Shang-Chi's Unsung Hero

[@NandovMovies]

Try 5 pairs of glasses at home for free at warbyparker.com/nando Who is everyone's favorite Spider-Man?

[@wellbornyouth]

Jake Johnson!

[@Cdr2002]

Miles Morales

[@hellfish2309]

John Bubniak (Insomniac Spiderman)

[@CarlStevenson21]

Andrew Garfield. Tobey’s Spider-Man is overrated and Tom’s Spider-Man is simply a bad adaptation.

[@marijamarcelic3149]

Character, *PARKER!!!!!!!* Actor, Josh Keaton (spetacular Spiderman) or holland

[@ryanblaz4118]

He said nitpicky like 18 times in a single paragraph without once mentioning his podcast I'm impressed

[@IcyDiamond]

Unlike his podcast Mostly Nitpicking

[@waldorfpatriot]

Great point Ryan

[@sine-spike]

He’s just that frustrated, this must be completely off-script

[@falsenames]

I'd complain about upvoting, but that would be nitpicking, unlike Nando's podcast....

[@TheSeanChannel]

I have a unique perspective on this and I'm sure it's to late since the videos been up a few hours but I ACTUALLY DO THIS JOB. Not like I'm a valet at some random hotel but I'm actually the front door man/valet at the Fairmont San Francisco which is where this movie was filmed and shang even name drops it in the movie. Needless to say I very much enjoy my job. My asian family thinks it's a bad job because it doesn't involve me being a nurse yet I get paid more then most my friends with more "prestigious" jobs. Bonus points that my name is also Sean. This is my favorite marvel movie now.

[@matthewjanzen4837]

Dude that’s sick! Not many people have the actual job of an MCU hero!

[@NandovMovies]

That is wild and this might be my favorite comment ever

[@Moshuun]

I think those underachieving tones are from an Asian perspective as in their culture the standards are really high.

[@freakyfro99]

Yeah idk if he was aware of that aspect. That and that could be a reason why she's still living at home too. It's way more common in Chinese culture for the family to live together like that rather than having everyone move out.

[@monicag.k.tambajong]

@@freakyfro99 Yeah I feel like this gets missed a lot when non-Asian talks about how Katy is still living with her family. In a lot of Asian culture, not just Chinese, it's rare for someone to move out to live with their own nuclear family or even to live alone.

[@thedoctor101fez]

Yes, I was watching her character arc through this lens. Nando mustn’t have been aware

[@iau]

That only reinforces Nando's point. Katy was being pressured by her family into being something other than a driver. The movie could have shown she was born to drive.

[@matthewharvey3556]

@@monicag.k.tambajong I agree it’s common for Asian families to have multi-generational households. So an adult child living with their parents or parents moving in with a grown child’s family, often to help care for their grandchildren, is very common. But if all the Chinese families I know here in the US, mostly first-generation immigrant families, I’ve never seen a child grow up, get married, and have kids and stay living in their parents’ home.

[@iainronald4217]

Thank you, Nando. Now, I want to see a scene in an upcoming Avenger's film where Happy, Luis, and Katy play a high-speed sports car shell game to buy the main heroes some time to escape.

[@hollykm]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@hcxpl1]

That's What If...? pitch number 51

[@iainronald4217]

@@hcxpl1 Yeah, I dunno why, but after I wrote this, my brain began trying to come up with a scenario for it. So, here's what I picture: The Avengers are split up trying to keep the McGuffin from Kang or whoever the big bad is, in LA. When the team splits off, Happy taps Luis and Katy on the shoulder and asks them to follow him. They sneak through sidestreets until coming to this old, rundown, boarded up warehouse area full of what looks like old breweries. Katy cracks wise, asking if the plan is to huff asbestos. Happy opens two massive, old wooden doors. He turns to a junction box on the wall beside them, he opens it and turns the lever. The lights roar back into operation to reveal that all the buildings on this block are one massive one and it's filled with dusty Mclarens, Lamborghinis, Teslas, Astin Martins, every sports vehicle they could want, not to mention cargo helicopters and fighter jets. Luis and Katy are amazed. Happy, having seen it all way too many times says "Oh yeah, companies used to send Tony new models of their vehicles to see how quickly he could jailbreak them and they'd pay us consultation fees to suggest upgrades. Take your pick, and do it quickly." The camera cuts to outside the building where the bad guys team has tracked them down. The leader does a hand signal telling two of his men to try the door while the others wait, guns ready; Then the door blows open as a McClaren driven by Happy, Suped up H3 Hummer driven by Luis, and fully loaded Lamborghini driven by Katy blow through the doors and drift out of the warehouse.

