Well Intentioned Corny Rappers

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[@kamaugates1269]

To m Macdonald isn't just corny he straight up Garbage like all his lyrics are bad about people by believing that we all stupid in 90% of his songs

[@therebellion96]

@@kamaugates1269 If Tom Mac is garbage, then what do you call this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmmxoIivmberjsk

[@samvaz4082]

This video deserves a certification for D riding, just let people be

[@Zoooooooooooo]

Aye Hopsin is a grown ass man. Don't call him a kid

[@ihatescammersassholes3872]

Dax is a thief a few friends of Mine's told me that he be stealing from people don't trust him at all start your own petition if you have to and get rid of his music

[@marzdavinci5970]

Nav is like that kid in college everyone know is corny but since he had access to all the drugs and his parents owned shit he got a pass 😂😂😂

[@skerion7956]

@Jelly Punk Its hard to listen to Nav critique anyone's music like he's in no position to be giving anyone tips.

[@UrbanLegend2k11]

🤣🤣🤣

[@LoftyXsWaGX34]

Nav got some tracks tho 🔥, let’s be honest. Really good features as well

[@Rebrandking]

bingo

[@Rieky22]

@@unbotheredbyyou not necessarily

[@d3loused]

Nav saying someone else’ music is corny….. hilarious.

[@skatemo100]

Lol fr

[@tuxxito]

fax

[@Waine888]

I've cringed at certain lyrics from NAV's songs but never to the point to proclaim him as corny. It's just crazy that it came from him but he wasn't wrong lmfao.

[@wiseguy240Winston]

Nav is the Wish version of Drake

[@marzdavinci5970]

I came here to say the same thing 😂😂😂

[@godwarrior3403]

You know what, Dax is right for what he said. He's clearly got the muscles, he's got the money for guns if he wanted to be like that, he's just wise. And he's absolutely right the people telling you to be tough will be the ones saying RIP. If you're just on the internet it may seem corny, but in real life, he could have been killed right there if he said the wrong thing. That's what hip hop and black culture needs. Less posturing and chest puffing and more making it home to your family.

[@saeekeem]

No kizzy smart he made the right decision

[@patitolindo]

fr de-escalating situations is more difficult than escalating

[@jabreelaceto58]

Hip hop needs help not black culture. Ur confusing the war on drugs, systemic racism, and the white labels mark they left on the black community.

[@thatguyjulio3877]

@@jabreelaceto58 hip hop is black culture.. it needs real like cole and kendrick holding the reins. If its real and you spitting thats real.

[@godwarrior3403]

@@jabreelaceto58 Hip hop directly feeds into black culture, and black culture is directly represented by hip hop. You could say I'm wrong to say "black culture" because what I really mean is the hood. When I say "black culture needs this" what I mean is the sons and fathers and brothers in the hood who think it's cool to prove shit to the gang or the gram. The "I think money is king and if you're getting money that's the measure of your value. If you're a killer that's cool. Talking like a fool and disrespecting dead people and loving money and shoes and my come up more than women or anything else." Idk a term to use for that in general, but it extends past hip hop and is more and more black culture in general. How many people care about zulu or African roots? How many care about Islam? Not that I support that, I'm Christian. But how much of black culture is based in anything outside hip hop values these days? The two are almost synonymous. The culture needs to progress past "anything you do is good if it's making money" and thinking get back is socially acceptable. Otherwise black culture will continue to think being on fleek having money and being violent is the meaning of life.

[@keith3946]

Hopsin saying "I gotta call my mom" after hearing Em shout him out in a song is probably the most relatable thing a rapper has ever said.

[@nickrussell2348]

*if your white. Fixed that for you lol cause black rappers have always said things black people relate to

[@Chid098]

"i write whats in my heart, don't give a fuck who's fucking wit it"- Cole. Bottom line, what makes you corny, rapper or not, is seeking validation from the world. Know yourself and own it.

[@henrymendoza8160]

@SOUL SEEKER he didn't say he was. He was using quote from a successful rapper to make a point.

[@ashutoshraina9957]

@SOUL SEEKER cole has also been called corny not by you and me but people but what gives him the cred is he does not give a fuck. Same for eminem he got cred by not giving a fuck

[@richrobin7070]

Nah fam Cole got sauce lmao. All these rappers listed def corny asf. Plenty of lyrical rappers than aint corner for me to be tolerating anyone on this list

[@cripwalker665]

@@ashutoshraina9957 well to be completely fair, j. Cole only is corny every once in a while. What gets you less or more cred is how often you're corny.

[@ravantheoghacker863]

@@cripwalker665 being a self aware corny rapper is cool. However making trash ass music like NAV is a definite No alteast for me.

[@EpicCoolGuy21]

Being trapped in the “corny” box is probably the worst fate for a rapper. It’s impossible to escape. If you have low numbers or music people think is weird, you can just make an album that appeals to more people. Once you’re called corny, anything you do will just be a product of corniness.

[@yourbarber6732]

Yeah only way out is if you make a really good comeback like how Tyler did with Flower Boy after ppl got tired of his old antics. Even then that can still backfire if you release mid albums after like how Logic did after following up No Pressure with trash like BT3.

[@anthonybanks1948]

They just need great management

[@mateogarcia9151]

@@yourbarber6732 flower boy is corny lol. Glad he released Igor to make up for it.

[@hancy3013]

@@mateogarcia9151 nothing about flower boy is corny lmfao

[@vladpintilei6204]

@@mateogarcia9151 flower boy is one of the most beautiful pieces of musical work anyone has put out these last 20 years, watch ya mouf

[@lim3lif3]

NAV calling someone corny is crazy lol. He's the epitome of corny. He's the Canadian French Montana.

[@Debargggiio]

Lie... But I see what you saying

[@AndrewJobes]

i was getting the two mixed up he 100% is

[@sphynxeastwood]

True

[@DepressedAI]

Is Nav corny? Yes. Do I still prefer his music to most of the artists in this video? Yes.

[@keddywang]

cap but i feel where u coming frm

[@Skooby59]

Seeing hopsin stoked bout the Em line always makes me smile

[@WhoCaresAnymoreTho]

Cuz he sold out .

[@jakob3044]

one of my favourite clips, ngl. always fills me with glee

[@genericgoon5179]

Hop being ecstatic about Em dropping his name always makes me smile man. I've been a fan of Hop since highschool, and seeing him celebrate what many of us wanna get to one day, it's something else.

[@gregb9264]

Yea that was awesome to see as someone who downloaded haywire off of datpiff like ten years ago almost Honestly it annoys me people label Hopsin as corny he has a handful of corny songs and the rest of his songs are completely fine tbh Hopsin basically gets the Eminem treatment these days

[@dochallah1721]

@@gregb9264 idk what they even mean by corny cause the dictionary definition of corny so lacking in originality as to be obvious and boring. From dissing Lil' Wayne and Rick Ross to the Ill mind tracks to him rapping about losing his son in a custody battle wtf is unoriginal obvious or boring about any of that. You know what would've been corny him getting rich and making a bunch a songs about how rich he is and how he fucked all of our girlfriends. He stood up to a label pointed out the flaws of rap culture, frat culture, club culture, and stoner culture (all in one song) and killed Rick Ross's rap career. The dude is a fucking fearless lyricist and he hasn't dropped off at all. His shit is better than most rappers gold.

[@gregb9264]

@@dochallah1721 I think dumb peoples perspective is “oh they bring up real topics so it’s corny I don’t want to hear that” like em’s “not afraid” or half of Hopsine music Bro in 2013 / 2014 literally no one talked shit about Hopsin now everyone’s on a fucking bandwagon I been listening to Hopsin before knock madness

[@dochallah1721]

@@gregb9264 people hate on success that's all it is. You can't rip on Hopsin for much so they just call him corny. It's sad that the best Lyricists of the past 10 years are now being called corny. They aren't corny they started a movement and old rap hates it.

