Shaykh Atabek Shukurov | Mortgages, Madhabs & Molvi-ism | MindTrap 48 | Mufti Abu Layth

[@nischay1810]

What a top man Shaykh Atabek. Love him. JazakAllah khayr for bringing him on Mufti saheb.

[@SB-co9py]

I’ve been waiting for this for years.

[@iftekharul_islam_ifat]

33:00 I just love the chemistry between these two men here. This episode was an absolute treat! We definitely need a follow-up discussion. ❤️

[@hassanalbasirjamal7013]

birds of a feather

[@SafwanNet]

Spot on

[@moinmuslim4482]

Two legends in one frame

[@Adrian-yf1zg]

Great to hear from a hanafi trying to follow the true spirit of the Imam. Imam Abu Yusuf more or less was a hadithi hanafi, and was so spared the criticism the other hanafis faced from the die hard habalis. I personally think the mutazilis were right on many issues, but we only hear their views from their enemies who "won the war and wrote history".

[@Xaviergonzalez85]

Read "The Wahhabi Myth" by Haneef James Oliver.

[@upquark31415]

And Mu'tazilis only have themselves to blame. There was no need to take the khalq al-Qur'an issue to the state level. Their persecution during the mihna is what turned the sentiment towards their adversaries.

[@hassanabdaladl]

@@Xaviergonzalez85 looks like that book is written by a salafi, trying to save face for the salafis, and white wash reality.

[@mrnomad1737]

Extreme mutazolite also justified being married to their sister..they used logic to the extreme. People missread and misquote and misunderstanding. Both Ibn Sena and Imam Ibn Taiyuan had a lot in common but this is either overlooked or overshadowed by the liberalism tendencies with ibn seenas idolised. Both are byproduct of their time and addressi g their scholars of time. So let's be balanced. projective relativity understanding does great deservice.

[@abdq4712]

1:09:54 'Hadith is not valid except from the fuqaha, and it is not valid except for the fuqaha', that is something to truly ponder.

[@Roadtodotca]

Two Legends!

[@UnderBaseBeatz]

Love that you did a podcast with Shaykh Atabek! JazakAllah Khayre!

[@kyzersmansion2487]

Amazing, big fan of shaykh atabek!

[@rosh70]

Mufti Abu Layth - Not sure if you fully realize, but your videos like these are so much the need of the hour. May Allah SWT bless you manifold for opening minds and hearts. Aameen.

[@shien121]

Beautiful conversation

[@saeerseik7577]

Please bring back him😭😭😭

[@معراج-ل4ب]

😭

[@ekaa96]

Wow, Amazing guest! Love it.

[@mustikhan7512]

Thank you so much for introducing Shaykh Atabek. I have watched Atabek’s talks and I am so grateful to you mufti coz Atabek is doing a great job of breaking the silence on Hadrat Ali and his staus in Sunni Jamaat. Sunni Scholars do not talk much about Hadrat Ali.

[@mustikhan7512]

I did’nt know Shaykh Atabek and now after watching your mindtrap, started lustening to him on other youtube channels. All independant islamic scholars are doing a great job by speaking honestly and daringly about problematic hadiths, hadrat Ali and on many other historical and political games played by that time kings, governors and how they influenced the islamic literature .

[@imammazhar]

Allahuakbar! May the Almighty revive the genuine school of reason; the school of al Imām Abū Ḥanīfah al Nu'mān! Bārak Allāh fīk dear Muftī for this insightful episode with Shaykh Atabek ❤️💯✌🏻

[@rabbi619]

Is it ok to reject a hadith book that is unauthentic like the books before bukhari like mussanaf ibne abi shaiba, mussanaf abdur razzak, baihaqi these type of book that has more daif and mozu hadith is it ok to reject these hadith books and another question is it ok to reject hasan hadith can we reject hasan hadith please answer these questions.

