JetBlack VICTORY Smart Trainer Review: Unrivalled on Price, Features, Performance!

[@richardhutchings1980]

Excellent to see some more competition in this space and a fantastic and cheap product offering

[@robbyd3892]

Cheap denotes quality. Inexpensive would be the better word. ☝️

[@saintuk70]

I have a Jet Black that I bought 4 years or so ago, never has let me down.... Really good to hear the Victory is setting numbers!

[@rommelreyes2209]

I hope that electronic cassette is compatible with older trainers like volt 1

[@tonysimmonds9660]

@@rommelreyes2209 An update for the Volt for electronic shifting will be released shortly.

[@shimona500]

my launch zwift hub fails to scale up to intervals sometimes

[@mtd87]

My volt2 is now 3.5 years old. Only let down so far is that JB keep announcing virtual shifting for the volt, only the firmware update never actually gets released. Last announcement was for september, nothing so far...

[@murrayhealey1903]

@@mtd87 Hi, this has been a harder build than expected. We are working hard to get this out. I am hoping, all going well it will be in November. Will keep all posted.

[@randomdude5938]

Jeez. Impressive. If this were any other channel I’d think it was an ad.

[@gplama]

Details are in the data. This thing works. I'll say the same things about any other trainer that performs as well as this one..... hopefully the next few through the door are just as good.

[@randomdude5938]

@@gplamato be clear I do not think you’re getting paid. I was being genuine.

[@gplama]

@@randomdude5938 All good. 👍🏼

[@ojtamno]

​Yeah :D I love to see GP Lama so excited about something that WORKs and is not just a shiny webpage full of dreams. So far I got 3 items recommended on this channel and there is no regrets whatsoever

[@rednal4451]

Damn, I'm so happy to have sold my Kickr v5 a month ago and having decided to wait out for the Victory. Can't wait already, a victory it will be, so excited!

[@shred3005]

Jet Black knocking it out of the park! For that price and features they won’t be able to keep up demand.

[@xetra21]

All being well we'll get them here in the UK by the end of the month. Very much looking forward to getting mine.

[@thomaswalker7247]

As always you have done a great job. I'm one of those Kickr owners that bought the Play controllers thinking it was going to be compatible "any day now". I will be ordering this.

[@rongurney48]

Wahoo abandoned its V5 customer base by reneging on their original promise of bringing virtual shifting to the V5. Earlier Kickr models are also SOL.

[@svenni011]

Using a kickr V5 myself. Was about to buy the zwift cog and click before i realised it was not compatible. Im sure they can make it compatible, but they want us to spend more money on a new kickr V6 or core..

[@davidstihler9689]

Based on your review I was able to order one on Nov 6th they were sold out just after I saw your review and I got on the waiting list. I was going to pickup a wahoo kicker curve or Wahoo kicker but I have so much respect for your experience I went with the Victory. They said it should be here end of Dec or thereabouts. I'll let you know how I like it after it's setup. Thanks so much for your review.

[@samgurling2026]

Not planning on upgrading my trainer. Watched this review. Ordered the JetBlack Victory. Kickr v5 up for sale.

[@philiptarry702]

Can I just ask, what is wrong with the V5? Is it the fact it doesn’t work with the ZWIFT controls? That’s what did it for me, but apart from that …I couldn’t fault it

[@ipaterson]

​@@philiptarry702I'm in this same boat. I have the v5 and the Ethernet connection. I am kind of sour about the lack of zwift controls, but I really mostly just use ERG mode. It's a want thing more than a need thing at this point

[@davidw2739]

It's been so long since I've shopped for a trainer that I don't even know what a Zwift Cog is, but this looks great, and it's much cheaper than just going for another Tacx like probably would have done. Thanks for the great review!