[@PhyrexJ]

@@dochallah1721 Did he kill Rick Ross' career? I seriously doubt that. I however agree on all the other points

[@MyFirstYoutubeHandle]

Imagine being so insecure that you call Logic the worst rapper to ever grab the mic. I’m not even a logic fan in general, the man has skills. Crazy statement by a guy that has always made crazy statements, seemingly just to get attention.

[@jwood8769]

There’s context to it, they were listening to his guest verse in French Montana song that came out a few years back and it was on of the worst verse I’ve ever heard.

[@beardedman1692]

No he actually just sucks

[@eminemfan50098]

@@beardedman1692 then you know nothing about hip hop at all if you truly think that.

[@darkskinwhite]

you just took it way too serious bro. they're saying hes trash, but exaggerating it cause it's funny. they're just havin fun, not writing a PSA. & logic "has skills" I *guess* lol but he didnt put them to good use at all, he can have skills and be a terrible rapper.

[@Rick-fe8xn]

@@beardedman1692 dude go listen to some mumble rap and leave! Logic dope af always have been

[@GuapDad4000]

Some people just aren’t inherently cool or that intriguing & That’s ok. The people who are like them will connect to what they make if its genuine. That’s the bottom line and what they should focus on to feed their families .

[@bassweapon]

This is it!

[@420snipsmcgeedatboi8]

@Raye annd you doing the same shit thats being called out in the video lol

[@randumb_teto6965]

@@420snipsmcgeedatboi8 😂

[@TonyBambino]

Not being 'inherently cool" and being corny are 2 completely different things. Every rapper on this list except Cordae [imo] tries too hard to be "cool" and "edgy". Logic biting MF DOOM and dropping a "secret" album under an alias as Doctor Destruction mask and all... the week it was announced DOOM passed away is away is a prime example of what I'm talking about.

[@dayshiagriffin6276]

Hi papi

[@bobbydrza]

Crazy thing is you never heard anyone call the rappers spreading negativity and spreading a fake lifestyle corny. These guys are showing you exactly who they are whether you like them or not and they get labeled corny for it. The game is backwards

[@wavestation999]

They're not spreading negativity, they are just making music people like to listen to. Nowadays, we care more about the music and flow rather than the bars. There is still a place for bars, but its not as important. We just want to enjoy good music

[@authorizeking4027]

@@wavestation999 the music is literally negative no matter if people want to listen to or not

[@TheBamaPrinceable]

That's life in general, not just the game but this generation in particular glamorizes toxicity to the point where almost anybody who bucks that trend strongly enough is labeled negatively and looked down upon. It truly is twisted.

[@specialk864]

@@wavestation999, so, goin by your logic, you’d think “I suck dick for drugs”🔥 as long as it’s rapped usin a dope flow.

[@leeolie3728]

@@wavestation999 Go ask NBAYB and others who wake up every now and then about that

[@kriskenard]

Nav has NO business to call ANYONE corny. Mans wrote "Can't Believe I Wanted You"

[@ghost93700]

Bruh 😹 let’s not argue about rap lyrics in 2022, at this point what haven’t we seen yet

[@godwarrior3403]

Is that the dude who was talking about Dax? I could tell as soon as that dude opened up he thought he was gonna get flamed if he didn't have that opinion. Seemed like haterade to cover insecurities

[@FaceFamous]

@@godwarrior3403 yea he didn't sound sincere with that opinion. He couldn't even get it out right.

[@tiger_lord305]

If you think NAV is trash then that’s fair, but corny like Dax? Nah.

[@kriskenard]

@@tiger_lord305 I didn't call Nav trash. I called him corny. Obviously his level of corny is different from Dax

[@dieselclockwork]

Being coined the term corny is like a death sentence in hip-hop. Super hard to come back from it. I can’t think of any rappers off the top of my head who have come back from it. Can anyone else? As a very small underground rapper, I never wanna come off as fake or disingenuous or corny for the things I say in my songs. I try not to overthink it but also keep in mind that some things will rub people the wrong way. For the most part, I would say most rappers who have been called corny, are good intentioned people who just aren’t the most hip. That’s just my take on it tho

[@youngswaqq1]

Big Sean is the best example I could think of. I've seen people mention Childish Gambino in the start of his career but no one says that now.

[@traplover6357]

Death sentence? More like you get access to a new and larger audience. Look at Logic and Joyner now.

[@F8Lwrld]

i think tyler the creator came back from it

[@K2MNI]

Drake has always been labelled as corny yet he's been arguably the biggest hip hop artist of the past decade. It's not just about being referred to as corny it's about how you handle it and move from it. Jack Harlow's going down a similar path but what him and Drake do is embrace the fact that they're known as corny and don't mind being the butt of the joke which just makes the general public gravitate towards them.

[@wiseguy240Winston]

@@youngswaqq1 Black rappers who don't act like stereotypes get rejected by their own. Kanye is one such exception tho.

[@GM-dg6mj]

the problem with logic is that he cared too much about what people say about his music or himself in general. he took it too personal to the point where it depressed him.

[@DK00027]

It’s kind of hard to ignore hate when you receive it 24/7. At some point it takes a toll. Online comments are cruel because it’s just of bunch of little shits hiding behind a screen

[@ivandeleon1292]

Yup bc his childhood was traumatic for him and didn't feel loved

[@tjaayy6]

Feel that. New album does sound really good tho from the tracks he’s been dropping

[@e_kay_ttv]

Heavy disagree. Wanting validation for something you worked your whole life and having that validation stripped over some gate keepers. His care was exceptional as all hell.

[@samuraijose817]

Man but that needs to be rapped about. I cant change that shit. I care about what they say about me bro! I can't change it! We need rappers to not hide their weaknesses. I needa feel like someone out there is like me. And that they are successful .

[@theshotreview220]

Hiphop is ass backwards. Meanwhile rappers that glorify murder, gang culture and community destruction are celebrated:

[@derpwords2429]

This is a real problem within rap culture... a lot of the times if you're killing people or pushing drugs everyone has your back and is entertained. But if you're a well spoken and good intentioned dude you get crapped on and called corny. It's really sad and says more about the current "culture" of rap than it does any of these dudes on this list.

[@postmalonekilledmydaughter]

Nah Eminem clones like Dax and Hopsin are corny because they copy someone else

[@alphinmesa9945]

Same fans encouraging you to terrorize society will be the first ones to yell R.I.P when you get smoked like some barbecue

[@alphinmesa9945]

@JayStarrV1 Theyre not trying to copy EM...Eminem himself knows that....did you miss the part of the video where Eminem praised Hopsin in one of his songs? You gon praise someone you think is corny? c'mon now smh

[@KI7ES]

Not true at all there are plenty of artists that dont talk about that shit and arent corny. You sound like you’re just out of touch

[@barofsop]

it isn't like the whole culture promotes gang violence and mindless killing/pushing drugs. There are plenty of new school rappers who talk about the hardships they endured and actively discourage that kind of lifestyle. And there are plenty of well spoken and good intentioned rappers today who are looked up at by everyone in the culture. Kendrick, cole, jay, JID, etc. u just being an oldhead smh

[@Mello7B]

The fact they gave the Grammy to Macklemore over Yeezus, GKMC, NWTS, and MCHG in 2014 is absolutely criminal. Thats when award shows started losing credibility

[@מתןרוכמן-ג6ק]

What is mchg

[@thatsmystizzledizzle]

magna carta holy grail by jay z

[@senioryrsht]

Gkmc was finna win

[@Forgiveiolord]

@@מתןרוכמן-ג6ק hip hop madness clone kzbin.info/www/bejne/gojFYnRtl9qmkLM

[@theedon501]

Lol they lost their credibility waaaaaaaaaaay before that

[@itshigh-keybrandon8718]

On the flip side, I think Tory was corny for chasing down Dax in the first place. You chased a man down for doing a diss track on you and by doing so participated in the challenge YOU initiated? Like what? I couldn't vibe with Tory after that.