[@ikazuchioni]

Holy $h!+, that would be awesome!

[@chengkuoklee5734]

@@iainronald4217 Marvel version of Faster and More Furious.

[@BestgirlJordanfish]

I would love the idea of Katy having to drive up a cliff to get herself or another archer a clear shot. I absolutely love this movie, and doubling down on Katy's skillset at the final fight would have been perfect.

[@ThatGuyWithAComment]

Idk man, Marvel fans might not be ready for something as epic as a BMW riding up a dragon, I on the other hand would’ve gone absolutely nuts

[@thevikingbear2343]

Fast and Furious 10 writers taking notes.

[@EternalDensity]

Okay Beamer.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Sounds more realistic for the MCU than in a Fast and Furious movie.

[@philopharynx7910]

Katy not realizing that she's an awesome driver is a character flaw. Because it's not something that her family wants, she doesn't see it's value. Likewise, Archery wouldn't be something her family would be proud of. I can see it working in the sequel. Or ... a San Francisco Team-up! Shang and Katy with Scott and Hope. Even when they split up by gender they still have the funny and straight together.

[@philopharynx7910]

Oh, and an epic battle between Razorfist and Taserface.

[@calvinsidle6509]

Professional driver here: we get no respect in our profession and I really appreciate you taking the time to say that having a job you enjoy is enough. Love your videos all the time but this one hits different :)

[@BadFiend]

"Shaun does the same job, and he can afford his own place." *Shows a clip of Shaun living in a one room apartment/someone's garage.*

[@JoeBloggs42069]

Not to nitpick (unlike Nando’s podcast, ‘Mostly Nitpicking’) but he said Shang Chi could afford his own place; he didn’t say it was a nice place.

[@jeffmartin5419]

In SF, that’s $3000 a month

[@Wintermute01001]

It's San Francisco. Rent's got to be insanely expensive.

[@looneypengu]

@@jeffmartin5419 If I remember correctly, they mention that it is specifically Katie's family's garage. Could be wrong.

[@hcxpl1]

@@looneypengu well, there is a scene that shows him walking to Katie's place so... I don't think that's the case

[@xero1134]

I just want more main characters being just friends with the people they interact with, you don't need to fall in love just because you're close to someone, and that's frustrating because just friends is great

[@ydderynnad]

Found the...umm...well-adjusted person with a healthy and positive outlook on relationships.

[@HeyLauryn]

Yep things. 1. A lot of people, especially gifted kids will relate to her. A lot of us don’t like trying a bee skill because we are worried about being wrong and bad at it. We only push ourselves when we have too. 2. I enjoyed Shang Chi, and despite is relatively long run time it felt a bit off. It felt like it went to fast. And maybe some of the deleted scenes were what was needed.

[@StarryEyed0590]

I totally understand why they wanted it to be a feature film (and I quite enjoyed it) but I felt like the plot would have been better for a miniseries. We could have slowly delved into Shang Chi and Xuliang's backstories, we could have had some real slow-building tension about whether the voice Wenwu was hearing was really the mom or not, and we wouldn't have had to have a ton of mythology thrown at us in the last third of the movie so the big CGI fight scene made sense.

[@mrIlovethe90s1]

The issue with wasted potential or dead end jobs in this film is a cultural one for Cathy. Think of it as dedicated Easter egg for some Asian people. This same job with cultural differences would be applauded for a young white free spirit to show they are tough & independent, whilst having parental financial backing.

