The Kenobi Series Harvested my Kidneys and Sold Them on eBay (PART ONE)

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Time stamps:
0:00: Introduction
4:23: Episode 1
55:18: Episode 2
1:30:40: Episode 3
2:07:18: Outro

[@joannbalzer4955]

Why do you feel the need to always use such filthy language? You need some help if a tv show makes you this angry, which can lead to medical issues. Maybe you should try counseling…..

[@TheGameKnight]

Somebody has never left their house before and been to anywhere

[@DOOM_guyEditz433]

Sometimes for me a lot of swearing can be cringy but Sheev is able to deliver it in such a way where it works

[@john_1986]

1. This is the internet, get used to potty mouth bad words. 2. Can you link a study that shows how getting mad at a TV show/movie leads to medical issues? What medical issues does it lead to? How long do you have to hate a TV show before you devlope said medical issues?

[@ST-ly8uf]

It harvested his kidneys man!

[@crypticcomms]

thinking you can diagnose medical issues from how someone wrote their script is totally super normal and healthy on the other hand

[@fernando230497]

Honestly they keep using Tatooine everywhere they can, it just makes me think Luke was wrong by thinking this was the farthest planet in the galaxy and no one cares for it. It seems to be the very center of the galaxy as everyone ends up there somehow.

[@bevvvy1374]

And even if it's not Tatooine itself, they just use a clone of it like Jakku

[@mischievousjr.9299]

Bro deadass didnt even notice how all the other shows always have the main characters end up on Tatooine. Most of them stay too!!

[@delta.6160]

And meanwhile the ACTUAL center of the galaxy/most important planet (Coruscant) is completely ignored! (At least we’re finally going back there in Andor thank god😂)

[@dupsdeggerod3037]

@@delta.6160 except we're going back there with casio keyboard endor instead of an interesting character

[@username45739]

It stopped being "nowhere" when it became Jabba's headquarters at the end of Esb.

[@crimsonking440]

"This is the most important jedi to survive the purge..." Filoni, SPRINTING into the writers room- You're talkin about Ashoka, right?

[@cm9241]

More like autistically power walking while holding onto his dumbass cowboy hat

[@SRR-5657]

***Filoni then remembering that AcKsHuAlLy Ashoka isn't TECHNICALLY a Jedi anymore!!!!*****

[@RampidWarthogStudios]

@@SRR-5657it's pronounced ASSoka

[@pjolex5896]

The worst part about this is, the work was actually done for them, they just could have turned the legends Kenobi book into a series because it actually addresses everything perfectly

[@MasterIceyy]

Yes but the original didn't have enough strong female characters, which is why this show is pretty much about Leia and Reva. Same reason as why Leia is beating Luke in lightsabre duels when he trained her. The Force is Female!

[@Coramelimane]

It would have required paying the author of the book every time people watched the episodes. Disney doesn't pay people for their intellectual property.

[@lightpoint4426]

What's really wild is that there IS a strong female character in that book, but not the kind of 'Strong Female Character' on Disney's checklist. She's level-headed, mature, and is very close to the center of the conflict. But she's not a Jedi. As I recall, she's a mother (and a widow) who's taking care of her moisture farm and family as best as she can. She's still tough, but it's probably the wrong kind of tough for the execs FML. And this is making me remember how good that book is.

[@timbirdie8180]

​@@MasterIceyyu mean ur a incel got it. The force is female isn't a slogan but I wish it was so you'd rot in seething despair

[@timbirdie8180]

​@@lightpoint4426that wasn't the reason why at all they're just an incel anyone who's mad that the characters they don't like are girls is a misogynist. You can dislike them but if u focus on thier girls that's why the sucked they were tokens ur saying u really can't see any new characters be girls without hating them

[@thepikminbrawler1746]

I think I’ve consumed more Kenobi critique content at this point than the actual time I spent watching the 6 episodes

[@callmeej8399]

I haven’t even watched it but I’ve watched tons of breakdowns on the writing

[@AshVsEvilFred]

JustSomeGuy has some great videos on it if youre interested

[@mrrictus]

Thepikminbrawler17: I think I’ve consumed more Kenobi critique content at this point than the actual time I spent watching the 6 episodes She-Hulk: Hold my keg of estrogen

[@mrrictus]

Yeah he does, but he's been more of an unscripted ranting commentator than a calm voiced one lately.

[@AshVsEvilFred]

@@mrrictus doesnt matter to me personally if he has good points to make. Just saying if you like this you’ll prolly like him

[@aaronfarrell6484]

I hate the “cutting yourself off from the force” thing. First Luke, now Obi-Wan. It’s a pathetic way to create an arc for established characters. Yoda was depressed longer than any of them and was arguably more responsible for the whole Jedi downfall bc of his strong connection to the force and being in a leadership role. He just chose not to use the force and be a hermit. These hack writers can’t think of ways to have powerful characters interact with new/weaker characters so they just say, “oh well they don’t have force powers anymore”…drama…

[@DOOM_guyEditz433]

The whole cutting yourself off from the force thing is such a get out of jail free card

[@hk1371]

The only really good way it was done was in KoTOR 2 where it was done out of a need of survival for the main character after witnessing so much death in their past that it would have killed them had they not (Accidentally) cut themselves off right then and there.

[@christopherbravo1813]

really, it's just a way for them to justify these established characters being lame.

[@UnendedGalaxy]

What’s especially pathetic is that Luke and Obi-Wan are both characters who would not do such a thing if they are in character, because there’s a lot riding on these two. Obi-Wan should be retaining his understanding of the Force rather than giving up simply to train Luke or protect him, and Luke himself should absolutely not call quits when that is antithetical. What we get instead, is a putrid approach at storytelling.

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@UnendedGalaxy yes, but you have to understand, they're *men.* men *cannot* be allowed to do *anything* unless a woman can do it better. that's just how it works.

[@MichaelB-jw5po]

I've never watched this show but man, seeing Obi-wan kneel in surrender in front of three stormtroopers while he has a lightsaber on his belt and a blaster in his hand is so infuriating

[@Warm_and_loveable]

Never watched this show but my kenobi is Guinness. Walked thru the whole death star no problem.

[@tanner201x8]

Ok so do you guys want stormtroopers to be fodder or threats?

[@aussiestinger1517]

@@tanner201x8I mean, it’s not about that. Yes, they should be a bit more threatening and all that, but if you watched the prequels, obi-wan straight up decimated several clone troopers. Bear in mind, clones are purpose-bred for combat, unlike the imperial cost-saving measure that storm troopers are. A level of disconnect is apparent there, so that’s why it doesn’t make much sense.

[@Passw0rdYT]

​@@tanner201x8both. They're meant to be both. Storm troopers are threatening to a jedi because of their numbers. And in a scene where their numbers are just 3, they should not be threatening to a jedi in the slightest

[@tanner201x8]

@ Fair.

[@olliegodfrey482]

Remember in Clone Wars when Yoda underwent various trials in order to learn how to become a force spirit. Well imagine if this show followed a similar journey with Obi Wan where he confronts his past trauma through various Visions.

[@brentkoivopolo6200]

Obi-Wan S2, 3, etc all the way to Kenobi series during ANH played by actor who looks similar to Alec Guiness like the Father from the 5th Element.

[@brentkoivopolo6200]

I want to see Kenobi and Maul's final duel in Live Action!

[@LipziG3R]

Yeah but then the Obi-Wan show would actually have to be about Obi-Wan ... We can't have that.

[@poobread8885]

With like an ascetic inner journey and stuff that would be cool

[@drobinson-uo7ic]

The Sith inquisitors looking like live action Dick Tracy villains

[@shamrock5059]

I know leia outrunning barry Allen was a joke, but based on that show, that very well could be the case. Flash has a nasty habit of letting bad guys run away at normal speed

[@morenicginiusthegreat4227]

It really is the funniest habit.

[@thephoenix4093]

tehnically its not outrunning because barry would just stand and stare at her instead of running.

[@Xxgxxaxx]

Barry: there’s no where to run Leia walks off screen Barry: I wasn’t fast enough

[@zqninja3334]

She would break his ankles!

