SHE JUST DID THAT! - Bridgerton 1X06 - 'Swish' Reaction

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[@stillhere95]

In the books it is so much worse. If I recall correctly, he is drunk outta his mind and Daphne takes advantage of him. Even in his drunken state, he withdraws consent and doesn't want to finish but she makes him as depicted in the show and then acts self righteous and gaslights the heck outta him.

[@acciotardisalohomora6302]

are alot of the couples like this and Lady Danbury? I'm only asking since I love this series but I'm coming to terms with my own childhood trauma (similar to Lady Danbury and Featheringtons) and I have to skip a lot of scenes in the show now that it's triggering it. I'm not shitting on the series. I actually thing QC did a great job at expressing how it feels to be raised like Lady Danbury w/o glamorizing it. I just heard that the books were a lot less fleshed out and at least in the series I can see they went for a modern psychological feel for each character. I finally started the first book so yeahh.....

[@acciotardisalohomora6302]

mainly I'm wondering if all the scenes are like what Daphne did or what I heard happened with Antony & his love interest w/ the bee sting. Trying to keep it spoiler free just in case.

[@tessam1705]

The series was met with a lot of praise, but there was one major point of critique that everyone had, which was regarding THAT scene. I can’t imagine what the writers were thinking including it. Personally, I actually stopped watching the series cause it ruined their story for me at the time. I only finished watching it after the season 2 promotion started (it looks so good). And even then I had to erase the memory of watching the last 10 minutes to even remotely enjoy watching the rest of their story. On another note, Penelope is one of my favorites! I think she’s a great character and I think any of her actions relating to Colin and Marina, are of course partly out of love and jealousy, but mainly to protect him. He deserved better and she was genuinely contemplating ruining her own future, to protect his.

[@ugh4387]

nah a lot of it isn't green screen they actually filmed in loads of stately homes and castles and stuff around england ☺ the obvious green screen is (some, not all) of the horse & carriage stuff but the buildings and that for the most part are real

[@starlight-ki6fr]

The rape scene, which is referred to as the controversial sex scene in interviews (which makes no sense), completely disgusted me. I'm angry at the show for not including trigger warnings at the start of the episode and not acknowledging that as Simon did not consent, that this was rape. If the show had acknowledged this and showed Daphne coming to terms with what she did to her husband and at the least apologising to him, then I would have respected the show and the writers for taking the the sexual assault of a man seriously. I don't understand why people take Daphne's side because they think Simon was stronger than her and could have pushed her off him. The point is that Simon trusted Daphne so he did not have his guard up and never thought that she would do something to him against his will. When it was happening he was in shock and couldn't process what was happening. He is traumatised. If a man had done to this to his wife, no one would be on his side.

[@TrophyReacts]

Jesus Christ, thank you! So many people seem to be trying to like, justify it or something 😭first comment i complete agree with! Yes Simon lying about not being able to have kids is a shitty thing to do but I’m sorry, as soon as Daphne rapes him and the writers still try to get us to ship them then i back out😂like what’re they thinking

[@ajbenton2174]

The best part of this episode is when they remixed Wildest Dreams by Taylor Swift I was like wtf is that wildest dreams I'm on episode 8 rn and idk how to feel about Daphne and Simon anymore

[@natashaj849]

It’s a controversial scene where I see both sides but I’m more on Simon’s side. Daphne could have simply confronted him about it she did not have to go about it in this way.

[@MsMaggyW]

Simon and Daphne are both toxic as all get-out. They were my least favourite part of the series, all the side plots interested me more. BUt the reason I empathize with Daphne slightly more, is simply because she has no experience, no knowledge of reproduction, consent, etc. She probably doesn't even know what she did is wrong because she wasn't taught it. She didn't know that sex existed, do you really think someone educated her about rape? She doesn't know how to be in a relationship. Simon has experience and knowledge and he fully took advantage of her ignorance, he was intentionally vague so she wouldn't realise that it was actually possible for him to give her children, he just didn't want to. Let's face it, he wanted her to think well of him so he basically lied. I want kids someday and I have to say that if I fell in love with someone and learned they were sterile, we'd make do, we could adopt or use artifical insemination... But if I found out they lied and we totally could have kids and they just don't want to, when I've always made it clear I want nothing more than that, I think I'd get a divorce seriously. That's such a disgusting thing to do.