[@لمعان-ض9ع]

no that shit was beyond hilarious

[@helarpanibour8107]

From what I remember, and I could be wrong, but apparently when Dax dropped it, Tory hit him up and told him to take it down because he was dealing with personal issues. Dax says no, and, we got what we saw on here🤷🏽‍♂️

[@AJRAOfficial]

@@helarpanibour8107 apparently he never said anything to dax tho dax was online saying if tory told him to take it down he would've

[@georgeojoje4045]

@@لمعان-ض9ع if he died it wouldn't be funny now would it? 💀

[@لمعان-ض9ع]

@@georgeojoje4045 It would be even more hilarious

[@vandalsavage2074]

For my own mental health, I'd rather be considered corny and respect myself and my art then be a walking stereotype.

[@TerryBartsoff-y2v]

Absolutely

[@JGarcia-yr9fx]

you can be a positive role model without being corny; i.e black thought, mos def, jay z, j cole, k dot, jid etc.

[@johnLennon255]

Breh you're wearing a fedora. You are the epitome of corny

[@yomuin5389]

People who truly are just themselves also don't care if they're perceived as a walking stereotype. The illusion we have that we're unique is what drives the desire to stand out in the first place.

[@parkertaylor7108]

The theme here that I see is that if you’re genuine you’re corny. Most of these dudes labeled corny just like doing themselves and making the music they wanna make, and when they try to be inspirational they get flames for it, all because they’re not straight industry. Shit is sad. Like Logic for example, dude went from rapping just straight bars for mixtapes to making a cool, creative album storyline, and people start calling him corny for that and other things such as him liking rubix cubes and just genuinely being a fun guy.

[@linas2969]

I like Logic and all but people only started calling him corny after his 2017 album released. Almost every song was centered around the fact that he's biracial, mixed in with all of the "preachy" messages and subtle decline in lyricism. That was when the Logic memes began. According to some fans, his writing got more lazy over the years and pales in comparison to his older music, especially with constant cringy bars like "did you know I'm mixed like Obama" and others💀 Some people also didn't appreciate how he was flexing the money he made off of his 1-800 song for obvious reasons. I don't necessarily agree with those people but I can see where they are coming from

[@punchdrunkE]

@@linas2969 did you know i’m mixed like obama😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@linas2969]

@@punchdrunkE Dead😂

[@concil100]

no most dudes here are just preachy people dont like being preached too especially young people you know the people that decide whats cool and whats not

[@punchdrunkE]

@@concil100 spot on ngl especially cordae

[@drakev.]

Calling Cordae a “corny rapper” should be a crime

[@jkesss]

Amen

[@kiwipushy]

Ong

[@JohnDoe-or1pi]

Cordae is the definition of corny

[@danielkelly3065]

Maybe cheesy is a better fit

[@yehhhhhh234]

Ngl bruh fax

[@Fapfappa]

Too bad you didn't touch up on Tom Macdonald, because he's 0% well-intentioned & 100% corny lmao

[@VENGEFULHEXX]

Lmaoooo. I was like "Where the hell is the well intentioned-ness with him?" he literally got songs about people hating him for being corny so he's well aware he's corny and encourages it. 😂

[@cohme2991]

For reals Tom is hella corny like he just makes the same song with different beat over and over again.

[@wade2033]

Bruh 😂 Tom is hella corny

[@peters10456170]

Yeah and i dislike how he speak about circumstances he couldn't possibly understand... Just for clot

[@Datt_Ratt]

Hes just racist

[@hoomakoa]

Nah Hopsin’s reaction to being shouted out on Em’s album is wholesome af

[@deleayoola]

I really will never understand the hate logic gets ever. I felt his soul die with each album as he tried his best to show the world his art. Stepping out the limelight was a good move for him. What you love should kill you but not like this... Not like this.

[@teeceedee]

Logic? Its youuuuu?

[@gxp958]

@@teeceedee Soulja boy tell em?

[@ItzMeLourenco]

Couldn't have said it any better

[@teeceedee]

@@gxp958 ohhh i got it like 3 days laterr yeah youuu hahahha soulja oy tell em *8)

[@gxp958]

@@teeceedee 😂

[@recoveringdaydreamer]

Putting Tom McDonald in the same picture with Logic is just the absolute next level of disrespect. Also, how exactly is whiteboy over here “well intentioned”? Tf?

[@colekamerick]

100%

[@frandavis1990]

Tom is fake woke his music is as surface level as can be

[@frandavis1990]

Also tetsuo and youth is a hip hop classic. You have good taste my g

[@obamaisdaddy6595]

Logic mid lmao

[@nikhilpranav6915]

If Tom believes what he says, I have no respect. If he doesn't... wow, that's smart.

[@zsaturnzs7870]

I feel like Logic never deserved the hate he got, bro just be chilling making music, yes he’s made some bad songs and got criticisms, but a lot people just joined the bandwagon on hating on him and never gave him the time, just watch an interview, he a chill dude

[@weeb_french_turkish_hater]

fr its just a trends to hate him he mad talented tho

[@Donniedarkoooo]

​@aj3074coadm ain't even that bad imo

[@bioniccorndog]

I think what hip hop fans ultimately find corny is being told what to think or feel. When you break that 4th wall and stop telling a story and start talking directly to the audience, that's where you lose people. There's no lesson you can teach everyone. And even if you could - the vast majority doesn't want to listen to that. Even in Macklemore's case - you can text Kendrick and tell him that he got robbed, but when you turn around and tell me what you told him because you think I should care that you care... Nah.

[@John-ku5hp]

I agree. No one wants to be preached at.

[@sevenempestfxntoolsoad3183]

My sentiments exactly. these guys dont really seem to mean well while being awfully unconvincing. It just seems they wanna be revered and think preachy nonsense would work.

[@0hMyGandhi]

It's interesting how Dax, Logic, Cordae, and Hopsin all cite Eminem as their favorite rapper, and how Eminem is considered "corny" by the Gen Z crowd. It just doesn't matter to me. 50 Cent was considered "corny" when he came out, and Tech N9ne fights that label every day. Royce da 5'9 and a huge swath of D12 are seen in much the same way. The irony? All of those people (yet again) cite Eminem as their favorite or were put on by him, and I do not think that is a coincidence. I believe that when rappers actually rap, and rap well; the goalposts are moved. Proof? Drake. Drake can pound his chest and show off overexaggerated male bravado in his music and videos even though he once played a wheelchair-bound nerd in a Canadian kid's tv show. And guess what? no one bats an eye. Don't get me wrong, I like Drake, but the hypocrisy is earth-shattering. Regardless, These "corny" rappers can rap their asses off and their technical ability is off the charts. Chino XL, RA The Rugged Man, and even Immortal Technique have all fought that label. It's a stupid blanket term meant to gatekeep what many consider "intellectual rap". But in the effort to shun actual _writing_ ability and "thought rap", it only makes those who _don't_ fall under the category more susceptible to scrutiny. Last point: remember, everything is cyclical. backpack rap along with "emo" rap was heavily discouraged until it wasn't. Now? it's "cool" to rap about being sad and depressed. Jedi Mind Tricks and Immortal Technique were chastised for chasing more politically-themed content, and now? it's fine. Just listen to what you want to listen to, and before you know it, it'll be "cool" again.

[@JaMore]

50 cent corny? Since when?

[@BodgyHeats666]

@@JaMore lol exactly 50 cent wasn't corny when he first came out if anything most people wanted to be like him

[@SenseiWolfe]

Finally someone with intelligence in this comment thread 👏👏💯💯💯💯

[@BrendoDynomite]

Well said. I agree as when rapping as a teen I had more thought provoking religious and political themes in my raps and felt most couldn't comprehend. I was above "street" rapping and knew one day my rap style would be cool

[@allelements]

💯💯💯💯

[@TYInTheBuilding]

I think “corny” is such a point of view. How is show casing drugs, pulling dumb internet gimmicks for attention, embracing the street life, and blowing your only advance money on materialistic things and going broke not considered corny but artists who are just being themselves, making smart decisions, giving you there self expression and building a long sustainable life & career considered corny. Most of y’all got it backwards.