[@filmcrit]

Your profile pic 😍

[@speedotorpedo]

I'm not going against your statement but, being a valet is an entry level job with usually low pay that gets subsided by tips, lots of parents from lots of cultures would probably expect/want something better for their children. I wouldn't expect anything but the most supportive of parents to applaud it.

[@samrafkin3699]

"this plotline throws Katy under the bus" I see what you did there.

[@yiklongtay6029]

It could have been cool if the dragon got blinded and Katy was on his neck giving instruction on hard rights and barrel rolls

[@nicksuazo4377]

🤣🤣🤣 🐉

[@Broman1889]

Are we positive that Shang has his own place? The fact that he seems to be living in a garage, and the fact that he eats breakfast with Katy's family every morning, made me assume he was living in their garage...but I don't remember if his living situation was ever specified further than that in the movie so I'm definitely open to being wrong about that assumption.

[@GiubileiFernando]

It's probably explained in a deleted scene.

[@Broman1889]

@@GiubileiFernando truuu

[@archierm]

He had to walk to her place to "pick her up" to the bus. It's probably the same neighborhood.

[@Broman1889]

@@archierm Ahh see I definitely forgot him walking to her place, I hadn't watched the movie since a few days after release... thanks for that info!

[@Panthror]

Shang is definitely living in a garage, the huge door in the background makes that pretty obvious. And even though 'living in a garage' qualifies as having your own place to live, it also means the pay for his job can't be that great.

[@WaterMeLoan64]

“Is this Nitpicky?” (Not unlike his Podcast *Mostly Nitpicking.* ) It had to be said.

[@SuddenJeff]

I'd like to see Katy as Xialing's chauffeur in a Disney+ Ten Rings show.

[@xsanguine8]

That's only if Katy is okay with hanging around the new Ten Rings. I imagine we could get an MCU take on the movie Jumper, if she decides to go into a Magic related career, like a chauffeur for Wong.

[@BooksfromaBiGuy]

I have… a complicated relationship with Awkwafina herself but I adored her character in Crazy Rich Asians and Shang-Chi is by far my favorite role of hers so far. I am actually really excited to see Katy’s role as the Phases continue

[@IcyDiamond]

You think she’ll join The Avengers or some variation of them?

[@user-kp2hb5yr3g]

Shes fantastic in The Farewell, my personal fave.

[@benphillips7289]

I find Awkwafina a little annoying. But her role in this movie changed my opinion on her and I find her involvement in the movie uplifting to the movie.

[@DocAlexandrite]

@@IcyDiamond I like the idea of her and all the other side-comic relief characters (David Dastamalchian?, Howard the Duck, Korg, Ned, etc.) just spinning off into their own thing. Maybe a show or somethin, idk

[@BooksfromaBiGuy]

I still haven’t seen her in The Farewell despite it being one of my most anticipated films from that year 😩😭

[@reubenm.d.5218]

No comic counterpart? We need 'Katy isn't Katy' then.

[@timogul]

Or "Katy isn't _____."

[@colorblue7018]

Kind of unrelated but I needed to put this somewhere ever since I saw the movie. With all the intention placed behind breaking Asian stereotypes in Shang Chi, I think we should acknowledge that Katy is a continuation of that trend. She's an Asian woman who is exceptional at driving.

[@TheEvilCheesecake]

But muh family guy joke

[@johnwerner69]

People think Asian women are bad at driving?

[@freakyfro99]

@@johnwerner69 It's a combination of stereotypes. There's a stereotype that women are bad drivers and also a stereotype that Asians are bad drivers.

[@jerdasaurusrex557]

@@freakyfro99 They cancel each other out.

[@Laserjet-po3rc]

I love how Katy grows to become a masterful archer and hero, while being an audience surrogate at the same time. We react to things the same way she would because like us, she’s so new too it.

[@victor.maskalenka]

Nando this is totally nitpicky however Shameik Moore is the definitive Spiderman.

[@hatredlord]

I was going to say. This is the correct answer.