[@BeeblebroxTV]

Happy to see the Victory performing well in the tests, it's making a mockery of the Wahoo unit pricing and particularly the outlandish pricing of Tacx. Really hoping JetBlack can make a major success of this trainer and establish themselves as the benchmark not only for features and performance but also for fairer pricing! I'm sure there will be some Wahoo/Tacx pushback about it doing "only 1800w" and "only 16% inclines", but seriously for anything other than seriously top class riders that is plenty

[@SnaxNoCo]

If you don't want to simulate anything more than 16% climbs, that's great--but the real world can be much steeper, so I'll stick with my Tacx Neo 2T (which also has a

[@jeffb1886]

Frankly if my grade is above 16%, I’ll be glad the trainer tops out there. That’s plenty for me!! 😂

[@michael1]

Well, I dunno. Let's see how reliable they are first. I mean Wahoo's biggest claim to fame isn't making robust reliable products is it? It's sending out replacements for broken ones without fuss. Ultimately for that to be profitable they are pricing to accommodate the high return rate. So, either Jet are super reliable and cheap, in which case Wahoo are screwed. Or Jet'll have just as many junk ones as Wahoo - maybe more. At which point either they'll replace them as swiftly and readily as wahoo do (and lose money) or end users will be screwed. Call me a cynic but I don't believe there's a high probability this firm has created a more reliable product that's undercutting everyone else - that makes no sense. Remember that the core looked like a cheaper than chips game changing trainer when it first appeared, but the first lot turned out to be junk and even now a lot of end users (myself included) have to do fixes for things. It's like zwift rides seem to be cheap tat, they can't even deliver all the parts, they don't sell spare parts and the parts on the "bike" are all non standard. So, sure it's cheaper than a wattbike atom but it's not really a threat to the latters business is it?

[@SnaxNoCo]

@@jeffb1886 Yep, probably true for most people!

[@inocybe91]

@@SnaxNoCo Does it really worth double/triple the price ?

[@desbrug]

There he is! Saying its 2% accurate, its pretty darn accurate. Made my order just after the ride with you saturdays. Now hoping they will be able to ship.

[@galenkehler]

Anticipated is right! This is going to turn the market upsode down🎉

[@PatrickLino]

Are you ready Galen!???

[@galenkehler]

@@PatrickLino yeah my gf has been bugging me to get a second trainer so we don't have to share, this sounds like just the ticket, and they distribute to Canada 🇨🇦

[@ajmeyer66]

I bought the JetBlack Volt last Christmas and I am very happy with it, but this review makes it very tempting to "upgrade" to this latest version, however my wife would have a fit if I did.

[@DiegoMoscardi]

OMG .. thanks for accurate review. After 8 years with another brand I have pre-ordered Victory the middle of September. I hope to receive soon because the weather situation here in Italy is not so good :-P

[@lainerrr]

I have been boxing with non direct drive Bkool Smart PRO 2 since December 2017 and also pre-ordered Victory and anxoiusly waiting here in Poland. No info about delivery for you yet?

[@DiegoMoscardi]

@@lainerrr I received the email for refound the 24th of September and they said: The first container of Victories are on the way to us and we will start shipping all preorders around 15th of october.

[@jaredfritzsch9891]

@@DiegoMoscardi really interesting, bc they send me an email today, that they cant hold the promised shipping date of the 15th of october, and the shipping will be delayed for 3 weeks, because the container is stuck on the sea bc of bad weather conditions...

[@DiegoMoscardi]

@@jaredfritzsch9891 unfortunately I received the same email today… no words.

[@epuru]

Placed my order on 25 september at 449,95EUR + 12,95EUR shipping. Hope to get it soon. Thanks for the review!

[@adamsarkany92]

Kind of annoying that it is 499 eur now

[@gplama]

Keep us posted when it arrives and you've ridden it! 👌🏼

[@k1mfor]

@@adamsarkany92 yeah I avoided buying it too when they raised the price, I guess the price now is 499 eur even though they promised 449? Anyway seems like it's not even available for purchase anymore

[@bolobolognese]

@@adamsarkany92 huh? It says 449 for me. I originally bought right when it came out and was 499 € and they refunded me 50.

[@donmemoli]

@@adamsarkany92 seems like they just changed it back to 449€.

[@diracflux]

Thanks for the great review Shane 👍 Very happy this can be ordered in Australia.

[@AchternaamPaul]

Ordered my last week… hopefully fast delivery 😊

[@JohnyBarbs]

I just bought one in store in Canada. It’s my first trainer so I hope it was a good buy!

[@grok76]

Ours arrived in Brisbane today. Looking forward to trying it out.

[@stewartdeall4639]

Can’t wait to get my hands on it! Thanks again!