[@inevitablesound7465]

Clout rappers are corny too, but they are also more entertaining

[@eminemfan50098]

@@inevitablesound7465 Fuck. No. If you find that shit entertaining it says a lot about how easy you are to please.

[@OfficialTigerino]

Dax fan

[@90s-h7l]

@@eminemfan50098 He said entertaining, not smart or respectable in any way. Laugh a little, you non emotion punk.

[@MusicisLife1121]

This lyric sums it up perfectly: “But you need to get off the internet. You need to get you a life. Why you waste time just to comment on shit Especially shit you don’t like Don’t like it, Don’t listen But don’t tell me ‘bout your fav. rapper rippin’ some shit he didn’t write”

[@Cesxr._]

Dax is super creative and has a good work ethic and skill, enough to where I enjoy seeing what he's up to from time to time but generally I am not drawn enough to want to consistently dive more into his work and hear more. It sucks that many rappers get seen as corny or left out of general praise of rap because their style is different, unusual, or the fact that they are just good earnest people who stick to themselves and don't allign with negativity. I'm just glad that many of these artists do have their fan base that cares for them and allows them to eat

[@redxlillard7880]

Dax is awful tf u mean

[@psylock.mp3]

@@redxlillard7880 exactly Dax is wack and unlikeable

[@paulleacock269]

Dax be corny asf

[@spoiledshorts69]

i agree 100%

[@spoiledshorts69]

wouldn’t even call myself a fan but i can’t help but root for the guy

[@NephariusAMG]

Dax begging eminem to call him in multiple videos looked desperate as hell. THAT was corny

[@vidscollegelog5959]

Being corny really doesn't make you a bad artist. For hip hop standard, it is bad. But there are people out there who does enjoy corny stuff, they attract a different audience rather than just hip hop audience. And i really respect the people who are willing to stick with that vision despite being universally disliked by the hip hop community and still managing to live their lives to the fullest. I like all sorts of hip hop songs, and being corny is part of the charm within some of my favorite names. It's really fascinating to look beyond a "badly" written lyrics and unravel what they truly mean by it.

[@PDiddlers2ndcousenPwiddy]

Fr bro, hoisin definitely corny but his songs can be very powerful, I’ll listen to gang banging music then put him on talm bout drug addiction. People needs to realize it just music

[@UnKnownTon3]

@@PDiddlers2ndcousenPwiddy I started to agree but that last part I couldn’t…. It’s not just music bro, music can have a huge impact on people’s lives by making them wanna do things they prolly wouldn’t do, it’s not just lyrics that can be negative it’s the frequency the song is giving off as well that can change the way you think drastically even if you listen to J Cole or Kendrick Lamar they may speak some elevated shit but the frequency isn’t good it’s a lot that comes with listening to music not just hearing words an a few high hats you gotta feel it too. It’ll change you for the good or for the bad

[@James_follows_Christ]

Gives you something to think about. An actual message

[@James_follows_Christ]

@@PDiddlers2ndcousenPwiddyno bro words are powerful bro. What we speak holds weight. There are people are still are scarred from things that were said to them at the age of 7 and they’re in their 50’s and 60’s. Words mean something. They’re spiritual, the tongue we have to speak life (encouragement and uplifting) or death (any type of bad language) and we’re living breathing souls created in the LORD’S image. We see a physical world,but the real world is spiritual. That’s It’s important that we’re careful what we watch and listen to because it affects our souls.

[@vault1021]

As soon as I heard Nav call another man ‘Corny’ I IMMEDIATELY scrolled into the comments section to see how many others pointed out the irony 😭😭😭

[@riotron1026]

This concept of “corny” artists in Rap says a ton about the culture in general. From toxic masculinity, to young people being fucking stupid, to young people tending to live impulsively, rejecting authority and throwing caution to the wind, and a whole host of other issues. It’s almost like the culture rejects positivity and feeds off of negative and sinful qualities like wrath, avarice, lust, ect.

[@Ki-gz8ve]

Corny artists just means they make/made comically bad music...it's not very deep or culture-specific.

[@Gobackto4chan]

“Young people being stupid,” definitely wrong there, these kids are probably gonna be more aware than most of us at the same age. Also it’s not just impulsivity, you’d have to listen to the music to piece that together though.

[@Linkophere]

@@Ki-gz8ve you're too surface level. Think harder

[@Ki-gz8ve]

@@Linkophere oh my god pls shut up with the condescension lmaooo if u wanna think the "young rap culture" is inherently sinful or ignorant or some other weird generalizing stuff like that then b my guest

[@jaysap.]

@@Gobackto4chan gen z is the biggest failure in human history no cap

[@david_gress]

How tf you gon say Tom McDonald is "well intentioned"💀💀💀💀

[@knado8135]

Because he makes music with a message, just like all the other rappers on this list. Shut up liberal.

[@LLGameShows]

When did he say that

[@angelob2383]

@@LLGameShows the title

[@LLGameShows]

@@angelob2383 oh you meant the thumbnail. It's probably just for clickbait

[@MysticalArcane]

is he not?

[@geekmac9349]

Was gonna give Dax the benefit of the doubt when I heard people calling him corny, then I heard his single "Propaganda" and it's literally the corniest shit that's ever graced my ears LOL

[@Natak222]

😂😂 atleast you tried

[@aj.omanga]

🤣

[@tapset]

Cornier than saying literally?

[@eminemfan50098]

@@tapset cornier then using a word thats been used for decades? No ones corny for, LITERALLY just using a word lol

[@tonimichelle8401]

I was gonna try out the song based on this comment but "feat. Tom MacDonald" told me enough.

[@jacklightyear5869]

I always thought Tory took the L in that Dax situation cuz he literally put out a challenge that he could take on any rapper and then when Dax did Tory got butthurt and ran up on the dude.

[@peters10456170]

Facts and every person that accepted the challenge was droppin trash... Dax diss was the best

[@timlett99]

Exactly! And for some reason its widely known that Tory won because... he ran up on Dax? THAT is corny lmao

[@Rocketshoes]

@@timlett99 didn’t bro have a gun on him

[@timlett99]

@@Rocketshoes Tory did, Dax didn't as far as I know

[@MG-gn6ni]

Yeah exactly I don’t care for Dax but surely it’s corny to put out a diss challenge then get heated when someone takes you up on it. Extremely whack behaviour

[@TottoHolm]

You can call Hop corny all you like, because of a few songs when he was young, but dude can rap with anybody in the game currently. Dude's a monster lyrically.

[@codycrawford7842]

Who cares if someone calls you "corny", it is a purely subjective judgement.

[@ratmanthewhychannel5360]

It's not if he can match syllables together it's if he sounds good

[@supermarx]

Hopsin's problem is that he's preachy and doesn't have enough life experience to get away with it.

[@ApolloWrayRead]

Bro he sucks get some sense

[@glyrekal]

Real shit

[@haroldstricklin7805]

I think the big thing about Macklemore’s situation goes deeper. He was going to be hated no matter what when he beat Kendrick. And he definitely felt pressured knowing he was going to get that hate, so he made the dumb call to post the text. It’s unfortunate because he has some really incredible songs

[@JGandthe2kk]

He actually loves the music too bad

[@thebeatgoesround9265]

The irony of Nav calling anyone trash

[@just.branden4997]

All the “corny” rappers live and prosper. While the “real” rappers get killed and go to jail.

[@REALTRUEJOURNEY]

Damn who hurt you lol

[@just.branden4997]

@@REALTRUEJOURNEY no one. We just put corny on the wrong shit, then celebrate the goofy shit.

[@MelvinArthurMurray]

Yeah I agree these “corny rappers” are low key smart asf niggas who say corny you can tell bitter asf in life I’ve listened to too much Hip Hop in my life to tell you Underground is usually slept on diue to intellect shit depressing asf 💯💯

[@MelvinArthurMurray]

It seems like the realest get hated now a days it’s a shame

[@memenation5105]

@@MelvinArthurMurray For real fam , it's a damn shame, these guys are trying to change the image of hip hop for the greater good, yet guys like NAV pick them apart out of jealousy.