[@zacho1333]

Ned is on the same tier as happy Luis and Katy

[@StarryEyed0590]

As a comedic relief supporting character, for sure. Not as a driver.

[@spydey2k]

@@StarryEyed0590 he drives the chair

[@BlacksteelForge]

Being a valet parker means Katy gets to apply her driving skills... in the same way an olympic track runner can apply his running skills by working as a waiter at a taco shack, since that requires you to walk around. She is incredibly talented, and could achieve so many things with those talents, but she chooses to stay in a low-paying job that allows her to see cars that she likes and occasionally sneak them out for a joy-ride. Her job is low effort, low reward. It's never said that she should be an office worker, but that she should do something that challenges her, but is rewarding - you know, like everything else she does in the movie.

[@yiklongtay6029]

It would be nice if Katy used her abilities and pursued something more lucrative. She could do NASCAR or we could even see her being Pepper's chauffer.

[@thevikingbear2343]

Real people at excellent at stuff and still don't get to have the well paying job. A Nascar recruiter would never pay attention to the valet. Pepper Potts? maybe, but after she's known her. So far in the story, Pepper would also not pay attention to the valet.

[@xChikyx]

she's happy with it, she doens't need it

[@vicmaverick5740]

Calling It Now: The reason Razorfist's death was cut was so that that character arc could be explored in the sequel.

[@Wyrmshield]

Katy was spectacular! I cannot wait to see what they do with her in later movies, especially if they keep all the driving stuff

[@sir.raphimrevelator8644]

I heard that Marvel Movies have a different team for the final battle scenes. Where the CGI splurge at, things go BOOM BOOM BOOm. Meaning the endings are set in stone. So..the scripts are written and then shot to serve those endings. At the cost of flexibilty of the script. Even if the writers come up with a better story thread midway the shoot...they scratch it because it conflicts with the multi million dollar CGI fight scene at the end of the movie. 😅

[@michaelmccullough1034]

I would have loved it if her contribution to the final battle was something other than archery only because Hawkeye is the archer of the MCU and it just makes her feel redundant.

[@jaysgameplays4261]

The dweller in darknesses neck is huge anyone could hit it with a day of training. Learning archery for a day then hitting a big target isn't that outrageous lol.

[@hollykm]

It was a giant target, but it was far away and moving a lot, and it was also terrifying. When you're nervous or afraid it can be harder to attain accuracy

[@landoncox875]

@@sionetupou437 it was pretty still when she hit it as it was trying to desoul the great protector

[@jacobnestle3805]

I was so prepared for them to overdo the "audience insert" but it worked well, felt natural, and Awkwafina pulled it off.

[@steelguru]

"she is one of the best drivers in the MCU. Take away all the characters with super-senses, like Rocket, Taskmaster, or Daredevil" Wait! Full stop... Isn't the context here "best drivers?" Why is the blind lawyer from Hell's Kitchen in this list? I can't recall seeing Matt behind the wheel.

[@chrisquinn3377]

Icl this guy is chatting waffle trying to make something more out of a movie that has poor writing

[@santi_super_stunts2573]

He’s not really blind tho. But legally he can’t be behind a wheel

[@smhfirebruh5630]

Matt Murdok probably doesn't drive cars, since he is a avid Catholic, he let's Jesus take the wheel

[@f12mnb]

The Katy character was necessary role because the usual Marvel film follows the path of the lead character. Katy serves as the role of the viewer. We follow Tony Stark become Iron Man. We see how Thor becomes more responsible. We see Steve Rogers become Captain America. We do see an arc with Shang-Chi but there is a crucial difference. The story of Shang -Chi has a secret. We have to stay "outside" of Shang Chi until we learn the truth. Could the film be done with Shang Chi obscuring and hiding the reality of his past? But the script would have been more complicated and probably harder to write. Glad that some of the best jokes were not given away in the trailer - the way the film ended by linking back up with the dinner with the friends and then later the karaoke was perfect.

