My Carver Triton.
@shanelai25153 жыл бұрын
how does it feel ? cx + waterborne ?
@lukeabbott53493 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jesus amen
@SilenceUnspoken3 жыл бұрын
Hope someone sees this even tho the video is old, does anyone have any knowledge/experience on how well these adapters perform with rather cheap/slightly below average quality trucks?
@harveyaguilar83913 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard that since the adapters do all the work, the trucks really don’t matter
@erickkusumapunzalan64123 жыл бұрын
Hi, is it possible to put cx trucks with waterborne adapter? Will it get wheelbite?
@shanelai25153 жыл бұрын
The ride height and weight will be huge. Never tried cx + waterborne but It might feel too flowy to the point of being slack.
@NikoRoma3 жыл бұрын
I see you rock those narrow front trucks quite often. Preferred?
@shanelai25153 жыл бұрын
Love it for its responsiveness
@luismolina85804 жыл бұрын
would there be a big difference without the back rail adapter?
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the rail adapter really makes everything smoother and allows you to lean more on the rail But note the additional weight on the board though
@nicolacrespi92984 жыл бұрын
Hi i have the waterborne adapter as well and it is amazing. I have put it on a longboard pintail and makes it like a LDP set up , you can really surf/pump for km. I have also used the back rail only in combination with carver c7 on a carver deck. It is super fun. The back rail improve a lot surfability if a carver. I am curious to hear your opinion.
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
The rail adapter would have added significant height to the back of the board. How did you level the board ?
@nicolacrespi92984 жыл бұрын
Shane Lai Yes true. I put 4 carver risers on the c7 In this way the board is quite high, but I don’t see it as a problem
@michaell800228 күн бұрын
@nicolacrespi9298 that's so high. 4 risers. They just aren't made for each other.
@knotingspecific4 жыл бұрын
wheelbite free
@jayguerrerolifestyle4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this one sir
@yovni3 жыл бұрын
Could I take a c4 carver set up and add the add the rail and front adapter? No problem, right? Suddenly: A Carver with more Carve!
@shanelai25153 жыл бұрын
You could. It will feel heavy though and chance of wheelbite
@yovni3 жыл бұрын
@@shanelai2515 Thanks for the advice. I will try it on a Miller… a much lighter board overall.
@theauthors97283 жыл бұрын
Hello Shane, for a very "surfy" feel (like Swelltech) what sorta (front) trucks work best under the WB adapter ? Should they be stiff or have a bit of play like the trucks you'd typically find on a cruiser?
@shanelai25153 жыл бұрын
A typical truck works fine. Change to very soft bushing. Maybe 78a. And that's it, super surfy.
@theauthors97283 жыл бұрын
@@shanelai2515 thanks!
@theauthors97283 жыл бұрын
Another question hehe 🙂. I just bought both WB adapters but I have no board yet. I'm trying to find a cheap good option so I'm looking at Decathlon. Do you have any experience or knowledge to share about what board of theirs would be best with the adapter ? I'm thinking either the longboard fish classic or the longboard fish 500.
@shanelai25153 жыл бұрын
Haven't tried any of the decathlon boards. I think their board do have extra holes to adjust the wheelbase, which is a good thing. But i recommend trying to copy Smoothstar design
@theauthors97283 жыл бұрын
@@shanelai2515 thanks for the tip. I ended up buying the oxelo fish 500 with a wheelbase of about 23 inches. It was 80€ and doesn't feel too cheap
@lesstroddenpath37263 жыл бұрын
HI Shane, thanks for the review. I really like your methodical approach to teaching and enhancing learning with visual aids. Keep up the great work, mate!👍🏾😀 I've just started out surf skating... actually skating on a board itself. Period. And your vids have really been helpful. Thank you! (The last time I played with a skateboard was 38 years ago when they were banned in my country due to road accidents.) So I'm an old fart on a board! 😅😛 Oh, may I know what you use to edit you videos, pls? It's clean, neat and undistracting. I would like to try it for some other stuff that I'm doing. Thanks!
@shanelai25153 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks so much for your words 😊 How's the progress so far ? I use VivaVideo. It's cheap and does the job!
@lesstroddenpath37263 жыл бұрын
@@shanelai2515 Thanks, Shane. I'll check VivaVideo out. As for my Surf Skating, I think I'm improving steadily. I need to strengthen my quads and hamstrings so that I can bend better and smoother. But I am conscious of my every move, groove, sway, & rhythm. How my hands, arms, hips, legs, ankles move speeds or slows. I like more pronounced carves, but it slows down the speed as opposed to higher frequency little waves. At least after about 6 weeks since starting off, with about 3 times a week practice, I can now surf a 4 km flat bitumen running track without needing to kick the pavement at all. Just carving. Lots more to learn. Having fun along the way. Cheers!
@Noronhadiver4 жыл бұрын
What's the size of the deck/board you use in this vídeo?
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
31" long
@Noronhadiver4 жыл бұрын
@@shanelai2515 I am 6" tall and I have just bought a Waterborne surf adapter. I have no idea of what deck size and wheelbase is good for me. I guess I will use Smoothstar FT 77# as a reference and copy its dimensions. I am a surfer. This is my first surfskate. Nice vídeos! Thanks!
@koaballero27943 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the useful tips. What do you think about pairing a Smoothstar thruster and a Waterborne rail adapter at the back? Have you tried it?
@shanelai25153 жыл бұрын
It can work. Never tried it. Rail adapter is going to make the ride really smooth. But i will only use then when riding on flat. Not in skate parks and bowls
@koaballero27943 жыл бұрын
@@shanelai2515 too loose?
@shanelai25153 жыл бұрын
@@koaballero2794 too much deck lean rather. It brings another level of board control But on the streets and flat ground, it's awesome
@theauthors97283 жыл бұрын
Hi Shane, thanks for your awesome videos. What type of deck works best with the WB adapter to get the best surf feel? Are cruisers decks a good fit? Are cruiser decks usually concave? Also, would it be weird to use a "normal" symmetrical skateboard deck?
@shanelai25153 жыл бұрын
You definitely want a bit of concave to help secure your feet on the board and to push more into the the turns. Also look for a wheelbase that matches your surfing stance or slightly longer.
@petergardner4772 жыл бұрын
I added one to my regular skateboard deck and trucks. No problems.
@theauthors97282 жыл бұрын
(replying to myself) I've set them up on a cheap-ish cruiser, it works pretty well. You do get a surfskate experience but personnally I found that a proper surfskate is sligthly better (I've tried swelltech and yow which I both liked). The advantage of waterborne is that it's slightly cheaper and you can set it up on any board.
@surehusky4 жыл бұрын
Great review
@shanelai25154 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🤙
@Nobodynewduh3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I’ve never heard mechanism pronounced MECHAN-ism before. Always MECH-anism. Learned about skateboards and culture