[@FerociousPaul]

I don't think Tom McDonald is well intentioned. He may have at one point, but now he banks on trolling people and appealing to the victim complex of dudes who spend too much time on the internet.

[@beardedman1692]

Perfectly said, he's the white boy's white knight.

[@PaintedHoundie]

He was never well intentioned.

[@DepressedAI]

@@PaintedHoundie man doesn't have a well intentioned bone in his body.

[@Meatman2042]

Man does spit straight facts in most of his songs tho even if you disagree w them

[@sillynelson1]

I actually agree with what he’s talking about, I just don’t like his music.

[@MLB_CoercedFreeman5OutOfATL]

Dax is a grown ass, mature man for what he said in his part during the interview where he was confronted or people tried to fight him. He has risen above that life and "code" in which the answer or solution to minor problems such as a diss or talking shit - sometimes just for entertainment...like eminem said, sometimes he just uses the name or org name that happened to rhyme lmao. Dude has the adult, fatherly, holy mentality that he's not about to fight and get smashed up, kidnapped, disabled, arrested, or end up dead over some stuff he said. If someone hears someone talk about them and it gets to them so badly that they feel the need to resort to violence as the only way to settle that....that is a MENTALLY WEAK af individual. But gang culture has taught us that's how we handle business. You say some words, I have you killed or at least roughed up. That comes from the mentally weak who don't have the security in their own person and own character to say "Wtf he talking about, that aint me at all so I don't give af what he says - so I'm gonna brush that shit off like it's nothing, bc it's not, and keep it moving". I'm not going to end up with a 20 year sentence because I got insulted one time. Gang culture is a mother fu**ing joke. All of their "rules" and "traditions" just end up getting people they say they run with incarcerated or killed. Who thinks that's smart?! Who?? And how?? The clout? Fuck the clout. Charleston White is probably making the best effort but somehow it needs to be ingrained in these younger generations that the old ways of gang violence, stealing, retaliation, and all that other stuff that gives you street cred is really just for fools. That the gang culture these people so proud of is actually just a big brainwashing campaign by the people at the top, BLACK WHITE HISPANIC JEWISH it doesn't matter - whoever at the top...it's just a brainwashing tool to keep them perpetuating that circle of taking their perfectly good opportunity at life and deciding to make the worst of it or throw it away. Someone needs to get to these people. And these rappers should start getting cut by their record labels for rapping about that life. They can say it in their free time off the record if they want, and to as many people as they want, because I'm all for freedom of speech. But these record labels and these radios should stop giving the rappers this huge platform to glorify street life. Street life, just like drug addict life, leads to one of three places....Jail, Dead, or Broke so bad you wish you were.

[@joshm6854]

Tory Lanez is so tough he shoots guns at women.

[@bobdigi500]

When Rick Ross got to keep his career I realised authenticity in HipHop was well and truly gone.

[@percybouanga]

* Officer Ricky

[@tobiisiba1641]

So he shouldn't be respected because he had a job?

[@bobdigi500]

@@tobiisiba1641 no because he stole someone's identity and pretends to be a gangsta

[@reneoliver4080]

Nah rozay forever

[@user-xb4fm5rx8h]

It was never there to begin with, there’s only a few authentic rappers in the industry. I’m speaking for all eras too, including the ‘90s.

[@GRH_Roadhouse]

The only corny rapper in the thumbnail is the cringe merchant him self Tom Mcdonald Roadhouse

[@moko9hoko]

Dax, hopsin, macklemore and logic are all just as corny. Tom Mcdonald is literally just white hopsin

[@Dodgerz_McFly]

@@moko9hoko Logic wasn't always corny but after that third album yh imo

[@cullenavent6585]

@@Dodgerz_McFly i think No Pressure is his best album

[@Forgiveiolord]

@@moko9hoko hip hop madness clone kzbin.info/www/bejne/gojFYnRtl9qmkLM

[@moko9hoko]

@@Dodgerz_McFly yeah he definitely started out good when he was coming up with dizzy wright

[@Ironcydeus]

The problem I've noticed with Dax, is a lot of his shit comes off very crybaby. How about instead of complaining and pandering the the "Joker" crowds, make some tracks that slap and shows some authenticity

[@NaptownClassic]

What would authenticity be in this context?

[@wordlifejohn1122]

Wait didn't Em also address those similar issues?, They also called Em corny 🤣

[@KappaJones]

@@wordlifejohn1122 There's always exceptions to the "rule" In Em's case rap fans throwing him in the corny bin gets cancelled out by a lot of his peers holding his skills in high regard

[@dominicknoll7398]

@@wordlifejohn1122 you’re not suggesting that Dax is a top tier rapper are you? He’s more spiritual miracle than logic 😂

[@kylespevak6781]

People are like, "bro you ain't sayin shit in your music, you corny," then they say shit and it's, "shut up crybaby, make music that slaps". Eminem's Kamikaze album mentions this a lot

[@milo2879]

this is such a good video Ive been waiting for someome to formulate this so well in a vid

[@dfredankey]

Lmaooooo seeing Dax on the cover said it all lmaoooo

[@cullenavent6585]

idk how people like Cordae or Chance are getting compared to Dax and Tom McDonald 💀💀

[@inevitablesound7465]

@@cullenavent6585 chance gets called corny exclusively for the big day. Cordae ain’t really corny though

[@cullenavent6585]

@@inevitablesound7465 ik that’s what i’m saying

[@wargjdenneiy1235]

@@inevitablesound7465 But Cordae is generic tho. His last album didn’t push the boundaries of conscious rap/pop-rap as much as it could have.

[@inevitablesound7465]

@@wargjdenneiy1235 I agree, but a mid album doesn’t make you corny

[@sirraldnus8590]

In the words of eminem "Be proud of who you are even if it sounds corny,don't let no one tell you you ain't beautiful" Besides most of y'all definition of corny is dumb like how is being positive corny??

[@MelvinArthurMurray]

Exactly there needs to be more peace and love in hip hop.

[@shearsbilly5240]

It’s not about positive rap it’s about corny niggas rappin

[@imanigordon6803]

@@MelvinArthurMurray There is a place for it Kota the Friend is positive and cool. Being Corny and positive is the problem.

[@tricktrapper]

You can be positive and not corny,, the difference is creativity. If you approach your definition of positivity at an original angle then people will respect it but if your sentiments have already been echoed then won't nobody care. Logic saying "spread peace love and positivity" is corny AF bc it's unoriginal. Outkast spitting "you need to get up get out and get something, don't waste all your time tryna get high" still hits to this day

[@Hains22]

Logic is often called corny. But his discography is incredible. I wish he would block the criticism noise.

[@VivoZzz]

Too much saying he is bi racial

[@samanderson6194]

Hes vingear

[@SlickSkuddy]

I really wish he didn’t claim to be a black man because he is so obviously not. Even if he was and had the same swag he’d still be corny. I do feel bad that he was bullied so much he had to quit music tho. I’d hate to see anyone’s dream die.

[@Lelende]

I'd call him basic, sorta surface-level, maybe even uninspired. But no corny.

[@vega9912]

Logic is so trash 🤣😂 he like: I did it, I hit, I bit, I fit it, I knit it, I fix, oh hell yeah, I rid it, awww man Logic bars are so 💩💩💩💩

[@Kjk172]

Wasn't a fan of Dax until I heard his interview. Very mature in an industry that's dominated by a bunch of melons

[@Hendrixxx9427]

Lmao we all have that one friend that listens to nothing but corny rappers and swears they’re the best ever

[@SuperNESMario64]

I use to be like that, thank God I've grown from that phase and expanded my Playlist

[@illahboii225]

Frfr we all do Ayy they all got they own thing but wassup Gang 💫🔥What kind of music you like ? , you ever heard of IllahBoii?