[@immers12345]

Great level of respect between these 2 intellectuals. Really enjoyed it. Alhamdulillah!!! 👍

[@khanG-gq9hc]

Incredible! 🔥🔥

[@mohamedakram1183]

WOW Shaykh Atabek

[@Strawberry40789]

Mufti Saab please make another Interview with him about the topic about Imam Zufar

[@hassanabdaladl]

Mufti you need to schedule this 2-3 hour talk with Shaykh Atabek asap lol that made me excited

[@rg8128]

Shaykh Atabek is an absolute Don. His way of flipping topics on their heads. Just a brilliant and epic Mindtrap. Please mufti book the Shaykh for 3/4 hour slot. Stay blessed

[@ertugrulbayrak11]

So much dignity and respect between you two very enlightening to see! Much respect love!

[@jivaji2028]

Please do part 2🙏

[@waleeyahya198]

Two Dons out there!💪😎

[@rosh70]

Irrespective of any differences based on knowledge (mainly, Fiqh), both these Learned Personalities are my favorites. Very good discussion - looking forward to more such discussions.

[@blissmadmenful]

Thank you for bringing such a great person on your show. awaiting the follow up with the sheikh on ur show.

[@muslimabubakar9384]

Please let us have part 2! Please

[@samid7214]

Legends 💪🏻

[@slkslk7841]

Was waiting for this mindtrap !!!!!

[@thehourglassfan3515]

What an enjoyable, respectful dialogue! Hopefully, the two of you will have another one soon! God bless you both.

[@asiemmalik736]

Next meet up could focus on voice of reason when approaching Quran and Hadith, book Maliki principles in approaching Hadith, and when do we understand Quran literally or allegorically ? 👍🏼

[@Mohammed-er3il]

26:00

[@shahrukhgilani5246]

مفتی صاحب ایسا معلوم ہوتا ہے دل کی بات سن لی آپ نے! اس قسط کا منتظر تھا!

[@wajahathussainalhanafi1369]

Asslamo Alaikum Mufti Sahab, I hope and pray that you are ever green as always. Mufti, I wanted to contact you but my Fb account is closed. So couldn't get in touch with you. I have sent an email to you as well. Please could you check. Thanks. Best Regards.

[@mdabdl4225]

If we can see ustaadh wajahat Hussain and mufti discussing Hadith (and its principal) would be fantastic. As seen from wajahat Hussain videos he has v good command Over this subject. Mufti Sahab plz look into this request as it will another as they say in Urdu damakedar video (explosive hahah )

[@RayyanMusa]

This was an amazing insight into how the personal preferences of Ulama affect how they give their opinion on Fiqh and do not follow the principles laid by founding Madhab scholars.

[@fraudsfc]

Wow. What a guest and what a discussion!? Thoroughly enjoyed this one mufti. Thank you and I look forward to more discussions with the sheikh on your program. It was excellent

[@alexanderhomoky1140]

Bar Atabek opening soon! (inshaAllah) ❤

[@hassanabdaladl]

Lol "the legend, the man, the myth". Ya Mufti, the saying goes 'the man, the myth, the legend' hahahaha

[@umeriqbal5406]

Mufti needs to watch John Wick again to get his quotes right.

[@waqaryounas3057]

He says it probably in 1 32 25

[@Salim_Maliki]

Very Interesting! Please bring Shaykh Atabek Shukurov back for the mentioned Hanafi Madhab Episode

[@mohamedakram1183]

Masha Allah

[@Saracen786]

An incredible discussion thank you both. Got so many questions in my head after this. Please get Shaykh Atabek back soon- can’t wait!

[@syedzainrehan]

Aswr, excellent discussion masha Allaah(swt). Would love to see more from akhi Atabek. jazakum Allaah(swt) khair!

[@hammadsiddiqui8421]

Thank you mufti

[@memememmee7794]

Mufti, thank you for keeping it professional the whole way through! Shaykh atabek deserves our full attention and may Allah bless you both with the best

[@asathelogiclaman637]

I am literally even ready to beg Mufti for a round 2 on other topics of Islam.... I really hope Mufti ji there will be another mindtrap with atabek brother💞✌️💯

[@zoolothman3609]

amazing discussion as always mufti. a shame it was cut short though. but greatly appreciate your time and efforts to bring these much needed discussions to the masses! Thanks a million.