[@NickChad]

The best part is when someone runs out a door and vanishes from existence. The flash can search an entire city block in seconds but if someone goes out a door, well, what's he going to do? Check every direction from that door in a split second? Come on man. He's got to look around slowly while the camera zooms in on the defeated expression on his face 😅

[@KarazolaX]

It's amazing to me that Reva was able to stage a kidnapping on a senator's daughter, she was able to go THAT far in hopes that he'd go try to get Obi-wan to save Leia, but she didn't think to try and MONITOR HIS COMMUNICATIONS, or TRACK HIS MOVEMENTS. The dude literally travels to tatooine and finds Obi wan's poverty cave, and gets back to Alderaan and if she'd made any attempt to track him and see where he went or who he tried to call, she could have confirmed his link to Obi wan and easily found him.

[@raylast3873]

Mara Jade would have needed five minutes for this job.

[@Elyseon]

It's almost like Reva is badly written trash and only exists for ESG score and pandering.

[@connerclark3678]

I’m sure Reva tried, but apparently Bail was using NordVPN

[@raylast3873]

@@connerclark3678 😂

[@timbirdie8180]

​@@Elyseonu mean ur a. Racist incel got it

[@ShudowWolf]

I like to think Leia's smart lines were written by her actress, while all her dumb lines (i.e. the rest of the dialogue) were written by the normal lines

[@chasehedges6775]

Good point.

[@Volvith]

She just improvised all the good parts of her character on the spot. ... _Because even she could write a better show without even trying than the writers who very clearly made their debut on a fan-fiction forum._

[@grumpysphinx4911]

​@@Volvith Don't diss all fanfic writers like that, there are plenty who could have done a WAY better job than the actual writers of this show

[@sladeallen7453]

The lines were written by the lines?

[@SunshowerWonderlab]

​@@sladeallen7453yes, try to keep up

[@SheevTalks]

Other than all that I loved it

[@chasehedges6775]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@chasehedges6775]

@@MattewOsias 💯

[@chasehedges6775]

@@MattewOsias 👍. Yep

[@thegamingagent6822]

I hope you mention how the writers didn't know that Obi-Wan knew Anikan was Darth Vader...

[@secondaccount5978]

@@thegamingagent6822 WHAT

[@KarazolaX]

What they could have done with Obi Wan, was make him not outwardly have given up, but so focused on hiding and concealing his emotions that he inadvertently becomes apathetic towards the people surrounding him, and over the course of the show just have him realize his mistakes and overcome this fault

[@Volvith]

Yes, but that would require emotional maturity, insight into how people actually work, and the ability to write a clear and consistent story-line that spans more than a quarter of an episode. Which conveniently, are qualities the writers don't possess, seeing as they made their grand debut writing Star Wars fan-fiction on circle-jerk forums in their bedrooms in 2007. I have seen better writing out of actual high-school students, _and they plagiarized using ChatGPT._ I would be let down by the writers, hadn't i already hit rock bottom with the first star-wars sequel.

[@phangkuanhoong7967]

that's a show i'd watch.

[@MasterIceyy]

Honestly, I wanted Jedi hunter Obi-Wan, I remember seeing a comic story about how he had to hunt down a few Jedi who discovered Luke and Leia's existence and to ensure their safety he had to hunt down and kill some of the very few remaining brothers and sisters he had left in the galaxy, on the hope that Luke or Leia would be able to bring balance to the force. I think it would have been a really great exploration into Obi-Wan, his moral dilemma, and personal conflict over his actions

[@Silentraddish]

​@@MasterIceyysounds heretical obiwan is no sith

[@MasterIceyy]

@@Silentraddish He's not, I'm pretty sure in the story Qui-Gon tells Obi-Wan that some Jedi, found the droid that helped Padme give birth and was now actively looking for the children, thus Obi-Wan had to set aside his morals and honour to do what he felt was right to fulfil the prophecy and restore balance to the force through Luke

[@Philipp3022]

"General Kenobi, years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars." - "oh yeah and you saved me when they kidnapped me to trap you for Darth Vader but anyways"

[@shanehudson3995]

Considering Bail didn't fight in the Clone Wars...that's always been a weird line since the PT.

[@sirpepeofhousekek6741]

​@@shanehudson3995It's like George Lucas didn't even watch his own work.

[@sadchild9478]

@@shanehudson3995there’s literally an episode of the clone wars where obi wan and Anakin send supplies to Bail as he’s pinned down by droids. So the line still works.

[@shanehudson3995]

@sadchild9478 I don't think "Served my father during the clone wars" was meant to be interpreted as "served him dinner".

[@kingt0295]

⁠@@sadchild9478 is that the blockade episode in season one with the stealth ship I can’t remember it’s been like 10 years since I watched that show lol

[@ltb1345]

What's fascinating to me, is that comparing the Kenobi book to this show perfectly illustrates the difference between Legends and Disney Canon.

[@theketaminefrog6366]

It's almost like these "Virgin vs Chad" memes

[@coreymckee4844]

@@theketaminefrog6366 its EXACTLY like that..😑

[@WeirwoodNet]

Legends was never canon

[@theketaminefrog6366]

@@WeirwoodNet It was officially canon, regardless of what Disney is saying

[@WeirwoodNet]

@@theketaminefrog6366 don't think it was was it and that had come from George himself so get off high horse

[@lindseyfaelan8339]

Ladies and gentlemen. For those who ever feared that their own writing might not be good enough... I present to you, the concept and script of the Obi Wan series. Proof that even us amateur writers can do better than a multi billion dollar corporation.

[@Angrenost02]

Ngl, I have written better stories for my TTRPG sessions

[@quantumvideoscz2052]

Wanna hear the dumbest part? Why on earth would Bail Organa ask Kenobi for help when he knows Obi-Wan is guarding Luke? "But he thought only a Jedi would be enough!" you might say. Yeah... Remind me again, who was running his intelligence services? Fulcrum, was it? And who the heck is Fulcrum? At this point in time, none other than Ahsoka Tano... So... a Jedi... Who regularly goes on missions if need be... So... why not ask the Jedi you literally already employ instead of one who has his mission AND doesn't want to help you?

[@SeviathTheHumanDrago]

"The stars! Can't do it, all wrong, stars."

[@GhostLink92]

I can see the argument that Rosario Dawson is too old to play Ahsoka at the age she'd be in Kenobi, but still the question remains. All he has to say is that his other agent is busy, and Kenobi is his only shot. Actually, is he even aware she's alive? I'm pretty sure the last time they met was when Coruscant was invaded. I don't think it breaks Rebels continuity for Bail to tell Ben she's alive. (not that this show gives 2 fucks about Rebels' continuity)

[@thatguywhosayshi7021]

“Ashoka is a grey Jedi 🤓”

[@Сайтамен]

@@GhostLink92 Tales of the Jedi just confirmed that she works directly with him at this point...

[@tfox1231]

Because it had to do with rescuing the daughter of Anakin. At the time, the fact that the children of the chosen one/ the galaxy's hope lived was only known by Bail, Obi-Wan, Yoda, and R2. Obi-Wan was the best option. Yoda would have been caught if he left Dagobah so Obi-Wan was the best option.

[@nittonama3]

i never thought id live in a world where id get an obi-wan series, i also never thought id live to not care.

[@chasehedges6775]

Disney screwed up soooo hard with this and it’s hilarious and depressing

[@chasehedges6775]

👍👍👍. They did

[@eloryosnak4100]

The idea that Obi-Wan decided to cut himself off to make drama in the show, instead of the much more interesting (and hilariously better fitting with the actual writing) option that he's ridiculously paranoid about everything, and therefore losing control of his powers to a degree

[@besserwizard]

I am actually a fan of Rebels. It took me some time to realize that this man is supposed to be the Grand Inquisitor and I only now realize (while watching the video) that the other dude should be the fifth brother. I think that says a lot about how well they adapted these two characters…

[@Iluvatar196]

Ok come on the show is bad but let's be real theres no way you'd mistake that ugly bald head

[@Bandog23]

Bruh

[@fiddlesticks7245]

...you liked that shit? You need to get a vasectomy

[@MrDwarfpitcher]

I am not a fan of Rebels, but yeah at first I thought too "Hey, this guy is probably of the same race as the Grand Inquisitor." Then I saw the bad acting and learned that this was just some poor attempt. Now with the video I learn it wasn't a poor attempt, more like a lazy 're-imagining of the character'

[@tr4480]

"Adapted"? Surely you can't be serious. The actors portraying those two inquisitors proudly established they didn't read up or study the Rebels Incarnation of those characters, demonstrating they had no respect for the way the characters had been developed by others. When you have preestablished characters you adapt to that character, you don't adapt the character to you. Being able to portray the character as it was originally created while minimizing the changes you make is a show of talent and respect for yourself and for the creators of that character. If it took you some time to realize what the character was, that should a be hint and a half for you right there. There was no adapting!