[@mellowdrifter]

Soon as I saw this months back I knew I had to have it. I already had the kickr core, but wanted that 10hz and WiFi. I ended up selling my core for $400 three month ago. Risky, but summer has been good outside and I pre-ordered the Victory. Glad to see I'm justified there. Now the only issue is when do I get my trainer :) Currently US based so I'm oping I get it before it gets TOO cold outside

[@tonysimmonds9660]

JetBlack will be sending out an email to those that have repurchased shortly with updated arrival dates...it is on its way. Thanks so much for waiting.

[@mikebrooks215]

Awesome product! The Jet Black Victory and the Zwift Ride a perfect match on Zwift!

[@charlesstorey8425]

A high spec direct drive trainer for pretty much the price i paid for a wheel on kickr snap in around 2020. I'll wait to see how it performs with a standard cassette and then it might be time to get one of these. Really thorough and useful review as usual. Looking forward to see you test it with a standard cassette and to seeing how other manufacturers respond.

[@ALCrew]

Pre ordered from the UK, shipping mid December, upgraded from V5 Kickr that doesn't support virtual shifting, I guess I'll just use that for mywhoosh/Rouvy/indieVelo in the future. Good review 👍🚴‍♂️

[@ShamanMick]

Well this trainer is looking every bit as good as you hinted in your Zwift 10 year anniversary ride. I will have to plant the idea in wifey's head that it's time for an upgrade for Christmas...

[@phil_d]

Got to love those Aussies making top-tier stuff in their shed! Well done 👏

[@gplama]

*Made in Vietnam.

[@ConstantRider]

Good to see an Aussie company leading the charge. Well done JetBlack... Now how about making that fan more adjustable...

[@glennoc8585]

I thought they were taiwanese

[@daniel.g94]

I called them just now. First batch is sold out. Second shipment will leave Vietnam 25October and delivery will be December.

[@Christianawaldemar]

December?! When their product page says shipping late October, I'm not expecting it to take over a month to ship.

[@plantag]

They didn’t give a better date on when they are expecting first batch?

[@jeffgaz]

@@plantagcurrent estimates from Jetblack is the first batch of pre orders will arrive to customers in the US middle of November, the first batch just left their factory earlier this week

[@xprotestorx]

⁠@@Christianawaldemarthe October ship time was for the first production run that is sold out.

[@k1mfor]

And now it's "available Dec 31". So basically this product doesn't even exist for mass market, waited 6 months only to have to buy the Kickr Core anyway, fuck this company

[@fluek66]

So glad it got a awesome review cos i preordered it a while ago and so pump to it it soon :)

[@MM-kt5dv]

This will totally shake up the pricing of smart trainers (again)! It will be hard for Wahoo & Elite to justify over 2.5X the price for their high-end trainers. I guess another unknown will be durability over time & support.

[@tsops22]

Excellent review! I have ordered one (UK) and also just received the JetBlack fan! It would be great if you can do a review of their fan at some point if possible please; interested in what you think, thank you!

[@alexanderneumann6567]

Wow silencio trainer! Makes my Wahoo Kickr 2017 version sound like a jetplane

[@voegelm]

Quick update on my side: my trainer arrived today :) It's very similar to the Zwift One. However the feed are different. Unboxing and startup all fine. Pretty much self explanatory. Wifi Connection without any issues- fist ride in a short while (2hr workout).

[@voegelm]

Tested it a couple of days and rides! Great trainer. I am very happy so far. WiFi connection is stable, ride feel is great. Workouts are also good (the only annoying thing is that Zwift is setting gear 8 as standard in free ride, that’s way to soft…)

[@glennoc8585]

Had the old whisperdrive and it was great for what it was at that time.

[@exerscreen2525]

Thanks! This was really helpful. Do you know if it happens to do BLE multi-connect?

[@specialblorb]

Good question. Dual BT on the original volt is a handy feature.

[@gplama]

BLE x3 - Should be enough for any combination. (And thank you for the generous super chat $!)

[@ashleypeaker]

another great review mate.👍 I’m like a kid at christmas mine should be here today or tomorrow at the latest 🤭🎄👏🏻

[@ashleypeaker]

as a side note those lama legs are still looking good 👍

[@ethanw9434]

I paid $630 for my Jet-black Victory from 99 Bikes. Cant wait to get it!

[@ALeagueMan]

How did you manage $630? Or is that a typo :D

[@ethanw9434]

@ALeagueMan my employer offers 15% off the full price at 99bikes. Usually doesn't do anything because of "club price".