[@whatsupwhatsup9498]

21:28 What about the great religious scholars of Egypt who also shaving their beards? At least the moroccan scholars are no hypocrites and I'm not even a moroccan, but I think it's so disrespectful to talk about the scientists like that, Who are those guys to judge others like that as if shaving beard is the worst thing a human can do. I mean shirk and immoral behavior is everywhere in Muslim countries and we are being attacked from all sides and the only thing we worry about is the scholars shaving their beards.

[@mohamedakram1183]

I sm still waiting for Shaykh Stabek last 3months but still no reply. Thanks Mohamed Akram

[@usmant100]

Epic! I reckon a weekly session of these two legends dealing with common issues of today would literally revolutionise Islamic thought! ! Thank you for your efforts MALM🤘

[@halilhasani4000]

❤️❤️❤️

[@m-i_]

Lets address the elephant in the room: as awesome and reasonable shk. Atabek is, he has vids with him believing in black magic, Mahdi and the return of Isa( opposite of Mufti's views) Wish next session would be about these. Thanks Mufti for your time and effort!

[@arshaanfur]

Ya the whole elixirs for covid thing got new a bit sus too. But whatever I'm sure he's not doing anything that's harmful to the health

[@Adrian-yf1zg]

Nothing wrong with differing views even if they seem wacko. He is comfortable having a dialogue and is not a deobandi hadithi fanatic... Which in my view is good, as it adds more diversity.

[@m-i_]

@@Adrian-yf1zg take black magic tho, it's a superstition.

[@Adrian-yf1zg]

@@m-i_ yes i don't believe in it. But i would say the vast majority of muslims do and they have some hadith that support them. Deobandis like ashraf ali thanvi also have books supporting that. While these are points that can be argued over, i'm glad mufti concentrated on the issues of hanafi fiqh, aturudi aqidah and the primacy of hadith status... I'd rather hear the shaykhs views on those points than all the other stuff which agrees with most deobandis/muslims anyway.

[@UnderBaseBeatz]

Who cares, no elephant in the room. There are differences in opinion amongst those that are qualified to draw those opinions! God will still reward the effort of the scholar that got it wrong! It's all good.

[@DarioHaruni]

Check out also the Hanafi of Turkey, Albania, Kosovo and Bosnia. Nothing in common with Pakistani Hanafi.

[@somayyamughal8313]

How?

[@DarioHaruni]

@@somayyamughal8313 u mean Why?

[@AbdullahodSandzak]

I can attest to what he says. The hanafi of Bosnia and turkey are very Syrian style hanafi, which are not as "hardcore" as the Indian hanafi. But again, in India you have deobandi and brelvi which are kind of different to each other.

[@DarioHaruni]

@fahad alam check out Hoxhë Drilon Gashi on KZbin if you understand Albanian. He's from Kosovo.

[@tausif3k]

why is that?

[@mainulhusainkhan1333]

Assalamu alaikum. Personally I respect both of you, as you are trying to do something unprecedented. May Allaah show you the right path. I have a question on the concept "Mortgage = taukil + murabaha". In Murabaha model, isn't it like the seller has to own the property before being able to sell? We know that banks don't deal with the product or house itself, they transfer the money to your account and you are the one who buys the property, then bank treats your property as security against non-payment. Bank is, in my understanding, only dealing with money, unless it is a house in foreclosure. Am I getting it wrong? it would be great if this was explained a little bit more. Jazak Allaahu khair! By the way, the 'taukil' rationale was mind blowing indeed.

[@businesswatch1206]

In Murabaha transaction, it’s a Shari’a condition that the Islamic bank needs to own the asset prior to selling. The Islamic bank purchases the asset in its name and then sells it to the customer under Murabaha agreement. In case the customer acts as an agent, he then purchases the asset on behalf of the Islamic bank and then purchases the asset from the bank under Murabaha agreement. The non-Islamic bank usually transfers the funds to the customer’s account to enable him to purchase the asset. It doesn’t need to own the asset. However, in both Murabaha & non-Islamic banking transactions, the asset is mortgaged as collateral.

[@mainulhusainkhan1333]

@BusinessWatch and ​@MrNK, many thanks for clarifying. This helps me understand it better.

[@drusman7121]

Mufti sahib please one more episode on Early Hanafi school and Abu Zufar with Sheikh.❤️

[@omerfawadrauf7369]

Can someone please share the interaction between ash. Atabek with Sh Asrar.