[@SparkyofHouseMoist]

let’s also talk about how aside from Andor and Mando season 1 the cinematography in these live action star wars shows have been abysmal

[@HallyVee]

What, you don't like combat through editing?

[@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk]

Andor had great shots and i'm a sucker for that because it allows actually talented people to make cool edits or star wars tributes. I hope dudufilm is still going to make some video's and would love it for him to use some shots from andor.

[@HallyVee]

@@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk and presumably he doesn't meat Rogue One either.

[@flareboy41]

The shaky cams and the stupid poor lighting during the vader and kenobi fight scene was so horrendous

[@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk]

@@flareboy41 agreed

[@the-trustees]

This idea that Obi-Wan was waiting to train Luke. They trained kids WAY younger than Luke in the temple and stressed that early learning was beneficial. Luke was planning to leave Tattoine and join the academy. When exactly was Obi-Wan going to train him?

[@MomoTheDisciple]

Yeah i don’t get how this doesn’t ruin the plot

[@the-trustees]

@Momo After Dark Everything the evil mouse touches tarnishes the nostalgia they think will earn them money. It is quite nice to see them not only failing to profit off of other peoples' successes, but ALSO that they are creating a two generation nostalgia void that they will be very unhappy to inherit from. THEMSELVES! 🤣 Where oh where will they get their ideas when all they have to plunder is their own failures. 🤔

[@youwayo]

I thought Owen didn’t want Obi-Wan to train Luke.

[@the-trustees]

@youwayo It's true. Owen prevented OW from being any part of Luke's life, which is why he knew nothing of the force and very little of the Empire and the rebellion.

[@louisminati]

Yoda claimed to Obi Wan in Empire Luke was too old. He likely made up for this by surviving a near death experience with Vader, which exposed his lack of training at the time.

[@thefoxamongwolves9843]

I'm 100% sure Obi Wan knew Anakin was alive. He literally watches Sideous dub him Darth Vader. Then after he left Anakin to die, a dude clad in black armor named Darth Vader appears as Sideous' right hand man. He'd have to be stupid not to make the connection. And of course he does, hence why he knows who Vader is in A New Hope. Edit: I shoulda waited 1 minute lol, made my point

[@stangsandwangs258]

Lol I never thought about that

[@redaxer2908]

To be fair the state he left Anakin in was terrible to say the least and he didn't learn his lesson with Maul.

[@MageofSwords]

The way they had it work in the EU is that Obi-Wan didn't even hear about Vader still being alive until several months of being on Tatooine.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@MageofSwordsYeah, at the ceremony commemorating his introduction to the galaxy.

[@PickledShark]

Ok, so I have pneumonia right now, and I have to thank you for what you did here, because when you showed that clip of Rey saying “I never knew so much green existed in the galaxy” while staring at a green screen, and Harrison ford just looking at her like she’s pathetic, and he’s not sure why he’s part of this movie, I stated laughing so hard that it sent me into an extreme coughing fit that produced more phlegm than I’ve gotten up in days. So yeah, thank you.

[@BrentButler]

Ughhh I think I had finally recovered from this show and now… now it’s all coming back to me

[@chasehedges6775]

Same

[@markgrehan3726]

It's odd how many times in the Star Wars Saga the "I didn't mess up I meant for them to escape" reason pops up to explain plot holes, in New Hope it works but other than that it looks like an afterthought.

[@linuxwizzerd5908]

it works in A New Hope because there was an actual reason for Vader to let them go; here it's just "it was in the thing you liked so it should work here too"

[@ltmaid]

The stormtroopers not paying attention to the morning brief on which Jedi they are looking for last seen on a different planet is the most believable thing in this show 1:38:45

[@Dragonseer666]

Also, why are there literally NO aliens in the jedi temple. Like, yeah we can have maybe even a majority human population, but there should be just way more aliens.

[@nicholasleclerc1583]

They only had 25 million $, you idiot; are you so privileged in life you have no idea how little money that is ? >: ( Then again, I guess prosthetic face artists and the like _are_ being heavily marginalized & exploited a lot these days... : / Also, smth smth Biden, smth smth muh inflation, amirite ? HAHAHAHAHAHA LOL, BRANDON MAN BAAAAD XD 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@calumlittle9828]

Aliens don't count towards ESG scores.

[@kutless45]

When the Grand Inquisitor got stabbed, I thought that that meant that the Grand Inquisitor in Rebels must have been a different guy from the same species and that differences in look could be attributed to being a different race of the same species. Then he came back alive miraculously.

[@mikeoxlong1395]

But he has two stomachs. Yes i am being sarcastic.

[@kutless45]

@@mikeoxlong1395 is that really the excuse they gave?

[@mikeoxlong1395]

@@kutless45 I can't confirm myself, i heard that from Mauler and i'm certain Sheev mentions it at one point.

[@Random_alias_JP-tl5xz]

One year later and Andor showed us that character studies in SW can just work absolutely perfect

[@EskChan19]

What character study? Andor is literally just Andor being an asshole and people telling him "Don't worry one day you will sacrifice yourself because that movie already happened". I really don't understand why people keep sucking this shows cock so much. Andor was worse than Kenobi.

[@b.p.879]

You have typed truth here this day.

[@fiddlesticks7245]

Didn't that show suck ass? You should be ashamed of yourself for still giving disney a chance.

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

This, 100%

[@idontcare9661]

And barely anyone watched it compared to Obi Wan, that’s why we don’t get good stuff often

[@SpeakerTerenus]

Every time some new Star Wars media comes out I get dozens of hours of great internet content like this. Star Wars itself is a joke now, but man; can't deny this new era does come with some perks...

[@tommymolyneaux3766]

I'm unironically more excited for episode 2 of this than I was for any episode of the Kenobi series

[@darthbango1999]

Jimmy Smits just DOES NOT AGE. Seeing his Order 66 scene juxtaposed with the OWK scene is crazy. I think our senator has learned the pathway to immortality.

[@chasehedges6775]

Loved him in Revenge Of The Sith

[@macree01]

@@chasehedges6775you loved him? Isn’t he in like 10 collective minutes of the finished film?

[@macree01]

Yes, unfortunately you need have a not atomized body in order to enjoy immortality.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@macree01 He gave a good performance in a good movie. Simple as that. 👍

[@macree01]

@@chasehedges6775 Bail Organa is one of those side characters like Mon Mothma, there just isn’t enough personally for me to rate the performance. It’s a glorified cameo in my eyes. I realize narratively there’s a lot there. Because this character sides with the Jedi over the emerging Empire and because he is Leias future adoptive dad. But practically, he’s just there in a few scenes with a few lines.

[@awesomegaymer5786]

I still find it insane that they didn't use imperial march or the force theme, like even the rise of Skywalker didn't mess up the music this bad

[@Basspro69]

To be honest the sequel’s had some pretty damn good music 🎶.

[@bt3743]

im glad they didnt. Im sick to death of the imperial march

[@ItsAstie]

@@bt3743 ur opinion sucks

[@phantom2683]

@@bt3743 No way

[@Tmtrnr22]

@@Basspro69 Facts. There were entire theories deconstructing leitmotifs from the sequels and what they could mean.. Like similarities in Reys and Palpatines theme.. oh wait! John Williams did that on purpose because he‘s actually clever and can communicate storytelling without blatantly saying in your face: „You‘re Palpatine‘s granddaughter 🤓“ -Also: The sequels atleast looked grand and had meaningful-looking shots and scenes even if that was not the case. The cinematography was great for them and these newer star wars shows just fucking suck in that aspect

[@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312]

It’s kinda crazy that Starkiller does a better job of hiding that he’s a Jedi than Obi Wan At least he doesn’t wear Jedi looking robes and most of his outfits fit in the area he’s in pretty well

[@Balevolt]

Could you Imagine Leia getting rescued by stormtroopers as a small child. Thats the kind of thing to change ones worldview. I was also under the assumption that she didn't know she was adopted

[@jacquelineking5783]

Eh Luke did ask her if she remembered her real mother way back in Return of the Jedi so isn't particularly lore breaking that she knows she is adopted.