[@user-pv7vc9kp9k]

@@illahboii225 You sound like a highschool teacher

[@illahboii225]

@@user-pv7vc9kp9k I am a teacher

[@danzsaylessdomore]

Like Fr Can Someone Explain What “Corny” Means ? Is It Cause Artist Just Like To Be Them Self Or ? Do They Have To Talk About Money, Bitches, Cars ? What Is It That You Call Individual Corny ? Someone Explain It Cause This Is Fkkkd Ngl !

[@boiyoumadedatbeat2277]

NAV has the nerve to say shit like that lmao 🤣🤣🤣

[@TTo-pr2vc]

That Wyboy with face tattoos was attached to every KZbin ad a year ago

[@FaceFamous]

Tom Macdonald

[@lonelyandstonely]

Never listening to hopsin but him sayin “I gotta call my mom” made him one of the rappers I have to respect

[@coleh591]

I actually really respect dax alot he's skilled and I've seen him live and drank with him for the night was an awesome night he's just a good genuine guy

[@User-uk6rk]

Dax, Hopsin and Logic are more lyrically skilled than all the Migos combined. If that is what corny is... I'm all for it. F**k Mumble rap

[@MelvinArthurMurray]

Facts!!!!

[@seige8621]

This was the comment I was looking for. These guys really have some dumb takes. Old hip hop was majorly about gang violence, killings, guns, women. Even till date that's the projectile its still taking. The funny thing is I grew up in the 90's and I enjoyed these raps but as I got older, having those kinds of music isn't good for the soul, hopsin, dax and logic have so many good songs i can listen to that talks about real life and not what these guys refer to as hip-hop aka hood violence. You'll rarely see these rappers live in the hood when they make it but keep encouraging this bad behavior in music and they're called hip-hop while the ones who rap about actual things in life are called corny. Lol

[@novanebula8004]

Bro please just don't

[@WEd858]

It’s about time someone said this! If expressing yourself through music is considered “corny” then I’m all for it.

[@imscre4m368]

Lmao ok boomer

[@bigbillmusic]

I can't imagine being mad bc someone called me corny. Most of these artists have huge fanbases because they are being themselves. Most of the mainstream music is corny to me. Talking about crashing out, and popping pills and killing someone. Dudes be lame If they don't wanna hear it...skip it. Simple

[@galaxyprojectiontechnologi3142]

Based

[@REALADVICE4U]

Corny= say what you feel. Real= say fake stuff and glorify drugs etc. 👍🏼

[@Officialheatrecords]

Right

[@timmymullen6129]

Corny and real are not opposites.

[@MA-go7ee]

Notice how it is almost exclusively non street rappers that are classified as corny? I don't listen to any of the rappers in the video but i can almost guarrantee they're the type of rappers that steet niccas will never listen to... And street niccas are the demographic that most often labels anything they don't like corny. For almost every example you give in this video, i can give examples of Kodak, YoungBoy, Migos etc being corny but they'll never be called that, because they're street. I really think it is that simple. Street niccas call non steet shit corny. It really isn;t about how these rappers act - because almost all rappers are embarrassing asf lol. Non street rappers are just easy targets and no one thinks theyll do anything. BTW for those who do not remember Drake was called corny for half his career until a new generation who grew up listening to him came of age. Kanye was called corny when he was doing backpack shit. Eminem was called corny after he got off drugs. The only difference is that Drake, Kanye and Em have been so massive that the opinions of street niccas became irrelevant to their legacies. (Ps - Not to say backpack fans aren;t close minded themselves. they real quick to call someting not real rap)

[@ReD_738]

Very solid opinion 👍

[@MrShedder13]

Ultimately this is what is boils down to but no body either knows or wants to acknowledge it. It's unfair to those rappers and this isn't the only type of exclusion or backlash they face from contemporaries and fans and I don't fwu any argument otherwise.

[@xzavierbeamon9195]

Facts 💯

[@etercious]

W response

[@josephschmizzo1595]

Both sides are corny af...lol

[@w.h.b2927]

If Dax, Hopsin, Cordae and Logic are considered "Crony" Then well, I'm better off listening to my corny music. 💯

[@siksully6297]

💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@Shao.lander]

Fr this is a bot ass channel it’s pathetic that this guy called Dax AND HOP corny. Gtfo these are rappers whose lyrics teach you things and literally save lives. Hop’s music is more relevant now than ever especially Raw and Knock Madness but these same people calling Hop and Dax trash think Durk and Lil Baby are the best in the game. They addicted to negativity

[@ItsVes999]

At least you know its corny ash lol

[@evanb1315]

Same bruh it’s like all lyrical Rappers are considered corny like these people gotta stfu and go listen to their mumble rap

[@w.h.b2927]

@@evanb1315 true brah..

[@samuraiblu3316]

I can never see Hopsin as corny. His songs go hard and he kinda just happy to be there. You can't fault him for that.

[@vipr0digy]

Fr

[@rajder656]

"look at this dude, he happy his idol mentioned him on a big song. How corny is that"

[@samuraiblu3316]

@@rajder656 “Ewww you have an idol?! Get away from me”

[@beats8076]

Let me guess your WHITE

[@beats8076]

@@rajder656 let me guess your whit

[@cindymcdonald6305]

These "corny rappers" are what hip hop needs, not these stupid fake rappers that pretend they have everything.

[@michaelcox3353]

Dawg, as long as you got your core fan base and are living off your dream that's all that matters. The world tries to make this shit seem like there is certain standards and boundaries in music. And if anything every corny rapper on this list has stuck to the culture more than most the people criticizing them. Like there is people that like that kind of music. They wouldn't have gotten that far if people just didn't listen to them.

[@nonyabusiness2032]

"Gotta get right for shawty, no more getting high; drinking 40s" - DMX being positive.

[@antoniomontana2034]

Out of everyone Nav calling others corny? That brown penguin need a new hairstyle

[@kieraholmes3828]

I was like "he anit even invited to the cookout!"

[@sparrowsnatural]

nav cannot be taken seriously roasting anyone with his haircut

[@porgianohome7622]

Logic doesn't deserve the hate, and it's so sad when rappers try to bring awareness of an issue through their music and get called corny as a reward. Few rappers like Tupac, Kendrick and Em have avoided this but mainly because they would end the person calling them out's carreer.

[@nycholasrawls5769]

The only two problems I have with him are one the him saying he's half black with his dad being black with no proof and two with the lazy/repetitive lyrics post The Incredible True Story

[@PeterGriffin11]

@@nycholasrawls5769 Why does he have to prove his Dad is Black?

[@kaytherapson]

@@PeterGriffin11 idk...coz he look white as milk, maybe👨‍🦯🤷‍♂️

[@Rick-fe8xn]

Logic is dope as fuck!! I guess since he don't mumble and that shit them asking him what is he doing for the blm movement??? Really some bs dafuq outta here, hell almost none do anything but they get a pass? People that come at these particular rappers are lame as shit though. Nobody wants to hear all that drill, murder, drug shit all day ya know. Wtf has happened to hiphop

[@Rick-fe8xn]

@@PeterGriffin11 who dafuq are you?? Why does he have to prove to you he's a mixed kid?? People like you are exactly the problem and destroying hiphop and hating on good artists or creating bs issues

[@retnuh7097]

Cordae isn't really corny. Logic, chance and Hopsin just get hated on but they can actually spit and make fire music

[@JET815]

That's what I'm saying cordae is not corny. And even if that's case, no where as Corny as logic, dax etc.

[@cheddaman4411]

logic sucks chance is a quality artist

[@retnuh7097]

@@cheddaman4411 okay chrisy webby lookin goof go get some keeps in yo life "cheddaman"

[@wiseguy240Winston]

I like logic and cordae, Hopsin is alright now too but he kinda deserved the hate for dissing other larger rappers when he started

[@RamiroEloy1997]

Sure they can spit and their music sounds like it's supposed to be fire but there's no heat behind it. Can't really explain it

[@Caskett234]

Hospin, cordae, logic, and dax aren't corny rappers; they each have a unique perspective that they bring game in which it's appalling how you would define them as corny hip-hop artists.