[@wardkurisu]

​​What code is that? 😅​@@ethanw9434

[@Ballacks101]

My original Tacx Neo is on its last legs so this is perfect timing

[@NormanScarazzo]

thanks shane as always for you insight. i look forward to your reports from week to week. so the jetblack ride quality...would it be accurate to say that its on par with the wahoo kickr core? i think the heavier flywheel of the wahoo v6 feels better that the core. assume that the jetblack victory feels like the core unit?

[@mikeainsworth4504]

If they package that trainer with the hoods from the Zwift bike, I would be really tempted to buy one. (My current set up is a Wahoo Kikr V5 with a cheap second-hand frame that stays on the turbo)

[@Lacking_something]

Ordered!

[@gplama]

Keep me posted on how it goes for you mate. 👌🏼

[@mikeellis4345]

This jet black trainer is very good news for me, I need a silent trainer. Question answered! Cheers.

[@chrishophoto]

I realize that I am probably part of a minuscule few who rides Campagnolo equipped bike. No mention of a Campagnolo compatible free hub here, and before say, "just use the Zwift Cog," those Zwift gear change controllers won't mount onto my bike because they sit right where my thumb lever is on the bike. I wonder if they will have a Campagnolo option in the future? For now, I am happy with my V6 Kickr, but this looks extremely impressive!

[@lifeincycling]

Pre ordered before finishing the video, hoping I didn't miss a discount code at the end haha

[@gplama]

No code pimping in this one. Buy from wherever you choose. 👌🏼

[@lifeincycling]

£15 flat rate shipping btw.

[@kevinbarkema1666]

I suffered from Bluetooth so bad on my last trainer the company agreed to take it back and give me a full refund. I was terrified of buying another trainer. The WIFI option has me sold. Giddy Up !!!!!

[@abedfo88]

Wow amazing what a company can achieve when it isnt trying to completely gouge your eyes out.

[@richardpiotrowski1043]

I pre-ordered one of these as soon as Wahoo came out with the BS that they couldn't update the firmware on the V5...Looks like I've made a good decision that'll save me a SL of money...don't know how many times I almost pulled the trigger on the Move...

[@richardpiotrowski1043]

Just got an email that it's shipping next week...

[@lainerrr]

Waiting for my unit here in EU :)

[@paullumsden7825]

Nice one Shane! #itsawinner

[@eloann]

This looks great not only in itself but to drive the whole market towards high quality at lower prices I'm still leaning towards the Elite Avanti mostly because of the form factor and 1% accuracy ; hoping to see your review of it soon

[@sgp7975]

This will replace my Wahoo Kickr V5. I'll avoid Wahoo in the future given their lack of support for the V5.

[@svartvikenett4392]

Hey Shane, really appreciate the work that you do! Would you say that this is a solid upgrade from the Elite Zumo?

[@gplama]

Yes. The Zumo was also a surprise package at the time, iirc. It's a few years old now though.

[@edsinofsky]

on the waitlist.

[@stevemurphyphotography9609]

Great review and I am excited to purchase one, but they are sold out in the US and they are not taking backorders, so no way to even place an order and have it delivered in the future. I suspect the $399 is an introductory price and the price will increase when they make it available for future orders. Oh well, I guess I will either have to wait until some undermined date in the future or consider other options, not knowing when more may be available.

[@tonysimmonds9660]

Steve, we will be reopening the USA site for further pre-orders shortly. We want to make sure that when we do that we are communicating realistic delivery dates so we do not disappoint. Please register your interest and you will be notified as soon as the site is open again. The US$399 price is not introductory but will be the ongoing price. Thanks for your excitement and we look forward to getting you your Victory as soon as possible.

[@stevemurphyphotography9609]

@@tonysimmonds9660 Great news and thank you for stepping in to replay. I look forward to placing my order once the site has been updated.

[@plantag]

The only thing the review didn’t cover I guess was how it feels. Wahoo have made a big deal about fly wheel weight using it as part of the improved value between the core and kickr for example. Given the fly wheel weight is less on this than the core is this one area you would recommend a core over this or is it so slight you don’t really notice it? Thanks for the great review

[@bstaplet]

Have a Kickr 5 and wondering same thing. Tempted to swap and then look at the Zwift bike next winter

[@fabianmolyneux2308]

Great and thorough review as always, which can be relied upon. Thank you. Can I use my Wahoo climb with this trainer?