[@thorodinson8185]

Fascinating!! Greta video, amazing to think how such small details really could have helped with the development. I kind of dig the absurd ‘dude, where’s my car!?’ Type of friendship and vibe they have at the beginning of the movie. After being unsure of her, having seen ‘the farewell’ I’m a believer and I appreciate her and the tone of this movie just trying to have fun with it and be quite silly. But you make some great points here. Great video

[@CSPRING101]

I think the idea was the people around her weren’t giving her credit, so she felt like she wasn’t good enough, despite reality.

[@ImitationJesus]

“Why can’t Katy drive something? Like hop on the back of a lion? Or a horse?” Nando, that is a kirin, not a horse.

[@johnquiett1085]

It's been a minute but Hope/Wasp had some mad skills behind the wheel didn't she? Overall though I agree.

[@looneypengu]

Hope was specifically trained in that though. Along with her espionage and fighting skills.

[@aname4681]

Tom holland is so close to being my favorite spiderman, but they keep making him a sidekick to ironman, so it’s gonna have to be toby

[@IcyDiamond]

Tom’s Spider-Man isn’t Iron Man’s sidekick imo

[@aname4681]

@@IcyDiamond I don’t think he will be going forward, but he definitely was for movie 1 and was still in his shadow in 2

[@hollykm]

I don't quite agree, but I totally get how people would feel that way. Hopefully NWH cements Tom as a character free from Iron Man's influence.

[@rainecolubio]

About Katy saying she gives up on something before she gets disappointed. I said the same thing when watching the movie... Then my roommate suggested she must have internalized her parents' disappointment in her. She doesn't see her awesome driving skills as anything that actually matters because it's not something her family cares about... Kinda like how most asian parents are disappointed when their children pursue a not so secure career like art or music.

[@Awoosa]

I’m saying this as a non-American, so maybe Asians over there might have a different POV, but it’s quite common for Asians to still live with their parents/guardians well into adulthood. Reason may vary. Katy’s mom or grandma might’ve been the one demanding her to stay, maybe she did stay to cut cost, or maybe she’s the only person with a steady job and is the one paying rent for her family. She seems to be fatherless, so I’m banking on the latter being the case for her living situation.

[@Martin-yh7vi]

I think it's the same case for a lot of asians. It's just part of our culture to stick as a family. Parents don't really force or even suggest their kids to move out at 18 or when they're 27 or something. I can't speak for every asian culture cause we're very diverse but that's what we do here in the Philippines at least.

[@kevinmiller990]

Loved her character a lot. I've never even heard her speak before this movie. I did however unlock her character in Marvels Future Fight and had her maxed out before I saw the movie XD I didn't know she was a side character yet. But great job pointing out her skill set.

[@Galaar]

Awkwafina's acting was fine and there wasn't anything off with the character dynamics, but because I can't stand awkward humor it made a perfectly decent comic relief/exposition-excuse character absolutely grating whenever she was the focal point of a given scene. Trevor and Morris were a very welcome addition.

[@stonecold7113]

Katie out here breaking stereotypes

[@Jahanam9994]

As an Asian-American, I think the whole "Katey is a valet driver because she's not living up to her potential" concept is an unfortunate part of many of our cultures. The idea is that our relatives traveled across the Pacific (often fleeing political or economic hardship) and ended up working long hours in labor-intensive jobs, just so their children could have a better life, i.e. one without the same hardships they endured. So imagine being a parent going through literal decades of life-threatening struggle, only for your kid to end up no better than you are, and maybe even worse. It's a pretty messed up part of our upbringings as 2nd gen Asian-Americans that gets its context lost in translation when non Asian audiences are given a glimpse at our experiences.

[@mambojambo4870]

That archery part came out of nowhere. Let's pressure Marvel into releasing the Katy Cut, in which she drives the BMW in to the Dweller in Darkness to distract him!

[@michaelmccullough1034]

I really want her and Shang-Chi to remain just friends and her to have a relationship with someone else in the MCU.

[@Flameclaw123]

Yeah that's one deleted scene I'm glad they cut ...Also, they probably won't take her character down this route, but she had some great banter & chemistry with Xialing

[@kingmanic]

The comics ship him with domino (zazie beetz).