[@jhdagreat1673]

That's what I'm saying. They're all just different but you know how that goes. If you have your own style then your considered corny, boring, or just trash but if you have millions of followers and chains and alot of women and money then your the best artist of all time. We just live in a backwards world man anything g that's good is bad and anything that's bad is considered good. I mean look at tik tok for an example.

[@illahboii225]

Right Ayy they all got they own thing but wassup Gang 💫🔥What kind of music you like ? , you ever heard of IllahBoii?

[@A.R.DaVision]

And Chance?

[@WEd858]

Exactly! Dax, Cordae, Logic all have unique styles and different perspectives on issues, so calling them “corny” just sounds like hate.

[@abhirupan7630]

Dax 😂😂😂😂

[@yungillegiterate]

Damn, the phrase "well intentioned" does not look right next to Tom McDonald's face

[@vitobucatini51]

I feel like alot of people now view early 2010s rappers as corny

[@mikef55]

Nah it's just that time period bred a lot of corny rappers. No one's out here calling Wiz Khalifa, Joey Bada$$, Lil Wayne, Drake, Nicki Minaj, Lil B etc. corny

[@wargjdenneiy1235]

@@mikef55 Drake gets called corny nearly all the time and didn’t Kanye call Wiz corny at one point?

[@mikef55]

@@wargjdenneiy1235 I mean you can make an argument for any rapper being corny if you put your mind to it, Drake is the most famous rapper in the world so of course he's going to catch some heat. Kanye is pretty corny too, there's levels. The rappers mentioned in the video are just more corny, hence why they get the label.

[@aj.omanga]

Dax’s overuse of the rap hands gestures only compounds the 🌽

[@lavonnealexander6936]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Mdautkreix]

Dax video be like: 🤟🏾⬆️🤘🏾⬇️🤛🏾➡️🤜🏾⬅️👐🏾↕️👏🏾⤵️🙌🏾⤴️✋🏾↔️🤚🏾↪️💪🏾↩️👈🏾↘️☝🏾↖️👇🏾↙️👊🏾↗️🤘🏾🔂🔂🔂 +hella zooms & shaky steady cam

[@pankajkumar-xr9up]

bro that's his style I don't think that is corny at all...

[@mkultraveectum6732]

@@pankajkumar-xr9up he looks like hes doing a tiktok dance. It's corny

[@VENGEFULHEXX]

A corny rapper making another corny rapper say sorry for being corny. That's corny.

[@KT-pu3gn]

It was over a diss

[@VENGEFULHEXX]

@@KT-pu3gn disses are corny

[@TrippyVision220]

Commenting to show love for these artists.

[@jasonblack9309]

Hey man, I love your content, but someone needs to flip the script on this. Just because someone is mostly positive, doesn't talk about guns, drugs, and violence doesn't mean they're corny. Everyone on that list is who they are, and we shouldn't degrade people because they think differently. We need more artist to spread peace and love instead of drugs and violence.

[@Dodgerz_McFly]

You can be corny depending on how you talk about your content e.g. Lupe Fiasco = Animal Planet or Man vs wild Tom Macdonald = Timon & Pumba 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@CaliCool91]

Blah blah blah, corny is corny. That's exactly why the title says well intentioned. A corny person making positive music is still a corny ass person.

[@theboard3476]

Bro all of that shit is preachy and condescending. I wanna listen to music, I wanna have a enjoy myself and have a good time. If I wanted to hear someone tell me not to do drugs and engage in violence, then I would go to school or church. Shit is corny.

[@error404blah]

GAAAAY!!!

[@seeyoucu]

I do think there needs to be some authenticity. But I do agree that generally we need to make serious space in Hip Hop for greater versatility. The fact that female rappers like NoName are "underground" but some talentless (imo) rappers are mainstream is bad for the growth of the genre.

[@TheWonkyFinger]

It shouldn't matter what anyone raps/sings about we should accept all facets and lanes of hip hop, it just means there is something out there for everyone to enjoy it should bring us together as fans of the genre everyone is entitled to their own opinions so are the music artists people shouldn't be hated on or belittled for what they create when most the people doing so are to scared to even try it for them self and just rather complain online and let their jealousy of their own failures take hold cause they hate their own reflection cause when they fell they didn't get back up they just stayed down

[@RCX_Sco1]

Fax

[@gersonembalo3655]

Now this is what I was looking for someone with a nice clear perspective I can finally rest 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@illahboii225]

Omg thank you it’s how we release like people crazy Frfr my g Ayy they all got they own thing but wassup Gang 💫🔥What kind of music you like ? , you ever heard of IllahBoii?

[@RMor66]

Yes but at the same time rappers need to grow a pair and reattach to reality and realize that some people are gonna say mean comments to you if ur a fuckin celebrity. They are literally the top 1% and then act like they’re life is over when someone insults them it’s fucking pathetic

[@bigcheese2128]

Tom Macdonald is not well intentioned lmfao

[@nickpapageorgio8529]

Bro you always going in on Hopsin

[@alfonsoperezthreezerosix]

I thought Cordae was supposed to be taken seriously, I didn’t think I’d see him as a corny rapper

[@THEJCCOOL]

this like the 3rd video they put out calling Cordae corny too, i aint neva seen nobody else sayin that shit

[@wiseguy240Winston]

He's not corny but he glorifies what came before so hard that nothing about him stands out despite his talent.

[@cullenavent6585]

yeah ive never seen him get called corny either , everybody seems to fw him

[@jfraz1992]

Same here

[@traplover6357]

@@cullenavent6585 DJ Akademiks, Shawn cee, Fantano, and almost all the critics calling Cordae corny for that Birds Eye album. And his first week sales didn't help counteract that either.

[@askurkormi]

Love these videos with refreshing takes on Hip Hop!

[@wiseguy240Winston]

Dax can spit but he follows Eminem so hard in his style that he inherited his corniness. Sam'e case with Hopsin and Tom Mcdonald, in fact it's Eminem that created most of these corny rappers actually.

[@Kiki-xx3fj]

No, the problem is they’re trying to recreate something they were inspired by but it’s not working. It works with Eminem cuz that’s who he is and he created that. He’s able to combine humor, anger and being offensive and pull it off cuz he’s not trying to be anyone else.

[@wiseguy240Winston]

@@Kiki-xx3fj Actually Eminem was trying to be like Redman in his funny and edgy persona. He even admitted this and you can see it quite easily.

[@VENGEFULHEXX]

Dam you onto something

[@souluchiha4778]

Nope Tom just trash

[@OddJaxx900]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@jeremysiron9622]

I love Dax, doesn’t take himself too seriously but appreciates the art form and is incredibly good at it

[@theunknownlyt]

“Good at it” is a huge stretch ☠️

[@martianastronaut4917]

​@@theunknownlyt it really isn't, just cause you don't vibe with his music, doesn't mean he isn't rapping at an elite level. Yall call him corny cause he is true to himself and honest. If he was pretending to be a fake gangster like 80% of the rap industry today, yall would eat it up, until someone test his gangsta and then yall would turn on him cause he doesn't really live the lifestyle you expect him to live. People like Tekashi 69 and Gunna were never once called corny, despite not being about that life at all. That's why I fuck with Griselda, cause not only are they elite lyricists and story tellers, but everything they rap about is facts, not fiction

[@Kamui916]

​@@martianastronaut4917 dawg see you get it. I swear so many people are so blinded by their biased opinions but never actually take the time to break it down like you did. Why are people so prone to ignorance now?