[@calclips]

What?

[@fasillimerick7394]

When J J Abrams was hired to make Star Trek (2009) he admitted he wasn't a fan. However, he was told "respect the characters, ignore the fans". Leaving aside how well he did or did not accomplish that feat, the people who made Kenobi apparently did neither.

[@FsmashJohn]

Well when jj abrams made a new hope he obviously didn’t respect shittyttt

[@bellissimo4520]

@@FsmashJohn Abrams destroyed the OG trilogy with the opening crawl of TFA, telling us that the ending of "Return of the Jedi" was meaningless now. Not to mention all the other plotholes he readily created. He is the destroyer of franchises. Ruin Johnson only rode on his tail, but Abrams laid all the groundwork. He's a fucking talentless hack that can only create mystery boxes but never deliver any satisfying, clever answers.

[@ToxicallyMasculinelol]

Abrams' adaptations were always influenced by the contemporary culture, which certainly harmed them. The emotional lability and childish outbursts in Star Trek 2009 are a great example of that. Films are always products of their times, and there was a lot of cultural change between 1966 and 2009. What we consider a normal person, what becomes the baseline for writing dialogue and character behavior in a film, is radically different today than it was in 1966. We have quite different expectations of characters. In 1966, a man screaming uncontrollably would have been laughed at. Today, it's just drama. It comes down to the loss of social norms and taboos, that's always going to creep into our media. And a hero is just a normal person plus some heroic qualities. Since self-discipline isn't expected anymore, it's no longer idealized in our media. Which is unfortunate, because while culture informs films, films also influence the culture, and they can reinforce negative trends like the degradation of our understanding of virtue, the trivialization of etiquette, etc. But all of this is largely unconscious, so it's hard to blame someone like Abrams for it. Some filmmakers do a great job of consciously avoiding this, and can even convincingly write ancient characters for example. But that's really, really rare. So I don't really fault Abrams for having internalized our contemporary character defects and unknowingly incorporating them into his adaptations of e.g. Spock, even though it contradicts Spock's well-established nature as a Vulcan (self-discipline being one of their defining traits). But I think these more recent franchise films and TV shows are very different. I think they have an express agenda. They aren't letting contemporary culture creep into their work and distort established characters. They are intentionally deforming established characters. They are even hiring the original actors (like Ewan McGregor and Mark Hamill) to reprise their roles, yet asking them to behave completely different. Just look at the pathetic, cowardly way Ewan carries himself physically in this show. He literally runs like a scared little girl, constantly hunched over, his wrists flapping limply at his sides. That doesn't happen by accident. If you asked him to play Kenobi, he would obviously naturally play the same character he played in the prequel trilogy. Since that's what he practiced for. To get him to behave in this grotesque way, you'd need to give him constant direction. You'd need to yell "cut" and correct him every time he instinctively acts like a man. The fact that they put so much effort into degrading and inverting these characters, even with the original actors, tells me that none of this is accidental. I can't say what exactly is their ultimate goal, but it seems to me they are trying to alter what we (the audience) understand heroism to be. They want to change our role models. Which means they want to change how we act, behave, think, and feel. It would not surprise me if they simply think this will make the male population more docile and less likely to revolt. Which will be important in coming years, as the banks buy up all the houses, as the great oligarchic powers increasingly want us all to crowd ourselves into rental apartments and live like peasants. I'm reminded of the bank robbery trope, where the bank robber says to all the patrons, "Everybody get down. Nobody try to be a hero." With each generation, our concept of heroism erodes a little more. It's already lost the quality of self-discipline, which can be seen in Star Trek's childish outbursts and tantrums. What more will it lose? Will there come a day when it is considered heroic to sit down, shut up, and make room for more important people? Isn't that kind of what they're getting at when they race swap characters anyway? The diversity agenda feels a lot like a vehicle for the domestication of white men. Convince them that the most heroic thing they can do is to go extinct or be subservient to the great idols of the new religion, and I guess it's a lot less likely that they will organize in armed resistance. So, frankly, it does seem plausible to me that the reason these adaptations are always so bad in exactly the same ways is because it's a social engineering effort. I really can't understate how important movies and TV shows are for culture, and especially for what we revere and idolize. These are our role models. If we are taught to model ourselves after Ewan McGregor in the Kenobi show, that is going to have a major effect. A single TV show won't have much effect, sure. Most people will completely reject it the first time they're exposed to these inverted role models. But we are inundated with a constant stream of this crap. Eventually, little bits and pieces are going to get through your armor. After multiple generations, the influence will be undeniable. The reason these soulless reboots and rehashes always castrate beloved male characters and introduce new female characters to handle the actual action is because that's how they want us to behave. They want men (the only people who can actually overthrow tyranny) to know their place, and they want women to act like how men used to act. Also probably helps to control population growth. And maybe the masculinization of women helps to demoralize men. These are just conjectures, of course. But what I'm absolutely certain of is that, unlike the flaws in Abrams' work, the character assassination in Disney Star Wars (and in many other franchises, like Amazon's Rings of Power) is intentional. One can only guess at what the intention is, but there absolutely IS an intention of some kind, with 100% certainty.

[@infamous6283]

​@@ToxicallyMasculinelolyou're 100% correct this is all by design

[@callmeej8399]

MauLer isn’t getting around to write a thorough critique, I’m glad you took up the mantle and addressed this abortion of a script

[@bevvvy1374]

I don't blame him after that behemoth Doctor Strange video

[@GhostLink92]

I mean, they covered it on EFAP. not the same, I know, but at least it was addressed in some form.

[@Mr_Sunday_Gary]

@@GhostLink92 can’t prove it, but it kinda seems like half this video is ripped from that podcast.

[@MultiKbarry]

@@Mr_Sunday_Gary there’s a difference between taking inspiration and input from another’s work and ripping off.

[@HoodedLord]

Hey now abortions are legitimate medical procedures done by professionals, no need to disparage their hard work by comparing it to this... utterly deficient and incompetently cobbled together medical waste bin

[@flareboy41]

How you explained obi wan would've learned about vader is exactly how it happened in the Vader book, leading him to finally be able to communicate with qui gon. It's so annoying Disney doesn't use the books for ideas. The damn obi wan book story was really good. It showed how obi wan tried to fit in to being a hermit on Tatooine but found it very hard cuz he missed the being a jedi and always getting involved in things

[@dominickeijzer5844]

Well, they *do* use books and comics for ideas. They just leave out any of the good bits.

[@leonidaspereirafilho499]

What vook and comic is that?

[@flareboy41]

@leonidaspereirafilho499 obi wan book is called Kenobi and the vader book is The Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader

[@berylredburrow__8810]

Okay, but seriously. Darth Vader is now fully aware that Organa has ties to not only a hiding Jedi, but one of if not the most infamous Jedi alive, whom Vader has a massive personal connection with. Why is organa not immediately arrested and force mind raped for information???

[@wilsonkelman986]

Ew what the fuck kind of expression is that.

[@username45739]

True, but these plot holes started way back in ANH where Vader didn't recognize Tatooine - somehow the nuWars critics are almost always oblivious to this, which is quite amusing.

[@edwardbayfield1401]

@@username45739 To be fair what Beryl is talking about is a much larger plot hole than Vader simply not recognising Tatooine.

[@username45739]

@@edwardbayfield1401 Idk, maybe it's larger

[@edwardbayfield1401]

@@username45739 even if Vader realised it was the same planet he grew up on what difference does it make?

[@SydneyPawYT]

i hated Riva she had no motive in the finale for attacking luke other than just for the kick of it also she was literally stabbed and left to die in the previous episode yet somehow she is just fine?!? edit: ok some people may think that this comment is motivated by racism it isn't its the character themself the way they were written that i'm mad about if they had the decency to care about a actual plotline or decent story for her and her character rather than a mess of this happens and then this and then this and then this with no rhyme or reason this show single handedly ruined star wars i was excited to see it but now it just feels bland and boring the entire show is a waste of time

[@Xehanort10]

Her whole character was just "screams and wants to kill Obi-Wan." She was only made a survivor of Anakin's Jedi temple massacre to try to force sympathy for her. Then Disney do what they always do when a minority character gets criticised for reasons unrelated to that and called people racist for not liking Reva. They went back on killing her off for fear of people calling them racist.