[@Ali-jm4re]

Mufti sahab did you do your mufti course at the near by disco club?

[@MegaRippon]

Two awesome scholars - a very educative session

[@tx6314]

Any books on the early hanif is mufti saab?

[@chin8062]

Really interesting conversation, would love to see Shaykh Atabek to embrace social media and share his works.

[@shahjahaAn]

Maa sadqeh

[@musicstan9139]

Where can i get the classical text mufti?

[@kultnoir]

Abu Laith As-Samarqandi was also from today's Uzbekistan

[@bbaa9447]

The preeminent Hanafi scholar of today.

[@bbaa9447]

Because he knows the classic Hanafi texts and verdicts. Not some Wahabi-Deobandi petrodollar mumbo jumbo. He humiliated Asrar Rashid.

[@bbaa9447]

@Tik Rak I subscribe to certain parts of both schools Zaidism/Twelverism and also the Mu’tazila and Falasifa (Ibn Sina). Don’t subscribe to a particular one as all are human interpretations at the end of the day.

[@bbaa9447]

@Tik Rak what do you mean what is my discord? Please explain.

[@bbaa9447]

@Tik Rak I am 33, I don’t consider myself that old lol. But perhaps I am as I didn’t know about this app. Yeah I’ll download it. What is your beliefs?

[@bbaa9447]

@Tik Rak Nice. Great to find someone with a similar intellectual/spiritual journey. Would be good to discuss our perspectives and learn more inshAllah.

[@avnisekiraqqa3365]

Wy dont you dialog with Paul williams

[@arshaanfur]

I love shayk atabeek We need more mindtraps with him asap mufti. Get him at a time when he's fresh and awake and can talk about hanafi history without being tired. On another note though : I do think the shayk is a bit too mean to our BELOVVEEEDD shayk asrar :P

[@sheikhsadi5745]

That’s because Asrar calls him a mubtadi, even though Shaykh Atabek is far more qualified in the Hanafi school not only in its Fiqh but in Aqueedah i.e. early Hanafi & Maturidi. He actually specialises in Aqueedah

[@fulaan1]

Muwatta by the narration of Imam Muhammad??

[@muslim-g1x]

28:00 mortgage

[@mumen4806]

Mufti sahab 2-3 questions thai ek do hadith kai related ..not on this topic kahaa puchu insta pai reply nahi diya aapnai

[@drusman7121]

What an amazing mintrap Mufti sahib. Waiting for the follow up ❤️

[@gondala]

the quality sound of syaikh attabek is bad. i cannot hear clearly what he said.

[@nourhelel2873]

Asalaam aleikom mufti.how are doing and feeling?inshaAllah good en well and family too...jazaika Allahu gairan for this mindtrap.in this three major video's.masaAllah i learn do much from you.mat Allah reward for that...zo much questions are now...and specially about problematiek hadiths and thinking in Islam...❤❤❤...may Allah subhana wa'talle protect and bless you and your family...

[@ahmadhusny7849]

I respect maulana, mufti from Pakistan, Bangladesh and India, MashAllah very knowledgeable, but I am very disappointed when coming to their own culture, their culture is more important than religion, the culture is above religion. I visited Pakistan, I was shocked people worship the grave and dead body. May Allah guide us to right path

[@somayyamughal8313]

Majority of muslim are hanfi.. abu layth

[@abdurraheem2516]

Sheikh is grossly mistaken on the issue of Beard that the length of the beard is only raised by Indo-Pak subcontinent scholars. The first one to talk about the length was Imam Sughnaki known as sahib un nihaya. Sheikh should clear it as it was an academic mistake by him.

[@abulhakim9405]

Sheikh is awesome and his ideas and his mission is commendable. But on the other note, I think that we have fallen so behind and backward. While non Muslims just landed on Mars, we are still struggling with these low level BS stuff.

[@متين-ج4ز]

Non-Muslims are burning the world, who cares about sending a hunk on Mars.