[@gplama]

No. There is no full pivoting axle. It’s something they could possibly retro-fit at a later date.

[@rongurney48]

Like the handle and the base tweak, making it more stable. Core - $499 with cassette; Victory - $399 with V2 Cog. Durability ? Time will tell.

[@MichelBertrand]

A good buy only if you live in the USA. In Canada, that $400 USD should be $560 CAD, but they sell it for... $800 !!! I've been on their subscription list since it was announced, but seeing this price, it's a straight no for me. I'm tired of price gouging.

[@jamesrshort]

@gplama given the specs of this unit and performance, do you find it hard to suggest spending nearly double for a current version Kickr or Neo 2T if cost is no object? Thank you for spending so much time in test this gear to allow us, the consumer, to make an informed decision.

[@heikkisanelma6625]

now we need nordic winter testing, elite has been brilliant putting out connections season after season in sub zero conditions too on the balcony...

[@stephenbetley9596]

That's a shot across the bow. Really wavering atm about what to do about upgrading from the Kickr v4 to a next gen trainer with 10Hz etc. The price drop by Wahoo needs to be permanent and also have a trade-in option as well. This as a specialist Zwift only / Erg option is up there.

[@stephenbetley9596]

Oh, and still love my Assiomas I've had since 2019. Just hoping they bring out a road Pro version with the new spindle, and they can take my money.

[@Ivar77777]

Can't wait to get rid of Wahoo Kickr that I got with Zwift Ride!

[@Staplechips]

Are you disappointed by the kickr? Just looking for my first trainer. The jetblack is available in December here in Germany 😢

[@Ivar77777]

@@Staplechips quite a bit, yes. I used Elite Suito last season and it was quiet and worked like a charm. Then I got a Zwfit Ride and immediately two different issues (plastic cups make noise) and a "rubbing" sound. Replaced plastic cups with spacers and some sprockets and I still have a rubbing sound (especially while spinning down). Googling, reading, looking around - and I am not alone. QA seems to be an issue with Wahoo.

[@davidrowe8747]

If it works, why get rid of it? Perfectly good trainer.

[@Panos_T93]

Great review! I received an email which says that it will be a 3 weeks delay at Europe deliveries. Is there anyone in the world that received a unit except reviewers?

[@gplama]

Yes.

[@jaredfritzsch9891]

here the same. bc of bad weather conditions on the sea...

[@willdavid989]

Great review! Been debating between the Neo 2T and Victory… even if price is no object, it sounds like this holds its own?

[@gplama]

The 2T was a good unit... but It's five years old now. The Victory even puts the Neo 3M to the sword. Especially on price!

[@willdavid989]

@@gplama Hard to tell from you using the Ride, but would I need a riser block to level a bike correctly?

[@psouthworth]

Thanks for the video. I have a few questions left: 1. Is WiFi 2.4GHz only like Wahoo, or can it do 5GHz? 2. Will they offer SRAM or Campagnolo freehub bodies for it? 3. Does it use the same freehub body as the Volt?

[@murrayhealey1903]

Hello, only 2.4Hz. We will have XRD free hub bodies in the very near future. Sorry no Campag at this stage. (use Zwift Cog) The free hub body is different than the Volt.

[@shred3005]

I am interested to see how it tests with a standard cassette as I’ll be ditching the Zwift cog out of the box. Since moving to Wahoo SYSTM a couple of years back I can’t get myself interested in Zwift anymore.

[@jonathanzappala]

Looks great if I needed one. No reason to get a cog-less kickr core on prime big deals this week, or the h3 blow out sale. I got a h3 right before the bankruptcy for $450. I like it was made in USA though, but certainly lacks all these great new features.

[@Psychotext]

Thinking this plus a rocker plate will be perfect for me to finally replace my old dumb trainer. Thanks to the pricing it'll actually come in a touch less than a Kickr.

[@martindimbleby1439]

Thanks for another great review Shane. I'm tempted to swap my Neo 2T for one for all the extra features. Will there be any significant drop in road feel if I make the switch? The Neo has a little bit of sway left to right, is the Victory rigid? Cheers 🙂

[@gplama]

Ride feel of a flywheel trainer is better than the early Neo units, imo. The Victory is rigid. You’ll get flex from whatever flooring you use and the bike you use on it.