[@SydneyPawYT]

@@Xehanort10 lmaooooo, so they literally retconned the crap out of her

[@XakTerrible]

Careful, dude, you don't want anyone thinking you're racist.

[@ShudowWolf]

​@@SydneyPawYT I liked her in the first episode. She had, in my opinion, a good presence with shit fellow inquisitors. I hated her as soon as I realized, as @Xehanort10 put it, she's just "Lemme kill Obi XD" and the inquisitors just...what the fuck did they mix up the script with a crime thriller where the criminals keep telling them not to blow the whistle? That's the only option that is even 1% correct. They're not Jedi Sympathizers wasting Imperial resources and forging Jedi deaths so can't go with that. they had some backstory but they wasted it by waiting 6 episodes. A good writer knows how information adds tension, rather than takes away from it. a Hack writes things as they go without editing. It reminds me of the Lost in Space Netflix (Episode 1 so not really spoilers.) Throughout the episode, there's a robot that's endlessly chasing the child and the rest of the family is stranded because the space station was destroyed and they to use escape pods. Fine setup, but kid is just running from a robot that doesn't seem that scary. End of the episode shows a legion of the robots slaughtering the Humans in the aforementioned space station, revealing they were the ones to attack and the kid should've been scared. If that 'flashback' was just the episode start, it would've made the chase scene much better in both tension, impact and scare. It adds the needed context so the robot at the end of the episode helping them leads to questions a good writer can answer like "Is this a deviant? Are they all deviants with corrupted programming and McAfee Anti-Virus finally got off its lazy ass and deleted the virus? Are they okay with life but Humanity got close to say an ancient precursor?" That episode was, in all seriousness, truly an episode of all time. The characters were distinct and alright, the plot made sense and the conflict otherwise well-established, even if it didn't grab me. Move that in front of the show, I'd have confidence in the writers. Kenobi truly is one of WORST shows of all time with budget and starpower. It is a dumpster fire of wtf. The actors were good and that's it. No logic, common sense fucking ANYTHING. I checked. The Writer had NOTHING of note he wrote. If you have confidence in him, give him a show like Andor. Low stakes and if it's bad, who cares? Why aren't you grabbing your A+++ writers for fucks sake on this shit. Kenobi will draw in all the viewers by it being about a beloved character alone. How the fuck do you anti-manage it to the point where I honestly question if Disney is trying to kill Star Wars at this point. Judging by the first episode of Andor alone, that is a negative because that show has a plot end of sentence, unlike Obi-Wan. I entered rant territory but I mean everything I said.

[@stevescruby1343]

Yeah how did she survive being stabbed?

[@ProjectIcarusFE]

Vader in the comics: “All I am surrounded by is fear… and dead men” Vader in Kenobi: “no u”

[@TheDevilinThePaleMoonlight]

If they were gonna do a kenobi show it should've simply been a character study of both kenobi and Vader running parallel to eachother. It would've worked exceedingly well had they simply showed us the struggles of kenobi to find self worth on backwater planet and his attempts to contact qui gon thru the force. They could've shown him fighting off raiders and pirates while struggling not to use the force and bring unwanted attention. Then on the other hand, we see Vader still trying to find obi Wan as he ruthlessly and personally runs thru jedi after jedi in hiding, using any methods he can to obtain information. We can see his struggles to understand and deal with his injuries, his uncomfortable suit, and his weekly dead skin removals as all those things breed even more hate for kenobi and make him more powerful in the dark side. These are just ideas that are off the top of my head and I'm not even a huge star wars fan. I like star wars but I've never bought a single piece of merchandise or read anything from eu. I'm just a normal fan and I would rather have watched something I came up with myself in 5 minutes than the lore breaking garbage that Disney thru up all over the screen. It's not hard to write stories when the characters already have plenty of traits and background to pull from and it's not hard to adhere to continuity when u already know what ultimately happens before u write ur first sentence on the page. Star wars should be an easy win almost everytime. I see regular fans writing easy slam dunks (such as this one) in comment sections all the time. It's utterly baffling how bad Disney has fucked up a franchise that could easily be printing money like the FED.

[@edwardbayfield1401]

Ngl I feel like using the force to hold people in place is a pretty cheap force power and one which the writers should avoid using at all costs especially between force users. If Master Yoda the most powerful Jedi struggles to lift a massive stone column in EP2 and rocks in EP5 which are both objects which are aren't resisting at all, then other force users shouldn't be able to trap living struggling creatures in place effortlessly.

[@jimmytecker]

eh, difference between lifting a rock and holding a shirt.

[@sadchild9478]

I totally agree. It completely ruins any lightsaber fight, because you can just hold someone in place or their lightsaber in place and then stab them. It’s a stupid idea to put that in a fight scene.

[@Kai-Xi]

Despite knowing it wouldn't happen, after Reva stabbed the Grand Inquisitor, I thought it would be hilarious if another Pau'an showed up as his replacement, but this one would actually look like he does in Rebels, making the initial bad costume a fake-out.

[@Idazmi7]

THAT would be incredibly brilliant in the meanest possible way. 😆

[@JoeFilms5420]

When you see a two hour video labelled as "part one," you know you're in for a treat.

[@jayhartRIC]

That first scene with the Jedi temple attack completely telegraphed that Reva was at the Jedi temple. It is baffling that they didn’t cut it out. It’s bad enough people already guessed it by how much she was featured in the trailer. It actually could have been interesting if they went the other way and have the audience know Reva was trying to infiltrate the Sith. She could have been struggling with having to do horrible things to get to Vader and having to avoid suspicion. That would have made for a character with actual stakes since we know Obiwan and Leia cant die at this point.

[@bawkslawd]

Disney Star Wars reads a lot like "This happens, and then this happens" rather than good writing like "This happens, therefore this happens"

[@ryanmcamis7419]

It's also important to note, Darth Vader gave subordinates at least two chances to correct his or her errors before killing them. He still accepts your apology with your death. He had a three strikes you're put policy, and the dudes he's killing are screwing up really badly. They snatched defeat from the jaws of victory and Vader rewards your incompetence with death.

[@delmarfrazier2727]

Exactly nobody really knew Vader was Palpateen right hand man! Imperials disrespected him and the Emperor had royal guards! Vader was a ghost 👻

[@thejemstone9219]

​@delmarfrazier2727 but everyone knows who Vader is. From generic Rebel soldiers, to stormtroopers, to Imperial Officers, Vader is far from a ghost. Mara Jade is significantly more ghostly than Vader.

[@katya261]

Thank you for saying what you said about practical effects. I am so tired of Star Wars looking outright bad because everyone insists Computer Bad Puppet Good.

[@haydentravis3348]

I'm pissed shaky cam made a comeback. For a blissful decade I was able to watch mainstream media without having to close my eyes and look away to avoid headaches.

[@vaggos2003]

Three's a crowd, my friend. An awesome crowd. Let me imagine that I'm hugging you and Sheev Talks right now.

[@kirby7294]

1:25:00 If I remember correctly, that's exactly how Obi-Wan learned Vader was alive initially. Whilst sitting in a cantina on Tatooine, an Imperial news broadcast began playing, and in it, they mentioned, "Darth Vader." To which Kenobi learned of Anakin's survival.

[@43435fghrsdsdfgf]

In Legends Comic yeah

[@Aaron-fb6mb]

I remember that book. Gave me fucking chills. I don’t remember if it was the Vader book or the Kenobi book itself though

[@Aaron-fb6mb]

He almost fainted upon hearing the name

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

⁠@@Aaron-fb6mbIt was a Vader book called Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader. A personal favorite of mine.

[@Aaron-fb6mb]

@@Lobsterwithinternet thanks!

[@asaknight321]

As a fan of rebels they truly did grand inquisitor and 5th brother so dirty except for the voice of 5th brother. It didn't fully fit him but it made him a little better

[@chasehedges6775]

As a casual Star Wars fan, they DID EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE wrong and dirty. This is one of the most mediocre things that have ever seen.