[@lemonhead9760]

Yes omg I totally agree, I wish more people would see this. But then again their ignorance may get the better of them and they just would not care about all the facts you just stated.

[@erikperhs_]

At the end of the day, it's his personal life. Also, do you seriously sympathize more with the rapist than with the victim?

[@kunglaoshat1250]

The Daphne stuff was gross. If a man did something like that to a woman no one would be defending him. Even if the man wasn’t educated about sex most people would still think that a woman explicitly saying stop should be enough to clue him in that he should stop. I totally get why this scene is so divisive and made people stop shipping Simon/Daphne. I was able to enjoy the show overall, but that scene makes me incredibly uncomfortable every time I think of it. There were already book to screen changes so I’m not sure why they felt they had to stick so closely to the source material with that plot line. I mean why not just have Simon get caught up in the moment and forget or something. Why include a marital rape scene in a romance?

[@pixieangel4261]

The scene with Daphne is in the book as well. I'm not condoning her actions as it is spousal rape, but Simon isn't innocent, either-- he played on her ignorance about sex. But that scene in the book has me questioning if I'm going to continue reading the books

[@tessam1705]

I haven’t read the first book but 2-4 are safe to read in that regard!

[@pixieangel4261]

@@tessam1705 that's good to know, thanks!

[@maciedixon3983]

They really toned it down in the show

[@erikperhs_]

Lying is not near as bad as rape

[@Tcab96]

I also don’t think there’s any reason to think he played on her ignorance. There’s just no reason to think that

[@tanaka-kunthelazy4995]

Tbh i don't even think daphne is aware of why what she did is wrong because she's so sheltered

[@erikperhs_]

She knew he didn't want kids and she forced him anyway. No one has to explain to her that this is wrong

[@maskedmarvel09]

^especially as a woman. She definitely knows what being forced to do something is

[@Nikki-oe7gr]

I don't think Simon made an honest mistake thinking she knew where babies come from. I think he knew she didn't have that knowledge and took advantage of her lack of understanding. Remember, he had to explain m@sturbat!on to her. So, if she didn't know that, there's a strong chance she wouldn't know the nitty-gritty of conception. By the way, if he really didn't want to climax inside her, he could have at least tried to flipped her off of him, because he's way bigger and stronger than her. She still shouldn't have done what she did... she should've confronted him about his shady behavior, but he is FAR from an innocent in this scenario.

[@erikperhs_]

Seriously? Victim blaming?

[@Tcab96]

Nah, I disagree. There’s no reason to think that Simon intentionally strung her along. I honestly think this is just shitty writing. I hate storylines where talking for more than fifteen minutes between characters would solve pretty much all the problems.

[@karenchinchilla8706]

Bro. If the same thing were to be said for a women people would not agree

[@justaboringgirl7724]

@@erikperhs_they’re both the victim bro 💀

[@librabri963]

Yes, your not the only one that felt disgusted by Daphne’s actions in this episode because I was like wtf. I also seen people on Twitter talking about what she did in this episode lol

[@ree4678]

I don’t understand why you got annoyed with Penolpoe! She knew colin her whole life of course she won’t stand and watch him getting played!!

[@vanessavazquez5167]

That might be partly true but in reality she’s just jealous bc she likes him but she is watching him get married to Marina. She was very annoying about the situation but i understand what Marina was doing was wrong also

[@HuntingViolets]

@@vanessavazquez5167 I will die on the hill that Penelope could have gone to Violet or Eloise and told them if she wanted to save Colin but not destroy Marina and her own family (however awful they are). Lady Whistledown should not have been on the table.

[@Leonnie13]

There are sooooo many things wrong with this storyline. It’s kind of disgusting what Simon is doing to Daphne. But Daphne should have taken a different strategy. Like not do that, but have it out with him all the same. Honesty before vows it critical.