[@michaelmccullough1034]

@@kingmanic i kinda want MCU Shang-Chi and Monica Rambeau to get together. I just think they'd be cute.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Luis and Katy would be a great couple….

[@michaelmccullough1034]

@@osmanyousif7849 he seems too old for her imo

[@bludfyre]

Commenting for the algorithm that I didn't notice this during the movie but, now that you mention it, I agree with everything you say.

[@jsibbs08]

I like how you keep calling him Shang only

[@slartimus]

Well, that's his name, right? Shaun-Chi? (insert "Shang-Chi. Shang." "Shaun?" "Shang." plane conversation scene here) 😂

[@Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez]

I got the impression that she was gifted (I know Chinese standards are different) but never found anything to make a real goal. I mean there are jobs that could use her driving skills sure, but saving the world was a focus, granted a temporary one, that could give anyone a focus or a goal if they have any interest. Like mentioned, this doesn't account for Chinese standards of "success", but I never got that she was an underachiever because she doesn't apply herself, but because she hasn't found what interests her and gives her passion.

[@jamiepandaman]

I love this video. It literally made me cry. Hard disagree that Shang and Katy's relationship was "deliberately platonic," though. I got the vibe that they'd get together in a second movie like Tony and Pepper.

[@JoeBloggs42069]

I was hoping they’d just stay platonic, but the way she looked when he had his sort off and then the snuggle at the end and the way they talk with their friends before Wong whisks them away definitely felt more romantic now.

[@greenirez2798]

I liked Katy as a character and appreciated her dope driving and archery skills a lot, they made her so much more than just the comic relief. Hopefully she can put her skills to better use in upcoming appearances. Maybe a impromptu race with Happy Hogan or an archery contest with Kate Bishop lol idk.

[@dannyni4671]

What;s sad is the theatre release cut out ALOT of extra scene which includes Katy and even Razor Fist. Apparrently in one of the scenes cut RF was meant to be "son figure" for Wenwu and why alot of people followed him. Kinda the whole broken family aspect. I'm sure if you googled it you'll find the story you're wanting to see. :)

[@WatermelonNoel]

My definitive spider-man is Josh Keaton from Spectacular Spider-Man, easily. It’s the only one that incorporates almost everything I want in a spider-man.

[@robs.1868]

Underutilized Akwafina. She’s dope AF and worked the character well. I thought she was gonna drive one of the Ten Rings cars and having Guang Bo shoot arrows out the back.

[@TheCommonGentry]

Spider-Noir. That's the definitive Spidie for me.

[@donschamun273]

Shang Chi's place is a garage converted into a studio apartment. He and Katy are college graduates parking cars because they want to stay up late singing karaoke. Katy has skills but not ones her family values so she tends not to value them too.

[@moxmox8058]

That plot line of Katy turning down a job as Pepper Potts’ chauffeur has potential 😂

[@ArtamisBot]

This made me realize what was missing from _Chang-Chi._ all the Marvel films are built on the human moments underneath the epic struggle. Like the shawarma scene, the after party, Hawkeyes safe house. That was all cut out of this movie.

[@noahb2699]

The definitive spider-man is J. Jonah Jameson wearing the spider-man suit in the Spider-man 2 deleted scene.

[@SpiritLife]

Nando, I'm consistently astonished how much your suggestions improve the films you "nitpick."

[@GiubileiFernando]

So I'm not the only one who noticed how Marvel editors leave some of the best stuff on the cutting room floor. Stuff that sometimes fixes issues with the released material.

[@avanishdutta2658]

They do that? Woah. Thank you for noticing but doesn't it affect the pacing? Additional scenes which are not required.

[@GiubileiFernando]

@@avanishdutta2658 Are they really not required? They were written and performed for a reason.

[@rataflechera]

I did noticed the driving skills, as if that was her function, her heroism. But then came the archery arc and I forgot the previous importance of her role.