[@martindimbleby1439]

@@gplama Thanks dude.....Victory ordered

[@PatrickLino]

I'm always jealous at how easily you can pop out 1200w sprints haha

[@99cya]

as always, very good review. i am using a garmin tacx neobike and I am wondering, is this jetblack victory together with that new zwift bike a superior solution? is there any compelling reason to replace my garmin? im doing around 1200km/month on zwift. Thanks :)

[@miles8777]

If you were buying a zwift ride with a trainer would you buy this trainer over the wahoo kickr Core that it comes with if bought as a package? It looks Like Id save $100 and get a better trainer?? Awesome Video!

[@wohmoh9841]

Do you know if the trainer is compatible with the either the kickr climb or elite rizer?

[@intotheswim1]

I made the same mistake assembling mine - the assembly video from Jetblack notes using the other tool which has the shorter allen key with no clearance issues.

[@GuyAnthuenis]

I was about to order my Wahoo Kickr Bike, but seeing this kind of performance and accuracy, one would think again. Combine this with the Ride frame, take peace with some more noise (but still well acceptable i think) and you can see quite some money. Now where did I put my decision tree on my next purchase... Of course we are talking about a complete different technology stack and ride feel. Would you have doubts in you were in my position today?

[@lexington476]

Wow, $400? Now we're talking. really the only reason I have not upgraded from my old conventional fluid trainer to a Smart trainer was the cost. To myself I just could not justify $1,200 for a trainer. Llama fills us in with information again.

[@ojtamno]

I see that white tape on handlebar is still white. Teach me, master! :D Mine typically becomes gray within a month. And it doesn't matter how much I try to clean it :(

[@gplama]

I never take the Zwift Ride outdoors. 😂

[@shepshape2585]

I almost wish my Wahoo Kickr Snap wasn't working so well so I'd have an excuse to buy this. The great thing is, if this thing catches on like it should, it'll force the big companies to follow suit and start making affordable trainers, as opposed to the severely overpriced trainers out there now.

[@bananosipedist]

Hello, I have Wahoo Kickr V6 and I’m avg user, no 1 kw sprints etc., no racing at the moment - so basically I’m wondering if “the feeling” of pedalling on JB Victory is comparable with V6, or at least - not worse? Thx in advance. If all things are same, I would sale my V6🤷‍♂️

[@daniel.g94]

Nooooo. I cannot preorder it anymore. I just have to join a waiting list :(( *crying in undecidedness *

[@martindirkzimmer]

same here🙁

[@David-r3b7f]

Great review as always buzzing to get mine. I am guessing we can use the USB port as a charger for phones etc?

[@gplama]

I haven't stuck anything into the USB port as nothing supports it yet. I assume it's data only, no charge.

[@tonysimmonds9660]

David, port will be data only, no charge.

[@alexfirth]

Would be great if that USB C port had USD-PD (power delivery) to charge laptops and tablets. Imagine in the future, you run a single cable from your trainer to your laptop/tablet and receive power and trainer data to Zwift. Think I'm asking a little too much here!

[@David-r3b7f]

Just received a email informing me that it’s going to be shipped next week. According to Google 6 to 8 weeks from Aus to the Uk. I am going to hold on as I believe the product surpasses anything else out there

[@duvels86]

Put myself on the waiting list when the trainer was announced. Saw this video, went to the website and the first lot is sold out without getting a notification 😞

[@diaboloshaufulin9347]

Great review. I'm in, have just placed the order, but will need to wait until next year for delivery I guess. Has anybody an experience how this might work with Rouvy and virtual shifting by QZ app ? I'd like to use it for both my bike and my son's mountain bike so changing the real cassettes all the time is not really good option.

[@Kommitr]

I'm sorry if it's been asked before, but I can't find any mention of it. I know it says zwift cog supports only 8-12 speed, but could I put a 7-speed bike on it anyway without it causing damage? Is it an issue with chain width? Rear dropouts width/distance? I guess this means I would have to put a 7-speed casette on, even if I want to use virtual shifting, right?

[@tonytopanga6407]

Was waiting to pre-order in Europe since the price increased to €499.95 for some reason. Now it's back to €449.95 but you can't order anymore because the first batch is sold out. I sold my trainer to replace it with the Victory so now I'm without a trainer until at least December, kinda bummed..