[@liseu.2271]

Daphne was WRONG!!!! Simon should have been more precise, "I can have kids but I don't want any". Fact is if he had told her the truth she would have still married him. The family and Daphne would have been ruined if she didn't marry as they were seen. She was going to marry Burbrook so they wouldn't be ruined and imagine her having to have sex with him, that would have felt like rape 😖. I think the times and book dictated the way and why this awful scene was played out. Women had no choices back then

[@ree4678]

Honestly i watch the show for Eloise! I also enjoy the mother and lady danbury

[@ItsClarice]

This episode is definitely a big disappointment for me. I understand that they are both at fault and that both issues are somewhat in line with the times the show is trying to depict (although the show is not keen on following history in other aspects but anyway). I do think that Simon should have been honest about not wanting kids since Daphne thought he couldn't have them. And I don't think the justification that he assumed she knew how babies were made (and that he was pulling out by choice) is applied here cause just a few episodes ago she came to him asking about sex and he was the one to first teach her how to masturbate. Women during that time period would not receive any kind of sex education nor experience prior to marriage, so I get why she felt betrayed in that sense. HOWEVER, I do think that what Daphne did was on a whole other level here, especially through a modern audience lens. The rape scene, from what I've heard, is even more explicitly disturbing in the books, highlighting his lack of consent. I get wanting to be loyal to the books and I do think it's valid to depict flawed characters and immoral choices. However, I don't like how the writers handled this issue here. Like, yeah the music is creepy and they have an argument after, but I feel like they should have made her actions look much more despicable than they did. The issue is glossed over too quickly in the show in my opinion, not problematized enough. Male rape is still to this day highly overlooked by society. This could have been a chance to bring light to the horror of it.

[@michanone]

Well, I'm gonna comment as someone who has only read the books. In the books it was even more serious. (He was drunk, if I remember correctly) It's an extreme thing and you're right with that both are at fault. Simon should've been clear from the beginning. Daphne should have tried at least to talk to him. The whole time she's shown to be someone that speaks her mind. Strange she doesn't do it there. I was reading the book and was like "Wait... that's it? They're going to go on like it didn't really happen? No, just no." It was a huge letdown. At least they should have included something like Simon trying to talk with someone he trusts or her crying in realization. It's definitely the wrong message.

[@kunglaoshat1250]

It was totally glossed over in the show. It’s just presented as a “they both made mistakes” situation, which is technically true, but one of those mistakes was clearly much worse. A lie by omission is not equally as bad as rape.

[@erikperhs_]

@@kunglaoshat1250 Even in the official Netflix recap made by the actors they didn't mention it.

[@puddlesplasher-inc]

I completely checked out on Daphne after this and I thought your reaction was spot on. I .

[@tangerine4665]

Wow everyone is so disgusted by Daphne, and then with Drogo and Danny is oooohhh awwww so romantic

[@HuntingViolets]

Who thought that?

[@lotusblomst5071]

Hello, Im a long time follower & I love your reactions but you can't look at the show from a 2022 point of view. First of all, Daphne knew jack shit about sex - including how woman become pregnet. And Simon knew that. He was intentionally being vage about the fact that he could have kids - & not just that he didn't want to. Which is straight up lying & not okay when the one you are married to have a right to know. Also, daphne actually tried to talk to him, but he literally refused to talk to her. Last thing. In that time consent was not a thing. It simply didn't exist. So no Daphne is not a pysko. But she's a young woman that has been told all her life that she her only purpose in life is to get married & have children. And if she didn't it would bring shame not only to her but her whole family. Now does all this mean that I agree w/ her choices ? Ofc not. But I do understand that she was desperate & did what she felt she had to do. Especially in those times where your reputation is truly everything.

[@erikperhs_]

You know what else what's a thing back then? Black people in nobility. Songs from the 21st century. Glitter. And yet they use it anyway, so why not use consent too?

[@maskedmarvel09]

I didn't like Daphne or Simon as their own characters, let alone together. Hated that this act was still kept in from the books, definitely should have been done in better way. Or maybe it helped to get us a bit more on Simon's side, because I know a lot of people hated him for not telling her the truth. I see no issue in the fact he didn't want children, for whatever reason. Yes he should have told her he wouldn't, rather than couldn't have them, but she went into the marriage knowing it wouldn't happen either way. I'm so glad their story is over

[@XRos28]

You are from the UK, right? Don't you know the difference between nobility and royalty? Daphne is noble grace, not royal. The show is based on a book (loosely), and yes, Lady Wistldown is a gossip column from the book.

[@HuntingViolets]

I guess being from the UK doesn't necessarily mean you care about the nobility and the royals.

[@samroxeva]

18:32 strap up fellas

[@MaRGaPeRSe]

I dont understand your reaction... you understand that he lied to her and told her he couldnt have children when it was actually his choice and then didn't tell her that he needed to you know what inside of her to get her pregnant and she had to ask a maid for information? I understand this is a polemic scene since what she did isn't right but I totally understand her anger, he lied to her, tricked her because he knew she was ignorant as to human reproduction. I totally understand her reaction of anger and dissapointment in him.