[@TubezThe1]

If I may, well Shang is in the back fighting three people, Katie jumps into the front seat of a bus, something I'm more than willing to bet she has never driven, takes the wheel and weaves it through traffic after the brake lines have been cut. Then after they lose half the bus, she pulls a sharp left turn against a garbage truck, using the weight of it and the car is in front of them to stop the bus. Her instincts and quick thinking saved dozens of people, and that was just the first 30 minutes.

[@BigBangMike]

Katie should have been driving the car with that old woman shooting arrows while standing out its sun roof. That'd have been badass.

[@ogrejehosephatt37]

I was a little disappointed after the gang congratulated Katy on her great shot, she admits, "that was, like, my twentieth shot!" You're definitely right about having Katy do some heroic driving in that final scene would be much better. Like, if the top of a cliff overlooking the lake had a better vantage point to hit the Dweller, but leading up to it was a narrow cobblestone switch-back path, she could use her experience driving cars in San Francisco to tear up those.

[@colossalsteve]

I would watch Katy get a bigger arc in a later movie. She was awesome.

[@alexanders7569]

Katy's arc, to me, was a supplement to Shang-Chi's. It was about her feeling pressure from her parents. Her skill didn't seem important to her because it wasn't important to her family.

[@thetuggiefresh5599]

Helping the algorithm by jumping in and saying that Tom Holland Spider-Man is my favorite. I love them all for their own strengths but I love Tom’s actual teenager vibe. Fits the character so well to have school and girl problems while not looking like a 30 year old.

[@eastvandb]

I applaud your defence of Katy's job and driving skills!

[@MontgomeryWenis]

Katy was Disney/Pixar's cartoon animal sidekick in live action.

[@bludfyre]

My wife immediately said "that's sisu from Raya and the Last Dragon" as soon as she started talking.

[@brubaker4867]

Awkwafina was basically playing herself

[@boreos3499]

I'm so glad they went with the Platonic Friend decision. I do wish the razorfist pep-talk was in there, though.

[@tajanisc]

Tobey: Best Worldbuilding Andrew: Best acting Tom: Strongest????

[@dexterthielhelm4342]

I’d say Tom is the happy medium

[@jorgec98]

I recently binged Implicitly Pretentious' series of video essays on spider-man. He has some fascinating takes. He gives solid arguments for Andrew being the most faithful adaptation, followed by Tom and last by Tobey. This, when comparing them to Stan Lee's original run, holds up really well

[@amara139]

Thank you very much for this. I really appreciated how you delved into this topic. It shows a necessary aspect that was left on the cutting-room floor. You are awesome.

[@johnsilwanus9774]

Brilliant! Katie and Shang driving that bmw in the beginning is the best valet joy-riding scene since Ferris Bueller. She may have even drifted that car. Hopefully moving forward she can get behind the wheel in Monaco like Tony did.

[@elin111]

Nando: I'll wait KZbin: Video starts buffering.

[@MayedMan86]

Def thought i knew where this commentary was going. Glad i stuck around to be pleasantly surprised.

[@IoanCenturion]

Dear KZbin Algorithm engagement thingy, the definitive Spider-Man is Dream Fortnite Minecraft Pewdiepie. Great video Nando, can't wait to watch it.

[@Panthror]

My favourite Spider-Man is Christopher Daniel Barnes, who voiced the character in the 90's animated series.

[@limhansyin5981]

SHOCKER!!!

[@floomwithaview3632]

Ok Happy’s driving in Iron Man 2 was absolutely insane tho

[@Dac629]

Ok so granted the dweller was staying mostly still at the time, and it’s such a large target that realistically anyone with basic skill should be able to hit it, but the way her shooting it is depicted in this film (and honestly throughout the MCU) is really just a slap in the face to Hawkeye and how hard he must have practiced to do what he does only marginally better than a girl that just picked up a bow.

[@onijester56]

Yes and no. Her shot is relatively straight, and could be quite a bit off of a bullseye. Hawkeye, meanwhile, performs trick-shots that often invoke rebounds and the prediction of human-sized moving targets from an equivalent distance.