[@jeremysiron9622]

@@martianastronaut4917 man, you put it better than I ever could have

[@Chucky_J421]

It’s not my place to defend anyone, but calling Dax corny just feels too ignorant to me. It shows a lack of understanding of the message he shares and just a general bias towards recent trends of shallow values. I’m not implying he doesn’t have what it takes to be a star (really I believe the opposite) or that his fan base isn’t growing, but I hope he gets the light he deserves and people recognize the amazing message and deliverance of his music. Also they say Dax is corny.. have they not heard his Still DRE remix??? That blew me away 🤷

[@d.michael372]

The Cordea take is accurate. I’ve heard multiple songs from this guy but have yet to hear one that really grabbed my attention. What’s crazy is dude can rap, but I just don’t know man…

[@Subs1338]

Its not enough to be able to rhyme, you gott say something interesting in an interesting way

[@illahboii225]

Frfr D you right Ayy they all got they own thing but wassup Gang 💫🔥What kind of music you like ? , you ever heard of IllahBoii?

[@dkmrap1]

parables is the only song from him I like

[@dr.phylisphical9294]

He needs to practice and learn everyday.

[@harleyqueeen]

All rap, no beats. He needs a solid producer, good music.

[@danielmashanic5738]

Honestly it’s hard to imagine Nav doing anything he raps about. Smashing hot girls, doing drugs, anything. I just don’t believe his image at alllllllllll lmfaooo

[@evanlesoule]

just say y'all like dumb down music, most the artists you mentioned would lyrically smoke most mainstream "non corny" rappers, let people like what they like.

[@cristoferaguirre7742]

Talent don’t take away from corniness, niggas like Kendrick, cold, ye n they lyrical, corniness don’t gatta do nun w lyricism is they personality n how they deliver it

[@jamalwalker04]

Lol like who because most of these rappers are trash

[@inevitablesound7465]

As far as lyrical rappers go niggas don’t call Joey bada$$, Denzel curry, Jid, Kenny Mason, Tahj Keeton, Kendrick, king los, mf doom, earl sweatshirt, Vince staples, baby keem, Dave, Slowthai, Deante Hitchcock, Mavi, Ka, Frank Ocean, Isaiah Rashad, little simz, mac miller, Schoolboy Q, Remble (prolly doesn’t fit this list well), saba, and Mick Jenkins and other rappers like them corny. Even “non lyrical” rappers can put out better lyrics than a lot of the corny niggas (juicewrld, smino, yvngchris, zillakami, etc). Music ain’t just about lyricism, and there’s a reason Eminem’s music has been mediocre for years even with his triple and quadruple entendres and flows too fast to be able to understand what he’s saying.

[@Forgiveiolord]

@@cristoferaguirre7742 hip hop madness clone kzbin.info/www/bejne/gojFYnRtl9qmkLM

[@evanlesoule]

@@inevitablesound7465 I appreciate your very solid argument, I think I just would put cordae in the the list you have here. Also I understand the criticism of Hopsin's attempt to replicate Eminem early in his career but at the same time I don't think people credit him enough for evolving as an artist since then

[@Unknown-go8zy]

People who don’t see that Dax is a absolute talent are stupid. He is rapping about his feelings, depression and sadness what we all felt somehow in our life. Yes it’s normal to cry over a girl who cheated on you. A man who is not touched by such situation are completely numb.

[@Bru946]

Logic gets hate for spreading good from a bad time in his life lmao being "the good guy" is corny in Hip Hop.

[@lesegom7172]

Nah I've listened to his albums he's so corny I've stopped listening to his music

[@erikfernando7768]

@@lesegom7172 what specific albums besides everybody did you listen?

[@poison5343]

@@lesegom7172 listen to his under pressure album then talk buddy

[@gregb9264]

@@erikfernando7768 he won’t answer you because it doesn’t fit his narrative

[@SJ-px2sg]

Nowadays if you’re music has a conscious message, you’re considered corny, crazy

[@ugmcfj]

Dax/Hopsin are corny no ands if or buts about it. Logic can be corny but has plenty of catalogue that I can respect. I’m 30 and I don’t think Cordae is corny tho. His last album is super slept on imo but they ain’t lyin Gibbs didn’t do Cordae any favors with that feature lol.

[@tokeryule5347]

Hopsin has his times Balancing creativity and lyrical content... Or prioritising the former Dax is just horrible, a good example that a good rapper doesn't necessarily mean good music

[@ez_breezy7406]

Hopsin up until he dropped that illmind about god, i think it was 5, and all the funk volume drama cant say he was corny. That nigga had some damn bars. Lots of great songs from him. Lets agree to disagree

[@rudrakshthakur1951]

@@ez_breezy7406 check out his latest music He still got bars.

[@Mike-uf6wf]

Imo the problem is these rappers come off as too preachy in there songs I remember when Dax was a new artist and people where calling him the next 2pac (which I didn’t agree with) but I liked some of his early music but as the years went on his music started to seem too preachy and non genuine especially with that propaganda song lol same with hopsin. People like Kendrick and Jcole aren’t really seen as corny to people because it doesn’t seem like there trying too hard to be preachy in there music and you can tell that they genuinely care about what there talking about and aren’t doing it for attention like most of these “corny” rappers are trying to do.

[@spoiledshorts69]

I don’t think hops newer shit is corny, Your House and Alone With Me are good examples

[@michaelmannucci8585]

Essentially if you’re good, you’re cringe. Part of the whole “try hard” thing.

[@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245]

These days, talent is being replaced by how f***able you look.

[@sechions]

i feel like Dax is too underrated in almost anyones tierlist, but he was really popping off on youtube a few months ago

[@pankajkumar-xr9up]

yes, he is on another level now... fr

[@imanigordon6803]

Dax sucks all he does are freestyles 😂

[@indiashante1560]

I don't care how the world feels I love Logic's music.

[@static_at_home_8885]

Even though I don’t fw logic like that even I gotta admit he’s got some tracks that are just untouchable. That whole Doc D shit also blew me away straight up can’t even front. Fuck everyone he’s earned his spot fs

[@hadookin47]

@@static_at_home_8885 Doc D's awesome, No Pressure is also a great record (of course helped by the production from No I.D.)

[@killuazoldik6582]

ong

[@GoldenGraham25]

I’m not a Logic fan - but I heard some good songs from - it just doesn’t keep my attention enough to stay tuned in.

[@cj94zj92sc]

We were best friends in highschool, we used to hoop every Saturday morning

[@mindslayer1404]

Wish Logic would get his flowers. He gets too much hate for no reason. He’s a purist rapper with a genuine love for hip hop.

[@RMor66]

Nah he is more corny than a damn corn maize. His 1-800 song was trying way too hard to be an sjw.

[@Biggababyvol1]

corny rappers = all talent no sauce wack rappers = all sauce no talent

[@Estylez18]

Cordae Isn't Corny, this Dude Is Talented, the Rhyme Schemes, Flows, Punchlines, and Substance come On Now. He's Got A long way to grow As he matures More in HipHop and Makes more Excellent bodies of work in the near Future. Give him room to grow and He'll Get The Respect from his Peers, and Be acknowledged by the greats.

[@illahboii225]

Frfr they got opinions but that’s all it is Ayy they all got they own thing but wassup Gang 💫🔥What kind of music you like ? , you ever heard of IllahBoii?

[@Adaephonable]

Why do you randomly capitalize words?

[@Kimeikus]

I feel like the whole *”bringing back real rap”* narrative combined with their painfully generic style and artist image is what makes a rapper corny. Most of the rappers on the thumbnail were seen as *”the last real ones left”* at the beginning of their careers but they were so average. They even get co-signs from legendary artists when all they do is spit generic multi syllables, talking about the same generic things, using the same generic flows and yet people paint them as life-changing artists and legends.

[@gxp958]

But the artists that don’t do “real rap “ and make street music talk about the same basic things. And use the same flow So what’s the difference

[@Killabeeeez]

@@gxp958 well that's just it, they never claim that they are doing something different or note worthy so that can't be held against them.

[@Kimeikus]

@@gxp958 Because nobody is making into something that they’re not. Those guys just make fun music and it is what it is.

[@Kimeikus]

@@Killabeeeez Fr

[@imanigordon6803]

@@gxp958 They are just saying what’s on there minds not saying they are the best

[@spacecase7504]

Crazy that they have bars, but I guess it's the way you deliver the message.