[@logankelley99]

His voice is infinitely better in Rebels, I highly recommend rewatching his scenes

[@joeymobb8438]

Brother, you can’t say “Everyone and Everything” was done dirty and then call it “mediocre”. Just say it’s bad. It’s ok! You’re among friends here.

[@asaknight321]

@@joeymobb8438 okay then, it's bad and I wish this show did better

[@asaknight321]

@@logankelley99 rewatching it now yeah plus I love his tone in rebels since it fits better

[@superswiftpics]

Can't wait for the she hulk review "She-hulk murdered my wife and spit on my broken body."

[@morenicginiusthegreat4227]

Then she sued me for the emotional damage procured from committing murder.

[@seankerr2394]

That's such a great point about the series of Obi-Wan staying on Tattooine and Boba Fett galaxy hopping, instead of the other way around.

[@lenardchurch2338]

The Grand Inquisitor could've stayed a part of the show, he could've just taken the roll that Vader has and keep to shots that have his "imposing" status to direct the chucklefufs to do their jobs properly

[@KingoftheBashful]

I basically had no expectations when getting into this series, because Obi-Wan isn't a major favorite of mine, but I thought it would have been at least an alright time-waster. This show somehow made me more upset and disappointed than the Sequels. That in of itself is a accomplishment.

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯💯👍

[@programmedgamer7101]

That's a great point. Why the hell did Obi-Wan use Frek as a human shield? He's never done that with a bystander. It's literally a moleman just living his life. Christ.

[@oteila6151]

I just had a really cool idea for the bar scene: What if after throwing the knife it was still stopped mid air, but without the obvious hand from the jedi. The Inquisitors would just know the jedi is in the general area, and the grand inquisitor could give another cool speech about how pathetic the jedi are for adherring to their code while walking from person to person giving them intense eye contact. Youd think he would try to find the jedi that way but then he just gives a hand signal to which reva or the fifth brother just start executing people in the bar at random, to which then the jedi would reveal himself. He would still use the force to push reva, but because thats a bigger feat in the force he would use the obvious gesture to channel it. Hed use the momentum to run away since he knows theyre only after him and him alone. I think its a cool idea and it would show the authority of zhe grand inquisitor even more and how ruthless the inquisitors really are, plus it would show how they are directly trained by vader, since he uses the same tactic later in the show

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Except that was a mischaracterization of Vader. Not to mention that would really piss off the Hutt Cartel.

[@mr.dr.prof.patrick7284]

i stopped getting invited to my friend groups obi wan watch party’s because all i would do was yell at the screen while they simply didn’t see an issue with the show

[@chasehedges6775]

You were the smart one. They were too blinded by nostalgia and Fanservice and stupidity to notice the flaws

[@mr.dr.prof.patrick7284]

@@chasehedges6775 facts bro like that scene when his lightsaber bounced off of storm trooper armor or when he held back the water from breaking the glass i was like “the fuck is this 😂😂😂😂” it broke my heart tho. Obi wan has been my (and probably a large majority of peoples) favorite star wars character. goes to show how much they care about their fans

[@chasehedges6775]

@@mr.dr.prof.patrick7284 💯💯. They care VERY little

[@bertimusprime7900]

Get smarter friends.

[@bt3743]

@@bertimusprime7900 or stop bitching about a show for kids

[@SuperMattman21]

I do think that when Obiwan left Anakin laying there on mustafar he did truly believe he had passed sometime quickly after he left, but he obviously knew everything in a new hope so yeah we should have seen when Obiwan learned that Anakin was alive quickly following the events of RotS

[@G.R-w9w]

but he knew that anakin was vader

[@capn_sarge]

How can you tell Leia's child actress that she has a very promising career ahead and not use the Palpatine scene in the background?! Otherwise great video, love this kind of long form content!

[@thatoneguy8146]

lol

[@thequietman95]

I love the point about how Bail should have gone to the Empire. As if, say, Wilhuff Tarkin wouldn’t have reacted with EXTREME VIOLENCE to an attack on an Imperial ruling family, regardless of his own feelings about them.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Not to mention Vader or Palpatine allowing one of their Inquisitors to go rogue or the Empire to look weak to the rest of the galaxy.

[@Bryzerse]

I'm always glad to be reminded that most of us truly hate this dumpster fire, very cathartic video. Great editing too.

[@johnselwitz5362]

Where has this channel been all my life? This is outstanding!

[@chasehedges6775]

Same. This video is just beautiful and wonderful

[@kreevisful]

I just found it today. Genuinely impressed. 👏

[@mastertheory4583]

Thank you, Sheev. for teaching me patience. I rarely write comments, but in this case I have something to say. After watching "Obi-Wan Shitmobi", I thought a lot about alternative ways that the creators could go to make the show better. And damn it, it took me less than a month to come up with at least three options that could also interest fans. The first option is an anthology series that tells about the adventures of Obi-Wan in different periods of time. I mean, that's what they do in canonical comics, and it's fun to read. Plus, a TON of fanservice could be inserted into it, in the person of Anakin, Qui-Gon, Yoda, and even Ahsoka, which in any case would benefit Disney. Yes, it would have to spend a lot of money, but hey, they already have $25 million for each episode. The second option allows the creators to bring Darth Vader and Obi-Wan together in a duel, while not breaking the canon - by testing the Force. Let Qui-Gon come to his padawan and show him the same path that Yoda showed in the Clone Wars. And Force, as we know, can do almost anything. In addition, such a variation would close the insistent plot hole. And the third option - just film the novel by John Jackson Miller! Yes, I know, it accelerates quite slowly, there is nothing there except Tatooine and Obi-Wan does not do anything extraordinary there (except for the battle with the krayt dragon), but it would be a very strong and emotional story that would also allow showing several strong female heroines (like Ennilyn or A'Yarg), Kenobi's emotional experiences and even save a lot on decorations and effects. If people liked "Book of Boba Fett", then such a show would also suit them. But no, instead they decided to make a story that tries to close the white holes of the Original Trilogy, after fundomentally breaking its plot.

[@maestrofeli4259]

people liked boba fett? I thought most people agreed that it was a mediocre show AT BEST

[@TheDevilinThePaleMoonlight]

If they were gonna do a kenobi show it should've simply been a character study of both kenobi and Vader running parallel to eachother. It would've worked exceedingly well had they simply showed us the struggles of kenobi to find self worth on backwater planet and his attempts to contact qui gon thru the force. They could've shown him fighting off raiders and pirates while struggling not to use the force and bring unwanted attention. Then on the other hand, we see Vader still trying to find obi Wan as he ruthlessly and personally runs thru jedi after jedi in hiding, using any methods he can to obtain information. We can see his struggles to understand and deal with his injuries, his uncomfortable suit, and his weekly dead skin removals as all those things breed even more hate for kenobi and make him more powerful in the dark side. These are just ideas that are off the top of my head and I'm not even a huge star wars fan. I like star wars but I've never bought a single piece of merchandise or read anything from eu. I'm just a normal fan and I would rather have watched something I came up with myself in 5 minutes than the lore breaking garbage that Disney thru up all over the screen. It's not hard to write stories when the characters already have plenty of traits and background to pull from and it's not hard to adhere to continuity when u already know what ultimately happens before u write ur first sentence on the page. Star wars should be an easy win almost everytime. I see regular fans writing easy slam dunks (such as this one) in comment sections all the time. It's utterly baffling how bad Disney has fucked up a franchise that could easily be printing money like the FED.

[@reyjimenz]

You watch KZbin too much.

[@ShudowWolf]

even if the last one failed, as long as it's faithful people can say "Yes it was bad but hey Disney really tried this time." I genuinely cannot say that about this collective of 42 minute items, each more worthless than the last.

[@Akiraspin]

Remember when "cut off from the force" was an incredibly painful and traumatizing experience akin to losing a limb or becoming blind in the EU? Only caused through extreme physical and spiritual trauma or genuinely mystical and esoteric exposure to powerful force techniques or extreme and violent death en-masse? Now you can just not use it for a while because you're a little sad and it atrophies to the point where even a Master is reduced to the strength of a youngling. Thanks Disney.

[@geraldapollyon655]

That was like, the CENTRAL POINT of KOTOR 2, the use of the Mass Shadow Generator which obliterated both the Mandalorian and Republic forces caused the Exile to cut herself off from the force because she was basically at ground zero of a Mass Extinction Event. That same super weapon also created Darth Nihilus, you know, the living wound in the force capable of scouring entire planets of life because he was basically a spirit inhabiting a suit of armor? God KOTOR 1 and 2 were awesome.