[@adilrasheedonline]

The following verses refers to riba / usury. Those who devour usury (interest) will not stand except as stand one whom the Evil one by his touch Hath driven to madness. That is because they say: “Trade is like usury,” but Allah hath permitted trade and forbidden usury. Those who after receiving direction from their Lord, desist, shall be pardoned for the past; their case is for Allah (to judge); but those who repeat (The offence) are companions of the Fire: They will abide therein (for ever). ( Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse 275) Allah will deprive usury of all blessing, but will give increase for deeds of charity: For He loveth not creatures ungrateful and wicked. (Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #276) O ye who believe! Fear Allah, and give up what remains of your demand for usury, if ye are indeed believers. (Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #278) O ye who believe! Devour not usury, doubled and multiplied; but fear Allah; that ye may (really) prosper. (Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #130) That they took usury, though they were forbidden; and that they devoured men´s substance wrongfully;- we have prepared for those among them who reject faith a grievous punishment. (An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #161) That which ye lay out for increase through the property of (other) people, will have no increase with Allah: but that which ye lay out for charity, seeking the Countenance of Allah, (will increase): it is these who will get a recompense multiplied. (Ar-Room, Chapter #30, Verse #39) Clear conclusions from there verses: Trade although has some parallels with usury are not the same things. The blame is only on the takers of usury not on the giver. When someone is in a financial need, help him in whatever ways you deem fit without exploiting his condition. This will be counted as charity by Allah. Since it is impossible to avoid "usury" completely (due to inflation, lack of wealth generation mechanisms, war like situation, use of different currencies in different parts of the world) a limited permissibly is granted. It is only the exorbitant (double and multiplied) usury that is prohibited and devoid of any blessings. The ultimate guidance (regarding the exact meaning of usury, exorbitant, difference between trade and usury) will come from Allah alone and everyone will be judged based on his intentions and level of understandings Unfortunately the so called "ulema" read everything but Quran. They make all things such as photo, silk, gold haram against the Quran. These ulema are making money out of the religion aso they can not be honest in accepting truth.

[@adilrasheedonline]

Now look where all the confusion comes from. Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 41, Number 579: Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah: I went to the Prophet while he was in the Mosque. (Mis'ar thinks that Jabir went in the forenoon.) After the Prophet told me to pray two Rakat, he repaid me the debt he owed me and gave me an extra amount. From Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet, peace be on him, said: "If a man extends a loan to someone he should not accept a gift." (Mishkat, op. cit., on the authority of Bukhari's Tarikh and Ibn Taymiyyah's al-Muntaqa). Narrated AbuUmamah: The Prophet said: “If anyone intercedes for his brother and he presents a gift to him for it and he accepts it, he approaches a great door of the doors of riba.” [Sunan Abu Dawood, Book 23, # 3534] Narrated Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet borrowed a two-year-old camel and returned a similar camel, and in addition he gave another camel, and said: 'Best of you are the best in returning your debts.' [Suhail, p. 106, quoting Jami AlTirmidhi, Kitab al-Buyu, v.6, #56] Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 34, Number 344: Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab: Allah's Apostle said, "The bartering of gold for silver is Riba (usury), except if it is from hand to hand and equal in amount, and wheat grain for wheat grain is usury except if it is form hand to hand and equal in amount, and dates for dates is usury except if it is from hand to hand and equal in amount, and barley for barley is usury except if it is from hand to hand and equal in amount." Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 34, Number 388: Narrated Abdur-Rahman bin Abu Bakra: that his father said, "The Prophet forbade the selling of gold for gold and silver for silver except if they are equivalent in weight, and allowed us to sell gold for silver and vice versa as we wished."

[@justCommando]

Goodbye "islamic" culture! Hello shiny new house on a mortgage! Nothing's gonna stop me. This year or early next year inshallah 😁

[@musmanov4642]

Follow your desires

[@seleimansafi4287]

A Hanafi and a Hanafi in denial :-)

[@supporterofeastturkestanin2871]

abu layth likes spending time with half-naked (or totally naked) girls/women, he is preoccupied with making himself more and more bulkier, it is apparent from the very first glimpse at him, but despite it there are people who continue to admire him. why such people (like abu layth) roam the planet freely causing mischief on earth?! is not anyone out there to put an end to such people?!

[@omerali2690]

It seems you are personally following him, you naughty naughty....

[@kanwar47]

This Shaykh is a waffler.

[@huzaif3962]

Two legends in one frame