[@Derekivery]

In a traditional Chinese family like Katy’s a female living alone would be viewed worse than living with her family. Her family would be upset if she moved out unless it was to get married.

[@leomakesmovies3262]

I got a nebula add immediately after his nebula plug segment

[@NandovMovies]

It's a sign!

[@icarusrising2787]

She did the unthinkable. The unimaginable. The unnatural. She shot the big bad dragon with an arrow.

[@aarcade6676]

The best Shang-chi idea I've ever heard is that the dweller in darkness should have just been a spirit that killed and possessed wenwu when it emerged

[@drewnolde2674]

Nando is a much much better Warby Parker pitchman than I expected.

[@NandovMovies]

Thank you! I genuinely really enjoy wearing sunglasses and I like theirs.

[@n1c704]

I wanted a scene where Razorfist sees his car stolen, Wen-Wu tells him to take his car, he gets excited because the boss is letting him drive his car, but we cut to where it’s a stick shift and Wen-Wu sees him on a security camera and gives an awkward 😬

[@gager5436]

I was a huge Tobey fan growing up but I think Tom is taking up the mantel extremely well

[@gedrictudio]

Happy, Katy and Luis will be the next villains/opponents of the Fast Family

[@keroberusr.9687]

I think you're totally missing the ethnic joke. As an Asian American you cannot just be a valet. If her parents are anything like mine it's ok to enjoy driving but you better aspire to be F1 driver. No joke from a young age we are taught that we carry generations of expectations on our shoulders. Im pretty sure we all need therapy. But I agree with you, Katy is no slouch and she knows what makes her happy. More power to you Katy

[@TonyGiannamore]

Tom Holland. Maybe its because hes my age, but it was the first time I really identified with a Spiderman in a meaningful way. They portrayed mid-late 2010s high school in a very accurate way, and I love his general attitude.

[@missolympiabinewski]

Katy is clearly taking out expensive sports cars for joyrides on the regular so she's probably not "good at her job" which should consist mostly of parking. But still, it is skill-building and credit for not getting caught.

[@anyaklum8757]

They should've put in those deleted scenes and cut the CGI monstrosity battle in half

[@babs3241]

I think the point of the "I can't do anything" is more of Katy herself not taking seriously what she _can_ do. Driving is something she can do well, so it's not really anything that counts. Plus she's hearing constantly about her degree at Berkeley, and how she's not doing an important job with it.

[@wheybig2972]

The definitive Spider-Man is your favorite Spider-Man.

[@xsanguine8]

You know, I just put in a comment somewhere in here that Katy could totally just use her connection to Wong to become a magic chauffeur, just driving insanely fast through ring portals, but then I realized something...Spider-Man doesn't actually have a license right now, and for all we know Tony could have already made the comic's accurate Spider vehicles, so she could probably drive Peter's Spider-Car for those long trips into the suburbs, or up the side of some buildings.

[@make.and.believe]

Katy definitely should have directly rode that Dragon. :) Great vid!

[@bingbangbong5055]

I'm desperately trying to imagine a way for this thumbnail to say "What Katy Did" and have it make sense with the video...

[@QandDRecordings]

I’m like halfway through the video and I feel like you’ve already completely undermined your own argument. If a super talented NASCAR driver announced that they were retiring from racing to pursue a job in valet parking, I don’t think that would be considered a lateral move. It would be considered a complete waste of their potential. And yea, Katy does seem to enjoy her job, but only because she keeps breaking the rules to go on joy rides. And then when she gets the chance to really use her skills later on, she comes alive, which suggests that her job is actually super stifling for her and the only thing holding her back from something more is fear, not ability. Finally, concerning the lucky arrow shot at the end. I’ve seen this come up as a complaint from a lot of people, but to me, the point of that shot is that it’s lucky. It was a very low chance that she would be able to make it… not 0%, but close to. And yet, despite the low odds of success, which would normally have stopped her from trying, she gives it a shot. That’s the point. Even when the odds are next to nil, you’ve still gotta try, because sometimes, just like Katy did in that moment, you might get lucky.