[@thebarefarmer6924]

I'm not sure if you address it later, but exactly WHY did Reva kidnap Organa's daughter? Did she have some insider blackmail knowledge that Anakin had kids who were being protected by Kenobi? Why did she think kidnapping the adopted daughter of a member of the galactic Republic was going to lure out an infamous hiding Jedi? And IF she did know that Kenobi was protecting Anakins long lost kids, why did she not go for the one closest to him?

[@Remix-pr4xd]

Also Bail was a Senator in a Galactic scale war. There had to be tons of Jedi who served under him. So was Reva going to keep kidnapping Leia until he sent the Jedi she wanted.

[@Captianmex1C0]

I think they explain that She knows bail was friends with Kenobi in the past or something. And from her point of view it would be quite the coincidence that this senators Friend was one of the only Jedi Survivors

[@AlekTrev006]

⁠@@Captianmex1C0 The major issue with this is that the show tries to suggest Reva is the FIRST / only ? Imperial agent to Ever think this connection idea up - not even Vader or Palpatine have pondered this possibility… only Reva, from ‘going through the old archives’… came up with this notion 🤔..

[@CinematicSeriesGaming]

This critique is legitimately 10x more entertaining than the actual show. Can't wait for Part 2!

[@8BitCyberWarrior]

Imagine receiving millions of dollars from Disney to write and act out your cringe fan fiction about star wars you wrote in high school, bad acting and directing included. That's the world we live in for some reason; utter incompetence supercedes craftsmanship, care, and artistic merit. How dystopian

[@dcarre]

Happy I didn’t subject myself to a story I wanted to see since I was a kid in 77’.

[@chasehedges6775]

As a 2001 kid, I'm not sure how to respond to this

[@nittonama3]

90s star wars fan here, same.

[@acenewholland564]

Vader letting obi wan escape to train himself is on dbs goku level of stupidity

[@shmaqzi9893]

It's funny how u mentioned that you think it's absurd obi wan didn't see vader on a news feed after all those years, because in a legends comic that's literally exactly how obi wan find out anakin is alive

[@charlespc]

I'm sorry for your Kidney lost. I love this videos and the titles of them xD. Subscribed already, you're gold with this videos!

[@Ender7j]

I know I’m late to the party…but the writers REALLY should have modeled this time in Ben’s life after the ronin of feudal Japan. Those former samurai who didn’t kill themselves out of shame and wandered the land as masterless warriors were some of the deadliest fighters in all of Japanese history. A missed opportunity IMO

[@raylast3873]

You could also literally copy the plot of some Korusawa movie for good measure. There‘s nothing wrong with a well-executed story clone. A bunch of Western Films did exactly that. For a franchise that has no idea what it‘s doing, this is far from the worst thing they could come up with.

[@tticusFinch]

Shoot man that sounds so good

[@Ender7j]

@@raylast3873 The Magnificent Seven is one, if I’m not mistaken…

[@justjoking5841]

Why Not have a Not-Star Wars SW Movie where a Knight and a Samurai Lightsaber fight each other, to the entertainment of Darth Jar Jar who shows up as the big bad at the end?

[@markdotinc8371]

​@@Ender7jwelp, Zack Snyder has now effectively done that, and it also sucks 😞

[@chaoslord8918]

3:34 "I decided to split this into two parts." Missed opportunity to use the clip of the stormtrooper getting cut in half by the laser fence.

[@lumbagoboi1649]

Kinda funny how everyone was coping hard praising this show and a month later literally everyone forgot it existed, same with book of boba lol Edit: they also chose a really bad place to do the story since obiwan is meant to be in hiding on tatooine doing nothing and the empire is so powerful that if obi were caught like he is there would be no escape.

[@toddpacker1015]

Trust me these 2 pieces of garbage will not get re-watched ever might as well be memory holed

[@EinFelsbrocken]

Cant wait to rewatch this while my 7y daughter screams "THIS IS ABSOLUTE IDIOCY" for hours on end 😊😊😇

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

I'm actually speechless. Didn't really realize this was just a year after _Solo_

[@Elemental-Phoenix]

I genuinely didn’t know for sure that the grand inquisitor here was the sane one as in rebels. Dude looks differently, moves differently, talks differently, it’s literally a different character

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

The most logical explanation I have is that they had at least two radically different drafts and ended up merging them into one extremely flawed mess. That's why Obi wants to train Luke despite being disconnected from the Force. That's why the script never takes the opportunity to make us sympathize with Reva, but the opposite (why torture Leia if she was tryna avenge the fallen Jedis?), only to reveal her as a redeemed villain because she restrained from killing Luke (when she had no reason to do it in the first place). Etc, etc. Like, things like the chasing scene, the robe scene, the Inquisitor's HQ having no defenses because "no one would dare attack"... those are lazyness, lack of talent, and time constrains (deadlines are usually awful for creativity). But, beyond that, there's something fundamentally wrong about this show's plot. Nothing makes any sort of sense, and it's at the cost of contradicting the original material or rendering it meaningless (like Vader's line to old Obi and all the character growth of Leia who apparently was born almost perfect).

[@LootFragg]

Writer: "The entrance is guarded by a legion of troopers with tanks and flying scout vessels that force Obi-Wan--" Studio: "No." Writer: "The entrance is guarded by a garrison of two squads of troopers with heavy weapons a--" Studio: "Too expensive." Writer: "The entrance is guarded by a dozen troopers--" Studio: "Three." Writer: "The entrance is guarded by three troopers but they have special augments that make them more eff--" Studio: "No additional props." Writer: "The augments are invisible but we have an establishing shot demonstrating their--" Studio: "Too much screentime. That'd cut into merch." Writer: "There is a throwaway line about the difficulty--" Studio: "No extra screentime." Writer: "... it uh it's just three troopers in normal suits. So uh. So uhm..." Studio: "Temp workers in black-and-white track suits and stormtrooper masks made from printouts." Writer: "Right. Uhm..." Studio: "And we don't see them for more than 5 seconds, so we don't have to pay them." Writer: "Uhm. Yea. Uhm it would be good if" Studio: "Write an epic scene!" Writer: "Yea I'll" Studio: "Put Baby Yoda in it somehow." Writer: "Hmkay."

[@flarpyz7613]

Am I the only one who realizes that Reva's motive for attempting to kill Like was to cut off the Skywalker bloodline, therefore getting a piece of the revenge she sought from Darth Vader?

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

@@flarpyz7613 so, how did she know he was Vader's son? All she had found was "a connection in the Archives" between the Organas and Obi Wan, then later on she founds out that Luke exists (period). For all she knew, it was Obi Wan's bastard child... She did have Vader's daugther (who would've remain alive btw, therefore the Skywalker bloodline would be fine), and she didn't realize it was his daughter, so what's different about Luke? What you say could work, but it was not in the script. She just does things because the plot requires it.

[@novataco5412]

48:25 haven’t seen the show but that makes it look like he’s flashing the lightsaber as a threat for a free ride lmao

[@NoveI_Tea]

I feel so bad for Reva's actor. Imagine getting a role in one of the most beloved franchises of all time, then being handed a role so bad it's basically the worst characters in the whole of that franchise. I'd probably be in denial too

[@Shineinpoverty]

It is important to stress out, a black female actress in H-wood is almost certainly doomed to get into this exact situation. What is she to H-wood? A check box, soulless diverse checkbox. Most of the minority actors must have specific attributes only given to this group. And this trope, the trope of black female actress being angry and arrogant, it got old long ago. I feel like in their mind, they think that they are building a very strong and a bit tragic character. She ain't. She is the same arrogant and angry clone they created for many other black actresses.

[@NoveI_Tea]

@@Shineinpoverty yeah, it's so sad to see such a rampant and accepted form of racism as this type of type-casting

[@Jippa_33]

KK is so committed to ‘subverting expectations’ that she found out we were expecting a good series & she just flipped her hood up and said ‘nah’

[@novataco5412]

55:15 okay I knew you said you were going very in depth. I DID NOT realize this was all the first episode haha

[@MetalGearRaxis]

Captain Needa is the only time Vader well and truly appeared to lose his temper and snap-murder somebody. Admiral Ozzel was a massive screw-up even without needing supplementary material, and he single-handedly ruined the Battle of Hoth for the Empire.