[@MaRGaPeRSe]

Of course I'm not saying what she did was right, IT IS NOT, but I'm confused with your reaction, you acted like she did this out of nowhere, like he's an innocent player in this, he is not. He knew what he was doing and since he had to teach her literally about everything concerning sex, in the end he knew she didn't know what he was doing and play the fool like "I thought you knew". No mister, you knew she didn't and expected everything will be fine and go your way.

[@TrophyReacts]

I get what you’re saying, but I just can’t root for Daphne in this situation Aha, and the problem I have is that the writers then try to get us to fall back in love with these two as a couple in the new two eps 😅this was the scene that ruined that romance and it just came across that the writers were unaware of that

[@bakie4175]

@@TrophyReacts they were aware..it was deliberate ..its in the books aswell Its clear, cut and dry,unjustifiable marital rape

[@TrophyReacts]

Not on about the scene itself, I’m on about why the writers tried to get us to fall back in love with them as a couple, like them doing slow mo dances in the rain, like c’mon 😭who still ships them

[@darkhorse4122]

@@TrophyReacts I guess it’s better to think of the scene in it’s time period, thought if we did she probably would have been beat for what she did, but in that time realistically not being told how a person gets pregnant deliberately so he could lie about the situation is a big thing because back then having a child was annoyingly a big responsibility of the women. She likely was even more mad because she understood him when it was something he couldn’t control but when that was a lie and he wasn’t willing to tell her, knowing that people would likely judge her for not being fertile. It doesn’t disregard her actions, but back then the situation is a bit more complicated I guess. Considering back then the roles would be reversed way more and such.

[@ddman10001]

Dude that was the 18th century there were no Meetoo in those days and things like that happened on both sides in the 18th century domestic rape in a marriage was not a thing back then reporting a rape aor calling things like that rape in a marriage was unheard of, check your History, the show is just being accurate about the norms in that period of time.

[@kaylaisyou]

Right right this show is definitely known for its historical accuracy

[@TrophyReacts]

Bruh 😭😭😂😂

[@kunglaoshat1250]

I mean the show depicts misogyny because that was a part of the time period, but the show also makes it clear how wrong sexism is. If the show is applying modern attitudes to some things then naturally a lot of people are going to view other parts of the show through a modern lens. Also as another commenter said the show is clearly not big on historical accuracy. It’s not based on a true story or trying to give an gritty accurate representation of the times. The show chose to use marital rape as a plot point which is a weird thing to include when you want people to root for the couple.

[@jezruby2]

This episode reminded me why I stop watching this channel. Lol. The breakdown and feedback is very INTJ lol

[@HuntingViolets]

What does this mean?

[@Cijevni1]

I don't say what Daphne did was right but why no one thinks about the fact that Simon as bigger and stronger could at any point stop the sex... He could have easily throw Daphne off of him...

[@falsememorytruedream]

lol dude you literally misunderstood this entire thing. He lied to her about the kids. You keep calling her weird when she found out he's been lying to her this entire time. He told her he Can't have kids. and how many times she said he has a physical limitation. And even during the sex scene she asked him if it hurts because she doesn't understand why she pull outs. She knew nothing... I guess you weren't paying attention idk.

[@TrophyReacts]

I literally misunderstood nothing 😂I know he lied to her about that, my point was why do the writers think having her rape him was a good idea if they wanted us to be on board with their romance. I dunno, maybe you weren’t paying attention or something I guess

[@falsememorytruedream]

@@TrophyReacts Nah I didn't mean for that part. you are entitled to your opinion on that. I meant in the lead up when she found he was lying. and she got sad your response was "she's acting weird". And no she's not she's sad bc she found out he's been lying to her. It's natural to be sad someone lied? And you didn't ship them anyway so no loss there lol. it's just a dumb show anyway.

[@TrophyReacts]

Yeah I didn’t ship them anyway thankfully 😂

[@falsememorytruedream]

@@TrophyReacts btw idk how tone comes across but I wasn't trying to be combative or anything. chill vibes all good.

[@TrophyReacts]

Tone will never come across well over anything that’s written let’s be honest 😭 but no it’s good bruh! I was just explaining that I knew what was going on in the story is all. Peace to you!😤✌🏼