[@k1mfor]

Same here, what an unprofessional blunder of a launch. Guess I'm buying something else then because I can't wait half a season for the next availability (and I'm sure it's gonna be sold out immediately in Dec too).

[@SamDCFC]

Looks awesome; since you are testing so far only on the Zwift Cog you are obviously using Virtual Shifting in Zwift; any signs of auto calibration getting skewed?? Especially if you load the trainer HARD in 100% TD and using gears 22-24????..........

[@gplama]

Sounds like the current Wahoo/Kickr issue (they're due to release the firmware to resolve any time now). Given it's an entirely different unit, I wouldn't expect it to have the same issue. Although as pointed out deep in the data section - there might be something fuzzing with things by a few watts when switching ERG/SIM/ERG etc.

[@thedownunderverse]

Got myself a core for $650 here in Melb, pretty happy with it

[@gplama]

That's a good deal on the CORE. I'd have loved to see the CORE v2 (or v3) by now with WiFi!

[@thedownunderverse]

@@gplama that’ll be just my luck! But I saw bikesonline had a sale on cores including shipping, then went to 99 bikes and got a 5% price beat. That forced my hand considering I’ve got a bolt (v1) and wanted to be able to control the core with it.

[@davidrowe8747]

@@gplama I'm not rushing for the Victory, in the hope Wahoo will follow suit with improved connectivity (and put a bl00dy handle on it!) I've been very happy with Wahoo's customer support (they replaced my Core - twice - with out quibbles, although as it turned out the problem wasn't with the trainer).

[@funk44]

Kinda want my tacx to die so i can justify getting one of these Edit: fuck it, ordered. Gotta support an Aussie company and can probably flog my tacx on ebay for $400. Shane, you should have a code for your name or something. I'm guessing this review is going to move a lot of units

[@badbasic]

Yeah, better sell your TACX and get some money back, that thing ain't dying any time soon😅

[@percyveer2355]

interesting video. i'm in the market for a trainer upgrade. i currently have a kickr v5, if money is not considered, would you choose this over a kickv6, or without endorsing one over the other, in your opinion, would i be losing out choosing this over the kickr. many thanks

[@voegelm]

Placed my order a while back and got a 50€ refund in the meantime- can’t wait to get mine soon !

[@fwschnaar3179]

Guessing when the Competitions Sales plummet… Their Prices will Adjust as needed to Survive 🤔👍🚴‍♀️🚴‍♂️🚴‍♀️🚴‍♂️

[@mattruebel]

Would you wait for the JackBlack Victory to be more available or if money (ie. if you could get a good deal) wasnt an issue would you still prefer/recommend the Kickr Core Zwift One or the Neo 2T?

[@gplama]

At this point I wouldn’t be recommending the 2T. It’s over five years old and we don’t know Garmin/Tacx position on future updates (such as a Zwift protocol support etc).

[@davidrowe8747]

Shane, could you post the length of the right half of the front leg, from the edge of the bracket to the end? Just checking whether it will fit onto my rocker plate or will hang over the edge. I have a bit of spare room (Kickr Core) so don't think it will be a problem, but couldn't find this information on Jet Black's Web site.

[@Omnis2]

The website says maximum rider weight is 120kg or 264 lbs. Is there any non-commercial trainer out there that supports weights over 300 lbs? Is it really going to be a problem to be overweight on one of these?

[@mallonox]

750 AUD! undercutting kickr core by $150 and includes Zwift Cog and Click!!

[@lexington476]

7:37 I can hear Eminem's greatest hits playing from llama's basement 😀.

[@dronetoulouse]

Hope soon available in EU. Can´t wait.

[@daniel.g94]

If you didn't preorder, it will be december :(

[@dronetoulouse]

​@@daniel.g94not said like this on their site.

[@k1mfor]

@@daniel.g94 source?

[@jvlavl44]

Would this work well with a Mtb using 34 or 36 front ring compensating for what would be a lack of top speed (on non zwift hub trainer) with use of electronic gears?

[@georgehagstrom4022]

How concerned are you about thermal stability of power accuracy? I know with the Zwift Hub one had thermal stability issues if you have a high FTP. This trainer is designed with racing in mind so I'm curious if you did any testing with sustained high power efforts.

[@gplama]

I didn’t see any drifting issues with the Victory in my testing that I observed with the Volt/Hub.

[@georgehagstrom4022]

@@gplama Thanks!