[@omarrojo9484]

Words cannot express how much I hate this show. It truly baffles me that someone screwed a show about a fan favorite character this bad when all you had to do was copy and paste the Kebobi Novel. And it baffles me even more that someone read this script and approved it. It's obvious that talent, passion and a minimum level of intelligence are things that no longer exist in LucasFilm. This is the worst audiovisual product I've ever seen in my life, and I've seen some stinkers like Transformers: The Last Knight, Transformers Age of Extinction, School Days, Book of Boba Fett, The Last Jedi, Batman v Superman, Suicide Squad, Grown-ups 2, Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Terminator Dark Fate and Genesys, The Flash post season 2 and honestly I'd rather only watch those movies and shows for the rest of my life than giving Kebobi a second watch

[@Markm8]

You gotta love most of those are pretty recent all things considered

[@omarrojo9484]

@@Markm8 Yeah, man, it's almost like brains are no longer allowed in the modern film industry

[@kirayoshikage3258]

Grown ups 2 is such an odd choice lmfaoo

[@omarrojo9484]

@@kirayoshikage3258 My brother used to put it on repeat three times a week when we had dinner so I have a deep rooted hatred towards the movie because every time the humor gets more painful. I mean, watching it one time was bad enough, but now imagine watching it several times a week

[@kirayoshikage3258]

@@omarrojo9484 true man but it’s an Adam Sandler movie, that’d be like watching Just Go with It over and over which is I think objectively terrible

[@hugomungus7306]

2:03:00 So I have to ask... Why didn't Vader just walk right through the fire? He's literally 50% machine and survived lava. He has a castle on a planet where he almost died from heat. I'm certain nobody brought this up on set.

[@TheJay1979]

I mean, would want to go through fire again?? Lol

[@Lux_Ferox]

Or even just clear it with the force like he just did seconds earlier.

[@Blurple0]

Or just go around it? Like 10 meters to the left?

[@johnstrife7]

Disney shills: "hE lIkEs ThE cHaSe" 😂

[@PosthumanHeresy]

@@TheJay1979Relationship with sand, over. Now he doesn't like fire.

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

Gotta agree. I have officially reached an end to my tolerance of crappy practical effects when Grogu started "jumping" in Mandalorian, it was so bad it made Yoda in Clone Wars flying around spinning look normal.

[@clarity2199]

Obi Wan Kenobi: The Negotiator, General of one of the clone armies, Jedi Master. Has 0 concept how to talk to people, think, or strategize, and needs a 10 year old girl to lead him around by the nose because ptsd turned him into a moron.

[@Horrormaster13]

Obi-Wan Kenobi Show was such a big disappointment for me. It feels really cheap, the story is outrageous (one plothole after another), fight and escape scenes are terribly directed (Shaky Cam sucks) and Obi-Wan isn't even really the main character in his own show. And I also have the impression that the marketing department wrote the script and not scriptwriters. A 2/10 from me and that's only because of Ewan McGregor who really tries as does Hayden Christensen in the very few scenes he appears. This show really makes The Book of Boba Fett look good by comparison.

[@chasehedges6775]

This show had its moments yeah. This show and Book Of Boba are mediocre offering that beyond terrible

[@chasehedges6775]

Obi-Wan is a side character in his own show. 💯💯

[@Heartshapedbox81]

Only compliment that I can give the book of Boba Fett is that it's so outlandishly stupid that it's funny at points, this show does not have even that, it's just a complete and utter disappointment but not a major one at least because due to the previous show's produced I lost any type of hope that they would do anything competent or respectful towards any of these two characters that people know and love, they hate them all because they aren't their pathetic creations, but they have to pretend to like the female ones while butchering their characters as well. Sorry I had to edit because I realized that made a mistake because half of the characters they've done aren't even their own characters, it's just stolen s*** from the stuff they De-canonized merged together and badly and or nonsensically done, Example. The Stolen story of Rogue one or Kylo Ren, who is just a mishmash of characters badly stolen and the Kenobi show is a dumbass way to retroactively fix him being weirdly named as well having of course stolen Luke's son's name, it's fine though I guess it wouldn't have made much sense for them to have multiple children considering they made Han into a bum-ass and Leia into a cold witch (unless you're Rey of course) and Luke into a pathetic hermit with no life, no wife, no family, no Academy and no goddamn sense.

[@Neumonics429]

At this point more people die from blasters than they do from lightsabers. Obi Wan should reconsider how effective they are.

[@asaknight321]

This wasn't as mixed of a bag as book of boba Fett but this was far from perfect. The saving grace of the show was Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen doing the damn best they could even if they were given bad scripts

[@chasehedges6775]

Indeed. It was mediocre and underwhelming but it was seeing those 2 again. The girl playing Leia did a good job along with the Jedi spy lady who helped them

[@chasehedges6775]

Hayden and Ewan we're worth it

[@asaknight321]

@@chasehedges6775 they were worth it and you know what some of the supporting cast was great too

[@chasehedges6775]

@@asaknight321 Too bad their characters are meh

[@asaknight321]

@@chasehedges6775 true

[@NelsonStJames]

It's always weird when people brag about not acquainting themselves with the source material when they are doing an adaptation of something that already exists, but what's even more telling is that they only seem to do this with certain adaptations and not others.

[@howdypartner8326]

I love putting opening up one of these videos after a long day and relaxing while Sheev talks away. It's tranqualizing and helps unwind my mind.

[@ZacharyDietze]

The main problem with this show, for me at least, was that it was made into a show to begin with. It’s not even a secret that it was supposed to be a movie. Had they cut down all the fat and had it condensed into an average length only mainly focusing on Obi-Wan and Vader, then it would’ve been mostly fine. Characters like Reva should’ve only been there as a supporting character and made to be more menacing, as well as die after Vader kills her. Also shaky cam. Way to freaking much of it for the fights. It can work in moderation when appropriate, (Like when Obi-Wan is tossing boulders) but they went way too overboard with it. That’s the theme of this show show in a nutshell: They went overboard with such a simple concept. Not *everything* has to be epic in scale. Obi-Wan fighting Vader? Yes. But did they absolutely have to write in that Obi-Wan has to help save Leia? No.

[@allanredhill8682]

cinematography and quality of vfx was still super trash - the story isnt even my main issue its just how amateur the whole thing looks, same thing with the book of boba. The fight scenes look like goofy larp fights with atrociuos camera shake and a lot of scenes are cut in a super strange way. Its just objectively incompetently made (im sure the people working on it are very skilled, my money is either on tight deadlines, badly spent budget or bad direction. Probably all at once tbh)

[@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad]

Obi’s theme sounds like one of those opening stings that played when you selected a wii or 3ds game

[@damonlloyd6025]

You said everything in my head while watching. You deserve 100,000 more loyal SW fans

[@TopsyTriceratops]

Dude, imagine if there was a sympathetic side shown to the Empire in rescuing Leia. Like, the Empire is so big, and there have been multiple instances where soldiers were completely unaware of how bad the Empire is. It could've been a genuine rescue, sure it would do nothing with Obi-Wan except reminding him that the Empire isn't entirely one note, but it is still a fascinating story to think about.

[@Heartshapedbox81]

It wouldn't even need to be sympathetic, it would just make sense. Because they are in charge and he's part of their regime!

[@99GregPotter]

I just find it incredible how they managed to mess up the whole thing so badly. It’s not even a horrible show it’s just that they had so much potential just laying at their feet and yet they managed to still just fuck it all up

[@avah3643]

I think for me, the only bright spot of this show is the relationships between the twins and their various parents. I enjoy whenever Leia is interacting with Bail and Breha, when we see Owen and Beru being protective of Luke... And I especially enjoy when you can tell Obi-Wan is thinking of Padmé, or telling Leia about her parents. I'm not a huge Padmé fan but god, it bothers me that in live action and animation, she is rarely mentioned after she dies-but no one can go a movie or series without brining up Anakin.

[@marveldcextinctionwrestler7773]

Love how Obi-Wan is smiling in the Thumbnail, He’s like: My Show is Amazing

[@chasehedges6775]

😂😂💯😂😂

[@chasehedges6775]

Ewan Mcgregor: I'm going to get my paycheck